#New Elder System

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modern field
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depends if i die quick on molten montain lol

slender arrow
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When that server populates again when the blitz is out you could be the first elder lol 😂

covert stag
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Well my ASD is 100%....nothing happened, i'm still classed as an ADULT. There has been no indication what so ever what to do next. Been to a few landmarks, Elder forest and elder tree you know the well known places. Even up one of the mountains. Call signed in all places i visited too. Including DLC. Oh and of course did some unmentionable things to some crystals...i know i know but it was for science you must understand. Overall i have no idea what to do next.

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Oh and im currently logged off sleeping next to a crystal i had fun with

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Forgot to mention that i did NOT get an Evolution Point

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Mind you it could be a case of i need to be logged in for a couple of hours straight but im just a bit bummed to bother right now

oblique cipher
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just have to wait till next tick Mactalisker ^^

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happened to someone before too, and they became elder after the last tick (yus even at 100%)

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so 12 hrs ;-;

covert stag
oblique cipher
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probably smth like that :'D

covert stag
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Well thats a relief i suppose. Have they said what happens next?

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Seeing as this is meant to be the first step

small sedge
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Nope, we have no idea what steps 2 or 3 involve

covert stag
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You know ive actually just noticed that those that have made Elder arent sauing much here....When you hit Elder doe s a warning message pop up saying "First rule of elder club..." etc?

small sedge
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They probably aren't saying much because they haven't been able to find anything, and there have been several cries for them to have their elders die 🤣

native yacht
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well it depends on how they eldered no?

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most of those who eldered arnt in a pvp server

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and most pve servers, at least the ones i know, do juvi grow

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and that is not a natural growth.

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last i check admins grows bascially end the elder process

heavy ridge
heavy ridge
covert stag
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I'm willing to sacrifice my ASD and IR and maybe SS but nothing happens to my FS until i know for certain.

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IR at 44% is gonna be a bit painful. There will be about 10 seconds where i will be just inconsolable.

small sedge
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If you're willing then you could potentially let a bug take your ASD's life, I'm sure the bug would be so excited to finally avenge all of its friends and family

covert stag
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Decide to go out on a high note OD the mushies toocool

small sedge
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Hopefully investigating as a reborn ASD would unveil whatever the next steps are, and once those are discovered then you could spawn a FS if you don't have one already? That way you don't have to dump progress on IR or SS to see if the method unlock is per server or per species

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oh wait I def didn't read

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scratch the FS

covert stag
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Havent got Mela skin but i know how. so im thinkin it may be similar

small sedge
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Yeah honestly I really hope that getting passive once on one species unlocks it for all because otherwise the sheer amount of time you'd be stuck trying to passive a brood is going to drive me insane

covert stag
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You know it checks with the “first step, become that which you seek so that you can seek that which you wish to become” quote. Die "so that you can seek that which you wish to become"

hardy breach
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So...Become an elder passively, then seek for other elders or something???

covert stag
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Something like that but i would more likely to be faster growth for future dragons. And i would guess you would have to passive grow each dragon to unlock it for that species or maybe class

covert stag
hardy breach
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oh, yeah. I forgot that part lol

slender arrow
void patrol
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Yes that is the issue, you need one more tick

slender arrow
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Before my ASD got sent to Valhalla when I hit 50 I never got my 5th point but the next tick 12 hours later gave it to me

void patrol
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It does that for juvi/adult too I think, it'll sit at 100% but still need 1 more tick

slender arrow
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It will tell you on your biology that your elder if you hover over the age

modern field
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It should be the last tick tho, unless its a bug with 1.0 and it needs an extra tick

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covert stag
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No worries. i'm not sacrificing anything until im out of options. Have an SS at 63.8%

modern field
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daim im one tick behind you >:)

covert stag
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oh im gauranteed to miss a few ticks

covert stag
tardy perch
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If neither of those things gets you to elder now, then yeah it's a case of you are at like 99.2748923579230% or some stupid number XD

heavy ridge
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Yeah, the game doesn't round your ticks, but the growth menu sure does XD

rapid radish
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I'm gathering data to determine a pattern for it ^^

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you didn't happen to note down your ticks along the way? :p

quaint arrow
covert stag
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ASD is now officially an Elder. However my statement about no indication on what the next steps are still stands. Didnt notice any change in growth with other dragons either.

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And so i have come to a decision i shall let you the people decide. Kill my ASD to see hat happens or let him live a little longer incase something happens or is revealed.

royal sundial
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Try around some more

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It was 3 steps of which the first was to grow

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So I don't think killing as the next step is the answer

covert stag
royal sundial
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I see what you mean but the first step is completed by growing so then maybe do something and then either something else or kill it of after the second step

covert stag
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What i would really like to know is, is it ONLY the first step thats "Soloable" and "non-campable"? If the whole process is soloable then it cant really be anything to do with seeking other Elders.

royal sundial
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That's true

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I think everything is soloable and non campable otherwise he probably wouldn't have mentioned it

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He seems proud to have made it non campable

covert stag
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It could be similar to the Mela skin. You cant apply the skin until your current dragons die.

royal sundial
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Hmm

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Maybe having an elder and doing something then killing it unlocks an elder pearl

covert stag
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I have o clue what it coulkd be though. I have been around the map call signs here and there and nothinjg. No changes that i can see with the sense/nightvision abilitys (but then again i am colour blind lol)

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Actually on that note. Is the sense colour for Bugs and Water the exact same or just me being colour blind? lol

royal sundial
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So the bio dragon can't full fill one of the steps is it because of natural elder or something else?

royal sundial
covert stag
next flint
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It doesn't.

royal sundial
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Yep so is that why it can't full fill one of the steps or because of more than that?

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Because if that's not the only reason then we can get rid of a lot of things like eating a lot bugs or something

covert stag
royal sundial
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Hmm well if it's like that then we have more possibilities

covert stag
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Adult is as far asit will grow

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lol Adult is the Bio endgame

royal sundial
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True

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Oh gtg cya try and figure more out

covert stag
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Cheerio

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think i shall go for a few rounds of Helldivers 2

royal sundial
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Have fun

balmy moss
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Hmm if you do kill your asd. Things to check for the asd. is it faster to elder the next one.

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The first step could be considered "prestige".

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Hmm. This could be it. You need to "prestige any dragon"(the first step) then kill it. Then it unlocks the active eldering for the next dragon of that same species of dragon.) Makes it grindy. And strategic.

covert stag
slender arrow
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Or going to locations

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Or maybe the 2nd step is doing something on your elder

covert stag
slender arrow
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Maybe you have to be on the another for longer ? Or something who knows there so many things lol 😂

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I wish he would just tell us to be honest cuz telling us dosnt change the fact that you have to passive elder

covert stag
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Not sure i can be a**ed logging in for a couple hours lol

slender arrow
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Before you kill in just trying and mess around on the another’s and see if anything changes

covert stag
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im no hurry to kill anything. But need to play some games with things to do. Im actually it bit bummed out nothing of significance happened

rapid radish
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If it's like mela unlock and you have now unlocked the active method for others, the method is indeed active aka you need to do something 😅 But I understand if you don't want to, but maybe if we compile a list of things you to try with the other dragons and you could at least try those things? 🙂

summer arch
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It's 3 steps

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First one is eldering passively

rapid radish
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The first steps unlocks the active method, Jao himself said so 🤔

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or that's how I undestood this 🙂

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summer arch
naive otter
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Bump bioheart nini

covert stag
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Is there anywhere on the map considered ASD's natural habitat?

summer arch
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they're ambush predators with the ability to swim

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I guess lakes, rivers and forests ?

covert stag
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i was thinking swamp but theres nothing i can see that i consider swampy lol

summer arch
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hmm

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you know an actual sawmp would fit the asd so well

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i want it now xD

rapid radish
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I understood that the step 2 and 3 are the activ e eldering mechanic 😄

covert stag
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Oh know i just had a terrible thought...

small sedge
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Just make sure that if you do decide to off your ASD soon, it actually says in your stats that you're elder and not adult. Sometimes it'll be at 99.95% or something and round to 100 without actually being 100 halp

covert stag
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What if the 3 steps to actively Elder is....Hatchie, juvinile, Adult Actice Elder unlocked. Seek that whuch you wish to become? A Dragon 🤦‍♂️

covert stag
small sedge
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noice

covert stag
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And got my 7th evo point

rapid radish
covert stag
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I shall strut my stuff for 30 more mins (think that will be 2 hours logged in) then need to play something else before i go mad...

