Champion Stadium

[mellow linden]

Move Volkner to the Red team, Ash deals so much damage he doesn’t need Electric Terrain

[compact hinge]

Okay I try thank you, what does ash need?

[mellow linden]

Just defenses and gauge support

[compact hinge]

Dont have classic elesa

Okay I try him with ssblue then

Sadly i dont have a cookie on ssp red

[mellow linden]

You’ll want to bring someone to inflict Paralysis on Phoebe, so BP Surge would be a decent teammate on that Ash team as well

[mellow linden]

Shouldn’t matter too much

[compact hinge]

Hmm i get one hited without full defense on Bug weak stage with his sync

[mellow linden]

Can fish for MistyDuck MP Refreshes then

Or try to quadqueue and Sync twice before he can Sync, that can probably KO before he Syncs

[thorn abyss]

Are there specific challenges to put on if you're trying to reach 10k, haven't done master mode before

[mellow linden]

There should be some parameters pinned

[thorn abyss]

oh got it, thank you

[elder talon]

My god Steven is kicking my ass

[mellow linden]

What team are you using and is it Hard Mode or Master Mode (and how many points if MM)?

[elder talon]

850 points master mode, I've tried a dmg comp (sserika, meganium and deoxys def) and a stall comp (ssleaf Sycamore misty psyduck)

[mint cedar]

Are these ok? I wasnt sure who to use as a striker or dps for sidney

[elder talon]

The second one got the closest to a win, but eventually xerneas gets critted and I lose. The dmg one I feel is decent but Erika has no grid and that holds me back

[mellow linden]

Should do fine, could always do a SS Steven team against Sidney if the Dojo Gloria one fails

[full mesa]

If you have issues with Sidney, move SSLyra there to perma flinch. SSErika can do it without terrain.

[full mesa]

Not really. He is week against dark. Unless 3/5 ex you can't pre sync.

[mellow linden]

Do you have Skyla available? I think she might be better than SS Steven for the fight purely because she can heal the whole team rather than just self-heal

[mint cedar]

Does Sidney do dark damage this week? I wasn't sure if he could pre sync

[mellow linden]

Ah, didn’t realize he was weak to Dark. My bad

[elder talon]

No I used her already. That's why I used misty psyduck

[mint cedar]

What parameters should I use and the order I should tackle the e4?

[mellow linden]

Then could try MistyDuck instead of SS Steven on the offense team and fish for 1 or more MP Refreshes. Alternatively, use Janine instead of Sycamore in the stall comp and fish for 1 or more MistyDuck Trainer Move MP Refreshes

[north crown]

glacia team: where the move gauge at??

[mellow linden]

You can use the pinned parameters based on whether you plan to pre-Sync or post-Sync

[mellow linden]

SSA Cynthia has Gauge Acceleration and Bea’s the only heavy gauge use on that team, should be alright

[mint cedar]

Ssa Cynthia's buddy move has move gauge accel but I can switch

[north crown]

no don't switch ssacynthia

[elder talon]

Who can I have tanking if I swap Steven for misty? Because i feel like she can't tank super well

[mellow linden]

She can tank pretty darn well, the only thing is you need to fish for at least 1 MP Refresh on her Trainer Move

[north crown]

and if all else fails, spam potions

[mellow linden]

The gradual heal, First Aid, and +4 to both defenses makes her a lot bulkier than she might seem

[elder talon]

Alright I'll give it a try ty

[mellow linden]

As for clear order, with a Dojo Gloria team it might be best to do Sidney 3rd, and Phoebe is probably best to do 1st because it’s best to status her anyways (might need to do minor RNG fishing on Volkner if Ash can’t just blast through regardless of whether status is in play). The other 2 depends on if you think you can handle their Sync and/or their damage output after their Sync, I guess

[full mesa]

Gloria is better to be done last. You have +6 def/spdef and sync under terrain.

[mellow linden]

You mean Glacia?

[boreal ridge]

Trying to beat CS and the last two elite four are bit of a problem to me being Glacia and Drake. I don’t know who to build to go against them with what I have since I’m a recent returning player.

[mellow linden]

Olivia + Hop (or 3/5 Hilbert/Sonia) + Acerola for Drake (might be a bit harder without EX Olivia, but should absolutely be doable), Bea + Cobalion + someone to boost Attack for Glacia

Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[boreal ridge]

Haven’t completed CS once yet

[mellow linden]

Ah, Hard Mode. Don’t even need EX Olivia then, she’ll shred Drake regardless

Won’t even be hard

If you have Bertha it’ll be even more laughably easy

[boreal ridge]

Bertha and Hippowdown?

[mellow linden]

Yep

[boreal ridge]

Think I have her

Let me check

Yeah I do

[mellow linden]

She’s not necessary, but she’s a better Sand setter than Acerola unless you need flinch (which you won’t here)

[boreal ridge]

But I probs won’t have enough time to build everyone up before this week CS is over

Does it shift to Unova E4 + champion next week?

[mellow linden]

You have a few more days and you only need level 120, so might not be too bad.

It does shift to Unova CS next week, yeah

[boreal ridge]

Any grid reference I need to know?

[mellow linden]

Olivia wants her Sand Blaster, Surging Sand, and Inertia tiles (Surging Sand can be done away with if she’s EX if you want, but for non-EX it’s a lot more helpful) and Hop needs his Trainer Move MP Refresh

Could theoretically just use Surging Sand and Sand Blaster on a non-EX Olivia

Since she won’t be as good at Sync nuking with only single-target

[boreal ridge]

Well, I gotta stock up more upon co-op sync orbs ig

Until then I gotta wait a bit building each unit

[mellow linden]

For Hard Mode you might be able to get away with no Olivia grid, but Hop’s MP Refresh is mandatory since otherwise he can’t max Attack and crit

If no Olivia grid you can also use someone other than Bertha since Sandstorm won’t be needed

[boreal ridge]

ig Acerola can fill in bertha’s place?

[mellow linden]

If you need Flinch, but Acerola’s main role is Sandstorm, so she wouldn’t be needed for an ungridded Olivia

Skyla would be a solid option if you haven’t used her yet

[boreal ridge]

I haven’t used skyla yet iirc

[elder talon]

Ily

[mellow linden]

It work?

[elder talon]

Yeah. I lost the first time because lunatone and solrock destroyed me with rock throw, but the second try I beat them first and won

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[elder talon]

Okay well, time to reset and try to do it with 1500 points. God help me

Though I feel like 1500 isn't doable without grids, and 95% of my units don't have a grid

[mellow linden]

Yeah, might be really hard without grids. Could try for 850 points per stage (4250 total) since in a lot of cases it’s not too much harder than base and all the important rewards are at ~4200 points total

[elder talon]

Yeah that's what I did, I just beat E4 and champion with 850. That's why I wanted to try 1500

[mellow linden]

Ah

Well don’t worry too much for now, it’s really just luxury and QoL rewards past where you’re at and you can work your way up over time

Obviously make an attempt if you think you can manage it, but it’s nothing to stress over

[elder talon]

Can't do 1500 points without grid, can't get grid without 1500 points. Life is pain

Well I can it's just gonna take way longer

[vapid notch]

does any unit reduce defense and sets a zone

[mellow linden]

Courtney has Ground Zone and Defense Crush (9 after Mega, I think 2 or 3 before Mega?), off the top of my head

Why do you ask?

