New Elder System

[covert ocean]

Yeah so that supports the theory that time of day matters

Dusk happens after evening yup

It goes dawn morning noon evening dusk night

[cold summit]

so I guess it was noon when trying the red one

[covert ocean]

Evening seems to be used in place of afternoon

But it’s still bright out during it

Evening can be very bright still

[sweet forum]

Yeah, it refused to work until it was that time of night and raining, idk if the rain mattered but the time sure did

btw the screenshot is bright beecause i JUST got out of nv

[covert ocean]

Same as what I had with my ir. No response from red at dusk but worked when it turned to night

[wraith flame]

it can probably explain what jao said about the moons

[covert ocean]

What did he say?

[wraith flame]

that one riddle back then

[heavy ridge]

Different system entirely

[wraith flame]

i dont remember it that well

ah kk

was just a theory

[sweet forum]

Again this purple crystal blowing up gave the ss an elder tick, and a bs next to it a tick. however it didnt give the fs, the other bs, and me the ir a tick. (we even tried asd, no tick)

[ionic trench]

This seems to line up with my idea hmm
-# but i've only got 32 responses so far and most of them are me on the same dragon. 168 combos of species/time/activation/color so 32 is not enough to draw any kind of conclusion

[covert ocean]

Were they at a similar distance?

[heavy ridge]

🦐 🦐 🦐
Welcome back

[covert ocean]

Also 32 responses just on your account holy cow

Have you slept yet?

[ionic trench]

what do you mean?

[covert ocean]

That’s so many ticks in such a short time lmao

[sweet forum]

we were all ontop of it basically xD

[covert ocean]

That’s about the total number of active geodes I found on the media branch… across several days

[ionic trench]

16 of them are on my blitz
i spent 8 hours flying circuits yesterday lol

[covert ocean]

Only like 10 ticks lol

Granted there were less geodes on there

[ionic trench]

most of them are negative too which is useful but positive responses are necessary

[covert ocean]

Oh no

Oh no we stoopid

😂

[gloomy sand]

no thats so helpful

[maiden island]

[covert ocean]

I mean yes

But also

Oh no

[heavy ridge]

You said something about a spreadsheet yesterday, yes?

Any chances you'd pass me a copy to go over?

[covert ocean]

It means there’s apparently enough rules to not only explain the consistent findings (green geode liking all, red needing night, whatever else) but ALSO for the exceptions to what seem to be rules

Or rather what could be rules

[lost jewel]

Is there different colors for different dragons?

[covert ocean]

Such as time of day relevance

[gloomy sand]

leaning more and more toward "each new dragon (not species) has its own special crystals and timing that work for it"

[covert ocean]

That’ll be so hard to figure though oml

[heavy ridge]

Pain to code too

[maiden island]

what might help, dumb suggestion, but what if we focus 1 dragon at a time with the colors

i feel like that'd be faster then scrambling with them all at once

[heavy ridge]

Not that simple. But, kinda???
Some colors seem to ignore certain dragons

[gloomy sand]

what do you mean? weve done this.

there is more to it than COLOR = SPECIES. we have long established this

[naive otter]

for those who know. this looks red doesnt it?

[ionic trench]

I don't really want to send it out because its on my google & I would prefer to keep my email address to myself lol
Lemme see if i can fit the current info into a screenshot

[maiden island]

it didn't seem like it sorry 🤷 ~can't tell if your talking to me or not lol~

[lethal lion]

So, purple = SS
Red = FS
Blue = BS?

[gloomy sand]

sorry I'm not trying to be snippy

[gloomy sand]

that CAN be true

[covert ocean]

Yep red

[gloomy sand]

but not always

[heavy ridge]

We have a lot of SS at night data, let's try for SS? Get that time of day knuckled down?

[lethal lion]

Dangit

[naive otter]

mk if bios can alledgely help, they cannot trigger Red

[maiden island]

Alr bet, i've been focus FS & Blitz mostly but i'll start looking more into SS with what does and doesn't work with my stuff

[covert ocean]

Blitz can do cyan too (idk what blue you’re referring to), blitz can also do purple and IR can also do red

[lethal lion]

Bios can not elder though..

[covert ocean]

Also remember the system has to be compatible for future species too

[heavy ridge]

But you can share ticks with nearby dragons

[maiden island]

it's a group effort, it makes sense that the bio could be able to activate a crystal imo

[covert ocean]

And i doubt they’re gonna add more colors when new dragons arrive

[lethal lion]

But, I've been hunting for crystals during the day, so I think SS crystals are exclusieve to night time to glow

Like, I nesten BS at night hunted crystals during day time bcs me and trees have serious beef right now due to lag

[maiden island]

SS can activate green during the day though

[lethal lion]

Never seen a crystal active on my ss.

[ionic trench]

here's every entry so far
comments removed bc im using them to track something

[lethal lion]

I flew from crystal to crystal for 4 hours. You'd think I'd see atleast 1 during that time.

[gloomy sand]

this is interesting you say red triggered a blitz, ive never seen that work

[ionic trench]

That's odd
i usually get 1-4 in each set of 30

[lethal lion]

H o w.

[naive otter]

for those who triggered IR red crystals at night. we just triggered a red in the Clear daytime, 64.1% elder IR

[gloomy sand]

bruh

[lethal lion]

Like, the middle has to brightly glow red. Blue or purple right?

[ionic trench]

these are responses gathered from the community, I can't 100% verify if they're all fully accurate. more responses are needed to try to make sense of it

[lethal lion]

None of the crystals had their middle glowing or made any sound what soever

[cosmic river]

red

[naive otter]

@lethal lion this is what it looks like when triggering a crystal

[ionic trench]

wait, which one says red triggered for blitz ? the only positive for red is on an inferno

[naive otter]

yee Red, Daytime, IR. 64.1% elder

[lethal lion]

Ye, never saw that

All had like dark black spot in the middle

[naive otter]

this is inactive. and the image i sent above is one active with 1 out of 7 colors

[naive otter]

this is a red active one. the middle glows bright if you're doing something right

[lethal lion]

Oh wait, so if they have a shimmering to them they're active?

Even if the middle doesn't glow at all?

[naive otter]

if you see one of these colors... you found an active geode

[covert ocean]

not exclusive. maybe just more likely

my ss resonated a cyan one during the morning

[covert ocean]

yes

[naive otter]

you would need to then figure out how to trigger the glow

[covert ocean]

the middle willl start glowing after you one call (maybe)

[lethal lion]

Oh for fricks sake

I wasted 4 hours

😭

[gloomy sand]

oh i misread your chart

[clear pebble]

dunno if this helps but we just bursted a purple crystal and only a blitz got the tick xD

night time ^

[hasty vector]

Just got a bystander-tick as SS from a FS bursting a green crystal, it was daytime and clear weather😄

[minor hinge]

3: Under the moon you'll find yourself again

That one

[gloomy sand]

i think riddles from the past when he said there was a diff eldering system dont count toward now

unless he confirmed they still apply

because this is supposed to be a whole new system

[turbid comet]

Same

[tardy perch]

This is what I understand of the system. The crystals will glow a random color at a supposedly random time. If you find one that is glowing a color, aim your reticule at the white center of the geode and 1 call. If the WHITE part you are aiming at starts to glow, you can keep yelling at it until it bursts. What used to happen in testing is if you could activate it to bursting, you would for sure get a tick (sometimes certain dragons nearby would get a tick too). But since I'm seeing reports of people not getting it who are activating it, I need to see for myself. If it happens to me, I'll let Jao know and see if it's a bug or not.

[naive otter]

so i found a Cyan. tried all my Dragons and none of them worked. i only got it to work in daytime with shadowscale

[woven isle]

blitz can activate purple, we didn't manage to do it with SS

[naive otter]

this was at night specifically! i forgot to mention. all of them ranging from 0 to 80% Elder. hard to keep track of everything

[lethal lion]

Ah

Mnhmm...

[woven isle]

so, we just activated a blue one with an fs, then i got the tick with my blitz once it blew, this is the one on top of the waterfall close to br if that has anything to do with the case

[bright raptor]

@pliant plume

[pliant plume]

Do the crystals have to glow? or do you have to make them glow?

[heavy ridge]

They have to change colors on their own.
They'll make a rumbling noise.

