Champion Stadium

[white gale]

any recs on a good Fighting team?

[zealous karma]

Bea Hilbert Nanu

[white gale]

ok, so just forget SSA Cynthia... so sad, she was sooo expensive for me to get

[stoic vine]

Might as well get started asking for in a couple days so I can train them up. I'm looking for a good Fighting, Water, Poison, Dragon and Ghost team. I need medals for normal, water, Poison, ground, bug, and dragon. Below are my availible units (please be patient, data is very slow lol)

[swift swan]

SSA Cynthia/Bea/accuracy buffer then

or if you want to forego the accuracy buffs, Solgaleo can max his own accuracy

thing is, unless you have someone with sync acceleration, you can't sync with your damage dealer under zone. so you need to rely on DPS, which... against Lorelei, there's a good chance you'll miss most if not all of the time

[swift swan]

water team? cyrus/may/roxanne works fine

[stoic vine]

Hard mode btw

[swift swan]

Cyrus and Zinnia can also work for dragon. zinnia just needs weather (any kind of weather)

[stoic vine]

Don't remember if I said that

[zealous karma]

I didn’t know you had her or any of the units you had so I just recommended an all gen pool one lel, you can replace Nanu on that team with her

[stoic vine]

Could throw Bertha on a team with zinnia just to get the medal

Can throw up sandstorm

[swift swan]

sure, that works!

just bring a speed buffer to top that off

I don't think zinnia can raise her own crit and Bertha can only raise it by two so you need MPR on Bertha's TM

or bring another crit buffer

Poison and bug is good for stalling (which is perfect for poison-weak next week) so I'd say Viola and Janine. just remember Blue has Sync Cure next week so you need to reapply poison after he syncs

[toxic cobalt]

I’ve never actually stalled a sync cure team, do we have confirmation that works?

[swift swan]

I don't see why it shouldn't? I stalled poison-weak Blue once, but I was only doing 850 points or so back then

also, hard mode should die quickly enough I think

[stoic vine]

So we have

Water - Cyrus/May/Roxanne
Dragon - Zinnia/Bertha/Lyra? (speed+crit)
Poison - Viola/Janine/Cheryl?

[swift swan]

hmmm I don't think you have Leaf yet do you?

[stoic vine]

I don't

[swift swan]

I don't think Lyra can tank Lance long enough worth a try tho. if not, try Kiawe

[stoic vine]

I'll give it a shot at least

Anything for fighting and ghost?

[swift swan]

I don't think Cheryl is bulky enough. the poison stage is mainly special but the left side has double edge and cheryl will absolutel crumble to any physical move

[stoic vine]

Good point

Just trying to work in the medals that i need somewhere

I have very few normal types

[swift swan]

Giovanni works just fine for Ghost. As for Fighting, I think Solgaleo is your best choice against Lorelei who buffs her evasion to oblivion. just click TM twice

I think for normal you're better off slotting Gladion somewhere

[stoic vine]

What I have so far

Still have ashchu and sst red I can throw in somewhere

[swift swan]

Giovanni needs someone to buff special attack for him

Solgaleo needs crit

as for the poison stall team, I'd say Sycamore works fine if you're not planning to use him anywhere else

[stoic vine]

Updated and messed around a bit

Ghost was between Elio and Rotom

[swift swan]

Gladion's missing crit but if he's only there for filler, it's alright

hopefully the solgaleo team doesn't have gauge issues

[toxic cobalt]

If blue is mostly spatk I suggest switching Janine for Koga just to save rng

[white gale]

how about Bea/SSA Cynthia/SS Elesa with Head Start? My accuracy gets buffed and I can sync a full cycle earlier? but if I sync first with Bea, won't I lose the Fighting zone too early?

[swift swan]

SS Elesa buffs accuracy?

she only buffs her own evasion I think

[keen jasper]

Her TM buffs accuracy

[white gale]

so is that team viable?

[toxic cobalt]

Any team with Bea is viable

[zealous karma]

Why Lyra and Bertha ?

[toxic cobalt]

Adding SSACynthia is extra security

[white gale]

My Bea only 1/5 unfortunately 😦

[zealous karma]

Bea works for on type at any move level

[white gale]

I also have Redlax with Head Start, so that's an earlier sync as well.

[stoic vine]

Bertha for weather and because I need medals. Lyra because I was told I need crit and speed

[zealous karma]

No Sabrina?

Because Lyra without sun buffs Spd by one rank

Wow buffing crit and Spd is a very rare type

Most units thay do need a grid to do so

Or SSB

So that’s where his value comes from

The more you learn

🦑

[white gale]

yeah it's like buffing Sp Att and Def. Very rare

Some others buff Speed and Crit if you have grid, though sometimes slowly: Samurott, Sabrina, Exeguttor. Sonia when she gets hit, Ingo if you attack with him during Sandstorm, SS Morty when sunny

[zealous karma]

Ye that’s what I said here lel

[stoic vine]

I'm not great at team building so just following what advice I can get 😅

My units are above if you've got any good suggestions. Still have some medals left to get

[white gale]

what types are you still trying to use? and you're looking at next week?

[zealous karma]

Don’t worry team building is a learning process

[white gale]

Yup, there is much to learn, so keep adding to your knowledge base!

[stoic vine]

Yeah, I'm slowly learning what's good and what I like using

I needed dragon, ground, bug, water, and normal

And it's for next week so I can start preparing units

[keen jasper]

Dragon with Cyrus

I wish I can mention the other types but you probably haven't played the events 2 months ago

[stoic vine]

Sadly no

I've only been playing for a couple weeks

[zealous karma]

Why can’t you use Cyrus for dragon again?

May is fine without him

[stoic vine]

Oh I just meant I didn't play the event two months ago

I can use everyone of my units

[zealous karma]

I’d just use Cyrus for dragon and you can get two free types from there

[white gale]

IF you're just trying to fill in with those types, Cyrus for Dragon, Mudsdale, Naomi or Courtney for Ground, Viola for Bug, Hilbert, Nessa, Misty, Elio, May or SS Blastoise for Water, and Cheryl or Persian for Normal

(I'm trying to think of free or gen pool units, I don't know what you have)

[keen jasper]

Roxanne is rock

[stoic vine]

I'm trying to make teams that'll both fill the slots and work to beat it on hard mode

[white gale]

are you trying to win battles weak to those types, or just need to fill in the medal?

don't need to show eggmons

[zealous karma]

No EXrosa but instead Ex dawn based

You also only ever need to show 5*’s it’s assumed you have all 3-4* non limited pairs

Grass: Dawn(grass) Kiawe(fire) Nanu(dark)
Flying: Bludgeot(flying) EleSSa(electric) Roxanne(rock)
Rock: Cyrus(dragon) May(water) sycamore(fairy)
Ice: Ghetsus(ice) clay(ground) BP Janine(poison) that’s if you can grab her
Steel: Hop(steel) Sivally(normal) acerola(ghost)
@stoic vine

[stoic vine]

It's for next week

[zealous karma]

I just made an all around getting max 15 types

If you are only missing a few than I can make some teams based off that

Those are just ideas 🦑

Far from optimal

[stoic vine]

I'm missing poison, ground, Dragon, water, bug and normal

Though my normal options are verrryy limited

Normal pulling rng bad 😭

[white gale]

Fighting - Solgaleo/Hop/Cheryl
Water - Nessa/Bertha/May
Ghost - Mewtwo/Lucian/Sabrina
Dragon - Cyrus/Viola/Falkner or Phoebe
Poison - Janine/BP Erika or Koga/Xerneas (poison stall team)

@stoic vine try those. you can tweak as you see fit

[swift swan]

normal is just a down bad type

[zealous karma]

I can not think of a good normal type

[white gale]

Redlax. PErsian is not bad

[zealous karma]

I forgot those units existed so therefore are not real units

[simple storm]

true

[white gale]

LOL

[simple storm]

dont forget norman

the best normal type

[zealous karma]

Norman is SSS+ tier

So he doesn’t count

[simple storm]

Trueeee

too broken

[white gale]

I dont' even know what Norman does lol

[zealous karma]

Double edge body spam healing TM can sync nuke now I think and has some support

Basically

Calem does what he does

But better

So Calem>>>> always

[white gale]

Name checks out

[zealous karma]

I was told Calem was a direct upgrade to Norman so my entire week was made

[plucky pewter]

almost forgot to finish CS for the week lol

[tired cypress]

I kind of wanted to ve excited about my first 10k but also Kanto is the easiest stadium and I'm using double pika and sssteven

[swift swan]

hey, appreciate yourself more

congrats on the first 10k!

