Champion Stadium

[mellow linden]

Yeah, ideally you can find Dark and Ice supports that do a decent job of supporting a good damage-dealer rather than trying to do a multi-DPS comp

[toxic cobalt]

Nanu much better than Sydney as fill in dark type.

[obtuse hound]

don't got none

unless i don't know about them.

[mellow linden]

Can we see your roster? It’d help immensely at helping you make a team

[obtuse hound]

yes of course

[simple storm]

nanu?

[mellow linden]

Nanu would be a helpful pick depending on the damage-dealer, yeah

[obtuse hound]

oh yeah ive said this is my second account and didnt finish the main story

i can go and grab nanu real quick

[mellow linden]

Yeah, I’d recommend grabbing every freebie you can grab that you don’t already have

[obtuse hound]

of course i just need to finish cs

im one battle away and its saturday so

so ill grab who can win me this battle

[mellow linden]

Nanu + SS Erika + a random Ice type (Ghetsis could help by lowering enemy offenses) should be able to pull it off

[pulsar dove]

What’s next week champion stadium? Do we know yet?

[mellow linden]

Unova CS

You can check pins

[onyx ice]

Bugsy second sync was pretty good despite strength +7 (round 1)

[zealous karma]

Mine did the same amount with strength 12 odd

But with no Atk buffs

[onyx ice]

Strange

Was in bug zone?

[zealous karma]

No

But super effective up next from super victory

[mellow linden]

Probably why

[onyx ice]

This one has se up too

[mellow linden]

Ah, nvm then

[onyx ice]

Support ex 1st sync?

[zealous karma]

My bugsy was also 3*

[zealous karma]

SSB

[formal vigil]

Defence debuffs?

[zealous karma]

No

[mellow linden]

Oh, Support Sync is it

[onyx ice]

Mine was without 6ex sync

[zealous karma]

O

[onyx ice]

1st sync was bugsy too

[mellow linden]

Yeah, can see only the 1 Sync buff in the screenshot

[zealous karma]

I see

I need to 5* bugsy

[onyx ice]

Mine was 5* but not lv140

[zealous karma]

That’s really odd

[onyx ice]

Was lv138 so not a big difference

Who was the 3rd slot?

[zealous karma]

Lusamine

SSB lusamine bugsy

Mine was 3* 130

[onyx ice]

How much attack buffs bugsy had?

I guess at least +3 from fell stinger

[zealous karma]

0

I use twin needle

[onyx ice]

6ex support helps, but it's weird that 3* 0 attack does the same damage as 5* +6

[mellow linden]

With Support EX I can see it

[onyx ice]

But +6 attack is a big boost too

Sure you didn't got like +2 from SSB?

[mellow linden]

Eh, game is weird sometimes

[onyx ice]

Was second sync right?

[zealous karma]

Ye second sync

[zealous karma]

My bugsy only got Spatk buffs lol

[onyx ice]

Wait, but was round 2?

[zealous karma]

No round one

Since I EX’d sonia here is with +6 Atk super victory and since sonia has debuffs those lel

[formal vigil]

[zealous karma]

That’s very odd tho

Why such a large difference

[onyx ice]

This makes sense that is higher because is post 6ex support with some def debuffs

[mellow linden]

Wait, that’s only +4 Attack

[zealous karma]

No tm MPr Ecks dee

[onyx ice]

6ex support offsets +4 attack

[mellow linden]

Oh, hang on

[obtuse hound]

alr, i'll give it a shit

shot

i always do that..

[mellow linden]

Super Powered 3 is more damage than Critical Strike 2, technically

So that also helps explain the disparity

[onyx ice]

But not much more

150% vs 140% factoring blind spot and base cs2

[mellow linden]

Yeah, but it helps zero in on how things are interacting to cause it

Every clue helps

[onyx ice]

Probably you got a max damage roll

[mellow linden]

That could also be it

As one of multiple factors

[zealous karma]

I see

[obtuse hound]

2 questions:

1. should any of them be gridded (besides ghetsis he already is)
2. which parameter?

[mellow linden]

Stat lowering effects is probably the best parameter. Grids shouldn’t be required, but if you aren’t able to do it without them you can try grabbing some tiles

[obtuse hound]

alright thank you!

[obtuse hound]

they make you reset master mode?!

i have TWO DAYS!

no LESS THAN THAT

um how many points do y'all recommend? 😅

[toxic cobalt]

850 each

Can use the ones in the pins

[obtuse hound]

beginner points okay

[toxic cobalt]

I wont criticise greater ambition!

[rigid flint]

Oh man I need a better steel type dps

I'm still using solgaleo

[toxic cobalt]

Whats wrong with solgaleo?

[rigid flint]

Oh it's fine, it's just having more options would be nice

[toxic cobalt]

Theres always Hop and Moylayne

[rigid flint]

True true

[toxic cobalt]

[rigid flint]

Oh yeah Molayne's grid is quite nice

[toxic cobalt]

He can do it ungridded, although i wouldnt recommend it

[rigid flint]

Ah, Molayne, my steel striker for prestige

Oh I did want to ask

Is SS Gio at 1/5 alright for poison weak

I'm thinking of just using a support ex sync then using max ooze with gio

Hopefully it'll work

[zealous karma]

He’s probably better than Koga

[rigid flint]

Aight

[obtuse hound]

so for first mm i should do 850 and not 1500?

[zealous karma]

Correct

Hoenn is a bit much

[obtuse hound]

yeah i should wait till i have

more

ex and stuff

should i use ash on phoebe r1?

[zealous karma]

It doesn’t matter you don’t need to ex stuff immediately

It takes most players 3 weeks to Ex

[obtuse hound]

yeah that's fine

sure

but

is it a good idea to use ash on phoebe?

[random moth]

Yuh

Ash+volkner+Reg leaf

[echo gale]

Sinnoh

[random moth]

Then we get Unova on Monday

Lucky me no school cause of Labor Day

https://tenor.com/view/yippee-happy-celebration-joy-confetti-gif-25557730

[grand trout]

Are we done with hoenn?

[paper summit]

yes

[weak sleet]

Is the unova stadium easier than Hoenn?

[zealous karma]

Way easier

But it s fun

It’s def my favorite CS region

[weak sleet]

Oh that's a relief.

