#Champion Stadium
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Yep. Must be a big change.
But main story is silly, they don't really challenge you enough to learn the game. Ik a friend that's too casual, he just auto-optimized his whole way through it.
I usually have to do the challenging stuff for him
😂
I had the same reaction when I faced Johto for the very first time. It was right after 5 weeks of Sinnoh. The Horror...
Yes auto is way too easy even on events
That's basically it, the rest of the game doesn't really challenge you like how csmm does, and on a regular basis too
I blasted through the main story and LA with SSKantrio.
But MM needs a bit of effort.
Yeah, a lot of people do this and then get stuck on CS simply because they need 5 teams.
Yeah that's what I am saying, it's only CSMM that makes you want to be very optimal. Well and solo BV
Well, LG takes you to the utter limit if you play it competitively and actually reward you for that unlike csmm that even though you could do a 21.5k run, it doesn't reward you past 10k
Not if you follow the Skyla/Cyrus/Sycamore team.
4500 MM is pretty simple needing not much grids gives most things needed
Still need to be optimal, if you don't understand it you won't solo it
Yeah. 4.2k is just hard mode 2.
I always tell new players they shouldn't solo BV though
Unlike CSMM it doesn't actually get you anything
Ye I like that 900 points is easy with minimal grids
They Don't want people maxing out the Points are crying for inability to get everything
only when going for 1500 you need some
Medal, then never need to solo it again
Yeah, but for one thing, it's relatively recent in comparison, for 2 csmm is on a much more regular basis
7.5k+ is the real MM.
not like anyone needs anything above 4.5k its just for fun mostly
But I want my bp😭
Me: give me all them theme boosters
revamp CS to be like LG where you have to streak in row
Bruhhh
Exactly that.
No
Isn't that...what we do?
That extra spirits are still fine with the amount of 5* put they're giving for free from trainer lodge
My biggest wish is still ribbons for clearing CS
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Although, I agree with a idea that exists here. The 10k reward must change to something more "valuable".
adding some candy coins
We hear you loud and clear
adding 10 
Still better than 15 BP.
Candy coins 
40
per weak is too good.
Dreamy don't you give them ideas now
they usually listen to my feedback
One extra coin. Still better.
Never one too many
They could have one yellow for 10k
Pretty simple, add 12.5k, move all rewards from above 7.5k, put the new lvl up item on 12.5k and 10k milestones and then it will be worth reaching those
They probably just don't want to pressure the silent majority to feel like they need to do 10k
Rather not have 12.5k
One yellow candy every 4-5 months. Meaning 2-3 per year. I think it's ok.
if 10k had relevant rewards, we'd have waves of panicked people
We're all grinding LG nowadays anyway apparently, given LA is permanent now
the better content
I can't grind LG yet. Maximum I can reach 12 streak.
CS is so 2020
That's fine, you only need 10. 10 is the LG 4.2k 
Isn't it 12?
Nope
yep 10
Ten
Technically it is infinite since you can farm infinite 5* put which is way too good
.... I need to make some adjustments to my teams...
Well, not infinite yet
Easiest?
Latios, Entei and Bulu gauntlet when
With Azelf and Cobalion who only needs para?
yeah #1012311116778586182
Azelf doesn't need para
and Latios has 60 solos to his name with videos he's litteraly a hitting dummy
also we're off topic here lol we can swap
Then I really needs to up my game and knowledge.
Don't worry, there is always a dedicated thread to cheat your way through with 
5250 points done 👍

Nice!
Yes
Send us your roster.
You could 2k easily with Pidgeot, Mewtwo, Pikachu, Kyogre and deoxys, you can go for a 10k
Pikachu, Kyogre and deoxys doesn't need to be gridded, Pidgeot can't say since I use it 3/5
And my kyogre and deoxys are grided
•Deoxys/Fat pig/Roxanne -> R2 Vs Ghost weak.
Kyogre/Palkia/Skyla can be an off-type team.
AshEx/EleSSa/Filler is another power off-type team.
SSLeaf/Janine/Dawn or BPMorty can poison stall water weak.
Here are some ideas.
For Flying weak keep the same team but switch out Skyla for something that heals and gives def buffs
Even better.
Any idea
My ss blue is also 6*ex
Even better
Is 1/5 ss Brendan good
Can be a wall for a Gio/Latios/Speed buffer team against Ghost weak and use the SSteven team somewhere else.
Am I able to do 10k points
Honestly, I think that it's too easy with your roster.
But their level is low right now
125-130 is more than enough.
I want 15 more champion spirits to 6* ex deoxys.
May i suggest:
1st - Grimsley: Sceptile, Groudon and Meganium
2nd - Marshal: Pidgeot, Rotom and Alakazam
3rd - Caitlin: Gigantamax Gengar, Mewtwo and BP Misdreavus
4th - Shauntal: Ash Pikachu, Kyogre and Blastoise
5th - Alder: Deoxys, Musharna and Probopass
A big question which parameters should I use
First team seams too frail.
Try with post sync parameters first.
It's easier.
if post sync then forget the first team
as far as i know, snarl is special which is the only theat to the team
But the team might pre-sync even with post-sync parameters.
Snarl isn't a threat though as Brendan should have Dauntless
I suffer from move gauge problems
Which team?
is grimsley a good choice for 10k r1?
the threat is mainly for groudon which might want that se up
if i did an ssmorty may and someone else sun team?