[vapid notch]

i cant get past sidney 2k

[elder talon]

I think SSA Cynthia has defense drop on her grid?

[vapid notch]

she does but its to weak/ takes to long

[mellow linden]

Courtney won’t be much better since her Defense Crush is unreliable until after she Syncs

Do you have SSR Cynthia and SS Korrina?

[vapid notch]

which cynthia is that and no to korrina

[mellow linden]

SSR Cynthia is the one with Giratina

[vapid notch]

i got her

[mellow linden]

She has Defense (or Sp. Def., or both) drops and Ghost Zone, so you could try her + a Ghost DPS (Giovanni + Mewtwo, maybe) + a Support?

Or if you have Ash he can probably just murder the whole stage

[vapid notch]

i used ash already, giovanni and mew are weak to dark so he gets bodied

[mellow linden]

Ah

What team have you been trying so far?

[vapid notch]

ive used serena and zygarde, ss lusamine with pyschic zone, spdef down, tried sdney to take advantage of dark zone

[mellow linden]

Do you have Evelyn? Because I ran Evelyn + SS Serena + Marley and beat Sidney pretty handily

[frozen steppe]

What round are you doing this on?

[vapid notch]

i dont have marley, i can get evelyn

[vapid notch]

stat buffs more significant

[mellow linden]

1. you should have Marley (unless you used her already), she’s a 3-star (the one with Arcanine, you might be thinking of Marnie), 2) MistyDuck can probably work instead of Evelyn, you just need to fish for a Trainer Move MP Refresh

[vapid notch]

why marley, explain the strat

[mellow linden]

Evelyn (or MistyDuck in your case) buffs defenses, Marley has Team Sharp Entry on her grid (so SS Serena can save a turn of Dire Hit+) and buffs Speed, SS Serena is the DPS

[mint cedar]

Hmm Sidney is walling me. Post sync, I might try musharna and ss steven ex pre sync? I was thinking of head start ss elesa, but blue would be better maybe for deoxys sync boost. My head hurts.

[mellow linden]

Can always take a break and come back tomorrow, you have a bit more time

[vapid notch]

musharna gonne get kod after 2 turns

[vapid notch]

how about aron and vespiqueen or vaporeon and misty

[mellow linden]

Aaron could work if you’re willing to work without the speed, Misty + Vaporeon doesn’t help the team at all

Could do Aaron instead of Evelyn or MistyDuck and use Aaron + Marley + SS Serena, actually

[mint cedar]

Musharna isn't dark weak?

[mellow linden]

Or Aaron + SS Serena + any Speed buffer, really

[vapid notch]

y marley? couldnt we use someone else for speed, like daraq

[mellow linden]

With Aaron any Speed buffer will work. I recommend Marley as an SS Serena teammate because she has Team Sharp Entry on her grid, but since Aaron buffs crit you don’t need to worry about that

Skyla could be good as your Speed buffer to buff Defense faster

• Potion

[vapid notch]

regular skyla?, what should my restrictions be then

[mellow linden]

Yeah, regular Skyla. The pinned parameters should work (I used post-Sync)

[manic mica]

Just unlocked master mode, wanted to what is a good starting point for somebody's first time

[mellow linden]

850 per stage (4250 total) is generally considered the ideal beginner target because it’s not as much of a difficulty spike as 1500 or 2000 and gets you all the important rewards

[heavy ravine]

cant win a single fight in elite four, get completely wrecked

feels like I have decent enough units, is it just a matter of upgrading to full strength first or is their some sort of strategy Im oblivious too

[mellow linden]

Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode?

[heavy ravine]

hard mode

can post my units if that helps, at this point I just want to beat one of them

[mellow linden]

In that case, you’ll want to pick a damage-dealer (usually a Striker, but some Techs are damage-dealers) that matches the type weakness of the stage (Electric if the stage is weak to Electric, Fire if it’s weak to Fire, etc.).

Pay attention to what that Sync Pair wants in terms of buffs and field effects, and pick Supports/Techs that provide those.

If you do that, you should be most of the way to clearing it

Posting your roster would help, yeah

[heavy ravine]

well okay, Ill try thinking about my team builds a bit more

[mellow linden]

If you show me your roster I can offer more specific advice, but I’ll generally try to stick to recommending damage-dealers to build a team around to help you get the hang of teambuilding since it’s Hard Mode. Hard Mode is a great place to learn the more complex aspects of teambuilding so that you can be better prepared for Master Mode

[heavy ravine]

okay, one sec

probably a better way to show them all, but thats what I could come up with

[mellow linden]

The upgrade menu is usually the best place to screenshot your roster, for future reference.

So, you could build teams around:

• N or Ash for Phoebe (if you use Ash you might need to inflict Phoebe with a status in order to deal significant damage)

• Bea for Glacia

• Olivia for Drake

• Gladion for Sidney (Gladion can be any type)

• Brendan or SS Lyra for Steven

With SS Steven, Ash, and SS Lyra as potential off-type “free win” options to use if you get stuck

Oh, Guzma could work for Sidney too, I missed him

[heavy ravine]

okay, will try with all of them

[vapid notch]

whos ss lyra

[mellow linden]

Lyra with Celebi

[heavy ravine]

hard part will be deciding who supports them, not clear on how to check what they need

my ex

cause I like celebi shrug

Ill try taking down Phoebe with Ash/Volkner/Sonia

[mellow linden]

Check the Sync Pair’s kit and see what they can provide themselves and what they’d want based on their kit, then choose Sync Pairs that can offer what they need. I’ll give you an example with the Gladion team:

Gladion wants Attack and critical rate as his mandatory buffs, and he can provide Attack for himself via X Attack. So you could use someone Phoebe to give him critical rate, and then use someone like Skyla to offer Potions to help keep the team alive.

Alternatively, you could use Hop, who provides Attack + critical rate and Potion, so Gladion can spend less turns buffing himself and start attacking as soon as he’s used his Trainer Move to change type, then bring someone to provide sustainability

That’s not necessarily the only possible team, just an example to provide an idea of how teambuilding works.

[mellow linden]

That’s a fantastic team comp!

[manic mica]

Then I'll try :0

[heavy ravine]

woot, I wins

thanks a bunch Cobalt, was simpler than I expected

one step closer to pokemon master

[mellow linden]

Congrats!

[golden stratus]

should i use the double ash team against the sidney guy to counter the terrain he creates

im sorry not double ash

double pikachu

[mellow linden]

Ash + SST Red is certainly a powerful duo to potentially obliterate him with, but it’s far from the only solution, so if you’d prefer to use them elsewhere you can

[golden stratus]

cause my strongest team is prob ash sst red blue

but like

i dont know if i should expend it on sidney

what other team could i make thats somewhat f2p friendlh

[heavy ravine]

Ima try your gladion team next, but one quick question

when you say he can be any type, how that works exactly?

[mellow linden]

If you have 3/5 Hilbert or Sonia you could maybe try them + Gladion + Support?

