#Champion Stadium
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or plumeria, but I'm not experienced with plumeria's DPS or nuke
Janine/ariados and Lucy/seviper only😅
Can you get BP Erika?
Off type or stall
I can
BP Erika/Janine/Xerneas has yet to fail me on a poison weak CS battle (getting 2k)
She's good?
she's guaranteed single target badly poison (and trap)
Ohh that's nice
yeah, so after 3 turns, all enemies are badly poisoned, after 3 more roudns all are trapped
all the while Janine Venom Drenches, Xerneas stays alive and you stall them out
Blue does have sync cure though so you need to survive the sync and reapply poison
Ohh
ah yes, but I didn't catch it for 2 turns and still won
With extra poison field parameter it should be fine
yeah, choose the "status effectss is more potent" option
Cool cool
I just checked, my Janine lvl 105 (no grid of course), Erika lvl 115 no grid
Wow
what parameters are good ?
but like Aurochs said, after Blue's 1st sync, hit him again with Toxic
Got it
sync with Xerneas first to get the speed and SpDef buffs
Yeah
after that, sync with him if he needs healing (get his Recuperation grid tile), otherwise you can sync with JAnine. She eventually does decent damage with like 5 sync buffs
Ahh okay
If you poison stall? the "status effects are more likely, stronger, last longer" one
Trying to do mm for 850 pts/per, in the chart given any thing recommended to replace 300 pts max move gauge -2 with?
Strength is the go-to
Although the move gauge -2 is one of the best params, it's basically free. You can even still carry two 4-gauge users if you have a good speed support
Str 3 300pts right?
Speed supp or move gauge supp?
It's a good param
More speed buffs or higher speed = faster gauge refill
But speed support is better than someone who can only give move gauge acceleration or move gauge boost. Speed is forever, gauge accel is temporary
OK, thks
Good luck
I'm assuming my characters need to be properly built for MM with sync grids upgraded?
minimal grid should be fine for most, this is Kanto after all
start out with 4.2k points, so 850 total. parameters are on pins
then you can raise your points slowly if you want
Alright
not really but you probably want to 120 sync pairs
Yeah
hello! I just wanted to confirm, cause I feel like I missed the message reg. it, but I can only use one team once during champion stadium ?
so per battle, I need to use a different team ?
Btw dumb question what's pre sync post sync?
Yup
Pre-sync is you win before the enemy syncs. Post-sync means you take a sync.
Ohhh
Notable 3* and 4*s for champ stadium?
thank you
There are quite a few useful ones, it really depends on what your strikers need
I see thank you!
depends on pairs but you can presync with post sync parameters
You can do what you want, the parameters are just suggestions
I managed to postsync with hyper offensive presync params, it was wild
Any suggestions for this team? I can't beat onyx even at 850 points
Use Cyrus
I used him for lance
Hmm what are your other water units
Is everyoen gridded?
Tbh Cyrus is my best water striker too 
I've gridded may and Aaron a bit
Aaron gives crit right?
I'm literally googling Aaron to see lol
Yeah
Same, just pulled up the poryphone too
What does bee man do
Smh non-aaron havers
under rain
🙃
Actually a +6 spa may
How +6?
4 from rosa 2 from herself
Oh yeah
Not that I think the last +2 matters too much but it helsp
Eh I'll try again
I just have one though
It's okay, extra stats are nice to have
How do we get items to exchange for it?
Just wait for the next 3* gear event honestly
Co-op, but much better to wait for gear events or pokemas day
is there a reason you're not using SS Blue
Was planning on using him with ash for lorelai
Ash doesn't need help lol
Aight
Finally did it after multiple tries😮💨
He was keeping on using iron tail and almost one shotting the pokemon
Blue's very bulky, I don't know how he could go down that easily at 850 points
We'll he didn't die so soon 😂
@nova garnet https://pomasters.github.io/SyncPairsTracker/ this one.
post all your sync pairs that you have on there.
(Filter by have and havenot)
Interesting, I'll do that
and then screenshot what sync pairs you've already done.
damn no lucian
@nova garnet are your levels okay? D:?
Right click on their rarity or sync level
yeah i was just adding the list, i only bumped up a few sync pairs' move levels
need to see all your actual current sync levels and rarities
also, try filtering by Type 😄
btw how do you save these lists so i dont have to redo it when i close my browser
Click export/save and it'll give you some code
You can paste that code back in to get the same results
You got brendan? Ss erika/ss morty/brendan should wreck stages
btw
Nov I've done my f2p clear #1011675077764456519 message Sleep hax week
@nova garnet it can autosave
which means as long as you click the link again
it should get your stuff back
Which stage are you trying to do?
my problem is, i use brendan on a ton of different teams. i have many special strikers.
just like...any of it? i used my ss pikachu to clear 1500 points, and that was my best team. i feel like i have good sync pairs, but the game makes no sense when it comes to team building, stats and battles.
it all feels so inconsistent.
VS Lance last i checked
which sync pairs did you use on VS Agatha?
ss pikachu/yamper/luxray
in round 2, it says to use physical attacks. but my water, fighting and dragon teams are all special attackers. so i tried going for a strong neutral effective team.
Well don't do Lance round 2
Use physical attacks means physical attacks are boosted, but special attacks aren't weaker
What are your water fighting and dragon teams?
dragon is deoxys/rayquaza/pelipper. gets wrecked.
fighting is gallade/latios/vespiquen. gets wrecked.
water is kyogre/palkia/psyduck. havent tried it yet.
These are weird teams. They don't really get sufficient buffs.
You don't have a crit buffer for this team
Usually you just have one striker and you buff it
Not an eagle eye fan? 
No one with accuracy buff for this one
gallade buffs his own accuracy, no?