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have been trying many things. Killing bugs with Q ability and eating them with it on and off. Same with mushrooms. Abused crystals. Call signed everywhere iv'e been (All calls inc DLC). Howled at the moon at many places like what i call Pride Rock. I am stumped lol

rapid radish
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You have flied around and high?

covert stag
rapid radish
covert stag
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Good point

rapid radish
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I hope it's like mela unlock, so you have now unlocked the active methods for your other dragons

covert stag
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I shall wait this 30 mins then check them out

rapid radish
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If you feel like still playing, try things with the other dragons and see if anything is different or you see or hear new things ^^

void patrol
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In about 12 more days my asd should be elder to try to figure out step 2

slender arrow
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When is the last time we pinged him lol 😆

rapid radish
slender arrow
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Yeah even hints

covert stag
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Well there has been no change from what i can tell with the other dragons. Will check again when i'm on later for their ticks. I may then put the ASD to rest and see what happens.

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Bare in mind i wasnt on for long with the non Elder ones. But i'm bored AF lol

slender arrow
covert stag
small sedge
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Yeahhh I probably won't bother with eldering until our server manages to crank stats to max via breeding tbh

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because within the next 2-3 months stats will improve drastically and I'll want to be part of that effort when I do have motivation to play, but just logging in to sit around doesn't give me motivation to get on in the first place

acoustic holly
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Honestly we are currently having discussions on our server whether or not it’s worth it at this point. It feels cruel to punish a private server for helping their players grow faster. We won’t be able to actively test anything for weeks now, so motivation and morale are super low across the board. Plug and chug in the worst possible ways.

small sedge
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It sure is an encouragement for eldering to be endgame FrogeStare_REH cos why bother now lmao

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I do wanna clarify that I don't want eldering to be easy where you've got elders left and right, but this first step is absolutely mind-numbingly boring

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Hoping that steps 2 & 3 are more fun / engaging / challenging in a good way and that step 1 is revisited at some point

spring fog
# acoustic holly Honestly we are currently having discussions on our server whether or not it’s w...

Real, its like why even allow players to rent a private servers in the first place if you are going to be so dang restrictive on what server owners can do ON THEIR OWN SERVER.

Other games allow server owners do anything the game devs can do plus more with mods and results are flourishing, dedicated communities.

When you think about it, its surprising that private servers are even allowed to show up on the server list

slender arrow
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When is the last time we pinged him let’s see if he can come in here and talk about it with us

agile edge
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Any new info on eldering? (Last I heard was you have to passive elder) sip

slender arrow
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Nope that’s the only thing we got

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No 2nd or 3rd hint

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If the process to elder is so long with the passive ticks and stuff I just don’t see the point of why he just won’t tell us how to do it

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The way the current game is right now I don’t see how the 2nd and 3rd methods can be fun

agile edge
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Hmm, I wonder if that’s why this whole week the servers are sitting at 70-80 players instead of trying to get into a server for 30 mins. Think people gave up on trying to figure out the last steps?

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agile edge
slender arrow
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But if the 2nd step is to kill your elder and you have to unlock elder for each species that’s gonna be cancer to be honest

agile edge
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I really hope that’s not the case. I have 28 accts. Could u imagine having to do that for every acct? Froggie_Uhhh

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I get not having a ton of elders on pvp… but I play pve and elders are good for nesting which is all we have.

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I just don’t get the point of passive eldering to unlock eldering. You are already elder. Job is done.

slender arrow
agile edge
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Thanks for the info. I’ll check back later to see if there are any updates. Have a good day/night. ^^

rapid radish
rapid radish
agile edge
zealous furnace
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Hey guys, but there is a clue for what's after first step. It's actually one of the early ones:

So you guys have to "redacted" "redacted" redacted". Then you obviously have to go to "redacted" to get "redacted".

slender arrow
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I didn’t know this existed

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Were the f do you go tho lol 😂

zealous furnace
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As I see it, first "redacted" could be something unspecific like "water" or "a bug". Or a place like BR, but I don't think so as it is campable.

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Second one could be either a state - "to get wet", or an object - "to get a pearl"

slender arrow
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But perals

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Arnt in the game

zealous furnace
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I know, it's an example

slender arrow
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Ah okay

zealous furnace
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I meant first "redacted" in second sentence.

balmy moss
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well placed wall

rapid radish
agile edge
dreamy acorn
fading canyon
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Jao did say that there wasnt currently any msgs in game that told us if we took a step or figured something out right?

rapid radish
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I'm not sure if he said it specifically, but ppl haven't had any messages at least

rapid radish
agile edge
rapid radish
covert stag
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About to lose Elder due to dodgy terrain. Was doing a deep comb of the ancient forest when i fell in here and cant get out Annoyed

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covert stag
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Yeah im logged out

covert stag
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i was aved and managed to get to water source at 88% thirst lol

stray notch
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hey i'd say head to crater, that would be a good place to die

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i mean they said its important for eldering

stray notch
void patrol
covert stag
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and im the only one on the server

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Ive now been all over the map twice and i havent seen anything out of ordinary. I am done lol

stray notch
stray notch
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or u gotta kill ur self?

covert stag
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I am a passive Elder. Nothing has happened. Been allover the map twice today, using all call signs in each location inc DLC. There is nothing i can see or hear. May leave it a coupleof days and see if anyone else has any luck finding anything before i take drastic measures

tardy perch
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There are 2 more things you need to do after you've gotten you elder from passive ticks.

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What we aren't sure of, is if those last 2 steps REQUIRE the elder you just got.

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Or if it dying resets the whole 3 step process

steady rock
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Kill the Elder to Elder again is a silly idea and even more punishing Than sitting through the pasisive ticks, it's Okay if you die by battle and have to grow again, but requiring to kill IT? Sounds crazy

covert stag
steady rock
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But that's just a skin you can get back with a click, eldering is weeks of work ...to unlock the method to do IT with weeks of work, it's like building a house, then tearing IT down to build IT again because "now you have experience ín IT"

covert stag
steady rock
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Crazy XD wasting materials and time

void patrol
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Unless you kill your elder to allow step 2 for you to start which then possibly helps you elder faster or something appears on the map that only you can see that you either have to eat or collect

steady rock
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But there are an end to prolonging minimal amount of content to...you have to nest for months to get a normal statted dragon, then passive elder for multiple more weeks, or even a month with bigger dragons, to then kill that dragon and start again (if you're lucky your previous parents Will be willing to give you another nest you can skip the upstatting) ín hopes to maaaaybe do IT faster again?

stray notch
tardy perch
sharp dawn
tardy perch
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While you might be right, we really don't know exactly just yet. Yes you will eventually need ot kill that elder you just got if you wanted to start over on maybe a better BL or gened dragon. But that isn't the focus right now

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We don't know if you NEED kill off the elder you just passively got to do the next 2 steps.

steady rock
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Yeah but it's not a different reward you aquire by sacrificing something, it's the exact same thing you already had

tardy perch
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It might be possible that you need to do the other 2 steps on some other dragon, be it of the same species or a different one. We really don't know until Jao gives a hint about step 2

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Or someone notices something odd later, then we'll REALLY have no idea what's going on cuz they would have done steps 2 and 3 without realizing it

steady rock
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We probably won't...if there's no indication of when you did something right, the chances of someone stumbling upon the correct combo right after another is lower Than winning the lottery

sharp dawn
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While it's true that we don't know, if one of his goals was to make elder rarer and harder to get, I don't think keeping your existing elder but permitting you to get elder quickly on other dragons is likely

steady rock
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Then there's no incentive to engage with the mechanism, if you don't gain anything from IT, then why do IT? IT can't be easier Than forgetting about the game for a few weeks and then riping the reward (I hold my point of passive eldering not being Hard, just pointlessly tedious)

tardy perch
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Yeah no, we need more info really. SOMETHING happens after you do those 3 steps. And it better be something good. But since we are lackign info, we really shouldn't judge it yet. Elders should be rare in theory, so I don't mind looking and looking until we have al lthe info. I just want to know what everything is, THEN I can make suggestions on how to make it better.

slender arrow
tardy perch
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I mean that we need a hint for step 2 and 3. We already know what step 1 is

acoustic holly
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Step 1 passive elder. Step 2/3- testing everything that’s already been tested before until we have an answer.

tardy perch
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Basically, until Jao gives hints

rapid radish
acoustic holly
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Also did you passive to adulthood as well?

languid spoke
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Mac passive eldered

rapid radish
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Helluu. ^^ I have now "cracked the code" with the elder tick patterns and my math holds; you need 110 ticks to reach 100% elder on FS/IR, so that amounts to 55 days, if you can gather 2 ticks per day ^^ I you are interested to see, I can share the google sheet where I have the patterns and math ^^

mint tulip
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sup guys guess who's back

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so still no luck?