Then, if it'll work, when you 1-call while aiming at it, it will start to glow.

Keep going until it explodes

[heavy ridge]

The one in the top row, second from the right, is what they look like when glowing

[naive otter]

Here's why i believe that Geodes shouldnt be too high.. inaccessible to an acid spitter unless teleported....

this is a yellow geode! and i only know ASD to trigger so far..

[heavy ridge]

Apparently someone got a bio to trigger yellow

[naive otter]

lemme attempt

correct! bio can activate yellow!

however, when i was showing people i can activate it. it changed to Red

[maiden island]

fs at night for the red

[naive otter]

but here's the issue @maiden island i have seen it activate during the day with IR too today

I have seen both day time and night time activations

[maiden island]

also i thought Blue worked for ss at night? ?

[naive otter]

i have triggered a blue with SS at night twice yesterday

[maiden island]

weird that it's not working for us rn

[tardy perch]

Yes

[naive otter]

i also got it to trigger but i think i broke it too cuz it changed colors (images above)

[tardy perch]

You didn't break it. If you start to activate a geode and then stop calling, it'll dim back down. If you let it do that too long, it'll change color

[naive otter]

mk we attempted IR during the daytime but it was cloudy. never triggered

[maiden island]

so i jsut tried the blue crystal, Iconic 6.5% female ss couldn't activate it

yet my crimson 5% female SS could

~at night btw with clear weather i believe~

[tardy perch]

Wait what? Same geode?

[maiden island]

yup

[covert ocean]

you waited too long between callls

[maiden island]

my Crim skins have been having better luck activating geodes compared to ppl without it so idk

[tardy perch]

Huh...well if that's the case, then it's not species, day time, element, OR percentage...

[covert ocean]

if you wait too long, the humming goes more quiet and if you then still don't call it'll stop resonating completely

and change color

[tardy perch]

What the hey man. This is starting to se more random than expected.

[covert ocean]

there's gotta be RNG

so like, conditions, plus some RNG

or what hannerb was saying, individual rules for individual dragons

[naive otter]

yeee ulta told me. so basically i was showing my friend that bios can trigger yellow and i learrned my mistake

[covert ocean]

not per species - per individual

[heavy ridge]

IDK man, mela was Nested Iconic grown in One Session, that sure felt like RNG too

[covert ocean]

wait, I just remembered Jao already confirmed it's not inconsistent

so RNG theory is off the table

[tardy perch]

Did he? So he said there was some sort of pattern?

[covert ocean]

then individual rules seems more likely

[naive otter]

@tardy perch

[covert ocean]

that yes thanks xD

[tardy perch]

Oooooo. Okay then. I'll keep looking then. See if I spot any sort of pattern for just myself

[latent meadow]

If he says it's not inconsistent, but here we are with all these inconsistencies, who's to say it's not currently bugged...?

[naive otter]

i dont think its bugged. we're just missing an important part of this method

[gloomy sand]

he insists there is no bug and everything is functioning as intended. so if others get a tick and you dont, theres a reason.

[covert ocean]

it's much less likely than us just not understanding the system right on day 2

especially with Jao having said multiple times over time that it works as intended yeah

[tardy perch]

Alright. Hmmm interesting.

We'll keep looking then

[sturdy flame]

I dont have the time to gather data rn but I was wondering would it be a good idea to add google docs for this? and can have people ask for permissions so not randos will go and do edits

if someone likes spreadsheets and such might be good for having the data up in a written form

[gloomy sand]

doing that

but not sharing with the class every step lol

[latent meadow]

I'm going to do this same thing when I get off tonight. Provided I can actually find a coloured crystal... They're all dark for me. Every single one.

Crimson FS female.

[coarse beacon]

yeah seems like a lot of the reports about things have pretty limited information, having a standardized form with all different possible factors on it could help information gathering for this. agree that setting up a google form or such would help to compile reports into a spreadsheet

[maiden island]

SO WE DID IT AGAIN and i had 7% elder growth and it worked for my Crim female SS but NOT my friends Iconic Female SS???

[gloomy sand]

so keep track if your friend's ss ever works with that type of crystal

[maiden island]

we are

[heavy ridge]

What's your friend's growth, and,
I hesitate to ask, what are your BQs like?

[maiden island]

some where between 6%-11% and we're both spawn dragons

[latent meadow]

There is a google form up the chat line a ways.

[latent meadow]

Oh dear, that's a factor we'd forgotten about...

[sturdy flame]

wonder if we could have it pinned

[heavy ridge]

I'm reaaaaly hoping it's not BQ

That the difference is something like, stamina, or simply "I went first"

Maybe they don't have their mutation points assigned.

[maiden island]

the Iconic tried first

then i tried and it worked after a few screms

[woven hound]

Don't tell me its skin related

[sturdy flame]

kind mods can we have this pinned (i dont wanna ping you all for attention maybe one of them will see it, i hope)

[woven hound]

I feel like skin related wouldnt make sense cause there's gonna be tons of skins in the future

[oak goblet]

whats BQ?

[naive otter]

bloodline quality

[oak goblet]

aaah, thanks

[heavy ridge]

If it's breeding related, I will actually cry.

[woven hound]

For real...

[heavy ridge]

You friend didn't happen to have been command grown, were they?

[maiden island]

uh

i know i was

[naive otter]

all my dergs are command grown. triggers just fine

however NONE of my dergs are iconic. and would be wrong to ignore iconics ability to elderr

so i dont think its based around that, it be cruel

[oak goblet]

I just found a green one that was humming for me on blitz, but not for the IR next to me. Might it be client based? edit: nevermind, it wasnt adult so thats prob why

[tardy perch]

You heard it humming and they didn't?

[oak goblet]

yeah

[cyan halo]

I definitely think some Geodes or all geodes are player specific

I had one today wich I was interacting with, in the end it didn't react to me but another player that came by asked what I am doing. I told him what I'm doing and he said he doesn't even see the geode that stood right in front of me

Maybe some have fixed locations that's definitely the case but that situation means to me that some Geodes are only for yourself

[oak goblet]

just had a magenta one explode but gave me nothing. Blitz

[gray ocean]

Blitz activated magenta at night and got the tick

[muted moat]

So I haven’t seen a single crystal glowing and I was at it for hours so idk if I’m doin sum wrong at this point 🥹

[wide canopy]

They dont glow until you scream at them

Color before glow vs color after. only the white glows

(yes im aware its diff colors bc diff screenshots)**==

[muted moat]

Even after screaming at them

They don’t glow for me

[wide canopy]

Some dont care. Some do.

It depends on time of day, species wtv. We're still trying to figure it out

[muted moat]

I saw someone earlier bring up ss working at night so I tried that with all the crystals and nothing

[wide canopy]

were they multi color or just one color

[muted moat]

Wdym?

[wide canopy]

IF ITS A SOLIDDDD COLOR
its not active.

Theyre normally a purple/blueish

[muted moat]

It was the normal colour for them I guess?

They didn’t glow or anything

[wide canopy]

Madam did u just scream at inactive geodes

[muted moat]

Idk? Cuz people are saying to scream at them to get them active

[wide canopy]

Ref to this..

If they have NO TINT then its not a active geode

[muted moat]

But going to every single one and not having any glowing for hours is odd tho?

[wide canopy]

Asura..

They have to be multi color

But anyway, whos the guy with the spreadsheet

[wide canopy]

Ref to my fs screaming at cyan

Ending convo bc offtopic

[muted moat]

It’s about eldering?

But ok ig

[tardy perch]

It sounds like you just have been unlucky in finding an colored Geode. There's over 20 spots to look, and they don't stay colored forever. They do go inert after some time

[gaunt stream]

The glows look like this

Just for reference

[tardy perch]

There's a different between a geode ready to gvie ticks, and one that isn't. They have to have a color to them before they can be 'turned on' via calls

[muted moat]

Guess I’ve just been unlucky then ig

I’ll show myself out tho

[tardy perch]

No need to do that

[cosmic slate]

You do have to aim at it then call, right?

[tardy perch]

Yes. Gotta aim at the white middle part of the geode.

[maiden island]

so uh

[tardy perch]

Treat the geode like it's your future mate XD

[maiden island]

what color is this? i literally can't tell

[naive otter]

its either inactive or white

[tardy perch]

That's...either white, or nothing at all.

