#Champion Stadium
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Anyone want to Throw me some challenge run ideas I’m having a lot of fun playing rn
Welp got my Kanto medal done. Will start trying MM during work breaks 😅
Any shot of 2k against Blue with this team?
Skeptical given no EX or sync grids. Just trying to figure out before I invest
Alternative option.
You could run SCHilda alongside Olivia
I was figuring SC Hilda with the support Defense Lowering would help with damage and gauges
I think I’m out of EX supports unfortunately
So a little worried about having enough damage to punch through.
Hmm
Man I haven't looked at SC Hilda for awhile. A four bar aoe.
Busted.
Replace Kukui with a spdef buffer I reckon. He's not needed.
Okay I’ll give that a try. Can use like Skyla or something.
spin a wheel with all 9 regions on it (Pasio included) and whichever region it lands on, you have to use a unit from that region (MC is included on Pasio)
Beat Blue with supports only
In fact beat Blue with these supports only please 
I know some of those supports can be strikers... but not sure if offtype 
I’ll do both of these thanks!
have fun 
Also what is November 9th is that your birthday cause if so it’s mine as well
Oh wow rare ti find something with your own birthday lel 🦑
Gladion really feels like an worthy investment
I think that's the second time I used him for 10k csmm
He’s super useful really early on
I sadly didn’t get him until like johtrio banners and I started replaying during ssleok banner
I have a fav for every type rn
I used my schilda with no support ex, just regirock and cobalion and it works...could work much easier if I didn't use wrong grid 
Already 144/150 him...he is useful for old cs like this kanto...iirc last time i used him for sinnoh or hoenn cs, he doesn't work well much
But probably with the new type rebuff thing, he will work much better in the future like for fire weak and pair him with gordie for fire type rebuff
Might be good if we get more rebuff later down the line as he can be every type
Last week my mono rock team was Kukui/Hildiancie/MReg and it beat Blue much easier than this week’s Eggtops/Olivia/Roxanne
I have fun with him both in MM and LG
another goated run ruined by RNGesus
SC Rosa and SS Erika don't want to be paired together do they? It'd be one or the other as damage dealer correct?
Does SC Rosa want sun? If so you can run SS Erika as the sun setter and secondary damage dealer, speed allowing.
Thought so. Rosa doesn't want sun.
Can the additional effects round parameter affect the additional effects from grid nodes?
I wanna try Cold Snap Glaciate on Ghetsis
Well damn, was hoping I can freeze hax Agatha
Noice SS leaf, SS Erika and sc Jasmine got it done
I honestly feel I may have to off type most the rest of this week though.
Also likely I am just purely underestimating my units and effectiveness 😂
I was bored so i made teams for next week
Are they good?
(in Koga team think of Iris as FIris)
Ghetsis for ice and then Hop and Slowgaleo for Steel
LMFAO, Agatha just killed herself with her own TM
Actually that simple? Man I'm out here thinking mine wouldn't be enough 😂
Pretty simple!
I feel like a goof haha
Hop and Solgaleo is even a bit overkill 
I did mono steel with Jasmine, Hop and Gloria
Ahh well mine have no grid so that'll be the challenge part 
Ungridded Hop? 
Ungridded hop and Ghetsus 
Actually instead of Ghetsis I might give holiday Leon a run
Ghetsus
Ungridded Ghetsis is kinda shit ngl
Haven't had a need for him to be Gridded till now 😅
When will we ever get DD Articuno?
I'm gonna try to monotype next week
But only good ghost-type DD is Morty
Agatha has extra bulk this week CS right? was wondering why Candice wasn't able to nuke without the SEUN
All I know is she hits far too hard
Agatha does have like 23k base hp
Probably to account for her post sync tm
23k base HP in Kanto CS? gasp
My poor man bruno got wiped this week
meanwhile in Hoenn 23k HP feels easy among the shitload of stages with 29k HP
He lost 3/4 of his health and both his teamates to a pre sync AEROBLAST
Bruno always gets rekt
Too lazy to do 2k this time
Yes ended up using the other Candice
There is a way for gladion to go from below average to arguably busted, with it. If he gets a power boost that allows him to reduce enemy type rebuff when he transforms, that could put him on the map. For this week, however, he was my flying carry, because I dislike how zinnia plays and I felt like the tech nuke made the fight much easier to navigate, compared to blue
Ah. Candice Abom did almost ohko. Just needed one hammer from Hala after that
How can I beat Bruno? He just one hit kill me after one sync attack.
Not letting him sync
kill him before he gets to sync 
Or by lowering his attack and increasing your defense
Impervious says hi
buffing your defense + Reflect is probably your best shot if you can't presync
and like bring tons of healers
Oh yeah, forgot about that
But yeah, increase your team's defense against Bruno since he's mainly physical
Impervious this week
Oh Nov has already gotten that
Speed.
She needs speed.
Arcanine, Swanna, Rachel, or egg Ekans/Sandshrew/Horsea I think
My Bruno team was relatively accessible
Skyla and swanna, Gio and Persian, then gladion
Gladion was 3/5 EX with super powered, but there are plenty of better flying pairs than him, right?