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sadly i won't be getting any elder ticks for abit on my asd cause my comp died

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stopped at 25

acoustic holly
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You mean outside of passive eldering from hatchie to elder to unlock step 2-3? no

mint tulip
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so ya

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damn was hoping maybe yall figured out step two atleast

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lol watch step 2 be like grow to adult or something silly simple then step 3 is the real start

acoustic holly
mint tulip
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exactly it could be something like that and thus we really only would need to figure out step 3

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if comp worked i probably be almost elder in a week or so

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but alas it died last night while I was at work

rapid radish
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Well the ppl with elders haven't had any luck finding step 2 (at least no one has reported anything), so we are patiently waiting Jao to appear in chat to ask for hints and confirmations on step 2 😄

heavy ridge
mint tulip
covert stag
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I'm gonna be logged in for a bit so if anyone has any suggestiions i'm all ears

primal rain
covert stag
rapid radish
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Just to be clear, you are testing these things with the other dragons, not your elder asd? 🙂

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I would suggest flying above the clouds and also flying through the ravine without touching the walls

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maybe visiting all the "elder trees"

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this is a long shot; see if the much mentioned blue orbs are found during the night 😅

mint tulip
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if all that doesn't work then get renested or kill your elder off and try to reach adulthood with your previously eldered dragon

covert stag
covert stag
mint tulip
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btw what did you elder?

covert stag
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ASD. Only one that can be Elder at this time on Official servers as far as iknow anyway

mint tulip
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fair

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so ya it might be just that whatever species was eldered unlocks step 2 and 3

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but keep checking just incase with your others on the off chance it isn't just per species

covert stag
mint tulip
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so it might come down to per species....

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fun that will be annoying to try and elder some of them

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especially on pvp

dense current
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i can see myself never eldering fs/ir if its per species xD

mild smelt
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we are in the middle of our upstats so the problem is no dragon life longer then a week

covert stag
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Anyone got the coords for ALL elder trees. Want to be sure i have been to all.

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And i have come to a final decision (maybe final lol). Once my SS is Elder ASD will be fertilizerhaha

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Thought until i have another Elder i will continue to lookout for anything unusual with ASD

covert stag
rapid radish
jagged patrol
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Finally im also an Elder! 😄 Now let's see how it goes on

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fickle wing
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So close

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(ASD of course)

slender arrow
# fickle wing

Remember when you reach 100 you have to wait for the next tick lol 😂

covert stag
slender arrow
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The more I think about it the more I tell my self eldering in asd wouldn’t some how make it to were the others dragons you have would have there elder prog unlocked because that would make it pay to win since asd is a dlc dragon

copper elm
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Folks are only eldering asd passively cause it's the fastest. You can still passive elder other dragons

slender arrow
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Yea I know what I’m saying is

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Eldering 1 dragon like in asd isn’t going to unlock eldering for others

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I think you have to do something with your elder

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To unlock the active eldering

fickle wing
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Btw, how do we know that getting to elder passively is the first step/unlocks elder at all?

heavy ridge
hazy mural
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it is Point Wise, but not Eldering wise

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spawn Protection

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what i find weird is i got 3% on my asd in a Single Tick while being at the River Cave in the river with the big log

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though i don't think the location did it

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so what it escapes me

heavy ridge
# hazy mural so what it escapes me

The menu will round up your % sometimes. If you don't already have an elder, that 3% was just the menu reading the growth weird.
Same deal with the ASD's bar reading 100% when it's at 99.99% and you need to wait one more tick to hit elder.

hazy mural
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weird well it Triggered the Growth moment you get around there

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but rn my asd got a 2.(something) tick of elder

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though i had been Running Alot at the 3% tick

heavy ridge
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The actual tick% has like some 3-5 numbers after the decimal point. Only the first one is shown in the menu. Every 4-5 ticks on a IR or FS the 0.9% gets rounded up to 1% because of those extra decimal places. Same deal with the ASD, every so often it gets rounded up.

Active growth is extra ticks, not making your passive ticks larger. And if you don't have an elder already you're not receiving active ticks.

Thank you very much for coming forward 💕 but it's not a reason to panic yet.

fickle wing
wanton nacelle
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@jagged stone could we get a hint for the 2nd or 3rd step, Been trying everything and so far nothing rewarding

rapid radish
cosmic river
pliant yoke
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It was a miracle that he responded to someone who asked him bout elder system and pinged him

hazy mural
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on Frozen Throne

rapid radish
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what is your current elder progress %? 🙂

tardy perch
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I'm at 90-some % so in a day I'll be able to start testing

covert stag
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I am 99% certain there is nothing in Elder forest. Just finished a VERY thorough search from land and sky. North to South in a East to West, West to East pattern. So to other Elders, dont waste your time but feel free just in case.

naive otter
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finally got a decent ASD to elder. after my mistake of getting a juvie grow... lets hope this works! if anyone figures out the next step after lmk!

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covert stag
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The other steps are just fibs to keep people on to figure it out

naive otter
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sometimes i get lucky with help, other times im absolutely ignored

covert stag
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You get ignored? Id say your lucky...i get eaten haha

naive otter
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i play on PVE. but oof i 100% feel your pain

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im just hoping the next step after passive eldering is easier 🙏

covert stag
naive otter
tardy perch
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I'm either hitting elder tonight or tomorrow. Soooon.

bleak brook
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Has it been figured out how to elder yet?

slender arrow
floral bluff
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The steps after that? Mystery!

slender arrow
bleak brook
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Ahhhh okay

covert stag
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Trying to to decide whether i can be bothered logging in to do a bit more searching. Its doin my nut in.

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Also have no idea if theres anything that happens to indicate you did something. Maybe i have and dont know it.

heavy ridge
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At least this time we know once we've got the passive elder it's just two steps after that. really narrows it down

worthy python
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Dose step 1 (getting ticks) only get you the elder size and / or give your elder buffs (Stamina, flame etc) If it gives the elder perks from step 1, are they implying there will be more to elders, cause if not i feel like it would be a waste of time doing step 2 and 3

heavy ridge
worthy python
tardy perch
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We aren't sure yet. We're still trying to discover the full method. Cuz we only know 1 step out of a 3 step process. And although it's a common guess that a 'faster' grindable method of eldering is what s unlocked from those 3 steps, we actually do not know what it is for sure.

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A few of us have or are getting an elder via just passives to try and see if we can find any sort of clue, or even 'oops' doing a step. We won't know we are on to something though until lots of us get to elder naturally and then start throwing stuff at walls and see if ANYTHING out of the ordinary happens or is noticed.

dense current
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Once my ss gets to elder i can help with searching if y’all haven’t figured it out yet. Idd elder an asd but im working on upstating them rn.

slender arrow
heavy ridge
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o7

balmy moss
quaint arrow
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My poor dragons. Highest elder % i have rn is 12 :>

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on an asd.....

dusk ravine
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Got to love new system, spend 1-2 month to get elder than kill that dragon so you can figure out how to elder after growing back to adult. HA!

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Let me reward all your time and hard work by telling you to start over.

mental pier
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is that seriously the new system, passive elder for months, kill the dragon just to figure out a "faster" way to elder again? if thats the case then whats the point in having that system implemented in the first place when your already reaching elder by passive ticks? it makes no sense...

minor hinge
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What we tink for step 2 is be nest in by 2 elder and 3 is elder pearl that is give to you for all dragons but not 100% shure

small sedge
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Jao said it has nothing to do with nesting

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^ (dw disabled the ping)

minor hinge
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Then once hit Elder guss then kill off.

