Champion Stadium

[toxic cobalt]

Teams first!

[boreal rose]

Bruno i think

Cuz Dojo Gloria is herself a physical damage dealer

[mellow linden]

For example, I ran A. Skyla + Falkner + BP Morty against Bruno, so I did him on Round 3 for maximum A. Skyla nuke

[boreal rose]

I have normal Skyla

Only that one

[full mesa]

I used Kahili nuke for the first time. 20k after 2 sync buffs. It's ok. If I could lower def then it would have been better.

[mellow linden]

I was just giving an example, you can definitely beat Bruno without A. Skyla

[toxic cobalt]

Blue Sabrina Skyla?

[full mesa]

Another team I used was Braviary/SkylaEx/SCLillie.

[full mesa]

Nice.

[boreal rose]

Sp Def

[full mesa]

A win it's a win.

[boreal rose]

Who should i fight on r3?

Agatha or Lance

Idk who i will use for Agatha yet

But who has lower

[full mesa]

Again, depends on your teams. R3 is special damage up so I did Agatha because I used Sycamore/Ghetsis/Clemont - HilbertEx.

[boreal rose]

Wanted to use Steven

[boreal rose]

Who? lmao

[full mesa]

Then do Agatha R4 since Summer Steven can flinch.

[boreal rose]

Hilbert?

I dont even own him

[boreal rose]

Ok

So can Dojo Gloria btw

[toxic cobalt]

Agatha round 3 would be absolute hell lol

[full mesa]

He's too extra. That's why I used Clemont on the 2nd run.

[full mesa]

Not with my team.

Post sync and debuff attacks at -6.

[full mesa]

But summer Steven gets on type bonus.

[boreal rose]

My god. Discord works like sh!t lately

Had to sent the separatlly

[full mesa]

I used Clemont to lower their speed and boost Glaciate damage. If you have a different team in mind, use that and don't spend limited resources.

[boreal rose]

I dont

I dont even use Ghetsis a lot

[full mesa]

He needs grid for that to work on 2k.

Double drop and pecking order is important.

[swift swan]

learned that the hard way

[boreal rose]

I think i'l use Hop, DGloria, Sonia

[full mesa]

Don't.

[swift swan]

But Ghetsis managed to tank Agatha's sync with full offense parameters. Ghetsis pogchamp I had to debuff Agatha to oblivion, though

[boreal rose]

Why

[swift swan]

a waste of two good supports

either Hop or Sonia. don't use both

[full mesa]

Both hop and Sonia do the same job. Change one of the two for speed/gauge support

[swift swan]

they do almost the same thing anyway

[boreal rose]

Both

Thats the point

[trail smelt]

Yeah i think I’ll try my luck with Devilris and see haha

[swift swan]

well don't complain if you run out of supports later on

[boreal rose]

But fr i will probably need a lot of potions

[full mesa]

Who is DevIris?

[trail smelt]

I’m the meantime here’s what I got for Monopoison

[toxic cobalt]

Potions are usually unneeded in this game

[trail smelt]

Upcoming Halloween unit

[mellow linden]

Then hope for MP Refresh

[toxic cobalt]

Most battles you win before health matters

[boreal rose]

From Sonia?

1/5 Sonia?

[full mesa]

Fall Iris = FIris. But I like DevilIris better.

[swift swan]

with Dojo Gloria on that team? I doubt it

[boreal rose]

Waitm i dont think i said i have her 1/5

[full mesa]

From Hop.

[boreal rose]

Nevermind

[boreal rose]

VampIris

[swift swan]

Go for Hop and a speed buffer then

[full mesa]

That's nice too.

[boreal rose]

Speed buffer

[full mesa]

Or gauge buffer.

[mellow linden]

If Sonia’s only 1/5 use Hop + Speed buffer then, yeah. Good examples are Marley and Skyla

[swift swan]

the point is, both Hop and Sonia do similar jobs. If you need extra potions, use someone cheaper. like Skyla

and skyla helps with gauge issues too

[boreal rose]

[boreal rose]

[mellow linden]

So Marley then, easy

[boreal rose]

Yeah

Not gridded tho

[mellow linden]

Should still be fine, Hop and Marley have low gauge use

[full mesa]

Well, trial and error is a thing in this game.

[boreal rose]

Eh

Not really

There is pain and bigger pain

And satisfaction of doing/getting what you were doing/pulling for

Who psync with?

[full mesa]

Most of the time my plans fail and I happen to stumble upon victory with peculiar teams. So yeah, trial and error.

Only Gloria.

[boreal rose]

Ok

So close

I'l grid Marley

Even if jusg for MP refresh

Is Flinch a status condition?

Does it count as one

[swift swan]

no

just grab the no status condition, it's free

you won't need any status

[swift swan]

yeah, just a bit of trial and error there. you've basically got it

[full mesa]

For this fight I used Hop/Marley/KGrimsley. So much fun seen Metal Burst dealing 10k after only 1 sync buff.

Also a really powerful team is Hop/Marley - Skyla/Solgaleo but the latter needs grid.

[swift swan]

I went with Hop/EX Steven/Masked Royal. People complain about Steven's damage but I personally have no issues. probably because mine's 3/5

[spring fable]

for my ref

[boreal rose]

Should i

Sonia dies quickly

Lillie will faster probably

Worh a try

I hate this game

Kanto CS isnt easy

People are lying here

[spring fable]

Ayo

Xerneas literally 1v2 the sides

[swift swan]

remember this is not set in stone! the ones highlighted in grey can be switched around with extra strength if you do need them

[swift swan]

Sycamore's just too good. can't wait for his EX and grid expansion

[swift swan]

it's the easiest. most people would say it's easy because we've played the other CS regions

[spring fable]

just beat bruno and agatha with your recommended team from a few hrs ago!

[swift swan]

nice job!

who's left?

[spring fable]

lance then blue

[boreal rose]

Its not easy

[swift swan]

you're probably having gauge issues. steven's pretty slow. also, what round is this? R3 Agatha hits especially hard

[boreal rose]

R4

[swift swan]

good luck!

