New Elder System

[muted moat]

well doesnt work for ss and bs and its dawn

[white path]

ok well here

• conditions must be met (certain dragon, certain elder %, certain weather, certain time of day)
• crystal must be glowing (what color? we're yet to find a consistent pattern)
• aim when screaming at it, if it glows after you scream its responsive, otherwise its not working, don't waste your time trying to get it to glow

[covert ocean]

also, I dunno if this was already mentioned before, but other dragons (that didn't start the geode) don't need to call to get the tick

[muted moat]

Rlly?

[covert ocean]

just had a random SS join me and they got a tick a little bit away without ever calling it

[cosmic river]

• you must face and 1 call at the white part of the geode

[white path]

i thought that was obvious with the aiming part

[heavy ridge]

On green?

[cosmic river]

unfortunately some people call from sides or behind the geode

[covert ocean]

I would also speculate:

• Conditions must be met for the geode (color) to be able to do anything - environment conditions
• And conditions must be met within an individual dragon for them to be able to resonate the geode (and/or get ticks from other resonating it) - individual conditions

Separating them because I'm pretty sure there's separate mechanics for it that explain why they sometimes don't work for literally anyone and sometimes for one dragon but not another

[white path]

anyway aim for the nice white center <3

[covert ocean]

that was green yes

[last minnow]

are they 100% sure it wasnt a passive tick?

[white path]

anyone wanna join me on flaming falls

[covert ocean]

i dunno but that'd be a huge coincidence

I asked 'did you get the tick' and they said 'yep'

xD

[cosmic river]

i would but idont have dragons on it yet

[cosmic river]

this was accurate during testing

[last minnow]

i wish flaming was active again

[cosmic river]

rn youll have to test

[covert ocean]

it just happened

[cosmic river]

marvelous then thats an anti hoarding system discovered

[white path]

i could nest you in if you'd like

[cosmic river]

ayo whatchu got for skins?

[white path]

mostly white, my ss got restarted tho due to the corpse bug n my IR suffered the same fate (ded)

[cosmic river]

[white path]

my outlier is my ASD which is gold

oh also all of my dragons (i think) are male

[covert ocean]

that tends to be an issue with nesting

:D

[cosmic river]

all my dragons are always male too

[white path]

sorry its the ftm trans me talking 😔

[cosmic river]

i dont like sitting on a nest

so 🤝

[white path]

i dont mind sitting on a nest!

i just like being male :)

i hunt n get food for everyone

you can bet im gonna be having a ton of hours on the brood once it drops

[cosmic river]

lets move somewhere else rq

[last minnow]

the AOE doesnt work all the time though

[white path]

this lil fella didnt wanna respond

[last minnow]

i stood next to another ss when they got a tick and i didnt

[last minnow]

doesnt look active

[cosmic river]

blue

[white path]

its humming

[last minnow]

oh thats dark blue nvm

thats ss

[white path]

didn't respond

[cosmic river]

walk closer

[last minnow]

wait no its dawn

it works at night not dawn

[muted moat]

So my bio friend actived a green crystal in the rain

In the morning^

[velvet spire]

I’m a little but confuse, Bios can activate the crystal then other dragons will be able to roar at it?

Or do we wait until crystal is active (glowing)

[covert ocean]

bio can resonate geodes. aka make them glow and hum

[muted moat]

So she made it explode

[covert ocean]

I haven't heard of them activating geodes - in terms of making them go from inactive (no color) to active (color+rumbling)

[muted moat]

She did

Cuz I did the roar and it did nothing

She did and it went off

[covert ocean]

exactly

so bios can (sometimes) resonate an active geode for other dragons

[muted moat]

Didn’t get the tic tho

Big sad

[covert ocean]

less useful xD

[muted moat]

Ik 😂

[last minnow]

what crystal works for ss in the day? havent been able to get any to work in the daytime just at night

[covert ocean]

a cyan and a green worked for my ss during the day

and a white

[last minnow]

hm alr

[covert ocean]

22.5%, 11.3% and 12.5% elder

[last minnow]

yikes, im no where near those growths lol

50% might not work

[white path]

me n fandom r on flaming falls if anyone wants to join (and help upstat)

cause sanc is always full i go hunting for crystal knowledge here

[cosmic river]

i am but a child

[covert ocean]

my bio just made a yellow geode resonate after it didn't for my ss and another ss

the other ss did not get the tick

[orchid barn]

Got a tick from a green crystal on SS (BR cave 47S/14E)
I had one passive tick in that SS before and am now at 2.5%

[drowsy arch]

The stone makes a sound, don’t know whose it is?

[white path]

ss i think

[covert ocean]

try it on any dragon that you can get over there

one color can work for multiple dragons

it's also worked for fs

[drowsy arch]

ty!

[chilly iris]

Dark blue used to respond to my IR when it was below 50% (during morning > dusk) but no longer once my IR went over 50%
If that helps any

[covert ocean]

helps a lot actually!

[last minnow]

ss at night

[last minnow]

if yall are on whenever i wake up from a nap i can help out

[covert ocean]

try to ignore me now, geode!

[drowsy arch]

ty, it worked!

[heavy ridge]

If you experience any other changes like that, feel free to @heavy ridge

Trying to collect any datapoints where colors started/stopped working and the growth% ❤️

[lethal lion]

Show off.

[fast ermine]

Like the murshrooms, only one Peep can use the Crystal? Or while active anyone can use?

[covert ocean]

Don’t work sadly

[covert ocean]

If multiple people are in range of the geode when it goes boom, they also have a chance to get a tick

If the conditions for them are right

After it explodes it deactivates

[fast ermine]

I currently don't know anything about how the new Elder system works, can you give me a summary please?

is it easier or harder than the old one?

[covert ocean]

Not that simple. It’s harder to camp than the mushrooms. It’s also much harder to figure out

Searching and getting lucky aside, it’s still easy to get a tick

You have to check geodes around the map to find one that’s active. If it likes you, it’ll start glowing when you one call at it. If you keep going it’ll give a tick and deactivate

Many ignore you. We don’t know the rules yet

[fast ermine]

I understand, thanks for the explanation

❤️

[drowsy arch]

The stone makes a sound, don’t know whose it is?

[wide canopy]

Unresponsive, morning.

[white path]

anyone wanna join us on flaming falls? we got a fs egg if y'all dont got a dragon

fandom's on here n we're trying stuff out here since

sanc is full...........

[cosmic river]

enjoy potato graphics blue

[covert ocean]

Cyan

[drowsy arch]

ty

Tell me, can stones become active in any weather?

[wide canopy]

Ignored all species minus asd

Dusk

[white path]

@tight blade

[wide canopy]

White worked for rainy daytime on ss
-# heard from a friend

[wide canopy]

Ignored
fs ss bio and ir at night

Unresponsive, night rainy.
Ss/fs/blitz

And it ignored ASD

Yes we brought an asd.

Also ignored IR

[gray ocean]

Yellow at night, no dragon can activate

Not even bio

[regal oriole]

anyone here that can help me fill my excel sheet? Just so i can summarize. I did not include weather so far.

[midnight blade]

so

when going to a crystal

does it have to be glowing?

[midnight blade]

or do you have to 1 call to make it glow.

[naive otter]

from any of the colors you see above you

[tardy perch]

It has to be shining one of the colors you see above.

[naive otter]

there are 7 colors: Red, Green, Blue, Magenta, White, Yellow, and Cyan

[tardy perch]

1 call aiming at the white center of a colored geode can make the white part glow, which when yelled at enough will make it burst and POSSIBLY give you a tick

[regal oriole]

pls correct me if my findings are somehow wrong

[white path]

if you spelt this you spelt indicator as indiktor (just thought i'd let you know ndsjfdf)

english is confusing 😔

[naive otter]

however multiple geodes can be active at once! you could find an active geode in one place. and someone else could find another somewhere else it seems!

[regal oriole]

Yes. but one is allways active some where.

[regal oriole]

My spelling is bad. I am going to correct it. Ty for telling me

[naive otter]

yeye chu right

[white path]

no problem its alright just keep doing your best

[naive otter]

we got a magenta, at dusk. it isnt working for any dragon

[last minnow]

cyan isnt working for ss at dawn, 50% elder

tried the same cyan at morning and still got greeted with nothing

[naive otter]

do we know the name of each day/night cycle?
Dawn - Dusk - Noon - Night - Morning. what others am i possibly missing?

[ionic trench]

dawn, morning, noon, evening, dusk, night

i think that's all of them

[last minnow]

cyan worked on a 28% ss but nobody next to them got the tick

[heavy ridge]

✨ noted, appreciated.