Sure. The important question is who you Round 2.
and silver without meganium or something to boost him doesnt seem as good
He boosts himself with TM and Skyla gives speed on everyone.
Whom should I r2
i thought i might do ssblueEX ash and an ET setter on caitlin
What's is R2 field effect again?
i dont use silver, but this doesnt seem good enough
Guess 
Hmma ctually Caitlin may be spatk this week
In 3 turns max att/spa/crit/eva with grid.
i said caitlin cause i did her hard mode with just ssblueEX and ash
She hits a bit hard on spa sid.e
then i guess it is
Ah. Use those two then and throw in Misty.
misty? not an et setter?
which misty
Both might work. If misty, then you survive their sync. If et setter, you try to bmove right before they sync.
ahh i see
though for grimsley right now, does an ssmorty + may team sound good? idk who i'd have in third slot but i could also replace may with redzard
i don't have any good grass strikers i think
Sad Brendan noises
but i do have my stall team i used for hard mode
wait i have him i nvm
i have ssleaf dawn janine tho
will that work for 2k stall?
with who?
And Viola has Struggle Bug too
the whiplash from Kanto -> Sinnoh -> Johto was much bigger imo 
my biggest wish is being able to reset hard mode CS so I can unlock Master Mode in a week but I can only dream
my other wish is having a better 10k reward than 10 BP. even
will do. but I guess that's a bit unfair to those who can't reach 10k yet
finally did grimsley even though i had to reduce 500 points, now off to alder and see if i can get at least 14k points
seems i couldve gone for something like 14.5k but i was already tired from the 2nd and 4th round
With this team i completed 1500 points
since blue is 5/5 id like to suggest to do 2k
Whom should I choose for R2
can you show the teams youll be using
well, i expected you to have teams prepared already, but since you dont have them ill suggest going for caitlin since allister does a ton of dmg and it should be able to deal with the halved sync countdown
Alister/SSBrendan/Mewtwo is a good R2 combo.
Nice. Aim for 1.5k on every stage unless you feel extra confident.
How's this for Alder?
more than enough for 2k
Any suggested parameters?
Standard pre-sync
I see.
I wanna try 10king this week.
But I doubt Shauntal will be easy.
I don't have much Ice strikere TBH.
Candice
you can always offtype
How about Candice instead of Jasmine?
Yeah, but I just did it according to my intuition.
Can I see?
My build is kinda different, though it's up to you if it works
I'm open to see what you had.
I don't need Heavy Hail?
From a first look into next week, I might go full auto apart from bug weak.
I'm kinda grateful I didn't sleep on SC Emmet
Best I can do is just Bugsy lmao
Noland might be my next best bet, but ehhhhh
Anyways, I managed to do 7.5k, but...
I might wanna try go further beyond.
But I guess I'll just prepare for next week.
Maybe this or something.
Could try both bugsy and Noland together with aaron
Oooohhhhhh
Though there would be some sync competition
Oh true...
Still two dps and since they have both 2 gauge moves
I guess Noland
noland can still do dmg without mega thanks to fury swipes
Oh yeahhhh
Right...
you could go for lusamine since you got vespiquen
Oh yeah that's a great recommend
Lusamine and either Noland or bugsy for nuke
Have run that team personally as well with bugsy
Noland would be better i guess
stares directly at team 6
Team 6 should be used to beat one stage
🤣 Fuck off all of you
what's drake doing in team 5
Theme skill
I know that I could replace him for someone better, but Zerena will just destroy Iris
Depending on round Parameters I might be willing to do 1v3 next week 
drake is pretty slow though, I think he's gonna hinder your gauge
I mean, he has his TM
Team 4 is where poor Ash gets less work than Red
only 2 uses is barely enough compared to how slow he is imo. unless you want to rely on his TM MPR
Any reason to use Bianca over Latias?
Because I don't have?
I didn't even play during Anni May's banner
just unlocked master mode... is it possible to get high points with only lv 120s?
That would depend on your units
Level 120 is sufficient for most content. If you're new to Master Mode it's generally recommended to start with 850 points per stage (4250 total) rather than shoot straight for 2k per stage (10k total)
oh i see, thank you
No problem
Ah I see
But they are comparale, right?
Depends who they're paired with
I have exact team but with May for Marshall
Bianca can serve as tank
Animay perfect for Giovanni. Bianca may be better for SS Lusamine.
Well I have Sabrina too but isnt't Zam Glassy?
Anni May can debuff Sp. Atk.
No
no
Which Emmet?
The costume one
Presumably this is for next week?
For this week I used Steoxys Skyla support and May
I kinda wanna EX my Olivia for rock-weak stages
Not sure if she's good enough without EX
Definitely
yes x2
check the pinned ones
Either follow the parameters in pinned or pick your own
it's the most accessible atm
I always mostly pick my own
if you're running debuffers, you can remove no stat reduction and add max hp 2 usually
depending on the team
but yours should be able to do 10k presync
you got it!
Parameters for Ice Obama team?