[spring fable]

damn i lost the lance fight

[swift swan]

well, if it's your first CS, of course it's not

[spring fable]

lemme try again

[swift swan]

hmm. I think you might need a special defense buffer if you're dying too quickly

[boreal rose]

Do you not remember me? 💀

[spring fable]

ok lance is down

[swift swan]

OH

[spring fable]

@swift swan for blue fight, do i take permanent field effect?

[swift swan]

LMAO SORRY I DIDN'T RECOGNIZE YOUR NEW USERNAME

[swift swan]

yup

[boreal rose]

Oh yeah. I changed my username

I forgot lmao

[spring fable]

i lost first time again 😦

[toxic cobalt]

Don't worry, I think I've now lost to Lorelei 50 times today

[keen jasper]

I used R1 with SS Ethan and a rain setter

[swift swan]

I remember going through reset hell with Lorelei. not this one though. The fighting-weak one

[toxic cobalt]

I've come so close so many times

[spring fable]

yes i did itttt

[toxic cobalt]

Going to try switching teams though

[spring fable]

i almost lost tho

somehow they missed their aoes

[boreal rose]

Who would be good wirh HotColdSteven?

[spring fable]

would've lost

[boreal rose]

Doesnt matter if i have them or no. Just what would be good with him

[spring fable]

@swift swan so i just got to 4250 pts, just stop and ignore the mode until next week?

[swift swan]

well done! if you're feeling like it, you can bump it up to 7.5k

[spring fable]

i dont think i can, i struggled against blue, was lucky i won

[swift swan]

all the good rewards stop at 4.2k basically, so anything higher is just for extra stuff that isn't that important

[spring fable]

he missed his aoe and i lost all my safety net endures

[swift swan]

take a break! if you do want to try for higher points, you have the whole week to do so

congratulations on the master mode!

[spring fable]

ty!

[boreal rose]

I have a question. How does B Thunderbolt work on MM?

With the ally move guage thing

[swift swan]

Pal Bea would be nice. that way you don't need Candice (because I assume she's only there to give Hail to steven)

[swift swan]

if you pick ally move gauge -2, the max you can do is 4 gauges, so your damage only scales up to 4 gauges as well

[swift swan]

what are you trying

[boreal rose]

The emoji makes me understand the response in multiple ways

Probably should have used someone else than Sonia

Welp

Which parameter for Blue?

The special ones

[swift swan]

depends, what's your gameplan?

[boreal rose]

Idk

But i Olivia dies

[swift swan]

with Olivia, you're better off carrying a sandstorm user

Using sycamore there is already a good choice though. Olivia TM twice, then Sycamore syncs to buff her sp defense again

[boreal rose]

Only Acerola

[swift swan]

it's fine

[boreal rose]

125

1/5

[swift swan]

Grid Olivia with Inertia and Sand Blaster (plus her sync tiles)

you only need Acerola for sandstorm and that's it

use the permanent field effects param

if you can, grid Acerola with Aggravation on Astonish. that's the only thing she needs. maybe you can get lucky with some flinches

because without any special defense buffs, the right side's Heat Wave is gonna OHKO Olivia (at least for me, with full offensive params)

[boreal rose]

Im using Pre sync parameters

[swift swan]

be careful for the right side then

but yeah with Sycamore on that team, you should be able to sustain yourself long enough. Horn Leech Sycamore is crazy good

[boreal rose]

What grid should Olivia haveM

[swift swan]

this is what I usually run

[boreal rose]

O

Ok

[swift swan]

wait hold on there's still 4 energy left just grab all the small attack tiles I guess

[boreal rose]

I have her 4/5

[gaunt sentinel]

any good third members for Blue and Skyla, trying to do Bruno with em

[boreal rose]

Acerola should have gotten Endure on the Over Here or whatever her TM is called

[swift swan]

if you can reach that, sure I guess. I just like running sync nuke Olivia more

[boreal rose]

Ded

[swift swan]

accuracy buffer like Lillie. Grid Blue with Brutal Clarity if 2/5

[swift swan]

oof, what happened? a sync move?

[gaunt sentinel]

actually gonna use Zinnia over blue since she's 140 ex

[boreal rose]

Yes

[swift swan]

dragon ascent's gonna debuff your defenses to oblivion though so watch out for that

[gaunt sentinel]

might try pre sync then to kill

[swift swan]

Did you manage to get a second sync with Olivia? I assume you did considering your sync countdown

[boreal rose]

No

[boreal rose]

Sycamore

[swift swan]

hmmm yeah I guess quadqueueing is a bit hard with Sycamore unless you grab Adrenaline

[swift swan]

does Olivia have her crit maxed btw? I don't think she can max her crit with only 1 use of her TM

unless her TM refreshed?

[boreal rose]

It didnt

[swift swan]

use her TM twice

you need that +3 crit

[boreal rose]

I tyink it didnt

I didnt pay attention

@swift swan should i use Ace's TM?

[swift swan]

hmmm better not

let Sycamore tank

[boreal rose]

Ok

[swift swan]

the more flinches you get with Acerola on the right opponent, the better

[boreal rose]

I fvcked hp the quadqueue

Also Sycamofe doesnt tank all that well durin sand

I hate this game

[swift swan]

the gradual healing should mitigate the sand recoil

use Horn Leech if you're low on HP with sycamore

[boreal rose]

It doesnt

I only use it thats the thing

Sycamore is TM → Horn leech

[swift swan]

it's a bit hard to quadqueue with Sycamore if Team Shout procs. Adrenaline on grid guarantees a quadqueue tho

[boreal rose]

Na i clicked Olivias attack before Sycamores sync accidentally

[swift swan]

ah

[tame wind]

What CSMM modifiers are you guys using to beat Bruno - I can't seem to win even with my OP characters. The guy just has too much HP so I can't kill him with nukes/poison before he reaches 2nd sync - has impervious so I can't debuff him, etc

[swift swan]

presync

Bruno actually has lower offenses than normal CS stages

[boreal rose]

For me Bruno was the easiest

What charakters are you using?