[swift swan]

much easier

no worries, if there are no new CS regions, we're bound for easy months

until Sinnoh comes back in November

[frozen steppe]

The rats will feast upon Aaron’s buggy corpse

[crystal galleon]

1/5 Alder or 5/5 Guzma for bug weak? I'm supporting with Aaron 3/5 and Ex'd New Year's Lillie 2/5.

[subtle forge]

Alder

[swift swan]

Alder should be fine there

[keen jasper]

Lightning will never strike twice for Aaron

[crystal galleon]

Alder sure as hell doesn't survive pre-sync without +6 def at 10k

And of course the trainer move drops his def by 3 stages

This is hell

[marsh vault]

Untrue i was able to survive with -3

[crystal galleon]

1/5 Alder?

[marsh vault]

3/5

But it shouldn't matter much

It's just abilities

Depends what your setup is too

[crystal galleon]

I'm running the pinned 2000 post-sync with Alder, NY Lillie Ex, and now trying to figure out my last support
I've gone with both Jasmine and a barricade Roxanne and nothing has worked so far

Roxanne was nice because I could boost sp. atk without using Alder's trainer move and raised my def to 6 with barricade but it wasn't enough, fast enough

[marsh vault]

Just raise crit with alder only and let Roxanne max your spatk and def

And just go ham with hyper beam

[crystal galleon]

Right as I see your message I pull it off in the most bs way possible
+6 evade NY Lillie tanked/dodged after Alder died to a snarl

Roxanne's boosts did work, so that was nice

[marsh vault]

Pogs

Congrats

Yea just need s bit of luck is all

[crystal galleon]

Thank you
Cannot wait to be done with Hoenn for a while

[marsh vault]

I'm gonna miss hoenn

I like their music

Definitely best E4 music:
Johto
Hoenn
Kanto
Unova
Alola

Although Kanto and unova could be tied or switched

[boreal holly]

Indeed hoenn music is the best imo

Along with the city theme as well (lilycove especially)

[zenith crane]

Help me make more teams for Elite 4?

[full mesa]

This week or tomorrow? Hard mode or MM?

[keen jasper]

Which one, Hoenn or Unova?

[zenith crane]

Tmr and this week

[keen jasper]

Hoenn is ending tomorrow and unless you show us your units, I'm afraid we can't help you

[keen jasper]

Also, master mode or hard mode?

[zenith crane]

Hard mode

And let me send what I have rq

https://imgur.com/a/KcWfCDM all this plus new red

[keen jasper]

You have so many good units underleveled

[obtuse hound]

who should i do r2 master mode? sidney?

[zenith crane]

Haha yeahhh

Just lemme know what to make and lvl and I’ll get to it

[keen jasper]

Compose a team to fill in the types in the medal

[zenith crane]

Yeah

I got you

I’m going to Ex Cythina rn

Working on mono ground

[obtuse hound]

i'm trying to think of a good offtype team for sidney that won't "go to waste" and be needed later

[swift swan]

what options do you have?

I think the rest of the battles are fairly easy. Sidney is really the hardest one

[keen jasper]

Why do a monoteam on hard mode?

[zenith crane]

Not sure

[obtuse hound]

a lot of good ones

[swift swan]

ss lyra. use her on steven and throw 2 units to fill in types

[swift swan]

with hard mode, you want to fill in as many types in the medal as possible

[zenith crane]

I completed this week waiting for next week

[swift swan]

so your team comps won't always be very ideal

[obtuse hound]

and a few new general pool

this + now i have ash

[zenith crane]

And oh ok

[obtuse hound]

oh and ssteven is ex now

i want to use redzard and ssmorty

but i fear they'll be used better elsewhere in this cs

[keen jasper]

SS Morty for Steven

[swift swan]

remember to make your giovanni & persian 5* and 5/5

[obtuse hound]

yep yep i will

[swift swan]

I think you'll be fine

[obtuse hound]

alr, ty

[zenith crane]

I need these type

So now that I beat it once I’m prob just going to make off teams I guess

[keen jasper]

Who did you do already?

[zenith crane]

Every one

I beat it

So I gotta wait for next week

[swift swan]

uhhh I don't think you can reset champion stadium on hard mode

[zenith crane]

So I can get the other 8

[swift swan]

and next week is Unova already

[zenith crane]

Oh does everything reset

Oh

[swift swan]

CS rotates every month

new weaknesses are on pins

[zenith crane]

Yeee

But do my medals go away?

[keen jasper]

No they don't

[swift swan]

your progress on Hoenn won't

as long as you've entered the hall of fame, all types you use will be saved for when Hoenn comes back later

[zenith crane]

Hmm ok ok

[swift swan]

only if you enter the HoF though. say if you use FIre and Normal against Sidney but not complete the others until the end of the week, those types won't be registered

[zenith crane]

This is what I used

I didn’t know about the medals till now

[swift swan]

yeah, unfortunately you can't reset and do the rest of the types when you're still in Hard Mode

[keen jasper]

At least when Hoenn CS returns, you can fill in the rest of the medals types

[zenith crane]

Would that be after unvoa

[swift swan]

it's fine, 12 types are doable especially when Hoenn comes back later and you have more units

[keen jasper]

Depends

[swift swan]

nope

so the pattern we have right now is

Kanto > Sinnoh > Johto > Alola > Hoenn > Unova

[zenith crane]

Mmm ok

[keen jasper]

Hoenn was August and Sinnoh was April

[zenith crane]

Weird order

[swift swan]

so if there are no new CS regions, Hoenn will come back in... 6 months

[keen jasper]

Are new region CS come every 4 months?

[swift swan]

yeah they didn't release the CS in order and they retconned the order once a new region was released

[zenith crane]

Oh ok ok

Cool cool

So basically I need a striker to just carry through the stages ?

And then throw on random units ?

[keen jasper]

Yes

[zenith crane]

Oop

I struggled with those teams I used

I’m definitely doing something wrong

[swift swan]

in hard mode, basically yes

[swift swan]

not exactly

it was a long drought before Sinnoh came

[swift swan]

the teams you used are actually good! except for phoebe which... I didn't know what you were trying to do, striker MC chu? having both Rosa and SSB there seems redundant

[zenith crane]

Rosa was there for the move gauge or the sp atk

[swift swan]

ah, SSB can provide gauge through TM and sp atk through passive albeit he's... slow. MC chu is pretty speedy iirc so you can try bringing another damage dealer next time. SSB can enable dual striking with enough speed

but the rest of your teams are great. just remember to always triple queue and quadqueue whenever possible

[obtuse hound]

i cant beat sidney with bianca ssbrendan and ssstevenEX due to gauge issues

its always gauge issues for me

[keen jasper]

Did you sync with SS Brendan first?