Since I have Kyurem there
Max HP
ice obama
I wonder what will be the CS when Unova VA comes out
Gonna be Sinnoh fr
That was a tautological statement from me 😂😅
Still gonna wait for my Kalos and Galar CS 
this is as far as i got toxic stalling grimsley. he has gradual healing which is annoying so i die before sides which kill of course
you don't have offensive Grass pairs like SS Erika or Brendan?
tbh even a SS Leaf buffed should work
or in last resort, gridded Sun Gardenia
i have them and ss leaf so what team would you recommend?
this is 10k btw
Yeah don't use dawn
she's not good
I advised viola
But also yes just use Brendan if he has dauntless
iff
Brendan would likely need some speed buffing for Ramming Speed nah?
i can't recall if he buffs it
Ah, didn’t realize he had that
she's worse
Probably then, though maybe not since SS Erika would also be dealing a bunch of damage
Well, she's not, but I'd have to see the footage
i ran out of all my cookies
attempting that
Okay no brendan then
You could at least use Silver against Grimsley
that's not my screenshot
SS Erika striking?
Wrong reply

SS Erika at 1/5 should massacre grass weak even at 2k tbh
her solar blade is so stupid strong
Slap Lyra as the 3rd team member and you’ve got something going
SS Morty, SS Erika or Silver and another unit
Kinda
Could do SS Morty + SS Erika + Lyra
yeah SS Morty has an incredible gauge
He can give +1 all stats, +2 if you give Team Gimme Five
SS Morty is the tank, Lyra gives offensive buffs, SS Erika deals damage
ive never used lyra but ill give that a shot
Go for it. lyra in sun is great buffs.
I've used Lyra most of the time
She can max out both offensive stats under sun with MP refresh
Have those unit+hooh and Morty 3*
What team and modifier against grimsly cant seems to beat him 2k
Check the pin for the recommended modifiers, or you can choose your own modifiers
My struggle is mostly the team
What round are you doing Grimsley?
3rd and can do 4th too I guess
Does Brendan have Dauntless?
Maxie Solar Beam with a buffer tank to ramp up him faster and paired with Silver as well is an idea
Otherwise you have the Brendan safe option
Maxie Silver dual solar beam should work yeah
Pew pew
No couldn't get it
So to pair them with morty or u have better option?
SS Morty?
Yes
Yea have 3 copies
wowzers yeah if you wanna overkill it Maxie SS Morty and Silver i mean
they will stomp it
hard
*3K 
i even argue that throwing SS Morty there might be a waste, but probably not that important
Morty can also fully buff both defensive stats
Lol I'm not that good
And I'm referring to both SS and BP Morty
Roxanne plan a go? 
lol you can try Roxanne yeah first and assess later
Roxanne 1) buffs def 2) buffs spatk 3) triggers Maxie
both maxie and silver buff their crit too
I'm guessing I'm goin on post sync modifier?
Lol thanks
presync should work
Easy presync
did you use the presync one?
YES DREAMY I USED YOUR SUPER SPECIAL STRENGTH PRESYNCCCC
figures, Roxanne didn't die after all!

K thanks hope I'll get it
My girl has endurance she would never die
May you get double 5* on your wishes
She should be grided? Or not critical
Not critical but in general a great unit to consider gridding
That run used an ungridded maxie btw so if yours is gridded it'll go even better
It was pretty close but I managed to win 2nd try, tysm now good luck to me on ice 🙂

i used the same team, ez sweep
That's the team I recommend to most players. But I use Skyla instead of Roxane.
Prepared for next week
https://streamable.com/ktl04n
He’s so good 🦑
I hope it’s not to late but most grass units can pre sync but it hardly matters if you win
Be so strong that you presync with post sync setup
how do I build around ghetsis? for ice week shauntal round 3, specifically. should I primarily focus on accelerating spatk+crit buffs with a unit like giovanni persian?
Yes, and depending on how you build Ghetsis he appreciates someone who can paralyze or freeze
I ended up running pryce ghetsis sycamore, pryce for speed drops and extra damage, sycamore for bulk and geomancy and ghetsis with a sync nuke build for dps and it worked fantastically
very affordable team and I highly recommend it
What does Pre/Post sync mean for the recommended points?
pre-sync builds try and defeat the opponent before they use their sync move and are more difficult to survive against long term, but slightly easier to kill quickly. post-sync is much easier to survive against for longer.
I see interesting, thanks!
What team can I use for round 3 marshal? No Anni Skyla, only Blue and Leon as flying strikers
medal unlocked
but master mode is so scary please help me build 2k mm teams/strategy or are they the same 
or @sick inlet if you are available to help 
Leon just needs help buffing SpAtt and Crit a little. Do you have Sabrina, SS Elesa, SS Brendan, SS Kris, Falkner, Persian? esp if Ex'd?
You can use more optimal teams in MM because you don't have to worry about filling a medal
Of those I have Sabrina SS Elesa and SS Kris all 3+/5 and EX
Send roster lets see what we do.
We will stick with pin parameters for most part
I think any of those 3 would work tbh. If you dont need SS Kris elsewhere, her + Leon can definitely kill Marshal. For the third, you can use someone that buffs Def, debuffs SpDef, and/or increases Speed
Should I go R1 against Caitlen for the 10k?
I sort of am low on Physical Attackers who can Mutlitarget
I might have access to SST Red actually
what field parameter are you planning to set against Caitlyn? (that's R1 right?)
