🌙 Sleeping/waking up counting

[fierce sundial]

I saw a research that says eveninng bright light exposure might be the solution for early morning insomnia

[rapid mirage]

You're right

I tried it it made my sleep SO GOOD aand wake up so good too

[fierce sundial]

Either I wasn't doing it properly or it wasn't working on me

[fierce sundial]

Great

Didn't work for me

Curtains and blindfolds worked better

[fierce sundial]

Wait it's supposed to make you wake up later according to the research

Is that the reason why you're waking up at around 10-12 so often

[rapid mirage]

oh

[rapid mirage]

Oh

I thought it made you sleepy

Guess that's placebo

[rapid mirage]

No, I onl;y started doing it a few days ago

[fierce sundial]

The treatment is mainly for the people who wake up at ungodly hours (like me)

But the thing is it didn't quite work

I did the correlation test with my data and it actually made my sleep quality decrease

[fierce sundial]

It's the placebo effect always

[fierce sundial]

It's making you sleepy later in the evening rather than earlier

[rapid mirage]

AAAAA

I LOST MY DATA FOR MAY 22ND

[rapid mirage]

Welp, I go to sleep so late maybe it helps me go to sleep earlier

[rapid mirage]

Oh.

[fierce sundial]

I'll probably try my best to remember what it was if it was me

[rapid mirage]

Oopsies

[rapid mirage]

It was more than a year ago

[fierce sundial]

Try doing the opposite of it, early morning bright lights

[rapid mirage]

lemme see if I said goodnight to anyone then

[fierce sundial]

I would've deleted the chart if it was me

[rancid hull]

Was it that bad?

[fierce sundial]

Really bad

[shrewd harbor]

75 (11:07)

[fierce sundial]

I can't find it but I'll try

[rapid mirage]

23:01

YES

I SAID GOODNIGHT TO SOMEONE

YESSS

I AM SO HAPPY

[rapid mirage]

I do both versions

They both help me a lot

[rapid mirage]

why

I love data

The bet in productive counting saved me from going through the same fate

WOOO

A FULL YEAR OF DATA

[fierce sundial]

Guess what I found

I retrieved almost a month of how fucked up my wake cycles were in 2022

[rapid mirage]

Oooo niceee

[fierce sundial]

23 out of 37 were horrible awakenings

@rapid mirage @rancid hull Here's my fucked up wake cycles in early 2022

It wasn't 90% as I thought but still 62% bad awakenings is still horrible

23 out of 37

Also I wasn't tracking precisely at that time but I remembered that those with 5 blue squares are from 6:48 - 6:59 and not 7:00 so those are horrible times too

[rapid mirage]

No wonder I didn't get any presents

[rapid mirage]

That's not that bad lol

[fierce sundial]

You think 62% horrible times ain't bad

Let me rephrase it for you

For 8 days that exist there was 5 days in which I woke up at a horrible time

I'm rounding fractions now for the sake of making people understand stats

[rapid mirage]

What the hell my sleep in 2022 was so good

[rapid mirage]

Come on those times aren't bad

[fierce sundial]

There's no way to tell without waking up times

[fierce sundial]

7 good times out of 37 days

Look the good times are standing out because of how rare it was to wake up good back then

What simpler fraction can I represent 7/37

[fierce sundial]

I'd say the same with some of your 10 am's

[rapid mirage]

time for another

[rapid mirage]

none

[fierce sundial]

Yeah none were close to it

But come on

[rapid mirage]

Lol, I guess 10am isn't THAT bad but it feels horrible

[fierce sundial]

I'd say your 11 am's are bad but 10 ams are not that bad

I think it's easier to fix a naturally late wake schedule than a naturally early wake schedule

If I had your body clock I'll just set an alarm at 9 or something to not make it too late

[fierce sundial]

I remember myself being so happy about those 7-9s because those are so damn rare

My sleep cycles stayed roughly the same as it is now but my wake cycles were so horrible back then

I think I need to prepare for sleep now

And thank myself that my wake schedule isn't as bad as it was in 2022

I talked a lot here today

Also a meme that my past self made:

[rapid mirage]

Done

I have most of 2022 done

[rapid mirage]

awww

That is me right now

[rapid mirage]

Go on, sleep well

Looks like 2024 had the most shitty sleep

[rapid mirage]

me too

[rapid mirage]

current: 75

[shrewd harbor]

I am going to sleep before 4:15am so that the count stays positive

[rapid mirage]

Good

76 19:04

77 19:17

[rapid mirage]

I think i wasted a lot of time on that

[rapid mirage]

I get tired like 40 minutes within my bedtime

[rapid mirage]

I want to sleep now but someone is in the shower

I should have brushed my teeth earlier god damn it

UGH

I WANNA GO TO SLEEP

[ashen valve]

lol

isnt it like 11:30 for u or smtg?

[rapid mirage]

Yes it is

I go to sleep now bye bye

:(

bruh

Everything is making me not sleep

Ok

I can finally sleep

82 23:47 🛏️💤

[fierce sundial]

83 84 💤 0:23

85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 🌅 8:30

93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112
🛏️ 8h 7m total

113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131
Sleep quality 96%

[shrewd harbor]

oh good now I don't have to sleep until 5:11

[fierce sundial]

If you do that I'll count my sleep quality tomorrow as 1 point each

[fierce sundial]

Seeing this is way too unsatisfying as a stats enthusiast

If I had no data points I'll probably discard everything before so I'll have a complete data set

[rancid hull]

130 (00:02)

[rapid mirage]

HAHAHAHA

135 07:52 ☀️

[rapid mirage]

Welp I don't want to waste all that time so I won't do anything about it

[rapid mirage]

You monster

LOL

THE LAZY SHITS ARE STILL ASLEEP

[rapid mirage]

I WOKE UP NATURALLY WITHOUT MY SISTERS OR A ALARM

Hahahahhahahaaa

THIS IS SO GOOD

OHHHH YEAH

[shrewd harbor]

136 (3:45) [today is exempt from the rule.]