So defense and a mildly competent damage dealer should be enough for him. It was 2k presync
I got Bruno and Lance done so I’m stuck on Lorelei and Agatha rn, trying to save Ash for Blue since he can just nuke that stage
So, for Lorelei, I did round 1 with SS Erika, SS lyra and Hop, who was there just to tank until I finished setting up, given lyra was going to do some heavy numbers, while permanent sun made things easy for Erika. For round 3 I don't know what you could use
I mean I don’t have Lyra
Agatha had ghetsis, Roxanne and SS blue, but SS blue was there just to help max crit and SSA Cynthia can easily replace him
I’ll try restart then and use some sort of setup with Erika for Lorelei I guess
He’s only 1/5 is that good enough for anything?
For like type neutral obv know he’s good
Ssteven is a monster
Is yours EX?
That's really all he'll ever need
1/5 ash is already disgustingly strong
And I believe ssteven to be similar
I can ex him
Yeah, he likely has the best EX value among damage dealers in the game
Because him, being a tech, gets 1,5x damage on his sync move, but deoxys attack gives his nuke striker EX
So he has both
He really should be enough
Oh
what grid for Ghetsis?
I picked overpower, pecking order, noble roar double drop and all 4 sync nodes
I spammed noble roar pre-first sync while his allies buffed him
Then past sync I spam glaciate
so post sync conditions then
I think so, don't remember if I flipped parameters around for him
Ι used Sycamore/Ghetsis/crit buffer. Spam noble roar until -6, then Glaciate. Sycamore can tank more than enough.
yeah used Cynthia Ghetsis and Roxanne
Garchomp?
SSACynthia. Ok.
Ι did Blue with Volkner/SSTRedEx/Ash and more chance to proc secondary effects.
surge volkner and ash swept
3/5 150 ex Ash is a bit overkill
with max electric gear lol
Who would be good to pair with Ghestsis round 4 Agatha with Cold Snap grid?
well I just did it so I used Roxanne and SSA Cynthia
no reason to limit to Cold Snap
Skipped Cynthia
you just need a tank in her slot mostly
Well round 4 is extra effects so I thought more freeze
that's buffing the sp def of the team
The only ones I can think of are Salamance and Starmie
There are others for sure
Sycamore
Man blue pidge or giving me problems. Running 1/5 SCHilda, Elio/Primarina, and Skyla Swanna.
Does Elio raise SpDef?
Yeah he does, so you should be fine
Are they all gridded?
Considering attempting a Master Mode run for this Stadium since I’m in dire need of materials. Any good suggestions for point set-ups for this rotation? I’m not attempting to go all in, probably just to 4.2k to get the Spirits.
Quick question
Shoot
Also technically you should be doing MM every time you are able
Is it good to sync with my support and then sync with my main damage dealer if i use the post sync parameters or im i just wasting a sync
Skyla grided. Elio is not. working on Hilda though 1/5 doesn’t seem to add much.
Im asking this because im doing 2vs3 + offtype this week
Because i feel like it lol
Like I know I should have, I was just getting back into the groove of the game for a bit so I kinda left it alone when I got back to it after my hiatus 
Struggling here lugia is so frail
Pls
Your Ethan doesn’t wipe with sync do you have a different supoort thay you could use instead of sonia here?
Technically yes but it can depend like Mega Tax is a thing
Generally it’s good to use your Support Sync first because it doubles the Sync Boost, if EX’d
Why no Third?
Fair
Should be fine honestly
I did it with SC Hilda 1/5-Misty 2/5-Hilbert 2/5; no EXs
Do we know what the CSMM will be for next week? Looking to start prepping teams.
the types for next week are in the pins :)
specifically, week 112 (Oct 17 - Oct 23) is next week's types
don't be afraid to reach out here if you need help building any of those teams! 
Got bored so doing some advance team building for next week, hopefully I could get Cyrus boost before the refresh hits
Or you can wait and do the MM on a later date after the refresh.
Looks good, but just remember Fighting-weak Lorelei is the one with a shit ton of evasion. Wally's Focus Blast gonna be looking more like Focus Miss
Lillie support it is then
How much hp does agatha have?
23k base
Haven’t been doing MM, now got motivation to do so and Ash is crazy
Used him against Lorelei
Who’s the hardest in this Stadium?
This week? Probably Bruno
I'd say Agatha if you fight her on the wrong round 
Round 2 okay?
Phys damage reduction? Sure, it'll just make it hard to quadqueue
Why is it always the ghost types that are unnecessarily bulky lol
I’m thinking of post sync + using Renegade Cynthia against her
Cynthia + PoltLillie and some filler
No
Now done
It wasn’t as scary as I thought 
Morty is my new fav ghost now
Now plan is:
- Zerena for Lance
- ssSteven for Bruno
Maybe Red for Blue
zerena is auto win id assume
Zerena is auto win against any non wise entry stage
Who has wise entry?
Nobody this week
Deoxys good plan for Bruno?
Sure
is my lorelei team alright? i heard she has ton of evasion 
Prepared for next week
This should presync just fine
Nope
Now I wish they expand it somehow
With rewards
I did reset thinking something would show after beating champion
I'm fine with 10k being the limit. I just wish I could do MM more than once a week and still get the rewards 
Even if it's something like, the 1st time you use multi attack
Not even 5/5
zamn
Best poison DPS so far should be SS Giovanni
Allister i guess is one of the better poison types
Koga is a good pick with good enough teammates
Koga has a nice nuke. not so much with DPS though
Poison weak stages are usually more susceptible to poison stall too. Keep it in mind.
Not this one tho.
Any suggestions for round 4 Agatha? Used Hala SS Blue and Bugsy Scyther and didn’t seem to get much of anywhere
Everyone 3/5 or above
feels like it should destroy her
Well I’m very bad at quadqueing and I sync with Blue first
How close do you get?