It looks like nothing at all honestly

[maiden island]

it's humming

other wise i wouldn't ask

[tardy perch]

Ohhhh. White then

Very minor chance it might be Cyan but....I reeeeally can't tell.

Different angle might be better

[maiden island]

do we know anything about white?

[tardy perch]

*shrugs*

We don't know much of anything still atm XD

[maiden island]

it's humming for me but it's not humming for my friend so i'm very confused LOL

[tardy perch]

Try turning it on then?

See what happens

[maiden island]

Blitz

blitz made it glow

16% elder before blowing it

[gloomy sand]

time of day, weather, bloodline pls

[tardy perch]

...blowing...it...maybe say yelling next time, not blowing XD

[maiden island]

all my dragosn are spawn dragons

gimmie a moment

[ionic trench]

-# (adds an entry to the spreadsheet)

[gloomy sand]

same hahaha

[maiden island]

Crim, Female, 16%, Blitz, Morning, very cloudy but not raining

[gloomy sand]

the road so far

[tardy perch]

Not many have seen Cyan yet it seems

[naive otter]

i saw them yesterday

[gloomy sand]

have come across it and struggled to get them to go off

[naive otter]

and was only able to get SS to trigger during the day

[ionic trench]

just watched every species try and fail a cyan at night
not sure of other details like bloodline and such

[maiden island]

it turned red, i took to long getting the info, big sad LOL

[maiden island]

I've seen cyan loads of times but we havn't gotten it to react to any dragon, during any time, during any weather

[ionic trench]

i don't have any positive hits for cyan either

out of 4 patrols of 30 crystal so far, i've only seen 5 active >:I game dislikes me

[tardy perch]

I take it back then XD

[cosmic river]

white

[maiden island]

Gotcha

White responded to Blitz during the day so that's good to know

[cosmic river]

are you and friend on the same dragons?

regarding humming

[maiden island]

nope

i was blitz and my friend was SS

[gloomy sand]

thats weird cuz

all crystals another color have hummed for me

even if i couldnt get the tick

they rumble

[maiden island]

🤷 i dunno they just said they couldn't hear it and we were right next to it

[gloomy sand]

has anyone got a purple crystal to work for a very low or a very high prog?

[oak goblet]

the purple one i got to work earlier. Im at 2.7% eldering. Didnt actually give me anything when it exploded tho

on blitz

[gloomy sand]

[gloomy sand]

So new conundrum

A clanmate on fs 1 called at a crystal and it TURNED from green to red

I cannot post the clip because of cursing

[wide canopy]

Fs worked again for red at night

[gloomy sand]

anyone else seen this happen?

[wide canopy]

I can test it

[wide canopy]

Waiter, cords please!

[covert ocean]

I have seen geodes change color on media branch, though rarely. but not upon interaction with it, just on their own

[oak goblet]

its the one on the wall in the Arch cave

[velvet spire]

Are the color of the crystal random or permanent to that crystal?

[ionic trench]

this crystal nonsense is starting to seriously get on my nerves, but not because we don't know why they react when they do.

It's because in 6 rounds (180 crystals over 3 hours) I have found a grand total of 6 crystals that were colored/humming at all and an entire 1 crystal that I could activate for a whopping 1.3% progress.

In the mushroom days I could be a quarter to elder on my FS in the same time.

[naive otter]

cant get yellow to trigger at night to anything

not even bio

[gloomy sand]

it happened again - a green was activated by a blitz, he 1 called one time then stopped, and it swapped to dark blue

[covert ocean]

how long did he stop for?

if you wait too long after calling, it stops resonating and changes color

[gloomy sand]

like stopped period. 1 called once then just no more.

ahhh

[covert ocean]

think it took about 10-15 seconds? dont recall exactly

but you can fail them if you don't keep calling

[gloomy sand]

[covert ocean]

you could technically use it to influence/change their color, only.. if it's already working for you there's not much reason to do that xD

probably more a pvp mechanic - can't get distracted or hide and then come back

[gloomy sand]

ye its good

we didnt want it to be campable

[wide canopy]

Green worked for fs at day

[muted moat]

so finally found one, was purple

[heavy ridge]

If you're still in game with Might Be Shrooms, tell them I love their name 💖

[runic garnet]

[runic garnet]

Could be coincidence but of all colors to change to, red which works for fs as far as I've heard sort of makes it seem unlikely that it is

[wide canopy]

This roach ignored
ss/fs/blitz/bio
-# bio was for a joke

Noon*

And ignored IR

[gray ocean]

ASD activated BLUE crystal at Morning time , clear weather, 40% elder

[heavy ridge]

A awful, horrid thought just occurred to me.

So we've had enough evidence to suggest day/night really matters, that sometimes weather looks to interfere.

What if it's not day/night/weather, but a measure of ambient light. What if the 'this system appears to work, except these two examples' is because that particular crystal was in the shade, or direct sunlight, and it was juuuust enough to mean that dragon couldn't activate it.

Only way I can think to prove/disprove this, is to have someone try crystals, and if it doesn't resonate, have a glowing bio stand next to it and try again. Iff we find a horrid edge case where that works, I might cry, but it would give near definitive proof of it being light level dependant.

Flame cloaked IR might do it too

[sweet forum]

ye i only got that type to work at this time (pic below) with rain, for ss. We tried the crystal with every dragon but bio, during the day, didnt work, admin made it that time, and there was rain and it worked for an ss and give an extra tick to a nearby blitz

[wide canopy]

I have a red one active

I can do that rn

Cyan has ignored ss ir and blitz

Red ignoring ss

Red accepted ir unflamed

Cyan is ignoring everyone who has gotten ticks

[wide canopy]

Night

[ionic trench]

So i'm a blitz and i found a green crystal right as the moon was setting
menu says "night", no reaction from crystal
I waited and the very instant the ingame time tracker said "dawn" it started glowing when i roared

so that's about as much of a confirmation as i can get

[gaunt stream]

So green is any time of day or night depending on the dragon

I wonder if the other colors have specific time frames

[last minnow]

cyan might, havent gotten one to trigger at night before, im sitting infront of one rn and watched an ir, blitz, and ss try it

ive gotten dark blues to work at night though

on ss

[last minnow]

im only doubting this statement cus theres caves that never have light touch where the crystals are and the crystals can still be activated

[naive otter]

every single dragon attempting a magenta! no luck

time of Day: Dusk
Weather: Clearr

[ionic trench]

I'm inclined to say that this isn't the case; there's no real visible light difference in the change between "night" and "dawn", but it did make the crystal start working (green on blitz)

[fringe badge]

Had a magenta that wouldnt glow til it was Dawn

[naive otter]

hai

[fringe badge]

haiii

[gaunt stream]

That wouldn't work because of the cave crystals, one is tucked in a shady cave corner

So if it was dependent on that it would never light up...

[wide canopy]

Dawn

[heavy ridge]

Some of the colors only work in the darkest conditions, on rainy nights.

Shrimp's argument is convincing however.

[fringe badge]

bio glowing near a yellow did nothing til bio called it

[gaunt stream]

[heavy ridge]

Bios have been known to activate yellows.

[heavy ridge]

So if ambient light levels was the case, (and shrimp's is a valid argument as to, probably not, ||unless it was counted from time of day, rather then a light sensor placed on the crystal, but at that point im splitting hairs and disproving my own theory||) we'd see people activating cyan (only activation I could find, being on a rainy night) at a higher rate underground, while green (being mostly midday, with some dusks) or yellow (never at night, almost always with bios) would be easier in direct sunlight.

this theory is likely disproven. I am stating this as an explanation of logic

[wide canopy]

Morning

[gloomy sand]

bio set of yellow

but no one got tick

i had the bio spray us all xD

didnt matter

[wide canopy]

Ignored morning

[gloomy sand]

one of our SS got red to go off at every time of day, every weather, and every part of the map

no one else could make those reds work

[heavy ridge]

If there is two kinds of red, I'll scream.

[heavy ridge]

Were those reds in any particular location that would make them notable?
On top of things? Beside or under them?

[gloomy sand]

river mouth waterfall, the shallow garage at big rock, on top of the big cave at big rock, elder forest

[last minnow]

ive tried red on my ss and nothing has happened

[heavy ridge]

Do you know if the SS was at a higher/lower Elder Growth to everyone else?