[fierce sundial]

I never trust my natural clock so I set an alarm almost always

[rapid mirage]

I set one but I woke up 2 seconds before it rung

Lol

[fierce sundial]

You can trust your natural cycles
I cannot

We're different

[rapid mirage]

Nuh uh

I set an alarm

[fierce sundial]

I see but you still trusted your body clock right

[rapid mirage]

gut instinct told me alarm was gonna go off so I checked phone and it said 07:51:58

[rapid mirage]

not at all

[fierce sundial]

Wow

Gut instinct

[rapid mirage]

I'd wake up at 6am if I woke up when I felt like it

[fierce sundial]

Hmm

Well I never trust my natural body clock

If I trusted my natural body clock I'd probably get something like this from 2022

[rapid mirage]

Lol for good reason

[fierce sundial]

In fact I actually did trust my natural body clock at some point and it gave shit results so I stopped trusting it anyway

Around this part of the year I trusted my body clock and this happens

Looks a lot like my 2022

[rapid mirage]

There is such a weak correlation between my sleep and waking times

[rapid mirage]

Lol that;s horrible

[fierce sundial]

I counted 12 bad awakenings in June

Also I finished the monthly average thing

Lol 53 sleep quality average in June

And 5:29 total hours

[fierce sundial]

Wow you put it in one single sheet

Try adding total hours

Formula is like this

[rapid mirage]

it was temporary

[fierce sundial]

Oh

It would be great if it was on the same sheet so it can be compared easily

[rapid mirage]

however

I am missing too much data for this

I'll change it back

[fierce sundial]

The duration looks really nice

Mostly 7s and 8s

[rapid mirage]

"mostly"

[fierce sundial]

Yeah I use that word quite often instead of "all"

[rapid mirage]

yea you should have seen the state of it when I was at school

[fierce sundial]

Oh

[rapid mirage]

6 hours every day

[fierce sundial]

School makes it really impossible to get 8 hours of sleep

[rapid mirage]

and 1 hour awake each day makes 7 hours not very good

i do not fall asleep instantly so

[rapid mirage]

For you yes

[fierce sundial]

To get 8 hours of sleep it's either go to sleep at a ridiculously early time or be late for school which both of them are not worth it

I know another one way to get 8 hours sleep in school but it's not quite 8 hours
The 4+4 hour sleep schedule which is also ridiculous

[fierce sundial]

For you school starts at 9 so it should be possible to get 8 hours

For me it starts at 7 or 8

[rapid mirage]

Lol yeah

[rapid mirage]

Yeah I could stick with my current schedule

[rapid mirage]

7:26 looking better always

[rapid mirage]

138 100% quality

140 7 hours 40 minutes

Hm

Idk, maybe I should just make 23:40 the latest I can sleep..

Then I could wake at 7:26am

[fierce sundial]

I have my criteria in #1209664199702085733 to add 10 if I sleep between 23:30 and 00:30 on weekends

I don't want to go any earlier than 23:30 when it comes to weekends because it might detune my circadian rhythm earlier

[rapid mirage]

exactly what I want to do

I naturally wake up at 7:52 right now

Ok ok

I want to wake up 26 minutes earlier, I sleep 26 minutes earlier

[fierce sundial]

Easier said than done

My 2022 self literally thought I want to wake up 1 hour later I sleep 1 hour later
That became failure and my sleep schedule was almost ruined along the way

[rapid mirage]

we'll see

I'm not you :)

[fierce sundial]

Yeah good luck with that

I guess waking up earlier is easier than waking up later

[rapid mirage]

Incorrect

But

That's ok

[fierce sundial]

Nah it's correct from experience

[rapid mirage]

Fine we have different experiences

[fierce sundial]

Tuning my body clock to wake up later was very hard

[fierce sundial]

True

[rapid mirage]

To wake up later just sleep really late

[fierce sundial]

My 2022 self did that a lot and did not work

Some days I went to sleep as late as 1:50 my mother caught me and I woke up at 6 anyways

Ngl if my 2022 self continued with the sleeping late thing I'd have a sleep schedule of 5-6 am

1 hour of sleep

[rapid mirage]

Damn lol

I'd have just accepted waking up at 6

[fierce sundial]

My 2022 wake schedule was that messed up

[rapid mirage]

it's okay

[fierce sundial]

Yeah at least it's better now

I'm seeing some real progress in 2024

Wait I remembered that it was not my fault why my wake schedules were so messed up in 2022

It was something to do with a broken roof that didn't get repaired or something

Nah it was a door

It was a transparent door that let sunlight in at ungodly hours and hard to cover

I got a new room sometime in 2023 so that improved my wake schedules

[rapid mirage]

Oh

I see then

not your fault then

[rancid hull]

135 (10:36)

[shrewd harbor]

136 (13:42)

[rapid mirage]

137 20:00

138 20:06

[rapid mirage]

143 21:21 🛏️💤

heheh

[rapid mirage]

144 00:11

Fuck my sisters they are so annoying

They scream at this time of the night and wake me up and I can't get back to sleep

I ensured it for a whole hour

And now bed is too hot to sleep in ugh

[rapid mirage]

I really hate my sisters when they do this

Well it's time to sleep again I can't do this

145 Second attempt 00:36 🛏️💤

[fierce sundial]

Lol you're sleeping ridiculously early

146 💤 23:30
147 148 149 150 151 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166
🌅 7:30

167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186
🛏️ 8h total

187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 202 203 204 205 206
Sleep quality 95%