[plucky pewter]

good going!!!

[tribal agate]

congratz!

[tired sleet]

Does poison weak = just stall?

Is stalling strictly better than offtype?

[formal vigil]

Not really due to it being pretty slow but it's reliable

But if you can off type probably should

[toxic cobalt]

Why not use Koga?

[swift swan]

Koga nuke gave me PTSD after he failed to crit on Azelf THREE TIMES in a row

[formal vigil]

[swift swan]

and that was even after the reset hell I went through to get TM MPR

[formal vigil]

I do remember deleting the entire of bulus second bar with koga was satisfying

[toxic cobalt]

I gave up on that clear for a reason

[keen jasper]

Lorelei has evade tomorrow right?

[formal vigil]

Yes

[spring fable]

how to bypass?

[formal vigil]

Buff accuracy

[spring fable]

hmm

[formal vigil]

Or haze/snatch

[spring fable]

fighting weak?

does solgaleo work

[formal vigil]

Yeah solgaleo works

[keen jasper]

You'll have 70% accuracy even with maxed accuracy

But can Lorelei max out her evade immediately?

[formal vigil]

No it's via look alive 9

[swift swan]

buff your own accuracy, use haze/snatch/spectral thief/topsy turvy, or bring a piercing gaze unit

[toxic cobalt]

And don’t hit Lorelei until you’ve synced once

And only hit Lorelei with your striker

[swift swan]

don't DPS at all, just nuke

[spring fable]

uhhh

its gonna be hard

[keen jasper]

Do you have OG Lillie?

[spring fable]

i do not

clefairy right

[keen jasper]

Yeah

[formal vigil]

Do you have BP clemont?

[keen jasper]

Or do you have SS Elesa?

[spring fable]

no bp clemont, but can get him

ss elesa? i have zebstrika and rotom

no emolga

[swift swan]

ss elesa is rotom

[keen jasper]

Good, you have the one with Rotom

SS Elesa's TM boosts accuracy

[spring fable]

oh nice

is accuracy buffer rare?

[keen jasper]

But it's only +2 and it's one-time

[spring fable]

😦

[keen jasper]

Lorelei will increase her evade everytime she's hit

Or you can off-type

[spring fable]

uhh

@swift swan i might ping you again for help tmr

[swift swan]

Sure!

I'll be available around reset time

[spring fable]

awesome, ty in advance!

[formal vigil]

you could also use thorton for no evasion effect on telekenisis so your attacks will always hit

he can also flinch too which can come in handy

[full mesa]

How can we bypass both look alive 9 and crit shield from Lorelei?

[formal vigil]

crit sheild use defog or kill her before she uses it

[full mesa]

I don't think I can do that. I'm running SSACynthiaEX/BeaEx/BPClemont.

I definitely need 3 syncs.

[formal vigil]

look alive 9 thoron, piercing gaze, acuuracy buffs and haze/snatch

[full mesa]

I don't want to use Volkner/SSTRedEx/Darach again.

[formal vigil]

how come you need 3 syncs for your team can't you just sync with ssa cynthia then bea the stage wipe?

especiialy since your using bp clemont

for defence debuffs

[full mesa]

Not really. First I'll have to quadqueue and then Bea will have to one shot middle on her sync.

[mellow linden]

With Support EX and someone to handle Attack/crit Bea can probably KO Lorelei before your team can even get to 2nd Sync unless you get unlucky and miss a whole bunch

[full mesa]

If I do that, I'll have to give her 20%+ hp parameter. Raising the hp even higher.

[full mesa]

That's what I'm afraid.

[mellow linden]

Happen to have Fall Caitlin or 3/5 Aaron?

[full mesa]

Neither

[mellow linden]

Oof

I guess Lillie could work if you have 3/5 Bea or 3/5 SSA Cynthia

[full mesa]

5/5 Bea and 1/5 SSACynthiaEX

[lethal cloud]

for quad queue in this scenario maybe you will want Bea to take out the left side foe first since Cynthia's fighting zone will go off right before the first sync

[mellow linden]

Can just grid for less Sync base power in order to have Sharp Entry tile

[lethal cloud]

if timed right it will die and cynthia will be able to "re-gain" the lost queue due to fighting zone wearing off right before sync

[full mesa]

I'm between Lillie and BPMorty. Both buff ACC and then one raise att and the other lowers def.

[mellow linden]

Worth noting that if SSA Cynthia has Adrenaline Lucky Skill then quadqueue is unnecessary

[full mesa]

I use that. Max crit on entry.

[lethal cloud]

yeah, adrenaline does the trick too

[full mesa]

I have adrenaline. The issue is Lorelei. 26k hp, probably around 30k with 20% up

[formal vigil]

a fighnting zone bea should be able to wrech that no problem

[full mesa]

We'll see. If it fails either I'll use SSTRedEx or poison stall.

[mellow linden]

Yeah, I honestly am not concerned for your ability to take on Lorelei with Bea + SSA Cynthia

Should be an easy clear

[full mesa]

I need to spend 4 turns buffing Bea. 2 speed/2 att if I use BPClemont.

Maybe Lillie is the better choice.

[mellow linden]

I think Lillie would be a little better, personally

[eternal mist]

Is tmws CSMM difficult

Are there any stages that we need to be wary about

[keen jasper]

Well, I think Lorelei's evasion is going to be annoying

[eternal mist]

Ah and it's fighting weak

I'll just use pikachus i guess

Fighting water poison ghost and dragon. I guess I shld be okay if plumeria carries her weight

[keen jasper]

It's Fall Iris's chance later

[eternal mist]

I don't have any of iris besides haxorus

[swift swan]

three? SSA Cynthia first sync, then Bea 2nd sync should kill Lorelei, easy

if Lorelei's too bulky, take more attack and power on hit tiles, don't take HP at all. Cynthia can handle it, she's probably the best tank this game has rn

[dark osprey]

Yeah. Wouldn't reach 2nd sync most probably with the buddy move

Works for most offtypes as well

[ocean beacon]

any1 know the order to fight the elite4?

[keen jasper]

That depends on your teams

You have to check the round parameters mainly

[swift swan]

don't fight Agatha round 3 is all I will say for this week

[crystal galleon]

Had to check this thread just in case and immediately saw that so glad I did beforehand

[crisp dragon]

week 3 today?

poison weak blue
i can finally use plumeria

[toxic cobalt]

Yes week 3 today

[swift swan]

wow a plumeria user

[toxic cobalt]

They live among us

[tired cypress]

sus?

[keen jasper]

Fucking Agatha and her Dazzling Gleam

[spring fable]

@swift swan hi, please assist 🙂

[swift swan]

master mode right?

[spring fable]

Do I have to clear non master first?

[swift swan]

for starters, this week is the probably the most f2p friendly week we can ever get this month

[swift swan]

no

if you've unlocked master mode, you can directly attempt it

as long as you got all 18 types in

which I recall you have?

