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#New Elder System
misty galleon
sly cedar
Yeah. I stopped playing because there's nothing to do atm. Lol nesting does not do it for me and currently there's nothing more to explore. So I will wait for more prominent updates.
misty galleon
ive been reacking my brain all day for dragony things but the only things i can think of is things we've all tried
lucid blaze
maybe it's been implemented, but not activated or something xD
misty galleon
nine times out of ten its hidden behind a rock until the blitz drops
pliant yoke
Its frustrating how rhino still didnt appear
rapid radish
Our Princess 💜
mint tulip
they have him locked away in a tower guarded by dragons
tall fossil
has anyone tried collecting a lot of bugs in 5 mins (thats the despawn timer i think) and putting them in one spot? Ik theyre kinda campable but im out of ideas
rapid radish
I think I saw a screenshot of this at some point 😅
mild smelt
any new things?
tall fossil
i just logged on my IR for a tick, i had 1,8 but now gotten the tick and i have 3,6
ah nvm i am on 2speed serv
balmy moss
has anyone tried collecting a lot of bugs in 5 mins (thats the despawn timer i t...
Most I've had was like 5 before they kept despawning.
pulsar swift
We were 2 people and managed 11 bugs at the most
devout kettle
😔
I see we've gotten nowhere
Well, by we i mean you guys. I gave up on like day 3
tough urchin
There's a first step that unlocks the eldering process, but how do we know if its unlocked? What if someone has already unlocked it and just doesn't know it xD
rapid radish
That is the question I'm gonna ask Jao, if he come to this chat again :p
tough urchin
Smart, it would be weird if there wasnt any sign that proves youve unlocked it :3
carmine ivy
I have heard that the elder system is in the game, but it's not activated. According to data-miners.
Those who have hit elder, don't get their elder mutation points. Has this been confirmed/debunked?
rapid radish
they have, it just have taken them one more elder tick, bc of hidden decimals
carmine ivy
they have, it just have taken them one more elder tick, bc of hidden decimals
Meaning 25% elder doesn't necessarily give you that 4th point, correct?
rapid radish
it does
carmine ivy
I think that's how the eldering is meant to work, according to admins you hit 25% elder you get 4th point.
Oh, well folks may be cappin' on my server then, that's... refreshing...
rapid radish
but I mean with hidden decimals, that although the game shows 25%, it can be something like 24.96% in reality
you get 1 point every 25% elder growth
tall fossil
I think if you had 24.9999 it would still show up as 24
proper patio
I have heard that the elder system *is* in the game, but it's not activated. Acc...
That's a fair thought. It's been stated that it's in the game, but not confirmed it's actually accessible.
I'm just so hung up on this first step and fresh out of ideas 😅
carmine ivy
That's a fair thought. It's been stated that it's in the game, but not confirmed...
That's the latest I've heard as well.
rapid radish
I think if you had 24.9999 it would still show up as 24
I think the game uses math the correct way and would round the 24.99% up 😄 At least that is suggested by getting the point after the next tick after the 25%
burnt sphinx
I think if you had 24.9999 it would still show up as 24
can confirm XP Bar rounds up visual on ASD
floral bluff
I'm just so hung up on this first step and fresh out of ideas 😅
It sounds to me as if one has to become an elder through passive ticking first. No clue what is to be done after that, but just thinking that because in (I think?) his latest hint he mentions we must become what we seek. Right?
Not sure where exactly in the docs to find that quote but I recall it rather distinctly
balmy moss
It sounds to me as if one has to become an elder through passive ticking first. ...
That's actually one of the earliest hints, but yes
balmy moss
Easy just have jao tell me what it is and I'll give ya'll hints.
slender arrow
I
balmy moss
I dont have a voice
slender arrow
Listen if jeo gives us a hint I’ll buy the 200 dollar 💵 gold skin with in the next 24 hours
So help me god
balmy moss
Bribes! Shame on you
lucid blaze
Listen if jeo gives us a hint I’ll buy the 200 dollar 💵 gold skin with in the n...
Same
slender arrow
Bribes! Shame on you
Desperate times calls for desperate measures
lucid blaze
Heard!
pliant yoke
@balmy moss go ping him
slender arrow
Lmfao 🤣
balmy moss
silence
pliant yoke
Its ur turn
lucid blaze
"the sound of silence"
slender arrow
Nothing gonna happen
lucid blaze
and @civic merlin was never heard from again xD
pliant yoke
Highground7
balmy moss
I'm not part of this
lucid blaze
good job but, think you forgot to mention why xD
pliant yoke
No why didnt u add a message like gives us a hint
Ig u have to ping him again so he can see
slender arrow
Edit your message
It’s like asking dad for 5 dollars
While his working lmfao 🤣
jagged stone
Ask and ye shall receive.
First step to unlock Elder is to naturally grow to Elder
balmy moss
Thank you rhino!!
slender arrow
Someone screenshot that I’m gonna hang it on my wall
pliant yoke
But tysm for the hint rhino
balmy moss
But now we know. No doubts
slender arrow
Ask and ye shall receive.