[golden stratus]

when u use his ability he changes to the opponent weakness

[heavy ravine]

oh sweet

[mellow linden]

When Gladion uses his Trainer Move, he changes his Sync Move and Multi Attack type to the type the opponent is weak to

So he’s sorta like duct-tape for type weaknesses

[golden stratus]

is sonia the person with a yamper

[heavy ravine]

had no idea he was so great

yeah she good electric support

[mellow linden]

His damage output is usually outclassed by Sync Pairs who are innately that type, but since he can be any type he has a lot more flexibility

And Bug is a type where he performs about as well as most of his competitors because we don’t have very many super-strong Bug types at the moment

[mellow linden]

Yeah

Hop is an alternative to those 2

[golden stratus]

which hop

[heavy ravine]

might need to lvl him up more as he hitting for squat atm

[mellow linden]

Zamazenta. That’s the only Hop

[golden stratus]

the zamazenta one?

oh

im stupid

i thought there were other hops

[mellow linden]

Might be mixing up Hau for a Hop alt

Names are similar

[golden stratus]

i do have sonia and gladion

now i just dont know a support great

[mellow linden]

Is Sonia 3/5?

Because if not Hop would be better

And for a 3rd team member Skyla and MistyDuck are both great options

[golden stratus]

so gladion hop skyla/mistyduck

[mellow linden]

Possibly, but 125 should be enough for Hard Mode. Just make sure he’s getting as much Attack as he can and +3 critical rate

[mellow linden]

Yeah, that’d be a solid team. If this is 2k it might be a lot harder, but if it’s Hard Mode there shouldn’t be any issue

[heavy ravine]

couldnt do it with gladion

but Guzma, SS Lyra and SS Leaf overkilled it

[mellow linden]

Yeah, that’d do it

[heavy ravine]

poison+leaf field to counter dark field + guzma is boss when buffed

Im getting the hang of these tough fights, I think

thanks again

[mellow linden]

No problem

[golden stratus]

How would u work the team?

So I got Hop Gladion Skya

Skyla

But idk the rotation u would do

I tried it once and I got swept by the shiftry lmao

[mellow linden]

Turn 1 everyone wants to use their Trainer Moves, Hop and Skyla use their Trainer Moves turns 2 and 3 (unless Skyla doesn’t get her MP Refresh, in which case she starts using Gust. If Hop’s MP Refresh doesn’t happen at least once then reset and try again) while Gladion spams Multi-Attack.

If Skyla is EX she should Sync the 1st time it comes up, otherwise Gladion Syncs. After 3 uses (2 for Skyla if she didn’t get MP Refresh) of their Trainer Moves, Hop and Skyla should be using Metal Claw and Gust respectively and Gladion should be using Multi-Attack every turn after his initial Trainer Move use unless he’s Syncing.

If Freevenge activates on Hop, he should use Behemoth Bash the next time he would normally use Metal Claw.

Use Potion as needed to keep the team alive.

[golden stratus]

What's m

Mp*

[frozen steppe]

Move Points = The number of times you can use a move

[mellow linden]

The number of uses a move has

Hop needs to use his Trainer Move 3 times in order to max Attack and crit, so if he doesn’t get at least 1 MP Refresh it’s generally best to start the fight over and try again

[golden stratus]

And I assume u just hit the side targets then the center

[mellow linden]

If it’s Hard Mode that’s fine, but you’re better off gunning down center in Master Mode unless you can’t handle the AoE spam after center goes down

[golden stratus]

But in hard mode would it be easier to take down the center first?

[mellow linden]

You can gun down center 1st in Hard Mode as well, it’s just not as important as it is in Master Mode and so it’s more personal preference

[golden stratus]

My Gladion is tickling this leafy animal 💀

[mellow linden]

Is this Hard Mode or Master Mode? I don't think I ever specifically asked?

[golden stratus]

Hadd

Hard*

[mellow linden]

Could try a strong physical attacker with the same team comp and see if you have better luck

[golden stratus]

These are the five stars I have

I think Gladion is prob my only option

[mellow linden]

You could try Hop + Gladion + Sycamore, actually. Sycamore would run Horn Leech Master Healer tiles and Sync 1st, Hop follows the same strategy, you make sure Sycamore is the 1st target, and Hop + Sycamore will pretty much drag anyone to the finish line

Same strategy as in what I said Hop should do before, that is

[heavy ravine]

if you fighting sydney

cannot stress enough how much eliminating his dark zone helped me survive his shiftry aoe

doesnt have to be bug zone, I used grass zone and it made the fight infinitely easier to survive

but looking at your sync pairs, doesnt seem like you have a zone setter

unless you havnt used ash pikachu, I think he can set zones

[golden stratus]

what is a master healer tile?

[manic mica]

agony, i've just got sidney left and idk what i can use for him

can i send my units here i dont wanna like spam 💀

[heavy ravine]

yeah you can

show us what you got

[manic mica]

and these r what ive used xd

this is just for hard i'm new LOL

[heavy ravine]

hmm

might wanna lvl up gladion for multi type bug use

[manic mica]

thonk, i havent even glanced at him yet lmao

[heavy ravine]

also volkner with electric terrain will help against shiftry dark zone, but not sure if you can use volkner twice since you used for electivire

[manic mica]

wait terrain overrides zone?

i thought it didnt

[heavy ravine]

maybe it doesnt, kinda new too

I used grass field, so electric terrain might work different

[last palm]

It does not

[manic mica]

yeah i coulda sworn i've had terrain and zone up before lol

sigh

[heavy ravine]

wow had no idea you could do that

guess I need a electric zone for pikachu

is rain dance a zone or terrain?

probably terrain nvm

[manic mica]

neither

[last palm]

Sydney r4?

[manic mica]

yeah

oh i just noticed the round stuff bruh moment

[high lantern]

can anyone help me with teams for all 5? Im considering 10k but not sure

[manic mica]

i unintentionally made this way harder on myself didn't i,

[last palm]

R4 for sudney probably hard choice

[manic mica]

i just did the ones i could when i could LMAO kind of cheesed everything

agony.

[heavy ravine]

wish I knew an easy way to check which trainers could set zone

cause without that zone break, shiftry gets stupid op on his sync

I suppose you could double down on a support that buffs defense/sp def (not sure which is needed)

[mellow linden]

It increases the amount healed

Super important for Sycamore in a Hop + Sycamore duo

[last palm]

lisia and ataria can clear zone tho

[heavy ravine]

welp, theres your answer

can they do it on demand though? cause the timing can get tricky

have to eliminate the zone as soon as he sets it, cause next comes his sync

[last palm]

He set zone before he sync so it always predictable

[heavy ravine]

suppose your right, even if its tricky to clear, have time to set it up

[last palm]

[manic mica]

oh lisia also defogs thonk

ugh starting to feel like this is legit impossible for my current roster

[last palm]

it is possible tho

You hold SSMorty for last round?

[manic mica]

ya

[last palm]

Oka

Darach can also defog

[manic mica]

yee not sure which defogger to bring

[last palm]

I would recommend darach just because i dont like Lisia and he can debuff atk in case sydney use seedboom

[manic mica]

o

banned word

[last palm]

[manic mica]

am i better off tryna offtype this?????

my bugs are garbage

[last palm]

i havent clear a stage with my bug striker yet

Plan on 5 star Beedrill

[last palm]

Kinda for general pool unit

You need all of them full grid if you want to use them

[manic mica]

💀

[last palm]

Hey can win with this team tho

This is my first try and Guzma die by hyper voice because i kinda miss a few move and a sync

Only different from you unit is all my unit lv 130 and everlyn has vigilance

[sick kraken]

I did a test with stock T!Red's buddy move in cs 2k off/on type clear. As a sub dps he's hitting some good numbers even in a normal bruiser team w/out sp ↑  he's doing around 4k+. You can even make him your main dps, but very squishy ofc.