[rancid hull]

210 (22:44)

[rapid mirage]

211 06:27

Oh my god fuck this

It's all because of my sisters and my mum's cousins cat

Like come on

They're banging on the door so often

I can't sleep

[rapid mirage]

Genuinely fuck this

212 06:48 ☀️

[rapid mirage]

Sleep quality: 75%

215 7 hours 55 minutes (genuinely impressive for the distractions)

[fierce sundial]

I feel quite lucky now that I don't have siblings and my parents are quiet during dark hours

Back when I was a child I wanted a sibling to play with but now
Thank my parents they didn't give me a sibling

[rapid mirage]

I wish I was an only child again lol

[fierce sundial]

Lol

[rapid mirage]

It's already bad enough with my mum's cousin

[fierce sundial]

Only child the best feeling

[rapid mirage]

He blasts tiktok at full volume

[rapid mirage]

Yeah it was

[fierce sundial]

My cousins are no problem also

[rapid mirage]

Good

Well there's no point in staying in bed is there

[fierce sundial]

Ungodly hour awakenings and not being able to sleep are my worst nightmares

[rapid mirage]

It's ok I slept enough

[fierce sundial]

I wish that I'll never sleep like this again

[rapid mirage]

Most important sleep happens between 8-12pm

So most likely, I did the recovering in that time

[rapid mirage]

Lol

[fierce sundial]

Nah it happens from 7am past

[rapid mirage]

I'm fine with 6 it's just the fact I got woke up at 23:51 and kept awake for 40 minutes

[rapid mirage]

Nuh uh

[fierce sundial]

21:21 - 6:27 sounds like the worst possible sleep schedule to me

[rapid mirage]

Lol

[fierce sundial]

It would not be 0 in my sleep quality scale but -6

I haven't set a conditional for extreme early bedtimes like this but I'll do something like that if I ever get a sleep like that

0 for waking up at 6 and then -6 for going to sleep 39 minutes before the border

[rapid mirage]

Not bad

I would have got sufficient sleep

[fierce sundial]

6:27 is the opposite of refreshing

[rapid mirage]

I'm so glad I'm not you

[fierce sundial]

Well I can say the same

I'm so glad that I'm not you that has noisy family members

[rapid mirage]

no I didn't mean it literally

I meant it like I'm so glad I'm not bothered about 6am

[fierce sundial]

And I'm so glad that I'm not bothered by family members

[rapid mirage]

You would be if your family members were mine

[fierce sundial]

My family members are good nowadays

[rapid mirage]

Very good

[fierce sundial]

Very good indeed

I just tell them I get a headache when waking up at 6

They will not be noisy at 6

They'll be thinking "it's still the dark hours for someone in the family, so don't make a noise"

[rapid mirage]

I'm glad your family is considerate

It's just my sisters

[fierce sundial]

Well they weren't considerate 2 years ago tho

[rapid mirage]

It's impossible for them not to talk for 1 minute while awake unless they stare at a TV

[rapid mirage]

At least they are now

[fierce sundial]

Yeah

Back in 2 years ago it was a nightmare

Imagine your sister cloned itself 10 times

[rapid mirage]

Uh no you don't know how bad they are

The reason I was unaffected by them in the past was because I also had shit sleep schedules

So I'd always be asleep after them

[fierce sundial]

Sometimes my parents would bring guests at really messed up hours and they talk a lot like people are awake

That was 2022 tho

[rapid mirage]

I'm not bothered by other people talking

It's just when they SCREAM

[fierce sundial]

True

[rapid mirage]

Imma get up because my body will associate bed with awake if I keep this up

[fierce sundial]

When I try to go back to sleep tho it seems like normal talking is screaming

[rapid mirage]

216 07:21 gettting up

[fierce sundial]

Good

When I wake up at ungodly hours I don't get up immediately and I wait until 7am so that my body does not associate 6am with waking up

[rapid mirage]

This is the time I wanted to get up at

~7:25

[rapid mirage]

Lol I did that

[fierce sundial]

Same I want to get up at around 7-9

I don't have the exact best time to wake up but I know that 7-9 is the best

[rapid mirage]

there goes my alarm

[rapid mirage]

Good

[fierce sundial]

I can't compare 7am and 8am ngl

[rapid mirage]

mine is 6-8

[fierce sundial]

Both have their advantages

5 - Only for getting up for school
6 - Real shit
7 - More prepared for the day while getting just enough sleep
8 - More sleep
9 - Even more sleep

I can't tell which hour is the best so I just say 7-9 is the best

[rapid mirage]

7am is the best

[fierce sundial]

I'm this indecisive

[rapid mirage]

Bruh

My sisters are still awake

[fierce sundial]

7 could be better to face the day earlier
But 8 is better for getting more sleep

And then I can't decide which one is better

[rapid mirage]

What the hell they're playing the switch

[rapid mirage]

I see I guess they're both good

[fierce sundial]

Did they pull an all nighter

[fierce sundial]

Yeah both good

[rapid mirage]

Feels like it

They barely had sleep

They're playing Minecraft

[fierce sundial]

They're having the time of their life

But tell them to respect the people who are still asleep

[rapid mirage]

uh I'm just concerned about them

5 hours of sleep for children isn't good

Lol

[fierce sundial]

Definitely not good

[fierce sundial]

What's the 1.5 at sunday

1.5 stars what's that

[rapid mirage]

it's today

[rapid mirage]

subjective rating

[fierce sundial]

Oh

[shrewd harbor]

the last count I could find was 215

[rapid mirage]

wow still awake

[shrewd harbor]

216 (2:59) [today is exempt from the rule]

[rapid mirage]

DAMN

SLEEPING AT :59

[fierce sundial]