[tame wind]

weird, he basically 3 shots my EX latios with close combat, or 2 CC + sync

[boreal rose]

What are your other team members

Also. I used EX Skyla and i did it

[swift swan]

if Bruno keeps using close combat, maybe it's time to reset

that's what I usually do with my presync runs (which is all the time)

[boreal rose]

Im dead

Probably

I w8sj flinch delayes Sync Move by 1

Olivia sucks

[flint verge]

is it possible to off type while trying to go for 10k?

[swift swan]

of course

[boreal rose]

I would if i could

[swift swan]

oof, my Olivia actually has a deadly nuke and should OHKO Blue easily

[swift swan]

no offtypers left?

[boreal rose]

🙃

[swift swan]

poison stall maybe?

[boreal rose]

I doubt it

[flint verge]

who is good to offtype?

[boreal rose]

Used Ash on Agatha

[boreal rose]

I cant

[swift swan]

you can try 2v3 with just Acerola and Sycamore... just needs to get good flinch RNG and Horn Leech to heal back up

[swift swan]

why? Something like Sycamore + BP Erika + potion unit should be fine

[boreal rose]

Yeah no

Sycamore dies

Even a hit from aerial ace kills it after the sync

Is Firis on Monday or Sunday

[swift swan]

sneak in an X Attack or two with Olivia

[tame wind]

Strikers/Techs/Supports

[formal vigil]

Have you used skyla yet?

[swift swan]

even with all her multipliers, she won't do as good damage if she has no attack buffs

[boreal rose]

Sycamore sync doesnt add it?

[swift swan]

according to the bot... she's coming in exactly 7 resets

[boreal rose]

[boreal rose]

So Monday

[swift swan]

sycamore's sync buffs special attack

[formal vigil]

Sycamore buffs special attack

[boreal rose]

Oh

[formal vigil]

Also speed special sefence

[boreal rose]

Why do people tell me to lvl him up then

[swift swan]

and speed (which you need for Olivia's multiplier). he also buffs special defense which is nice because with Olivia's TM, her sp def is debuffed

[boreal rose]

Is there a way to get my lvl uo books back lmao

[swift swan]

because he's a great support?

[formal vigil]

Maybe replace Sycamore with hop for attack and crit

[boreal rose]

Cant

[swift swan]

Hop already used iirc

[boreal rose]

Ye

[tame wind]

Sycamore's sync buffs SA/SD/PD/Spd - maxes them all which is amazing!

[boreal rose]

What

SA means ot me a not good thing from all the reddit/twitter vids i saw

[tame wind]

especiall speed, because speed = move gauge charge

[formal vigil]

If sycamore also buffed crit he would be perfect

[tame wind]

plus depending on his grid you can get additional effects

[swift swan]

praying he gets critical squad or focus group for his grid expansion

[tame wind]

btw an of you guys take a look at my roster yet

[swift swan]

Horn Leech sycamore with recuperation is a nearly unkillable tank in most cases

[tame wind]

and horn leech + buffs makes an insane sustain tank - at least up until the opponent syncs more than 2/3 times. you do need his grid for this to work well though

[swift swan]

for Bruno? you have a lot of options. SS Red + Morty, the two Pikachu, SS Cyrus, SS Steven...

[boreal rose]

Doubt

[swift swan]

or just, ya know, Blue Pidgeot

[swift swan]

sycamore has been proven to be able to solo quite a few LAs so....

[boreal rose]

Idc

[tame wind]

Would you use sunsetters for Red? Or try to QQ?

[boreal rose]

I fricking HATE Sycamore

[swift swan]

I don't think you need to quadqueue with him. it's nice if you pull it off, but he has adrenaline and the innate propulsions

[boreal rose]

My opinion on him will never change

[tame wind]

Sounds like Gloria just wants to complain

[swift swan]

and yes, sun helps

[swift swan]

well, idk what to tell you other than he's a great unit

[tame wind]

would you still use presync modifiers with that duo? I've tried with them already and usually still can't DPS enough to clear before the first sync, sometimes even 2nd sync.

[marsh vault]

Opinion don't really matter when facts show xerneas is a great f2p unit

[zealous karma]

I used Olivia alongside Acerola myself

Oh that was a while ago

[tame wind]

running sun nuke grid for red, general support for morty

[swift swan]

SS Morty and SS Red can't presync? they should be able too, just fine. but judging how SS Morty is a great tank, I think you can try postsyncing

[boreal rose]

Ace is 1/5 tho

Mine

[swift swan]

almost everone has 1/5 Acerola

she doesn't need anything else

just a free sandstorm setter and a flinchbot

[zealous karma]

Any attack boosting support works here

My Olivia is 2/5

[tame wind]

ill try again and get back to you

[swift swan]

Good luck! I need to go to bed soon though

[swift swan]

I usually run Olivia/Hilbert/Acerola

[boreal rose]

Why do people do Poison stall

It takes AGES to do it

[swift swan]

but that's almost a free win

[boreal rose]

No its not

[swift swan]

if you have no good damage dealers left, poison stall is always a valid strategy

just needs patience

and a nasty ton of debuffing

[boreal rose]

Who is patience

[swift swan]

If you don't know patience, that's on you

[zealous karma]

You explained why I don’t lel

[swift swan]

I haven't stalled in a long time either

[zealous karma]

But Acerola any Atk buff and Olivia will beat the stage very easily Acerola has an amazing 1/5 grid if you want to do that

[flint verge]

is ssleaf good for the grass fight?

[boreal rose]

Doubt

[tame wind]

yep can't do it - Machamp reaches 1st sync before I can ramp enough damage to kill it - even with no defense modifiers. do I sync with morty first for the 2x? Or just go straigh nuke with red?

[zealous karma]

Gets aggravation Flag nearer and MPr on sandstorm all at 1/5

Those tiles are amazing

[swift swan]

morty first

[zealous karma]

If you want to for whatever candy Acerola to 2/5 you’ll get focus group and sand shelter

Acerola is still like a top 3 sand setter

And everyone has her at 1/5

[tame wind]

okay that's what I did. idk what to do then 😦

[swift swan]

case in point, against Rock-weak Drake which was arguably harder

[boreal rose]

I dont need that ngl

[boreal rose]

AYO WHO THAT DUDE ON THE LEFT

(not drake)

[swift swan]

hmm, what's your third team member?