[obtuse hound]

no because as i wait for next sync sidney has his sync and kills

ssbrendan is not ex

[keen jasper]

You should still sync with him first because Mega Latios has Freevenge 9

Which means free moves for SS Brendan everytime he gets hits

[obtuse hound]

sure

but if i lose all my hp i cant really do anything

i just gridded steven

[keen jasper]

About time

[obtuse hound]

people before told me not to grid him as move level was only 1/5

lmao

[keen jasper]

Eh still

[sick inlet]

1/5 still has enough nodes to make his attack better?

Pretty sure you misinterpreted it, as even at 1/5 usually pairs want grid. Just some of them don't have a very good grid until 3/5 like Sonia... To my demise I didn't know her grid gets better at 3/5 and I just let her bark around with 1/5 grid 😭

[obtuse hound]

i might not get as lucky this time. sidney on 1hp

[keen jasper]

Is that with Protect?

[obtuse hound]

i think it was lucky i did that much damage

[sick inlet]

Do you not manage to get double sync off before his first sync?

[obtuse hound]

no because i was sure psychoboost would kill. its bad rng

[obtuse hound]

brendan isn't ex.

[sick inlet]

And no, protect is 1/1

[keen jasper]

Also instead of SS Brendan, bring someone to buff befense

[obtuse hound]

uhh ssbrendan is best for sssteven

[keen jasper]

I'm asking if SS Steven died with Protect

[keen jasper]

How so?

[sick inlet]

Double sync as in, you sync twice before they do, doesn't have anything to do with Brendan being ex

[obtuse hound]

that's not true

i always sync once before sidney syncs

[sick inlet]

🤔

[obtuse hound]

that's all im able to do

[sick inlet]

Gimmie a moment

[obtuse hound]

buffing defense wouldnt do anything for me

[obtuse hound]

if you're going to try with my exact same team - let me know if you have gauge issues

cause bianca couldn't even move

anyway it was just bad rng

that psychoboost was 1 off from killing

and bad rng again, ssbrendan got crit at the start

[keen jasper]

No Vigilance on him?

[obtuse hound]

nope

and no way to get it so

[keen jasper]

I'm guessing you ran out of lucky cookies

[sick inlet]

Double synced

[obtuse hound]

yeah had 26 two star of blue and never got vigilance when i tried it on brendan

..you're using anni may

[sick inlet]

I don't have Latios

[obtuse hound]

of course its going to be different

[sick inlet]

Latios would have been better for me lol

More damage for my sync

[obtuse hound]

it doesnt matter lmao

if it's different

anni may is better than brendan

in some regards

[sick inlet]

Except he's a support

Which would boost my stats more

[obtuse hound]

except its still different

[sick inlet]

I only brought may as an extra

It doesn't matter who the third one was

[obtuse hound]

i just have bad psychoboost rng

yeah it kinda does

cause i couldn't win with ssmorty redzard

that was worse

[keen jasper]

Do you have Darach @obtuse hound ?

[obtuse hound]

unfortunately no

[obtuse hound]

i wanna know how your gauge is full

mine's empty

whenever i do this fight, bianca can't live

move

its always gauge issues for me

i dont know how people dont use up gauge when they use the exact same queue as me

[keen jasper]

Would you rather sync with SS Brendan first for the Freevenge 9 or keep on syncing with SS Steven?

[sick inlet]

Double synced with useless level 90 horse on my team

Should say Mule

Not horse

Nothing to do with EX whatsoever

[obtuse hound]

well then you're amazing or something idk

i always have gauge issues

[keen jasper]

I mean a bray is a baby donkey after all

[obtuse hound]

always

[sick inlet]

If you can hit double Sync with Deoxys you clear the stage

[obtuse hound]

i never hit the double sync

[keen jasper]

NVM it's Musdale lol

[sick inlet]

Level 90 takes out Sidney 💪💪💪

[sick inlet]

Do you not know how to quadque a sync move?

[keen jasper]

Probably counter from SS Brendan

[sick inlet]

So after a sync you do 3 que really quickly

[obtuse hound]

this is what happens

[sick inlet]

Don't sync Brendan

Just double Steven

Steven will clear the stage with damage

[obtuse hound]

oh cight told me to sync brendan

[sick inlet]

Yeah it's okay

Just do Double Steven

[obtuse hound]

cause he always gets free moves or something

[keen jasper]

Eh fine, just sync purely with Steven then

[obtuse hound]

that was fine but i still had move gauge

[obtuse hound]

it would be fine if brendan was ex.

that might have been what you were thinking of, for double buffs

[sick inlet]

Well that would solve one issue yes

But you want to double nuke and clear the whole stage

[obtuse hound]

i still have move gauge

issues

[sick inlet]

And just incase use protect on the final turn

[keen jasper]

And also SS Brendan has a chance to counter with Freevenge 4 so there's a chance that the quad queue will still be ruined even if you sync with only Steven

[sick inlet]

Hm

Change that brendan

Giving me issues

[keen jasper]

Yeah, to a Def. buffer

[obtuse hound]

i was at 6 turns after sync

my sync

and sidney was at 2

so 🤷🏼‍♀️

[sick inlet]

Yeah for every 3 of yours is 1 of his

[obtuse hound]

i can screenshot it next time to show you

but gauge

[keen jasper]

What round are you doing Sidney?

[obtuse hound]

i cant move

so i cant do it that fast

r2?

thought you knew that

[sick inlet]

So you do your 654 he does 2
Then you do 321 he does 1

[compact hinge]

Who works as 3rd pair for 2k on fighting weak?

[obtuse hound]

gauge. issues.

cant. move.

[sick inlet]

Anything in existence with those 2. Speed buffer.

[keen jasper]

Someone to lower stats?

[sick inlet]

What move do you use?

Do you need brendan for this?

[obtuse hound]

yeah kinda brendan buffs amazing

[keen jasper]

Brendan is most likely for the theme skills

[sick inlet]

His luster purge/dragon breath eat too much gauge

[obtuse hound]

no?

[keen jasper]

Sidney is physical, his only special attack is Snarl

[sick inlet]

What is your Bianca 1/5?