Lol :59

:59 is something about boundaries

It could be the difference between early night (23:59) and midnight (00:00)

Or midnight and late night (00:59 / 01:00)

[rapid mirage]

it was 20 seconds off 3am lol

I'd have done color wars and that

[fierce sundial]

Lol screw rounded hours

[rapid mirage]

Fair enough

[shrewd harbor]

316 (10:53)

[rapid mirage]

317 17:23

318 17:30

[rancid hull]

This was a few hours ago but

325 woke up at 9:25

[fierce sundial]

326 💤 22:28

327 🌅 5:00

328 🛏️ 6h 32m total

329 330 331 332 333 334
Sleep quality 65%

[rapid mirage]

339 23:28 🛏️💤

[prime musk]

345 22:59 🛌 , 06:48 🛏️

[rancid hull]

340 (23:11 too late for a school night)

[shrewd harbor]

that is too little sleep

you should get an extra hour of sleep

[rapid mirage]

341 06:58 ☀️

before you say something

I NEED to get up early today

343 7 hours 9 minutes

344 96% quality

[shrewd harbor]

322 (3:22)

[rapid mirage]

I think I need more sleep

[rancid hull]

320 (06:47) overslept

[fierce sundial]

Underslept

I guess people are getting bad sleep now because of school

[rancid hull]

Yeah

[rapid mirage]

321 (20:31)

322 (20:38)

I conclude it's not a good idea to wake up early for no good reason

I should set my wake up time back to 7:52

[primal spear]

323 (22:41)

[fierce sundial]

324 💤 23:00

325 🌅 5:12

326 🛏️ 6h12m total

327 328 329 330 331 332
Sleep quality 62%

[rapid mirage]

337 22:51 🛏️💤

[timber island]

338 🌙

[rancid hull]

340 (23:01)

[primal spear]

341 (7:38)

[rapid mirage]

342 07:03 ☀️

I can't sleep it's too bright lol

344 7 hours 51 minutes

347 100% quality

omg

I literally have the same problem

I keep waking up too early

I take it back

It's so hard to wake up later

I woke up at 5:42

It's literally begging me to wake up at 6 too

mmm

[rapid mirage]

I added the wake logs on the right for convenience now

[rapid mirage]

The average person takes 15 minutes to fall asleep

[fierce sundial]

That's way better than your 6 am's

Just a few more days and you'll be waking up at the ideal 7:52

[fierce sundial]

Yeah your body wants to wake up as soon as it sees the sun

That's why some people find it hard to wake up later

[fierce sundial]

Reminds me of the time I woke up at 6 ungodly hour 3 days in a row

[rapid mirage]

No I am planning to sleep early so I can wake up at 6

Hahahahaaaa

I have literally the whole day until 14:05

[rapid mirage]

Yes I left the blinds open

[rapid mirage]

lol

[rancid hull]

345 (6:45)

[fierce sundial]

Looks like people are now ruining their wake cycles for school

I'm used to seeing ungodly hours here in this thread

[fierce sundial]

Ngl you were a better person when you woke up at 7-10 am

I just realized that early bedtime doesn't really matter for school days because I'm getting low quality sleep anyway

22:00-5:30 is 75 while 22:30-5:30 is 70

[rapid mirage]

I am the same person.

[rapid mirage]

Exactly if I can't wake up 6am+ why do I try

[rapid mirage]

30 minutes can make the difference between poor performance and good performance in the day

[shrewd harbor]

194 (5:31)
195 (11:55)

[shrewd harbor]

196 (leaving bed at 1:10)

[rapid mirage]

197 18:43

198 18:48

[timber island]

199 00:00

[primal spear]

200 00:21

[rapid mirage]

205 22:22 🛏️💤

[primal spear]

201*

[fierce sundial]

Hmm not that much difference for me

75 and 70 sleep quality almost the same

202 💤 22:34

203 🌅 5:33

204 🛏️ 6h59m total

205 206 207 208 209 210
Sleep quality 69% (nice)

[rancid hull]

212 (22:28)

[rapid mirage]

213 06:19 ☀️

This feels so good

Omg

I woke up for sunrise

Aaaaa

6am is a great time to wake up

215 7 hours 46 minutes

218 100% quality

[rapid mirage]

oh right

[rapid mirage]

sunrise:

[rapid mirage]

they are very different

[shrewd harbor]

175 (3:43)

[fierce sundial]

The sunrise made me depressed for at least 5 months in 2022

It did not feel good

[fierce sundial]

This is the line that I'll never say in my whole life

Me trying to go back to sleep at sunrise (at ungodly hours almost always) is the worst feeling

Getting awakened by the blinding sunrise at 6am feels so shit

[rapid mirage]

How could you say that

I felt my greatest now

Ever

[rapid mirage]

179 because that was sleeping at a good time

[rancid hull]

180 (06:47)

[fierce sundial]

One man's trash is another man's treasure

[fierce sundial]

Nah both are mid

[rancid hull]

There’s a small difference

[fierce sundial]

22:00-5:30 and 22:30-5:30 feels almost the same

Small difference but almost the same

I woke up at 5 either way

[fierce sundial]

Yeah small difference

[rancid hull]

But is 5:59 and 6:00 a big difference?

[fierce sundial]

Yeah

And 6:59 compared to 7:00

[rapid mirage]

I guess so

[fierce sundial]

I actually woke up at 5:59 once

[fierce sundial]

Your wake schedule was really good just a few weeks ago

I remembered the time when the sunrise made me depressed for about 5 months in 2022

[rapid mirage]

It was not.