Not sure, was just using the Standard one provided in pins
Not going to use Stall because I don’t think I have a good enough team comp for that
Caitlin is weak against Ghost, so unless you have SSR Cynthia, I think you should do her in another round
Mewtwo is the f2p go-to against Ghost weak
I think I might be able to do it with a SST Red Electric Terrain Team but I need to finish her off before the second sync
oh I see. then R1 makes sense
Yeah, I managed to do it on R2 actually
Just had to twerk to allow stat reduction and status
Became really smooth, letting me tank Sync 1 and then kill before Sync 2
Unfortunately hitting a wall against Grimsley so I will need to try to figure that out next
Skyla? I have her 3/5 EX
tysm for the help btw Jo
hoping to presync if i can and also i think 1.5k should be ok to target since i know 2k is tough for beginners
Grass Weakness: Groudon, SSErika, Kiawe
Ghost Weakness: Mewtwo, Sycamore, Sonia
Ice Weak: Ash, Volkner, Leaf
Rest is Offtypes too anyways you can do either stages with this:
Deoxys(Striker), Skyla, Lucian
SSTRed, CElessa, probably anything.
I was trying to save SSMorty as a Trump* card for any team that struggles
You can swap any of the supports for Acynthia/SSmorty. They are just too good
Totally should try 1.5k first, make sure you change the no condition/no stats down when using SSTRed or a debuffer(only stats down)
ok got it
which params should i target with the teams? like are they suited for a certain set
SS Morty would be best in that sun team, but again I save it as trump card
Hmm I believe you can do all Pre-sync if you got down all the triple queue stuff
ok
As in you sync twice before they do
Otherwise go for post sync
Unova isn't too tough
ok
Are you thinking Leon/SS Kris/Skyla? THat can definitely win. You're buff basically everything, you have 2 support Ex's and 2 potion users. It's sort of overkill
I am facing gauge problems with this team
are you Ex'ing with SS Brendan?
No
Allister has FMN with his TM so he shouldn't take any gauge for his first 4 moves
If SS BRendan syncs, then every time he's hit, he gets a free Luster Purge
you don't have a way to increase Speed so that I can see having move gauge issues though
prob Pre-Sync. IF you Ex SS Brendan, I guarantee you'll win easily
you can do 2k if you Ex SS Brendan. Which round parameter are you doing this fight in?
Round 2
oo, tough round. Def recommend Ex'ing SS Brendan then since you don't get as many moves before enemy syncs
why is 7500 the suggestted breakpoint for master mode? Are the champion spirit generally not the bottleneck for exing units?
I am not able to defeat grimsley any team suggestions for 1500 points and parameters
Replace Rosa for Lyra
Since Maxie preemptively sets up sun, Lyra can just grant +4 to both stats immediately
Actually, both of them can mac out their offensive stats on their own. But use her for Light Screen and completing crit buff
And parameters
Try offensive with HP
Also, Lyra can grant speed buffs so that should help you kinda(?) manage your gauge
How come, you can do 2k with pikachu with a few supp
In case that doesn't end up working, would you mind showing me your units again?
I was trying status stall
And it works for 1500 points
congrats
Can I beat Grass weak 2k?
My Team is ssmorty1/5/ sserika
2/5 and scrosa 1/5
SC Rosa alone is more than capable
How? What would be the parameters?
Follow pinned or make your own
I tried it but wasnt able to yet
What round are you on? 2nd round might be more difficult
Also make sure to triple queue all the time
First time attempting Master Mode, any recommendations?
Let's start off with your damage dealers
want me to sort by strike unit?
No need
Grimsley: Brendan, SS Erika, Silver or SC Rosa
Shauntal: Ghetsis
Marshal: Blue/Pidgeot
Caitlin: Giovanni/Mewtwo or Allister
Alder: SC Hilda
May i suggest something better
Ok
i am open to all suggestions
I know i still need to work on quite a few sync grids, but just require the sync orbs to do so
Grimsley: Groudon, Leafeon and Meganium
Shauntal: Red Pikachu, Ash Pikachu and Blastoise
Marshal: Pidgeot, Rotom and Alakazam
Caitlin: Kyogre, Swampert and Primarina
Alder: Diancie (Havent checked this pokemon yet so i cant suggest teams with it but it is pretty good)
You'll have a lot of fun with this team
Well, I only suggested damage dealers you know
But I guess you made a full team
well, ghetsis takes a while to setup so i cant say its fun
ik, but i havent checked that mon yet so i can neither suggest a team with it and i already know how fun it is to play groudon `leafeon
I'll give those teams some runs in other events so i can get used to them
If all else fails, throw Archie at someone 
SC Rosa can debuff a ton of Sp. Def. on a single target, also can lower evasion to all enemies and gains damage bonus from lowered evasion. With 3/5, SC Rosa can practically do -3 Sp. Def. per Seed Flare
not sure if his is 3/5 but it sounds like without 3/5 it works more of a support
Mine is 3/5
Also, you have many good units underleved like your SC Rosa for example
I am aware of this, I've been using my energy on events lately to try and grind out rewards, next few days will be all into training books/codex's/blends and aim to get a few more units to 125
i checked his passive skills, you could try shaymin, staraptor (if 3/5, else i believe keldeo would be better) and something else
Why Darach unless you want to use him for debuffing attack?
it debuffs both atk, spe and eva, letting shaymin focus on debuffing spa and spd
Both what? You mentioned 3 stats
Or you meant to say atk. and evasion? Because Defog won't be enough to gain the full bonus
it has both defog to lower the opponents eva and feather dance to lower the opponents atk and spe, better?