40% chance to crit, also loses Eagle Eye on mega
If you keep on hitting Lorelei, her evasion will increase
40% of the time it works every time
You can do it with Gallade, you just have to not hit mid with anyone but your striker
Wally only has +2 accuracy on his TM, he only has 1 100% accuracy move
For each of those teams, i suggest picking one striker to work around.
aight so what's a good third for rayquaza/pelipper
i was using deoxys cuz it helps defend. ive used latios in the past, but like i said, i use latios for so many dang teams
A crit buffer
Depends on Rayquazas lucky skill
he's got dauntless
Eagle Eye is too RNG and you don't have someone to buff Zinnia's stats
Sweet. Then anyone who buffs crit and spatk
but wouldnt the team be super squishy at that point
cuz i feel like the game requires defenses on some level
You'll have to finish Lance off before he syncs
Zinnia's damage is strong enough to do that even without EX and expanded grid
so who does crit and sp atk support? i dont have this knowledge at hand yet
SS Brendan
Or you can do Lyra and Blaine
gosh i wish i knew this SO much longer ago
No, Lyra is too squishy
falkner. damn, need to get him levelled up.
but that's 3 flying types on my team. nice synergy.
What move level is he?
1 lol
but he gives crit and sp atk at that point anyway, so i figure ill try him out
Falkner at base is good enough
The water team should work fine. Might have gauge issues but Kyogre should destroy the stage anyway. Palkia should get critfocus on grid (bottom left), use spacial rend until you crit, then switch to hydro pump
Good luck with your gauge
That sounds bad together why not replace Kyogre for Winona or something
Kyogre should swamp Water-weak with minimal help
all u really have to do is provide Kyogre with speed/gauge
yeah i think kyogre should work
he does fine but not with Palkia you were suggesting
hehe yeah sorry
actually i was gonna recommend uhm
Aaron, Masked Royale and Kyogre
that should do it
-ATK is good enough
sounds fine
+6 Speed and atk debuffer
Aaron will keep uping everyone's defenses
as long as you have EX Kyogre
i think you'll be fine .-.
Anyone beat the stadium to 10k yet?
People beat Kanto to 15k I'm pretty sure.
My highest attempt I tried was 12,700
I don't even bother with anything more than 10k
Kyogre EX isn't even needed I think. This is Kanto after all, 1/5 Archie is just fine
talk to me about trying for more than 10k once they give more rewards 
take a look at #1010274591601598555 and filter to champion stadium, check people's teams 
The only time I went above 10k was on the Unova CS at 15.4k
if they do it will just be 10 bp and spirits
ye its quite disappointing
I mean this weeks stadium
I want to know what pokemon were used, to help me a bit
Thanks bro
no problem
Might need help finding a good combination for 2k Bruno.
Cyrus/Winona/Roxanne
Um, I see, yeah, Palkia has a water move.
like I said, try taking a look at #1010274591601598555 and filter for champion stadium
and then sort by Recent Activity
I have EX Lillie and Sonia to sync with if needed, don't know if she's good on this stage.
But I'll try this first.
Sonia is better I guess, she has better defense
but it will also depend on what striker you're gonna use
generally build around the strikers first, not the supports
Gonna try Cyrus here.
I have Piers too, but he has a weakness on that stage.
Oh, Sonia too...
Cyrus can max his own stats but he needs to cut his own HP for that
so if you don't want that to happen, bring someone who can buff sp atk and speed for him
preferably crit too, but he can buff his own crit easily with no drawbacks
I have a good amount of options for rain, like May and Kris.
kris? ss kris?
perfect, Cyrus/SS Kris/May is my go-to water team and they wreck things easily
Yeah.
What's the strat then? Because I struggle with health.
Kris has potions
Cyrus should win before there is a problem easily
Use Dragon rend to ensure he gets to +3 crit before switching to hydro pump
And sync with Kris not Cyrus
Ally healing is down and they're already low.
Unless it doesn't crit
I can't prevent Bruno to sync.
Kris isn't EX, though, so syncing with her over May might not be a good idea?
you want to sync with her anyway for the sync burst, so you can get an extra +2 sp attack and SMUN
I see, I can try.
unless you have MPR of course
And oh, it's that fight where you have to reboot if Bruno opens with Iron Tail...
my SS Kris almost got oneshot with iron tail. first aid kicked in, I could get her sync in, and she died right after from another iron tail. cyrus and may finished it off, easy
Hydro pump in rain should rip right through
Especially with SS Kris buff
Didn't go well.
I'll check the grids.
I was close from beating Bruno, but then there would be the issues with the other two trainers.
May should deal with the sides easily
And there are times where Onix just avoids everything...
get at least 1 hydro pump accuracy tile
I recorded a run for you, hold on let me upload it
https://youtu.be/gmReDpclg1U damn that took a long time to upload
and wow this run was clean, Bruno didn't use iron tail at all 
Which grids do you recommend?
I just got Cyrus' expansion.
Oh okay, you showcase it.
Well, my Kris is 1/5, but oh well.
Kris and May grids are kind of irrelevant
what settings do yall usually choose for these battles? im trying to see if i can be smarter about it so i can win
im seeing yall say "kyogre is fine." i attempted it a few times last night and kept losing. can someone hold my hand thru this pls
Cuz this is my team, and I'm only going for 1500 pts
you might want lots of speed for Kyogre
I typically run +STR parameters, and usually win by the second sync.
With that team, mistyduck and Primarina have 1 gauge moves which helps Kyogre stay in control of the move gauge
so go glass cannon method. ill try it.
Mistyduck buffs your defenses, and Primarina can interrupt their turns to extend the sync timer
phewwww that worked, ty. i guess the str buffs are less scary than i thought
strength makes it a lot easier
Well I clutched a win with Sygna Johto instead...