[formal vigil]

That's syna suit blue

[zealous karma]

If you don’t want to use Acerola use egg mon tech Kabutops

Sygna suit blue and blastoise

Oh someone said it

[swift swan]

a tank? when it comes to tanking he and sycamore is more or less the same

sure enough EX support makes a difference

but this is Kanto and well

you can get away without an EX support sync

[zealous karma]

My Plivia didn’t one shot center happy face

She did last week so I was a little confused but idc I beat the stage

[gaunt sentinel]

dunno how to do Lorelei now

[swift swan]

mine's 5/5 EX so that might explain it

[gaunt sentinel]

using the pre sync conditions because lodge bulbasaur dies to the sync either way

but can't kill before I die

[tame wind]

This is about as far as I can get before he nukes my DPS into oblivion

[swift swan]

another one without EX Olivia

[swift swan]

Lear? is he for extra sync countdown?

[tame wind]

yeah

[swift swan]

Is Silver available? SS Morty allows dual DPS easily

[boreal rose]

I hate this game

Makes me want to throw my phone

[zealous karma]

That is definitely a team for her

[boreal rose]

[zealous karma]

Not a good team for marnie but it is one

[tame wind]

yeah he is - I'll give that a try

[boreal rose]

Not even power of Simps can beat it

[swift swan]

does Marnie have her crit maxed?

[boreal rose]

Idk

[formal vigil]

Does Marnie buff crit

[swift swan]

buffs crit via TM

but only on Hangry Mode

[boreal rose]

Oh

Snack time

[swift swan]

idk, not familiar with Marnie

[boreal rose]

Used it 1 time

[zealous karma]

Why don’t you use Hop Olivia and Acerola?

[swift swan]

she only buffs crit by 2. you need a TM MPR

[swift swan]

Hop already used

[zealous karma]

Use any attack buffer moyai emoji

[swift swan]

Hilbert is usually my go-to

[boreal rose]

What

Hilbert who?

[formal vigil]

You could also do Aaron/sonia

[tame wind]

Still too slow 😦

[swift swan]

1. What's Lillie even doing
2. Marnie's self buff takes too long
3. Bring an electric terrain user

[boreal rose]

Bring no one got it

[swift swan]

volkner?

[boreal rose]

Who

Never met him

[zealous karma]

There are so many attack buffers use any of them

[swift swan]

did you manage to get 2 syncs in?

[tame wind]

No

[boreal rose]

Oh oh!

Nita

[swift swan]

...he used to be one of the THREE units obtainable via sinnoh pool before it got updated this anni. that's some bad luck if you don't have him yet

[boreal rose]

If i played during Sinnoh VA

Id have him i think

[formal vigil]

I mean you can get 30 sinnoh tickets rn

[swift swan]

oof, no propulsion procs? were you able to quadqueue?

[formal vigil]

From cyrus event

[boreal rose]

Nita instead of who

[boreal rose]

No i cant

[zealous karma]

Nita instead of sycamore on the team of Olivia Acerola

[boreal rose]

Ok

[swift swan]

Olivia would take a while to buff her speed though

[tame wind]

no- yeah I'm gona try to reset to to get propulsion

[swift swan]

also Nita's slow

and if you use Fly it will mess with your sync countdown

[boreal rose]

Im starting to hate Marnie's Fidough's battle Theme ngl

[swift swan]

idk, Nita's... tricky to use

[tame wind]

even stil though it feels like machamp gets to sync far faster than I'd like - like even with propulsion i'd only be able to get to 4 moves left before my own 2nd sync

and no i don't have any sync modifiers

[boreal rose]

What does Leaf buff that Sycamore also does?

Eevee

[swift swan]

special attack, speed, special defense

[boreal rose]

But waitm the team will be slow

Before sync i mewn

[swift swan]

in addition to that, Leaf buffs all other stats (except evasiveness and crit) by 2 everytime she syncs

Leaf has a low gauge move and can generate gauge via TM

even better if you can get staggering procs

[boreal rose]

Yeah but she is

Oh 3/5

[swift swan]

at this point I think you're better off poison stalling Sycamore/Leaf/BP Erika or something

just grab their recuperation tiles

[tame wind]

Do i have to get multiple propulsion procs to reach 2nd sync before their first sync?

[swift swan]

no

even 1 would be nice

[boreal rose]

No im not

[swift swan]

even without any, I think you can reach 2nd sync if you're able to quadqueue

[tame wind]

I can't even get close to my 2nd sync before they hit me with their 1st - like I have 3-4 moves left to go when they sync. I have no idea what I'm doing wrong.

[boreal rose]

Guess how many lvl up books i have

[swift swan]

anything that floats your boat then I'm just suggesting a totally valid strategy that just requires some patience

[boreal rose]

https://tenor.com/view/rosa-pokemon-eyebrows-raised-look-at-me-gif-16754817

[swift swan]

you triplequeue the whole time, right?

[boreal rose]

And BP Erikas lvl

[tame wind]

yeah

[swift swan]

you basically only need her to survive a few turns at the beginning to poison and trap everyone. the rest doesn't matter

[boreal rose]

She is lvl 100

1/5

[swift swan]

it's fine

[boreal rose]

Also whats Leafs grid

[swift swan]

potion MPRs and master healers plus recuperation

if you have orbs left, grab HP and defensive tiles

still, tank with sycamore

[boreal rose]

That makes no sense to me

[swift swan]

this is my regular build for her, but the only thing that matters for stalling is the ones on bottom right

Potion MPR and Master Healer

[boreal rose]

Ok

[swift swan]

hmm, correction. get rid of Adrenaline, grab Recuperation up top instead

[tame wind]

This is the closest I’ve gotten with 1 propulsions. Maybe I do need red at 5/5 for the extra damage.