[last minnow]

yellow was nonresponsive to my ss as well, 50% elder

it faded before anyone else got to it smh

my ss feels locked to only eldering at night tbh

blues at night havent failed me

but everything else in the day, morning, dusk and dawn have

noon as well

[heavy ridge]

That's the 55%, yes? You remember what percent you started at on the new system? (Or specifically, the percent you were at when you first procced a blue at night?)

[last minnow]

first time i did blues were in the 40% range, started the new system right at 40%

i hit 50% off of only blues at night, im constantly hunting crystals and have seen every color at every time of day, blues are the only ones that work for me rn at night

[heavy ridge]

Perfect, ty.

[last minnow]

yw

[heavy ridge]

Nanner reported a SS at 60% proccing reds, keep an eye out, let me know if you start triggering those?

[last minnow]

alrighty

i just hit 50% today from a crystal so ill try again if i see a red around

cus they never worked in the past for me

[heavy ridge]

💕 ty ty

[naive otter]

is it possible the geodes are elder % based??

[last minnow]

i believe it

[heavy ridge]

We're seeing a set of colors starting/stopping working.

The same colors across the same species.

We have 2 cases of blitz transitioning at the same percentage, and a third blitz making the same transition at unknown percentage

[last minnow]

theres too many instances where the only difference in the same species triggering x crystal for one person but not another is the elder %

[heavy ridge]

If my work holds out and keeps being slow, I'll go back and start collating data that has posted %s

See if we can't set up an expected color progression. Get people testing against it.

[last minnow]

red didnt work, its currently evening

[ionic trench]

cyan has now stopped working on my blitz
not sure why

[cosmic river]

whats your elder prog?

[ionic trench]

34.7%

[heavy ridge]

Same time of day as it used to work?

[cosmic river]

[ionic trench]

previous cyan worked at 29.3% and first worked at 26.6%

[heavy ridge]

Ty 🦐
Let us know which ones do/dont work at your new % ❤️

You're our front lines when it comes to the blitz

We appreciate your hard work o7

[cosmic river]

green seems to have just worked on blitz for someone

[heavy ridge]

Low %?
So far it's been green>cyan>?? During daylight

[ionic trench]

yes its during the day

[heavy ridge]

If we're right, they should be below ~18%

[heavy ridge]

The patterns

They're connecting

[cosmic river]

next should either be blue or magenta

or both

[naive otter]

wait that doesnt make sense now...

[last minnow]

blue i have listed for ss already

[heavy ridge]

Magenta works for blitz at night at low %

[naive otter]

i got magenta to work on a fresh bltz, no elder tics

okay

soo to continue that bit!

i also got magenta to work with at least up to 20% elder

at night with blitz specifically

[cosmic river]

still no tics?

[heavy ridge]

Ty ❤️ let us know how high you get without that changing

[naive otter]

from 0 to 20% magenta has so far worked at night with blitz

i will keep you upated with you @heavy ridge

[heavy ridge]

o7 much appreciated

[ionic trench]

y'all im fighting for my life going after these crystals
i'm trying to fly the round as fast as possible so i'm just passing the crystals, only stopping if they're ready
but i've got 4 points in ZOOM and this thing cannot steer at all

[naive otter]

also! i got yellow to trigger at least around 70% with an ASD elder but stopped after it went past 80%!

this was also around dusk time when i triggered a yellow with ASD. but hadnt gotten it to trigger at night

i been looking for another yellow to test again but so far no luck at all with the right time. always been wrong time

@heavy ridge FS/Red/Night/84.1%

being triggered

[heavy ridge]

Ty ❤️

[last minnow]

blue worked on a ss in the evening, 50-51%

[heavy ridge]

Boos and Gouls,

We are looking for Time, Color, Species, and Elder Percent

if a color stops working for you, or a new one starts

We need your %

@heavy ridge if your activation colors change

[Fandom, if you're still lurking, could I get a pin?]

[wide canopy]

Ignored all
daytime
FS/SS/IR/ASD/BLITZ

[naive otter]

what elder % was the members who tried?

[wide canopy]

All below 10

[heavy ridge]

o7 much appreciated

[naive otter]

me who would like to know if Gremlin is on a roll or not is he close? is he cold? is he hot??? what is he? 🤣

[wide canopy]

Also just now ignored IR

Were not testing bio

[last minnow]

i feel like we're close to figuring it out as it seems to follow patterns with elder %

and time

[heavy ridge]

XD im writing up a data set at/for work rn. It'll be ~40 minutes before I can solidly devote to collating.

But I'm confident that this will line up. We'll have predictive datasets before the night is out

[naive otter]

@heavy ridge i got a bio to change a yellow at dawn. it changed to magenta!

[ionic trench]

2.7%, 2%, and 34.7% blitz all just failed to get a cyan to work

[heavy ridge]

o7 that confirms our current data, thank you!

[naive otter]

hmm i think SS/Noon/ at least 20% elder

for cyan, i got it to work around there at least. do some testing for me pls to confirm

[last minnow]

can confirm, i witnessed a 20% ss do cyan at noon

while nobody else could

i was 50% and couldnt do it

[heavy ridge]

o7 good data. Good confirmation.

[naive otter]

i cant get magenta to work with anything, ranging from 0-41% so far for dawn/magenta

last attempt is FS

[heavy ridge]

Let me know the full set of dragons species you tested? All at dawn?

[naive otter]

i got a fresh FS im attempting with only 1.8%

[last minnow]

we have every dragon + a good chunk of the server with us, nobody can get red to go off at dusk

[naive otter]

@heavy ridge FS/Dawn/Magenta/ around 49% elder

[heavy ridge]

Can you confirm % ranges for me?

[heavy ridge]

Null?

[naive otter]

worked

[last minnow]

looks like we have 22% and 50%s

[heavy ridge]

o7

[naive otter]

my friend triggered it! got the tic

[heavy ridge]

Ty ty

[heavy ridge]

Lovely! Need info on those who can't activate and can get the tick!

[cosmic river]

im rewatching gravity falls rn, if im needed here for anything ping me or dm me, ill look when i can and help figure out colors if yall struggle

[naive otter]

so if this is true, there are 3 factors needed for geodes of a certain color out of the 7 we have

• Dragon Species
• Time of Day
• Elder %

Possibly! if this is true! imma just leave it there

[heavy ridge]

Yup! It's consistent and predictable so far.

Will be double checking shortly

[latent meadow]

What a good thing to wake up to.

[last minnow]

alr i have a clip showing AOE not working and only working for the person who activated it, they were behind me

[latent meadow]

Uh... A bad thing to wake up to, I just logged out of my Steam account and tried to sign back in and it says I don't exist now... So now I have a problem...

[naive otter]

what?!

[last minnow]

to add to this, IR activated a red crystal at night, 30% elder

[ionic trench]

green during daytime
2.7% blitzes x3 all could activate it
34.7% blitz could not

the low% got ticks, high% did not

[heavy ridge]

We need to establish the range limit, or at least a standard distance.

There's a lot of people asserting they were in range, and didn't tick.

There may be a proximity-to-color where you can receive the tick, but not activate it, at a %, but you get a far enough away %, you can't get either.

But we need to establish the color ranges first before we can start making generalizations.

[heavy ridge]

Good o7 still consistant

[last minnow]

my face was meshing with the crystal, the ir was further behind me

[heavy ridge]

Lemme sketch, one mo

[naive otter]

have we possibly figured out what yellow can be triggered when? so far i cant get it to trigger with anything except for bio at dawn and the one time with ASD at 70% or so

[last minnow]

the ss behind me also didnt get it

ive had this same issue with ss triggering it and not doing the AOE effect

[naive otter]

FS/Green/Morning/84.9 it triggered!

[ionic trench]

Red / daytime / blitz
34.7% no, 5.3% also no

[heavy ridge]

This is what im suggesting, if this makes sense to you?

As percent passes through a range, there's percents that can recieve but not activate a color's tick, and then a range where you can do both, but outside of those % ranges, you get neither

[heavy ridge]

!!

[heavy ridge]

Thank you for taking red out of the running!

[cosmic river]

can debunk, during testing an asd very close to a geode was able to receive a tick, as well as ones farther away

[last minnow]

should look at the vid i sent, it perfectly shows off the "aoe"

[heavy ridge]

Not distance range, (but ty), % range

[cosmic river]

unless it was changed now
can someone do this exact same thing with a different color for testing?

[last minnow]

^

[cosmic river]

no i mean again

different color

[last minnow]

i did

and it still didnt do the AOE thing

i was standing next to another ss who got it but i didnt

i was just as close to the crystal as they where

[heavy ridge]

Like, 0-18% can proc, 19-30% can recieve, further out? Nothing.