Had they been participating longer, or only just joined in?

[gloomy sand]

60 prog

[gloomy sand]

could you elaborate?

[gaunt stream]

No, you're good and it's valid

[heavy ridge]

Was trying to softball if the rest of the group had higher/lower, if you didnt have the exact prog, please disregard

[heavy ridge]

XD I'll accept valid, but turns out it wasn't sound /j

[gaunt stream]

[fringe badge]

MAGENTA : We have only gotten it to pop at Dawn with BS

RED : We just got it to pop at night ONLY with FS and IR

I think time of day has smthn to do with it for sure

Ended up getting a whole server in on testing

[last minnow]

Dark blue worked on ss at night but not in the day

[velvet spire]

Are y’all in sanctuary or MM?

[last minnow]

sanctuary

[fringe badge]

I'm on Scaleworx

[velvet spire]

Oh nice, I been flying to crystals and reading this to see if I get lucky with a crystal but no nothing.

[fringe badge]

Definitely learning its way more beneficial if everyone who's after elder works together on it

[velvet spire]

I heard there was a map here with all the locations? Idk if it’s true

[gaunt stream]

https://discord.com/channels/576933363672285186/1286563504114892810

[naive otter]

almost whole. im still trying to replace my lost leum bio 🤣 then i'll join! good luck either way!

[fringe badge]

YELLOW pops during "Morning" but no one gets ticks from them. We had every flavor of dragon and only bio could activate it

[wide canopy]

No response
morning
@pearl remnant alerted me of it

[fringe badge]

Magenta triggers specifically at dawn

[white path]

no response, its raining

[fringe badge]

get a bio near it?

[naive otter]

wait @fringe badge next yellow please try dusk with ASD? i had gotten an yellow with ASD at dusk before

[fringe badge]

Yesm

[white path]

it stopped glowing

[naive otter]

this was yesterday i got the trigger with @chilly iris i beleive if i pinged right person

[pearl remnant]

Got an elder tick off a crystal already, a green for blitz

[heavy ridge]

I've been staring at pearls all day.
Im flipping stupid.

Corporate wants you to tell us the difference between these two images

It's a flipping color coded system

Grey/white, green, blue, purple magenta, yellow, red

And cyan, I guess

[robust lynx]

What dragon goes to each color?

[heavy ridge]

That's the cool thing, son, it doesn't

sort of

[fringe badge]

ASD at dusk failed

BIO only for yellow at dusk

[naive otter]

it cant be Elder, keep in mind. it must be adult

[last minnow]

its looking like any dragon can get x color, but at specific times

[robust lynx]

Oh ok

[naive otter]

wha. last time i couldnt

[last minnow]

whats up with the AOE thing? how come it only sometimes works

[ionic trench]

(confused staring)
This.. complicates things..

[naive otter]

this was at Dusk i believe but it might have actually been night instead

complications are at hand!?

[ionic trench]

i've never had cyan react to blitz
evening / partly cloudy / 16.0% eldered , if anyone needs it

[naive otter]

i couldnt even do that?!

i need more hints honestly than it being "its consistent if you know the factor it requires"

im now confused

[fringe badge]

Magenta : Pops at Dawn specifically ??
Red : Night, IR and FS tick
Yellow : Still don't friggin know
Green : Seems to be a free call
Cyan: ?

[last minnow]

the different times thing would make it "consistent"

as that would be the common factor in them all

[ionic trench]

I've only had magenta work at "night" never "dawn"

[naive otter]

i've also only had magenta work at night, never dawn

[fringe badge]

we popped it twice at dawn

[last minnow]

green didnt activate in the day for my ss, 40%+ elder

[naive otter]

next time im going to double check every time of day i trigger a geode.

[fringe badge]

same

[last minnow]

ive been on for a while and havent gotten a single geode today😭

[gloomy sand]

ss got dark blue to go off all the way but NO ONE got the tick

idk if the range on the explosion is too small but we couldnt get any closer to the dang thing

but the fact was we activated it...

[heavy ridge]

So I'm starting to smell an activation strength/attunement system.

[last minnow]

which is odd, ive gotten dark blue to have the AOE effect on another ss near me

[heavy ridge]

That's the second "we set it off, but no one ticked" in the last, like half hour.
There's been more then a few some of the groups

[fringe badge]

Now that I think about it idk when I've activated a green but I had light from daytime each time

[gloomy sand]

the only thing I can think is not close enough?

[heavy ridge]

Hopefully, if only so the system is less complicated.

[gloomy sand]

why should you be able to set it off but not get a tick

[fringe badge]

That's what I'm wondering

[last minnow]

fr

same question i have for bios

[heavy ridge]

As a comparison, why should you have been able to eat an elder shroom as juvenile, or start the process and fail.

There's a almost there, but youre doing it wrong happening here, I think.

[white path]

also didn't respond

[latent meadow]

This is honestly my largest complaint...

[gloomy sand]

youd think we all in range

[white path]

also didn't respond to a ss at 1%

[ionic trench]

i think the blast actually has to touch your dragon or get very close to work
i ran into that earlier too

[heavy ridge]

... I think there might be a potency system.

Like pearl quality, how the pearl quality systen is doubled up with a rarity system.

I think it's the same "RPG rarity" color set (+cyan) that Jao really likes to use

I think we can set them off, even if we're not the right growth/dragon for it.

I think there's a potency/quality system.

[last minnow]

there have been countless times where ive stood directly next to someone where they got a tick and i didnt

both of us were ss

[ionic trench]

Huh odd

[last minnow]

very

[ionic trench]

i'm still trying to wrap my head around the cyan
I've got 13 negatives for it and now 1 activation and I can't figure out why that one worked

[latent meadow]

Was there a single factor that set it apart from the negatives?

[heavy ridge]

I have been staring at pearls all day and I am loosing it

But I think there's a link. Between why some colors are so much more difficult to set off, and why we can set some off and not get ticks.

[fringe badge]

I remain convinced time of day is a factor to though

[heavy ridge]

Agreed

[fringe badge]

There has to be reason they won't pop until a certain time

[ionic trench]

nope; not that i know of
I've tried it during partly-cloudy daylight with the same dragon, and lots of other conditions
but nothing stands out as being special, other than i had a few more % with this particular cyan than the previous ones

[latent meadow]

Hmm...

[fringe badge]

The other option is that I'm so socially burnt from working with everyone on the server for like..... 8 hours straight? And I've lost it

[heavy ridge]

What percent were you when cyan wasn't working last v what percent now

[heavy ridge]

Shrimp had a case earlier, where it wasn't working, but the moment the t.o.d. flipped over it worked

[white path]

okay this light blue crystal at arch isn't responding to any dragon

[ionic trench]

13.3 ish % on the previous cyan, 16% on the one that worked

[last minnow]

cyan didnt work for my ss at night, 47%

[white path]

my asd isn't making it respond (30% elder)

[heavy ridge]

Nanner had a case earlier, that a bunch of FSs and IRs couldn't proc reds, but an SS at 60 could.

[fringe badge]

So im not losing my marbles

[white path]

wheres that one form people are filling out?

[ionic trench]

oh boy I love flying into redwood trees and dropping to 14fps

[white path]

with all reports of what does n doesnt work

[white path]

i love flying into redwoods and get hit with a foggy area

[ionic trench]

try doing it with a leum during rain! completely invisible

[white path]

fun!

[last minnow]

gotta love the redwoods flashbang

[ionic trench]

my form is here
#1209681807746801724 message

currently tracking species/time/activation/color only

[heavy ridge]

I think each dragon has a progression.

I think there's a color-percent range progression.

I think there's a time of day to color limitation/progression.

does anyone have cases of colors and times where they did work, but now do not

[last minnow]

if you dont mind, imma be submitting like 3 or so different forms on ss lol

[ionic trench]

please do! the more info the better

[heavy ridge]

Going to start pulling out a Caesarian Cypher and mapping out times and dragons.