[compact hinge]

Cant do it... Maybe i have the flase setting for 2k

[sick inlet]

Is bea 3/5? Fully Nuke sync her grid, add someone who buffs her speed/Attack and she will delete middle from the stage

[keen jasper]

SS Brendan only buffs Sp. Def. and SS Steven already maxes out Sp. Atk. and crit in Attack Forme

And you're literally bringing a unit that is weak to the type the enemy specializes in

[compact hinge]

Yeah she is 3/5 but I dont have a 3+ex pair

[obtuse hound]

nvm. i won.

it was just ass rng

[keen jasper]

Ok then

[sick inlet]

No need for EX, you can delete middle, then take out sides with 2 hits each

[obtuse hound]

drake r3, correct

[compact hinge]

Okay thank you, should I go with pre sync then right?

[keen jasper]

Who's gonna buff your speed?

[sick inlet]

Yes sir

I accidentally killed middle before I sync

So...

😄

Can't show example atm

[obtuse hound]

do you have an idea?

[keen jasper]

Do you have Olivia?

[obtuse hound]

no

[keen jasper]

Then who's your best rock-type damage dealer?

[obtuse hound]

i think i should offtype..

[sick inlet]

I was gonna say oh use that team in the picture. Then I remembered Drake spams Earthquakes

[keen jasper]

Drake is gonna lower your team's speed anyways even if it's ST

[sick inlet]

Oh right that too

Need speed buffer

Still got Skyla?

[obtuse hound]

yep

[keen jasper]

Good, then use her for Drake

[sick inlet]

Yeah you will struggle with speed in this stage, every hit Drake does decreases your speed by one

So Skyla is necessary

[obtuse hound]

you have to use physical attackers for drake right?

[keen jasper]

Any damage dealer will do against Drake

[sick inlet]

Yeah this week he has no special conditions defensively

[keen jasper]

Glacia has both entries at x3, but she has low HP

[obtuse hound]

can i try a sun team?

ssmorty and

idk

redzard?

and skyla?

[keen jasper]

What's your team for Steven?

[obtuse hound]

haven't figured that out yet, likely using ssleaf though

[keen jasper]

Why SS Leaf?

[obtuse hound]

actually, i should save the sun team for steven with sserika

[keen jasper]

Steven is easy enough with F2P grass-type damage dealers

[obtuse hound]

would zinnia do well here?

for drake?

[keen jasper]

Even Silver's Solar Beam will destroy Steven

[keen jasper]

You'd need weather for her

[obtuse hound]

what weather?

[keen jasper]

Any

[obtuse hound]

why?

oh i see

rain team..?

[sick inlet]

She has Weather Surge as her ability

Rain will work

[obtuse hound]

who for rain, winona or maykip?

[sick inlet]

Winnona should be viable

But that team will lack Crit now

Skyla doesn't buff crit

Winnona doesn't buff crit

And Zinnia (buffs crit but very inconsistently)

[obtuse hound]

weather that buffs crit?

[sick inlet]

And needs grid at that

[obtuse hound]

i can grid zinnia

[sick inlet]

Only weather I can think off that also buffs crit is Morty

And Train twin

Ingo or emmet

Ingo

[obtuse hound]

okay that sounds like a good team

ssmorty zinniaex skyla

[keen jasper]

Also SS Kris

[sick inlet]

Yeah that too

[obtuse hound]

yeah idk about this

this is what zinnia's sync just did

[versed garnet]

is next week gonna be easier? im low on spirits and im too weak to do this week

[subtle forge]

Well weaknesses are pinned so you can look yourself. It’s unova next week so it is gonna be easier just cause of that

[sick inlet]

Zinnia's sync is not her strongest poweress. She does more damage Draco meteoring but you need Dauntless lucky skill on her

Or Dragon Ascent if you have her power up

[obtuse hound]

unfortunately no

arrived too late

[versed garnet]

might have to offtype week 1 besides ground but i think ill be able to do this

[obtuse hound]

and unless light pink or yellow are cookies that give dauntless then can't do that either

[sick inlet]

Neither

Blue

[obtuse hound]

okay?

so what do i do?

hello...?

[sick inlet]

Still got SSMay?

Oh silly me

Those are the available ones

Who is your round 4?

[obtuse hound]

glacia

[sick inlet]

You got a team for that already?

[obtuse hound]

no.

so

[sick inlet]

Well in hopes to keep some useful teams for Glacia

Do SSMay, Giovanni Persian, Skyla

Well we can swap Giovanni Persian

Giovanni persian for faster/full attack/crit boost

But you can change him with anything probably

[obtuse hound]

for drake?

[sick inlet]

Yeah

Also always sync May

[versed garnet]

need help with CS, ive only used SSSteven, SSBlue and SSBrendan on Phoebe

[sick inlet]

That's a hefty team you used
You trying to do Hard mode I presume?

Xerneas, Giovanni(Persian), and maybe Blue for Sidney round 2? 🤔

[versed garnet]

ok

[sick inlet]

Wait

[versed garnet]

ill try

[sick inlet]

I am not sure we have enough units for this 😂
You still got skyla right?

[versed garnet]

yeah

i only did phoebe so far

[sick inlet]

Yeah but SSBlue and SSBrendan are so hefty they can carry a team each one by themselves

[versed garnet]

yeah

maybe ill just try next week

[sick inlet]

And you used both in one go 😭

We can still try if you want

[versed garnet]

ok

[sick inlet]

I just wanna save your Groudon/SSleaf till Steven

Anything else is fairplay

Skyla for Drake

[versed garnet]

also wouldnt darach be good for sidney bc he can defog his dark zone

[sick inlet]

Yes, he can defog dark zone

And also debuff attack

Know what you can replace Blue with Darach

Just infinite survive with Xerneas

[versed garnet]

k

ill be back

[sick inlet]

Tyt

[versed garnet]

did it

xerneas mvp

[sick inlet]

Infinite Xerneas

[versed garnet]

ok time to think for team 3

[swift swan]

yes, no worries

[sick inlet]

So for Drake, round 3, we want Skyla, Sidney and maybe leaf(eevee)?