Ex+(3) for thunder bolt supremacy

[manic mica]

oh damn

[sick kraken]

You should off type or if you have gladion you can cheese it

[last palm]

Here

[last palm]

bruh i he is main dps hit like a struck and every time you use B move your move gauge is full

[golden stratus]

what are some nice drake teams that are somewhat f2p

[last palm]

I used Olivia 3/5 Hapu and Aaron 3/5 tho

[sick kraken]

Here's a 2/5 ex ash 2k on/off type clear

[last palm]

general pool so gonna be f2p if you play long enough

[last palm]

kinda busted team tho

[sick kraken]

ash supremacy lmao

You can still hit good numbers with him in a normal aggro team

[last palm]

Dena think a move with 1000 BP is balance

https://tenor.com/view/not-funny-eye-roll-laughing-shirley-temple-giggle-gif-22086614

[sick kraken]

Pair it with red and the opposing team is already wipeout or at 50% hp b4 you can even use ash b move

[last palm]

True

[arctic quarry]

having hell on this stage

going for about 1.2k but a single hyper beam can't take out the sides

[fringe trail]

you'd probably want support that's more dedicated to support Volcarona then

like SpA or SpDef debuffers

[arctic quarry]

no stat droppers and volcarona can max spa in 1 turn

[fringe trail]

yes, that's why I'm suggesting DEbuffers

Dusknoir already seems unnecessary

[arctic quarry]

ehh I'm saving my stat droppers for a different stage

crit buffing

[fringe trail]

oh your Yamper is 2/5

[arctic quarry]

volcarona can self buff but that takes a while

[fringe trail]

I think bringing along some SpA debuffer might still be worth

you take more setup time in exchange for greater damage ramp

heck, Masquerain can activate Theme skills for Volca

[arctic quarry]

wdym spa debuffer

you mean debuff opponents or

[fringe trail]

exactly what I mean

Struggle Bug, Snarl, etc.

[arctic quarry]

ehh

[fringe trail]

Dusknoir + Yamper seem pretty damn redundant for a special attacker setup

[arctic quarry]

if I'm using volcarona tm I need the defense buffs to make sure I don't just die to sync

and the extra time taken to buff my own crit seems like a waste

[fringe trail]

that's why you just try to kill the center

before they even reach sync

[arctic quarry]

already am

+6 max crit does about 5k at most

[fringe trail]

well you could be doing more with Masquerain setup

[last palm]

Why dusnoir... She dark weak tho

[fringe trail]

yeah that's the other problem with Dusknoir

like she's the max crit buffer but she can't be the main tank

[echo gale]

Steel Weak next week woo

Time to unleash my 5/5 Alola Grimsley

[last palm]

I havent had the medal

[arctic quarry]

masquerain doesn't buff crit though

[arctic quarry]

crit buffing

[fringe trail]

if you insist on Dusknoir, I'd probably suggest something like Masquerain/Dusknoir/Volcarona

[last palm]

Yeah but no other option ?since she is kinda slow too

[arctic quarry]

issue is

I need the defense buffs

struggle bug drops spa

but his sync is phys

[fringe trail]

do you? cos there's no physical AOE

aside from the sync

which, hopefully with Masq support, you might just kill him before the sync even comes

[arctic quarry]

the sync without defense buffs does 1.2k on volcarona

[fringe trail]

the whole idea of masquerain

[arctic quarry]

because tm drops 3 def

[fringe trail]

is to help Volcarona burst down center so you don't even need to worry about the sync move

[arctic quarry]

don't really see how that works

[fringe trail]

all Volcarona has to worry about at that point is Liepard Hyper Voice or something

which u happen to Struggle Bug debuff so you can tank that better

[arctic quarry]

how exactly does masquerain help with damage though

[fringe trail]

omg I'm so sorry

I didn't realize your Volca is only 1/5

[arctic quarry]

bruh

[fringe trail]

😛

well I cleared this stage with Furious Brawn + Inertia Pinsir

[arctic quarry]

welp

guess I might have to drop strength +2 or smth

[last palm]

What round is it?

[arctic quarry]

2nd

[last palm]

Seem nice tho free Ex support

[arctic quarry]

none of my ex supports can buff crit quickly or buff defense

[last palm]

You dont need too buff that much

Just sync with ex and do dps

[arctic quarry]

hmm

I highly doubt that will work but will try

[last palm]

Try to see how much a move do

Like Ex buff +100% damage so i expect with R2 it go up to +200%

I offtype with SS Giovani tho

Do dps mainly

[arctic quarry]

does glacia have piercing gaze or smth

her walreins blizzard never misses

[arctic quarry]

ah shit

that stage was pain

managed to get 8.4k total while offtyping 2 stages

nubbad

[swift swan]

she sure does

It's funny how other CS Fighting stages have some kind of evasion hacks but not Glacia

she really said "no evasion for u"

[full mesa]

Just poison stall her on R3.

[meager widget]

Shouldnt poison stall be better for R1?

[swift swan]

R1 and R3 are both good for stalls

[woven pebble]

Hey

I need help

Plz

Anyone online

[swift swan]

what do you need help with

[woven pebble]

Hey

Problem in Defeating drake

[grim bridge]

Who should I use against Sydney my bug types are a bit lacking I think

[woven pebble]

Is SS Brock is good or Olivia

?

@swift swan

Huh

Plz reply

🥲🙏

[swift swan]

Olivia is better imo

but what move level is your Olivia?

[swift swan]

is this hard mode or master mode? and which round are you fighting him on?

[grim bridge]

These are the bug I have idk if any are good or should I just try to off type

[swift swan]

oof

yeah I think offtype is better

[grim bridge]

Alright should I show my other 5*s?

[full mesa]

Skyla/Silver/Sun setter. Check Eevee's f2p guide on yt.

[grim bridge]

Thanks I appreciate it

[woven pebble]

1

What should I do

[full mesa]

How many points are you aiming for?

[woven pebble]

Mm

MM

@swift swan

@full mesa

1.5k

Now

Plz tell

[full mesa]

First, don't be so demanding. Second which round are you facing Drake off?

@woven pebble are you with us?

[swift swan]

hmmm, what are your other 5* damage dealers that you haven't used?

[woven pebble]

Huuu

I finally defeated

Drake

With Sandstorm

[elder talon]

Man why is Sydney so damn strong

[dense lintel]

He has a lot of HP from what I remember

[elder talon]

That, and he deals a ton of dmg

I was tryng to go for the 1.5k MM on all of them but I think I have to settle for 850 for Sydney

Granted the only good bug type I have is Noland so it's not like I have a good way to deal with him, but still

[dense lintel]

I offtyped him

[elder talon]

I saw that the best way to offtype him is with silver, but I don't have him ex

[meager widget]

Make sure to get rid of his Dark Zone. otherwise you'll just get wiped

[elder talon]

With like Darach's defog?

[meager widget]

That or even just setting up your own

[grim bridge]

I need some help against Steven not sure what to use

[toxic cobalt]

Silver, Sycamore, Gardenia, Brendan, SS Erika

[woven pebble]

Yeah nah

Same

[woven pebble]

How

How to get rid of This Dark wish

[grim bridge]

Have silver ss Erika sycamore gardenia

[woven pebble]

?