[cosmic river]

[naive otter]

im going to take a break soon! of research

@heavy ridge Blitz/Red/Morning/18%

it was a failure at triggerring

im waiting for my friend with an FS with 85%

[heavy ridge]

XD had me scared a moment there ❤️

Let me know if you get secondhand ❤️

[naive otter]

yee i pushed enter too earrly when trying to push Shift

[gray ocean]

Please tell me if your FS friend is successful T.T

[naive otter]

@heavy ridge they are 87.7% and it failed to proc

[gray ocean]

oh dang

[naive otter]

FS/Red/Morning/87.7% was a failure

[gray ocean]

what time of day?

[naive otter]

@gray ocean

[gray ocean]

Thank you ❤️

[naive otter]

attempted a bio just incase! no use

[heavy ridge]

Appreciate the data o7 enjoy your break

[naive otter]

we're testing with SS, IR and ASD soon then im going to go on m break

SS/Red/Morning/96% was a failure!

IR/Red/Morning/17% Failure!

HOWEVER!!! @heavy ridge IR/Red/Morning/71.8%!!!!!

[heavy ridge]

Perfect!! Ty ❤️

[ionic trench]

34.7% blitz, dark blue, daylight (dusk)
activated & received tick
5.3% blitz did not receive tick

[heavy ridge]

!! That's great!
You confirmed in the menu the time was dusk?

That'll be the new color we benchmark the growing blitzes against, ty ❤️

[ionic trench]

yes

[naive otter]

also @heavy ridge the 17% IR did not get tic but my friend with the 71% did

[heavy ridge]

❣️ ty

[ionic trench]

gremlin are you collecting the data somewhere

[latent meadow]

Okay... Steam account recovered, had to restart my rig, will begin testing again once I get back.

[heavy ridge]

Screenshots fn, doing data entry at work 😅

Will be charting them out shortly

[last minnow]

23% ASD activated a green crystal at night apparently

[ionic trench]

dark blue / Dusk
37.3% blitz = activated, ticked
5.3% blitzes = not activated, no tick

[heavy ridge]

o7

[naive otter]

@heavy ridge i could not get proper data on the elder % or who did it but one of 3 IRS/ all low in elder % around noon triggered a yellow but did not get the tic at all

[heavy ridge]

Alright, that's good news. That matches what I was expecting.

Once I've got the actuvations marked out, I'll start in on those.

[naive otter]

so far with the yellow Geode and IR around noon
there was a IR with 5.9% did not trigger
another IR was 86% or so (could have been the primary trigger)
but there was a white IR whom didnt give me their elder % but i know they could not trigger it
@heavy ridge it was so hard to get the info from the IRs because they all kept spam calling it and it caught me off guard

those are the deets around what i could for the IR/Noon/Yellow Geode

[heavy ridge]

Ty v much, it's appreciated ❤️

[last minnow]

not sure if i said this before but i think yellow works at night for IR that are 2%, i wish i could tell if it was red or yellow when it happened

watched someone in my group do it

[heavy ridge]

❤️ will keep that in mind

[ionic trench]

still no luck with red on 40% blitz
night

[naive otter]

@heavy ridge i got some serious news!!

Bliz/White/Evening/ 18% and 22%! two blitz

BUTTTTTTTT A FLAME STALKER ALSO GOT THE TIC

[cosmic river]

100% sure it was white?

[naive otter]

100%

[cosmic river]

[naive otter]

it was white, it was humming. all the goods

the FS was 87.7% for its elder progress!

[heavy ridge]

Wonderful!
Do we know which blitz started it?

[naive otter]

i started it! which i am the 18%

[heavy ridge]

Perfect! Congrats!

[cosmic river]

i feel like we need to spread out here
have a group of different elder prog dragons of each species going around trying anything and everything
then another group of another species doing the same

we'd get much more info that way

[naive otter]

ccould white be possible for anytime of day no matter what dragon they are??? i need to test white more but i hardly see them!

[cosmic river]

during testing white was for all dragon types yes

[heavy ridge]

I think I'm very glad I'm considering making the chart a circle.

[naive otter]

so if white is for all, it makes sense for it to also be more rare to appear

[cosmic river]

has anyone tried to actively change a geodes color instead of popping it?

[naive otter]

@heavy ridge FS/Evening/Green/89%

trigger and tic!

[robust lynx]

hey does anyone know if their is a timer for the crystals been waiting for an hour almost but no color is showing yet

[naive otter]

we dont know. it seems to be random. keep migrating around to the geodes is the fastest way to find one

[heavy ridge]

They're randomized.
But there's nearly always 1 garenteed active

[cosmic river]

its non campable and future proofed

sitting by one will not make it glow

[naive otter]

[cosmic river]

during testing 2 were confirmed to be active at the same time

also on a private server on 1.1 confirmed so far

havent seen 2 active on officials though but ie not been hunting them yet

[robust lynx]

ok!

[naive otter]

i can confirm this, i have either seen or been told of another while also being near an active one, but somewhere on the map there will be one active correct?

[cosmic river]

correct

one was active at br and another was found at arch on the private server i was on

could be close, could be far, could be in the same location also

[naive otter]

aye! i've been at ravine and someone telling me another would be active on arch or BR

[cosmic river]

im glad that stayed the same

[last minnow]

alr so my 50% ss can still trigger blue crystals at night!

got the tick an everything

the ir behind me didnt get anything

[ionic trench]

cyan
tried day and night (admin set)
40%, 8%, 10.7%, no luck
all blitz

[naive otter]

with what species? SS?

ah

[ionic trench]

mb fixed

[naive otter]

thanks!

[heavy ridge]

The more times that comes in as consistent, the better ❤️

Very touroughly verified there ❤️

[mossy lark]

Has there been any confirmed for IR? been trying but had no luck with any ive found, only got a tick from a red activated by fs

[last minnow]

red at night works on IR

[worthy python]

fyi there are some crystals missing on this map but its still really good

[last minnow]

and possibly yellow, really wish i remembered if it really was yellow

[heavy ridge]

Thank Weasel

[mossy lark]

I've tried yellow with no luck on ir, but it was night both times

[heavy ridge]

It looks like the colors that work for you may work depending on your elder %, we're double checking that now.

[worthy python]

ur on my opp list now /j

[last minnow]

ticks?

i mean elder % omg

flying and typing rn

[naive otter]

we tried red at dusk with blitz and IR with no luck. ranging from many elder %

[mossy lark]

below ten, atleast 6 - 7

[heavy ridge]

Lol, the tree jump into the air at ya?

[last minnow]

was trying to make sure that wasnt gonna happen lol

[naive otter]

21.3% blitz, 24.7% blitz and two IRs one under 20% and one above 80%

[latent meadow]

Okay, back home, time to test more.

[ionic trench]

Magenta / night
10.7% activated it, 40% present
both received tick (40% didnt roar at all)

[heavy ridge]

Good, that tracks with the other night time ticks, and what I building to think is true about the shared ticks.

[ionic trench]

is it my rng or is white the rarest color for them to be?

[heavy ridge]

White is rare, appears to work for everyone

[naive otter]

@heavy ridge SS/Blue/Night i've so far it has worked from 28% up to 41%
I think???? if im doing the math right because i've done a few blues at night and a few cyans during noon (i think cyan for me is going to stop working soon)

[latent meadow]

I had no luck on that unofficial server, but I've made it back into Sanctuary on my FS and I'm seeking active crystals now.

[ionic trench]

Blue
42.7% blitz = response, tick
13.3%, 8% blitz = nothing, no tick
Tried day and night, only worked during the day

[heavy ridge]

o7

[velvet spire]

Do y’all just go over the list of the crystals hoping you will get one that is glowing?

Just got in to sanctuary so I’m going to try to see if I get lucky this time

[heavy ridge]

Pretty much. There's no ryme or reason for why they light up before you get there

[ionic trench]

i just scream at every active crystal i find and write down whether or not it works

[cosmic river]

ive been finding only blues >:(

dont got a blitz on flaming yet

[heavy ridge]

Blues seem to start working for blitz starting at 34.7%, that's a bit of a haul just for one color ❤️

[latent meadow]

Had another mass-screaming at a cyan... Six SS, two IR, a blitz, and a bio. Only one SS was above 50%, didn't respond to any of us in midday.

[gaunt stream]

[heavy ridge]

Oooooh, let me guess?

Blitz was either below 26% or above 34%

[latent meadow]

Correction! Blitz <20% got it to proc!

[heavy ridge]

Can you get their exact % for me?

[latent meadow]

They said they're a flat 20% now after the burst.

[naive otter]

@heavy ridge we had a white, we could not get it to trigger at night with anything from different ranges of elder %

[heavy ridge]

What did you have?

[velvet spire]

I guess if you don’t hear the rumble but the crystal is glowing, that means is not for that dragon?