Eh sure, apologies for being a correcty one. Just trying to make sure what you meant
alr
im sorry but where is the spe reduction?
in his grid
I'm guessing he's 1/5?
I mean your Darach is 1/5
Alright, so I've been trying 850 points elite for quite some time now and it's mostly been going fine.
Should I try to go further for more spirits?

Yes. Raise your cap to 1.5k.
Not really.
If you can do 850 without issues, it means that you can achieve 1.5k with a bit of trial and error.
Well, I sometimes have issues, but it usually goes okay.
Some clutches definitely happened.
How do I beat catlin
She is an esper so sucker punch her.
Can someone help me building 5 teams for my first 10k run?
Send your roster. Also have you ever try 7.5k alone?
Use Giovanni
Non-ex and non-mega Mewtwo needs powerful supports to complete that stage. Gio isn't a solution for everything.
For Caitlin?
I did 7,5k alome already
I still managed without his power boost and EX
Some very good units.
Just use Giovanni
That's what I said
I've shared my on-type Striker/Tech combo for each type not long ago, but I know it's not fool proof.
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As an update on that, Hala and Candice were pretty good this week. Although I'd need a Speed raising support for Hala.
Hala doesn't want speed, he wants mga. Very weird unit.
Archie/May/Roxanne -> Shauntal.
SSACynthia/Gio/Rosa -> Caitlin.
Skyla/Blue/Sabrina -> Marshal.
Dawn/SSMorty/SSErika -> Grimsley.
Every Ice type move of his reduces his speed. But apparently, you shouldn't worry?
That's for the first 4. You can use double Pikachu and Volkner for an off type team (mostly champion).
He gains damage boost when you lower his speed. Besides, his speed stat in the first place isn't even good
That's why it's 126
Alright thank you I try it
Post sync is my best bet right?
No
Also Fat Pig/Deoxys/Speed user is another of type teams.
Yes, since you're trying for first time. If it doesn't work then switch to pre-sync. Also I haven't list the order. I leave that up to you.
Does the order matter?
Yes, especially round 2
Half sync parameters is probably the most dangerous round parameter
Who else should I bring?
Oh okay thank you, i comepletely ignired those parameters until now... Thank you!
Wait a minute
What are you asking for?
Who else should I bring for Caitlin ?
We don't know your roster.
Oh, then yeah, Sabrina (Alakazam)/Giovanni (Mewtwo) and someone to boost Sp. Def.
Ok
Hows this for next week? Ignore the levels i will do them Later
3 months???
https://www.reddit.com/r/PokemonMasters/comments/xes5zd/after_3_months_of_playing_i_finally_did_10k_csmm/
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It's possible within the first few weeks if you're selective about your unit builds
Sure, unless youw ant to find a better water striker
Next week cs team suggestions
Bug-> SSteven/Bianca/SSBlueEx.
Water-> Archie/Cyrus-May/Roxanne.
Dragon-> ZinniaMRayEx/Skyla/SSBrendan.
Fire-> Maxie/Silver/Sonia.
Elec-> Ash/Viola/Hop.
Why viola
Lower their spa and work as a tank. Unless she is weak against elec. Then switch her out for any other tank.
Literally Ash doesn't need help.
Am I able to do 10k points next week
Well, I built those teams with 10k in mind. That is if you have unlock the MM.
After y’all helped me and I crushed last week Im looking to repeat a win this week. My roster is here: https://imgur.com/a/kQaxbsi I attached a screenshot of the teams I was thinking of using for each. Just to note I need to clear with normal grass dragon and psychic this time around.
I tried to read the fight descriptions and then build the teams for it
So for the one where terrain is permanent I put red
Physical I tried to find a physical attacker for it
I don’t have pairs that are leveled for some of the types thus me using ash in one
I’m kind of bumbling my way through lol
Ash will blast through anything lol
Alright, that's pretty good on the field parameter side.
The place to improve I would say is in team composition. Generally, we try to pick one striker, and then get it to +3 crit and +6 of atk or spatk.
do u think non EX cyrus can clear the next champion in cs (im doing 2v3)
Then if you have spare slots, you can put other pairs like good tanks, healers, flinchers, weather setters, etc. as needed
Alright I’ll go back and mess with them again. Appreciate it!

You'll clear hard mode easily and I think with those units can make a decent start on CSMM.
F2P team 🙂 (everything nowadays can off type, I hope we get a new mode .-.)
Please remember to post clears in #1010274591601598555
That's not a f2p team though 
Not a single f2p unit
It's "Fare to Play"
He paid a lot for the opportunity to play the game.
F2P pairs are pairs that doesn't require gems to get...oh right, are 3* 4* gacha filler units consider as f2p as well?