[woven pebble]

.

[toxic cobalt]

Pick one to strike with and build the team around them.

[woven pebble]

Oh

[toxic cobalt]

Use another zone, win before they use it, or time it out with flinches

[grim bridge]

I guess I'll use ss Erika since silver isn't power boosted

[woven pebble]

Im using Sleep

Hipnosis

[dense lintel]

I used Archie Dojo Gloria SS Kris

[manic mica]

so yknow how i was struggling big time with sidney yesterday...
i got red and ended up brute forcing using him LMAO

[manic mica]

idk what happened but why am i having a hard time with Steven now

i just 1.5k'd him yesterday wtf

[full mesa]

Probably RNG

[manic mica]

bruh i turned master mode off by mistake and didnt quit the battle too fast

i have to reset all over again NOOO

[lunar meadow]

Oof

[keen jasper]

[unreal sequoia]

Which param did you guys use for reduced sync countdown battle?

[elder talon]

What's the difference between strength 1 and atk and spa 1

[tacit matrix]

Atk 1 increase enemy offensive stats by 10%, Strength 1 increase the enemy levels by 10

I suggest checking out poma tools CS page to understand more what it means

https://ng-pomatools.web.app/champion-stadium?league=3&stage=730

[elder talon]

Oh ok ty

[toxic cobalt]

Depends on your team. I went for a lot of HP to do an extensive Hau/Sycamore post-sync

[unreal sequoia]

I use this against Glacia

Died on the first sync

Probably gonna change Wally if he still cant survive with another param

[vapid notch]

i finally got over sdney

[woven pebble]

How plz tell

Getting hard for me

[vapid notch]

ssrenegade cynthia, zygarde, vespiqueen 1/5,3/5,1/5

[woven pebble]

Oh...wowo

Then how would u get rid of That Dark wish

[vapid notch]

my criterias were differnt from the pinned comments, i would ghost wish after he dark wish

i would sync with zygarde though

[woven pebble]

But after i get rid of that dark wish , nxt problem arrives - he again n again using brutal swing

That damage a lot

What to do

@vapid notch

[vapid notch]

sdney doesnt brutal swing he snarls, and right after he syncs he put special defense barrier up

[woven pebble]

Yeah yeah

This i ....

Snarl....

Sry

But damages a lot

[keen jasper]

Snarl is special

But it doesn't really hurt much

[vapid notch]

i buff def and spdef with aaron,

[keen jasper]

But your HP will probably be low enough to die to Snarl

After sync

[woven pebble]

Aaron ... I think i have to use that

[woven pebble]

Yes

This

[vapid notch]

my turn 1 move is dire hit zygarde, shadowball cynthia, buff attack aand crit with aaron,

[woven pebble]

That last time when bug type was there (2 week back)
I easily defeated, by using Serena (hipnosis) , Guzma , n SS blue

N last time the dark wish also missed by Him 😂

And now i m using same thing

But im loosing

[undone ether]

FUnny enough, once we get Karen and Houndoom buffs, she can just 3 snarls, and -6 SP.ATK.

[woven pebble]

Wow

[keen jasper]

Luckily my Karen was recently 3/5 from the Johto tickets

[undone ether]

mine's at 5/5

just needs a champion stadium

so i can EX her

[woven pebble]

Any tricks to counter

Sidney

[undone ether]

you need Fairy.

[woven pebble]

Fairy...

Oh

[undone ether]

Xerneas is also required.

[woven pebble]

Oh

[vapid notch]

get rid of dark zone

[undone ether]

that too

[woven pebble]

Darch - defog

I used

But after that Snarl after snarl

[undone ether]

Xerneas has Impervious

[woven pebble]

Um

[undone ether]

there should be a physical fairy striker that you can use

[woven pebble]

Um only best Xerneas

[keen jasper]

Lisia?

[woven pebble]

Bad luck i dont have yet

Till now

She is the best

Ik

[vapid notch]

lemme see ur box

[woven pebble]

Now

[vapid notch]

yes

[woven pebble]

Ok

Wait

[undone ether]

then you need Xerneas getting buffed, ala ATK Buffs and DEF buffs.

[woven pebble]

Ok

Huu.... Thinking to use Xerneas in Last Battle with Steven

But may be i should use it now

[keen jasper]

Steven is easy even with Silver

You just need someone to set up sun

[woven pebble]

Um blaine

Ok

So

Teams

[undone ether]

SS Erika works

[woven pebble]

Xerneas, and

[undone ether]

oh if its still sidney

Xerneas, Eevee (probably, mostly cuz she can tank for Xerneas)

and a Critter

Phoebe

[woven pebble]

Xerneas, eevee n phoebe

No striker

?

[undone ether]

Xerneas will be your best damage dealer

so... yeah

[woven pebble]

O

Ok

[undone ether]

too bad you don't have Rachel 😮

[woven pebble]

Um

So

[undone ether]

.-.

Xerneas, CHampion Iris, and Phoebe.

[woven pebble]

@vapid notch

O

[woven pebble]

Maybe work

Im trying now

[undone ether]

Champion Iris better have Defense Crush 2

[woven pebble]

O

[undone ether]

Xerneas requires Critical Strike 2

[woven pebble]

Have

[undone ether]

and Phoebe requires Vigilance.

[woven pebble]

Have

[keen jasper]

Wait, are we talking about bug-weak or fairy-weak Sidney?

[junior crown]

phoebe has innate vigilance

[woven pebble]

😂

[woven pebble]

I donno

[undone ether]

your team should be Xerneas #3, Phoebe #1

i guess you're fine then. .-.

if this is just for clearing. but if you're in master mode

you need more fairies.

[woven pebble]

Yesyes

[woven pebble]

UM

[vapid notch]

use lucas, ss steeven, zygarde

[woven pebble]

Um

[undone ether]

shrug

[woven pebble]

Wait this will be my #2

[undone ether]

why is SS Steven w/ Zygarde

you're gonna have problems with Gauge issues

[vapid notch]

for iron defense, lucas raises speed

[undone ether]

i see...

I'd still see it with Hilbert

cuz instant crit up and evasion

and SS Steven can be in another team.

or Skyla

[elder talon]

These are the pairs I beat MM 850p with. Do I have any chance of beating 1500p with them or should I change some stuff? I can post my pairs if it can help with recommendations

Keep in mind that most of these pairs are 1/5 with minimal or no grid

[toxic cobalt]

Well Phoebe and Glacia will work

Just go straight to 2k with Phoebe lol

[elder talon]

Yeah I did that before and destroyed her

I was thinking of doing 2k Phoebe and 1k Sydney to balance it, since 1.5k Sydney seems impossible with only noland even though he's fully gridded

[toxic cobalt]

I do advise just stalling Sydney

Who is gridded?

[elder talon]

So I could do him first with maybe Venusaur Skyla and another?

[obtuse hound]

good for sidney? they all don't have lucky skills, only ghetsis is gridded. these are the last three types i need for this medal.

[elder talon]

Of the ones pictured, Noland Hop Misty Skyla

[toxic cobalt]

Venusaur Skyla and Janine might work

[toxic cobalt]

It might work simply through the sheer power of Ghetsis.