[spring fable]

Ah yes I do!

[swift swan]

hmm let's see, for now I've got:
dragon-weak: zinnia/ss kris/lucas. use draco meteor build for zinnia. would be even better if you can give her Dauntless lucky skill
water-weak: cyrus/may/roxanne. remember to grid Cyrus for critical focus

For fighting-weak, Solgaleo with a crit and speed buffer can do the trick, but Lorelei buffs her evasion to oblivion this week, so I think it's better to offtype that with a piercing gaze unit, like SS Red under sun

[rose ermine]

I think i might actually be able to win

I hope ex actually makes Lisia nuke ok

[formal vigil]

Just remember to defog rain away

[rose ermine]

Oh yeah

[formal vigil]

Since it deactivates her innate

[sharp totem]

i wanna meet whoever made this lapras

[keen jasper]

Which Lapras?

[formal vigil]

Damm for lorelei I found it easier to not attack her at all before first sync

So she doesn't stack too much evasion

[swift swan]

Ghost-weak: giovanni/special attack buffer like sabrina or ss elesa/lucian to lower sp def

poison weak you can either stall with janine/bp erika/sycamore or just offtype with Ash alongside Volkner and a tank

as for the order of fighting the E4 this time, I don't think it matters that much. just avoid fighting Bruno or Lance on Round 2

[rose ermine]

That was way too clutch

[trail smelt]

Easy monotype this week, though I had to drop BP Zinnia to usher in Zerena haha

Ready for next week’s monotype

Never gonna field a full fairy team again

Hate all of our roster

[sharp totem]

simple as

neat

[spring fable]

Okies, I’ll try it out

[swift swan]

good luck!

[swift swan]

okay let me correct myself. ditch the roxanne plan, she's weak to fighting. go for a bulkier tank. Falkner should be able to tank Bruno just fine

Dawn/Cyrus/May can 2k Bruno, I've tried. but there was some gauge issues

[spring fable]

Like this? Or swap blue with hop

@swift swan

[swift swan]

that should be able to work

[spring fable]

Or hop with silver

[keen jasper]

Man, Lodge May did 21k damage even if I didn't build her for sync nuke

Wish I had SS Kris to complement Lodge May

[swift swan]

I suggested Red against Lorelei because he's the one with Piercing Gaze

Lorelei is going to give you a hell of a time if you come in without accuracy buffs. Relying on a nuke is risky

it's better if Red has someone to buff special attack for him since he's only 1/5. Maybe you can switch Hop and SS Blue's positions if you want, though Blue doesn't buff quickly anyway

[spring fable]

Hmm

Idk who to run

Rosa?

Rosa /red / Blaine

[old orchid]

what move level is your Red?

if he is above 2/5, bring a atk buffer

[eternal mist]

Why not

[old orchid]

what is the parameter of round 3?

[swift swan]

that was last week, r3 was special damage up so agatha hit pretty hard

this week it's special damage reduction on R3

[swift swan]

only 1/5

[swift swan]

sure, that can work

[spring fable]

I did lance first

[swift swan]

yeah should be fine

[spring fable]

Skip bruno for round 3/4 right

[swift swan]

shhh if you have strong pairs like that it barely matters what order you fight them in

[eternal mist]

Bruno could be round 4 tbh

[swift swan]

the only round param that matters is half sync countdown

[eternal mist]

Tbh Morty would have been possible in r3 too..

[bleak eagle]

Any round order recommended?

[eternal mist]

What kinda units do u have

U mainly need to position them around your units to use for rounds 2 and 3

[spring fable]

I lost to loreilei

[eternal mist]

Which stage is she on

[spring fable]

Round 2

[eternal mist]

What are your units

[spring fable]

Rosa, ss red and Blaine

[old orchid]

you can use Solgaleo

[eternal mist]

Ss red is charizard?

[old orchid]

it can buff acc to max and has fighting coverage

[swift swan]

What happened

[swift swan]

Focus blast itself is still low accuracy though because lorelei buffs her own evasion?

[eternal mist]

Red doesn't have the right buffs for haymaker with that setup

[bleak eagle]

Ignore round order, just made teams based on weakness

Might have to offtype the champ

[swift swan]

Only 1/5 red

[swift swan]

You should be fine. If the poison team doesn't work you can always offtype or stall

[eternal mist]

Erm do you have Morty instead of allister/gio? U might need a tank for Cyn

[bleak eagle]

If it's mismagius, she might not survive

[eternal mist]

May SSblue Archie is Def round 4 for Bruno

[bleak eagle]

1/5 and still 4

[eternal mist]

Drifblim

The one with phantom force

[bleak eagle]

2/5

[eternal mist]

Yeah put that in and swap out gio for a tank

[spring fable]

I killed Lapras, and a side, the last side killed me with psychic

[bleak eagle]

Done deal, what abt round order?

[swift swan]

Hmmm how close were you

Maybe some turn denials were needed

[bleak eagle]

I can also use zinnia instead of cyrus, she's gridded to spam draco meteor

[swift swan]

Did you manage to get 2 syncs in? I imagine it should be easy with SS Red's adrenaline and occasional propulsion

[eternal mist]

Dragon 1 (you can swap Aaron out for status tbh)
Fighting 2
Ghost 3
Water 4

Cyrus is great dw. Esp with ex and alakazam.

[bleak eagle]

If we talkin status i can only think of ss cyrua

But ofc i cant use 2 cyrus' on the same team

[eternal mist]

Lol u can use Agatha etc you know

[spring fable]

I did not

[bleak eagle]

I dont rlly use status beside poison so, but ig i could add agatha

[swift swan]

did you triple queue correctly

[eternal mist]

Yeah status is guuuddd

Esp for r1

[swift swan]

Red has nice gauge control, Blaine is super fast, Rosa is a gauge battery. Shouldn't have gauge issues

Just don't use giga drain with rosa, stick to energy ball

[spring fable]

I know

But I’m squishy and dont do enough dmg with red

[swift swan]

Rosa has a very nice special bulk tho make sure Red clicks dire hit+ twice and at least 1 my destiny

[spring fable]

That worked!!

Was I using my destiny twice and direhit once bad?

I tried yours and managed to clear with Zard and rapid ash alive

[swift swan]

Maxing crit is very important

At +2 crit, that's only 80% chance to crit on a regular move and 50% on sync move. At +3, it's 100% for regular move and 80% on sync move

[main crow]

Man that crit shield Lorelei was annoying, had to delay Wally's sync for one cycle before going all in

[swift swan]

Crit itself already gives innate 1.5x multiplier and bypasses defenses buffs and damage reduction shields, that's why you get more damage in

Oh right, I forgot Lorelei has crit shield postsync

She didn't live long enough to max her own evasion for me

[main crow]

Yeah you warned me abt evasion which wasn't really a big deal lmao

The crit shield delaying things tho

[eternal mist]

How far in did it start to buff Eva

[main crow]

She has look alive 9

So any successful attack raises her evasion by +1

[swift swan]

You don't need my destiny twice. 2 x sp atk all from Rosa already gives Red +4 sp atk, so you only need my destiny once. Sure using my destiny twice will max red's speed but he doesn't really need it. At +3 speed his gauge is already flying off I bet

[eternal mist]

Oh okay

I think I had no issue coz I only attacked her post support EX, coz I wanted to deny the sides

[main crow]

Lorelei +6 evasion is such a joke, +4 accuracy focus blast can still hit continuously lol

[eternal mist]

[static kettle]

Did my first 10k today

[eternal mist]

U were lucky I guess

[eternal mist]

Congrats

[swift swan]

Must be some nice RNG then. I wouldn't trust focus blast even in normal circumstances

[swift swan]

Well done

[main crow]

Tbf I didn't do a whole lot of focus blasting, a lot of turns was spent on low sleep for the kekwalk

[swift swan]

Oh I thought you meant Solgaleo's focus blast

Never tried using kekwalk wally

[spring fable]

@swift swan I just cleared it, without the points

Damn that was hard

[main crow]

Oh yeah would there be any annoying gimmick for next week's Lorelei? If not I'm planning to do 2k alolan Golem funne

[old orchid]

next week she still has evasion gimmick, but only buffs evasion before sync

[main crow]

On nice no look alive

[swift swan]

You can check her passives on pomatools

But yeah electric-weak lorelei isn't much compared to fighting-weak

[eternal mist]

Did u manage to clear it btw

[main crow]

Ready for next week, I love running Sycamore DPS

[gaunt sentinel]

4/5 Wally or 1/5 Bea for Lorelei

Pairing them with SSA Cynthia

[keen jasper]

Definitely 4/5 Wally

[spring fable]

Stuck at lorelei again, now with 850 pts

Any other comps that’ll work?