I go max 3* usually, but in Sinnoh I add 4* gacha, technically not F2P but easy to get
Yep i think they might can be considered f2p right? Especially if people that never spends also got the free x100 pulls from run up to anniv and run up to half anniv
yes correct
and you also got Victory road too
ticket ones can be also called F2P friendly like Volkner
But can only get 1 of the sskantrio from victory road
And not all people pick the same one
yes people seem to love Red more than Blue
Im happy that doing lodge awards some pairs, also talking about lodge pairs...i guess some of them are not f2p friendly as well like Marnie, Cynthia, N are limited units
well one was given free in a choice but I would probably not use in my F2P runs
Rosa, Blue, etc. pairs I would use
Good luck resetting and doing it again for the last reward
It happened it me twice before:(
Was gonna say, that reward is really minor
It's not hard to run 5 CSMM stages if you have good unit
Very little reason to bother unless you’re trying to nab every bit of BP
It's not about the bp for me, it's about seeing that sweet 10k. Maybe if I feel the urge I'll try this weekend
Do it if its easy
And this week feels kinda easy for me
It'll prolly only take you 5-10mins to re-clear it anyway
True

Who can I pair with non-EX Hala? Or non-EX Lusamine Blizzard? Or new Froslass? I have Sabrina SS Elesa OG Red OG Leaf Hilbert SS Blue all 3+/5 and EX
I have no holiday pairs or Pal Bea
I personally use hala with ssblue and a leer unit like bpscyther
I EXed SsBlue tho. And Hala didn need to use his sync to do aoe dmg.
Assuming an ice weak stage
Yeah I’m asking about Round 4 Shantal

Pre sync or post?
I think I managed to smack the mid presync
But I did it as the 1st fight
To be more precise, I killed the mid off on the turn it queued its sync move
I managed to kill mid presync but I couldn’t survive the earthquakes after
Finally did it
Needed Alder to miss his Hyper Beams especially since he KO’d my starting Mon with back to back Hyper Beams.
Was really close but glad I could clutch it out
I am excited for next week since hopefully I have a better grasp on the game at this point
Was hala able to deny the middle of the sync and deny either side of a hit?
I killed the mid presync and used hala sync second to kill one side but the other spammed nonstop earthquakes and he only survived one with endure before dying to the second
I am F2P player... So its F2P team 
r u sure abt sonia, she doesnt buff my spatk
im trying sabrina instead
Sonia buffs Defense and offers Potion. Sycamore will max Sp. Atk., Sp. Def., and Speed with his Sync
And if Sonia is 3/5 she’ll also buff crit
ok passed w sabrina
F2p means non gatcha units
Yeah, an f2p team is a team comprised only of Sync Pairs who can be obtained from events/story/Legendary Adventures (with some additional restrictions depending on who you ask; some people might say SS Blue counts as f2p due to Victory Road, others might say the event freebies don’t count due to being time-limited, etc.)
4 Master Fairs, 2 Poke Fairs, and 3 general pools definitely mean that none of those teams are f2p teams
Sonia was there to buff Defenses if you need, Xerneas should buff full Sp.atk and spdef and speed
And potion
Because why not
oh i see
Is there a good team for Shauntal? I need to use ice for the medal.
These are all the ice types I have.
You wanna run Ghetsis, Hala, or Candice as your damage-dealer?
And these are the types I have left I need.
I was thinking Ghetsis if he is doable for it. But I'm not sure how to build a team around him.
You have Sabrina?
Yes
Ghetsis + Sabrina + a 3rd team member (if you have a Support that buffs Sp. Def. they’d be ideal). Ghetsis uses Noble Roar on center 3 times (make sure you have the Double Drop tile from his grid), Sabrina uses her Trainer Move on Ghetsis twice and Dire Hit All twice (if she doesn’t have her Critical Squad tile Ghetsis will need to use his Trainer Move once), then Ghetsis spams Glaciate and Syncs as needed
If Sabrina has EX she does 1st Sync
Is she good to ex? I can ex her.
She’s a good EX option, but you won’t need to EX her yet. Depending on your roster and who your favorites are you might have someone who’s higher priority for EX
Since it’s Hard Mode Ghetsis can destroy this fight
Can you by chance send the grid for ghetsis and Sabrina? Stuck on mobile and that doc sometimes crashes my phone with masters running.
Oh ghetsis is gridded already
Thanks!
Updates?
Who should I have be the first target? Sabrina or Marley?
So close to max stamina 
Wow, that is a lot. Make sure to use that on the numerous events
Thanks that is done. Can someone help with the flying one?
Just fairy now right?
Yeah
Sycamore + Blue + someone to buff Defense, probably
But depending on your roster there could be better options since Sycamore + Blue would have to wait until 2nd Sync to start dealing big damage
These are my flying types
Oh, most likely Sycamore + Lysandre + Skyla then, but gimme a sec to make sure
Yeah
Sycamore does 1st Sync, Lysandre uses his Trainer Move twice at the start of the fight, Skyla buffs Defense and heals as needed, Oblivion Wing everything. If you’d prefer to save Skyla for later you can use anyone who buffs Defense in her place
Well I only have the final rock one left after this, and I was going to do Hilbert, Bertha, and Olivia to beat that.
That’s an excellent team for Alder, yeah. Feel free to go with Skyla here then
Should I change target order?
That’ll be fine. Skyla and Sycamore can both be tanks, so unless you’re doing Horn Leech strats (which is more a thing for the Sycamore + Hop duo) it’s not gonna matter much, especially on Hard Mode
Congrats!