[obtuse hound]

he's gridded for noble roar utility right now

is that still good?

[elder talon]

If you have masked royal I recommend him over Aaron though. I used him in hard mode and made the fight a joke

[obtuse hound]

unfortunately i don't :/

[elder talon]

Also how do you not have master mode unlocked but already have lvl135 pairs. I've unlocked MM but barely have anyone over 120

[toxic cobalt]

Ghetsis is good yes

Noble roar Sydney until he can't hurt you anymore

[elder talon]

I could give this a try. Do I just reset if I don't get poison before first sync?

[obtuse hound]

um..level cap?

idk

[toxic cobalt]

Reset if you don't get it turn 1. 50% chance.

[elder talon]

Yeah like I mean how did you get so many resources lol

Alright I'll give it a try ty

I could also use Ghetsis with Noble roar though no?

[toxic cobalt]

Yep, you can also do that.

[elder talon]

Instead of janine I mean

I'll give both a try ty

[toxic cobalt]

Ghetsis is usually limited by speed but if you're literally using Skyla he'll work great

Remember not to use SS Leaf tm until after she syncs

[obtuse hound]

i tend to have gauge issues

this is as far as i got before i lost

my attacker is sidney

is there a better bug i can use or what else can i do

seed bomb took the other two out so fast despite being at least -5 attack

like a one hit ko

[toxic cobalt]

Do you have to finish those specific types this battle?

[obtuse hound]

nah i still have steven but

bug dark and or ice for steven?

[toxic cobalt]

Depends on your steven team. Who have you got?

[obtuse hound]

you can finish types with the champion battle right?

[obtuse hound]

didn't decide one yet

wanna take a look at my pairs?

i already used ss leaf btw

[toxic cobalt]

Can I see your supports?

[obtuse hound]

these are my supports

[compact hinge]

Guys I need your help! I try to beat sydney 2k with ash... Can someone help me building a Team to beat him without ex Support and without cookie?

This was my Best but I dont want to use ssa cynthia

[keen jasper]

Why are you using Giovanni?

[compact hinge]

For fliching and Masters passive buff

[toxic cobalt]

I recommend getting Leaf Roxanne Smorty and MIstyduck up

[keen jasper]

Red's B Move is a guaranteed crit when under electric terrain

[toxic cobalt]

Smorty especially will be great against Steven

[obtuse hound]

that's not using any of the types

that i need

[toxic cobalt]

You only need 3 between two battles right?

[obtuse hound]

yes.

ice dark buf

bug*

[toxic cobalt]

Why does the opponent have such high buffs still?

[obtuse hound]

i don't know. i tried the battle again and it went worse. sidney was at least -5

when seed bomb destroyed

i also have nothing to lower opponents defense in that team.

[toxic cobalt]

I'm surprised Aaron is dying so fast

If you try again, switch Sydney our for Nanu. Try to get some flinches

[compact hinge]

What Supports can I use for Sidney stage 2k? I use ash in that team

[toxic cobalt]

SS Blue?

[compact hinge]

Should I use 2 Supports?

Who else would be good? Ssred/ blue and+

[toxic cobalt]

Well ash really doesn't want for much. You could always use Volkner to make Ash even more powerful

[compact hinge]

Sry i got hem weong, i mean i use Ssp Red on Sidney stage sry...

[toxic cobalt]

Redchu also doesn't ask for much

Just crit, and SSB can give crit

So it's a free slot for whatever you want to put in. I often just through acerola in for easy flinches.

[dark osprey]

Actually he doesn't need crit due to his passive which always crits

[toxic cobalt]

Yes ignore me

Here I thought he might need something

[dark osprey]

Maybe a defog user or another zone setter maybe if you're not able to pre sync

[full mesa]

RedChu needs speed for long battles.

[toxic cobalt]

Does he though?

[full mesa]

And defensive buffs

[dark osprey]

Speed. Don't think so tbh

[toxic cobalt]

B-volt is 2bar

[full mesa]

Battles that last for more than 12 turns.

[dark osprey]

Acceleration under terrain too

[compact hinge]

The Problem is I die really fast again sidney

What would be the best 2k options for Redchu? With Status conditions i guess

I cant do pre sync

[toxic cobalt]

If you die really fast use someone like Mistyduck for defence and potions

And sync with SSB first

[compact hinge]

My ssb blue isnt ex...

[toxic cobalt]

So?

[full mesa]

You don't sync for double sync buff. You sync for safety net and more stats. Unless of course you die on the opponent's sync move. Then it's useless.

[compact hinge]

I dont die now on sync move but I dont do enough dmg with sspikachu Red with psyduck and ssblue

[long thicket]

I currently struggle getting damage on Steven, even for regular mode.

[keen jasper]

What's your team?

[long thicket]

Usually Brendan and Sygna Lyra together.

[keen jasper]

Sun setter?

[long thicket]

I have 5/5 Sygna Erika for that as an option.

[keen jasper]

Who's your tank?

[long thicket]

Tried Dawn, but I can easily switch.

Brendan has a lucky skill preventing Leaf Storm from dropping stats, btw.

[keen jasper]

You have SS Morty?

[long thicket]

No.

[keen jasper]

Yes, and what's his sync level?

[long thicket]

5/5 too.

[keen jasper]

I think SS Erika would be better than Brendan unless you plan to replace SS Lyra (which is most likely the answer is no)

[long thicket]

Well, I did it, but that was a little close.

[keen jasper]

With who, the same team?

[long thicket]

Switched Lyra for Erika.

[latent token]

I struggle with phoebe

Hard lvl 1

[keen jasper]

Ah, yeah, the sun boost is much better than flinching

[latent token]

Level 4

[keen jasper]

You should've done Phoebe at round 1

[latent token]

Dang

[keen jasper]

Because she's vulnerable to paralyze

[elder talon]

Ily

[toxic cobalt]

?

[elder talon]

Stalling him worked, definitely the only way I had to beat hit at 1.5k

Now I can try to beat all of them with 1.5k and get sync orbs and such

I was saying ily because your advice worked lol

[toxic cobalt]

When in doubt, stall

[elder talon]

Yeah I'll keep it in mind lol

[sacred scroll]

Why was Sidney so difficult this week in CSMM?

[mellow linden]

We don’t have many super-strong Bug types and most of the strongest Bug types use Sp. Atk.

Plus he just deals a bunch of damage

[sacred scroll]

Is Sidney this week just more naturally specially defensive?

[mellow linden]

He has Snarl

Makes it harder to max your damage on a lot of the strongest Bug types

[wary obsidian]

What are the most common teams that can off type

[sacred scroll]

Makes sense, thank you

[mellow linden]

Usually less teams as a whole and more specific Sync Pairs since a lot of teams need 1 or 2 specific Sync Pairs and then the 3rd as either a general role or pure filler.

SS Serena, SS Lusamine + Psychic Terrain setter, SS Korrina + SSR Cynthia, Ash + SST Red, and I think 3/5 SS Giovanni are all common off-type options that I know off the top of my head

[toxic cobalt]

Some good examples here #1011364212905353266 message

[obtuse hound]

as close as i got with sidney, aaron and ghetsis.

help?

problem is sidney wasn't dealing enough damage

should i change what im using?

i have to use bug ice and dark

lusamine instead of aaron? grimsley instead of sidney

this is r4 btw

[mellow linden]

You have Karen, by any chance?