[tranquil pier]

Running 1/5 Archie on Bruno rn and it's not working, is onix that bulky?

[swift swan]

Huh I thought you got it already

Who was that red team fighting then?

[swift swan]

Pretty sure it doesn't have extra bulk

[keen jasper]

Who are your accuracy buffers?

[spring fable]

It’s lorelei, but without point mods

[spring fable]

No one I think, comp is Rosa/redzard and Blaine

[swift swan]

Aaah I see

You take the pinned 850 points param?

[spring fable]

I did!

[swift swan]

Hmmm it only adds 10 levels of bulk to Lorelei, which shouldn't be much. How close were you?

Also did you manage to sync twice before Lorelei gets to sync? Lorelei is very annoying postsync

Make sure to triplequeue all the time. ss red is a great unit to quadqueue with

Also, remembrr don't use sunny day on turn 1 because it'll go away by the time red syncs. You're still busy setting up anyway. Use it on 2nd turn or after

[spring fable]

Not very close

Dont think Rosa is good choice considering I only have 4 gauges

[dark osprey]

For a presync you mainly use 6 moves. So just start with an energy ball, then x sp atk all, x sp atk all. EX support sync, TM, TM, TM

Can support two four gauge users if quad queued

[potent wadi]

Is the Poison CS this weak deal Physical or Special damage?

[full mesa]

Both

[spring fable]

I can’t

Too squishy

Barely made it into 2nd sync

[silver dirge]

Is it just me or is Bruno really bulky this week 😳

[bleak eagle]

Worked like a charm vs the e4, but for the champion im crafting a team

Sycamore exists so im good tankwise, deciding on the other 2 members

[eternal mist]

alright lmk if you need help with the champ

[spring fable]

can i see your teams for lorelei pls

[swift swan]

It's only a strength 1 difference though how low was Lorelei's health?

And did you get to 2nd sync at all before she synced?

Also maybe it's just a matter of luck. If lorelei keeps using hard-hitting moves, it's a good idea to reset

[spring fable]

only managed to sync once before she syncs 😦

[swift swan]

Hmmm couldn't quadqueue?

Don't use sunny day on turn 1 because it will disrupt the quadqueue

[spring fable]

hmm idkmuch about quadqueuing

and i use blain tm twice before sunny day

[swift swan]

If rosa keeps dying too quickly though, you can switch to a bulkier support. Maybe switch ss blue and rosa's spots (since Ash should delete easily anyway)

[swift swan]

There's a pinned video about it

Might worth checking

Takes some practice though

[plucky pewter]

would iris/nagan be able to help looker carry for poison match up or not really? am lacking on poison units unfortunately

or does she have a role like alder?

[swift swan]

Also you don't need a quadqueue if you're lucky with propulsion. Just remember to never delay a synv

[swift swan]

She should carry him with zone alone

[plucky pewter]

awesome thank you, i was hoping it would be possible

[spring fable]

so wait for all animations to end to sync with zard again?

[keen jasper]

My teams for next week, this will also be my first time clearing with monotype teams

[full mesa]

I'm going to have issues with fairy again.

[keen jasper]

I really wished I had SS Brendan

Oh well, gonna have to save up for him and for SS May

Hopefully no 4/5 and 5/5 for them

[full mesa]

My fairies are Sycamore/Lillie/Sylveon/Granbull. I might have to off-type.

[swift swan]

you should be able to predict when exactly to sync. typically each unit uses 3 moves before you can sync, so don't go above 3 moves on any unit

once you can sync, click the sync button with red and then click moves with rosa and blaine

[spring fable]

nope not even close ToT

[swift swan]

is it possible to record what happened?

[spring fable]

file is too big 😦

[old orchid]

You can upload it to youtube or streamable

[keen jasper]

Upload it via YT and private the video

And send the link here

[trail smelt]

I gave up on monotyping Fairy lol

Going with full normal team Vs fairy weak instead

[spring fable]

https://youtu.be/sGw-BbroxzY

Idk why the quality is low

[full mesa]

Maybe I'll use something like BPMorty/SSTRedEx/Volkner.

[mellow linden]

I’m even more excited for Lucy’s grid now that I’ve beaten Blue using her without it being released

[keen jasper]

Your mistake, is being slow

[spring fable]

T^T

[keen jasper]

And also poor gauge management

[full mesa]

I used Sycamore/Alister/Koga sync nuke. Alister was dealing more damage with sludge bomb than Koga with sync and a sync nuke build...

[spring fable]

@keen jasper how to improve?

[gaunt sentinel]

any particularly good pair to put with Kyogre and Palkia for Bruno

[keen jasper]

By using your abilities at the appropriate time

[full mesa]

Tap faster/Think ahead. You can't wait until Rosa uses the TM in order for the gauge to move. You have to queue 3 moves each time.

[full mesa]

Something that boosts defence. I used SSBlueEx/CyrusEx/May.

Also you need speed or gauge accel. Roxanne works too.

[mellow linden]

I was lucky and got Fall Iris off a yolo tenfold, so Poison Zone was a big help for me

[full mesa]

Yeah. 4* Koga was just a disappointment.

Now I'll use a team of Hop/Speed/Granbull for next week. Hoping that it'll work.

[void estuary]

Should I be able to clear 10k w my box? I'm stuck at 4200-5k every week 😦 also any pokemon under 130 that I glanced over? (A trainer I should level)

[keen jasper]

You have probably more than enough to 10k

[full mesa]

If you do 4.2k constantly then you can easily try for 7.5k. Do that before 10k.

[spring fable]

can sycamore leech stall?

[mellow linden]

Should be very easy to do 10k, but you can try 7.5k 1st

[full mesa]

Who?

[spring fable]

ok i somehow won lorelei but not the way i was planning to

[full mesa]

A win is a win.

[swift swan]

ok I see how it is now.

1. on the first turn, your queue was too slow. That's why Blaine's Raging Inferno was queued after Lorelei's move. you didn't click his TM fast enough before Lorelei does something. Reduce your game speed to the lowest so you can have more time window. other than that, the first sync cycle was fine.
2. after red's first sync, there is a small time window when the opponent didn't queue anything yet. you should use this time window to queue another move with red. that is called quadqueue

[keen jasper]

But the guy was at 2 gauges

[full mesa]

Until you learn the game mechanics and tricks most of the time your plans will fail miserably. Trial and error.