[ionic trench]

alright nother one

Magenta / Night
Blitzes: 45.3%, 13.3%, 8%, 0%
All four could scream at it, all four received ticks

[ionic trench]

I hear any/all active crystal rumble even if I can't activate it

[naive otter]

tried FS which was 91.4% a blitz which was 24.7%. a IR (which i dont have its elder prog but was small). my ASD which is 94.8% (too far from the geode because its under the tree near jakhron falls)

did not attempt a bio tho.

but it is humming, a very faint white color to it.

[velvet spire]

I got to this one south of br and could t hear it at all and it was me and another dragon first. 30 secs later I couldn’t hear anything besides screaming lol

[naive otter]

myy SS is 43.7% aswell! none of them worked for this white geode at night

[velvet spire]

I’m in sanctuary if anyone wants to go around the map looking for crystals

[naive otter]

we also tried a fresh adult blitz with no luck at night with the white geode.

[heavy ridge]

I'm seeing several cases of overlap between green no longer working, and cyan starting, for blitz during the day.
But no outliers beyond that ~2% overlap.

[naive otter]

hmm interesting honestly

[heavy ridge]

Back up the elevator I go ❤️

[latent meadow]

Found a green, SS 41%, blitz 20%, and IR 6.4% didn't work... I'm having insane difficulties just reaching the thing because it's the ceiling geode. Midday.

[ionic trench]

oh that one is so annoying

[latent meadow]

Made it up here, my 0.9% FS couldn't proc it either.

[velvet spire]

Who gets this type ?

[ionic trench]

magenta
works on blitz strikers at night, at least up to 45%
not sure about other species

[heavy ridge]

We also have a report form an IR at 50% getting a Magenta in the morning, a second in the evening.

The 3.4% IR they were with got squat

[latent meadow]

Found a magenta crystal with two blitz, two SS, two IR, and one FS all single-digit %, evening. No response.

[heavy ridge]

[Burries head in hands]
So I don't have enough IR/FS data to be certain

But there's the same green>cyan>blue daylight pattern as you go up in growth percentage in SS and BS.

IR and FS, I have like, 20 datapoints, half of them nulls, but they... they have some overlap.

I think it might be determined by Danger Class

[heavy ridge]

Wait for Night, the Blitz will be able to set it off

[naive otter]

OH! I FORGOT TO MENTION!!! i couldnt trigger a magenta at night with blitz past 21%

i dont know if i mentioned that or not.. but now its here

[heavy ridge]

You didn't, but that's good.

[naive otter]

yeah someone under 20% did tho as they triggered but i was too far to test to see if i could grab tic

[ionic trench]

ohh that's interesting
I got a tick from a night magenta
everyone else was 11% or below but i got a tick at over 40

[naive otter]

interesting.. maybe i was aiming wrong?

[heavy ridge]

I have a few like that marked down, yeah.

None 20-30s

Shrimp, got a tick, or activated the crystal yourself?

[ionic trench]

not the first time

second time i was yelling but i dont know if it counted me
both gave ticks

next one i see ill try to activate myself

[heavy ridge]

Ty ❤️ ill mark those 40s down as tentative until I hear back, either way, it's good data to have ❤️

[naive otter]

is it possible weather might have an effect on certain things

my clan mates are doing geode testing, and said they attempted a certain color at a certain time of weather then it did after it had changed weather.

im not 100% sure on it and would love extra testing!

[heavy ridge]

Elevator post

[heavy ridge]

Mia said they only got Blitz Night Magenta when the Auoras were out.

Which is... most of the night.

It's like 50/50 and real hard to control for.

I'll add it back in as tentative, because there is certainly something funky about night crystals.

Because we also have a null Night Magenta case from a blitz, this time at 2.7%

It could be the lighting, making one color look like another, but...
I'll leave it open.

Oh!

next person who finds a yellow on a Bio.

Try and call it, but let it change instead of completing it. I want to see if it's consistent. We're getting a lot of "but no one got ticks" from yellows anyway,

Let's try rolling the yellow a few times?

-# I'm going to take a break for a little bit. Feel free to ping me.

[naive otter]

earlier i asked a bio to change a yellow and it changed to a magenta during dawn time

[heavy ridge]

Okay, probably RNG based then.

Anyone new slides in. I've got enough data to confidently say that several dragons have a color-progression as they grow in elder %.

[latent meadow]

2.3% SS couldn't trigger a blue at night, 76% FS got a red to trigger at night.

[heavy ridge]

Appreciated, need more IR/FS data

[latent meadow]

I'm doing my best on FS, so I'll contribute best I can. lol

[heavy ridge]

o7

[latent meadow]

I'm currently 0.9%, tried a magenta in the evening and it didn't proc.

[heavy ridge]

I dont have much for low% FS (that is to say, I have one null case) but you might be able to get a yellow midday. There's a confusing case of multiple dragons I'm trying to untangle.

[sly cedar]

I got 2 Active Elder Crystal ticks today. One from a green crystal. Time of day noon with rainy weather. This second jsut now, Purple at NIght. Clear/cloudy skies. I am a Fresh spawn BL E Male Blitz. Very first near my morning was 1 Passive. I am currently sitting at 4.0%

[ionic trench]

Alright, the plot thickens
Dark blue
48% / 10.3% blitzes
Dusk: fail
Night: fail
Morning: fail

[heavy ridge]

At a guess, you're under 20% elder?

[sly cedar]

yes I am.

[heavy ridge]

That means my method is working, lovely ❤️

[sly cedar]

I've run into yellows, reds and cyans crystals today. tried screaming. saw no change.

Forgot the times. some I listed in screenshots

[heavy ridge]

We might have hit the top of blue for blitz then.

@ionic trench if I've got this right, you should have one more color (it might be daytime Magenta) and then Reds should work for you when you hit the top of the 50% range.

Or red is your next lucky color

[ionic trench]

the server I'm on just restarted 😭 hoping i didnt loose any progress

[heavy ridge]

❤️

[sly cedar]

I only just foudn this newer thread tonight. Has it been ruled out that tehre may be a cooldown after activating a crystal tick?

[ionic trench]

looks like i'm good, got my 48% still
do crystals work right after restart or is it like shroom where u gotta wait a while

[heavy ridge]

Should probably work.

[heavy ridge]

I don't think anyone's found them fast enough for it to matter XD

But a good question ❤️

[wide canopy]

I can currently confirm

everyone who has gotten a tick during my hunt has NOT recieved anymore in that ENTIRE 2-4span. With over 20 crystals per the 2 days.

If they got a tick, they would FAIL to recieve another

[heavy ridge]

24 hour?
Shrimp has been pulling in like, well over 20% growth all day

[wide canopy]

2-4*

MY BAD

[heavy ridge]

K ❤️

[ionic trench]

lemme check my notes for how often i got ticks

this is yesterday
each line is one circuit of my loop of 30 crystals, each taking 25-35 minutes
numebr = how many times i could trigger a crystal during that loop

these were all done solo , only person on the server, so i only tracked crystals i could trigger on my own
did not run into any issues of triggering a crystal but not getting a tick

[heavy ridge]

Yeah, that's well under 2 hours

The cooldown, if one existed would have to be under half an hour.

[ionic trench]

this is my full data for solo runs if it's useful for any reason

and totals

got a magenta!

Magenta / Night
48% Blitz could start the glowing
48% blitz and 10.3% blitz both received tick

[heavy ridge]

💖 appreciated!

[Something is weird with Night Crystals]

[gaunt stream]

So, reading and catching up:

• Colors work based on Eldering% (from what I've observed from chat)

• Time 100% affects the crystals as well as when each dragon can use them based off of what% they are

• Weather can be a contributing factor

[heavy ridge]

P much.

I havnt found anything consistant with weather yet. But Night Crystals definitely don't follow the same pattern as Day Crystals

But if a crystal will work in the morning, but not at noon, it will also work in the evening.

[gaunt stream]

Doesn't surprise me, Jao has hinted with the 1.0 Eldering nighttime plays a heavy factor

[ionic trench]

50.7% now, going to eat some food irl and then keep looking
i wonder if 50% will mean a change in crystals that work

[heavy ridge]

And it looks like BS and SS have the same Day Pattern so far (established up until ~48%)

And high stat FS and IR may have overlap in day crystals as well

[gaunt stream]

A lot to think about

[heavy ridge]

Which, makes me think Day Crystals are based on Danger Class. (Which makes more sense then each having an individual progression, and allows Jao to make eldering more/less difficult based on DC and the relative rarity of crystal colors)

[gaunt stream]

[heavy ridge]

If it is based on DC, and Nanner's vague description is correct.

Shrimp's next Day Crystal should be red.

[gaunt stream]

We 👏 are 👏 getting 👏 Somewhere

[heavy ridge]

Darn tootin

[latent meadow]

3.8% SS got a blue, early morning during a rainstorm.