[wary obsidian]

Cool thanks

[mellow linden]

Not exactly my favorite choice since she uses Sp. Atk. and Bug weak Sidney has Snarl, but Karen might be better at damage output and can buff her own Sp. Atk./crit

[obtuse hound]

nah just grimsley and sidney

[mellow linden]

Grimsley might work

He could steal Sidney’s buffs, at least

[elder talon]

Alright Olivia lycanrock does not do enough dmg to drake without grid

I'm wondering, I have Phoebe and Drake left. I was trying pmarnie hop Olivia to fight Drake on round 3 because of the stat lowering, but I'm wondering if I should do Phoebe 3 since she'll be an easy fight thanks to red and Ash, and leave Drake for 4th. His speed lowering is brutal at 3rd round

[simple storm]

Doesnt r4 have sync countdown

[elder talon]

Yeah

Bad idea to give Drake a quicker sync?

[simple storm]

Very bad

[elder talon]

pain

[simple storm]

Ash and red benefit from it since they set up so quick

[elder talon]

I might need to settle for doing Drake at 1k max instead of 1.5

[simple storm]

And like red sync in terrain and then b move should do the stage

[simple storm]

Have u used cyrus+rain+ex support

[elder talon]

Oh yeah Phoebe is super easy with both Ash and red

The only ex support I have is Cynthia and I used her for glacia

[simple storm]

U could try using a rain or sun team for offtype

[elder talon]

Tbh I was thinking pmarnie hop solgaleo

[simple storm]

Steel zone works too

Same thing

[elder talon]

I'll wait till tomorrow then because I don't have enough sync orbs to use on solgaleo

[simple storm]

Sound good

Sync with marnie

Steel zone 1 turn before sync so u get the max value

[elder talon]

Like in general? I thought just the first

[simple storm]

Yeah since marnie does have a good nuke compardd to the other 2

[elder talon]

Oh alright ty

[obtuse hound]

best way to get 4* level up manuals besides trainer lodge? i'm fresh out and running out of time

[elder talon]

Getting 4* is difficult besides the training stage. You can get 3* from events though, and if you're really desperate you can farm the Ash stage that gives 5k exp for no stamina

[real stag]

Is this an okay team for Phoebe

Don’t have Ash and these two are really the only good electric type attackers I have

Unless you consider any of these good

[mellow linden]

Elesa is way better than MC Pika

[toxic cobalt]

Either team should manage it damage wise. Problem is nothing to defend against special attacks.

[frosty axle]

Done CS hard on my reroll accounts now unfortunately too late for Sinnoh medal https://discord.com/channels/583120259708616715/1015355462742446145

[grim island]

I am having troubles to defeat Glacia (CS MM - aiming for 5,5k - I'm at 3,2k for the moment), can someone help?
I've tried Bea (1/5, EXd) SSA Cynthia (1/5, EXd) + Hilbert (4/5, EXd) but the foe's Blizzard kill me in the end 😦

[frosty axle]

Maybe replacing one of your supports for a healer

besides Cynthia potion

since it doesn't get much at 1/5

[grim island]

Like SS Leaf?

[frosty axle]

What about Eevee, have you used it?

[grim island]

Not yet but I still have this

[elder talon]

If you still need help, I used Bea 1/5, SSA Cynthia 1/5 EX, and Medicham 4* 5/5 and did it pretty easily

[wary obsidian]

Possible without Cynthia?

[elder talon]

It's definitely possible, just a lot harder

[wary obsidian]

Do you think I can just offtype this. I don't have good fighting and bug team so was thinking to off type those two

I have Bianca+sssteven and ssethan+sskriss. Do you think any of those team can do these 2 stages

[quaint solar]

Who Don you have to off type

[junior crown]

or poison stall at least one

I believe both should be able to offtype, but it's better to leave the best team for R4, maybe on type

[wary obsidian]

im on round 3 drake. using olivia 3/5 bertha 2/5 and hilbert 2/5. cannot do it pre sync and die to first sync even with the post sync parameter

[junior crown]

You prob need a def buffer

[keen jasper]

Can't Bertha do it?

[junior crown]

let olivia buff herself and use someone that raise def

[wary obsidian]

maybe i try skyla then?

[keen jasper]

Actually, I did use Skyla, Bertha and Olivia against Drake

But I did it on round 2

[wary obsidian]

olivia doenst fully buff atk tho

[keen jasper]

It's still enough

[junior crown]

Skyla can give +2 atk on sync

[keen jasper]

None of my team against Drake is EX-ed

[wary obsidian]

but i have to sync with oliva right with this build

[junior crown]

but if you're pos sync

don't need +6

[wary obsidian]

ok i'll try

[junior crown]

I tested SS Kris + SS Ethan and they work

[keen jasper]

I mean, they were made for each other anyways

[junior crown]

but I have EX Kris and used EX Falkner too...

[wary obsidian]

think ill save that for bug weak tho

[junior crown]

already used SS Steven?

[wary obsidian]

not yet

i have a good grass team so i should be fine for steven. should i just off type rock and bug

[junior crown]

Maybe save Steves for Sidney, I think SS Steven hits harder

[wary obsidian]

i see

i'll try a bit with skyla and oliva first

[keen jasper]

At least with Bertha, you can damage then with multiple fields

And also trap them

I also funnily killed Drake's last side with the sandstorm, trap and Stealth Rock DoT all at once

[junior crown]

You can offtype with other pairs, (I offtyped Drake with Gio BP Morty and Egg Gengar on R4)

I wanted a 10k F2P offtype

[wary obsidian]

oliva didn't survive sync with full def buff : /

is it cuz i'm lvl 120

[keen jasper]

Did you quad queue?

[junior crown]

what is her lvl?

uhm

[wary obsidian]

can i even quad queue with sand storm tho

[keen jasper]

You can if you reapply it before sync

[wary obsidian]

but idk how to do quad queuing properly so i never was able to

[junior crown]

quad queue is game changing honestly

[keen jasper]

It actually really is

[junior crown]

You should try it

don't set sandstorm on first round

it breaks the quad queue

[wary obsidian]

ok this is my order: olivia atk>skyla tm>bertha field>olivia atk>skyla tm>bertha tm>olivia tm>skyla tm>bertha sandstorm>olivia sync

oh

[junior crown]

do stalth rock or sand tomb instead

[keen jasper]

Bertha has preemptive sandstorm so you don't have to waste 1 sandstorm at the very beginning

[junior crown]

since it's rock weak stealth rock might be better

[keen jasper]

Do her TM to boost Olivia's crit

[wary obsidian]

sorry when i said field i mean stealth rock

i boosted olivia crit before she attacks

[keen jasper]

Oops wrong reply

[junior crown]

then it should be Stealth Rock > TM > Sandstorm

[keen jasper]

Oh well, but still, Bertha's TM

[wary obsidian]

but i shouldn't sand storm before 1st sync or it mess up queue?

[keen jasper]

You use Bertha's sandstorm

Reapply it

[junior crown]

reapply it on turn 3

right before sync

[wary obsidian]

oh and i should still be able to quad queue

[keen jasper]

Exactly

[wary obsidian]

so i always sandstorm the round before olivia sync

[keen jasper]

Yeah

[livid kettle]

Ooh god I hate Sydney so much. Thanks everyone for the advice. Just finished my first ever 10k run

[keen jasper]

Nice work

[frank shuttle]

Soooo lvl 70 Red and Ash wrecked them 😂

[keen jasper]

2k?