You can just kill her by making her 25% HP and below after she syncs
So post sync parameters?
Maybe 20% and she wipes my team with sync
Something feels wrong there
?
And does he have SEUN?
Yes, 2 from himself and 1 from Bugsy TM
Yes
I was running standard build, not the one with that on his TM
I was running pre sync parameters but she wipes my team with her sync so should I try post sync parameters?
That was actually referring to @toxic cobalt
I see. But also I wasn’t running the SE Up build because I’m using SDE 2 on my build
It's very funny how Agatha kills herself with her own TM after she syncs 
With post sync parameters Hala still died with +4 defense
In terms of strikers or supports?
Against Agatha? If so, makes sense because Agatha's Sync is special
So you'd need Sp. Def.
She's such a ghost specialist, she wants her Pokemon to be doubleghost
What tank provides Blue’s survivability and up Sp. Def?
I can’t use a buffer as the second because then I would lose the defense debuff and move gauge acceleration
SS Blue gives gauge acceleration (can re-grid to remove Pep Rally if you don't want the Speed buffs) and while slow can buff Sp. Def. via Force Field. What team are you running, though?
For Agatha CS and with Hala as your DPS, I think you want a tank that provides SPDef and Crit. The two that come to mind are Melony or SC Jasmin. If you go with either of those, you can max out Hala and have an open slot for speed/debuffs or more realistically heals.
If all else fails there's always just running a Ghetsis team
Blue for me
lmaooo I forgot about Sync Cure Blue
Who would I run with him?
No Anni N
I wanted to do a Cold Snap build with Pryce but that seems too gimmicky
Just use Noble Roar to debuff and have someone to buff his stats for him
He needs Sp Atk and crit?
Yes
Ideally someone to help with gauge as well because Glaciate is a 4-bar move
Maybe SS Blue and Sabrina with him?
Could do that, could save SS Blue for elsewhere and try Skyla instead
I personally have run SS Elesa + Ghetsis + Skyla a good amount of times
I don’t need SS Blue, I’m on round 4 and I’m using Hilbert/Acerola/EX Olivia on the champ
Fair enough. I'd still recommend keeping Skyla in mind in case you need more healing, she's really good
I actually already used Skyla vs Bruno as well
Ah
Kyruem sync hit 3k? I think my game is broken, I’ll try again
Is Ghetsis gridded, did the Sync crit, and did you debuff with Noble Roar?
Yes, yes, and yes
Should be doing quite a bit more than that, then
Dire hit, x def, noble roar
Dire hit, x def, noble roar,
Sixth sense, to the top, noble roar
Sync
Sync work with speed is it gridded for pecking order?
Pecking and overpower
No, presync
then it should hit hard
Except I took Atk +3 so I could take off no stat reduction
anyway Ghetsis works better post sync its about stalling more
Try EX Support Sync 1st so Ghetsis can be at +6 Sp. Atk. by the time he Syncs
you would probably want to use Abomasnow for a quick win and sync nuke
I’ve had zero luck with that sync
It’s never worked for me
I’m almost ready to try blizzard Lusamine
With Abomasnow?
Yes
you want Hail up just before you sync for guaranteed crit
And I do, and I get +6 speed
Trainer Move Super Preparation?
It’s an inertia Nuke
Fair Enough
And here I was, planning to poison stall and have am easy time for once. Need to work on an off-type team base on the field parameters.
Only 3 from TM
Not fully buffing your offenses and expecting to do absurd damage is a recipe for disaster
And she deals all these damage with only one sync tile. Hidden gem.
Ye very high damage
heres my Stadium thread took a while to find in this new discord forum https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1026479104259801158
Does reflect and such work on Sync moves?
I can’t send video, too large file size
I can't remember but want to say no
have to upload it on youtube or something
So, is it useless to run crit shield against next week's Bruno?
crit shield?
Yea
Not together. Only the crit shield
Don't think he buffs crit anyway
It's after sync. No need to alarm.
I will watch when better quality is available
I uploaded from my phone. I don’t even know how to up the quality on videos.
Okay, guess I’ll just offtype while I wait.
You didn't queue up moves on when using Kyurem sync and did extra move on Alakazam was it on purpose?
also I saw 8600 sync damage which is good
I have. Should i show you my supports ?
Because i want to try and 2v2 this week
Yeah on purpose
It wasn’t even half
On the champ Olivia drilled pidgeot for over 75% of his health with her sync
Maybe falkner I instead of sonia extra master passive buff plus flinch also activates theme skills and buffs special attack and crit
it's because you need to also lower their speed to -6 for full sync damage
second sync would have done a lot more if crit
I guess I have to pull for ice Leon when he comes back around
my falkner is 1/5 non exed
Ghetsis, Candice, and Hala are more than sufficient for Ice weak content
I was actually planning on exing him this week
Not really. If you build and learn how to use Candice, Ghetsis and BPCandice, you're good.
But idk if its worth at 1/5
Not really
True, BP Candice exists as well
I want to play for fun.
Trying the same fight 15 times for perfect RNG isn’t fun.
Doesn't need much if any RNG beyond an MP Refresh at the start
Ιf you want fun, you don't need to try more than 1.5k per fight. 10k is just for self challenge.
The team you used doesn't need RNG just needs to survive sync and everything dies
Giving the champion stadium another go from a better place resource wise. What would be a good team to use against the elite 4 and Blue. Here's everyone I have. Most are ungridded but I have the ability to grid them. The free legends are availible too, I just haven't unlocked some
You still haven't obtained Cyrus's EX yet?