[formal vigil]

For electric weak Aaron for when it comes back would clemont be a good option for it

[sick inlet]

Try that

[versed garnet]

ill try

[sick inlet]

If it doesn't work @ me

[versed garnet]

im assuming sync with sidney first righg

right

lemme grid my skyla rq

[sick inlet]

Yes, all 3 have potions so you can somehow manage

[swift swan]

theoretically yes. needs a strong nuke though

which I don't doubt clemont can do, just needs a lot of set up

[sick inlet]

I hate clemont, I can never make him work

[swift swan]

I love clemont, I like seeing his nuke

but with Aaron, I opted for Hau instead

[sick inlet]

Idk, I am just bad when it comes to Clemont and I accepted it.

[dark osprey]

Clemont needs that EX to deal with Aarons bulk mostly

[obtuse hound]

this is as close as i get. i quadqueued every time but heat waves and rock slides still take me out. help?

[sick inlet]

Trying taking out one side early? Or half their hp so you can 1 hit KO them right after taking out middle

[keen jasper]

Try to flinch them with Giovanni

[obtuse hound]

should i try just generally killing sides first?

[keen jasper]

Even if he doesn't have Aggravation

[obtuse hound]

but drake's eqs take us out

[swift swan]

yeah, my 5/5 Clemont couldn't deal enough presync. He's on my EX waitlist though

[sick inlet]

Also are you doing MM? Or is that their moves that they setup Shields?

[obtuse hound]

giovannis dead by the time i defeat drake

mm

[sick inlet]

Who is your 1st target?

[keen jasper]

Who's tanking first?

Skyla?

[obtuse hound]

giovanni

[keen jasper]

That's why

[sick inlet]

Should he skyla

Be*

[obtuse hound]

he has double skyla's defense though??

skyla will die so quick

[keen jasper]

Edit: Am I a joke to you?

[sick inlet]

Hehe

[versed garnet]

did it, sidney night slash spam is op

[keen jasper]

GG, against who?

[versed garnet]

drake

[sick inlet]

Noice, so Round 4 Glacia?

[versed garnet]

yeah

[sick inlet]

Lets see

[keen jasper]

Round 4 Glacia should be manageable if you have someone to buff Sp. Def.

[obtuse hound]

should i still try to kill sides first?

and flinch sides first

[sick inlet]

@versed garnet SS Red, Aaron if you can level him up and maybe Jasmine if you can also level her up/grid for steplock 9

[versed garnet]

oh im out of orbs lemme see if i can gt some for the event shop

from

[keen jasper]

Flinch sides first before you kill Glacia

[sick inlet]

It's not always a general rule to kill sides, I am just saying because you would get smacked hard by AOE right after taking out Drake.

[sick inlet]

She doing drake

:d

[sick inlet]

Well Jasmine is not necessary, try without using grid first

[keen jasper]

I'm so confused lol

But yeah, still the same thing

[sick inlet]

Yes, I apologize for answering 2 people in the same time

[keen jasper]

Flinch them before you kill the mid

[sick inlet]

Sad that Giovanni doesn't have a more reliable flinch

Would have been super op

[versed garnet]

ok

[keen jasper]

Or has Aggravation

[sick inlet]

That's what I am referring to

[versed garnet]

cant, i only get up to +3 spdef and at that point aaron is alr at half hp

[sick inlet]

Hmmm

Even with self heal thingie?

We can switch Jasmine

[versed garnet]

ok

[sick inlet]

Sonia can still do a good job

[versed garnet]

ill try her tommorow, i habe to go to sleep now i have classes bye

oh wait

[sick inlet]

Tomorrow this CS leaves

😄

[versed garnet]

ah

ill do it today thwn

[sick inlet]

Try Sonia

Your final team will be Groudon/SSLeaf and Lyra

So any other than those 3

You can throw in vs glacia

[full mesa]

Why? Leave SSLyra out of that team. Use her elsewhere to make the stages easier.

[sick inlet]

Lyra, not SS

[full mesa]

Yeah, SSLeaf. I just woke up. Don't mind me. Sorry, Jo.

[sick inlet]

Shes gonna buff both Leaf and Groudon under the sun (atleast 4 attack, speed and So.atk) and they can just spam everything at Grass weak Steven

It's round 4 left, not many options are there

You can look with me

[sick inlet]

Here

We used Leaf, Sidney, Skyla, Xerneas, giovanni and darach

Don't rely on gridding units

Also only hard mode

So we can make use with less viable units

[full mesa]

What types do we miss?

[sick inlet]

Well what we already used are flying, normal, Psychic, Dragon, Water, dark, fairy too. If it goes well we can add Fire, grass, Ground and something else probably

We would hit our 8 types minimum mark

Electric and bug if this run worka6

Works*

[full mesa]

We can add ground (SSGio), grass (Lyra), elec (Sonia) at the boss.
SSRed/Roxanne/Wally for R4 Glacia. Fire/Rock/Fighting. Half sync makes Wally mega in half turns. After than time out wide guard and sync with SSRed.

[sick inlet]

By the time Hoenn is back I am very sure they can do 15 types a week 🙈
So 8 minimum is all I am looking for hehe

Or 9 even

[full mesa]

Then we can do SSLeaf/Janine/Swimduck (you have enough orbs from the event) to poison stall R4. Glacia ain't much once you lower her attacks.

[sick inlet]

Would use Groudon instead of Gio for Boss anyways, has solar beam and infinite sun + speed boost doubles

Glacia has low damage

Big bulk

[full mesa]

Poison stall doesn't care about bulk (expert Sidney bug weak).

[sick inlet]

True, I don't usually explain poison stall, it's a very "I can't be bothered to do this" method for me 🙈

[full mesa]

For everyone but it's a safe method for beginners.

[sick inlet]

Well, we can still do it, if @versed garnet is still with us

[versed garnet]

i cant do it, glacia wipes

[sick inlet]

Well, toxic stall we can

[versed garnet]

ok

what team

[sick inlet]

SSleaf, Janine, and Psyduck if you have her

[full mesa]

SSLeaf/Janine/Psyduck (you should have her and enough orbs to max her grid).

[versed garnet]

oh i dont have psyduck yet, any replacements for her?

[full mesa]

Morty with mismagious?

[versed garnet]

havent grinded psyduck, just finished blue

uh i dont have him i think

[plucky pewter]

Stuck on Sidney in CS and is battle 4... Trying to get first completion for CS.. Ignore Gary on team, he's just place holder atm

[sick inlet]

Use Aaron

Instead of Psyduck

[versed garnet]

ok

whats the strat for this team

[sick inlet]

Aaron tanks

And buffs Defenses forever

Venusaur poisons everyone with razor leaf

[versed garnet]

aaron is weak to glacia tho?