[frank shuttle]

This was master

[frank shuttle]

Ash pretty much one-shotted 😂

[keen jasper]

Yeah, his B Move is absolutely insane

[frank shuttle]

Yeah it did like 19k lol

[wary obsidian]

sorry for the long post below, but is this correct order for quadqueuing: olivia x-atk
skyla tm
bertha stealth rock
olivia x-atk
skyla tm
bertha tm
olivia tm
skyla tm
bertha sandstorm
olivia sync
skyla potion/gust
bertha rocktomb

olivia stone edge
skyla potion/gust
bertha rocktomb

olivia stone edge
skyla potion/gust
bertha sandstorm

olivia stone edge
olivia sync

[keen jasper]

Maybe be specific by writing the turns of the actions

[frank shuttle]

Do they nerf people in this game 😂

[wary obsidian]

so the person that sync first will have to use his/her attack last before the next sync right?

[keen jasper]

Like:
Turn 1: Olivia TM ---> Skyla TM --> Bertha TM

[wary obsidian]

oh ok

turn 1: olivia x-atk -> skyla tm -> bertha stealth rock
turn 2: olivia x-atk -> skyla tm -> bertha tm
turn 3: olivia tm -> skyla tm -> bertha sandstorm
olivia sync
turn 4: skyla potion/gust -> bertha rocktomb -> olivia stone edge
turn 5: skyla potion/gust -> bertha rocktomb -> olivia stone edge
turn 6: skyla potion/gust -> bertha sandstorm -> olivia stone edge
olivia sync

[keen jasper]

Rotation seems ok

[wary obsidian]

hmm idk why i cant quad queue then, maybe skill issue

[keen jasper]

You have to time your tap after your sync

[wary obsidian]

my tap for olivia?

i just keep spamming tapping during sync animation : /

[keen jasper]

Yeah, that's what I do too, but I also try to spam tap while timing it correctly

[wary obsidian]

wait, i think its cuz i dont have enough gauge : /

[keen jasper]

Or that too

[wary obsidian]

maybe i need to do skyla > bertha

i mean bertha > skyla

[keen jasper]

Just use Rock Throw for Olivia instead if you run out of gauges for Olivia

[wary obsidian]

oh

yea ig

yea rock throw fixed it lol

in this case i should do presync para right

[junior crown]

turn 4: skyla potion/gust -> bertha rocktomb -> olivia stone edge

at turn 4 are you with enough gauge for olivia?

maybe use bertha tm here

[keen jasper]

S/he already said that Rock Throw fixed the gauge problem

[junior crown]

oh ok

on second rotaiton you want sandstorm on turn 5

cuz it'll end there and Olivia will do 1 attack without it

[wary obsidian]

oh i see

thx its looking better now

just fishing for crit : /

[keen jasper]

That's usually the problem with most sync nukers

Unless they have Soften Up

[wary obsidian]

omg finally had a pretty good run and got wrecked by heatwave

[keen jasper]

Did you trap both of the sides?

[wary obsidian]

i'm trying but selecting target is slowing me down and im failing the quadqueue now : /

[junior crown]

try at lower game speed

and don't let Olivia's HP drop a lot

[keen jasper]

You need to hope to MP refresh on Skyla's TM

[junior crown]

and maybe do one more bertha's TM to raise more sp def too

Like Stealth Rock -> TM -> Sandstorm -> TM -> Sandstorm -> Rocktomb (side) -> Rocktomb (other side)

[wary obsidian]

hmm so the enemy queued a move before my first sync animation

[keen jasper]

Olivia self-lowers her own Sp. Def. so you kinda really need MP refresh on Bertha's TM

[wary obsidian]

what could be the problem for that

[keen jasper]

Did sandstorm wear off?

[wary obsidian]

maybe didnt see clearly lol

[keen jasper]

The only reason why the enemy could queue is because of a field wearing off during your sync

[wary obsidian]

omg i did it!!!!!

bertha killed with trap and she had like 1% hp left

[junior crown]

GG

[wary obsidian]

thank u guys

now hopefully i can off type bug and get my first 10k

4th round tho. so its like hard mode : /

[junior crown]

should've done Sidney R2

[wary obsidian]

yea probably...

[junior crown]

try SS Steven

[wary obsidian]

i do not want to redo rock stage tho lol

i'll try to throw my best units at it lol

maybe ss steven bianca sskriss

[junior crown]

just don't use rain on turn 1 to quad queue

ops

it's R4

so it doesn't matter

do Rain turn 1...

[wary obsidian]

XD

dammit steven dies on sync even after cancelling dark field

[junior crown]

it says mid is mainly physical, so maybe his sync is physical

so try a tank that raises def instead of ss kris

[wary obsidian]

yea... i died through full spdef, psychic field and protect

[junior crown]

do you have BP Morty for exemple?

[wary obsidian]

i do

[junior crown]

wait

he is weak to sidney

[wary obsidian]

oh

[junior crown]

My problem with Sidney is that Dark + Grass is strong agains many tanks

[wary obsidian]

i have ssblue?

[grim island]

It worked, thanks 😄

[junior crown]

Yeah SS Blue might do it

[wary obsidian]

ok ill try

omgggg

i survived with full def and protect, but he has to snarl me before i can get my 2nd sync

[keen jasper]

Do you have Darach @wary obsidian ?

[wary obsidian]

no : (

[keen jasper]

Oh well, you're dead to Sidney's sync unless you have a zone or Defog unit

[wary obsidian]

i was using bianca

[keen jasper]

Bianca is terrain, not zone

[wary obsidian]

oh i thought it cancel it since it replaced the icon hmm

so i was still under dark zone wow

[keen jasper]

You can try to reset for 10k

Change the order of the E4

[wary obsidian]

: |

[keen jasper]

I just destroyed Sidney at round 4 with my SC Emmet

Without SC Ingo

[junior crown]

you can try it until he doesn't use snarl...

but it'll take longer

[wary obsidian]

do u think it'll help if isync with blue first to get endurance

[junior crown]

you could try going more defensive

with SS Blue + SS Kris + SS Steven

[keen jasper]

Endurance won't help against sync

[wary obsidian]

oh

[keen jasper]

Sidney will hit exponentially hard with dark zone active

[junior crown]

but Endurance helps against normal damages

is you SSB EXed?

[wary obsidian]

i was able to survive sync with protect and full def if i'm full health

no blue isnt ex

[junior crown]

uhm

try one time with SS Blue + SS Kris + SS Steven just to see if you survive longer and are able to do better with that

[wary obsidian]

but does kriss help? all the attacks are physical

[keen jasper]

What's SS Kris for?

[junior crown]

SP Def + Heal

snarl is special

[wary obsidian]

o

[keen jasper]

Fair enough

[wary obsidian]

i'll try

[keen jasper]

And I guess SS Steven will be the damage dealer?

[junior crown]

yeah

[keen jasper]

Even though he's weak to dark?

[wary obsidian]

he is? : |

[junior crown]

yes he is

[keen jasper]

So Snarl will just straight up kill Steven

[wary obsidian]

maybe i just use ssethan than if i'm not using psychic terrain anyways lol