[keen jasper]

After he synced Red

[full mesa]

Tm

Doesn't take bar

[swift swan]

he could just click my destiny. anything that can reduce the sync move countdown

[keen jasper]

Well, that's not me

[swift swan]

any regular move counts towards the countdown after all

[spring fable]

Game tips recommended Wally, hilbert for physatk support, sycamore to tank, ended up with Wally dying first, somehow samurott and xerneas survived and carried

sad looks like speed is everything in this game

T^T i dont move fast

[full mesa]

Yes

[swift swan]

Roxanne's weak to fighting and has bad HP. She's gonna get bodied quickly

[swift swan]

it sure is

[full mesa]

Bruno is rock this week

[void estuary]

Any of these low levels I'm sleeping on that's really good?

[spring fable]

how do the slower minded players play T^T

[swift swan]

xerneas hard carries a lot of things

yeah just realized my mistake lol

[mellow linden]

All good

[swift swan]

plan the move queues beforehand and play on slowest speed

[full mesa]

Why don't you take a break? Everyone needs it. We'll hold the fort until you're ok to continue.

[swift swan]

dawn and aaron

[full mesa]

Lucian too. Double stats drop and free speed boost.

[swift swan]

thanks I'll check in from time to time, gotta wash the dishes

[lunar meadow]

What an easy week.

Might be a good one for a challenge run

[full mesa]

Apart from Blue the rest are ok.

[boreal rose]

Which to fight as r3?

For Agatha j have Anni Lillie so i doubt i will have a lot of issues then

But i had trouble with Lorelei at r2

[mellow linden]

I'm inclined to say Agatha, but it depends a bit on who you're planning to use for each one

[boreal rose]

Anni Lillie for Agatha

[lunar meadow]

Lorelai is mainly about the evasion buffs. If you cannot counter her evasion, having some damage reduction against her is not bad

[boreal rose]

With Lorelei i have problems

[trail smelt]

If you have trouble with Lorelei, don’t make that your R4 fight

[boreal rose]

And my Korrina does more than Bea

Normal Korina

[trail smelt]

Because that one causes problems when mons die haha

[lunar meadow]

How is Lucario doing more than Sirfetchd....

[boreal rose]

Its EX

[lunar meadow]

Is your Sirfetchd not?

Sirfetchd is one of the best gen pool damage dealers, fantastic 3/5 EX

[boreal rose]

Its not

She is also 2/5

[full mesa]

Then use korrina.

[lunar meadow]

I EX mine at 2/5

[trail smelt]

Do you have any accuracy buffers?

[mellow linden]

What team did you use with Korrina/Bea?

[boreal rose]

Idk

Dawn

And Maylene

Tortilla Dawn

Not Sygna Dawn

[lunar meadow]

There aren't many passive accuracy buffers or good evasion droppers.

I like to run monotype teams, so I typically use Medicham and use her TM after your first sync, when the enemy is at like +3 evasion.

Two hits in a row guaranteed hit

[mellow linden]

Could you replace Dawn with an Attack buffer? It's fine if not, but I think it could help

[boreal rose]

Should i?

[mellow linden]

You could if you want

[swift swan]

no reason not to

[lunar meadow]

Probably

3/5 Mo-Oh should be able to get Lucario some buffs despite close combat

[trail smelt]

LMAO

[spring fable]

ayo i did the whole thing!!

[tribal agate]

congratz!

[spring fable]

ty to @swift swan for the comps

although i swapped dawn with aaron

[swift swan]

well done!

[spring fable]

and let xerneas carry me cause i was slow with redzard

[dapper coyote]

Need help with team building for this week's CS guys. Here are my characters

[full mesa]

Hard mode or MM?

[swift swan]

it's fine, you'll get better with practice

[full mesa]

If hard mode, what types are you missing?

[dapper coyote]

Hard

[full mesa]

7 types. Ok, let's see what we have here.

•Roxanne/Mewtwo/Acerola for Agatha. Focus on Acerola flinch. Rock/Ghost.
•CyrusEx/Hapu/Eevee for Lance. Not much to say. Normal/Ground
•Ash/Nanu/SSBlue for Lorelei. Make sure Ash has at least one sync buff before attack Mid with buddy move. Also don't hit mid. Dark.
•Hop/Sycamore/Koga. Koga poisons and then Sync attacks. 1st sync on Sycamore. Poison.

Try those.

[dapper coyote]

Wow thanks

What about for Bruno?

[boreal rose]

Which of these would work with Anni lillie?

Rosa?

Or Skyla

Or maybe other woukd work

Idk

And idk if i woukd need one of them for Blue

[steel kelp]

Lillie

[mellow linden]

Skyla would be a little better for A. Lillie since she maxes her own Sp. Atk. and crit

[lunar meadow]

Lunala is self sufficient. She needs no offensive buffs.

So Swanna is a pretty good support, unless you need swanna elsewhere

[boreal rose]

I used skyla in the end

Idk which of the 4 in game parameters to use tho

For Blue

[mellow linden]

What team are you using?

[boreal rose]

FIris

Koga and Sonoa

[mellow linden]

Enhanced statuses then

[boreal rose]

The 1st oneM

[mellow linden]

You're gonna want to Poison

Yeah, round 1 effect

[boreal rose]

I am unable to beat him

Maybe il try post sync

[full mesa]

May/EleSSa/Aaron. Sorry I forgot about him.

[boreal rose]

Tho now they easily take doeb sonia

So Lillie will die even faster

[dapper coyote]

Thanks. No worries

Wait why can't I get a fighting medal with solgaleo?

[mellow linden]

Solgaleo is Steel type, that's why. A Sync Pair's type is determined by the type of their Sync, regardless of what other moves they have

The exception is Gladion, who always counts as Normal type regardless of what type he shifts to

[dapper coyote]

Ohh I see

Ahh

[boreal rose]

[keen silo]

[dapper coyote]

I can't 🥲

[full mesa]

What exactly you can't

[dapper coyote]

I keep dying fast 😂

[full mesa]

I need more information

[dapper coyote]

Do I need to upgrade the sync for everyone?

My characters die before I can kill them 🙃

[full mesa]

You need them around 120-125lvl. Grids are optimal but will help the damage dealers.

[swift swan]

If you can't do the stage with two supports EX I don't know what to tell you tbh. did you triplequeue properly

[boreal rose]

Its pretty much impossible tho

To triplequequew

[dapper coyote]

Okay and how do you keep Roxanne alive for long?

[swift swan]

don't use Rosa's giga drain then

at 1/5 it's not like she's going to heal much

[boreal rose]

Even if

That still takes a lot

It takes half of the move guage

[swift swan]

let Sonia tank so she can buff teamwide speed

[boreal rose]

She does

Die to 2 hits

[swift swan]

how does Sonia die in two hits, she's rather bulky

and you have potions to back you up

[boreal rose]

So what that i have potions

Blue does 2/3 of her health

[mellow linden]

Reset if he leads with Leaf Storm, then

[boreal rose]

I did ir

Had to pre sync

[toxic cobalt]

Pre sync is best sync

[swift swan]

can't agree more

I'm the number 1 presync advocate

[frosty axle]

F2P run is available https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1026479104259801158

[toxic cobalt]

Nice double Crobat

[onyx ice]

Same, expecially if I can slot -2 or -3 sync parameters

[frosty axle]

fun to use, but was annoyed with poison not going off 😒

[onyx ice]

Hate double crobat gameplay

If only Janine's crobat had hostile environment

[frosty axle]

ye it would help a lot

[mellow linden]

Just gotta wait for the 25th and Lucy’s grid for HE 1 Poison Fang

[frosty axle]

funny how 50% poison fang rarely happens but potions/tm refreshes often for me with low rates 😅

[onyx ice]

Personally i like to use koga with regular allister

[frosty axle]

I did on my gacha run

Alister is great

just did not record it and Looker is also nice

if only I had looker above 1/5 and Allister

[onyx ice]

Don't have looker, but allister is pretty solid at 3/5

However i feel that SS Giovanni is more than enough to destroy poison weak master mode

With physical damage up parameter i managed to presync (and i mean not even using my own sync) blue

With poison zone i wouldn't have needed the extra parameter

[frosty axle]

all three runs are up now https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1026479104259801158

[manic mica]

I hate lorelei

I hate her

[keen jasper]

LMFAO, trying to "evade" your own anger?