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I have elder asd you tink i like to kill a elder off

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But he all so said for game be more social

proper patio
# small sedge Jao said it has nothing to do with nesting

Some folks suspect he was only referring to the first step. I actually disagree though. It makes more sense for him to be referring to the whole process being unrelated to nesting. People also think this for the other aspects too such as soloable and non campable (that he meant first step only)

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I believe the whole process is meant to be solo able and non campable lol if not... Well, I don't want to think about it 😅

small sedge
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I think there's eventually supposed to be single player mode, right? So if eldering is locked behind nesting or anything completely dependent on a second player, that would stop progress there aside from passives

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But also just a huge inconvenience to folks that do prefer independent play too

proper patio
minor hinge
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Then idk i got Step 1 but i not kill a elder off

small sedge
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Honestly I don't blame you 😂 Not without more information lol

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I sure wouldn't if I'd had the patience to manage it

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And it's still possible that the method will change with an upcoming update since Jao seems to have realized the frustration a lot of us have with the time requirements for unlocking via passive.

proper patio
minor hinge
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That why would you Kill Elder BL A off just to get Elder back on BL E

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Just saying

proper patio
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I'm not sure that bloodline matters?

minor hinge
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But back track in my book

small sedge
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I think they mean starting over in general, like if you had Abl why would you start over at Ebl. I don't think you'd necessarily need to be Ebl again and could get nested in and have the method unlocked for any future dragons but again, nobody knows if killing your elder is the correct move tho

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Neither of us are telling you to off your elder tho so

minor hinge
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Right

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Just dont make sents in my book

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Dont get me Rong i Kown Elder are post to be rare but that rare

small sedge
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yeah 😩 imo the only reason to put it behind a major time-waster like passive eldering only works to prolong the process unnecessarily. It doesn't make sense to me for it to somehow magically make the process easier/accessible to future dragons; I'd still rather have the process unlocked via each dragon needing to prove worthiness somehow, whether completing offerings or quests for dragon dieties or what have you.

minor hinge
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I was hope for Like once you become elder you get to pick the next elder form the players list

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That be social

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I know mite have 100+ player ask you to get it

small sedge
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Mmm I wouldn't like that, because that'd basically allow people to skip any kind of work involved with it and be pretty punishing for people without a clan/who are soloing

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I strongly believe it should be something that you achieve on your own, but it should be linked to the effort that you put into playing vs logging in for a few minutes daily.

proper patio
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I agree. In a good game you should never be at the mercy of other people choosing things for you (I'd never play lol). The only thing you should be at the mercy of, it's survival itself. And as much as I wish I could believe in people, there will always be players who gatekeep or who are super petty. I'd rather earn something myself too

minor hinge
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Some will find step 2 and 3 just dont know when

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Not saying i have the best asd

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It still Elder LOL

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We all tink mite have to get all dragons to elder for Step 2

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I kown Bio dont Elder

small sedge
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Can't be all dragons, while you can get nested in for ASD without DLC, it's still DLC and wouldn't be possible for solo players

cosmic river
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i was a solo player when i joined dod and was nested as asd without the dlc then went on to grow on my own Um

vital pewter
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you can also just.. network w people to get you what you need SIDEEYE

small sedge
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I'm not saying it's difficult to get nested in, I'm saying it'd be a really poor decision to restrict the ability to actively elder to a DLC dragon squint

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because some people don't want to deal with other people, period.

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And also for the eventual single-player mode, you wouldn't be able to get nested in as ASD.

slender arrow
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I just don’t understand why he can’t tell us what it is to be honest it won’t change anything like telling us isn’t gonna make people have 5 elders if you still have to passive elder them

stray notch
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for first tick*

small sedge
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I definitely understand completing a specific task per species to unlock active eldering for that species. Just not "Complete this task with ASD, IR, SS, and FS to unlock it for any species"

steady rock
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Last I heard single player has everything unlocked, including ks, patreon and DLC stuff, but take this info with a grain of salt, It's from the Time when single player was supposed to be a gamemode ín DoD not it's own game

cosmic river
small sedge
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I'm not saying that is was lmao

cosmic river
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nor was it ever proven admin grown dragons cannot elder

small sedge
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That was a theory that was presented, I was saying why it would be a bad decision for that theory to be the way to unlock it

cosmic river
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just throwing info out here as a lot of misinformation has been going around
active eldering has not been discovered, that's all i can say here

small sedge
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We know, people are trying to think of ways it's unlocked because it hasn't been discovered. Nobody is out here saying "you have to XYZ to actively elder", just sharing theories

void patrol
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I bet there’s some people who have figured it out but just kept it to themselves

upbeat igloo
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Can passive elder admin grown but with this being said, admin grown can't unlock the faster way?

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cosmic river
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im still getting ticks Um

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on my admin account

upbeat igloo
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Same.

cosmic river
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may be bugged

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#1067515496230043728

dusk ravine
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I mean the encouragement for PVP players to not play dragons for a month or more and breeders to just not complete the quest for three months is good to know about but bad in practice.

cosmic river
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someone just recently made a suggestion for PvP regarding eldering, check it out and pitch in some ideas garrito

dusk ravine
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More of keeping track of eldering chat than focusing on it. I have been trying to pitch ideas to help breeders since the new breeding system is somehow worse than eldering.

proper patio
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But it can still elder passively. Hopefully that made sense lol

dusk ravine
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@proper patio Yes, that sounds correct.

proper patio
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Nothing yet 😞

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I think most folks are trying to passive elder so we can join those who already have in trying to figure stuff out (that's at least what I'm doing). That or folks are giving up... It's been quiet in here

dusk ravine
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A lot of people gave up and some have no imput because they have to wait 30days to elder ASD to have imput

restive barn
covert stag
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I've more or less given up looking. I'm convinced we are on a wild goose chase.

stray notch
small sedge
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HandsCat_REH I wasn't complaining about it I was responding to someone else saying that's what they theorized the method would be

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and giving my 2 cents on why that's not gonna be the method

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lord 😂

proper patio
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^ can vouch, not a complaint lol just reasonable discussion and thought sharing lol

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Anywho, I'm dying to elder 😵‍💫 SS is 42%, I just wanna help lol! I'll be curious to hear from current elder dragons

covert stag
proper patio
mint tulip
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i wonder how many people just renested their elders yet

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like bruh just try that

devout kettle
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How we doin lads

mint tulip
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morale is low

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and my computer is dead atm so mine is currently sinking into the ground like it was quicksand

devout kettle
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c': felt

tardy perch
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I've made it to elder! And made a very small discovery that 'might' be worth looking at.

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I've been very curious if one of the hints Jao gave was for JUST step 1, or the whole process. Which is this hint:

So guys you have to Redacted Redacted Redacted. Then you obviously have to go to Redacted to get Redacted

So if this hint was for ONLY step one, then I would have to follow a sort of phrasing for it. Since we know step up is getting a dragon to elder via passives, is there anyway this hint can even fit as JUST for step 1?

To me, no it can't, since I can't think of what words would go in there. "Grow to adult' fits in the first but you don't GO anywhere while passive eldering. I thought maybe it was 'go to SLEEP' to claim 'ELDER', but That wasn't it either. I tested it yesterday when the game said I was at 100%. Maybe I had to go to sleep to claim 'elder' so the game would change what the UI said. It didn't work. So I slept and logged off completely, but came back immediately to see if logging out was the trigger to get elder. Still nope. I had to wait another 12 hours FOR SURE for the game to tell me I'm an elder and the calls changed over.

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Which means...this hint?

So guys you have to Redacted Redacted Redacted. Then you obviously have to go to Redacted to get Redacted

Might be a clue to ALL the steps.

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And if so, that means the first one is 'Get to elder'. Now I plan to use that elder to 'obviously go to' something. Now...what is an obvious thing to do is the question.

hardy breach
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I think it's that maybe we have to go to Elder Forest, I mean, that's what it's called, right? 'Elder' Forest? Then we move on from there.

tardy perch
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Well thing is, that's a community name for the area from when there were elder shrooms there. It COULD be, but without the place being official called elder forest, I hesitate to think it's that. Still, I will go explore it regardless with the elder.

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Hmmm...what would an elder 'obviously' want to do...

mint tulip
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kill its weaker foes

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but it won't be that

tardy perch
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Ping is off. Can we get a hint for step 2 please?

tardy perch
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While we wait, I'm trying to do as much as I can with my new natural Elder.

dense current
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you can actually tell when ping is off when people reply! if it had the @ before the name in the reply its a ping if the @ isn't there in the reply its off :>

dense current
dense current
somber shuttle
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I think they specified that ping was off so they didnt get roasted about replying to a dev, and you roasted them anyways XD

agile edge
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Any progress yet? CheeseLordLurk

dense current
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i was moreso explaining than trying to roast dragonhug

rapid radish
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Mayura, I didn't know this, thanks for telling! ^^

dense current
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np :>

dreamy acorn
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So ur telling me I need to play logout simulator for 60 days (basically whole summer) in order to unlock eldering

lime viper
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Yes KEKL

slender arrow
turbid copper
faint tendon
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Might be changed, but currently that's step 1/3 of active Eldering

proper patio
keen spire
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This is wrong. You forget that we were expected to solve the mystery in "two weeks". So it doesn't add up. You're "wasting your time" focusing on passive eldering.

red musk
sharp dawn
faint tendon
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Yeah, Rhino confirmed step 1/3 about a week ago. #1209681807746801724 message

keen spire
sharp dawn
keen spire
faint tendon
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I think he's fairly aware, based on a response from later the same day: #1209681807746801724 message