Is Shantal viable for offtyping?
Silver/Anni N/SS Morty or toxic stall?
idk why i thought this team would work for 2k, it was suggested and i was told it would destroy
nope!
somebody help please?
even my stall team did better than this just died to sides. and i was told it was terrible lol
Wait, why did you use SS Erika's Trainer Move?
Parameters?
pre-sync, i was told it didn't matter
How are you on a seven counter at the time of their sync?
i don't know, i was able to sync twice tho
- try post-Sync, it's a lot less demanding, 2) again, why did you use SS Erika's Trainer Move? She doesn't need to do anything other than damage/maybe turn 1 Sunny Day if you'd prefer to have all buffs ready by your 1st Sync
Solar Propulsion
Better than what I had in mind
Also morty needed to use two potions in that time?
yeah liquidation took out half his health before sync
Yeah, gonna recommend giving post-Sync a shot
IMO post-Sync is a much friendlier parameter set (heck, I've even pre-Synced using post-Sync parameters sometimes)
i coooould build barry but i may be lazy
ah well, doesnt matter that much, i have a bunch of offtype teams too
all of them are ungridded btw
i beat 'em all up, 7.5k clear, now i need to do 2&
Oh, well no wonder you had issues. While move level isn't super important, using the grid tiles you have available absolutely is
Beautiful. Same teams still kinda should do the trick
What move levels are they?
Grab all the available stuff then, stats are always helpful
SS Erika should ideally not even need to touch her Trainer Move; Lyra and SS Morty can cover all buffs themselves, so she can focus on spamming Solar Blade
If you'd like to have SS Morty focus on his Trainer Move instead of starting with Sunny Day you can have SS Erika use it turn 1 before going to Solar Blade
Sun needs to set before Morty and Lyra start buffing~
wdym by that?
oh grids im a dumbass
Even at 1/5 you have extra stats and move base power (and oftentimes some other nice things) in the grid tiles
No, get all the grid tiles. She doesn't need to use her Trainer Move, is what I'm saying
Her Trainer move buffs her Attack + crit and give her gradual healing. SS Morty + Lyra buff both those stats for her, and SS Morty provides a good bit of healing himself
So SS Erika only needs to worry about Solar Blade, her Sync, and maybe Sunny Day depending on how quickly you want SS Morty to start buffing via his Trainer move
At most she should only ever need to use it once
Hmmm
Might have to try a different damage-dealer or double damage-dealer comp (or just offtype depending on preference), because unfortunately I can't accurately test things to help figure out a better method with this team
What other Grass types do you have?
Put gear on
Oh, gear might help, yeah
i could offtype but..idk with who. i can ex someone right now but i want to save who i use
there's no good source of grass gear right now i think
it wouldn't really help
really?
As an extra option, if you can get Dauntless on Brendan (and evolve his Treecko) you could double damage-dealer with SS Morty and SS Erika. Erika would actually use her Trainer Move in this case
this good?
And yeah, off-type gear just means stats gained are halved. You still get stats
out of cookies
Unfortunate
U didnt grind them out?
Yes
I mean, you (presumably) have time now and the event is still going, so might be worth taking the time now and handling 2k tomorrow. Can try with what you have now if that's not an option though
the gear i mean
This is gonna sound real weird, but are you able to grid Gardenia?
It's fine if not, just trying to think of some out-of-the-box ideas before resorting to off-typing
You could also just EX Morty and call it a day
Oh, he isn't EXd
It's one of the best EX support to have in the game anyway that can support multiple teams
That is an option if you're willing to do it
Would almost certainly solve the issue
Otherwise yeah double dps with Gardenia / Eirika is a pretty good option
I was gonna suggest Gardenia as the only damage-dealer as a 100% "this is likely a dumb idea, but let's see what happens" plan, but smart use of Gardenia's Trainer Move could make up for lack of Sp. Atk. buffs
Even without full Sp.Atk buff she still do some sort of damage that could make him clear np
Fair
Also because Lyra in that team is not bad but SS Eirika + Morty set up super fast already
Might as well add another DPS to increase the overall team dps since Morty shouldn't have gauge problems
There's also silver which may just cut it
Oo, he’d probably work better than Gardenia with expanded grid
can sc rosa do offtype without grass terrain? I don't have ss lyra
She still can, her damage is more than capable enough to off-type 2k even with only 1/5
yeah that's probably the problem, you are supposed to drag it out a bit by whittling down the sides before sniping the mid just before it syncs
so, dmg the sides if the enemy sync cd isnt at 1. and queue to kill the mid when it is at one. then you will have an easier time killing the sides with 1-2 attacks each. (optimally, you are aiming to kill each of them with 1 attack)
I dunno if that’ll fly, mid had sync q’d up when I killed him
Any later he would have gotten it off
what can he do?
SS Morty? In addition to the standard Support EX he’s just really good at supporting multiple damage-dealers
What are the pre-sync parameters to be used for 2k CS?
Try the ones in the pins
Suggest a team to beat grimsley in unova challenge hard 1
Who are your sun setters?
What is sun setters?
The ones that have Sunny Day
unit that can set sun, either through moves or passives
Idk how to find that out
Filter ----> Known Moves ----> Field Effect Sunny
Yes, but make sure to upgrade them
Brendan is kinda like your best grass-type damage dealer, Silver needs someone to boost Sp. Atk. for him
What Pokemon is silver?