[manic mica]

Why does she dodge everything

.

[keen jasper]

Because you keep hitting her

Look Alive 9

[manic mica]

What im i supposed to do then

Does flinching her to death work

[keen jasper]

Accuracy buffer

Or remove/steal her evasion

[manic mica]

I wanted to do that first

But then i remembered that piers is just glass

[keen jasper]

You have Lillie/Clefairy?

[formal vigil]

You could use thorton

For telekinesis +flinch

[manic mica]

I do

[keen jasper]

Good, then you can use her to raise your accuracy

X Accuracy All MP Refresh unlocks at 1/5 anyways

[frosty axle]

Sync nuking doesn't care about accuracy

so it's an option

[plush tangle]

[plush tangle]

Wanted to do mono bat on Blue (Koga/Janine/Supp Golbat) but the physical damage reduction is screwing me up (not because it reduces damage but because it fades away when I think, ruining quad queue)

oh nice blue missed a stomp, which bough me enough time to quad queue

[eternal mist]

congrats

[void estuary]

Can someone help me form a palkia water team to beat bruno at 2k? Or just anyone good w palkia? He's kicking my butt

Blastoise / palkia / ?

[mellow linden]

1st off, why is Cyrus only 4/5.

Could try Cyrus/Winona/Support (Roxanne or SS Blue would be my recommendation)

[plush tangle]

ye SS Blue/Winona/Cyrus sounds good

[void estuary]

Idk where to get his final boost to 5/5

Okay I'll try building up a Winona! Thanks guys

[mellow linden]

You’d get the voucher from his Legendary Adventures segment, if you have anything uncompleted do it and then trade for the final move level in the general exchange

Rest of your LA pairs just filtered out, I assume? I only see Cyrus and Sycamore

[void estuary]

Oh!! It was in the general tab thanks so much. Just finished him 5/5

I don't have any other LA pairs yet

[mellow linden]

Go get them, especially Hop

[void estuary]

I thought I missed the events for them

Like how Cyrus is re running. But the rest are currently not active right ?

[mellow linden]

Legendary Adventures is permanent under the story tab

The Cyrus event is only for his EX/extra grid tiles

All the Legendary Adventures pairs themselves are always available. Go to Story and then Legendary Adventures

Hop has priority, but you should get all of them

[manic mica]

I HATE HER

SHE HAD 1 PIXEL OF HP AND I MISSED 2 OF MY METEOR ASSULT

[mellow linden]

What move level is Bea and what team is that?

[void estuary]

Awesome I'll start on hop today !! Is winnona really that good even though she's 3 star? 😮

[mellow linden]

Winona’s decent in general, but her main use on this Cyrus team is Rain Dance to boost Hydro Pump to absurd levels.

Many of the 3- and 4-stars in this game are really good, so don’t ignore them. Skyla, Marley, and Roxanne are particularly strong options due to their potency as Supports

[manic mica]

Nvm i did it

[mellow linden]

I guess nevermind then, lol

[mellow linden]

Oh, hold on, Sycamore’s only got a move level of 2. 5/5 him ASAP as well

As otherwise his Support potential is somewhat lackluster

[void estuary]

Okay I managed to get center to 25%hp before I died ( the sides I didn't attack)
I followed the 2k parameters post sync guide

Is my main mission buff all 3 / rain dance / mega ex blastoise then spam hydro pump on palkia after ? And target onix?

[mellow linden]

Cyrus wants to use his Trainer Move twice before he starts attacking.

What’s your Cyrus grid?

[mellow linden]

Reset the Hydro Pump Move Gauge Refresh tile and grab the Critical Focus tile, IMO. Try to grab Healthy Healing if you can as well.

And the bottom tile in the initial hexagon requires no energy to get, only reason to not grab it would be lack of orbs

If you can’t get Healthy Healing that’s fine, just puts you on more of a timer

Basic idea would be use Trainer Move twice, then Hydro Pump. Reset if Cyrus doesn’t crit the 1st Hydro Pump.

If you’re alright with SS Blue using his Trainer Move twice in a row to max Cyrus’ crit you can ignore the Critical Focus tile

[void estuary]

You're a beast 😮

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[mellow linden]

Cyrus is the real beast here. Rain-boosted Hydro Pump is nuts

Worth noting for the rest of your CS run that SST Red and Ash are each capable of off-typing 1 fight, so you basically have 2 emergency options

[void estuary]

I couldn't have done it without you sir. I never done a 10k clear before so I'm going to try to this week

So save poison Iris for blue

Off type ghost and dragon ?

[mellow linden]

Technically you could off-type all 3 of the other Elite 4 fights if you wanted

With SS Morty + SS Red + an Attack buffer for the 3rd fight

[void estuary]

Anything for my first clear I'm happy 🥺😭😭😂

[mellow linden]

But Allister can likely take on Agatha

Or you could save him to use alongside Fall Iris later and possibly try Giovanni + Mewtwo against Agatha

You have quite a few options

[void estuary]

Ok I'll go one at a time so I'm not overwhelmed!

[zealous karma]

He’s duo 2K’d for me in the past good unit

[void estuary]

I'll start w ss red / morty/maganeium vs dragon off type

[mellow linden]

Should work pretty well, yeah

[void estuary]

This would be another team?

[full mesa]

Use emolga instead of Sonia.

It sets terrain faster for SSTRed.

[mellow linden]

Try Misty (or Classic Elesa like Chaos-X said) instead of Sonia, SST Red handles all his important buffs in a single turn

[full mesa]

Or use something that paralyze

Leaf is more than enough to tank.

[mellow linden]

I was mainly thinking faster Sp. Def. buffs for insurance, but that's fair

Classic Elesa would be really good there, tbh

Just would need to swap No Status Conditions and No Stat Reductions parameters for Max HP 2 and...maybe Defense/Sp. Defense 1?

[void estuary]

Okay I'll give her a go! Is my eeevee worth Orbing? I see 2/5 builds from the bot not sure what to do at 5/5

Or do grids stop at 3/5? (Besides the new units like wally)

[frosty axle]

most grids stop at 3/5

so grid Eevee

[mellow linden]

Grids stop at 3/5 usually, 4/5 and 5/5 tiles are a new thing that's only for some Poke Fairs currently

[void estuary]

Are there any benefits to 4 or 5 at all then? For the normal pokes

[mellow linden]

In the vast majority of cases, only minor base power increases. The biggest exception is Sycamore, whose Sync buffs Sp. Atk./Sp. Def./Speed by 1 stage + a number of stages equal to his move level

Hence why I recommended 5/5ing him ASAP

[long thicket]

Might I try this for 2k points?
Red isn't EX while my Elesa is 2/5

[mellow linden]

EX shouldn’t matter too much for SST Red

[dusty crater]

SSTRed should be able to solo himself at 2K Points

[long thicket]

I'm a longtime player, but I'm not hardcore.

So while I have go-to pairs for types, I don't think they're that good for every champion stadium fight.

For Fighting, I have EX Wally and Sygna May for boosting the sync move wait, but it's not ideal.

There's no Electric weak this week, meaning I can afford to use this team here. Although it feels like burning a good card.

[void estuary]

Okay I'm on the final stage! Should I sub someone for crobat?