@stoic vine
Are you attempting Master Mode, or just beating hard mode still?
Hard mode still
Have you completed Kanto CS before, or not? (Just wondering if you have any medal progress)
@stoic vine
At work, trying to outline but it's hard reading walls of units unorganized ☠️
Grass:
Dmg - Tsareena
Crit buff - Dusknoir
Healer - Hariyama
Flying:
Dmg - Pidgeot
Buff and sync accel - Rotom
Tank and Debuff - Masquerain
Ice:
Dmg - Kyurem
Buff and heal - Alakazam
(maybe def or speed buff)
Steel:
Tank - Zamazenta
Dmg - Redzard
Buff speed and satk - Probopass
Rock:
Offtype dmg - Ashchu
Tank - Xerneas
(ground or dark filler for medal)
Still need:
ground/dark, normal, water, poison, dragon
Next week weaknesses:
water, fighting, poison, ghost, dragon. Your ghost and fighting option are weak and might be off-typed. (Mewtwo is a good ghost type, and Silvally might work for fighting)
I have no medal progress and sorry I'll reorganize them if you need @lunar meadow
Yes
Which kinds of teammates go well with Koga? I really wanna try always doing 10k CSmm on type, from now on, but he's my only poison pair besides gladion
Which also brings the question as to which one of the two is better
koga nukes harder though gladion has higher dps
whichever you prefer for supports he like those who can buff special attack and crit
When Koga gets his EX, you won't have to ask that question 😉
Koga sync nuke is really good for Non-EX
and someone who can buff evasion or poison
The only consistent evasion buffer I can think of is misty
there is alo ny lilie if you have her
Spa and crit has Sabrina and SS Kris for me
I started playing too late to have ny lillie
Was during the SS Kris banner, too
do you have ss leaf by any chance?
BP Janine and Crobat exists to support Koga and Crobat.
oh alright then ss kris/sabrina and misty is a good team for koga
She is likely my actual fave between the 3, but I went meta and picked the least favourite in blastoise
I still feel tempted to go for SS red
@stoic vine
I kept editing this one message... This is an outline to help you get started and try to diversify types to work on the medal, for a 2 week unlock.
Can this team beat agatha
Trying to 2vs2
Candice have the ex unlocked BUT i dont have enough champion spirits
I tried.
Any idea why the damage are not showing
With amazing freeze rng magbe
💀
HoliLeon can duo ice if you have him hala Ex can too
My hala is 2/5
Rip
I guess no 2v2 for this one
yeah...if you don't have holiday leon...prob not happening unless you wanna off-type for a 2v3
non EX candice needs some help
I don't see EX
a 2v3 stall???
Good Stall Team probably
Unfortunately no Janine or Debuffer
But he might be able to out heal
Did not manage to take the W
I think you should see success.
Your grass team is definitely the riskiest, with only 1/5 Tsareena. The other 4 teams I have confidence in
But for hard mode, it should be ok
I've got to grid them and get more level items but other than that they're set
Don't worry about move levels beyond the Legendary Event ones I recommended and you'd been missing (Xerneas and Kyurem).
I accounted for the gacha unit's move levels
What's a good 2v3 team for ss steven
Units i already used
Ss lyra and Aaron
Ss ethan and Falkner
Is Steven tanking or nuking
Nuke
Lance is done, onto the next
Could bring Bianca
Glad you go Ethan finished
Currently the flying team above isn't working
Replace Viola with an ex support
^
Can do!
Dies quicly and if i use the attack form the gauge is painfully slow
Sycamore and Mespirit on round 1
Im round 4.
flinch galore then?
Hmm I can't see to get used to Ghetsis and how to utilise him best
Noble roar to -6 att/spa. Glaciate to drop speed. Use other units to buff him. Also needs 2 support with lots of speed. His grid helps with damage the lower you opponents stats are.
And he has multipliers from lowered offensive stats too
Yeah I been trying that. Have had SS morty and then alternating other supports to boost sp atk for glaciate.
Just haven't found the right combination
I'll have to double check with grid set up I've got activate actually
How is the run going?
Is a CSMM 10k solo with Hop possible?
Asking generally, I'm not so sure it's very possible this week, but wondering if there's anyone who knows / another week where it is
I'm pretty sure I've seen Hop solo Grimsley at 2k
steel-weak
but the youtube video title wasn't in english so I'm not sure if I can find it again
Had to take a break. Don't really have any EX Supports or know which one to EX
@lunar meadow
But I did beat Lance and Agatha. Didn't try Lorelei yet and Bruno just kept destroying my team
Bruno might be easier to bring Swanna/Granbull to.
Bruno is almost exclusively physical attacks, so using "charm" to lower his attack and a defense boost to raise your defense can work
Lorelai with only Tsareena as your grass type damage was the one I was most worried about
same!
i found bruno the easiest
lorelei and blue the hardest
Wild
I don’t think any of them were hard this week, at least for me in particular
I Ontyped Lorelei and Blue and had no issues
What Support EX do you have access to?
Anyone know how a good 2v3 poison stall
BP Janine and SS Leaf?
Are there any hard stages in next week's CSMM
It's Kanto. Nothing is hard. Just trial and error if you feel lost. With that said,
Champion has sync status effect heal.
Agatha might be tricky since no good f2p ghost types.
Lorelei has evasion shenanigans.