The "+str X" parameters are basically just adding levels to the enemies.
Imagine your own units gaining levels. The actual stat gain from 10, 20, or 30 levels is pretty low in each field.
As opposed to the "attack/special attack + X", which are a flat % higher stat, which scales much more aggressively against you.
i see i see, this is great to know
If you are going for a pre-sync win and don't want the enemy getting any more defense or health, then the "+attack" parameters are fine because the goal is to kill them before they can attack.
But the "+str" parameters give them WAY less offensive stats, in exchange for a little more defense and health. As long as you survive the first enemy sync, it's much more reliable to win this way.
@nova garnet
Using Leon/Eternatus as an example:
Level 125: 226 atk, 319 satk
Level 135 (str+1, 100 points): 238 atk, 337 satk
Level 125 (atk+1, 50 points): 249 atk, 351 satk
So purely from an offensive threat viewpoint, even the weakest rank of +str parameters is a big chunk less stat boost than +atk. And gives more points to you for winning.
To get the same points from +atk, you'd need to use a higher rank or also add +def, which functions the same way to give more defense to the opponent.
I have the feeling there are no good Fighting sync units.
Since almost all of them are from the base game.
Not sure how to use Bea.
What do you mean?
Sirfetchd is amazing.
Gallade and Solgaleo are good enough.
Cyncario is a tank, not damage
Like what should I use for Lorelei?
What rank is your Sirfetchd?
Not sure what's the best way to use Bea and her 4 tiles move.
And what to use with her.
5/5, lv. 140.
Not sure if gridded.
Sirfetchd, Medicham, and any tank can easily sweep 2000 master mode
I'd recommend a tank with some kind of speed boosting or defense dropping just for synergy. A-Marowak and Cobalion are good
Medicham for damage?
I don't know about that.
No
So Kiawe (5/5, no EX) with Bea and who else?
Medicham to buff Sirfetchd attack stat before sync.
And after sync, give Sirfetchd 100% accuracy on two hits in a row because lorelai stacks evasion
Maylene, so two supports?
Round 1:
Sirfetchd X attack
Marowak shadow bone
Medicham x attack all
Round 2:
Sirfetchd X speed
Marowak shadow bone
Medicham X attack
Round 3:
Sirfetchd X speed
Potion or shadow bone, depending
Medicham Attack
Sync with Sirfetchd
Post sync:
Medicham buff accuracy, Ducc attack
Medicham buff accuracy, Ducc attack
Sirfetchd is definitely top tier gen pool. He needs almost no support after 3/5 (but appreciates someone else buffing speed or attack to get his multipliers faster)
For Lorelei i used this
Following this, it's going awfully.
I lose Kiawe before sync, if not worse.
Are you going pre-sync, or str params?
I never do pre-sync
I'm doing 2k post-sync.
This attempt went worse than before, but got it on second sync.
I missed the one meteor that I needed to win pre-sync
Then I should check Kiawe and Bea's grids.
Also, no EX for me.
Letting my phone juice up a bit for now, then I'll look into the grids.
Does anyone have any challenge run suggestions this week I had a really tough time using a wheel for regions and only allowing myself off type 
Flannery Burn stall?
I wouldn’t even regular poison stall no way I am doing that
Why can 1/5 Lyra nuke 🦑
I always do monotype 2k clears.
Another fun run can be "optimize" teams.
Or a 5x toxic stall week. That one was a challenge... Definitely not fun but glad I got it done!
I've also enjoyed triple species teams. I've beaten (at 2k):
Charizard/Charizard/Charizard
Gengar/Gengar/Gengar
Raichu/Raichu/A-Raichu
Eevee/Umbreon/Umbreon
Ones I've not done:
Onix/Onix/Steelix (might be impossible)
Sandslash/Sandslash/A-Sandslash (I don't have a-slash)
Arcanine/Arcanine/Arcanine (I forgot to last week)
Venusaur/Venusaur/Bulbasaur (don't have lodge bulb yet)
Oh, I also completed a 15 EX support run!
That was hard... Enemies that are water and bug weak are easy, and fire isn't too bad.
But some supports do NO damage lol
I can do 15 Ex supports
Optimize is a bit to easy for me this week
And monotype is kinda my normal runs
Her sync powers up if there is grassy terrain. By a lot.
Is kanto easier then the other champions? I keep seeing people saying kanto is ez 😮
Yes
It being the first one makes it’s difficulty level much easier than the others
For me currently the regions go
Hoenn>Sinnoh>Johto>Alola>Unova>Kanto
Kanto is usually considered the easiest CS due to how old it is, yeah
Uh oh I'm scared 😮 kantos my first and only 10k clear
IMO the difficulty is roughly as follows:
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Kanto, Johto, and Unova are the oldest 3, and for the most part their gimmicks amount to “don’t use physical or special (depending on the stage)”.
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Alola is a little more difficult than the previous 3, but moreso because the fights themselves are actually more challenging than because of increased gimmick use.
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Hoenn, despite being the newest CS, is IMO only the 2nd hardest because outside of Steel weak Glacia (who is extremely resistant to physical damage even though Steel is a dominantly physical type) the gimmicks are rather easy to work around.
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Sinnoh is, IMO, the hardest, with the most prevalent and arguably most restrictive gimmicks.
J find Johto difficult slightly because koga is near annoying every week
Is it 1 region per 4 weeks?