[rapid mirage]

sunrise is supposed to make you feel good :(

[fierce sundial]

I'd say just 1 week ago it was good

[fierce sundial]

Not when it wakes me up at ungodly hours

Sunlight makes me happy but only at appropriate times

When I wake up at proper morning I open the window to see the sun

I'd say the sunset is more fun than the sunrise

[rapid mirage]

Yeah lol you're only gonna get that during the holidays

[fierce sundial]

And the weekends

[rapid mirage]

We'll see

[rapid mirage]

True

That's why I just accepted my fate

[fierce sundial]

This part was really good

Also how do you do the thing at the top

[rapid mirage]

What did I do

[fierce sundial]

The top

Lol sorry typo

[rapid mirage]

Idk what you mean

Oh

The freezing columns?

[fierce sundial]

Yeah that

[rapid mirage]

I right clicked row 2

Then pressed freeze

[fierce sundial]

Oh

[rapid mirage]

That was good but I hate having so little time in the morning

[fierce sundial]

The morning is enough

[rapid mirage]

Nuh uh

I need the morning for work

[fierce sundial]

Waking up at ungodly hours for no reason ain't worth it

[rapid mirage]

I do homework

[fierce sundial]

Now this is a good reason

I usually do work in the evening

[rapid mirage]

HAHAHA

Finally

[fierce sundial]

I can't imagine waking up at ungodly hours to do work

[rapid mirage]

I would if I kept the motivation for that long

6am is my new time to wake up until the sun rises later

God it's gonna be torture when sunrise = 8am

I will be forced to wake up at 7

[fierce sundial]

The sunrise would demotivate me even more

[rapid mirage]

Why lol

I love having natural light on my work

[fierce sundial]

My sunrise is always torture

That's why I blcok my windows nowadays

[rapid mirage]

I did that a few days ago

Stopped today, so light could get in at 6

[fierce sundial]

Always at the time range of 5:30-6:30 really shit

[fierce sundial]

Sounds like torture

[rapid mirage]

lool why don't you just accept it

[fierce sundial]

Lol I cannot live like that

I cannot live under constant torture every day

[fierce sundial]

I'd probably still be living in depression by now if I didn't do anything to fix my wake cycles

[rapid mirage]

same

[rapid mirage]

Lol I can

[fierce sundial]

If I kept my 2022 wake cycles I'll probably live a very miserable life

Always waking up at ungodly hours back in 2022

[rapid mirage]

I don't get what's so bad about 6

[fierce sundial]

Lol did my 2022 wake schedule made you wonder what's like to wake up at 6

Trust me it's going to get worse

[rapid mirage]

I won't wake up at 6

The sunrise time will force me to wake up later

[fierce sundial]

Those look decent before August 22

[fierce sundial]

I wish the sunrise was later here in my country

[rapid mirage]

NEVER AGAIN WAKING UP SO LATE

[rapid mirage]

me too

for you

[rapid mirage]

Nuh uh they're horrible

Any time after 9am is horrible

[fierce sundial]

All I need is for the sun to rise at 7-8 everyday and I'll be happier than ever

It would be possible if the whole country used gmt + 10

But my country's sunrise sucks and always at 5-6

Also the sunset is too early

17:00 - 18:33

Like I need more variation

1 hour of variance isn't enough

[rapid mirage]

Why don't you just set your clock 1 hour fast

Then you could wake up at 6am and feel like 7am

[rapid mirage]

185 22:20 🛏️💤

[fierce sundial]

No offset can make me accept waking up at the ungodly hour

186 💤 22:30

187 🌅 5:24

188 🛏️ 6h 54m total

189 Sleep quality 69%

[rapid mirage]

194 Great time to wake up, 06:15 ☀️

Oh damn

I have my Fitbit tracking back and it turns out I sleep way less than I thought

[rapid mirage]

Shame lol

It turns out to be way better sleep than I thought

I wanted to wake up at 4am bruh

Nuh uh I refuse to trust this

Maybe I do well on 7 hours of sleep genuinely

OMG OMG I SEE THE SUNRISE

YESSSSSS

SO COOL

[primal spear]

195 07:41 🌇

[fierce sundial]

Not a shame

The sunrise does not give me joy

Waking up to the sun at a decently high angle from the horizon at 7 in the morning gives me more joy

If I were to start waking up at ungodly hours again I'll certainly have depression like in 2022

My wake schedule is doing quite well I'm not ruining it for me

[rancid hull]

200 slept at 22:33, woke up at 06:52

[fierce sundial]

Someday I'll compare @rapid mirage with my 2022 self to see just how similar our wake schedules were

Sleep schedules also

I'll just have to wait less than 37 days

[rapid mirage]

Come on it's not that bad

[rapid mirage]

no it's better when it's coming out

That's like going to the cinema too late

[shrewd harbor]

96 (4:44), 97 (11:57)

[rapid mirage]

102, 22:14 🛏️💤

[fierce sundial]

Not a good comparison

If the sun just came out later I'd appreciate the sunrise

103 💤 22:24

104 🌅 5:36

105 🛏️ 7:12 total

106 107 108 109 110 111 112
Sleep quality 72%

[fierce sundial]

Waking up early just to see the sunrise is like going to the cinema 3 hours before it starts just to see the empty chairs and pick one

[rancid hull]

115 (22:36)

[rapid mirage]

116, 06:16 ☀️

[rapid mirage]

3 hours?? Noo

[rapid mirage]

I guess that's fair enough

I'm still a night owl hahaha

[rapid mirage]

119, Sleep quality 100%

121, 7 hours 56 minutes

[fierce sundial]

Not for scale

Also the sun rises at a part with a ton of trees so for some time the sun is just hiding behind the trees for about 30 minutes

[rapid mirage]

That's fine

I think I need to sleeep earlier today

[rancid hull]

122 (06:53)

[shrewd harbor]

20 (4:42)
21 (12:05)

[rapid mirage]

26, 22:15 🛏️💤

[fierce sundial]

27 💤 0:19

28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 🌅 8:30

38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57
🛏️ Total hours 8h11m

58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 151 152 153

Sleep quality 96%

[prime musk]

tf

96% = +96?