Do you have the lucky skill "Dauntless" on Brendan?
Ho-Oh
Besides, Silver only has 1 variant
RIP Silver fans
@next solar Do you have Dauntless on Brendan?
If not, then you use Silver with someone to buff Sp. Atk. for him
So, Silver/Blaine/Sp. Atk. buffer
Lyra & Meganium is a great support for Silver, but I didn't see her
Blaine?
Yes, Blaine to set up sun because Silver has multipliers when under sun
Will this work as sp.atk buffer?
I mean which Pokemon 🥲
Ponyta
Okay
Possible, I mean you're doing hard mode after all
he can buff his own sp atk on TM if he has the expanded grid 
Probably didn't play during Johto VA
worth a try. tank with her
Its my 3rd day in the game
See?
although Grimsley is mainly physical so I think Rosa can get ambushed
I mean it's still hard mode
Rosa can still withstand a few of Grimsley's hits
you need to level up more units if you want to complete all of champion stadium
I've beaten the other 3 already
oh good then
they meant the types that you've used
No, what I mean is how many types out of 18 have you completed on the medal?
yes
Exactly
there should be an "in progress" bar in the battle screen
Yes dragon i guess
Oh yeah, Rosa is better for Alder because she's specially bulky
I have saved Mewtwo's 20 star up cards too i thought he will be usefull but he isn't as strong
Not that Giovanni, the one with Persian
why? just use it on him
the Persian Giovanni, not the Mewtwo one
Is your Classic Giovanni/Persian 3/5?
Lemme see
Also, Classic Giovanni (Persian), Swimsuit Misty and Blue (Arcanine) events have ended
But did you at least get the units?
oh have they? I didn't realize
Yeah they have
I think I don't even have him

Oh RIP, you literally missed 1 free unit
a great support too
Maybe 3 if you haven't gotten Swimsuit Misty and Blue/Arcanine
@next solar Can you show your supports?
Sure
I think the Rosa/Blaine/Silver team will do fine
Right off the bat, I see literally uninvested Sycamore
then Sycamore/Hop/Giovanni for Alder, should be able to clear
get your Sycamore to 5/5
And you also have Aura Cynthia unless you've used her
I have used her
And also 3/5 Aaron
Ok
Him too
Can you tell their Pokemon names?
Oh ok
Xerneas, Zamazenta, Mewtwo
Sycamore (Xerneas), Hop (Zamazenta) and Giovanni (Mewtwo)
for Alder. But get Xerneas to 5/5
and grid him if you can. minimal grid is fine, get the Horn Leech Master Healer tiles
Which ones?
Get the copies of the unit
These ?
+legexchange
yes, but you need to get him to at least 3/5 to unlock the full grid
the shop gives you enough to get him to 5/5
Yeah I've done that
then the tiles here shouldn't be locked anymore
Can we see your shop?
The part on the legendary arc units exchange?
I've exchanged everything besides I exchanged those 20level up coupons for 2 of the ones which can be used in anyone
20 of 5
Not of rayquaza palkia and mewtwo
That's because you thought their EX can still be obtained
Yeah and I saw there's those things missing to upgrade them to ex
And they can't be obtained
Did you exchange the power up tickets for Xerneas, Zamazenta, Ho-Oh, Solgaleo and Kyurem?
Yeah
Oh no....
.......
You made the same mistake as me
Alright, focus, we’re on challenge mode now
Lol it's okay I got my fav Pokemon to ex
yes but sadly CS can't be steamrolled by one or two favorites
You need five favourites at least
those free legendary units gain a lot with their 20/20
Focus please
Ye
Ok, ok
Yeah, unit dupes can't at least be traded
are they done with Grimsley? is this on to Alder now?
The champion needs another Pokemon types too?
preferably, yes
I thought I can use anyonekf my choice on him
you can choose anyone, but preferably you use a type that you haven't used yet
so next week you don't have to fill in as much types
Wym?
That the ones i used on champion I can't use next week?
the goal for Hard Mode is to complete all 18 types of this
so next week you still need to use the remaining types you haven't used yet, to unlock Champion Stadium Master Mode
completing all 18 types requires at least 2 weeks. so if this week you use as many types as possible, next week you don't need to force yourself to use as many types
like, you don't have to carry too many underused and weak types
like poison
Okay so you mean I won't be able to use the ones ive used now on next week?
So I'm using this to beat grimsley now right? I need to level up xerneas
No, that's for Alder
What I recommend is Rosa (Serperior)/Silver (Ho-Oh)/Blaine (Ponyta)
Against Grimsley
Okay
You can. You're just not obligated to use that type anymore
It's no longer a necessity
The type weaknesses will rotate
Ive beaten them without weakness
And if you don't use any new types, you can't unlock Master Mode that week
Okay so i have one more week I'll level up others as well
Next week they'll come with different teams and different movesets. You might need to change some units, depending on the stage's gimmick. Although Unova is pretty easy
Currently I have 5 teams
Yup, so for now focus on beating Grimsley and then Alder
You have the rest of the week to level up others to 120
Why is this guy using soo much material to level up or is it just me?
Because legendary arc units are very expensive to upgrade
Will he be fine at 115?
Yeah