It’s one region every month
Yeah, one per month. Sometimes that’s 4 weeks, sometimes it’s 5 due to how things are timed
If I had to guess, Johto or Sinnoh is probably next since iirc the last 2 were Alola and Unova
Or maybe it was Hoenn and Unova
But any guess is exactly that; a guess. We have no reliable method of predicting which region is next
Should be sinnoh next month
Oh boy, revenge on Bug weak Lucian via SSR Cynthia + SS Korrina strats
Is there any incentives of having 3 ex pokes vs 2? Usually we want ex support + 1 ex dps
Does the 3rd one make a difference if it's ex or not?
Trying to figure out how to save my champion spirits :p
On a given team? Usually only 2 of the teammates matter whether they’re EX or not.
In general? It’s usually recommended to get 5 or 6 Support EXs before starting on Striker/Tech EXs because Support EX is absurdly good
Though favorites always have priority
On 1 given team. Ah okay that answers it ty.
In general do you have like over 10 since you're a veteran? 😮
I’ve got well over 30 EX pairs total at this point, and that’s a very “I’m shooting low so I don’t exaggerate” estimate
You’ll eventually find yourself swimming in Champion Spirits
What team you using for her?
Trying this after a break.
I should grid Kiawe, though.
No SSA Cynthia, I take it?
No indeed.
I know zone is handy, but I didn't like how it's been implemented and I had to recover from Red and Ash.
Fair enough
If that team ends up not working you could potentially try Lillie + Bea + Marley if Lillie is EX (heck, maybe even if she’s not, 3/5 Bea has a nice Sync nuke)
Yes, she is.
Potential backup plan then
I'm gonna try this after testing with gridded Kiawe.
Best of luck regardless of the team!
I will say that if you use Marley grid her for X Speed All Pep Rally and Team Sharp Entry if you can, since doing so means you can ignore Bea’s Sharp Entry tile
As well as the obvious 2 turns for max Speed
It gets easier as you get more invested pairs and more experience with it
Alright, gonna grid Marley.
She’s a great Support
Just grab X Speed All Pep Rally + Team Sharp Entry and from there it’s whatever you want/think will be helpful for the team you’re using her on
Her Sun tiles won’t do much if her teammates are Lillie and Bea, but other than that it’s a solid enough grid
Marley is honestly really flexible because she usually only needs 2 tiles, so the rest of her grid can basically be anything you want
If Lillie is EX she’d probably be a little bulkier
Holy crap that's soo many!! Do custom tickets become more rare then spirits?
The big thing is that Lillie uses Trainer Move twice to max Bea’s Attack, then X Accuracy All. Marley uses X Speed All twice and from there can do pretty much whatever (probably Trainer Move to give gradual healing tho)
5-star powerups (custom or generic) are usually the EX bottleneck, yeah
I have 31 of these despite not EXing most of them until this year when I decided to come here and be brave about CS.
So two Lillie syncs?
Lillie would only Sync once
But twice effect because EX.
Double Sync buff from EX, yeah
So what should I do before the first sync?
I feel like Bea not being EX is a huge handicap, but with some parameters on this mode, you never know.
Lillie does Trainer Move twice and then X Accuracy All, Marley uses X Speed All twice and then does whatever, Bea spams Meteor Assault unless you want to use her Trainer Move once to avoid giving Lorlei too many evasion buffs
Wait, sync before using trainer moves?
What? No
You can’t even get to 1st Sync without using trainer moves unless you’re purposefully waiting to use them until after 1st Sync
The 1st 3 turns would be;
Lillie: Trainer Move -> Trainer Move -> X Accuracy All
Marley: X Speed All -> X Speed All -> anything (probably Trainer Move though)
Bea: Meteor Assault or Trainer Move -> Meteor Assault -> Meteor Assault
Bea got in critical health before the first sync, so...
…Are you not triple-queueing?
There shouldn’t be many (if any) AoE moves used until Lorelei goes down
Bea should have barely taken any damage by the time you get your 1st Sync if you’re making sure to triple-queue
And yet it does.
Plus she's weak to the sync move, so it's a OHKO.
Ah, wait, Hyper Voice. I guess just reset if Lorelei uses that too much
Bea is not weak to Ice
Well she's weak to something because I have the danger symbol.
Alright, so one thing...
One of the enemies has Psychic moves
Left side, so gun them down 1st once Lorelei goes down
To triple queue effectively, should I wait until all three characters are done acting?
I feel like I can't sync quick enough once the 10th move arrives.
You can if you want, but as long as all 3 of your team members are acting before each enemy action you’ll be fine
With Support EX Lorelei honestly is pretty likely to go down before she can even Sync
Bea’s Meteor Assaults hit hard
I think the problem is that I start with Lillie, so I have to wait a little longer to sync with her after her 3rd move.
Wait, hold on
On the 3rd set of actions, the set where your Sync becomes available, are you waiting until Sync is queued before queueing anything else?
Because that is the instance where yes, you always wait for all 3 pairs to act before queueing moves again
I feel so, but I can use Bea move instead of waiting to spend the bars.
If you don’t queue Sync as the start of your 4th set of actions then you’re effectively wasting damage
You’ll deal more damage by waiting to queue Lillie’s Sync before Meteor Assault
But Bea still loses at Lorelei's sync.
The other thing about queueing Sync at the start of the action order is that you potentially can do something called quad-queue
Basically, if you start a set of actions with a Sync there’s a brief window where you can queue the Syncer’s next action before the enemy can queue an action
A successful quad-queue means you can Sync twice before the enemy Syncs
And in that restart, Bea is at critical health before Lillie's sync.
I wanna give up.
Can you record any video or take screenshots of your attempt?
Wait, is your Lillie 3/5?
Get her Adrenaline tile. That way you won’t even have to quadqueue
Because Lillie will reduce your Sync countdown by 1 after her 1st Sync
Oh yikes...
Lillie wasn't gridded...
I don't expect this to solve everything, but that might make a difference.