How rude.
That used to be how I did him 1500 every week lol
Hopefully Dolan gets a team working
This week I used SkylaEx/Nate/SCLillie for Bruno. If Nate crits with sync, everything is ok.
Ok so i did all 2v2 until agatha and blue (wanted to overkill blue)
@lunar meadow all the supports I could possibly EX. Leaning towards Dawn for the Defense All
If you have a favorite they take priority, but honestly I’d recommend Kiawe as an option if you use him with enough frequency
3/5 Kiawe’s pretty darn good
I was also thinking about him but I use Dawn quite a bit. Plus she'd be good for soaking up damage
Dawn is a great tank, yeah
Meganium, Torterra, and Rotom are not bad choices.
Samurott is also good but he wants his 3/5 before he gets used much.
Specifically for right now against Bruno, if you need def boosts to survive his sync and the ex support buff, dawn is still ok at 1/5
I use Alolan Marowak a lot as well. One of my favorite offensive supports, even though his offensive buffing isn't super strong.
Great for BV
I think Rotom is currently already in the list to use for that fight. I'm gonna experiment around using Alolan Marowak before I decide. I haven't really used him all that much
Alolan Marowak is best used with physically offensive allies that might need help with speed buffs, but buff their own attack to +4 easily
Kiawe at 3/5 basically trades potency for versatility. He isn’t the fastest or most potent at what he does, but he does a lot of stuff
Corrected “efficiency” to “versatility” there because that’s what I intended to say
Heals, tops off crit or satk buffs, speed and move gauge.
He's missing defensive buffs, but has great bulk for not having buffs
At 3/5 he has Wise Entry too
He shouldn't be doing all the buffing, though
He's good at topping off an ally that can do +2 to their stat twice, then he gets them to +6
Hey, does anyone have any general tips or advice for master mode? It would be appreciated! I just unlocked it this week and I don't really know what I'm doing. Not sure which modifiers to pick
(I hope this is the right place to ask)
There’s some recommended parameters in the pins. Generally if you’re new to Master Mode it’s recommended to go for 850 points per stage (4250 total) since that’ll get you all the most important rewards
As cobalt said, it's smart to work towards 4200 as your first goal and not get overwhelmed by trying to shoot for the full 10k.
When picking parameters, the pins of this channel has good outlines. Basically there are three strategies:
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Pre-sync - Use something powerful and kill the enemy before they use a sync move. Typically requires a strong striker with super effective damage. For this, you give the opponent maximum offense boosts because you plan to kill them before it matters.
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Toxic Stall - You give the enemy maximum health and defense, and then win just by outlasting them against "badly poison" status. Badly Poison damage stacks up over time, but it's recommended to also Debuff the enemies using something like Ariados or EggNidoqueen and the move "venom drench".
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Balanced - With this, you give the enemy a lot of +strength modifiers. The enemy will typically get one sync move off, but you should probably win before their second. This is the best strategy if you don't have a "super effective" damage dealer.
Do NOT give the enemy "immune to crit", unless doing toxic stall.
Also, pay attention to the order in which you do the fights. There's a fight modifier based on what order you do the fights in, so plan ahead of time to do what's best for your teams.
Giovanni never failed me with Kanto ghost stages 
Buffs its own accuracy what’s not to like?
Better then trying to Korrina it. Now that’s a painful miss.
wait how does +6 accuracy go up against +6 evasiveness? normal effect?
Korrina + maylene seems fine right?
Bruno is down
only ones left are Lorelei and Blue
Yeah the grass team didn't do well at all
Can't even get lapras to half 😅
What is the team?
Do you have SS Erika?
I was able to do it, I didn't sync with Dusknoir, and changed my grids to 1/5 grids for mallow and dusknoir
Mine are all level 140, but it's definitely gotta be doable at 120
Just fill up the 1/5 grid?
For who?
Can someone suggest who to use in CS?
Hard or master mode?
Hard
So many units not leveled
I didn't know who to level up😅
I was just using ash for everything
And I didn't wanna waste resources on a unit that wouldn't be useful later on
Ghetsis and Hop are super helpful this week
If you can give Brendan dauntless lucky skill he will also be helpful
Then flying and rock you can off type, one with Ash another with Cyrus
Get your hop to 5/5, it's free
I can't find the rest of your legendary adventures units too
Yeah didn't do them🙃
Where are ghetsis, zinnia, giovanni, silver, and solgaleo
Welp try to get those first at least
Ehe😅
Unfortunately you missed Zinnia's mega. She'd clear flying stages easily
They're all good?
It was an event?
They’re all amazing F2P pairs
All of them?
So I should level up them all to 120 then?
All of them.
CS requires you to have at least 5 invested teams (or at the very least, 5 units that can carry). Kanto hard mode is probably the easiest CS experience you can get (aside from the annoying chore of having to carry filler types)
Ohh I see
Yes, just like the 2 Cyrus events going on rn. Get that too, Cyrus EX and powerboost helps you a long way
Luckily this week a lot of the types align with the legendary pairs
Hopefully your Cyrus is 20/20
Yeah I'm doing thay
Yes
And what about the supports that I have. Anyone to level up?
I don't know I'm doing wrong but my supports don't tank well
In tough fights
Skyla Misty Hop Sycamore Liza
And Roxanne (:
Probably just levels. Get them to at least 120
Also would be nice if you could give some of them Vigilance lucky skill from 
They don't need sync grids?
How do we get lucky skills?