First step to unlock Elder is to naturally grow to Eld...
Please sir don’t change it ….its fair and grinding!!! How it should be
balmy moss
All the hints lead to it, but I didn't want to believe. I will say that I was wrong. I just was doubtful about reaching elder.
slender arrow
Everyone told me I was wrong I freaken new that was the way
pliant yoke
And pinged him lmao
slender arrow
I told everyone on here
pliant yoke
Pinging rhino is always a risk
slender arrow
Nah dude is cool like that
balmy moss
But the theory is not over. We still need to figure out the process. Best of luck everyone!!
balmy moss
@rough root
slender arrow
All the hints lead to it, but I didn't want to believe. I will say that I was wr...
I been
somber shuttle
I really hope it changes with Blitz. Logging once a day for months is painfully not worth grinding . I really didnt think that would be it
pliant yoke
But what are the next steps.
balmy moss
Telling everyone on this
Yes rusty, you were right. I just didn't want to put all my eggs in the same basket.
rough root
<@200302134393044993>
Much like we thought then xD
somber shuttle
Is it only eldering one species to unlock active eldering?
pliant yoke
Is it only eldering one species to unlock active eldering?
We dont know
slender arrow
Become elder
pliant yoke
Yea how did we not get it
rough root
Mate we've been on that for a long time. We were all right.
balmy moss
Tbh the time-frame threw alot of people off
pliant yoke
Probs next thing is u grow normally
rough root
It's even in the docs that one of the ongoing theories was to hit elder.
somber shuttle
I spent weeks exploring the entire map to look for some cool eldering method...
At least most of my dragons are almost there anyway lol
rough root
Didn't however stop us from trying out other things.
pliant yoke
I spent weeks exploring the entire map to look for some cool eldering method...
I even said it cant be map related cus we're gonna have more maps and maybe even mod maps
jagged stone
who guessed the first step? 🤚
somber shuttle
Right but some sort of action or series of actions, I tried all the things XD So many hours
slender arrow
who guessed the first step? 🤚
I did and Toto
I been saying to everyone
Read the hint
Become that what you seek
jagged stone
the first step is always the hardest one to take
pliant yoke
So that means the next ones are easier
balmy moss
More like horsepill lol
slender arrow
It’s fair it takes long time but it makes it so
pliant yoke
Can we get any hints on the next steps?
slender arrow
Not everyone has elder right away at least for PvP it’s good
balmy moss
I'm fine with it
rough root
Actually Rusty. You were late
pliant yoke
Anything we have to look out for?
rough root
A lot of us in here thought that hitting elder was first
slender arrow
Actually Rusty. You were late
I been saying it since the hint came out
rough root
I been saying it since the hint came out
So have we dear xD
slender arrow
A lot of us in here thought that hitting elder was first
A lot more dunked on me for it
pliant yoke
Thats gonna take a lot of time
rough root
I think it was your attitude dear. But... most of us in here believed it.
pliant yoke
Might even sacrifice mine
slender arrow
I think it was your attitude dear. But... most of us in here believed it.
Lmfao because I was right
pliant yoke
Once i have one
rough root
As soon as the hint came out we literally said "So... Elder?:
somber shuttle
I just thought It was going to be more gameplay related, and not just logging in for months. I didnt count it out, but I was hoping that wasnt it lol
slender arrow
Don’t remember ever seeing you say anything on here about it
balmy moss
Asd is the fastest. So how long for it?
tall fossil
and will it work per species or server
pliant yoke
and will it work per species or server
Good question,,we dont know
slender arrow
It's been a theory since the hint came out.
Never seen you on here saying elder is the first step
Everyone here keep saying no it’s not lol 😂
That’s why I was arguing with everyone lol 😂
rough root
There are plenty on here, including me who has voiced the idea it could be it. However I have not hoped it would be.
tall fossil
i scanned the whole chat a while ago (yes im crazy) and a lot of people, inlcuding me, thought it was growing to elder
we just didnt wanna believe it
upbeat igloo
I’m sorry but I am smiling at how obvious it was lmao
I was growing my derg to elder to see if that was it and boom. It is.
rough root
We have also been encouraging those who reached elder, to look for anything.
slender arrow
There are plenty on here, including me who has voiced the idea it could be it. H...
You may have voice your idea 💡 but I put all my eggs on the idea that it was elder that was the first step
It’s all good tho
He told us the first step
So we don’t need to debate the first step
Let’s talk about the following steps
rough root
No. Nor who found it out. A lot of us did.
tall fossil
most of us were on the same page
but some of us were in denial
rough root
Some were, yes.
rapid belfry
Wait we got told?
tall fossil
yea
rough root
We got told one of our theories were correct
pliant yoke
Tbh the most legendary person here rn is @civic merlin
summer arch
My guy rusty is a believer
pliant yoke
Who asked for a hint
rough root
And apologies, I am big believer in being just. And seeing one person claim right tends to make my blood boil.