[gloomy sand]

nope - if person A got crystal B to activate once, it has always worked for them as long as the time and weather lined up

[last minnow]

im putting everything ik in the form from what i witnessed ingame and from what ive done

[gloomy sand]

but the colors are matching to specific people, not dragons. red works for some fs, not for others, for example

[ionic trench]

what if it's something ridiculous like "steam ID divisible by 7, then blue works. if divisible by 11, then red works"
/hj

[last minnow]

thats too much for an elder system if that even was to be considered

[heavy ridge]

Thank you for your negation-proofs. I'm attempting to see if someone can prove a positive, seeing as we can't disprove a negative with any certainty.

[ionic trench]

it's downright evil (hence mostly a joke) but I do know of one game that did something similar for an easter egg lol

[last minnow]

watch there be that one person who cant do it just cus of their steam id

[ionic trench]

prime number? no eldering for you!

[white path]

i will say this tho: i know for sure the same crystal wont repond to the same dragon twice

[ionic trench]

what do you mean?

[white path]

went to arch as a ss

saw a cyan crystal

first time it exploded n gave me a tick

2nd time, it didn't

same color, same crystal

it didn't respond to me anymore

[last minnow]

yea but the time changed

[white path]

same time of day

just later

[heavy ridge]

You have the same color/time/dragon, on the same rock.

And it didn't work the second time?

[white path]

yes'

[last minnow]

then thats not the same time of day if its later

[white path]

it may be a one per rock situation

[white path]

still morning

just not that same morning

[last minnow]

did it still say morning?

[white path]

yeah

[last minnow]

hm

now thats weird

[white path]

it did a full day night cycle

[last minnow]

unless its the elder % thing

cus you did change %

[white path]

but why would it not respond if i had a higher %

[ionic trench]

I can't see that being it, mostly because there's only so many rocks on the map
1.3% per geode x 32 ish geodes is only 41.6% growth
if each geode only worked once you wouldn't be even able to get halfway with them

[heavy ridge]

But we have a positive case. snickerdoodles

[ionic trench]

the plot thickens.. hmm

[white path]

aren't there like

30 rocks?

[last minnow]

32 i think

[heavy ridge]

32 rocks. 7 colors.

[white path]

yeah

maybe i have to catch the rock with a different color

but it didn't respond to the same color a 2nd time

[last minnow]

i wish i was one of those people who could do cords with ease

[ionic trench]

I have 30 in my loops, and i know of one more but i don't go there because ew, ravine

[last minnow]

cus i can only do like 10 out of those 30 in my loop

[wide canopy]

Oine in ravine

[wide canopy]

1 per snowy

[ionic trench]

yeah ravine is the one i avoid

i have a set path i take and i do a loop in 25-35 minutes on average, with one stop in the same location each loop for food/water

[wide canopy]

I hate that map so much, its beyond innaccurate lol

[ionic trench]

this is how i eldered in 3 days on legacy lol
the ability to memorize terrain is epic

[heavy ridge]

Mood. But it's the one that people put dots on first, so this is the one we get

[gaunt stream]

The Ravine one is in the biggest open area

So it's not too bad

[ionic trench]

yeah it's just far from the others and over a mountain; faster to skip it

[heavy ridge]

Weasel was at least kind enough to put the cords on the dots

[last minnow]

memorizing terrain is fine for me, but if ive never been and i have to use cords ill end up going in circles

[gaunt stream]

Fair, it is kinda randon

[ionic trench]

-# i dont know how to say this without coming off snarky but it's a genuine question,
what is it about coords that people struggle with?

[last minnow]

i start going in circles like ants that got lost

[gaunt stream]

Once we confirm that 32 is the total, final number of crystals I'm going to make a TikTok Elder Crystals series where I show exactly where each Crystal is

[heavy ridge]

I assume the bridge between numbers equaling a direction.

[last minnow]

i avoid tiktok at all costs so ig i wont be seeing it lol

[gaunt stream]

People can save videos and people without TikTok can see them if the saves are posted~

Also, if you grew up playing Minecraft and dealt with those coordinates DoD Coordinates should be easy peasy

Just saying

[heavy ridge]

We've wandered off topic.

Can each dragon proc at least 3 colors?

[ionic trench]

I've gotten green and magenta fairly consistently under the right conditions, and one weirdo cyan, on blitz

[last minnow]

see thats where im confused as to how idk how to do coords, ive been playing mc for over a decade and still cant do coords properly

but im 80% sure i keep messing up due to my dyslexia

[gaunt stream]

It's very simple, but for the sake of staying on topic feel free to DM me so these guys can keep working

[last minnow]

im not sure, what info do we have so far?

[heavy ridge]

Emotionally.
I feel the need to collate that data and find answers.
Realistically, it's 130am for me. And I need to make an hour's drive home.
We need a spreadsheet, and someone to go through and start taking tallies.

[gaunt stream]

Get some sleep, Gremlin

[heavy ridge]

No. I must math /j

[ionic trench]

do you guys think jao is sitting at his computer like this, watching us all run around like headless chickens trying to figure it out

https://tenor.com/view/the-grinch-evil-smile-creepy-smile-gif-7618321

[gaunt stream]

Probably

[heavy ridge]

I keep seeing Admins slide in and out with data for us, and I keep thinking, "are you going to bring this up at the staff meeting this week?"

[ionic trench]

this is magenta right? or blue?

very hard to see in this cave

[gaunt stream]

squints

[last minnow]

looks like the dark blue

[heavy ridge]

But as someone who has run TTRPG tables, yes. Yes we do do that when people get close to solving our puzzles, it's exhilarating.

But also, Ive been part of a table that got stumped by the same door puzzle, 4 times

[gaunt stream]

I see a purple tint

So magenta?

[ionic trench]

i think it's magenta
right then, another blitz/magenta/night active

[heavy ridge]

This any help?

[last minnow]

dark blue

magenta is brighter

[ionic trench]

mmghgh ill keep it as magenta but notate it might be blue

[heavy ridge]

-# gonna make that pic my lockscreen

[last minnow]

looks very blue to me

[ionic trench]

at some angles it looked more purple and others more blue so idk

[heavy ridge]

[ionic trench]

-# my lockscreen is also dod but im not sure i can share it here wheeze

has anyone seen the one in the pond below the tall tree in EF actually activate
that's the only one i can't remember ever being anything but dormant

[last minnow]

yea

i saw it once as red during the night and it activated for fs

[naive otter]

dark blue, magenta is brighter even in darker lighting

[last minnow]

^

[ionic trench]

alr ill swap it to blue

if it's blue, then now i have blitz suddenly being able to activate blue when it couldnt previously

which further complicates things

[last minnow]

even if it seems complex, at least its not the other system from 1.0

we're just barely getting started

[ionic trench]

i'm still not entirely convinced there actually was an active system in 1.0
"grow passively and then die and grow faster" does not count as active

oh, i'm also tracking how many active crystals i find on each loop and how many of those i can activate

just for kicks

[last minnow]

yeaa im not convinced either, how did nobody ever figure it out lol

[ionic trench]

i currently have a rate of 1.5/30 crystals being active on any given run and a 23.5% chance that i could activate one of them
not very encouraging numbers tbh lol

[last minnow]

theres always at least 1 crystal active

[ionic trench]

yes, but i'm only doing the ones that i find on my loops

[last minnow]

out of my loop of like 14 for my loop, 90% of the time its either empty, or a crystal i cant activate

[ionic trench]

just to see what the chances are any given crystal will be active when i visit it, based on my route/speed

[gaunt stream]

from what someone said a while ago, multiple crystals can be active, and the unicorn is when they're all active (unicorn being highly unlikely/unheard of)

[wispy gale]

id rather have the shrooms back but randomly spawn anywhere on the map at any time instead...

[last minnow]

personally i dont believe thats possible, its most likely limited to around 2 or 3

[last minnow]

those sucked cus there would still be that random timeframe where one wouldnt spawn

with like 5 others crowding it

at least this one is AOE

or supposed to be at times

[ionic trench]

i'd assume theyre possible to activate all at the same time, just highly statistically improbable. like winning a lottery ticket

[wispy gale]

exactly.. thats the point

completely random

[last minnow]

in a way its still "random"

[wispy gale]

with the crystals? not really...

its like a rare chance to even get them to work in the first place...

and id rather not just sit there and scream at rocks..

[last minnow]

different preferences ig lol

[smoky hatch]

That's more PvE issue (as far as dragons hounding it). I think crystals are healthier for a PvE standpoint (multiple dragons getting elder tics at once) but it's a ? on how it'll impact PvP.