They benefit from sync grids but for hard mode they don’t need them
Oh okay
Ghetsis for ice-weak
Brendan for grass-weak (can throw Sycamore to tank and horn leech)
Hop and solgaleo for steel-weak
Cyrus and Ash offtype for flying and rock, whichever one works
Another offtype option would be SS Red and Silver if you grab him
Or alternatively, put Silver in the grass team and keep syncing with him to get sun up and spam solar beam

I almost never use solgaleo myself but it's a nice f2p steel option
Just bring a speed support
The Slowgaleo bad meme has had a really bad impact on new players
Slowgaleo needs to get a grid expansion that's not event-gated so more new players will use it 
😅
Ahh
Also Solgaleo is really good for LG! Really good
What's LG
#1009407977377247313 brief explanation here
Oh🥲
Welp
That's a nice offtype option. But remember Sycamore can be a grass damage dealer if you need him to be 
Well yeah, I advocate for Brendan/Sycamore/some potion user maybe idk
Refuse to be Sycamore soloed this week

Oh and are leaf/evee, falkner good?
Decent
Phantom force is hard to use though
So we recommend sticking to shadow ball for his DPS
But his sync is physical so he requires both physical and special attack stats buffed
Ohh
Or learn how to use 2 turn moves.
I keep on losing to Bruno for 2k... tried toxic stalling but to no avail
Since you can't lower his machamps attack it does way too much damage
Any strategies I should be attempting that I might have forgotten?
Falkner is a support, he helps others
Beating him to death with your most powerful unit?
Yeah so who could I pair him with
Literally any striker
He buffs special attack and attack and crit so he can go with any damage dealer
Blue with pidgeot?
Sure
Okay
For CS i mean
2 turn moves mess up your quadqueue. You have to learn how to counter that.
Ohh
it messes your quadqueue so unless you get to deny an opponent with your 2-turn move, or have someone with sync countdown acceleration (both are hard to come by for new players), I wouldn't recommend
I ran Phantom Force Morty alongside Shadow Force SSR Cynthia against Ghost-weak Lucian. He had Wise Entry x2 so I didn't click on their Shadow Ball at all. I brought Redlax but even he couldn't fix my messy countdown. Lucian got to sync, killed all 3, and I only won because Morty had Last Word
I used the presync params for Bruno
Damn okay
What do you think about these teams? And who to use in the empty slots?
Don't mind the levels🙃
Also I got may/mudkip don't know if she's usable anywhere
Evolve Mudkip to Swampert and you'll have yourself a pretty powerful DPS unit
BTW, is this hard mode or master?
She's dps? I thought she's tech
Hard
Last words is a strategy too. Aim for that.
Is it different for master?
Totally.
I'll probably run Giovanni for shadow and Alister for poison.
Sycamore/Alister/Koga. That's the team. Sycamore as the tank, Alister provides poison and Koga nukes with sync.
Bud mudkip is so cute
Hey these teams look good! The slots you can just put in types you're missing
Is hop a damage dealer?
If you want him to be
Hmm
I used him for damage this week, but you're fine going Sol with Hop as secondary
The free legends should be some of your first grids
Do I have time with lugia tho
Isn't he the strongest flying type?
Are you getting two syncs in before they sync?
Also who is the rest of the team?
Only 1 sync
You should be getting two in, especially as Lugia has propulsion
Propulsion is base.
Don't see how he gets crit with this team?
His tm can reduce
Anyway, Roxanne great for Ethan. Full thumbs up. Kris though, only gets to +2 crit.
You could replace her with Falkner
That really depends on the rest of the team. She is powerful due to her spatk buffs, but in this current composition you lack something more important than that.
And unless she's 2/5 she doesn't have mpr
Well I guess, if you're syncing with her
Say you do that then. I'm a bit confused as to how you aren't winning.
Can you screenshot the situation before the enemy sync?
Maybe I try presync later
Shouldn't lugia kill Bruno before he gets to sync?
He should indeed. So the question we face is why he isn't.
Lugia can definitely presync especially if you stack the SMUN buffs
1 TM from Lugia and 2 from SS Kris (under rain) is already 5 SMUN stacks, already good enough to bring Bruno down to half HP if not more, if you use presync
I got so lucky and my brine finished him off
Lol I was just recording too
I don't even know how Lugia died there
I used Lugia this week too, paired with EX SS Blue. Killed Bruno even before my 2nd sync
The true spirit of my week 1 runs 
@mellow linden @lunar meadow thanks very much for the info, it'll be very helpful! I'll make sure to check out the parameters in the pins too. I'll share how it goes!
Best of luck!
I already beat lorelei for 1650 points, but the stage bonus (infinite terrain) + some op units (ss leaf, ss lyra, and rosa iirc) made it easy
I'm onto bruno next, I have ss ethan but I can't seem to beat him before second sync. Probably need to adust my modifiers
Apparently he has "impervious" this week, so you cannot lower his attack.
Buffing your own defense is the next option. Swanna should pair well with Lugia for that
Oh yeah, the team I was working with was ss ethan, skyla, and lyra, but I still seemed to die too quick/not do damage fast enough
You should also have Winona for the rain multipliers unless he isn't 2 or 3/5
Personally, I never do pre-sync.
I find the +str parameters and surviving one enemy sync much easier.