[full mesa]

Yeah.

No...?

[versed garnet]

her ice attacks show as super effective

[sick inlet]

Janine debuffs with venom drench or whatever its called

Really?

[versed garnet]

yeah

[sick inlet]

How did I miss thay

That

Well you can tank Venasaur if you really need to

[full mesa]

Doesn't matter. Reset until you poison all of them on turn one and then use Janine to lower her att/spa/speed to -6.

[sick inlet]

^

[versed garnet]

ok

[obtuse hound]

aggravation?

[full mesa]

Change Blue for Swimduck and raid both Skyla and Swimduck to 120.

[full mesa]

A passive which doubles or triples the flinch chances of a move.

[versed garnet]

i dont have janine shes BP

[full mesa]

Not that Janine.

The Ariados one.

It's Janine and BPJanine.

[versed garnet]

oh

[sinful heron]

Venom Drench is 3* main pool Janine and Ariados

[full mesa]

We use the f2p one.

[sick inlet]

Is it possible to not have Janine and ariados?

[eternal mist]

What's in tmws csmm

[keen jasper]

Tomorrow is the Unova CS

[eternal mist]

Like do we know who is resistant to spa or phys

[keen jasper]

It's also pinned and you can check the PoMa Tools website to know what they have

[eternal mist]

Ty yes I saw the elements to use in the pins

[plucky pewter]

Thanks I'll give it a go

[full mesa]

If you don't complete the main story.

[eternal mist]

Wait pomatools have their stats?

How do I access it

[keen jasper]

Just click the link

[full mesa]

Click on PoMa tools, click on league, click on the region you want.

[eternal mist]

The link?

[keen jasper]

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/champion-stadium

[full mesa]

Pins

[keen jasper]

Probably doesn't know what link it is, but just to be sure

This link directly sends you to the Champion Stadium menu

[eternal mist]

Oh wow ty

[magic crown]

Max hp run

[eternal mist]

I didn realise the pomatools had this info

[versed garnet]

which one do i picj

[eternal mist]

What's your team

[full mesa]

Wait. Did you complete Glacia with poison stall?

[versed garnet]

yeah

[full mesa]

Nice. Maxie/Lyra/Leaf is the team and the parameter is the second.

[versed garnet]

Leaf and eeve?

[sick inlet]

Leaf and eevee already used, no?

[full mesa]

First sync on Leaf. After than choose whoever you want.

Did we use them?

Yeah...

New team..

[sick inlet]

Groudon, Lyra and anything that can damage or tank

[full mesa]

Maxie/Lyra/Tank. Just to be safe.

Maxie/Lyra/Sonia

Here.

[sick inlet]

Yeah

Works like this

Steven has condition to make your sun perma

Lyra's Sunny days TM double the buffs in Sun

[full mesa]

Lyra does 2 times TM and one time crit up. Sonia does 1 time TM and 2 times tackle the middle (hope for def drop). Maxie does one time crit up, one TM and one solarbeam before sync.

[sick inlet]

Yeah

Should be able to take out mid before they sync hopefully

[full mesa]

After sync wait a turn and then use light screen with Lyra. Sonia uses potions to keep herself healthy.

[versed garnet]

uhh ill try this later i have to take a break rq

[full mesa]

I admire you. I can't take a break if I know that I can beat a stage but I can't do because of RNG or other reasons.

[sick inlet]

I like the fact of clearing stages after my first recommendation of said teams xD

[full mesa]

Cut down to bug weak Sidney. Spend 3 hours on him both weeks.

[sick inlet]

Sidney was just a menace

Too much bulk and high damage

And not too many Bug types to hurt him

Alder is too squishy, and Lusamine is even squishier

[full mesa]

Same with dark weak Phoebe.

[sick inlet]

I mean, I didn't struggle with that so

Was more as a shock to me that people were struggling with her

[full mesa]

How did you do her?

[sick inlet]

My team was OP though

SSCyrus, Summer N, and anything fill here

[full mesa]

SSCyrus stops her and almost all of the content. I don't know why I didn't use SSLyra on her. Maybe I needed her for someone else?

[sick inlet]

Probably

Like bug type sidney

In same week

Lol

[full mesa]

Yep, that's why.

[modern tartan]

What possible teams for this champion stadium? Im coming back to my old account

[sick inlet]

Many

Many teams

[full mesa]

Are we aiming for 9-10 types Jo?

[sick inlet]

As many types as possible

I actually can't do it atm

[marsh vault]

I wanna do a hoenn only run

But that requires too many ex trainers lol

Not that it's not possible but

[full mesa]

Phoebe -> Luxray/Palkia/Sabrina
Glacia -> Bea/SSBlueEx/EleSSa
Sidney -> Sycamore/Hop/Kiawe
Drake -> Acerola/Olivia/Skyla
Champion -> Roxanne/Rosa/Gio or Brendan (if he has dauntless).

@modern tartan

[modern tartan]

ty! im gonna try

[modern tartan]

grid is a must?

[full mesa]

Not really. You're facing Hard Mode

[modern tartan]

Like that?

[full mesa]

I just wrote down the teams. Apart from Phoebe who must be done on R1 the rest is up to you. People usually don't do Sidney on R4.

Also SSLeaf/Ariados/Tank for poison stall

[toxic cobalt]

Sycamore team should go round 4 usually

[modern tartan]

i can quit battle without lose anything?

[boreal holly]

Yes

[modern tartan]

phoebe is basically put paralysis and hit that opponent?

[obtuse hound]

so..bea died instantly to glacia's sync r4

[keen jasper]

Even with Sp. Def. buffs?

[obtuse hound]

i didn't buff that, i wanted to test my hard mode team. who's a good spdf buffer again?

[toxic cobalt]

misty

[keen jasper]

Elio, he can also sleep chain the sides

[obtuse hound]

regular misty?

[obtuse hound]

idk if i have elio

plus i have no status conditions on

[keen jasper]

Yes, and also Swimsuit Misty

[obtuse hound]

i followed the pin parameters

[frosty axle]

Bit of a strange team there? why not bring electric type for Volkner

or is it hard only for medal

[obtuse hound]

yeah i was about to say but i was unsure since i don't know as much

[keen jasper]

Filter your Sp. Def. buffers

[obtuse hound]

you can do that?

[keen jasper]

Yeah, you can filter by abilities

[modern tartan]

im trying with this ->

[modern tartan]

.