6.3% SS nearby got no tick.

[heavy ridge]

Hmmmmm. It says "morning" in the menu?

[sly cedar]

what are your night crystals? I got a blue one rn at Night fro my Blitz. still at 4%. i see no reaction. ;-;

[heavy ridge]

Ive got Magenta as a Blitz Night Crystal, and Blue as SS Night Crystal.

[sly cedar]

ohh i see

I colleceted a Green at I think it was Noon on Blitz

[heavy ridge]

Red as Night Crystal for both IR and FS, Green for ASD. Which, smells like bile type.

[heavy ridge]

That's following the pattern for Blitz Day Crystals so far!

Keep an eye out once you hit between 16 and 20%

See if you notice any changes about your activations during the day ❤️

[sly cedar]

ah ok! gotcha 🙂

[heavy ridge]

Once we get up past 50% elder, I don't have much data (not much data for FS/IR or ASD in general, but what I do have, is usually in the 60s-80s)

But I'm seeing some wonky morning/evening crystals. I'll keep folks posted as more data comes in ❤️

[latent meadow]

I'm calling it for now, brain is oatmeal. lol

[heavy ridge]

Fair. I'm not even in game, and mine is starting to mush.

[latent meadow]

lol We had a few active, and the server was working very nicely together to see what worked and what didn't.

[heavy ridge]

❤️ that's lovely

[latent meadow]

GreyScales is on Sanctuary as a fresh adult FS, so hopefully he can get in this thread and post his results, if he's on discord.

I should change my name here to reflect my Steam name...

There we go.

[heavy ridge]

Huh, feel like I might have seen you around in game at some point.

Nice name

[gaunt stream]

Once I get done with work, I'm gonna go home, sleep, wake up, nest some skins, then help work on the crystals

[heavy ridge]

Gods, I have my statistics class in 9 hours. Havnt I done enough Data crunching?

[ionic trench]

13% / 50.7% blitz
cyan
tried each time of day + Night
no luck

[heavy ridge]

Appreciate it o7
You're doing the hard work to verify what we think we know.

[latent meadow]

For the record, on all the incidents I posted tonight (green/magenta/blue), my 0.9% FS didn't trigger any of them.

[heavy ridge]

Appreciated. I'm pretty sure each Danger Class has a different color set for Day Crystals, but you'll likely be able to get Reds on FS at night.

I'll need confirmation to be sure, but I'm pretty certain it works that way

[latent meadow]

I'm unfamiliar with danger class, but I'll post what I know. :]

[ionic trench]

danger class is where hatchlings go to learn to fight :)

[latent meadow]

lol

[heavy ridge]

Sure!
ASD is a Danger Class of 3, "Pack Class"
SS and BS are Danger Class 4, "Large Class"
FS and IR are Danger Class 5, "Hunter Class"

||Danger Class is how Jao scales the effectiveness of a dragon's base stats, it's why you're supposed to have 2 SS to try and fight 1 FS||

[ionic trench]

||ASD can still solo a FS tho||

[heavy ridge]

|| If you're skilled, or catch/force it on the ground, sure, but by the numbers, a FS can toast ya real good||

||it's not the most comprehensive system, but it'll let you know the BW is about twice as powerful as the FS||

[ionic trench]

more blitz:
green crystal, daytime (morning)
13% ticked
50.7% no tick

[latent meadow]

||I can't wait for the hybrid to come out, then...||

[heavy ridge]

I think the amount of data you're providing proves it quite nicely.

The %s for colors? They go something like 0-18, 18-34, 34-48, 48-?

If you can activate the crystal, you'll get the tick if someone else activates it. If you can't activate the crystal, but you're only one bucket over, you'll still get the tick (so if the other blitz is like 13%, and you're under 34%). But if you're two buckets over (the other blitz is 13%, and you're ~40%) you won't get the shared tick.

Your %s have to be close enough to share ticks from Day Crystals.

Night Crystals it probably doesn't matter, so long as you have the same kind of Night Crystal.

[ionic trench]

new development:
13% blitz from earlier is now 16% and is unable to activate the next green we found

[heavy ridge]

Nanner had a case with a SS at 60% getting reds, and the IRs and FSs with them not getting ticks. I bet that was during the day.

[ionic trench]

this IS with the ceiling crystal though, and the game is being finicky; will verify with another green if we can find one

[heavy ridge]

Good, they're having the same case as the other Blitzes. They'll be activating Cyans next then.

[heavy ridge]

o7 looking forward to trying to figure out where the boarder of the bucket is ❤️

[ionic trench]

just watching my thumbs get longer and longer lol
(my blitz is a boy)

[heavy ridge]

Awww ❤️

[ionic trench]

i think zeus is mad at me for screaming at all these rocks
it went from sunny and clear to thunderstorm in 0.003 seconds

[last minnow]

i come back with great news! my ss activated a magenta crystal at dawn! 51% elder

52*

[naive otter]

new info.
Green/Morning
2 blitz, 2 IR
Fresh Adults: 1 IR and 1 Blitz obtained tic
almost a 30% blitz and the bigger IR did not get the tic

i dont know tic % of the 2 IRs and the other blitz. but i hope this is helpful either way

[heavy ridge]

Very much so.
Do you know if it was the small IR that activated the crystal?

[naive otter]

it was the younger blitz

[heavy ridge]

Okay, that tracks. Ty ❤️

[last minnow]

adding to this, the blitz next to me with 1% didnt get anything

[heavy ridge]

Also, Heck yeah! Next color!

[last minnow]

pretty happy to see new colors starting to work for me now

[heavy ridge]

That would confirm then, that you don't get Night Crystal shares, if someone sets off a Day Crystal, good.

[heavy ridge]

You're probably not, but if you're still around that IR pair, can you ask if the smaller has gotten successful Green or Cyan activations?

[ionic trench]

i have news!! interesting news

[heavy ridge]

Hit me

[ionic trench]

2 blitz again, found magenta, at noon
50.7% : activation, tick
16%: no tick

so it seems that even though 16% blitz can get the magenta tick at night, it can't during the day

[heavy ridge]

Good, good, that's 3 cases now, 2 confirmed, 1 speculated.
very good

[ionic trench]

https://tenor.com/view/kronk-its-all-coming-together-gif-15058130

[heavy ridge]

Also confirms Blitz and SS have the same growth pattern.

[ionic trench]

and theyre the same class iirc

[heavy ridge]

They are.

And I have 2 cases of FS and IR not getting Day Greens at less then 10% Elder, the way BS and SS do

[wide canopy]

Gimme the crystal pic please elder system chat

[heavy ridge]

BS/SS go green>cyan>blue>magenta>red

So that leaves Yellow, and White, as the two colors that havnt been used. That's not enough to get to 100%

This one?

[wide canopy]

Thank you

[heavy ridge]

Anytime

Actually, it might be enough. Barely

[ionic trench]

can confirm that 16% and 53.3% blitzes can not activate green, day or night

[heavy ridge]

Ty ty ❤️

16% is the cutoff then

Bad News from the Zones, Tumbleweeds.

I think the last stretch to elder for BS/SS is going to be White as your Day Crystal.

Good News, you should be in the bucket where Bio-activated Yellows will tick you through it. And there's always Night Crystals.

[ionic trench]

i've literally only seen one white crystal so far O.O

[tardy perch]

I'm gonna need a run down once you guys are positive you've nailed this. Sounds like an interesting ladder of ascension

[sly cedar]

I thought I saw a white crystal twice a the top of the Falls. That one crystal jutting out from the side... but when I turn my camera I feel like it's just a sky reflection. :/ and both these instances were during the day. was realyl hard to tell for me.

[ionic trench]

seems like it's getting pretty solid on blitz
and by this point im determined to figure blitz out
but i might have to take a long break after that because my bones dislike sitting in one spot forso long

[blissful beacon]

I got an elder tick with yellow, close to evening. Don’t think there was any rain.

On SS

[sly cedar]

I'm growing an ASD to test.

I'm not lookign forward to all the crystals I can't reach lol

[heavy ridge]

Gonna need your elder %

[blissful beacon]

Right. It was 98.8

[sly cedar]

O.o

[blissful beacon]

Got to 100%

[heavy ridge]

Dang. Alright, yellow brings us right up to the bar then

[ionic trench]

so maybe blitz will be white > yellow

[gaunt stream]

So then, that begs the question, where does white fall in?

[blissful beacon]

Idk but you guys are killin it! Thanks for all the hard work you’re putting in on this

[heavy ridge]

White works for everyone, any %, so long as it's during the day.

[blissful beacon]

💕

[heavy ridge]

❤️

So my question is.