[mellow linden]

I'd swap SSA Cynthia, actually. Ideally you'd want a Support who can buff Sp. Atk. and crit

[zealous karma]

Sabrina 🦑

[mellow linden]

Sabrina is a solid option, yeah

[formal vigil]

falkner works too

[zealous karma]

I didn’t mean to do that 🦑

[long thicket]

It's going a bit bad right now despite Red being here.

[mellow linden]

SS Elesa would work well too

[long thicket]

Moves are kinda weak.

[mellow linden]

In fact, I'd recommend SS Elesa over Sabrina for a Fall Iris + Koga team

[long thicket]

Using post-sync, btw.

[zealous karma]

What stage

And why can’t red pre sync

Which one

[void estuary]

Who would be my tank on that team? Emolga can tank?

[mellow linden]

SS Elesa uses Rotom, and she would be the tank, yeah

She's surprisingly survivable due to evasion shenanigans

[long thicket]

Trying Lorelei, I'm not very confident in the abilities of my Fighting sync pairs.

[formal vigil]

who do you have for fighting types

[long thicket]

Okay, Lance was pretty easy to 2k with Serena/Lucas/Brendan

I have every permanent Fighting sync pair, all are 5/5 except Korinna (3/5), all are 5*, Wally is EX.

But that's 7 of them.

[formal vigil]

well bea / 6 star ex wally should be able to easily beat it just run them with a accuracy buffer like base lilie and you should be fine

[long thicket]

OG Lillie is 5/5 EX too.

4-bar moves slightly scare me with these rulesets.

[lunar meadow]

Sirfetchd and Medicham. With a tank

Medicham makes the next move guaranteed hit. Use that tm twice in a row post your first sync.

Or bring Solgaleo who gets +6 accuracy from TM

[long thicket]

Who has the best sync between Lunala and Giratina?

Non EX both.

[formal vigil]

girantina

[mellow linden]

Giratina by a long shot

Especially if 3/5

[long thicket]

Is there a chart of base damage or something on a website?
Both 1/5, unfortunately.

[void estuary]

Who pairs best with Ash pikachu team? (Besides red)

[formal vigil]

giratina is still stronger

[mellow linden]

Volkner and a tank

[lunar meadow]

Giratina.

But when EX, Lunala for AOE and Giratina for single

[long thicket]

Alright, took a few tries, but did Agatha, thanks.

[void estuary]

Alright I'm at 6k now! Stuck on this one @mellow linden

[mellow linden]

Well 1st off, use the Tactics menu so that SS Red is targeted 3rd and Lyra is targeted 2nd

Are you Syncing 1st with SS Morty?

[void estuary]

Yup syncing morty first. I'm having trouble living through to charizards time to sync

He aoes down my team before charizard gets to mega evo

[mellow linden]

Wait, so you’re KOing the center opponent?

[void estuary]

spamming heat wave on charizard

but doesnt do much dmg

0 ko's

[mellow linden]

Can use Blast Burn if damage output is the issue

Should have plenty of gauge support from Lyra + SS Morty

Sync has good odds of KOing sides, and if any are left standing they’ll likely go down to a Heat Wave or Blast Burn

[simple storm]

blast burn will do way more

[void estuary]

I usually make it this far 😞

[mellow linden]

SS Morty and Lyra shouldn't be dying that fast. What parameters are you using?

Wait

Are you not setting Sun?

You are, now that I look at it

So 1) what parameters are you using, and 2) what are your Sync Pairs doing on their turns?

[void estuary]

Dire all / sunny day / charizard buffs / potion / ho oh sync move / reset sun / charizard attack / ho oh dies

[mellow linden]

Reasonably you're missing some turns there, but doesn't really matter.

[void estuary]

Oh I haven't orbed my ho oh

Will that make a big difference

He's 1/5 though

[mellow linden]

It'll help, and you can at least grab Trainer Move MP Refresh

[void estuary]

Still dying like crazy :*(

Should I sub out Lyra for someone else ?

[mellow linden]

Your 1st set of turns should be Lyra Dire Hit All -> basically anything from SS Red (Dire Hit+ if you need to preserve gauge, Heat Wave/Blast Burn if you can afford to use one of his moves) -> Sunny Day from SS Morty.

From there it'll be (in any order, but preferably SS Red as the 3rd action of your turn) Lyra's Trainer Move, SS Morty's Trainer Move, and Blast Burn/Heat Wave from SS Red for the next 2 turns. Unless you got unlucky and Lance led with Outrage (in which case it's probably best to reset), you shouldn't need Potion at all.

On the 3rd set of actions, do not queue anything until after you've queued SS Morty's Sync Move. Then queue Lyra's Trainer Move and Blast Burn or Heat Wave from SS Red. If you can manage to sneak in an action from SS Morty between his Sync and the opponents' next action great, but it shouldn't matter much

You shouldn't need to Potion at all until after your 1st Sync unless you got unlucky with Lance leading with Outrage

[mellow linden]

Did Lance lead with Outrage?

Wait

Hold on, something's not right

[void estuary]

Dragon claws

[mellow linden]

Ok, something's not right here, because 1) SS Morty should not be dying that fast, and 2) SS Red should have maxed Attack/Sp. Atk. by the time you get to the point you're at

Wait a minute

Are you triple-queueing?

Because Lance should not be able to get a Sync off until you're almost at your 2nd, and he's already Synced once here

[mellow linden]

You're not triple queueing. You should be having all 3 of your team members acting before each enemy action, including the one at the start of the match

That's at least 90% of your problem

Your 1st round should look something like this:

1st action: Lyra Dire Hit All

2nd action: SS Red Dire Hit+, Heat Wave, or Blast Burn (depends on if you need to preserve move gauge)

3rd action: SS Morty Sunny Day

4th action: enemy action

The enemy should not be acting until those 1st 3 actions have taken place

If you need to, slow down the game speed at the start of the fight so you can queue all 3 of your team's actions before the enemy queues theirs. From there you can set it back to the higher speed

[void estuary]

Ahhh so close!!! I got dragonite to 10% and the others to half. First time I got to mega evolve char 😭

I slowed down the game a bit

[mellow linden]

Should only be a matter of time at this point. In case you weren't doing it already, Lyra will only need to use her Dire Hit All once. SS Morty will handle any other crit buffs that are needed via his Trainer Move

If you haven't gotten Lyra's Trainer Move MP Refresh grid tile, grab it and try to make sure you get at least 1 MP Refresh so you can max the team's Attack and Sp. Atk.

[void estuary]

I'm not good enough master :*(

[mellow linden]

Did you not use Lyra’s Trainer Move?

SS Red should have max Attack and Sp. Atk. by the time he Syncs

Wait

[trail smelt]

Yeah was about to ask

[mellow linden]

Why is Lance halfway to his 2nd Sync?

Are you only triple-queueing the 1st round?

[trail smelt]

SS Morty sets up sun, Lyra buffs offensively

[mellow linden]

You need to triple queue every round

[void estuary]

Wait do I not need to buff charizard at all?

Is lyra doing all that

Like charizard doesn't need to self buff?

[mellow linden]

Lyra and SS Morty will buff SS Red, yeah

[void estuary]

Omg

I been self buffin charzard

[mellow linden]

At most Red will only need to use his Dire Hit+ once

And that’s moreso if you can’t get enough move gauge for SS Morty to Sunny Day if SS Red uses Heat Wave or Blast Burn

Also make sure to get SS Red’s Haymaker and Solar Flare tiles from his Sync grid if you haven’t already

[trail smelt]

Aye that’s what a support usually does haha. Their buffs usually affect the entire team

[digital mauve]

Any suggestions on Bruno? I’m trying to run Kyogre and Swampert. Tried a few supports and getting rocked.

[mellow linden]

Tried Roxanne already?

Also, what round and who's Syncing?

[swift swan]

this should work easily. is Roxanne already used? you might need a speed buffer

[digital mauve]

Ended up getting it to work! Thanks.