[wispy gale]

at least with the shrooming system, there as an actual working system, that doesn't put you at compromised (speaking pvp wise) to actually have to learn to sneak around and not scream and bring attention to yourself, the crystal's is more built for pve ngl

[last minnow]

i could see it working on pvp if it muted your constant spam calling in the crystal areas

[wispy gale]

like it COULD work for pvp but it doesn't with how it is rn

[latent meadow]

I know exactly how it'll impact PvP. The largest clans will stake claims to an active rock, you'll have twenty dragons surrounding one rock and killing anyone who comes near it, and the strong clans will only get stronger.

[last minnow]

clans will be clans

[smoky hatch]

I literally have a rant about this HAHA. It's a high risk, high reward thing. But it's just as campable if you know what you're doing. It's certainly a lot more risky to achieve than the former system.

[ionic trench]

Crystals aren't really better imho

• there's a set number of them
• they are in set locations
• they can deactivate, so there's only a small window during which they're active
• they're not even guaranteed to be the color you need

At the very least, on an empty server you had a decent chance of getting a few shrooms
i've gotten 4 activate-able crystals in 5.5 hours; less than 1 per hour.
With shrooms I was promised 2 shrooms an hour bare minimum, and usually got 2-5 more each run (on SS)

[latent meadow]

I've never encountered an active crystal.

Over two hours last night, flying around.

[wispy gale]

can't forget that there's crystals that are meant for other dragons that aren't in the game, so the ones that are active might not even be able to BE Activated in the first place

[last minnow]

i feel like the color spawns should be upped for the crystals, ive flown around for HOURS and the only ones i found i couldnt activate in the daytime

[smoky hatch]

NGL you can still subvert this. Additionally, there's enough scattering of crystals (there seems to be at least 1 crystal in every major territory) that things mmmaaay be able for smaller groups to grab, but it's hard to say. We don't have an exact picture on the system yet.

[last minnow]

never heard of that existing, where was that said? /gen

[ionic trench]

that's what i meant; on the dragon you want you can't always activate the crystals even if they're "ready"
with mushrooms you could at least eat a different one to free up space

[latent meadow]

Didn't the FS shrooms come out before the FS itself? lol

[wispy gale]

they came out together

because ravine was completely dead zone until fs released

well semi dead zone

you could fall through the map at the bottom lol

[latent meadow]

Oh yeah. lol I could've sworn a shroom came out before its matching dragon at some point... I might be gaslighting myself. lol

[last minnow]

i wish for the ones that no dragons can get during whatever time it was found, it can be destroyed in some way

[latent meadow]

Or deactivated.

[naive otter]

gastlighting yourself, when shrooms became a thing it was first ASD and SS the only ones in the game. then FS came which added their shroom type

[gaunt stream]

The thing is no one can "steal" the crystals from you like they can mushies, so no thank you

[last minnow]

there have been too many times where we would have a good chunk of sanctuary on a crystal with not a single person activating it

[last minnow]

yea, im happy about this

[latent meadow]

Deviljho ate its own tail, I swear! lol

[wispy gale]

well just don't get the shroom stolen from you, be faster

[last minnow]

i did get really good at doing the mush, but it didnt feel good stealing from the smaller dragons around me lol

[naive otter]

gasp

[dense current]

i literally refued to elder on legacy outside of us3 because someone could steal a mushie from you xD i much prefer the crystals

[wispy gale]

so ig camping crystals is better and you are now having to scream your head off while a asd bites ur butt

100% better

[last minnow]

just dont be where an asd can get you ig

[wispy gale]

almost all the crystals are accessable where asd's can reach or spit on you

[latent meadow]

I come from PvE only, but I do sympathize with how much of a death sentence this is on PvP servers.

The whole "it's supposed to be difficult" argument only goes so far when you're forced to join a mega clan with this mechanic.

Anyway, gonna drive home. See if I can get on Sanctuary and actually FIND an active crystal this time...

[ionic trench]

so now cyan does not work on my blitz
overcast night
interesting

[naive otter]

new crystals opinon when it comes to player basis
Risk getting called out = PVP
Bring community together = Hopefully PVP and it happens on PVE

[wispy gale]

like the crystals CAN WORK for both the pve and the pvp community. Just it needs some type of change where you don't scream your head off, and possibly other mechanics other than just passive ticks and praying at a rock to give you a elder tick

[gaunt stream]

It's not always that simple~

[wispy gale]

no but its still fcfs, and its not always going to be fair no matter what, thats the point of the challenge to get an elder after all

its not meant to be spoon fed to you

[gaunt stream]

Never said it was

[smoky hatch]

As stated prior: I think the crystals are much healthier for PvE players, but I think shrooms were healthier for PvP.

It was much easier to steal shrooms from under someone's nose as a PvPer, which greatly benefits smaller clans. The large issue was ravine, which was the ONLY source of FS shrooms and could easily be locked down by large clans. And- of course, shrooms were bogged down by a myriad of PvErs trying to eat them at once.

We'll see how things pan out in the future though. This certainly might not be the end of the elder system being tweaked. I'm certainly fond of something between crystals and shrooms (or a harmonious implementation of both) but c'est la vie

[latent meadow]

Overall opinion from me, personally:

1.) There is no survival game in existence where standing still and broadcasting your position while focus-locked is a good idea.
2.) The crystals are indeed very beautiful, even if the colour differences are a little too subtle for some people.
3.) Having permanently visible assets with fixed locations and random activations is pretty alright.
4.) While still early and we're learning what the system is, the more we learn about it the more convoluted the actual activation system seems to get.
5.) ...But they are very pretty.

Anyway, now I'm gonna drive. Got an hour and a half before I'm home. lol

[compact lava]

I think the broadcast risk is exactly the point

[smoky hatch]

Be safe!

[gaunt stream]

People can get around the broadcasting bit by getting on when fewer people are present, since it'll be a lot harder to catch them

[smoky hatch]

Yes, but this is very detrimental for people in specific timezones. So it shouldn't be held as a solution.

[latent meadow]

It'll encourage people to host their own servers, for certain........

[gaunt stream]

It depends on how determined people are to elder in PvP shrug

[smoky hatch]

E x t r e m e l y.

[wispy gale]

its literally the main goal to get too...

its the ONLY this that we have rn other than upstatting xD

and maybe fighting

thats it

not much

[gaunt stream]

I knew a kid back in Legacy who eldered his 3 dragons in 3 days because he never slept

[ionic trench]

i've done that

[gaunt stream]

That's how determined people can be

[smoky hatch]

We're well aware.

[compact lava]

I respect them. But I like my beauty sleep too much

[ionic trench]

I just don't understand making eldering such a large part of upstatting and then also making it so slow
like to get anywhere with upstatting you need elders, and you need to elder over and over again.

[smoky hatch]

There are going to be outliers who kinda "break" the system by merely existing / tryharding, but that's an edge case that can only be tempered so much without making it nigh impossible for the average player to work within the system.

[smoky hatch]

90% sure it's to prevent endgame megaclan PvP elder floods (ala the end days of us-1)

(which to be fair that was fun as hell but certainly detrimental to newer players)

[last minnow]

i wouldnt say you need them, just would make it easier with elders

people already have 0e blitz

one exists with a b somewhere

[compact lava]

One thing I worry about (now call my conspiracist) but I really hope there is a logic behind it. not that its ranom now, then they add a logic to it.

As in creating false engagement by making us believe there is a logic only for it to be random

[last minnow]

so far it seems time based

[gaunt stream]

I mean, there's definitely some kind of pattern

Time, and in some cases weather

[ionic trench]

im thinking there's several different checks
once they're figured out it'll be like "oh" but right now.. ugh

[compact lava]

question, on what server are you guys. cause I have found 5 glowing crystals in two day on a not full server and 1 boomed

[gaunt stream]

I have my own private server

[ionic trench]

empty server

[gaunt stream]

(I'm not online right now though, just at work)

[compact lava]

what is your glowing rate? every hours?