[gaunt sentinel]

I'm just stuck doing Lorelei

not sure if I should try lodge bulbasaur or 1/5 SS Erika

[zealous karma]

Nita buffs Spd by 4 ranks you’d need one amped up prock to max it

I sent the wrong video

But the team works

[swift swan]

no you don't. don't candy a unit just for one stage

[zealous karma]

https://streamable.com/7jzmmp

[boreal rose]

Olivia sucks

[zealous karma]

That’s simply wrong 🦑

[boreal rose]

Nope

[zealous karma]

Try using grant that’s a unit who sucks

[subtle forge]

Correction: stone edge sucks

[zealous karma]

Also true

[swift swan]

SS Erika and Brendan usually clear grass-weak stages just fine for me. Hilbert's a good support for them

[swift swan]

This is why nuke Olivia is the best Olivia

[zealous karma]

I sent you a video for reference on how the team works try following my actions followed here

[subtle forge]

It’s also the only Olivia 💀

[zealous karma]

Why this unit not have ramming Spd

Wth

[swift swan]

why is red only at +2 crit? maybe that's the problem here

[swift swan]

I mean the best way to build Olivia

[zealous karma]

You do not need a 5/5 red no one does

[swift swan]

but still, her only gauge move is a 3-gauge one. Stone Edge sucks but that's still much better than rock throw

[tame wind]

I got unluck with Morty's "believe" crit boost refresh as I was starting to chain damage moves - pretty sure i still crit all of those times though

[subtle forge]

Implying you could try and build her for DPS ()

[zealous karma]

If you’re struggling with red maybe it’s your parameters

[zealous karma]

Red has dire hit + on his kit

[swift swan]

what else is she supposed to do before she syncs throwing rocks?

[zealous karma]

Also unless your red is 1/5 syncing with silver is probably a lot worse

I can’t tell if your silver is EX or has his expansion

[tame wind]

This is after 2nd sync with charizard with a propulsion boost.

[swift swan]

I was wondering how come Acerola managed to flinch so much... it's the 4th round param isn't it

[swift swan]

hey, he works as a flincher

[toxic cobalt]

How much defence have you given them???

[tame wind]

0

it's all STR/ATK

[swift swan]

Does SS Red have Haymaker gridded?

[tame wind]

yep

[boreal rose]

Im 100% sure this game has favourites

[swift swan]

he's only at +1 attack there

[boreal rose]

And its not characters im talking about

[toxic cobalt]

Oh they're all only +1spatk too

For some reason

[swift swan]

glances at Lillie is that so?
obligatory Lillie joke

[swift swan]

it's weird because Silver has used up his TMs. so probably pre-expansion Silver?

[tame wind]

yes

wasn't around for the event

still fully gridded though

[toxic cobalt]

Does Smorty not give anything?

[swift swan]

syncing with Red is better then

[tame wind]

unfortunately my morty is only 1/5 - so all he can do is provide sun and boost defenses/speed/crit

he is EXd tho

[swift swan]

I don't think 1/5 Smorty buffs offenses yet

[boreal rose]

I said im not talking about characters

[toxic cobalt]

Oh. Ditch Silver then go full SSR

Don't dual strike if you can't buff

[swift swan]

still, that means ss red's lacking attack buffs for haymaker

[boreal rose]

This B word

[swift swan]

is Hilbert available? he gives fast attack buffs

[boreal rose]

Uses aheat wave and doesnt get flinched

How dare he

[swift swan]

did you try following the video here

it's past midnight here so I really need to go to bed. night all

[boreal rose]

Oh

[tame wind]

I

[boreal rose]

Good night

Wish i pulled on SC Banner

[tame wind]

I'll try putting in support giovanni for ATK boost - but then I lose the MGA from silver - hopefully morty's is enough

[zealous karma]

I took the param for higher change on effects as you need to flinch the bird

[full mesa]

In that combo I think permanent sand is better. You can always play with probability.

[zealous karma]

I didn’t need perma sand in the video but I do think flinching the sides without chance is much safer

[boreal rose]

Ok so post sync is the key to win i think

Idk but im able to do more with it

[zealous karma]

You shouldn’t need to post sync

[full mesa]

Also people don't forget. TheGamingEevee has a video with f2p clear at 10k.

[zealous karma]

Did you watch the video I sent?

I believe they don’t have an EX Barry

[boreal rose]

Not for me

[full mesa]

Dunno about the specifics. Just a reminder.

[boreal rose]

Ik

[zealous karma]

Or an EX Brock

[tame wind]

holy shit that was the answer! I finally got him!

had to get the propulsion, and the 2nd sync with charizard nuked the entire enemy team into oblivion - should have been paying attention to haymaker more

[full mesa]

Wait. How do you proc Haymaker with that team?

Does SSMorty boost att?

[tame wind]

nah I switched out Silver for support giovanni who has a TM that boosts attack

[boreal rose]

I want Blue to die

Burn

Idc

Just not exist

[tame wind]

fuuuuck that took so long

[full mesa]

Can't Xerneas take the sides solo?

[boreal rose]

No

Dead after aerial ace

Also brutal swing takes half of the hp he had

And he had more than in the pic

[zealous karma]

Why don’t you just use the team I sent you…?

[boreal rose]

This shit is like 2%

[boreal rose]

With Nita?

[zealous karma]

Yes

[boreal rose]

Hmm

Idk

I wouldnt be able to do it

[zealous karma]

Also why are you using rock throw what’s your full grid?

Why?

[boreal rose]

Wait

[zealous karma]

It’s just copying what I did

[boreal rose]

[boreal rose]

Thats the thing

My game 50% of the time restarts aftervi leave it

[bleak eagle]

My god, dena woke up and said "here, all the types u have almost no mons for"

[zealous karma]

If you want me to type out the queue order I can do that

[boreal rose]

And how will that help?

[bleak eagle]

Any round order? Im gonna have to offtype p much the entirety of the mm

[zealous karma]

You can’t remember the move queue?

[formal vigil]

well it depends on your teams

[zealous karma]

Idk if your phone has a mini player for youtube but I can upload it and see if you can follow it like that?

[boreal rose]

I cant

[boreal rose]

Its Youtube premium

[zealous karma]

I don’t have YouTube premium and my phone has a mini player so I was wondering lel

Can you go into your phones settings and like turn off background app refresh for poma?