Are my two cases of baby IR/FSs not able to use greens, misidentifying the color in front of them, or are the other dragons offset?

[ionic trench]

16% blitz could activate cyan during day (noon)
53.3% blitz did not get a tick

[heavy ridge]

You're carrying the number crunchers through this, shrimp.

[ionic trench]

o7 i'm doing my part

[gaunt stream]

You guys are doing brilliantly

[ionic trench]

i got a perfect storm of situation that allows me to do this lol

[heavy ridge]

❤️ we need a person to hop on a below 16% dragon that isn't BS, SS, or Bio, and go find a green

during the day I should specify

[gray mango]

purple likes blitz

[heavy ridge]

Yeah, yours at night?

[gray mango]

yes its at night

also clear weather

[heavy ridge]

💖 that's good to confirm then.

It looks like Purple (Magenta) always works at night for Blitz

(Except in 2 cases where it hasn't)

Can I ask what your elder % is?

[gray mango]

uhh it wasn't me but I was with someone

@white tendon

[heavy ridge]

💕 it's lovely that you decided to stop by and share with us

[gray mango]

yeye

[sly cedar]

I'm almost adult on my asd. so I'll run around and check

[heavy ridge]

💖 much appreciated, Bublio

If Im doing my math right, you should be able to confirm it for me if you find either a green or a cyan during the day.

[sly cedar]

If I can even find one in time lol

lucky flyers

[ionic trench]

53.3% blitz - dark blue
not workin day or night
same for 18.7% blitz

[heavy ridge]

Whatever you can manage, is appreciated

[heavy ridge]

o7

|| ive got to go dark for an hour, I'll be back once I get home, see yall in a little bit ❤️ ||

[velvet spire]

Anyone online in sanctuary hunting down crystals?

[last minnow]

red still doesnt function in the daytime for ss, 53%

[white tendon]

hello

want me to post the stuffs?

[ionic trench]

the more the merrier!

[white tendon]

Basically, it was glowing magenta/purple, and humming. I brought all my dragons to it but it only wanted blitz and it seemed to glow at sunset and then popped at night after I screamed at it a bunch. my friend is editing the video right now so i'll be able to send a file soon

weather was clear

[ionic trench]

can you grab the % growht of all the dragons if posibl?

[white tendon]

blitz had no elder, now it's at 2.7. (growth)

Boutta send a video lol

[sly cedar]

Have the crystals ever changed colors immeditaely after the other? Activation or not.

Like from Blue to red?

[white tendon]

I couldn't know

but this one was consistently purple lol

[ionic trench]

i think if someone activates one but doesn't finish, it will change colors
but one that deactivates on it's own just seems to go back dormant

[white tendon]

friend is converting video to mp4 cus my obs isnt set to output that file lol

[rain herald]

anyone know if crystals are more active based on server pop? i swear every crystal i see on my server is inactive, and there's barely a handfull of people on

[tame dagger]

i was thinking the same thing

[white tendon]

sorry if speaking

[rain herald]

the one i've found was purple, during the day, but it didn't respond to my fs

[white tendon]

sorry didnt have time to cut but it exploded at 0:24, and the tick took a minute to register.

[heavy ridge]

There's a garentee of at least 2 active at a time. But otherwise it's rng based.

However it is possible for all of them to be active at once. Nearly impossible, for how unlikely it is, but possible

[rain herald]

gotcha

[ionic trench]

weather update: i have lost my admin and can no longer shoo the sun away for testing

53.3% blitz cannot activate yellow, daytime

flying my bio there now to see what it changes to, if possible

[naive otter]

is it dawn, morning or noon? it may be specific between the time of day specifically btw

[latent meadow]

Back at it, got a 20% SS calling to a blue at dusk. No effect.

[gaunt stream]

||Side Note: We now have 36 confirmed Crystal locations||

[ionic trench]

evening

crystal glowing, now waiting for it to stop

uh.. it just stayed yellow

[naive otter]

do it again

[ionic trench]

o7

[naive otter]

or wait a second sometimes it gives it a min

i noticed sometimes it stays and i would repeat the process of a fail geode by 1 calling once, waiting and watching if it changes. if yes. i proceed if not then i shout again

[ionic trench]

it's still yellow XD

OP

cyan

hm

that's not helpful >:I

[naive otter]

cyan during evening, can you attempt a SS, blitz or IR?

giving out possibilities

[ionic trench]

blitz cant do it (53.3)

everyone else on this server is already elder

now i have two active cyans.. (glare)

[latent meadow]

Just had a 1.3% blitz call at a magenta at night and go to 2.7% after it burst. :]

That same blitz went to a blue just now to no effect.

[ionic trench]

trying to find crystals be like

whatin the name of discord compression-

[sly cedar]

being grounded as ads SUCKS lol. teh struggle is real! xD

[ionic trench]

i have

a slight problem

help?

[latent meadow]

Oh no. lol

[ionic trench]

i cant get out

im going to lose this dragon

goodbye, cruel world

[latent meadow]

Blitz just tried another purple and couldn't proc it... I wonder why this one won't and the one moments ago did?

[latent meadow]

Can you safelog?

[ionic trench]

... how ?

[sly cedar]

bruh I can't climb arch at night to drop down for one of teh crystals. it's nv is just too dark to see that far down. I have landed and probabaly broken every bone in my body for htis. XD Moving on haha

[heavy ridge]

/ stuck

[ionic trench]

well
when i fell far enough it snapped me back onto the terrain at 0.5% health

[ionic trench]

didnt work

[heavy ridge]

And then / verystuck

[naive otter]

@heavy ridge my friend whom is eldering a blitz cannot get green at all after 27.3%. what should they possibly focus on now?

[gray ocean]

Let yourself fall all the way through the world, it'll TP you back up

[heavy ridge]

Well that's good at least

[ionic trench]

verystuck requires /stuck to work

[heavy ridge]

Cyan, and after ~34, blue

[ionic trench]

reason #34,923 i don't play pvp lol

back to crystals

[naive otter]

alr

[heavy ridge]

Were they both at night?
The only lead we had was if/if not the aurora was out

[heavy ridge]

Might be worth letting them know, that at night, it's magenta for blitz.

[latent meadow]

Aurora on both, though it's possible they might have mistaken the disabled geode for "purple" like I sometimes did.

[naive otter]

after talking with some others, they too have also confirmed it to be also similar

my friend did at least and confirmed it with me that she believes it could be. however cyan has not been easy to find

[latent meadow]

SS 1% just activated a blue at night with aurora.

[naive otter]

useful!

so basically its possible a fresh SS adult could get blue at night?

[white tendon]

Do any of you know anything about red glow?

Found a green, meowed at it with my bio and it glowed, couldnt get it to pop with any of my elderable dragons and now its red and does nothing even with my bio

[ionic trench]

yellow does not work with blitz 53.3% at night (same as day)
Bio also cant trigger it at night

[heavy ridge]

Day Crystals and Night Crystals are two different systems. It'll even separate your shared ticks based on if it's night or day.

From the data I have, SS is always Blue at night, regardless of growth, same as Blitz always being Magenta.

I've only got a handful of datapoints for the rest, but FS and IR are both Red at night, and ASD is green.

Personal Theory, is it's based on element type

[white tendon]

weather also changed sometime around when the color shifted to red btw

[heavy ridge]

You at night or at day?

[white tendon]

day

[heavy ridge]

Day is going to be dependant on elder growth %,
If you can find someone in the bucket to pop red, you should be able to recieve the tick for standing next to it, if your dragons can currently pop magenta, red or yellow during the day.

[white tendon]

in the bucket?

also how high do you have to be elder wise to pop it

at day

[heavy ridge]

Sorry, stats reference a "bucket" is a range of values lumped into one group

[heavy ridge]

Checking the sheet, one mo

[white tendon]

oh theres a sheet? is it public?

[heavy ridge]

~60s for SS & BS, ~70s for IR

[heavy ridge]

Litteral sheet of paper I've written %s on

[white tendon]

oh I tried my blitz on the green one at day, it didnt work btw

but it could have started raining by then so idk if that messes it up

[sly cedar]

ASD havign the TREKS of its life... Time: Night. Weather, clear. Elder %: 0. will update soon.
IMMEDIATE GLOW.

[heavy ridge]

Day Greens for Blitz is going to be between 0-16% growth. That one we know exactly

[white tendon]

well he was at 2.7

elder

[chilly iris]

Red Crystal at night used to work for my IR under 50% but no longer do @heavy ridge

[heavy ridge]

@cosmic river sorry if I'm waking you, color check?

[heavy ridge]

Good to know, info on IRs is sparce rn

[sly cedar]

Green crystal. I"m on Fresh ASD. had no elder growth yet. Took 10 1calls. now at

oops --- 2.1% time is Night. weather clear.