[ionic trench]

18 crystals out of 360 colored/ready
4 of those 18 boomed
so 1.1% chance of any crystal booming, and 22.2% chance of a "ready" crystal booming

that's over 6 hours

[compact lava]

it just kills me that a rock that glows is rare but on top of that it most likely will not work. its more infuriating than shrooms... at least when you found the shroom you got you tick

dont get me wrong, I prefer the active way to interact with crystals

[latent meadow]

And percentage chance of getting a tick off those booms? (I stopped for fuel. lol)

[compact lava]

but the odds... yikes

[ionic trench]

every boom i've done alone, and i've gotten a tick from
had one exception but it was because i wasn't in range, which i'm excluding from my numbers because it was not intended function of the crystal

[wide canopy]

ALRIGHT IM SAYING IT

add mushrooms and crystals just make mushrooms like 5per species around the entire map and spawn every 2hr

But yea i think its all color coded and majorly time coded so far

And why is yellow able to be turned on by a bio ladies??

[ionic trench]

just for fun, here's the color distributions i've been getting
white is #ref because i've found zero since i started counting

[velvet spire]

Who’s hunting crystals in sanctuary at the moment?

[compact lava]

I think just making the glow more frequent would greatly help

[wide canopy]

Greatly but it would be a good combo

[last minnow]

i logged off for the night, spent 6 total hours and didnt find one that worked on my ss

[compact lava]

just because the shrooms had an hour long timer doesnt mean everything in the future has to be an hour long. 30 minutes is just fine

[wide canopy]

Same applies for me but 3 worked for my ss

Red
Cyan
Cyan

[compact lava]

another solution I've thought of. Always at least 1 crystal glowing at all time

[wide canopy]

campable

[compact lava]

just have to find it, on a busy server. challenging enough

[wide canopy]

Ima vanish from this convo. Gotta sleep ill find more tmr

[compact lava]

They already are arent they?

[wide canopy]

NOPE

Also you can 1call, bite to cancel call and repeat for no nouse

Or spam 1 for noise bug

;)

Not campable, just annoying unless ur weird and check br and arch

-# dont reply or ping me now please

[ionic trench]

lol what if instead you could trade in pearls for elder percentage
rarer pearls = more %

[compact lava]

not a bad idea

good luck on a squishy blitz though. killing a snapper is no joke

[ionic trench]

pvp might even like that
loot pearls off your enemies and cash them in for elder points
could even share them
.. might make the megaclan thing worse
idk i dont pvp much

[last minnow]

it 100% would make the megaclan worse

[compact lava]

megaclan sound like street gangs... I imagine a clanless baby being recruted

[ionic trench]

yaaaay another crystal i cant use

also don't text and fly. I just smacked snootfirst into snowy

[compact lava]

we all say that. we do it anyways

[gaunt stream]

Or people might trade rare pearls to use crystals in Clan territories

[smoky hatch]

It's certainly interesting making the transition from baby clan member to megaclan member...

[compact lava]

the chat?

[smoky hatch]

?

[compact lava]

whats the differenceé? the chat is more busy?

i have no idea how megaclans work

[smoky hatch]

Oh no. It's entirely politics and how safe you feel. Probably shouldn't get too off topic, but tl;dr as a small clan you're constantly trying to squirrel away and nest wherever you can (it's never safe), mid size clan you start making territory claims and try to make alliances to keep safe, and megaclans have a solid claim on territory (usually) and rally to fight and push back if their dragons are killed.

[ionic trench]

yay activeatable crystal!

[smoky hatch]

I made this whole stepwise transition personally, so, kinda a weird perspective to have.

[gaunt stream]

Just an FYI 2x growth applies to the crystals as well. You get twice as much Elder percentage from it

[tranquil cobalt]

Just a thought...but is it possible that each server has its own geode code? So colours for one server might work for one set of dragons, but it's changed for a different server? I think it would work if each server had its own sort of 'seed' that pushed the geode order around.

[ionic trench]

The matter complicates again
I just found a green during the day on my blitz, which has always activated without fail
but now it is Not Doing That

I did just receive my 25% point, so maybe the growth percentage does influence it?

[covert ocean]

I also had a blitz before that couldn’t resonate green geodes anymore at 18%. A low % IR did both no problem

I still think growth % is a factor. But it might not be the same boundaries for everyone, maybe individual dependent like hannerb suggested before

[woven isle]

We triggered yellow with IR yesterday

[woven isle]

If u activate it and wait too long it will change color

[lucid heath]

how do you activate the crystals?

[ionic trench]

aim the reticle at the white/open part and 1call

if it starts glowing, keep at it

if it doesn't, then you're outta luck

guys it got even worse

cyan on blitz during the rain, morning, 26.7% growth

[covert ocean]

Is that worse?

I also had Blitz resonate 2 cyans on media branch, at like 18 and 20%. During the day

2 different times during daytime actually so it’s probably not as specific as to what part of the day it should be

If that’s a thing

[ionic trench]

at this point i've got no idea

every time it starts looking like a pattern something disrupts it

like daytime greens suddenly not working anymore :I

[covert ocean]

Did cyans ignore your blitz when it was lower percentage?

OH

That’s good actually

[ionic trench]

yeah

[covert ocean]

Very good

Because I experienced the exact same before the update

Greens worked for blitz. Then at like 18% they didn’t anymore (those same geodes worked for an IR so it was the right conditions for the geode but not for my blitz)

Immediately after I found 2 cyan during daytime that worked

Your blitz is following the same pattern as mine did then

This is good

It means there likely is a sort of sequence based on elder %. It might be blitz specific, or maybe a possible pattern for blitzes

Like if you’re a blitz there’s a few different sequences you can get and green -> cyan is one of them

[latent meadow]

Okaaaaayyy... I got home, tried to connect to Sanctuary (83/100), it goes to the loading image, and then just... Exits to menu. No warning, no error message, just... Boop. Maybe I'm not going to be elder testing tonight...

[ionic trench]

hmm could be
so day is green and night is magenta
and then i'm getting cyan at day, no luck with night yet

[latent meadow]

Nope, not connecting to any server... Sorry guys, can't contribute to testing tonight. Game mysteriously won't run for me. :/

[ionic trench]

One thing i've noticed that I find interesting is that the % of ready crystals that I can trigger is inching closer and closer to 25%

could be somethin
could be nothin
¯_(ツ)_/¯

got another cyan !

[latent meadow]

So, I can connect to unofficial servers, at least... Problem is, now I have to grow something from scratch. lol

[covert ocean]

That checks out perfectly with my blitz. Green at day, then cyan at day. Magenta at night (only with auroras)

Might be a 2nd nighttime one too? But this was all I got

[latent meadow]

I'm growing SS on an unofficial server, hopefully I'll be able to get somewhere with this... There's a full elder IR here, but it's an admin, so I'm unsure if it was a command or not.

[brittle vortex]

@latent meadow There is no command to elder

[latent meadow]

Hmm... Guess they found a way, then. I'm hearing a lot of deep booms that don't sound like plasma shots, so I guess they've got it figured out here. I just don't think that one speaks english, so I can't ask. >_>;

[gaunt stream]

Only on Legacy

[brittle vortex]

@gaunt stream On legacy have elder command?

[gaunt stream]

Yep

The Dev commands were unlocked for admins right before the 1.0 update

[brittle vortex]

Ah ok, I'll just play the new one ^^

[gaunt stream]

Yeah, Elder grinding is fun though

Especially with these crystals, you get to look at a shiny rock and watch it emit cool effects in the process if you get the right one

[latent meadow]

At the right time. lol

[gaunt stream]

[latent meadow]

My first time seeing anything of a different colour... It's humming, and I'm not even adult yet. lol

[gaunt stream]

Once you reach adult try to activate it if it's still glowing

Each time you 1 call them after successful activation the humming grows louder

[latent meadow]

Is it actually glowing, though...? Doesthe colour being present count as glowing?

[silver helm]

yes its glowing

do we know yet if the color matters depending on what dragon you are playing?

[latent meadow]

I'm playing SS, so we'll see.

[pearl remnant]

Ik blitz has worked for green

[latent meadow]

So someone is coming by and trying with their SS and their FS. I don't see anything happening yet.

Now they're trying IR.

Nothing. Daylight, btw.

Confirmed! Green crystal worked for my SS, morning, rain.

If location matters, it's the crystal at arches nearest the lake.

Strange that it worked for my SS (fresh adult) and it didn't work for the other person's SS.

[tranquil cobalt]

What is that person's SS Elder % at?