[boreal rose]

Doubt it

Idk what its name

Of the "do not turn off"

[keen jasper]

Multitask?

[zealous karma]

Idk

It’s just on

I think it’s smth apple phones do

[boreal rose]

Probably

Or youtube premium

[zealous karma]

Not that I still get ads for YouTube premium and it’s very ironic

[trail smelt]

Next week’s team?

[boreal rose]

I wanna delete this gane so hard rn

[zealous karma]

Do you have Cyrus winona and Any crit buffer available?

[boreal rose]

Idk

Cyris yes

Winona too

[formal vigil]

applin is your ash still available

[trail smelt]

Gridded Rain Cyrus?

[bleak eagle]

This one, didnt even notice i used p much all the next week's recommended lol

[boreal rose]

Nah

[boreal rose]

He is EX tho

[lunar meadow]

@sturdy zephyr
Who is the main grass damage dealer you are trying to use?

What order are you doing the fights in?

[bleak eagle]

I feel like the ghetsis team needs some work, any tips regarding who i could bring?

[formal vigil]

bruno round 3 lance round 1 agatha round 2 lorelei round 4

[sturdy zephyr]

i got rosa erika ramio gardenia lrya ss erika and victor

[boreal rose]

Yes why?

[zealous karma]

Because Cyrus off typing is very free

I have to go now or I’ll never right this essay adios I hope you can beat the stag

E

[boreal rose]

Lvl 125 tho

[lunar meadow]

Leafeon and Rillaboom are both incredibly strong.

If you are doing hard mode, either is an easy win.

For master mode, I'd recommend Rillaboom. Then bring a physically offensive support like Zamazenta (or Samurott/Yamper)

[boreal rose]

@trail smelt

[subtle forge]

E

[sturdy zephyr]

ok

[formal vigil]

sycamore and someone that can buff crit

[bleak eagle]

leafeon, omg, i had forgotten

i can on-type lorelei

[boreal rose]

I cant do the Rain grid

[formal vigil]

all you need is hydro pumb raiming speed with accuracy tiles

crit focus too

[boreal rose]

Idk

I need to see the grid

[bleak eagle]

#1009587872342478908

Document has it all

[boreal rose]

I cant do it

I literally cant

[formal vigil]

how come?

[boreal rose]

Guess ehat it has that i dont

Hint: some free units get it during VA

Also Palkia sucks lmao

[zealous karma]

That is just factually wrong

[boreal rose]

Does 700 damage

[zealous karma]

Palki so an amazing unit

[formal vigil]

you don't need the power boost

[boreal rose]

I do

Have you not seen the grid?

[formal vigil]

plus its retuning soon

[zealous karma]

I have seen his grid

And I’ve off typed with this grid

Before he even had an EX

Multiple times

[formal vigil]

same

[boreal rose]

Look at the one Natwaf told me to use

[zealous karma]

That’s a good grid too

If you don’t have a crit support

Just take critical focus

You don’t need refreshing rain however

[bleak eagle]

This better for the rounds?

Cuz if so i need to grid blue

[boreal rose]

Lmao

Cyrus sycks

Doesnt even do 2k

[bleak eagle]

Why do i get the feeling i have to prove someone wrong

[zealous karma]

Can you please not make claims if you don’t know how to use a unit

[simple storm]

cyrus is insane wdym

[formal vigil]

idk man litterally cyrus is strong as some pokefairs

[simple storm]

both of them are nasty

[bleak eagle]

That man does all battle villa like its a cakewalk

[keen jasper]

If you have Lillie, than she can boost Cyrus's Sp. Atk. by 3 and immediately trigger Critical Focus 2

[boreal rose]

Doesnt matter. Dude doesnt even crit

[keen jasper]

Spacial Rend?

[boreal rose]

He is the Kokomi of Poma

[simple storm]

???

[boreal rose]

Exoect ir never crits

[simple storm]

just give him 3 crit

lol

[bleak eagle]

But aye, are the teams good? I have like 30 minutes left on break so its now or never

[simple storm]

not that hard

[boreal rose]

Give jt to me then

[zealous karma]

I would replace swimisty witha. Different unit another grass striker works, Replacing falkner with Sygna suit elesa if you have her and should be fine.
That off type team should be free
I’d use a diff support than Aaron unless he’s your only 5* support Ex and replace sycamore with someone else as he competes with sync with Aaron

[simple storm]

yeah teams are fine

misty is ehh tank

[keen jasper]

If you have have enough patience for Spacial Rend to crit, then do it

[simple storm]

and blue u might want to sync with him first so no sup ex

[simple storm]

use one of your crit buffers then??

doesnt he have like crit on entry

[keen jasper]

On his expanded grid

[simple storm]

and only needs +2

[simple storm]

the event is live no?

[formal vigil]

ex one is

[keen jasper]

October 13

[simple storm]

ah

[bleak eagle]

He's the only 5* ex supp left, ye, and u sure abt replacing falkner for elesa? And my only other grass striker is a 2/5 sceptile so that wont do, anyone lese i could use?

[simple storm]

well on 3 days u see how good he is

[zealous karma]

Also yes I’m sure about replacing falkner for elesa

[simple storm]

still my main water dps

elesa might be a good pick

[zealous karma]

Elesa gets his blue to his sync faster

[simple storm]

sync accel crit and spatk

its good

[bleak eagle]

[zealous karma]

Oh also no Rosa EX ?

[simple storm]

can blue buff crit

[bleak eagle]

1/5 so im not sure how useful she can be

[zealous karma]

Elesa is set at 1/5

[simple storm]

yah

[zealous karma]

She gets Tm MPR at 1/5

[bleak eagle]

No, i mean rosa

[simple storm]

i prefer elesa to rosa

elesa at least does something

rosa sits there and gives gauge

[zealous karma]

I meant for the Ghetsus team my bad

[bleak eagle]

But elesa goes on blue, im referring to the 3rd member of the grass team

[simple storm]

any tank

[zealous karma]

Or another grass striker

[simple storm]

like a big tank

true

[keen jasper]

I mean she can sustain herself with damage healing, but probably not as good as Sycamore

[simple storm]

sycamore is just better

[zealous karma]

All rosa does now is eX support sad times

[simple storm]

yeah

so sad

[zealous karma]

We live i. A world where glacia is slightly better than rosa

I want to cry

[bleak eagle]

Lemme try replacing swimisty with rosa, falkner for elesa, and try to do 10k

Ill brb

Nvm, eevee is a thing, rosa gets the boot

[austere fable]

Bruh why can’t I beat Bruno 😭 skyla, SS Ethan, and no matter who my third unit is are getting rolled

[bleak eagle]

I should ex more suppirts even if i dont use em

[bleak eagle]

Which round u using?