[fierce sundial]

New rule

Ask @rapid mirage

If you can subtract a lot on a bad time, you can add a lot on a good time

My sleep last night was really good

[primal spear]

28 07:26

[rapid mirage]

wow

[rapid mirage]

29 07:05 ☀️

OH MY GOD

I KEEP MAKING THE MISTAKE OF REPLYING TO IRRELEVANT MESSAGES

I'm sorry again

This is completely natural time to wake up

I am no longer the night owl

34, 8 hours 37 minutes / 7 hours 56 minutes of sleep 🎉

37, 100% / 92% quality 🎉🎉

Omg

I feel even better waking up at 7am

it's probably because I slept more

[rapid mirage]

IT'S SO HARD TO GET 92% ON THE FITBIT YESSS

[fierce sundial]

Finally you woke up at a good time again

Anyways

@shrewd harbor I just found someone with a more messed up sleep schedule than you

[rapid mirage]

who

who is it

[fierce sundial]

He's a college student in my neighborhood

His sleep schedule is 14:30-20:00

Imagine that

[rapid mirage]

Sounds pretty nice

You get to be awake when literally no one is awake

[fierce sundial]

Lol it's crazy

A nocturnal sleep schedule

[rapid mirage]

as long as it's regular

[fierce sundial]

I guess that's what college students meant when talking about weird sleep schedules

Also I found another flaw in my sleep quality scale

[rapid mirage]

Lol, just don't choose the sleep quality scale

because one day you might want to change it

and it will be uncomparable

[fierce sundial]

These two sleeps are both the same quality despite feeling different

I can make a quick fix

Subtract 15 quality for every bedtime past 1:00

[rapid mirage]

Ehhh

Whatever you want

[fierce sundial]

I made it subtract 15 whenever I go to sleep before 22:00 or after 1:00

1:00-7:00 is 60 not 45 because the +15 from wake up and -15 from sleep cancels out

[rapid mirage]

I think the bottom one should have better sleep quality than the top

[fierce sundial]

The raw sleep quality is 110 but the formula maxes it out to 100

Anything above 100 in the formula is straight up 100

Also there's an actual -15 in my past

Went to sleep and woke up at both bad times

[rapid mirage]

bad duration too

[rapid mirage]

I see

[fierce sundial]

Yeah

Doesn't make sense to have 110% so it's 100%

[rapid mirage]

But you have -15

[fierce sundial]

I meant the example before

The 23:00-8:30

[fierce sundial]

-15 is when I both go to sleep and wake up at bad time

[rapid mirage]

Ahh okay

[shrewd harbor]

38 (4:30) [weekend exemption]

[fierce sundial]

Do you get worse sleep on the weekends

If that's the case we're opposites

I get better sleep on the weekends

[rancid hull]

50 (22:40, 10:10)

[shrewd harbor]

no (well on average I sleep at around the same time)

51 (1:03)

[primal spear]

52 0:32

[fierce sundial]

That's an early time to sleep compared to your 4 and 5 ams

Unless it's a waking time and you forgot pm

[shrewd harbor]

that is a waking time

[fierce sundial]

You should say woke up at, or just add pm so it will not be confusing

[shrewd harbor]

ok

[fierce sundial]

Wait I forgot to add my sleep here last night

53 💤 00:14

54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 🌅 7:24

64 65 66 67 68 69 70
Total hours 7h 10m

71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78
Sleep quality 86%

[rancid hull]

70 (00:32)

[rapid mirage]

Yesterday: 75 22:16 🛏️💤

Today: 76 07:08 ☀️

[fierce sundial]

Nice

8 day comparison

[rapid mirage]

I guarantee you I'm going to wake up later in January

Compare it to my 2025 January

(in the future)

[fierce sundial]

That January was my 2022 wake schedule

[fierce sundial]

Hmm

I'll compare both of our January 2025s

[rapid mirage]

Yay

i think a reason why I wake up later on weekends is because I don't sleep as well

[fierce sundial]

I compared this to my 2022 self because of the 6 ams

[fierce sundial]

I can agree on half of this statement

[rapid mirage]

I got woke up at 2am by my parents

Someone opened my door in the middle of the night so i saw the light outside my room

[fierce sundial]

I think a reason why I wake up later on weekends is because I Do sleep well

[fierce sundial]

That sucks but at least you were able to go back to sleep

[rapid mirage]

no, I was too itchy to go back to sleep after

[rapid mirage]

That's good

[fierce sundial]

Yeah

Weekends = good sleep

[rapid mirage]

79, 99/88% quality

[rapid mirage]

except when visitors

[fierce sundial]

Two quality scales

[rapid mirage]

we had visitors

[fierce sundial]

Visitors come rarely here and not at ungodly hours unlike in 2022

[rapid mirage]

82, 8 hours 14 minutes / 7 hours 36 minutes despite being woken up in the middle of the night

[rapid mirage]

Thank god

[fierce sundial]

In 2022 it was hell

[rapid mirage]

My parents had to drive the visitor home and came back super late making sounds and my dad sneezed really loud

[fierce sundial]

I can blame visitors for 50% of my bad awakenings

[fierce sundial]

My parents are opposite of that back in 2022

My parents would bring really loud visitors at ungodly hours

It was hell

[rapid mirage]

Same lol

[fierce sundial]

I got woken up at 7:24 by my mother which is a reasonable time to wake up

[rapid mirage]

That's specific

[fierce sundial]