One point of conflicting interest, it seems, is that they don't want severs swarming with Elders. So they want Eldering to be something not everyone is willing to commit to.

small sedge
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My guess is that during testing an increased growth factor was used, skewing the expectation of time involved

dreamy acorn
slender arrow
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I’ll let you guys know later if losing your elder is the way to go once my asd hits adult again

dense current
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appreciate the sacrifice 🫡

slender arrow
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It went down swinging at least

covert stag
covert stag
spring fog
# dusk ravine I mean the encouragement for PVP players to not play dragons for a month or more...

pretty much this lmao

many breeders gave up on upstatting (slry, I know someone who rolled eggs for 3hrs to get next BLQ stat up) and now just waiting for brood watcher to come out as well as a reliable way to get first elder tick for dominate trait

many fighters don't have things to fight for or an urge to get something before someone else gets it (shrooms)

everyone is just chilling and playing other games until theres more news of how to elder

covert stag
dusk ravine
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@covert stag First you have to tick a dragon to elder and die as that elder, than you can go places as an adult to look for how to elder.

covert stag
dusk ravine
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Its not a waste of 1-2 months of your time eldering to just die if you can possible, maybe elder faster in the future after searching for a puzzle you cant see and dont know how to solve.

covert stag
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Think id rather wait until my SS is Elder before offing ASD. Just so i have another Elder to search with. I do still search a little bit when i log in for ticks. Would rather it is confirmed about your sugestion.

dusk ravine
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There is no confirmation your dragon needs to die, but we have multiple people in this chat who have hit elder via passive ticks and not found anything new. Since the rest of the end game has been created to waste your time my guess is your elder dragon needs to die and than that specific dragon type on that server will elder slightly faster.

pliant yoke
dusk ravine
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Nothing in 1.0 has been made to make you have an objective to play after hitting adult at this point.
Nesting is RNG based with a 1/4 chance to roll even stats and less than that per stat to improve.
Recessives serve no purpose to make RNG worse and you can't see them before you sacrifice your breeder to try and progress line.
Eldering is made so you don't fight or risk losing everything.
Quests don't exist.
Skin crafting is RNG But that will at least change in 9 months with brood watcher.

pliant yoke
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Yea honestly i got no reason to play anymore, after you hit adult you got nth interesting to do, if there was skin crafting, quests or a better way to elder in the game ppl would def play it more

covert stag
acoustic holly
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But that is left for the feedback channel. I won’t hash it out here further.

Once someone has naturally eldered though, we will need them to retest (on a different dragon) every single theory that has already been tested to determine if there is a difference and/or to discover what the next steps are.

steady rock
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How was that message with the three redacted-s exactly?

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I haave a hunch but I would like to check if IT fits the message well

acoustic holly
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Should be pinned. Or in the document provided in pins.

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I think it was a bit of a joke though, not necessarily an exacting thing.

steady rock
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Yeah I found the message ín the doc, but i'm not sure if it's an exact quote, because IT says "if you want to Elder you have to redacted redacted redacted" and if I remember correctly IT was something like "if you want to Elder you have to redacted then go to redacted and do redacted"
If the 2nd is correct what if the method is:
Grow to Elder passively> die> find your dead body> eat it> unlocks eldering

fading canyon
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Luckily theres only 3 spawnpoints for babies rn, but you would be running the risk of other hatchies eating your body as well before you can

steady rock
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Yeah true

small sedge
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Even with just 3 spawn points, you're more likely to not spawn where your dead body is tho. And hatchies are not that great at covering distance 🥲
I hope it doesn't have to do with eating your own corpse tho, just because that'd hinge on someone else somehow not eating it while you struggle to reach it yourself. It'd make it way too easy for your painfully lengthy passive progress to get stolen, even if it's just due to the body disappearing vs someone else having a taste test.

fickle wing
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Well, I'm almost elder ASD on Jrakhon, so if/when I decide to sacrifice it, I'll be sure that someone is around to fly me to my corpse.

slender arrow
steady rock
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I sure hope it's not like that, but until Now our "worst" guessses came true XD

fading canyon
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Maybe you dont need to eat it as the same species? just as long as its your elder corpse eaten by you

steady rock
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That would help a bit

pliant yoke
dense current
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if its eating an elder corpse i will die as an elder in pvp on pve for everyone o3o

tardy perch
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Whoever said you had to DIE after you've gottnen your elder with passives, that is NOT confirmed. So don't go killing your elders thinking it's needed for the process. We are still looking

slender arrow
slender arrow
dense current
pliant yoke
dense current
slender arrow
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I’m adult again so far nothing so we’ll see

tardy perch
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At the moment, I'm using my new elder to basically just do ALL the mechnics I know about. Exploring, existing, eating, drinking, sleeping...I haven't nested yet (I doubt it's that but no harm in doing it anyway). I've only had my elder for a day though so it'll still be a bit before I MIGHT find anything lol

slender arrow
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Once I get my 1 tick I’ll see if anything changes as of now NO one kill your elders lol almost positive it’s not the way hahah

dense current
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working on upstating asds and trying to elder my ss who is currently at like 23% to elder. itl be a bit before i off any elders xD

mint tulip
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heres hoping i get my comp back soon to pick up the ticks again

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my asd is a ebld so i plan to upstat once eldered

acoustic holly
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It has been disheartening thus far, but hopefully someone will have some good news soon. As for me, no chance right now as I’m focusing on helping out my community—eldering might come later, if at all.

mint tulip
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has anyone tried going to arch as elder?

tardy perch
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I have.

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I didn't find anything in paticular. But I'm also looking for a needle in a haystack by hoping I do 2 steps by accident and then hoping I can spot the method I 'oops' unlocked XD It's not gonna be easy without another hint from Jao

mint tulip
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ikr?

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like i want a hint for step 2 it can be vague this time I won't complain

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hell just a is step 2 even possible with a already eldered or is it for new dragon of same species

tardy perch
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Making another pleading attempt XD Can we get a hint for step 2 and 3 pleeeeease? I'm begging ya Jao.

mint tulip
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lol

tardy perch
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It might work one of these days lol

mint tulip
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i mean they are probably asleep atm

acoustic holly
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Probably shouldn’t ping him either. I know the mods get spicy about it.

compact berry
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They didnt ping him

stray notch
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wssup guys

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just sayin, personally i'd need step 2 or 3 hinted or told so i can start working on this again

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but now its just funny how he said the only thing we found out by ourselves

acoustic holly
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Correction: he confirmed the only thing we found out by ourselves. What he did not confirm was whether or not our various other attempts would be successful or not. And there's still always the possibility of it all being changed

mint tulip
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thus why i want to know if it is a per species or not and if it has to do with the current elder being alive or if it is for future spawns for if/when your elder dies or you renest

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just a hint on that to help us figure out what track to go with

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i just think the first step will not change if they do change it

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now that we got warmer who knows if jao will change it quiet yet

keen spire
covert stag
mint tulip
covert stag
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Oh just so other Elders here know. I have i believe thoroughly searched all known landmarks

mint tulip
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bonked every tree bug and crystal? 😛

covert stag
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I aint bonking no bug 🤣

mint tulip
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LOL

pine mica
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Maybe 2 step is related to ancient water?

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mint tulip
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coordinates?

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for others not me sadly no computer till i hear back from repair shop

languid trout
smoky hatch
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Unlikely, as that would be campable. Worth a look anyways.

pine mica
smoky hatch
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change locations? how so?

wide canopy
covert stag
runic prairie
runic prairie
wide canopy
runic prairie
wide canopy
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Leme find it rq

runic prairie
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Lets move subject from this one

wide canopy
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Yh the one I use is missing ponds but looks better

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Thiiis

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If someone can combine those two ima cherish u forever until official map is out

slender arrow
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Yeah so getting my first tick and nah it’s the same 2.1 so killing your elder is not the way or it’s not the 2nd step lol 😂

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It’s still something you have to do with elder

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My theory is we are being. Told there are 3 steps so he can buy some times to implement something else when blitz comes out lol 😂

runic prairie
dusk ravine
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So I understand method was changed to make elders more rare. Problem is with passive ticks existing they will never be rare, they will just take 1-2 month to become invasive.

If you want elders to be rare you need to attach the system to something that cant be camped but can be done at a risk to every dragon. On PVP servers that would look like fighting/killing an adult dragon or 2-3 without logging not in clan and you gain a specific % when you do that. This would make people need to risk their dragons or waste their own clans time growing dragons to just die on them. Or doing another quest along those lines. As long as passive ticks exist at some point a clan will just pop in with 10+ elders because they waited which than the elders will become invasive because while those ones fight they will tick their extra accounts.