[austere fable]

Second

[bleak eagle]

[austere fable]

I tried darach, but he’s impervious for some reason (not selected in my challenges)

I tried Arron, but the defense Is useless cus he just finishes me off with an aoe hit after his nuke

I even tried moving around my Params some to reduce his strength+ and it only helped marginally

[formal vigil]

bruno gets to sync shoudn't ss ethan like detroy him also run someone who boost special attack

like rosa for example for third

[austere fable]

I get him low, I always need one or two more turns to be Abel to finish him when he nukes us

[austere fable]

Could try that, don’t need her for the grass stage

[formal vigil]

whats your team for grass

[peak stirrup]

I’m using SS Blue Bugsy Scyther and 3/5 Hala for Round 4 Agatha.
Are there better supports to use? Or better teams? I don’t have any of the holiday pairs or the ice cream cone

[austere fable]

SS lyra and SC Sonia. Dunno about the support yet, but I have plenty, and since im going with a phys team I don’t need a sp support

[formal vigil]

you could use hop as a third on that team

[austere quest]

Easy 10k

[austere fable]

But yea, don’t need to worry about my supports

[formal vigil]

so use rosa with ss ethan

[austere quest]

Yeah, free support EX good

You shouldn’t be having too many issues with On Type plus Support Ex

I did Bruno R3 Off Type with SS Brendan EX and was fine

[austere fable]

Did that, it worked, I’m not sure how this one worked in comparison, but somehow Ethan survived the nuke (but barely) and Bruno chose to use a single target attach instead of an aoe

[austere quest]

Sometimes it’s just RNG and matter of trying again

[formal vigil]

yeah

[austere fable]

I figured the nuke was going to kill him, cus even with some defense boosting supports the ex always one shot Ethan, but this one time, without any defense boosting, he survived

[austere quest]

That’s so weird

[austere fable]

And now for my least favorite frequently occurring weakness, ice. Who would you guys recommend I use against Agatha?

[austere quest]

Hala or Ghetis is probably fine

Use Bea and Glacia

[austere fable]

Even though neither offer gauge support for both ghetsis and hala’s high costs?

Eh screw it im just gonna pikachu off type this stage

[bleak eagle]

im running into a bit of a big problem

knon as blue is getting oneshot

[boreal rose]

This game hates me

Im doing a 1500 run

Also it feels bad going here and asking for help

Cuz i wanted to do it alone

Also cuz of this server i thought its easy so i thought i wont have problems

[bleak eagle]

u can alays offtype if there's a need to

im going to offtype the champion personally, my only good rock striker is 1/5 so

[austere quest]

Offtyping is not hard

[boreal rose]

Yeah

Forgot i have Anni May

[austere quest]

I managed with SC Hilda 1/5 with no Support EX

[bleak eagle]

is blue's defense nonexistant or hy is he dying so fast

[austere fable]

Thankfully I managed to get SC Hilda during the sc rerun, so I used her, SS Cyrus and SS morty

I think I was hit twice

[boreal rose]

I honestly want for Giovanni to have rerun of his event

[bleak eagle]

im using bea, hilbert and ssa cynthia

[boreal rose]

The EX event i mewn

[bleak eagle]

all ex so u bet there's enough dmg

[austere fable]

God I wish, I’m like 17 spirits away

[austere fable]

Don’t think that’s a tad overkill?

[boreal rose]

My god. Does Anni May have infinite freebie?

[bleak eagle]

its my prize for the abt 15 attempts ive done vs bruno

and still not beat him

[wicked pebble]

How does this look for this week?

[bleak eagle]

[boreal rose]

I hope i didnt fuck it up accident

Cuz it was a bit too easy

[bleak eagle]

go fuck*ng damnit, blue dies as soon as bruno syncs

maybe i need to debuff him instead of rushing, cuz using elesa i couldn't kill him

[wicked pebble]

Um...?

[bleak eagle]

im doin 10k just cuz i ant to ex ss red

but this is getting on my nerves

i dont rmb blue being this squishy

[austere quest]

Are you R2 with him?

[bleak eagle]

ye

[austere quest]

SS Blue?

[bleak eagle]

skyla, normal blue, someone

[austere quest]

Normal Blue doesn’t pair it down

[full mesa]

Does he die with max hp and +6 def?

[bleak eagle]

yes

[austere quest]

The Pidgeot Blue?

[bleak eagle]

bruno does 600+ on sync

[bleak eagle]

yes

[full mesa]

Then try Skyla/Blue/Sabrina and use reflect before their sync.

Cut the damage even further.

[austere quest]

Pidgeot is fragile af

[bleak eagle]

believe me, i noticed

[austere quest]

Skyla with 4 in themes might help a bit

You could probably also offtype depending on sync pairs

[bleak eagle]

ig i could, but lemme try it again ith sabrina

i think my double u key just broke, this day's getting orse huh

[austere quest]

I hate when days get orse

[full mesa]

Ping me if we have results.

[bleak eagle]

But i swear, i rlly didnt remember pidgeot blue being this squishy

[full mesa]

He is.

Now onto the next one.

[simple storm]

who would be better for a 2v3, 1/5 pal marnie or 2/5 alola grimslet

or solgaleo

r1 btw

[cinder coyote]

Lorelei F2P

I’ve been trying for ages

[austere quest]

What on type do we have?

[austere quest]

Units?

[simple storm]

u got brendan?