[latent meadow]

I didn't hear any rumble at all in their voice, so I assume fresh adult as well... They don't speak english here, so I can't ask. ^^;

[tranquil cobalt]

I don't think the Elder voice comes in till full elder

[gusty delta]

Green should work for all the dragons

[latent meadow]

Good to know. I'll keep that in mind and watch my % for when it stops working.

[latent meadow]

We had a mass calling around a blue in the evening... Three SS of varying %, two ASDs, a FS, and a blitz... No response.

[gaunt stream]

Were they all aiming at the white geode in the crystal?

[latent meadow]

Another blue crystal, smaller FS got it to work this time. Raining. And yes, everyone was aiming.

[covert ocean]

crystal in the geode*

[gaunt stream]

it's a Crystal inside a Crystal technically

[covert ocean]

the rock formations themselves are called power geodes (by the devs)

the white is crystal

a geode is basically a rock with crystal in it, I think

[covert ocean]

https://i.imgur.com/NleBIGb.png

[covert ocean]

basically a geode is the whole thing and it has crystals inside

but either way the official name for the rocks/pillars themselves is Power Geode so I'm going with that - the thing is a geode and the open part has crystals

sets them apart from the regular cosmetic crystals on the map

[gaunt stream]

The problem I have is no matter how hard I search I can't find a "geode" that looks like that

The one in-game

[covert ocean]

creative liberties of a fantasy game xD

[gaunt stream]

I'm aware

[covert ocean]

geodes are meant to be hollow, our geodes are basically rocks and in one place they're broken open to see crystals

[gaunt stream]

I'm aware

[covert ocean]

oh

okay

good talk

[gaunt stream]

I wasn't asking for a lesson, and I did mention that I'm a rock collector

Any who the closest I can find is a hand crafted one

[covert ocean]

not that I can see, but whatever xD I was more talking about what the things are called in game than what they would be in real life since we're talking about the game

[covert ocean]

fancy

I thought people said that cyan likes ss

this one does not like me even though it's day

[cosmic river]

these are in fact geodes

[gaunt stream]

I can accept that, thank you, Fandom

[cosmic river]

we called them monoliths at first

testers

then got corrected

[gaunt stream]

I don't appreciate the approach that was taken originally in correcting me however

[white path]

hi chat have we cracked the code

[lost totem]

Time: Night
Location: Big Rocks - 47S x 14E
Dragon to Charge: Blitz

However the gem isn't exploding

It is humming

[covert ocean]

keep callling

keep one calling at it it takes about 10 calls

[lost totem]

Ah

Missed it

[covert ocean]

and don't wait too long in between or it'll stop humming and change color

oh xD

[lost totem]

This is what it looked like unactivated

Ok, so.
Time: Night
Colour: Yellow
Dragon to Activate: Bio
Number of calls: 9
Location 47S x 14E

[cosmic river]

this is magenta

[hallow mountain]

I'm assuming that this one is for blitz? it's the only dragon who can hover and has elder stage

[covert ocean]

hybrid too in the future, but yes. it's likely too far away for other dragons

[eager heath]

no, theres a ledge you can sit on and call

slighly right from the blitz, the white part aims at it

[covert ocean]

you mean this? https://i.imgur.com/2z4zMzi.jpeg

[last minnow]

first active crystal of the day on my loop and ofc i cant activate it

Time: dusk
48% elder

tried again at night and it still didnt activate

[hallow mountain]

Ohhh

[heavy ridge]

Bios can set off the yellows as well. If you time it right so you crash into the wall at the same time as your friend sets it off, that might also work.

[last minnow]

looks like it

ok so far today is already a better day than last night, finally got the dark blue crystal for ss

[hasty vector]

Someone managed to activate a white crystal with a bs at dusk, weather was mildly cloudy

[gray ocean]

It is a fully intended mechanic that Bios can activate crystals

[covert ocean]

Bios have a use!

[lethal lion]

Haven't found a working one yet so far

[lethal lion]

Explain please.

[covert ocean]

Some people have had success with bio resonating geodes

That other people can then get ticks from

So that’s not a bug, it’s intentional

[chilly iris]

These two purples/magentas reacted to my 50% Inferno Ravager
The first during Morning, the second during Evening
They did not give anything to my friend's IR who's ~3.4%

[lethal lion]

Like, bios can make them active or like their song ehances the chance of success

[covert ocean]

They can make them glow and hum

Where other dragons might not be able to

[heavy ridge]

Anyone on Blitz hits the point where Megenta stops working at night, ping me if either Red or Yellow starts working for you. Or ping me if it's something else, i guess.

I have a hunch.

[cosmic river]

enhancing is one thing, activating is another

[muted moat]

i think this is blue??? wont work at night and in the rain

[cosmic river]

cyan

[covert ocean]

fandom is the color master

how you can tell what color it is without a reference against the other similar color is beyond me 😂

though I also haven't seen dark blue in a while

[covert ocean]

I really gotta leave the geodes alone for a moment and raise up a blitz 😂

[last minnow]

dark blue is so rare its not even funny😭

[lethal lion]

Can someone give me a step by step instructions on the crystals? I tried so many and I just can't get them to work for me.

[heavy ridge]

What ever dragon you're maining, stay on that one
Tell me if anything stops working. Tell me if anything starts working.

I'm going to start the biggest freaking dot plot

[last minnow]

they either work or dont

[white path]

where is this?

[lethal lion]

72 of them didn't work for me.

I turfed down lines

[last minnow]

in that cave down the river right of br

[white path]

ah ty

[last minnow]

yw

[white path]

i'll be sure to check it (too lazy to keep going back n forth)

[lethal lion]

I tried 72 crystals today and yesterday.

[white path]

i check like 3 or 4 places bc flying is slow.....

dedication

[lethal lion]

None of them did anything

[white path]

rip

[lethal lion]

I got to be doing something wrong

[white path]

did you aim

[cosmic river]

magic

[last minnow]

on my loop i found like 4 crystals that were something, only 1 was ss

[covert ocean]

Lmao when a geode doesn't work I generally fly my other dragons over just to see if any of 'em can make it work

[last minnow]

you can tell by how bright it is

[cosmic river]

this is a blue

[covert ocean]

my SS is the main one tho, since it's fast in the air and fast on land

[lethal lion]

Yes, aimed with right click and 1 called 5 times. No glow.

Tried it with FS and SS.

I even tried courting them first, they hate me xD

[covert ocean]

when you're a blitz it only feels natural to try and flirt with the geodes

[lethal lion]

True...

[heavy ridge]

❤️ I'm going to start graphing by growth. I need data for people crossing that 18% line, or

any reports

Of colors starting/stopping working for an individual. (And their growth %)

Really. Any reports. @heavy ridge

[covert ocean]

oo a green

love greens

[cosmic river]

has anyone encountered one color changing to another?

[lethal lion]

Nope

[cosmic river]

i saw someone talking about that earlier

[muted moat]

it turned blue?

[cosmic river]

it changed?

[muted moat]

yea

[cosmic river]

alright so

[covert ocean]

green loves me too :D

[lethal lion]

Did see one that had a SS crashing into it, doing 20 backflips before SS was launched into outerspace.

[cosmic river]

did you stop screaming at the rock before it changed?

[muted moat]

yeah i swapped dragons

i brought my blitz over

[cosmic river]

failed activation
they will change if you stop activating it

[covert ocean]

12.5% ss made a green geode resonate during morning - some clouds

[cosmic river]

and if the time of it being active runs out - it will fade altogether and move on to another geode

[covert ocean]

yeaahh don't do that you can only leave like.. I think 10 second gaps? between calls

[muted moat]

the middle didnt glow for my ss tho

[cosmic river]

at all?

[muted moat]

no

why i swapped

[covert ocean]

oh

[cosmic river]

show another screen

[covert ocean]

they can change color on their own. saw it on the media branch

though it didn't happen a lot

[cosmic river]

it may have been a faint glow

no it did not change

still cyan

[muted moat]

i cant be here long cuz its pvp xD

[covert ocean]

that looks cy- yeah

[muted moat]

so dif lighting?

[covert ocean]

lighting does a LOT to them

like a lot

check the 2nd pinned message for examples

[cosmic river]

[covert ocean]

to the extend that I literallly thought there were like 5 different purply colors

plus a red