[heavy ridge]

❤️ well done

[latent meadow]

Confirmed report of FS interacting with magenta at morning at 0%.

[heavy ridge]

What's your current %?

[chilly iris]

54.5%

[gaunt stream]

I take it back, it's 34, thanks to Hooza's help

[ionic trench]

blue / BS / 53,3% / ignored

[heavy ridge]

Well, that confirms offset then.

[sly cedar]

I interacted with 2 cyans(pretty sure they both cyans) earlier during... noon and maybe dusk?? no reactions.

[heavy ridge]

Got it.

Either the tick math throws off the cycle, or, it might not be a cycle

I was hoping for a nice, neat, circular infographic at the end of this.

[naive otter]

@chilly iris me and @reef ether have been talking together and i was about to say something so poggers!

[sly cedar]

it's kinda funny that green was again, the first color I was able to activate for both my dragons. just different times of day for the species.

[naive otter]

it is possible that the factors needed for the crystals to be consistent is

• Crystal Color
• Dragon Species
• Time of Day
• Elder %
  These have been so far the most consistent in all the reports given

just a reminder for everyone of the possibilities of what is needed to trigger a crystal

[ionic trench]

bruh i haven't found a working crystal in 2 hours :(

[heavy ridge]

[ionic trench]

my blitz better have the buff-est wing muscles in all the land by the end of this

[gaunt stream]

Muscle Man who? We have Muscle Blitz

[naive otter]

Muscle head Stryker? aka blitz

[ionic trench]

DoD I'm sobbing
quit it with the cyan and blue

[naive otter]

what are you trying to focus on? blitz? orr

[ionic trench]

blitz striker at 53.3%

[naive otter]

so far what has been your sucessful colors at what %?

between your journey

[ionic trench]

uh that's a gremlin question at this point

[naive otter]

uh oh gasp @heavy ridge halp! lets figure out what color Mr. Shrimp should focus on next for blitz!?

so far you're the highest blitz i know of!

[ionic trench]

i think im the furthest blitz who's participating in the data collection

[heavy ridge]

You were at 53, and getting Day Magentas, yeah?

[ionic trench]

uh yeah

[naive otter]

theyy gave up with cyans and blues it seems

at night right?

[ionic trench]

im just annoyed because the last six i've seen have been cyan and blue
and one yellow thatturned cyan

[heavy ridge]

Ouch 💕

[naive otter]

does green trigger early somewhere with blitz?

[heavy ridge]

It definitely seems like green cyan and blue are the most common

[ionic trench]

green is day at the beginning

cyan was later at some point

[heavy ridge]

Yeah, green is earliest

[ionic trench]

i had blue at night for a while i think

[naive otter]

mk. crossing out ideas, maybe white? or yellow?

[heavy ridge]

Green>Cyan>Blue>Magenta

[ionic trench]

magenta at night still worked last one i saw but twas a while ago

[heavy ridge]

Red would be next, if it follows the same path as the SS

[naive otter]

interesting 🤔

[ionic trench]

so i think i'm after magenta then
not sure tho because i only get blue now :(

[heavy ridge]

These are confirmation points only, not the nulls, because it's hard to differentiate with just the one ink color

Please note the one dinky little yellow confirmation out in the end of SS

[naive otter]

@heavy ridge Morning/Blitz/Cyan an 7% blitz failed and 27.3 blitz sucecss (jumped to 30% exactly)

[heavy ridge]

Suffice to say, there is a trend

I have 10 confirmed magenta-at-nights for Blitz, and 2 nulls for the same.

I have 5 confirmed Blue-at-nights for SS, 0 nulls for the same.

2 Green-at-night for ASD, 0 nulls

One Red-at-night each for FS and IR, 1 null for IR

[naive otter]

me who wants to write all this down but also cant wahh

[ionic trench]

this is the math i wanted to be doing
i made the form and sheet

then i remembered that I suck at math

also say hello to ANOTHER CYAN

[sly cedar]

I have grave news. I was stupid and I got my ASD stuck in Ravine. ;-; Aurora valiantly saved me... too late. I died upon port. lololol

[heavy ridge]

Oh no!

[ionic trench]

another tragic death in the name of science
we will remember you, brave hero

[sly cedar]

I thoguht they fixed that zone to where there was a ramp for non flyers to get out. 😦 was still too steep it seems.

[gray ocean]

Are the %s elder %?

[heavy ridge]

Yup!

[sly cedar]

WELP, don't take yor ASDs down to Ravine for that crystal yet! ... another crystal out of reach for ASDs.. this is brutal for them.

[gray ocean]

Did you get time of day with those? What's the difference between the circles and the dots? XD

and the X's

[naive otter]

NOOOOOO 😭

[ionic trench]

I suspect Hooza of being a spy, intending to report to Jao how close we are

begone , spy

(/joke tone)

[gray ocean]

😭

[heavy ridge]

Those are all at non-night hours. Circles are receiving ticks from crystals they did not activate themselves.

(I was going to add the nulls as ×s, and then realized, no, that's going to make it unreadable to the laymen.)

Thanks to @ionic trench I have hard outs for the Blitz,
Green stops at 16%
Cyan stops at 34.7%
Blue stops at 48%

You can still receive ticks if you're outside of that range, but only the next bucket over, any further, (or at night) and you get nothing.

[ionic trench]

happy 3 hours to not finding a single working crystal

[heavy ridge]

Some of the posters marked them as "day" or "evening" or "dusk"
It's inconsistent, but I have them on my data sheet

[ionic trench]

that's >180 crystals i have checked and not gotten to use

:(

[latent meadow]

FS 0.9%, red crystal, dawn, no response... >:c

[umbral oyster]

I activated a white one on saturday. If I can remember it well it was daylight and my blitz was around 10%.

[naive otter]

@heavy ridge Blitz/Cyan can trigger during mornings/noons but cant at evenings? correct?

[ionic trench]

please anything that isn't blue or cyan

i will take it

[hasty vector]

@ionic trench it just kicked me AGAIN i can't with this game

[ionic trench]

oof

gremlinnnnn i got one
56% blitz (got my passive tick) got magenta during dawn, now 58.7

[cosmic river]

@heavy ridge green

[naive otter]

@heavy ridge blitz/cyan/Noon/32.7 could not activate (from @reef ether)

[reef ether]

yeah crystal being stinky 😠

ive not tried morning yet with a cyan since i hit 32.7 so might have to try that

[ionic trench]

aight its 1:47 AM so I'm gonna peace out for a few hours
leavin off at 58.7% growth
wonder if i can hit 80 tomorrow

[drowsy arch]

Is this stone for SS?

[naive otter]

depends on time of day

what is the time?

[drowsy arch]

night

[naive otter]

uhhh i have not attempt a cyan at night yet

[drowsy arch]

hmm

[naive otter]

@heavy ridge do you know if anything activates at night with cyan?

[drowsy arch]

There is no reaction on plasma in a thunderstorm at night yet

[naive otter]

teh one with the most info so far with how things have been.... which are...

• Color of geode
• Dragon Species
• Time of Day
• Elder %

these have been the most conistent depending on the factors needed to trigger

[drowsy arch]

• cyan
• ss
• night
• 0%
  So far there is no reaction, I will try to find another one and try again

[naive otter]

attempt a blue at night next time for me! @drowsy arch

cyan has so far worked with SS during noons with an estimate of 18% to 25% or so... im not sure

[drowsy arch]

It works with blue at night on SS

hm

ok, ty!

[latent meadow]

6.5% IR screamed at a green midday, me (0.9% FS) and another, larger FS had no effect, but got a tick.

[naive otter]

dont forget to ping @heavy ridge so they have the info

since i pinged this time dun forget for next time

[latent meadow]

Thank you~

[reef ether]

ive confirmed that cyan has stopped for my blitz at 32.7 tested at both noon and morning

[naive otter]

@heavy ridge

[drowsy arch]

And how much % does the increase start with?

[oak goblet]

Has anyone figured out if there is a fixed order for blitz? Or does it seem like each person has their own order?

[hasty vector]

Should be green->cyan->blue->magenta->red->???

[oak goblet]

For day or night?

[hasty vector]

Day, magenta at night iirc

[naive otter]

Morning/Blitz/Blue/32.7% Fail but they also failed a cyan previously noted above somewhere @heavy ridge any missing factor here?

they triggered but didnt not gain a tic for the blue

[naive otter]

Update: next blue, same settings as above and suceeded theyy could have been too far for the trigger

[cosmic river]

time noon, elder prog 0

@heavy ridge

[fast mason]

Am I the only one having difficulty distinguishing the glow on some crystals? Especially the ones near the large crystal objects since they like throw around the color onto the elder crystals? Idk if it's just my settings or what.