And if possible I would like to see a screenshot or video taken during your attempt, usually I can identify a problem that I’d otherwise miss with actual footage/screenshots from the fight
Getting X Accuracy Catalytic Cure will also help Lillie’s survivability significantly
You'd need something external to record, right?
Record video? Not sure. If video isn’t possible or easily doable screenshots should still suffice
next week fairy?
as always ill offtype
I'm sorry, but it frustrated me too much.
Ended up offtyping it with the chus.
I know they're a dumb joker card, but I just couldn't manage.
If it works it works
I don't go for 2k most of the time, 4.2k has been my norm for a while.
Meanwhile, Blue took me one try with Ingo as a support.
Plumeria and Iris are pretty good together.
Worst I can say is I would’ve liked to see if there was any issue I could spot via screenshots, but if you’re clearing fine it doesn’t matter much
I tried to find something to record, but I'm hesitant to register.
Stupid reason, I know.
Thing is, while I could do and send screenshots, I'm not sure what exactly would've helped you.
You’d be surprised. Even seeing the buff stages everyone has can tell me a lot
Made big use of keeping track of buff levels to figure out that Lyra and SS Morty weren’t using their Trainer Moves as much as they should just last night
Proof.
I'll consider it in the future, but it might be difficult for me to pinpoint a moment in the fight.
No need to prove you did it, don’t worry
If you need to see my characters and their affiliated infos, then yeah, I'll consider that.
Oh well, proving that I know how to screenshoot and send for the future.
Congrats, btw! You can screenshot your Hall of Fame listing for the teams you used and put it in #1010274591601598555 if you want!
Um, I see, maybe.
Entirely fine if you don’t, it’s mainly just there to show off
But yeah, if you do need to see how my fights go, I'm not sure screenshots will help much.
It might depend on the situation
There's also a slight delay in my screenshot, so it'd be tough.
But I'm thankful for the patience.
I've seen people often call Plumeria bad, but I like her kit.
EX helps a lot, though.
Not so much “bad” as “outdated and a little overly basic”. She works fine for Poison weak stuff, especially with Fall Iris as a teammate
I think I've only completed 2 or 3 rounds with 10k, since it's the hardest one.
So there's still a lot of situations where I feel like my best duos aren't very good.
Eh, rarely do you need a specific core duo so much as damage-dealer + supporting cast. Like Middy said, you’ll get the hang of it over time
Once you've farmed enough vouchers and have enough PUs, you could consider having about 5-6 Strike and Support EX (each). That helps to substantially reduce the difficulty of CSMM.
In many cases you could probably even offtype 4 stages should you need to. Esp if your 3rd supporting unit can debuff relevant offences, debuff relevant defences, set up relevant zone/weather, or flinch/sleep lock.
And in a pinch, Poison stall is always an option (albeit a fairly RNG one)
I've heavily relied on go-to Striker/Tech duos, but yeah, I might have to approach each of these differently.
But um...
Aren't these prevented by the conditions?
You can customise the conditions to your needs since you only need to take 2k's worth
My current set of conditions almost always allow my team to debuff the enemy. And I take additional base Def.
There’s a specific set of parameters for Poison stall that gets all defensive parameters and makes sure you can still status/debuff the opponents
There are generic recommended combinations by nightmary in the pins
You could start with those and edit based on your needs once you are more familiar with the parameters
Yep. Pinned parameters are definitely your friends
Haha I cleared fairy monotype twice and I’m giving up
Just gonna use this Normal team instead
Offtyping does make life easier
Ah yes, the “mono-Normal by technicality” team
Lol
I have the same team tbh, I just made it after LG
Gladion is honestly a nice “duct tape” pair
Nvr had the spare tickets to EX gladion
Oh wait, Snorlax has a Gigantamax Fighting move?
It does
It has a normal and a fighting yeah
Didn't think about that.
I don't think it would've helped me a lot, though.
Rock Smash, iirc
But you'd be better off with its replenish
Persian just needs to get refresh on TM and you are kinda all set for any stage imo
smh richu is a poison stall denier 
It's...... complicated
poison stall deniers unite 
That's right, u need to be toxic to the enemy and wait for them to slowly die from it
it sure is a toxic strat to watch your enemies die a slow death
lol. with an optimistic view, toxic stall is kinda like non-violence
don't attack and tire down the enemies
hehe. i forgot that part
Thats a kind of violence
conveniently
They only get hurt when they attack you.
ah true
It's self-inflicted.
But you inflicted poison on them
Never done a flannery burn stall though.
and they say poison types are the worst
💀
In the end, the poison is inside all of us
ah. i guess its good for one of those grimslys in unova
Pair her with scorcher 2 Marley
I remember it wasn't as smooth as imagined. had to use skyla & i think someone to trap as well
Would Lodge Lilly be a decent stall unit?
she's got wrap, healing & attack lowering
I suspect all non-poison stalls are hard as they don't have a "bad" version
an alternative to venom drench and noble roars
yeah thats true. burn stall only works for them with lessen burn 3 or 5 or something which is hardly a couple of them
Stop hitting her with your sides
Every time you hit her (except with syncs and maybe max moves?) she gets evasion, so only hit her with the striker and only after your first sync.
Even while hitting her, I feel like I'm lacking damage
Might try to post sync her, because unless I off type, I think pre sync won't be doable
What is your team
She can be presynced by Korrina, Solgaleo, and whatever other fighting type with a three bar you have

Congrats

yeah syncs dont trigger the passive
max moves shouldn't either, but buddy moves do
If it works it works. Congrats!
@zealous karma
Did you find a fun challenge for the week?