[keen jasper]

Do you have Hau?

[modern tartan]

lvl 100

[frosty axle]

Yes but is it hard only or master mode

[keen jasper]

What sync level?

[modern tartan]

1

[full mesa]

I tried to fill up as many types as possible with an extremely limited roster. Feel free to change anything or everything

[obtuse hound]

filtered by move --> ^spd

[obtuse hound]

these are my buffers, apparently

spd

[full mesa]

You can filter even more if you also choose spdef up and all allies.

[obtuse hound]

ty

thats helpful

[mellow linden]

Assuming you don’t need SS Leaf, Aaron would work much better in that team

[obtuse hound]

this is for all allies

[mellow linden]

+Aaron because he has a passive that means even though Defense Order normally only buffs himself it’ll buff his allies as well

[obtuse hound]

its only one at a time tho and this is r4

quick sync

[full mesa]

And?

[mellow linden]

On Hard Mode that shouldn’t be a problem

[obtuse hound]

its master mode

[mellow linden]

Heck, probably won’t even be a problem on Master Mode

[full mesa]

Blue uses accel, double buff Aaron and double buff Bea. Blue syncs.

Then blue buffs fed and accel, Bea buffs even more, Aaron buffs/heals. Bea syncs, gg

[mellow linden]

Also, SS Blue should be the opponents’ 1st target on that team

He’s got stupid amounts of bulk

[austere fable]

So after getting sync buff, phoebe one shot full HP Lillie&polteigeist…and Sidney is killing aaron&vespiqueen before i can get my first sync off…god i love this game

[mellow linden]

Hard Mode or Master Mode, what round, and if Master Mode what parameters are selected?

[brave belfry]

Who should I prioritize I’m in hard mode round 3 rn

[toxic cobalt]

Who did you use in the firs two rounds?

And who did you beat?

[brave belfry]

Hold on

I used ash,red,Cynthia , bea, and cabllion

[modern tartan]

replace for hilda against glacia?

[austere fable]

Best to offtype drake? I’ve defeated phoebe (vaulkner, lillie&polteigeist, N) and Sydney (SC ingo, Aaron, SC emmet)

[keen jasper]

Have you tried using Blue/Aerodactyl?

[austere fable]

I haven’t since he doesn’t usually do much for me, who would be best to support him then?

[sick inlet]

Blue Aerodactyl... I want pls

[keen jasper]

I'm not really familiar with his grid, but I'm pretty sure most rock-type damage dealers benefit from sandstorm

Though he's 1/5

[toxic cobalt]

Crit and I guess give him defence support, he doesn't need too much, especially if you get some nice free moves.

[brave belfry]

@toxic cobalt

[toxic cobalt]

Can't use them again then.

[austere fable]

Yea blue got one shot by the sync, only managed to kill one of them before dying. I had him paired with Bertha and Leaf

[brave belfry]

Ik you asked who did I use

[toxic cobalt]

Why Bertha and Leaf?

[austere fable]

Bertha for sandstorm, leaf for theme skill and she’s a solid support, raises defense, and restores energy due to blues high costs

I could try it with SS morty and a different tech, but I wanted to save morty for Steven

[modern tartan]

how to complete all element pieces? 18 in total but only 3 per battle = 15

[frozen steppe]

Takes two weeks

[austere fable]

Tried it again, this time sycamore and SS Cyrus (sleep spam) blues sync hit for a whopping 300 damage

[sick inlet]

300?

Are you doing Parameters?

Do you buff crit?

Have crit shield on or something?

[manic mica]

Asking as a beginner just got champion stadium on master mode. I know a good start is 4.5k but what would be the easier multipliers to get through

[sick inlet]

Well the first 2 shields are a given (when you crit you ignore them)
Then things like Strength or - move gauge would not make you struggle as much

[manic mica]

I know it's something like 850 I think but I'm not sure which I'd chose to ge 850 or something around that unless I pick and choose

[austere fable]

Nope, I’m using standard 2k Parameters just with status conditions off, I used both dire hits

[frozen steppe]

for recommended parameters

(Has a good 850 point param guide)

[sick inlet]

^

[sick inlet]

No clue how blue does 300 damage, but his Hyperbeam should be deleting stuff

[toxic cobalt]

Blue' ssync isn't great, it's all about the hyper beam

[sick inlet]

Hyper beammmmmm

Murders families

[manic mica]

That helps a lot thank you 😭

[proud briar]

How can I outdamage here?

[toxic cobalt]

Why Skyla and Morty?

[rigid flint]

You'd definitely need a crit buffer first

[austere fable]

Hyper beam is currently hitting enemies for 2-4K, which isn’t bad, but since it’s single target, drake gets a sync off before I can kill more then one enemy, and that has so far always one shot blue

[rigid flint]

Skyla's fine, but maybe swap morty out

[toxic cobalt]

Kill Drake first

[sick inlet]

If you struggle with sides after drake, make 1 side half HP

Kill drake

Kill that side

Win

[rigid flint]

What other units are you using alongside blue?

[proud briar]

flinch

[rigid flint]

Yeah, you definitely need a crit buffer

[proud briar]

ill bring ssblue

[sick inlet]

The big gunsss

Or should I say

Cannons

[proud briar]

sharp entry 2 usually works fine but ig i need more for that sweet certain crit

[rigid flint]

Flinching isn't super reliable and just becomes kinda time consuming imo

Yeahh

[proud briar]

blizzard keeps sweeping my team

hoenn cs is cranked guys

[rigid flint]

Agreed

But also maybe use a spdef support then

Do you have any by any chance?

[proud briar]

yea plenty

i can go ahead and swap in limited jasmine for swanna

[rigid flint]

Nice nice

[proud briar]

oh wait

i dont even need a crit buffer then

[rigid flint]

Yeah that'd be good

I was just abt to say lmao

Is ur sc jasmine ex'd?