It was 7:24 when I looked at my clock

Also I treat :24 and any other 12 minute interval better than the others

I mostly use :12 :24 :30 :36 :48 for alarms

[rapid mirage]

I like intervals of:
4,5,7

Lol

[fierce sundial]

Oh

Lol

[rapid mirage]

I shall stick to my routine see you later

[fierce sundial]

See you later

[fierce sundial]

Will you also start a whole year fixing your wake schedules

I'll do the same

[rapid mirage]

my wake schedules are fixed

but alright we'll see how I go in January

[fierce sundial]

If you consider that fixed well my wake schedules are also fixed

Look at this
Last bad time was many weeks ago

23 days ago

My good wake up time streak is 23 now

[rapid mirage]

mine is easily broken again

[rapid mirage]

Looks decent ish

[fierce sundial]

Yeah it's decent at this point

Just need to maintain that schedule without waking up at 6

[shrewd harbor]

77

[rancid hull]

If you wake up at 6 and go back to sleep, does that count?

80 (09:00)

It happened to be exactly 9:00 because I woke up to do count-o-clock

[shrewd harbor]

81 (12:00)

[rapid mirage]

I feel like I sleep better on weekdays because everyone is forced to sleep earlier

[fierce sundial]

That counts as 2 wake up times
1 bad and 1 good

82 💤 22:21

[rancid hull]

i see

[fierce sundial]

83 🌅 4:50

84 🛏️ 6h 29m total

85 Sleep quality 64%

[rancid hull]

4:50 is so early

[fierce sundial]

Yeah I woke up before the alarm

[fierce sundial]

This actually happened a lot back then

[rapid mirage]

90, 22:05 🛏️💤

[primal spear]

91 6:04 🌅🌄

[rancid hull]

92 (22:28)

Going to wake up at an ungodly hour

[rapid mirage]

93, 05:47, 05:59 ☀️

Well

Gut instinct

95, 7 hours 39 minutes/7 hours 1 minute

98, 100%/91% quality

I kinda wanted to wake up at 6

interesting.

I actually woke up 5:47 and tried to sleep cause I thought I didn't have enough sleep

[fierce sundial]

On the border

Almost a bad waking up time

[shrewd harbor]

1 (4:37)

[fierce sundial]

I can get my ideal bedtimes this way

When there's no 6 am

According to this I should go to sleep between 22:00 and 22:29 on weekdays and 23:30-23:59 in weekends

Also I should not set an alarm before 5:30 because then my ideal bedtimes would be at ridiculously early hours of the evening

This 90 minute sleep cycle intervals didn't work back then but still worth a shot

[rancid hull]

0 (04:26)

[fierce sundial]

I promise to myself to add percentages of sleep quality 1 count per percentage if it's above 80

When it's the weekend

[rancid hull]

2 (06:40)

Sent that late

[fierce sundial]

If I can fully optimize my schedule in theory I could get as much as 7h 30m on school days

[shrewd harbor]

22 (10:21)

[rapid mirage]

Good luck

[rapid mirage]

why am I soooo tired

it's only 8pm

[prime musk]

30 (06:50) thank you ⏰

[fierce sundial]

I'll never set an alarm at ungodly hours

31 💤 22:13

32 33 🌅 5:30 / 7:30

School was cancelled so I had to go back to sleep
Also alarms

34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53
🛏️ 9h 17m

Probably the longest sleep of the year

54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145

Sleep quality 92%

Not 100% because the formula only sees the first waking up time

[rancid hull]

150 (22:40)

[rancid hull]

Nice!

[rapid mirage]

155 (22:15) 🛏️💤

156 (06:24) ☀️

apparently I didn't sleep that well lol

[fierce sundial]

Yeah you didn't sleep well

Your wake schedules are starting to look like me in 2022

[rapid mirage]

it's cause I woke up at 4

[rapid mirage]

it was okay

[rancid hull]

157 (06:50)

[rapid mirage]

158 18:24

[rapid mirage]

159 18:41

[rapid mirage]

164 (20:34) 🛏️💤 goooodnight

[fierce sundial]

Still not ruined

[fierce sundial]

Ridiculously early sleep time

165 💤 22:12

166 🌅 5:16

167 🛏️ 7h 4m total

168 169 170 171 172 173 174
Sleep quality 70%

[fierce sundial]

Woke up before the alarm btw

[shrewd harbor]

57 (4:57? I don't know when I actually slept but this is the latest message I sent in another server)
58 (12:00, approximately 11h ago)

[rancid hull]

50 (23:01) too late on a school night

[rapid mirage]

51 (05:22) ☀️

Ok no

I don't want to wake up this early

I'm going to sleep again

52 (05:29)

[rapid mirage]

53 (05:48)

I can't sleep

[rapid mirage]

It's because I want to reduce the duration of a potential cold

Sleeping earlier gives the immune system an advantage

I think my circadian rhythm is not determined by light (but light affects it)

I wake up far before dawn

actually.