This week wasn't super comfortable
I don't like using off type Mon to beat the stages and I had to do it 3 times
Gio for ghost, solgaleo for fighting and full off type with ash and red for poison
Eh, I personally don’t count it as off-typing if your main damage move is on-type, but I can understand why someone would disagree
Nothing wrong with offtyping anyways
I found a couple 🦑
What did you go with?
I wish lodge units had EX so that I can deal 40k+ damage with my Lodge May against Bruno
You wanna do that fashion theme skill run Richu? I might do that too if I'm bored
I’m doing all of them so far
Fashion
One region
Optimize
Optimize runs are awful.
For rock-weak it used to give me:
Serperior - Weak against flying attacks, which is what rock-weak Karen and Blue have. Buffs special attack.
Cryogonal - Which... Why? Literally because of ancient power.
OliviaRoc - But no buffer or sand setter. Died to enemy sync.
The game likes to give me
SSMorty
Sonia
SSKris
Aaron
I forgot the 5th for optimize
Oh SSB
For rock it likes to give me kukui and nessa
Stop stop he’s already dead
I forgot to restrain him
And he died to zerenas sunc
Sync
Rip bozo
it simply doesn't feel good enough for me
I wanna have the option of picking something that has the type the stage is weak against to beat it
25K sync through crit shields on Lorelei
Moyai emoji
SSB DPS wth he just dealt 10K on bruno Cyrus who
@zealous karma
Omg, optimize these days with my roster is hilarious. I guess my units are good enough now to select usable teams
lel
Morty at 1/5 dealt 5K to agatha and killed her
I thought ghost would be impossible
I love explosion!
Ye 1/5 drifblimw
Sonia and Gio for ghost
LOL
I just got the most overkill team against blue
And it starts playing the CS victory theme from random
💀💀💀
It gave me Sharpedo for water.
That's exciting, I never use him anymore
But the water fight was weak to physical, so that's probably why
I can understand that
Optimize is so weird
I have 3/5 EX archie and 5/5 EX may
Recommends me SSKris and ssethan SSMorty for water
I bet for Strikers/Techs it doesn’t check Sync type, but if they have any moves of that type
Well he’s a Support, and I’m guessing there’s different criteria for them
The power of Special Up spam
got my firsst 10k on mm
Congrats!
If you want, you can make a post to put relevant screenshots in over at #1010274591601598555
Same I finally got 10k on mm after coming back. I had to off-type Bruno with SS Lusamine and Blue with Ash lol
3rd or 4th.
Blue is weak to poison. I'd recommend BP Erika/Janine/Xerneas if that team doesn't work (and choose 1st parameter with the poison stall team)
Blue has sync cure
I still got 2k with that team, despite not reapplying poison for 2 turns
Sadly already used my poison stallers on other teams. Couldn't tell the difference between the ghost and poison icons so messed up and used them already
Realized too late but figured 😅
They're my go to psychic types
Here's what I got left to choose from
Potentially still have Koga to poison and SST Red to hit hard
I think I marked out all I've used. If not I'll mention it
SST Red can off-type easily if your psychic team doesn't work
Could also maybe try Koga + Allister?
And an appropriate Support, of course
Wait, is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?
Hard mode
My last hard mode encounter 
Also didn't realize how strong poison stall was
What’s your type progress?
Wiped their team and I barely took any damage
After this I'll have all the medals regardless of what I use
Alright
on Hard mode, SST REd can easily off-type if you don't need to worry about filling in the medal
Yo, 3/5 Marley and 5/5 Roxanne, that’s fantastic for your Support roster
Just TM-Electric Terrain-Buddy move again and again (And throw in MAX move to nuke mid)
I needed poison, bug, water, Dragon, normal and ground
Which I used Viola, May, Cyrus, Bertha and the lady with the chansey
great, just win and move on to Master mode
Cheryl. Another good Support option
just be careful with Cheryl since her PHy Def is next to nothing
True, yeah
She was fine with the fight I put her in as filler basically.
Yeah, for Hard Mode there definitely won’t be many issues
Master Mode is where you’d need to avoid physical moves hitting her
Btw, make sure to get Helena’s custom powerups and extra copies from the shop as soon as you’re able to do so. She’s a pretty darn good Ghost damage-dealer and she’s totally free with the exception of 5-star powerups if you decide to use them
Are my teams good for master mode or will I need new ones?
Master Mode is a bit more restrictive on teambuilding, so depending on the teams you used for Hard Mode you might need to adjust them. Since you’re new to Master Mode it’s probably best to start out by just going for 850 points per stage (4250 points total) rather than immediately jumping to 1.5k or 2k since that gets you all the most important rewards
Clemont Korrina Maylene
You said F2P so I gave you F2P, and BpClemont
Well cmon think about it
She boosts korrinas Atk crit shortening her setup and has overlapping theme skills
I don’t know what you want me to think about 🐴🐴🐴🐴
What are the best ones to go for on each to hit the 850. Ones that don't buff them too much or don't matter all that much
Check the pins
Can do!

Grid Roxanne and replace Kiawe with her on the team for Lance, IMO. Do you have 2 3-star Support candies? Because if so get Skyla to 3/5, grid her and use her instead of Elio, if not grid Marley and use her instead of Elio, IMO
Ah wait, Skyla’s on the Bruno team. Marley it is then
I have a bunch of candies saved
Haven't really needed them
Gonna update the teams
Bruno and Lance went down like rocks
Agatha is proving tricky
Beat agatha
Now all that's left is blue and lorelei
add gear to your teams btw. and that poison stall can beat 2k blue.