PVE would be quests but PVE will always have tons of elders for those who have patients.

orchid barn
# dusk ravine So I understand method was changed to make elders more rare. Problem is with pa...

The thing is, I don't really get the "make it more rare" argument... Like, there has been no other endgame content than eldering via shrooms for years. Obviously after that amount of time almost all players will have had an elder at least once.
That doesn't mean that eldering was easy. Unless your clan dominated the server you were on, eldering was a challange (different kinds in PvP and PvE). You had to watch your back, had to bring friends for protection, your prog was being hunted down if you weren't careful enough.
Saying "oh, well, there were too many elders" isn't put into perspective. Players had years to learn shroom spots by heart and try and do it over and over again, because there was nothing else to do.
Not arguing with you, Ganorax, btw. Just adding this in general because it's been bugging me since it came up.

slender arrow
slender arrow
# orchid barn The thing is, I don't really get the "make it more rare" argument... Like, there...

What survival game do you know of that has in endgame mechanic that is easily obtainable .isle and hypos for example are supposed to be something difficult you get Because there so strong .i imgain elder are suppose to be like that something that changes the tide of a battle obviously the better the class the stronger. This whole passive tick thing the more and more I think about the more I understand peoples frustration with it. It’s way to long and not even engaging you sit in the corner of a map log in log out eldering should be risking and fun and engaging at the same time it should be rare . Idk maybe for some people it was hard but for me in legacy it was easy even on populated servers like US 1 it was simple once you learn the routess I just think they should be rare because it defeats the whole purpose of having one if 50 of your clan mates and there alts have it and 50 of the enemy have them as well it becomes a situation of adult v adult but your both just elders so your equals instead of have a big fighting and having 2-3 to turn the fight around …but I do agree the method needs to change because it’s a really discouraging method that makes people not even bother and when you have a game as bare bones as this one you need to come up with a solution to make a core mechanic like eldering fun

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@orchid barn that is fair, my suggestion is more for productive change in a direction the developer wants. As long as passive ticks exist rare elders will not exist because people with multiple accounts will just stop playing for 1-2 months and have pretty much all elders to fight on instead of adults.

Passive ticks do not encourage gameplay and I want people to want to play.

orchid barn
slender arrow
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I did lol but it was elder asd and it was E spawn lol 😂

orchid barn
slender arrow
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I think with asd as well it only takes 20 days

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If you religious get both ticks

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I had mine for like 2 weeks

arctic scarab
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The system is rly bad and they should focus more on current game not on legacy... ppl right now play log in log off every 12h and waiting for promised updates ...

maiden island
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i mean,... they are focused on the current game confused they released the old verison as a seperate game thats about it

tardy perch
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Yeah what are you on about. They didn't relaly need to do anything to make Legacy it's own game lol.

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I'd be more groany about the fact the eldering system might be changing for the next update, meaning we'll have to start from square one XD But that might mean the process will be a little better, so who knows.

steady rock
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I mean, would all the 3 steps change or only the 2 we didn't figure out? If all 3 changes then we'll get rid of the timesink of passive eldering, and that's a win ín my book, if it's only the 2 after passive ticks then we didn't loose any progress, because we didn't make any ín the first place

pliant yoke
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I hope it gets changed, there are so many ppl who dont wanna get on the game and every dragon just to collect an elder tick

tardy perch
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People aren't getting on the game daily because there isn't much to do. Passive eldering isn't hard guys. And if the game gets to a point wher eyou ARE logging on just to play, passive eldering won't FEEL so bad. It just does right now cuz you aren't playing the game for other reasons

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Elders need ot be either hard, or time consuming to get. Passive eldering is fair for all players, so I relaly dunno what else he could do to make it so elders are rare but acheivable

steady rock
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IT would feel bad if you PLAYED a 90% passive eldered dragon and lost IT to a bug or a troll, so no matter if there's Other things to do ín the game, people would not risk to lose their passive elder by playing the game

tardy perch
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I don't play PVP for that reason.

pliant yoke
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I rlly hope it gets changed

tardy perch
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And on full release, the game should ideally get to a state where bugs and glitches will not be a problem. Also also, we STILL haven't figured out what those 3 steps unlock. If it's a grindable way to elder, then I think the first step to UNLOCK something perminently on a server being to passive elder once, is actually very reasonable. It's just without knowing what the other 2 steps are, OR knowing what we unlock, it's very disheartening until we know what we are working with in totality

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Dude if you are taking hours to get o na server, something is wrong with your PC.

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Or your internet connection. Or you home server is always packed.

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I don't even have a high-end PC by any means and it takes me maybe like 5 minutes to boot the game, getting on, grabbing a tick, and leaving.

proper patio
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Easy is subjective, you really don't know other people's situations. Glad it's easy for you lol but I'm tired of hearing people saying it

#

Let's get back to hearing what current elders have tried so far

steady rock
#

usualy early access games make progressing easier while they are being developed due to the frequent changes and updates and slow it down when they are ready to release, not the other way around

urban mantle
#

I still think the other ways to elder isn't even in game yet, but if it is in and when it is discovered it better not require you to passive elder first I sometimes don't have the time or the patience for that and a lot of other people most likely don't have that time also forgetfulnes also figured out that getting a stats in a bl is impossible no matter how many generations you go litterally watched a clan member go to 30 generations with asd and still no good stats if elder is needed to make better stats we are better off waiting for the nurse Dragon to come out

last minnow
urban mantle
#

You know what just bring back mushrooms

tardy perch
#

I think you guys may be leaning way too heavily on this. This is an unlock method...something that once we know all 3 steps, will only need ot be done once (or at worst, once per species) per server. though I say that without knowing what even we unlock with those 3 steps. Ideally it's a better way of eldering, but I suppose we really won't know until we discover it or until Jao spills the beans.

hybrid wave
#

has anyone who eldered tried doing something with the big bugs and/or the stamina-limitation mechanic? Just because the "seek what you want to become" hint and "got to ___" (go to sleep, bc going to a location is campable) are the most obvious things in my mind. I wouldn't bother anyone about the poor bugs, but my ASD is still growing 😭 (half way to elder on officials atm)

dusk ravine
#

Could also be "go to nest"

tardy perch
#

I have for sure went to sleep as an elder, sicne you gotta do that to log off properly. I have no nested yet. Plan to do so next I play.

#

I'm an ASD which doesn't have second-wind, so it can't be second-wind related

fickle wing
#

Could it be stamina exhaustion related, though...? 🤔

tardy perch
#

I can check that. It'll take a bit to completely drain my stamina all the way to near nothing, but it's something I should do anyway. Trying to do at least everything once XD

stray notch
#

anything new

hybrid wave
#

sorry I meant the stamina exhaustion mechanic lol, not sleeping by itself lol

stray notch
hybrid wave
#

it's just the "become what you seek so that you can seek what you become" or something, not a new hint

#

along with the REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED old hint

pliant yoke
#

Its growing to elder with passive ticks first

#

But we still dont know the next two steps

dense current
#

My ss just hit 25% elder last night. Im slowly working my way towards helping with the hunt <3

last minnow
#

gonna be elder on flaming falls tonight so ill be able to help search again

proper patio
#

I'm getting there too, SS at 50 and ASD at 40. I can't wait to finally be able to try stuff 😵‍💫

deft spruce
#

60% on IR T_T

turbid copper
#

only 32% ApuSit

agile edge
#

Better than my 5% IR. imsdLOL

quaint arrow
#

Just feels like there is less to do in 1.0 than there is in legacy. In legacy, if you were bored and had adult dragons, you could try and hunt for shrooms in strange and weird places

#

Now you just kinda have to log in and log out for roughly 1-2 months just to even start unlocking the eldering system on other dragons

slender arrow
quaint arrow
#

Honestly 😭

#

Considering if you're semi decent at shrooming then you can elder in half the time it takes to passive elder (in a crowded server)

#

3 days max if ur really good at it, or just lucky

sinful haven
chrome yarrow
#

i keep getting home from work too late and then i cant get my ticks in the morning! its maddening

#

i wish it were every 8 hours instead of 12 😭

agile edge
#

Wish it was every 24 hours. If it was, I’d be able to help with discovering the second step by now

slender arrow
sinful haven
jagged stone
#

Elder system is changing in update 1.0.1 and will be an active system again (something you have to do) instead of the current system which was supposed to reward you for just playing the game (like SWG) and be uncampable which was something players wanted us to get rid of.