I went for astronomical twilight - nautical twilight

god

when the clocks turn back my sleep will be fucked

[shrewd harbor]

you slept for 9 hours

[rapid mirage]

but tonight I will be tired so early

[shrewd harbor]

that's good it means you'll sleep earlier

[rapid mirage]

bruh no I already sleep too early

I haven't even got a colour for 8pm

[shrewd harbor]

how about purple

or pink

[rapid mirage]

alright purple since it's you who suggested it

[rapid mirage]

OOO LOOK

I HAVE A GRAPH TOO

[shrewd harbor]

-40 (4:33)

[fierce sundial]

Taking a turn for the worse

You're making your sleep schedules horrible again just on the other side

[fierce sundial]

Try bringing it back to decent hours

22:00-23:00

Sometimes I do get tired as early as 20:00 and still stay awake because I don't want to go to sleep at ridiculously early hours

20:34 looks just as bad as 4:27

I'm so glad that I'm not you

[rancid hull]

-30 (06:00)

[rapid mirage]

I don't want to deal with 2 weeks of having a cold

[rapid mirage]

Wowwww

[rapid mirage]

I could say the same

I would never sleep at 8 without a good reason

[fierce sundial]

There are better cures than going to sleep ridiculously early and wasting the evening

[fierce sundial]

I'd never sleep any time before 22:00 even if I had a cold

[rapid mirage]

I didn't waste the evening, I got up early today

[rapid mirage]

but this is before a cold

[fierce sundial]

You sacrificed the evening for the morning

[fierce sundial]

First 5 months and last 4 months looked decent

I might have to modify my sleep quality scale again to make 20:00 worse than 21:00 but I figured out that I'm consistent enough to never go to sleep ridiculously early

I have woken up at ungodly hours 30 times this year but not even once did I go to sleep at ridiculously early hours this year

[rapid mirage]

The evening isn't as good

[fierce sundial]

Sounds like a morning person I see

[rapid mirage]

You have to make this time not ridiculously early for yourself

[fierce sundial]

One thing is sure: I'll never go to sleep at earlier than 22:00

For consistency's sake

If I'm tired early in the evening I do things that are relaxing and not go to sleep until proper bedtime

[rapid mirage]

22:00 isn't even that early

[fierce sundial]

22:00 is good but any earlier is bad

[rapid mirage]

Nuh uh

21:00+ is good

[fierce sundial]

I think I want to make another more certain promise in #1209664199702085733 to never go to sleep earlier than 22:00

[fierce sundial]

Very early already

[rapid mirage]

You never do that anyway

[rapid mirage]

It allows you to get more sleep earlier on

[fierce sundial]

Awkward off-time sleep will cause my circadian rhythms to be messed up

Better sleep 7 hours on proper bedtime rather than mess up my sleep schedules

[fierce sundial]

I'm a consistent person which means I'll probably never do that

[rapid mirage]

yes, sleep time is something you can control

[rapid mirage]

Ooo I see

[fierce sundial]

Yeah

Wake up times are harder to control consistently so it's harder to avoid waking up at 6

My aim for 2025 is less than 3% ungodly awakenings

[shrewd harbor]

-50 (12:27)

[rapid mirage]

I'd love to wake up at 6 again

I keep waking up earlier and earlier

[rapid mirage]

where is the 2022 stats :(

[rapid mirage]

-45, 22:15 🛏️💤

[fierce sundial]

-35 💤 22:06

-25 🌅 5:42

[fierce sundial]

7 is better

-15 🛏️ Total hours 7h 36m

-5
Sleep quality 76%

[prime musk]

0
23:40 🛌
06:56 🛏️

[fierce sundial]

Lol are you more than 1 day behind or you missed 1 day in your sleep logs

It's Sep 19 morning here

[rancid hull]

2 (22:36)

[rapid mirage]

Fucking finally

7, 06:06 ☀️

I'm not going to rely on my body clock fuck that

It woke up at 5am today

10, 99/90% quality

12, 7 hours 4 minutes

Alarm at 06:06 so I know when to wake up

[rapid mirage]

Oh, I put my waking up times for the day before

I couldn't be bothered to make a new column so

That sleep links with the wake up time so it makes sense to me

wow

My hour is going less

[shrewd harbor]

-56 (4:08)

[fierce sundial]

I thought you were a day off

[fierce sundial]

Lol same

I never rely on my body clock

I don't want to wake up at 6 ever again

I never set an alarm at 6 for obvious reasons but I also rarely set an alarm at 7 because my body clock tends to wake up a few minutes early sometimes

[rapid mirage]

I am a day off

[shrewd harbor]

-55 (11:55)

[fierce sundial]

Lol screw this
There should be a rule about banning negative counts

💤 22:30
🌅 5:36
🛏️ 7h 6m total
Sleep quality 71

-54

[rapid mirage]

-53 22:50 🛏️💤 too late

[rancid hull]

-40 (22:33)

[rapid mirage]

-39 (07:11)

-36, 100/90% quality

-32, 8 hours 2 minutes/7 hours 28 minutes

[prime musk]

-20
🛌 23:33
🛏️ 06:55

[shrewd harbor]

-93 (4:13)

[prime musk]

bruh

[rapid mirage]

Stop sleeping so late

[rancid hull]

-50 (06:46)

Trying to get the count to be positive again

[fierce sundial]

Still a good time
Way better than your 20:xx

[fierce sundial]

We should ban negatives here

If it is really bad, reset to 0

[fierce sundial]

Wow you woke up before noon

[shrewd harbor]

-49 (9:20)

[rapid mirage]

Ok okay

New rule

If the count is negative, you may count x2 for positive counts (counts going up)

These negatives are ridiculous

[fierce sundial]

What positive counts if the current count is negative

[rapid mirage]

if you're counting up

[fierce sundial]

Oh I see

[shrewd harbor]

-47 (10:15) 💤
-45 (12:02)

[rapid mirage]

-43 17:18-17:40

[rapid mirage]

-41 19:02

-39 19:11

[rapid mirage]

-29 21:15 🛏️💤

[fierce sundial]

-19 💤 23:33

-9 🌅 8:12

1 🛏️ 8h 39m total

2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51 52 53 54 55 56 57 58 59 60 61 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69 70 71 72 73 74 75 76 77 78 79 80 81 82 83 84 85 86 87 88 89 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 99 100 101

Sleep quality 💯

[rancid hull]

Nice

[fierce sundial]

Yeah

I got great sleep with great times to go to sleep and wake up

[blazing cove]

2,998

2,999