Sadly don't have any but I'm going to work on getting some
every pokemon masters day (on the 25th) you'll get 1 set of 3* gear
and there's a gear event every few months
Is gear a big boost
it's very helpful once maxed out, yeah
even level 3 3* gear can help
it's not a make or break situation though
but definitely recommended
I'll try to pick it up when it rolls around this month
Haven't really been focusing on gear honesrly
when a gear event drops, try to grind that. shouldn't take too long if you put it on auto
You only need one set of max gear to save you trouble btw
(I’m to lazy to do it all the time)
Now that poison zone is here we just need to wait until dena is brave enough to give koga EX
And also expanded grid
Why do you all love Koga that much?
Because we love good units
because he's a diamond in the rough when it comes to poison times
for a very long time
Koga has a good nuke and can toxic, he’s great for low budget teams
And in a pinch evasion hax
He just needs someone to boost his Sp. Atk. for him
I don't like him, don't worry 
I can't seem to see his value. I used him with Sycamore this week. Max spa/crit and Alister's sludge bomb would hit harder than koga's sync nuke. After 2 sync buffs.
What I believe is his true potential is stalling and Evasion tanking
He works well there
Although he can nuke
Just don't compare it to other better units 🥴
He needs sum EX and expanded grid
Koga is definitely a great f2p poison nuker, I won't deny
it's just that I'm salty about his nuke because he failed to crit three times when I used him in LG
and that's after I went through reset hell to get TM MPR 
SS Leaf/Koga/Janine never failed as a poison stall team for me
Koga doesn't seem to be doing much in that squad, haha
Yeah that’s a half stall half nuke team, Koga’s there to nuke. Plus he supplies his own evasion.
We just told you haha
Koga is also one of the few reliable Sp. Def. debuffs out there, and is even more notably a free source of Sp. Def. debuffs
How does this look for strikers? Champion team is the only complete one, keep in mind.
Ir is basically 'lol delet'
team 3 needs a faster way to buff crit imo
Nothing wrong with the strikers. Not sure about the support choices.
Literally only the champion team is done
I said it was strikers, not whole teams.
The champion team is the exception since I'm off typing it.
I know. and I'm saying your strikers in team 3 needs faster crit buff
they can buff their own crit themselves of course but it'll take 3 turns
...I literally haven't picked supporting pokemon yet.
I was asking on if these strikers were good choices for this.
They're on type strikers
The center pokemon, to note. They're the striker for each one.
it's water-weak, of course they're good choices
What are you asking exactly?
I was checking if I have the right idea on striker choice before building more.
They do damage of the appropriate weakness. We can't give more feedback than that.
picking an on-type striker is already the right idea
Yeah the basics are basically what the pins say
Center your team around the damage dealer/nuker and build the team around them
Kanto CS is pretty easy compared to other CS regions, should be fine on damage-dealers. But move SSA Cynthia to Bea's team, she's so much better with Bea than with the Pikachus
If SSA Cynthia goes to Bea's team then Bea will need a long time to buff herself
which... is probably ideal because you don't want to be attacking Lorelei right away anyway
lol. nice. Bea under zone was OHKOing the sides in the first cycle
can literally take all attack parameters with ssa cynthia anyways
my fighting team this week was EX SSA Cynthia/EX Hilbert/EX Bea but my first sync went to Bea instead of my EX supports because it was much faster to win that way 
damn I haven't done sync countdown in ages
I've already fallen down the rabbit hole of hyper aggressive presync clears, I don't want to add sync countdown -2 to it 
what level do you need characters at for CS generally?
I say 120 for hard mode
ok 👍
MasterMode I dunno I feel the level really does clutch in 10k specifically
Especially for supports
Still very doable with 120
ok
I haven't done anything beyond the basic CS but I did all the villain arcs for regional pulls and grabbed hop/sycamore/Cyrus so I think I should have a big enough roster
Are you trying to clear the medal or nah?
I dunno what that means, I've never done the CS as said
is it like a challenge for not letting any pairs die or smth?
Nah u need to use ALL types
To unlock master mode
Type that is correlated to thier sync type.
Master mode gives you additional bonus rewards
oh
like you need to actually activate every sync type or just have them on the team
Just have them in a team
wait isn't there 18 types and you only use 15 total pokemon?
Yeah it usually takes 2 cycle to complete it
You are barely in time for kanto
oh you don't have to do it all in one run
obviously
that's why I was confused
It's practically impossible to begin with tbf
but having cleared more in the first week the better since it opens up for a more comfortable team composition on the second week
Anyway u technically have time this month
U have to clear minimum 9 this week though
how important are the actual battle modifiers to take advantage of.
aside from using physical when sp def is up and vice versa
It usually helps the e4 ngl
lol
Yeah it usually just depends on the team ur bringing
Like say
A grass weak Lorelei with permanent field effect, you can abuse that so effects like grassy terrain or sun stays forever
don't have poison.teams so mod1 this cs is useless for me I imagine
or BP erika w/ Tangella?
Poison stall is your best friend earlier on with CS
Koga/Lucy are great
F2P options
according to the filter my only poison status syncs are Roxy, Lucy, janine
lemme check
With venusaur
I don't have any of the leaf's
hi CS chat
it's fine, Janine is a good poison stall unit
so she's worth investing into?
for damage, I have SS Erika, Cyrus, Helena, Kris and totodile, and Sydney off the top of my head worth mentioning, probably have more
Janine doesn’t need much investment, only levels
If you could list your units that have a grid and how many spare
that would be most helpful
This week literally all four E4 stages are weak to a free legend, so if they’re gridded you’re 
you're doing the base hard mode CS right?
yes
as long as you have an on-type damage dealer and a support to take the hits, this CS is fairly newcomer friendly, i wouldn't worry too much
pairs have to be 100-120 level range
grids not that mandatory for this rotation except some
I only have like a few hundred orbs rn cause I gridded sycamore
Sidney is an amazing self sustainable dark dmg dealer (but dark is next week)
Sycamore fully gridded? If so that’s one stage done easy
Will directly ask then, are Giovanni and Solgaleo gridded?