[hasty vector]

@heavy ridge ss/green/15%/noon/clear weather/FAILURE
I had assumed the threshold for the next crystal color was at 16%, so this one confused me

[cosmic river]

@heavy ridge

evening, 1.3%

[hasty vector]

@heavy ridge ss/cyan/15%/noon/rainy/SUCCESS

[gray ocean]

There is no day, only dawn, morning, noon, evening, dusk and night

[cosmic river]

evening, edler prog over 30%

blue ^

[drowsy ravine]

is it intended for every single crystal on the map to be Magenta/purple, surely not?

[cosmic river]

nop

theyre most common it seems like, ive found only blues on flaming falls

[drowsy ravine]

ive found 1 green that turned into purple after i activated it, not nothing else since

[gray ocean]

Exact number? Can't figure it out without accuracy. This could mean 30% to 99% xD too inaccurate

[cosmic river]

31 ish

[hasty vector]

whoopsie 😄

[cosmic river]

dusk, 33% @heavy ridge

blue

[gray ocean]

Those potato graphics

[bold tusk]

Fanfon

And hooza hooza

[cosmic river]

allows me to see colors better

seems like green is for 1-15% elder prog dragons
30% works with blue

ss confirmed so far

[reef ether]

okay @heavy ridge we just had a blitz at 8% at night activate a magenta crystal u got any info in that direction pls :>

[gray ocean]

My Theory (Dunno if it's super accurate, but it's what I got so far)

• White = All %
• Green = 0% - 16.6%
• Cyan = 16.7% - 33.2%
• Magenta = 33.3% - 49.8%
• Blue = 49.9% - 66.4%
• Red = 66.5% - 83%
• Yellow = 83.1% - 100%

From what I've gathered from my numbers

But also could be that time of day affects what color accepts what % range on each dragon (Or dragon Class)

[reef ether]

update on mine was 35% on blitz found another blue and it allowed me to activate at dawn

im now 38%

[cosmic river]

blue worked on 30% ss though twice

from 30 up go 33

to*

[gray ocean]

That's why I'm saying Time of day might affect what elder % range that specific crystal accepts

[cosmic river]

hopefully not

[gray ocean]

yeah idk T.T tis complicated

[cosmic river]

blue did work from evening to dusk

need more testing

[arctic turret]

So i came back with this update and im trying to understand. The color of the crystal decides whether you can eat it or not? In addition to time of day and elder growth?

[heavy ridge]

Should do evenings, but only between 16 and 34% growth

[blissful beacon]

You don't eat them, you 1 call them aka scream at them until they glow and then implode

[heavy ridge]

That may be upper cap then, ty for the precision, they'll be wanting blues after that

[heavy ridge]

Ty

[heavy ridge]

You'll want blues at night for SS (unfortunately clans don't work)

[heavy ridge]

No night cyans yet

[muted moat]

Wdym clans don’t work?

[heavy ridge]

o7 needed that

[heavy ridge]

That will be top of cyan cap then

[heavy ridge]

There's the weird case. Good to know what window it is.

[worldly blade]

hmm

[heavy ridge]

🤞 for user error

[heavy ridge]

Green fits the pattern, ty

[heavy ridge]

Havnt had a report from a 15% yet, that'll be the new top of the threshold, ty

[heavy ridge]

Good, that's as expected

[worldly blade]

hullo

[heavy ridge]

We've had "day" pattern crystals trigger on the moment the in game clock switched to dawn. Anything dawn-dusk we're considering "day"

[worldly blade]

have we found anything we’re able to replicate good results for yet

[heavy ridge]

👍 fits the pattern

[gray ocean]

Yes but I don't think you should be lumping in 3 times of day into 1 DX

as each has it's own purpose

[heavy ridge]

Magenta at night is a near-garentee, regardless of growth.
I've got some ~20 datapoints from all growths, with two nulls I'm tempted to chalk up to user error.

[heavy ridge]

That's what I've got so far for SS and Blitz, yeah,

Have some contradictory data from FS, IR, ASD

[drowsy ravine]

i feel like the Spawn % of crystals are really skewed toward Magenta/Blue

[heavy ridge]

Swapped the order on the magenta and blue, tho

[heavy ridge]

Each dragon (so far) has one color that always works at night, Blitz is Magenta, SS is blue

[heavy ridge]

Typo, sorry ❤️ cyans

[drowsy ravine]

always as in at any %?

[heavy ridge]

Fair, I've got them marked out separately by report in my papers, but so far it hasn't mattered, it's all overlap.

[heavy ridge]

Any %, yes

[drowsy ravine]

hmmm, ive tried multiple Magenta crystals at night and none of them and activated

[heavy ridge]

On blitz?

[drowsy ravine]

unless im mixing up blue and magenta in the darkness

yes

[heavy ridge]

Tell me your method?

[drowsy ravine]

i aim and 1 call at the white part?

[heavy ridge]

And maybe post a screenshot or two if you've got the opportunity

[heavy ridge]

Thats good, how close/far from the crystal are you

[cosmic river]

i can help tell them apart, send a screenshot once you find one

[cosmic river]

looks inactive

[drowsy ravine]

its just very dark and the SS is very pixelate for some reason

[worldly blade]

elder shrooms used to make juvies grow faster didn’t they…?

[cosmic river]

no

[worldly blade]

dang

[muted moat]

Ohhh scared me for a second ty for clarifying ❤️

[worldly blade]

coughs. well

if any of you are on glacier peak

[drowsy ravine]

heres a brighter one

[worldly blade]

there’s a magenta at the area i believe is called big arch

that i can’t yell at because i’m not old enough

[cosmic river]

inactive
you need to look at the bottom part of the geode

1s

[drowsy ravine]

really? i thought the black ones were inactive

[cosmic river]

like this one
the lower part is what changes color

[muted moat]

So the bottoms glow first?

[drowsy ravine]

oooooh

[cosmic river]

yes

you need to look for the bottom

[worldly blade]

:)

[cosmic river]

like here too

[cosmic river]

magenta

and this is black/inactive

[bright fern]

what do we know about red? trying to use it

[reef ether]

@heavy ridge what is next stopping point for blitz after blue do u know im at 38% right now wasnt sure if its in the fortys or otherwise

[heavy ridge]

It's in the 40s, I've got positive ticks at 42, iirc the report I got of it no longer working was at 48%
(But them getting night ticks could mean the cap is lower)

[reef ether]

okie i thought so

[heavy ridge]

We've got a color progression during the day, Blitz and SS don't hit red until around 60% elder growth.

We don't know the progression for IR, FS, or ASD for certain yet.

Red at night should work for IR and FS

[muted moat]

Ohhhhh

[bright fern]

do you get a notification when you get a tick?$

[heavy ridge]

There's a bit of a gap, and then you'll get a hint line that says "you feel stronger"

Makes sure you 1-call the glowing crystal until it explodes, don't stop part way.

And stand close enough, We've got reports of people activating it and not getting the tick, and the leading reason seems to be distance from the crystal

[arctic turret]

Ah so you need to call at it multiple times?

[heavy ridge]

The first time you call it, the center should glow white if it will work

You'll need to call it some 9-10 times to get it to explode

If you stop part way it will stop resonating and change color

[cosmic river]

yes
"You feel stronger..." at the bottom of the screen

[worldly blade]

just gonna keep posting these if that's alright they make me happy

[sly cedar]

Seems that mountain one likes to go green a lot... hmm..

[heavy ridge]

Please do ❤️ and if you can, please post them with uour elder%

[sly cedar]

man.. if I didn't lose my ASD last night I'd be all over that crystal. if i twas in my server lol Edit: I will regrow ti today and continue searchign for crystals to use

[slender arrow]

Is this a Minecraft game ?

[cosmic river]

no roblox

[ancient obsidian]

Seems like a wiki.io game

[acoustic holly]

Random thing I did: logged in as blitz, went to nearest crystal. No reaction. Swapped to Bio, suddenly the crystal was glowing purple. Swapped back to blitz, Crystal continued to glow.

1 called repeatedly, thrumming and crackling heard and then the crystal exploded. No growth attained.

Later found another crystal that was green, exploded and got the growth on blitz.

Not sure if because first 24 hours of being adult that the crystal didn’t count. The second crystal was found a day later.

[bright fern]

trying with all but asd, nothing

[half hound]

When i get home i will try with my 95% fs praying xD

[sly cedar]

Yellow at Dusk. No reaction. Elder status 0%

[clear pebble]

active green didnt react to 10.9% elder IR at night time.

[sly cedar]

same crystal(Yellow). Now Night. Also raining. No reaction to ASD calls.

[ionic trench]

Aaand I'm back
58.7% blitz / day / red crystal / no activation