But also... Support supremacy 😅. I like defensive and healing supports
he's only 1/5 :/
Well too bad
Then I guess you need someone to boost his Sp. Atk. for him
Skyla, SS Ethan and a Sp. Atk. buffer
that's what lyra was for, to get him up to 6 after his self sp atk buffs, but it's not terribly efficient I suppose
Lyra needs sun
I think you'd be fine swapping from pre-sync to +str params, with that team
Personally I always do presync after I discovered the adrenaline rush that it gives 
Managed to brute force lance with silver, ss morty, and sabrina, but now agatha's kicking my ass
Currently trying ghetsis, fall caitlin, and torchic, but I think I have to switch it up
what do you have for SpA and crit buffs (not necessarily both at the same time)
Nope
I beat it though, I shifted gears to ss red, fall caitlin, and blaine
Took a few tries but not too bad
Awesome!
Getting a lot of points for your first attempt it seems. Shooting way past the 4200 recommendation 😉
And down goes blue!
Yeah I'm happy with what I managed to get!
Overall it wasn't too bad, although I do feel like I just scraped by, and was mostly carried by some busted units
That's an amazing first attempt!
And as you keep going you will get more EX units, and it becomes much easier
Yeah I'm rich with tickets lol
I actually have quite the hoard of 5* powerups that I've been too careful to use haha
Just be aware that Sinnoh and Hoenn have harder CS than the rest.
Kanto/Johto/Unova are good ones to learn the mode on, haha
Sinnoh and Hoenn give the enemies more passives, and more weather/terrain effects you have to watch out for
Good to know
Where alola
Like... Challenge wise?
Slightly harder than Kanto/Johto.
Definitely below sinnoh/hoenn
Hey is Candace or Pryce better to use with ghetsis for CS?
Kanto/Johto/Unova/Alola helps you with learning the basics for MM, but Sinnoh and Hoenn is where the developers really push you to actually build teams with strategies.
Both work, I find Candice more consistent
Be aware they need grids though
On hard mode I’d just use Ghetsis
Kyurem and Dewgong are awful on gauge management, but if you can get them buffed and support the gauge they are a strong damage combo.
I don't think abomasnow brings anything that helps Kyurem.
I'd run Kyurem with a support to buff Kyurem, and not bother dual damage on the team.
nice job!
I'd say:
Kanto and Johto are the basics
Unova and Alola are intermediate level
Sinnoh and Hoenn suddenly had a great difficulty spike
After doing a bit of math I think I'd be able to grab the power up by the next 2 resets 
Can't wait to see how he'll perform in 2k tho this being kanto it'll probably be an easy wipeout 
thanks!
Just use Ghetsis and a speed buffer
I only know of sycamore
And ss blue ig
Wait I need that speed buffer or a move gauge buffer?
Either one would probably work, but since “Speed buffer” was specified I listed some that I knew
Ahh okay
Move gauge bad, speed good
move gauge acceleration is temporary. speed buffs is forever
until you get debuffed of course
Next week is going to probably be Offtype for me. Don’t have a strong Poison DPS nor Ghost DPS nor Dragon DPS.
Actually I can probably try to do Dragon DPS with Cyrus and maybe get Allister good enough to do Ghost or Poison DPS?
? Next week is probably the most f2p friendly week ever
Cyrus works perfectly fine for dragon
Giovanni never fails me for Ghost
Poison is a free stall clear
you can stall almost any type weakness stage but especially poison
they have lower poison resistance
Pog
hell I freaking stalled electric-weak aaron at 2k and that dude had a massive HP pool
Okay then I can Stall Blue and do Cyrus for Dragon weak
something to note though: blue has sync cure. so he clears status after every sync
this means you need someone to reapply poison again after he syncs
so your poison bot shouldn't die early
Yeah I have BP Erika

It’s like Leaf-BP Erika-Janine
I only have her at 1/5
Nope
hmmm. do you have swimsuit misty?
hmmm I want to suggest swimsuit misty tanking but she's weak to grass
you can try with Leaf tanking but if she dies too quickly, allocate a good sp def tank like Sycamore instead
Yee
I used to tank poison stall with Venusaur 2/5
But I usually brought Starmie as well for S defense buffs and more healing
I did a week of 10k clear with 5 poison teams.
Sometimes you have to get creative
I'll go with Sycamore/Alister/Koga. Sycamore tanks, Alister provide poison and Koga nukes. Let's hope it'll work.
I don’t see any def debuffs on Lorelei
They should be using rock smash
I can get down to the last two pokemon but they one shot my team
Dolan is doing hard mode, not master.
He has 1/5 Dusknoir and Tsareena.
All 3 units level 120.
I was able to pretty easily clear the fight with 140|5/5 of each, but I swapped to grids that assumed only 1/5
The first enemy sync brought level 140 Tsareena low (like 35-40%), but a potion got her into the safe range.
Unfortunately, I can't test the team at level 120 and 1/5, so I can only advise down to a certain point
Enemy syncs get tserena to about 30% health
Bruh I can't beat blue 😣
Ok so I swapped tserena for my sst red and got through
Any advice on what effect to apply to blue? Here's my team
Permanent field effects would make Xerneas' move gauge speed permanent.
I feel like the special attack up is the best though. Pikachu will shred his enemies.
So the low sp Def one?
Why Sidney do you need dark type?
I was using cyrus Aaron and Rosa but can't beat him as well any advice?
We need rock they say
Could try Skyla instead of Aaron if she's available. Assuming Cyrus has his Critical Focus tile from his Sync grid he won't need a crit buffer
Yes.