I haven't done them yet, only hop Cyrus and sycamore
syc is my only gridded aside from Helena cause her orbs came from event
I can do Giovanni and dolgaleo later today though
Oh really? Well if you can do Slowgaleo that’s great
Leaves only the leftover dragon/water
For which I would put someone with Hop.
If you have Zinnia and Acerola you can try them with Hop for dragon weak!
The Sycamore and Koga and Janine for poison
just won't be gridded
sorry my phone is lagging
I meant I could unlock gio and salgaleo but don't have orbs to grid them
Oooh I see
cause the legendary adventures don't take long
Well then fighting is the main sticking point. Sol might manage without grid though
Any other fighting types of note?
lemme check
I only have maylene brawly and korrina
so fighting is gunna be an off type fight.
I could use Kris/totodile on water weakness, Cyrus on dragon weakness? Cyrus isn't gridded for dragon yet though since I don't have the boosts yet
and Helena should handle Agatha right?
Solgaleo will spam focus blast for fighting
as aurochs said, Zinnia with acerola for Dragon, then Cyrus for water, paired with a rain dance user
Can you make these?
Oh wait I forgot Kris
Is Kris gridded?
Can try her if you want
I do not have rain dance units :p
no Winona yet?
nop
oof
ok this might be a bit more difficult if you don't have some low gacha units then
unfortunate you came around right after anniversary and a lot of free pulls yeah
but it'll build up in time
Dammit

Kris and no Winona
it'd probably be easier if I just posted my roster
just hate taking up so much space with big ass ss
If you have time to do the tracker that’s great, if not I’m pretty confident with the screenshotted pairs
I'm on mobile rn, if I do the tracker on mobile can I transfer it to PC later too?
yeah you can import & export settings
It gives you some code you can copy paste
just throw it on a private server of yours for safekeeping
Huh Helena is pretty self sufficient
ok cool
yea if you run her with the paralysis up it's pretty easy, one lick usually procs it them just use her buff moves
Sharp entry on grid too so she can fully self buff if needed!
oh I didn't see that
that's helpful
is my phone just not loading properly what are these blanks
should I just post the code? it's also pretty long
Picture is probably better
my phone is not playing nice with the website rn, trying to save the image
save image button will just not work for me Christ
oh wait it just adds an image to the bottom
oops
Lucy/seviper, Cyrus and sycamore wouldn't show up for me so they aren't marked even though I have them
also this is so much easier to keep track of your roster
hiya! will Korina along with appropriate supports be able to beat lorelei?
How do I access that?
Probably yes but she needs acc buffs and average or above supports.
Besides increasing her evasion, Lorelei has crit shield before her first sync
I see
Yeah. Too much work
you need to manually mark your units but it's more organized once you actually do it
it only took me like 15 minutes but only have 55 units
would've been faster on PC
alright I don't have any accuracy buff pairs
Korrina can win without accuracy buffs
What is this downer talk
She does need 4* though
And round 2 helps a lot
will solgaleo work if I don't have them gridded?
It’ll be slower but it’ll work
Remember not to attack Lorelei until after your first sync
ok cause they're my only access to fighting DMG I think
these ones?
Yes
The Solgaleo team can work.
Gotta grind up some synch pairs. Solgaleo is completely gridded but my Hop and Marley aren't
Orbs*
For Lorelei I should build Marley like a defensive support right?
who should i use to off type with gio and nidoking 2k
using post sync parameters
maybe leaf and ss blue?
Isn't that ontype?
what does an off type need
if i'm gunna use these teams what would the order for the elite 4 fight be?
I assume the poison team is used against blue last but otherwise im not sure what order I should use the teams in against the elite 4 because of the modifiers
Something completely different type?
Like pikas on say steel weak for eģ.
I don't think it matters much this week. Just avoid fighting Bruno R2 because it's physical attack up
Don’t fight Bruno or Lance round 2. Aside from that, not so important. You could use round 1 to fish for burns I suppose.
Ugh why is only Johto 1/5 morty so difficult I have to rely on flinch rng and it’s not good
Which morty
Two turn moves bad
Base
It can work
But
I got close and kinda miss clicked Whitney tm instead of
Stool
Stomp
My ghost team is SSRCynthia/Redlax/Morty so when I fought Wise Entry x2 Ghost weak Lucian, it was two-turn moves galore that messed up with my countdown so much, even Red couldn't fix it 
Haha Lucian gets deleted so fast by SSRynthia’s nuke
yeah i was gonna use nido on the bottom left chick
Why tho
You have the new pair for ghost now
Unless u doing a self imposed challenge
In which case uhh
because i fked up and have the spa condition
and i only have nido as phys striker
wait would ssr cynthia be good then
And they disappear before your first sync anyway
Well it makes Quadqueueing harder to impossible but that’s it
no, Giovanni still has higher Shadow Ball damage
I think Gio is at least top 5 ghost DPS
She is ok for LG. A nice ghost type DMG dealer. Doesn't have to be useful everywher
Alright well I tried some of the teams I was recommended and just didnt do enough damage so I guess i'm gunna put off CS until I can get more orbs for gridding units/ex/etc
Unless im just dumb idk
How many points are you going for?
Ok so here's my current team. Marley is part of the way gridded, solgaleo is fully gridded and Hop is partially gridded. What should my gameplan be going into Round 4 Lorelei. I can get her Lapras down, but by that point everyone's on such low health that a single attack takes them out.
On master mode with 850 btw
I don’t know how you get low when hop uses potioks could you send a video of what you’re doing

or something