[void estuary]

NOOOOOOO

[mellow linden]

1. Why is SS Red's Attack only at +3? Lyra + SS Morty should put it at +5 minimum, max Attack if you get a Trainer Move MP Refresh on Lyra.

2. Does SS Red have his Haymaker and Solar Flare tiles from his grid?

[void estuary]

1. I'm not sure 😞 rng I guess
2. yeah have both

[mellow linden]

It's not RNG. You should be using Lyra's Trainer Move twice once Sun is active

When Sun is up her Trainer Move gives +2 to Attack, Sp. Atk., and Speed

She only needs to use Dire Hit All once

Her 1st 3 turns should be Dire Hit All -> Sunny Side Up! -> Sunny Side Up!

[void estuary]

Omg I love you

I spent so many hours on this today all because of your guidance

[mellow linden]

Tbh this is pretty basic stuff. Is this your 1st time doing Master Mode at all?

[swift swan]

Yeah, buffing stats for your main damage dealer is crucial and you should do that before trying to deal damage

[mellow linden]

Triple queueing is also literally the bare minimum for succeeding in harder content

But hey, a win is a win, onto Blue now

Also, a big heads-up for Blue. If you're using a Fall Iris + Koga comp, make sure that "No Status Conditions" and "No Stat Reductions" are both turned off. You can swap the former for Defense/Sp. Def. 1 and the latter for Max HP 2

[void estuary]

It's my first time going above 5k 😦 I usually get stick around 4200-5

[mellow linden]

Ah, alright

[void estuary]

I didn't realize how much every buff matters

It's pretty fun gameplay lol :p

[mellow linden]

It's quite fun once you've got triple queueing down, yeah

[void estuary]

Thanks so much for getting me through it today omg

[mellow linden]

It's what this channel is for, no problem at all

[void estuary]

You taught me a lot of team comps I didn't know worked

I used to spend ash + red on 1 team :p

[mellow linden]

Well they can both be used on the same team for content that doesn't need multiple teams, but for stuff like Champion Stadium it can sometimes be better to split them up so you have more emergency backup options

If you've got 4 teams that can easily clear on-type then you could definitely use both of them on the same team for the 5th fight in CS

I highly recommend checking out #1010307000346878062 in case anything there would help you out some more

[void estuary]

You pretty much taught me all of this today except for garchomp team!!!

[mellow linden]

Hardly something unique to me, but glad I could assist nonetheless

[swift swan]

jumping from 5k to 10k is nice though, great job

[mellow linden]

Right, forgot to specifically say congrats

So, congrats!

[toxic cobalt]

Just did an Iris clear which managed on full aggressive presync parameters, but couldn't clear using the strength only presync parameters. Those defence and health stats really do make a difference.

[swift swan]

see this is why I pick full aggressive presync if the opponent two-shots me with powerful moves I can just reset. if my damage dealers can't do enough damage then they lack damage and I have to modify the params, so I give my opponents as little bulk as possible

[toxic cobalt]

I've been trying out the strength parameters recently since they're so highly argued for. They worked the last two weeks, but for Iris no dice.

[swift swan]

oof

[toxic cobalt]

Also it's really weird that three of the four free dragon strikers benefit from rain

[trail smelt]

I never liked full offenses

Give me strength all day every day

[toxic cobalt]

Well it just didn't work

[zealous karma]

Which Iris?

[swift swan]

1/5 Iris?

I saw Poce's 3/5 Iris showcase and her Hyper Beam damage doesn't look that impressive. should've given at least 300 sp atk to her

[zealous karma]

Bluecanine special attack energy

Why can year 1 we have lance with like 400 Spatk but the zone hyper beam unit has less SpTk than a support

[toxic cobalt]

Dragon

[zealous karma]

Nice

I don’t recall do you have Bugsycther

[toxic cobalt]

HHahahahhahahaa my first time trying Shauntal. Just burns herself to death.

[zealous karma]

He’s so perfect for her

[toxic cobalt]

Ofc

[mellow linden]

That's why you get Flameproof Lucky Skill

[zealous karma]

Did you use them together I can’t image you’d struggle with those 2 together

[mellow linden]

I eagerly await Shauntal grid to hopefully get innate Flameproof or something

[zealous karma]

She probably wants like lesswen burn 15 rather than flatout flameproof as she has the griddy

[toxic cobalt]

No I’m doing a thing

[zealous karma]

I see

[mellow linden]

She doesn't have Gritty afaik

[zealous karma]

What is that thing

[toxic cobalt]

I suppose I don’t have to burn myself but I wanted to see how it works

[zealous karma]

Well InTys should give her griddy 9

And lessers burn 15

Wait not InTys wrong game

Uhhh what’s the developers of this game again

[mellow linden]

DeNA

[zealous karma]

Thank you lel

[toxic cobalt]

Sleep stuff with weak teams so I had iris fully self buff

[zealous karma]

The horro

[toxic cobalt]

It took some tweaking but it works!

[zealous karma]

So you didn’t allow yourself like BP Clemont

[mellow linden]

Oh hey, Serebii accidentally put Ramos' grid on Shauntal's page and not on Ramos'

[zealous karma]

Wdym my favorite sync pair is SCShauntal and Victrebell

[toxic cobalt]

I…forgot Ramos had a grid

[swift swan]

tried offtype Bluecanine last week, under sun he was still satisfying

[toxic cobalt]

Did I use his grid?

[swift swan]

but mine's EX

[toxic cobalt]

I don’t even know what Bp Clemont does

[zealous karma]

You have the luxury of Ex mine isn’t I tried to off type and didn’t go well

BPcoemont raises defenses and accuracy but also has screech

[toxic cobalt]

Screech is always appreciated

Dammit I need the speed

Shauntal why

[zealous karma]

BPsurge' kit feels kinda dated to me

And he’s not thay old

If only he had peprally

I swear he also dies extremely easily

I don’t know if his Hp is to low

Or his SpDef is very low but wow he just dies

I had to give mine healthy healing 🐴

[swift swan]

same, BP Surge is a nice buffer but not a good enough tank for me

[toxic cobalt]

He is not a tank and he has nothing on grid

[swift swan]

I think he has synchro healing

the only good tile he has lmao

[toxic cobalt]

But that’s garbage if you can’t tank

[swift swan]

Can't believe Shauntal and Agatha don't have grids yet. feels like a huge waste

agatha especially

[toxic cobalt]

I forgot he was from the era when everyone had sync heal

[toxic cobalt]

Yeah my Shauntal Agatha Surgechu team is almost essentially gridless

[zealous karma]

Makes me angry

Where is her grid

Why is she so fast why does she get 3 stat buffs from mega

[toxic cobalt]

I tried nuking with Agatha once. I think it vaguely worked but I can’t remember

[swift swan]

that sp attack and speed.... that wasted potential...

I tried nuking with Agatha against Azelf the whole time I was using her to sleeplock but then my main damage dealer died before the last hit so I synced with her. azelf has shit defenses on last bar so it didn't matter much

[toxic cobalt]

If she gets a grid she will be able to do it no problem

Oh lol I forgot max upgrade theme skilljust does all of them

What a nod

[zealous karma]

We have like 3 gengar pairs not including mc and 3 pikas so clearly gengar is seen as an equal to pukachu

[dapper coyote]

Can koga beat blue or should i save ash/pika for him?

[toxic cobalt]

Koga can but also why not save in case

[zealous karma]

Koga at 3/5 shoukd freely do it

[dapper coyote]

Nah he's 1/5🙃

[swift swan]

do you have spare candies for him?

you can also stall or offtype

[dapper coyote]

Nope no candies

Any other poison option?

[swift swan]

got allister?