Pikachu can basically solo and Xerneas was to tank/fairy. I told him last slot to use a dark or ground type for the medal
Nah she's used already
Marley or Roxanne?
@dapper coyote
Vespiquen tanking
Probopass buffing speed and satk
Kyurem killing
Roxanne + Cyrus + a tank of some sort would work well. Grid Roxanne for at least Trainer Move MP Refresh and get 1 to happen
Oh yeah, Aaron as tank would work, wouldn't he
I'll try
You can also spend the first sync cycle using "noble roar" instead of glaciate
To make sure the enemy sync move is weak
Wait, is it Cyrus or Ghetsis you're using?
Cyrus
Oh yeah😶
Ghetsis could definitely work with the same team though, if he hasn't been used yet
Used 😂
Would just need to use Trainer Move once
Cyrus is fine then
I have ss red as well but he's not working
Congrats!
Kyurem does...
Ghetsis has Kyurem, Cyrus has Palkia
I think it depends on the person and situation. I usually use trainer names or trainer + pokemon if I need to be more specific
Dragon, water, and poison are three of next week's types, so super easy to get done.
Normal I think you had Silvally. Eevee, Snorlax, and Giovanni/Persian are also good options that fit in most teams.
Bug and ground are harder.
Try to get Palkia to EX and grid expansion from the current event. Palkia is a super strong dragon type, and with him on a team you can probably have a spare team slot to use a ground or bug type in.
Pokemon is better 100% of the time.
Only the dupes like Redzard/Leonzard, ashchu/redchu, Ho-oh/Mo-Oh, etc need clarification
Rip MCChu ):
I mean, you're free to hold that opinion. My opinion is otherwise
When egg mon pikachu 4 gets potioks you’ll all be lauginf then
Trainer names - muddled and confusing, do not convey what Pokemon or relevent kit is in use unless you memorize every combination.
Pokemon name - clearly communicates what Pokemon you are sending into battle and what kind of kit it has.
We have Eggchu. And shiny Eggchu.
That’s why i said 4🦑
So agree to disagree then
Cool
Trainer names also have issues between languages. There are trainers in other languages who share names. It's come up before in this discord, until the non-english player sends a screenshot
@stoic vine
Next week we should be easily able to get you the medal done, and into attempting Master Mode
Water and dragon having tons of options, and poison stall being a free option
And Mewtwo for ghost
You could just use koga for poison weak
Only fighting type is hard for free/new players next week.
And Solgaleo is good enough for hard mode (and up through like 1200 point clears, probably still easy)
We also got Korrina and Bruno, iirc
Oh yeah evasion lorelei pain
Ya, all the fighting weak fights have evasion to make you want buzzwole and Solgaleo!
Or bring medicham for specific hits.
Also, Keldeo and Cyncario have aura sphere accuracy
I'll probably hop back in this chat to ask for teams next week then 😅
I'm still not great at teambuilding in this game but I'm starting to learn
You’ll get better at it over time
I have a team built for generic events and know what to swap if I need more power and whatnot. It's just specific events I'm learning for


How are these teams for this week?
Good teams though get rid of bugsy scyther for someone that buffs speed on lugia team
Skyla?
Yeah she works
is ss brock worth building for blue, or will he simply fall short
all of my "carry" units (ones that can get 2,000 points with almost no support) are used
I need 1300 pts
SS Brock will work but also you probably have good off types
Easier to just throw Cyrus at him
oh wait I kind of forgot nessa exists
(Rock tomb is 39 power?
...)
💀
And yeah I will throw Cyrus at him
Ty
Ty
If u can just offtype
Cyrus do be strong
Yeah Cyrus is a strong unit and he’s free, great for water and dragon weak fights, and even offtyping in a pinch
He'll off-type out of a pinch if you just give him rain
I am still unsure how I messed up on the lugia run of all things
Legitimately don't know how u killed Bruno pre sync of all things
Built different I guess
I took all attack buffs and both Power on Hit so I could reduce bruno's bulk on strength. I think he only had strength 5
double master fair tho so I can't say much 
ok I tried using Bluegeot and even he could presync. Bluegeot still hasn't failed me for flying content
mine's 5/5 EXd though
Bluegeot will presync with a quadqueue
https://youtu.be/7FLlpmJm8hs my run was pretty messy and Falkner got killed after Blue's first sync so I couldn't even triplequeue properly after that
Hurricane's very nice
Risky plan.
Would be better if you could carry a bulkier tank or got good RNG where the opponents use trainer moves instead
Point is, even Hurricane Blue is enough to presync Bruno
Once Blue gets 2/5, he's quite reliable
is blue worth the ex for cs 2k clear?
this is the team i used for bruno,. but only cleared it with 1.5k others i clear with 2k
Blue can clear without EX. If you think he's worth EXing that's up to you.
Why Lisia?
Maybe flinch? Blue/Skyla/Lisia is a nice flinch combo.
nah. Blue does need to sync to do proper DPS, but his good damage comes mainly from DPS anyway
only EX if you like him or PIdgeot. there are other flying types worth the EX
Blue buffs himself very slowly. you need a faster buffer
Blue onlu really needs Sselesa as a partner imo but he could use gauge help
Replace lisia with a spatk buffer and im sure u can clear it
if my SSA Cynthia only 1/5, what would be the best team against Lorelei (Fighting weak), esp given her evasiveness? I have 5/5 Wally, 1/5 Bea, 1/5 Cobalion, and all the free units of course.
Aoe Flinch chance is omega low