So the new system will be an active system again but not mushrooms and not something you can prevent other players from getting.

slender arrow
#

For the new system

jagged stone
#

hmm

timber glade
#

Please

slender arrow
#

If you look there like 40k messages we been trying to figure it out

#

A lots of us have made it to elder and we still can’t figure it out lol I even unalived my elder for science 🧪

jagged stone
timber glade
timber glade
slender arrow
#

So I awaited for the ticks again hoping I got more prog

jagged stone
#

hmm nope

slender arrow
#

So if it is death

#

There still chance for me to figure it out ?

timber glade
#

But was unaliving the Elder a step into the right direction?

slender arrow
#

I didn’t try to travel the map I will say that much but if it’s not something you can camp the only thing it could be is staying on and playing ? For few hours ? lol 😂 idk

torn peak
#

was be great if we get information about current eldering system... because why keep it in secret if its gonna be change . and this information will bring back online which was in a start of new version

#

okay first step was natural grow fully than passive ticks elder , ppl already did that and happend what - nothing

#

and we stuck again

jagged stone
#
  1. Become that which you seek

  2. # # # that which you've # # # # #

  3. # # # # # # # moon you'll # # # # yourself again

#

wow discord

timber glade
#

Ngl, that confused me even more

slender arrow
#

Reeeeeeeee

bold tusk
chrome yarrow
#

now it makes sense! i figured it was multiple words at the end

slender arrow
bold tusk
#

Maybe someone hacked your letters. should probably type it out again to be sure 🙂

chrome yarrow
torn peak
slender arrow
#

I’m gonna say it’s tighed to death

#

Since he asked me what I did after so

timber glade
#

But why is he mentioning the moon ?

#
  1. After the moon
torn peak
#

so get natural grow to elder
die in a fight or just slay ?
than grow again and after 1 full day will see results ?

glad star
#

unlive is an option to write guys xD

chrome yarrow
#

sorry XD

glad star
#

hahah

bold tusk
#

Become that which you seek
(mordor) that which you've b e c o m e
after the moon you'll heal(or unalive) yourself again
my guess lmao

slender arrow
chrome yarrow
#

thats what i thought

bold tusk
timber glade
torn peak
#

we need more information (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

bold tusk
#

oh wait pve

#

I forgor

torn peak
#

XD

timber glade
#

Hmmm

faint rose
slender arrow
#

Riddles and riddles lol 😂

chrome yarrow
#

first word could be await or arise maybe?

faint rose
#

It's not even a riddle, it's just needlessly cryptic

timber glade
lime viper
#

Watch the moon you'll find yourself again?

timber glade
lime viper
#

Mhmmm

timber glade
#

Like an Orb

#

Or smth like that ?

bold tusk
#

a ghost you

#

xD

timber glade
#

xD

bold tusk
#

follow your own ghost as a hatchling

#

gotta run across the map

#

no food no water

torn peak
timber glade
#

Maybe go where your Elder died ?

bold tusk
dusk ravine
#

At least eldering is getting a fix w/e that may be. Nesting still a mess though, yay RNG with really really bad odds.

chrome yarrow
#

so we gotta experiment again, someone needs to stare at the moon and someone needs to sacrifice themselves under the moon? after mordering their elder

bold tusk
torn peak
lime viper
#

I am just happy having to passive elder to 100% will be changed lol

torn peak
#

but domi still will be need

timber glade
dusk ravine
#

Nurse is coming after 18A is brute forced... nice

lime viper
#

liker I can actually play my dragons now and dont have to hide them lol

prisma crest
dusk ravine
#

Also 4th point is fine but not as useful as just nesting, anyways this is wrong chat for that talk.

cold summit
#

Become that which you seek
seek that which you've (wished to) become

# # # # # # # moon you'll # # # # yourself again

#

second point comes from a hint he already gave

dusk ravine
#

Happy for news on elder change ty JAO, unfortunate the first method did not encourage playing.

torn peak
slender arrow
lime viper
#

I read somewhere that 18As is not even possible/ whished for by the devs? but dont quote me lol

chrome yarrow
timber glade
dusk ravine
#

18A is possible because stats don't decrease. But recessive make nesting more of a bad RNG game than a fun event.

timber glade
#

I think we should stop talking Abt nesting and focus on eldering again

slender arrow
#

After you die

#

And come back

dusk ravine
#

No reason to focus on eldering because it will change in 2 months with 1.0.1.

#

Passive tick until than

slender arrow
#

I don’t thinking dying under the moon is what does it lol 😂

torn peak
chrome yarrow
#

right the FIRST time you die it might not matter but if you have to die a second time it might

timber glade
slender arrow
#

But dying 2 times

#

Idk

#

I already died once on my elder so

#

Will see what happens when the moon comes out

torn peak
slender arrow
#

Official servers

torn peak
#

was asd ?

slender arrow
#

I did killed for science

torn peak
#

drake *

slender arrow
#

Yes

torn peak
#

what if he means in that dragon type ?

#

not a drakes

slender arrow
#

Nah

#

It’s for every dragon that can elder

#

Welp time to wait for the moon to come at for me to yell at it and see if anything happens

turbid storm
#

good luck to you Rustykins

slender arrow
slender arrow
timber glade
slender arrow
timber glade
agile edge
#
  1. Become that which you seek

  2. # # # that which you've # # # # #

  3. # # # # # # # moon you'll FIND yourself again

Anyone think each # is a letter? I’ve added my thought for that last word.

restive granite
torn peak
timber glade
broken galleon
#

watch the moon?

turbid storm
cold summit
agile edge
cold summit
#

s e e k that which you've b e c o m e

slender arrow
restive granite
umbral pivot
#

UNDER THE moon you'll FIND yourself again?

chrome yarrow
#

maybe

slender arrow
#

That has to mean something

cold summit
#

# # # # T H E moon you'll F I N D yourself again

timber glade
#
  1. Become that which you seek

  2. # # # that which you've # # # # #

  3. AFTER THE moon you'll FIND yourself again
slender arrow
naive otter
#

what if its howl under the moon?

cold summit
#

Yes it does

turbid storm
#

too many 5 letter words to choose from

slender arrow
restive granite
#

It just isn't howling

#

bc its not 5 letters

naive otter
#

mainly just the 1 call in particular

umbral pivot
#

I think the last line just confirms that it's something to do with night time. Not what to do exactly

agile edge
cold summit
#

anything that fits with "THE" MOON imo

chrome yarrow
#

new like a new moon?

timber glade
agile edge
timber glade
chrome yarrow
#

its pink for me

agile edge
#

Yeah it’s a faded reddish pink

timber glade
#

When I hear red I think abt Like REALLY red moon yk ?

red musk
#
  1. Become that which you seek
  2. Kill that which you've become
  3. Under the moon you'll find yourself again
chrome yarrow
#

i always thought it was the planet and WE were on the moon. Just my personal head cannon.

agile edge
#

Yeah same. Like BoTW red moon, I understand ^^

timber glade
cosmic river
#

@faint rose@slender arrow
dont ping the devs while they're not actively talking in the chat

timber glade
#

But how can the game "track" That you are doing smth under the moon, yk ?

faint rose
agile edge
#

I’m still not on board with the second step. No one on pve is going to be willing to yeet their elder just to be one again

cosmic river
faint rose
#

lmfao ok

naive otter
slender arrow
timber glade
#

Yeah

torn peak
#

only slay which means hacker part

timber glade
slender arrow
chrome yarrow
#

its easy, just crash until you get low health and then let a bug take you out

red musk
torn peak
#

xD

#

but yeh need to try

timber glade
slender arrow
chrome yarrow
#

even less time if you land on the bug

agile edge
# torn peak but how you gonna kill it on PVE server ?

This is only assuming people are willing to enable PvP mode. Then it’s not even guaranteed you will win. Based on your own skill levels, ping, etc… you could be passively eldering for a year and still never be able to kill another elder. This makes zero sense to lock eldering behind a PvP wall. That defeats the whole purpose of PVE in the first place.

timber glade
#

Maybe we gotta wait for the swamp snapper ?

#

Pve = Player VS environment

west dirge
#

If you bite at a bug and not hit it, it will still attack you

torn peak
#

than what

#

🤔

chrome yarrow
#

if all you have to do is die the method shouldn't matter.

slender arrow
#

Bugs don’t care if your elder or baby they will smack your face lol 😂

torn peak
#

you need to grow dragonary full natural and need to die like a real dragon in a fight with other 🤔

slender arrow
chrome yarrow
#

i know

west dirge
#

If he made it so both pvp and pve players can achieve it, then that would really be one of the only options for needing to kill it without engaging in pvp with another dragon

agile edge
#

Again. It makes no sense for pve servers. Just passive elder all ur dragons once 18A and be done with it.