[cinder coyote]

Yeah

And it’s round 4, so extra effects from attacks

[simple storm]

what move level is brendan

[austere quest]

Brendan with Rosa Support EX should be pretty okay shouldn’t it?

[simple storm]

yeah

and sun depending on move level

[bleak eagle]

My entire run depended on cold snap 2

[cinder coyote]

Brendan is MV1

[bleak eagle]

But when the cold snap hits, it hits

Done with 10k, got my 20th ex too

Nvm i cant count, but 18 is still cool

[cinder coyote]

He’s move level 1

[simple storm]

well u can try brendan with a support ex

and 1 tank

[prime warren]

What water team do people run nowadays?

I am using archie, may, Giocat but it feels lackluster on offtype....like worse performance than my other offtype teams

Tried Cyrus but I don't have a good support and Roxanne dies early

[simple storm]

for offtyping u really need a support ex

its the most important piece

[prime warren]

Not may sync?

[simple storm]

nono

ex support is way better

maybe u do archie/cyrus/ex support

cyrus pumps out way more dps

[prime warren]

Don't have Kris to set rain again

[simple storm]

ex support needs to be a good one tho

[prime warren]

[simple storm]

how long does rain last with archie 2 sync?

[prime warren]

1st sync and then one rotation

[simple storm]

ah

may works too then

just dish out aoe

lmao

but yeah exsupport

is needed

[prime warren]

It feels too pepega
Compared to my other teams, that's why I asked

So sync with Giocat

[simple storm]

if he is ex yes

[prime warren]

He is ex

Else he can't tank

[simple storm]

yeah

true

well try gio sync then either archie or may

archie is ex?

or may

[prime warren]

They both are ex

[simple storm]

move level?

[prime warren]

I'll may sync then

5/5 may, 1/5 Archie

....

[simple storm]

may sync 100%

[prime warren]

Should I candy Archie for rain and run Cyrus?

[simple storm]

if it crits u might be fine

[simple storm]

nahhh

[prime warren]

[simple storm]

may 5/5 ex works

try it first

still trynna do flying 2v3 why did it have to be bruno

[prime warren]

Nvm it still feels pepega

It clears the stage but like so scuffed at doing it

[simple storm]

if it clears it clears

[prime warren]

Smh

[simple storm]

im still trynna do 2v3 ontypes

[prime warren]

[simple storm]

its way more fun than 3v3's

[prime warren]

Oh that, I think I did 2v3 offtype months ago

[simple storm]

im missing ice flying stage and rock champ

2v3 offtype is way easier than on type

[prime warren]

Still easier than ontype flying

Ye

[simple storm]

just slam psychic twice

or zerena

or ash

or red

or ss lyra

or ssa cynthia with any fighting

its not hard

[sharp totem]

lance is definitely the hardest for me

still cleared 8k tho

[simple storm]

lance is kinda tough

i did it with pal marnie and ho oh

[trail smelt]

I was actually surprised at how tanky Agatha and Lance were, though I chalked that up to my more defensive parameters and teams. Still one and done tho

[sharp totem]

iron heads scare me

[wicked pebble]

So... any input on my teams? I can grab them again if needed.

[zealous karma]

I didn’t see so ye

[bright furnace]

@zealous karma

Looks fine

Bruno has impervious

Leer won’t be as useful

[quaint solar]

Anyone has this week order of champion Stadium?

[zealous karma]

Oh thanks and ye should be fine

[mellow linden]

Only real “requirement” is avoid Agatha and maybe Lorelei on Round 3

[summer flare]

I think this is the first time I do a full on type CSmm 10k

[sharp totem]

im gettin real close to 2k lorelei

been usin aaron for defense order

havin trouble living rock slide and icy wind after lapras faints

[summer flare]

My 2k was a bit unfair because I had SS lyra

[sharp totem]

makes sense

[summer flare]

With permanent terrain and sun, SS Erika elbow dropped the stage, while lyra froze everyone in place

[sharp totem]

i got normal lyra and 6k* rosa but not sure how helpful they'll be

yeah i had to use permanent terrain for bruno

needed reflect and move gauge acceleration to be there to clear

[summer flare]

Beating the sides first isn't really helpful for this stage, is it?

[zealous karma]

Replace Aaron with another grass striker Morty already buffs defenses with his Tm

[steel kelp]

Kill the middle

Always middle

[sharp totem]

i have been goin middle

only other grass strikers are brendan and selene

[violet timber]

Might be because EX and 5/5 but I managed to 2v3 Lorelei with SS Morty 3/5 EX (didn’t sync with him) and 5/5 ex SS erika

erika is really broken

Nvm I did sync with morty

idk why I thought I didn’t

[sharp totem]

imma try usin sunny day with morty first, been doin erika

[violet timber]

oh and round 1 is best

for that

cuz you can just set sun once and go

[sharp totem]

yeah that worked lmao

[violet timber]

congrats

next week? Doubting Kris team as she’s not EX

looker team is also a bit concerning as both pairs are 1/5

[sharp totem]

is there a benefit to not usin 3 on a team

[subtle forge]

No

It’s just to challenge themselves

[sharp totem]

water is next week right?

cyrus good enough for that or should i bring may?

[subtle forge]

Bringing both would be great actually

[sharp totem]

oh yeah

forgot

debating making her my next EX

i went with blue this week since i needed him to 2k bruno

also my only flying striker (zinnia's there too but i'll prolly wait on her once her event comes back)

actually yeah might EX may then, gonna need cyrus for lance

this should be good enough right?

blue's always overkill

can also use persian giovanni in place of aaron

[trail smelt]

No kill like overkill

Oh wait you’re not using SSAynthia for Lorelei?

[simple storm]

Has anyone done 2v3’s need some guidance

[toxic cobalt]

There have been a few 2v3s

[simple storm]

Who can i pair with seteven

Anni steven

[subtle forge]

Tech farfetch’d and Eevee are good partners

Or just Eevee if this is 2v3

Although Eevee is weak to fighting so maybe not the best

[simple storm]

yeah thats the main issue

Others can be, aaron ex, sonia ex, lucario ex, falkner ex, kiawe ex, elio ex, skyla ex and hop

[subtle forge]

Aaron could be nice