[proud briar]

1/5 5☆ 0/20 😞

she'd be great to ex or candy

[rigid flint]

I think it should be fine

You could keep skyla and swap morty out with sc jasmine

[austere fable]

Ok i managed to kill drake by off typing with SS Cyrus, SS morty, and SS Ethan. Managed to survive his sync simply by having far too many sync buffs lol

[rigid flint]

Except the main thing is

Do u wanna max ur attack

[proud briar]

Yea i probably should

[sick inlet]

Sync buffs only buff your attack my friend, not your defenses

[austere fable]

Really? Ive been working off the assumption it boosts everything

Dang lol

Then i have no clue how ethan survived the sync

[sick inlet]

A single buff gives 50% Dmg boost

[sick inlet]

Probably Master Passive boost by morty extra %

[proud briar]

I was super banking on having rolled cynthia by now but ig not

[rigid flint]

U could rely on mpr 2

You'd just have to restart the battle if x attack doesn't proc

[austere fable]

Now I get to do the same thing trying to keep bea from getting one shot by glacia 😭😭 did it once, and then glacia one shot my team with a blizzard. Currently using cobalion, aura Cynthia, and bea

None are EX’d

But Cynthia is 2/5

Though based on the effect of the fourth battle, I guess I should change my Params to the 2nd sync set

[rigid flint]

Geez

Why is hoenn ice lady so stronk

[magic crown]

How much hp does shantual have tomorrow

On the ground stage

[manic kiln]

17k

unova is easy

[magic crown]

That's so easy

Cynthia is gonna have some fun tomorrow

[manic kiln]

for comparison all ground weak stage from kanto/johto/unova/alola has 17k HP while hoenn/sinnoh has 28-29k

and no OP passives

[sick inlet]

Back to not caring about changing my parameters through all 5 stages

[compact hinge]

Hey Guys, thank you so much for your help, did this without an Ex or lucky skills with your help! Looking forward to the next one

[sick inlet]

So tomorrow -

[manic kiln]

like shauntal having dauntless and Speeding Sun 1

[full mesa]

It's Unova.

Change the weather or nuke her.

[manic kiln]

no i mean her passives are nothing compare to sinnoh/hoenn

[compact hinge]

Is Unova easier?

[wraith cove]

Hoenn and Sinnoh are generally the hardest CS regions due to restrictive gimmicks, like Weather/Zone, Wise Entry x2 etc...

[modern tartan]

Anu tip?

[wraith cove]

So yes, Unova will be easier

[austere fable]

Do we know theywont spike the strength?

[wraith cove]

I would use the second parameter instead

[wraith cove]

We can not know this for sure and I feel like they get slightly harder, but they unlikely get these passives added since we haven't gotten that since Sinnoh CS release, so they will probably be easier for a while at least

[modern tartan]

should i change someone/

?

[wraith cove]

Yes, Rosa does not do anything for SS Erika since she is a physical dps unit

I would give her Blaine (rapidash) for Sunny day, since Erika abuses Sun very well and then someone who generally tanks pretty well, idr if Steven was physical or special offensive, but maybe Skyla if you still have her left since she is a phenomenal tank

You generally do not have to match your support types with the opponents weakness

Supports are not meant to deal damage usually, so their type is less of a matter

[modern tartan]

skyla 125 is enough?

[wraith cove]

Yes 120 is usually always enough for the levels

[modern tartan]

dawn is good cuz vigilance passive counteract the critical next hit

[full mesa]

If only you had silver.

He is phenomenal for SSErika

[wary plume]

i don’t think you have to use blaine against steven. sunny day will be permanent unless you want your stats to be buffed at the start

[modern tartan]

i can get him in missions

[wraith cove]

If that works for you then that sounds good, was just worrying about Move Gauge maybe

[full mesa]

That's what you want.

[wraith cove]

Oh right he has perma field

Forget what I said then

You could actually do SS Erika, SS Red and a Tank then

[full mesa]

Not really because dawn is physical while Steven is special.

[wraith cove]

Can you show us your Supports

If we find a support who can sustain the needs for Erika and Red then they can blast through steven

[full mesa]

You just need Aoe speed and heal.

They both buff crit

[wraith cove]

I wouldn't say heal is a matter here imo

A crit buffer would be nice

otherwise Red takes too long

[full mesa]

Not really. In 3 turns SSRed had +6spa/spd and +2crit. After sync he reaches +3.

[wraith cove]

Well Skyla is probably the most recommended choice here

[full mesa]

SSErika sets sun, and buffs. Skyla gives spd and def buff.

I would run RosaEx tho.

Faster buff on SSRed as you say and ex double buff

[wraith cove]

I wouldn't really use 2 turns of TM usage, the difference between +4 and +6 is too minor and an additional +3 blast burn has more dps than the second with +6

[full mesa]

Since SSErika needs 4-5 turns to max out her buffs.

[wraith cove]

1/5 needs no speed buffs

Her speed stuff is grid if not mistaken

[compact hinge]

Alright thank you Cracer! Its awesome how cooperativ and helpful the commuinity is

[wraith cove]

so she is done in 3

[full mesa]

Not really. 1 turns sun. 2 turns for crit. Then buff att.

[wraith cove]

Attack and crit are in her TM

[full mesa]

Are they? Then, what is the 4th move?

[wraith cove]

Blade, x speed, Sunny day, Tm

[full mesa]

Yeah. No RosaEx. How about Roxanne?

Buffs SSRed, aoe speed and some def buffs. Also wide guard.

Since he doesn't have ex striker.

[wraith cove]

If Roxanne is too squishy to hold of long enough they can use Skyla instead

more sustain and speed buffs at least

[full mesa]

We are idiots. We're sleeping on the best support for that combo. Phoebe. Max out crit and can buff att to +4 minimum. Also move gauge charge.

[modern tartan]

i tried with roxanne but she is too squishy

trying with skyla rn and almost done

[wraith cove]

Phoebe I worry the same like Roxanne with sustain tbh, which is why I am very hesitant with recommending her but she would be perfect otherwise

[austere fable]

Using SC Sonia, rosa, and SS Lyra…why was the champion the easiest other all? Took 1 attempt on 2k. I didnt even 2k glacia

[wary plume]

2k glacia was easy for me somehow

[austere fable]

I dont have any fantastic fighting nukes, so dispatching that isnt my strong suit

[austere fable]

Literally me, but SC Sonia at 1hp, if it wasn’t for the fact Steven uses a status move after syncing i would’ve lost

[modern tartan]

only did better finger clicks xD

and now idk why i builded for this since cant complete 18 badges and havent master mode for rewards 😐

[toxic cobalt]

Not happy with the rewards you got for winning?

[magic crown]

I'm ready for tomorrow lol

[wary plume]

don’t you need the 18 types tho?

[magic crown]

I already unlocked the unova master mode

[wary plume]

so if you completed it once the next time it comes out you don’t need to fill in types?