#

No death needed

west dirge
#

^^

#

Really doesn't make sense to kill a elder dragon if you have to passive grow it to elder anyways

torn peak
#

ok gib me ping if anyone tries and will test , because his hint make me more confuse so dont want to risk lol while upstating there

chrome yarrow
#

id really rather stick my face in a deli slicer than passive more than once XD

slender arrow
agile edge
#

Plus, could you imagine the toxicity that could cause in pve servers if you yeet someone else’s elder? I know that’s the risk of going into pve mode but you know there will be sore losers and sore winners

dusk ravine
#

Could be nest that which you have become

naive otter
slender arrow
#

If becoming elder is the way then killing it

torn peak
chrome yarrow
dusk ravine
#

Kill and nest both have 4 letters

west dirge
#

Unless it makes it faster to elder EVERYTHING on the account then it doesn't make sense to throw a elder

agile edge
#

That goes against the hints we got in the past. Isnt based on nesting, pvp, time of day

#

Which is confusing since “moon” is now mentioned

chrome yarrow
#

since when is time of day out? what hint?

dusk ravine
#

What is nested dragons from elders gain a % under the moon

slender arrow
dusk ravine
#

Still wouldn't be very active gamellay but it would be something

naive otter
red musk
chrome yarrow
#

a moon could also mean a month...like as in Many moons ago

agile edge
red musk
#

quite a lot of passive game systems in the game atm Xd
wait to grow, wait to lay eggs, wait to elder 😛

agile edge
west dirge
#

I would honestly much rather it being smaller ticks between smaller intervals for active playtime

#

something that would actually keep players on

agile edge
#

Agreed. It should be 1 login bonus and the remaining % is based on how much active playing you do. No one will be able to cheat the system since they can’t just afk all night

west dirge
#

Yeah

dusk ravine
#

%based on traveling to locations while staying active the whole time

agile edge
#

I wouldn’t lock it behind traveling

dusk ravine
#

But that is too much like a quest

agile edge
#

There are a lot of people who nest, so they would be at a disadvantage if you have to fly around the map aimlessly

faint rose
west dirge
#

whatever that dragons 12hr tick percentage still stays and then you get like .25% per hour or whatever of actually moving around and playing the game

agile edge
#

Yeah that could work

#

That would help those with jobs, school, etc catch up to those who can get the 2 ticks per day

red musk
faint rose
red musk
#

you remember within a week or month maybe? Xd

naive otter
#

@red musk here you go

faint rose
faint rose
#

So yeah, more lies/deliberate misleading, really doesn't feel great

#

Forgive some of us for being intensely salty about this entire thing

finite onyx
somber shuttle
#

Its going to be changed anyways

agile edge
#

I wish we got confirmation if we need to keep our E BL elders (or near elder) dragons and wait for the update. If I won’t be at a disadvantage, I really want to yeet my 28% 15E ASD lol

mint tulip
#

... so we must... BONK THE MOOOONNN!!!!

cosmic river
slender arrow
agile edge
mint tulip
#

all the craters are bonk impact sites of dragons past

agile edge
#

Imagine targeting the moon actually was it. Lmao. No wonder no one figured it out imsdLOL

mint tulip
#

i know right? XD

sharp dawn
faint rose
sharp dawn
#

That's true

#

Does seem to have something to do with time still though with the moon reference

#

Maybe you need to do something during night?

torn peak
sharp dawn
#

Lol

torn peak
#

im not sure

#

mb just be alive 1 full day and on a next morning will see changes dunno

dense current
slender arrow
dense current
#

Yea but then its just passive again

little flax
#

Is it kill? I read it as seek again

#

Maybe a bunch of elders gathering under the moon

dense current
#

Perhaps

little flax
#

Elder party

dense current
#

But then there is the issue of it not being a soloable thing

slender arrow
#

Become that what you seek

#

Kill that which you become

#

Under the moon you will fine your self

finite onyx
little flax
#

Hmm I'm skeptical about the kill bit still ;.;

torn peak
dense current
finite onyx
torn peak
dense current
finite onyx
torn peak
#

xDDDD

dense current
#

Yea im just gonna block the troll behaviour KEKW

torn peak
torn peak
#

do it

finite onyx
#

Idk admin is just working when I'm pinging him

torn peak
#

that a perfect idea

finite onyx
#

I'm the bad guy

#

Hello

cosmic river
#

they didnt ping the dev

finite onyx
#

Tf is that, never saw this on DC ...

cosmic river
little flax
#

It's when you reply

finite onyx
#

Yk what

#

I hope all your elders dies

little flax
#

If you reply without clicking tge option it pings

torn peak
little flax
#

Vs

dense current
#

Also if you’re on computer holding shift while replying auto turns off the ping!

torn peak
little flax
torn peak
finite onyx
agile edge
#
  1. Become that which you seek
  2. SEEK that which you've BECOME

  3. # # # # THE moon you'll FIND yourself again

Avoid the moon
Watch the moon
Check the moon
Enjoy the moon
Shoot the moon
Chase the moon
Learn the moon
Study the moon
Under the moon

Thoughts? peponote

restive granite
agile edge
#

Yeah that’s a good one too

torn peak
agile edge
#

lol

#

It needs to be 5 letters

faint rose
#

BOINK the moon

agile edge
#

There is a reason why the # vary in length in the original msg. It was intended to represent letters ^^

#

Unless it’s to try and throw us off the trail

#

I’d need to find the original msg but wasn’t “Become that which you seek, so that you can seek what you’ve become” 1 hint/step before? Now it’s broken into 2 steps?

tardy perch
#

Oooo a new clue. though dang he confirmed he's changing it anyway. Ah well...hopefully 1.0.1 is soon then lol

slender arrow
#

Maybe it’s become killer die

#

And then wait a full in game day to unlock it ?

mint tulip
#

eager for more food and stuff then elder stuff but yes

#

i hope it won't be too hard to deal with the swamp turtles

stray notch
stray notch
#

he is talking like its a riddle or smth

#

like we got the ability to become what we seek

#

THE ONLY G***MN THING I COULD DO IN THIS GAME IS EATING BUGS

zealous urchin
#

Become that which you seek, Kill that which youve become, under the moon youll grow yourself again?

#

Maybe you have to kill an elder of same species

#

idk

mint tulip
#

nope no pvp involved

sharp dawn
#

Pretty sure step 2 is offing the elder you grew with step 1

#

Which isn't pvp

slender arrow
#

Cool so after having elder after dying after growing back to adult staying on for a full night cycle yelling at the moon running at the moon spiting at the moon telling the moon I have a crush on it flirting with the moon after playing epic music in the background nothing happen it’s now day time and I wasted 2 hours of my life so rip 🪦

heavy ridge
#

Why hash out the three letter word before moon. There's no reason to hide it if it's just "the", right?

#

Alternatively, it could just as easily be "avoid the moon"

finite onyx
slender arrow
dusk ravine
#

its not underhanded to not give us this answer. It is just a desire to see people waste their time without enough useful information.

slender arrow
#

I don’t understand

#

If the system is changing why give us riddles lol 😂

last minnow
#

if the entire class fails a test thats on the teacher

#

same could be applied here

acoustic holly
#

There are ways to do it currently but since we haven’t figured it out due to step 1 delays, changing it to something more active all around is better anyways.

mint tulip
#

still would be cool to just tell us what it used to be

#

or i should say currently is

last minnow
#

yall i hit 100% "elder" on flaming falls but it didnt give me a point or change the calls to elder, do i gotta wait till tomorrow?

heavy ridge
#

I like riddles. I'm having fun slamming my head against it for at least a day or two.
He'll likely spill soon enough

heavy ridge
last minnow
proper patio
#
  1. Become that which you seek
  2. SEEK that which you've BECOME
  3. AFTER THE moon you'll FIND yourself again

It kinda just sounds like a fancy way to say it's just a fully passive system. You seek elder and become one, your elder dies (whether PvP or "naturally" like nesting or starving/bug), then the cycle repeats itself because you just passive elder again via ticks...

cunning matrix
#

99% sure its lose notseek

#

the only issue with it being time related is time is client sided and can be very easily manipulated

sharp dawn
#

unless its based on server time? There used to be a bug where people could change time of day by changing their windows time locally. it got patched

languid trout
#

A few other words that can fit the five letter blank. Usurp, fight, marry, perch, watch, tithe, thank, orbit, feast, hoard, quest, and honor would all fit depending on context of the final requirement. Would “the” be worth censoring or could it be something else

#

Would be funny if it was “egg” moon

mint tulip
#

breed?

#

breed the moon

languid trout
#

Keeping options open

sharp dawn