As the title says. Please think about allowing taxi services and other RP things on the server that would not be considered teaming
#Allow taxi services and RP stuff - Vanilla Trio Monthly
twilit wind
untold heath
But that is teaming, cause you are neutral and helping players outside your team
How am I supposed to know if its a service or players abusing it for teaming
mint olive
I feel like the teaming lines on trio are kinda goofy. The stuff you regulate vs dont seems very unclear imo
scarlet rock
feels the same as duo tbh
untold heath
whats goofy?
mint olive
I mean you said in gen chat that I was teamming bc I MLRSed a fob that I was countering
But kids living next to each other and both actively roofcamping anyone nearby is no issue
I had 2 different teams targetting me the whole time I was launching my MLRS strikes and then you called me out for teaming KEK
Plus all the nakeds countering where I was MLRSing were banned for teaming
untold heath
If you want to tralk about that feel free to create a ticket otherwise I can put you on blast publicly
mint olive
I mean you already put me on blast publically tbf
untold heath
I still think you deserved a temp ban and I should of done that instead of say anything in chat but there was too much going on
mint olive
For MLRS striking people?
After they 4 HQM tc griefed me
Ofc Imma take advantage of them getting boomed and drop a strike here and there
untold heath
Nah i was watching for a long time and how all that unfolded, you are steam friends with Henne at the time and there was clear countering for help there
including neutral moments
mint olive
Hennes team was the nakeds getting banned lol
untold heath
Im talking about on day 1 or 2 first time
mint olive
And when we countered the raid at their base only reason we didnt get out with everything was them frying my ass trynna leave
mint olive
I steam friend people for trades so it isnt in gen chat
I had him friended from trading on fryer servers
untold heath
striking MLRS same time and countering but only targeting specific people isnt a gray area ,pretty standard rule on all team limited servers
mint olive
I targetted everyone lol wym
twilit wind
I dont recall targetting only specific people? Everyone seen was shot, by all sides
mint olive
I guess I dont understand how robbing their loot is helping them out. Big raid at my doorstep ofc Imma counter
Ive countered every raid Ive heard in the same fashion
untold heath
Lets just leave it at I seen plenty of neutral moments and lets not get too conveniently helping people with mlrs cause you will get mixed up as teaming if you are doing it with your steam friends
twilit wind
I dont understand what "Neutral" moments you've seen. We constantly counter and fight them
untold heath
this isnt about the taxi service anymore
mint olive
Thats true but I believe it dives into the gray area of teaming
untold heath
Using MLRS would be the same as using rockets on the other side of the base while another team is raiding
why is it different just cause its launched far?
mint olive
I feel as long as the driver of said taxi service isnt hopping out its no different than watching a fight unfold and not hopping in
untold heath
Im definitely working on more clear rules about using MLRS strikes during another active raid. Thats actively teaming
Bad for team limited servers
twilit wind
Thats actively countering, not teaming
mint olive
Thats how you counter fobs lol
twilit wind
As soon as you make that rule, it essentially makes countering against the rules
untold heath
using MLRS is a must to counter? If someone is in a raid let them have their fun ina team limited situation
mint olive
Once its gone I can actually get their rockets etc
untold heath
that shit is trash ever since they added it to the game
twilit wind
using MLRS is a must to counter? If someone is in a raid let them have their fu...
thats what a pve server is for
mint olive
At this point just remove mil base then
untold heath
Using MLRS should be considered the same as using C4 or rockerts on the base at the same time as another team
Use it when you are raiding someone not double team someone
untold heath
I dont see how its viewed differently just cause its launched remotely
mint olive
Ok what about someone distracting me from my base and the other team moving in and raiding my externals
Same idea
Taking advantage of my fun to get into my shit
untold heath
Im talking about raiding situations. They are very few on the server
Other teams should not be helping other players in any ways like that
Naked doesnt mean you can use them for benefit
twilit wind
Its called countering a raid, its part of the game. Our intention was to counter the raiders and take their boom, which we did, until the defenders killed Dar for his kit + boom + the raiders kits
mint olive
Idk man its just silly. Never ran into issues on any other group limit servers MLRSing during others raids
twilit wind
I fail to see how that is teaming in ANY way
untold heath
We banned 6 players for helping take out turrets together and boost over compound walls as naked while another team MLRS and another team is raiding. That isnt fun for anyone on a team limited server except for the people needing all taht extra help
mint olive
Actually believe it or not those are my most fun raid defenses
twilit wind
The intentions were not to help any side. The intentions were purely selfish
mint olive
All 4 times I got raided I had nakeds all in my compound
mint olive
It also got F17 off my nuts
twilit wind
Thats the risk you run while raiding though, other teams showing up and countering you
mint olive
Once they realized I MLRS fobs
They stopped fobbing
They came to my base and told me they were scared to fob us again
Bc they knew I would lob another mlrs up
untold heath
You can counter all you want, Im talking specifically MLRS , which is comparable to using a Rocket or c4 on a base on the other side while another team is raiding. We would not let that happen right?
Do you not see the gray area problem you are aruging here
mint olive
So I cant raid fobs?
twilit wind
If we had rocket c4 in that moment we would have used it on the fob, purely because our intentions were to steal the boom from them to use for whatever we wanted
mint olive
I just have to let raiders run there course instead of countering
untold heath
theres 1000 bases on the map, why you gotta raid the only base with an online raid while someone else is raiding?
Im losing braincells here
😄
mint olive
Bc I know I can fuck them over for fucking me over
twilit wind
Youre losing it because your argument is terrible lol
mint olive
They fucked me over Im harassing them
untold heath
Im saying using MLRS on a base that is being actively raided by another team is unfair. That is not terrible
mint olive
Back to taxis. Its a service yes? So are shops. Would you say shops shouldnt be allowed if they are walk up only bc people tend to kill others rather than shoppers per say
untold heath
You realize how abusive this can turn
what is stopping 10 friends from helping 2 people raid and just all launch mlrs one after another
Endless
Thats not okay
twilit wind
That is an entirely different scenario though
mint olive
The counters at mil base, the mlrs timer, sams
twilit wind
This was a duo, launching mlrs at a trio, to counter raid and take their boom
untold heath
Rust rules are black and white. If we allow what you do, we have to allow that too
How can we prove it wasnt a counter
untold heath
our tools detect non teammates together and notify us on discord when players are in groups outside our teams
to have taxi service would mean we have to watch in game 24/7 every day forever
We have a main server for that ,and pve servers
team limit server means everyone but your teammate is someone that wants to kill you
mint olive
Yet that will never be the case because this is rust
I run into borderline teamers more than cheaters and thats saying something
untold heath
And they will keep gettning banned
mint olive
We countered something yesterday. 4 people all bagged in the same camper
Idk I guess its just all very unclear to me as the things that seem to get called out more are less teaming than the ones that dont
untold heath
We do the best we can, battlezone had around 15,000 players this month, triple our usual amount
Just adding more admins I am human and can only watch so much
scarlet rock
why didnt u report that about the camper then
twilit wind
we did
scarlet rock
hmm
mint olive
There was definately reports put in lol
untold heath
I havent even looked at trio reports since last night yet. Still have to do human things like take a shit, shower , have lunch, take wife to get haircut, buy catfood, feed my lizard, water my garden and somehow be a Rust admin 18 hours a day still 😛
were getting extra help
scarlet rock
thats good to hear 🙂
fair mason
this is just in rabidkevin poops
untold heath
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