ANYWAY
summer arch
He has been religiously passive eldering all his dragons ever since that hint
rough root
Do. One of our three ongoing theories were right.
slender arrow
My guy rusty is a believer
Crow said one of our theories I stood on that theory since 1
rough root
SourPatch forever.
pliant yoke
They even said they spun themself first
rough root
He has been religiously passive eldering all his dragons ever since that hint
So have I because of it xD
A few in here has.
tall fossil
the eldering doc needs an update
rough root
Though. With all the elders we have in here, we sadly do not know what NOW happens.
balmy moss
Just wow
rough root
I have written it out. And in the docs. So unless they were deleted? Nah.
rapid belfry
Bro all it took was pinging him
somber shuttle
Sadly it takes out the desire to explore the map and play like a dragon... Its just logging/growing sim 😭 I was hoping once we found it the servers would fill back up. Ive been playing solo for weeks cause my clan stopped playing
jagged stone
I will also add that if you admin grow to juvi/adult then try to passive elder, it won't work
rough root
Indeed
rapid belfry
Ohhhhhh
jagged stone
rapid belfry
So if you hit elder naturally then after itll unlock the second step?
balmy moss
Good.
summer arch
And apologies, I am *big* believer in being just. And seeing one person claim ri...
make sense, thank you for also being a believer
rough root
Thank you for confirming one of our three theories @jagged stone - we have a few in here who are already narural elders.
rapid belfry
Narurual
rough root
NARURAL
pliant yoke
Narururual
rapid belfry
NARURURURURRURL ELDERS
balmy moss
Narwhal?
pliant yoke
NARURUURURURUAL ELDERERRS
rapid belfry
NARURURURRUU ELDERS
tall fossil
NAAAAAAR
pliant yoke
NAAAARURURURAL ELDERERERERS
somber shuttle
I was grown against my will NOOOOOO 😂
Yeah thank you for telling us Jao. We were down to single digit brain cells in here
agile edge
Glad the first step is confirmed. RIP to those with alts + jobs. Can only get 1 tick a day 
rapid belfry
Oh no
rough root
Time to finish the last elders.
balmy moss
Not oit of the woods yet
rough root
Just knowing which one is right is lovely.
rapid belfry
My sanity thanks you jao
hot ferry
XD yeah I won't be eldering
rapid belfry
Fr tho thank you ❤️
hot ferry
Life is too busy
pliant yoke
Okay thats so true, but cant we just go on a 2x boosted server and grow asd?
rough root
And... I'm sorry. But we have completed the first step but are still going HUH with the next step
somber shuttle
Well the goal was definitely to make elders more rare
rough root
Prepare for more insanity dears.
balmy moss
Whos gonna off their elder first? Lol
pliant yoke
Me
compact kindle
Is there confirmed to be a next step? What could a next step be if youve reached eldered, youre done, youre an elder now 
tall fossil
do we even have to kill them?
balmy moss
do we even have to kill them?
We dont know
pliant yoke
Be quiet guys, the god of dragons is typing
tall fossil
does it unlock per species?
jagged stone
I'm honestly paying close attention to that, on one hand I removed camping and made it available to everyone, on the other I made them more rare like in Lore, but I also have to keep in mind the time commitment and that some people will not even bother with endgame if it takes too much time. So I may tweak the system to try to keep it rareish, keep it from being camped, but also make it more accessible to casual gamers who can't play as much.
rough root
I want to just say.... team effort on finding this out you all who have participated in this and the theory crafting. I'm proud of ya'll (especially the ones who have actively been aiding in the journey, you know who you are)
rapid belfry
Tysm jao 🙂
balmy moss
I'm just a wall man
somber shuttle
I log as often as I can, but I work 12-15 hour days so most of the time its home and straight to bed
rough root
Thank you Jao, for keeping an eye on things and an open mind to always make the game better 
balmy moss
Just here to have people bounce ideas off of me
pliant yoke
I'll sacrifice my elder for yall once i grew one (itll never happen because itd take ages)
rapid belfry
Yeah it turned smiff into a wall uh @jagged stone can you….turn him back? (This is a joke)
Smiff don’t worry buddy you’ll be a dragon again soon
agile edge
I play 6+ hours a day. I just am working when the first tick rolls around.
pliant yoke
I dont think we should ping him too often
rough root
And believe you all me, the docs shall be updated (once I get home from work. Train writing on phone)
rapid belfry
Actually smiff you’re not a brick wall anymore turn back
SMIFF
Turn back
We know the first step buddy were out of the woods
pliant yoke
Smiff stay a brick wall, we still have to know the next steps
jagged stone
I took today off so I'm just chatting before grabbing lunch
rapid belfry
Awe enjoy!
rough root
What's for lunch?
rapid belfry
Where you grabbing- damnit crow
rough root
Y'know what fair
summer arch
are we talking a good ol blt
jagged stone
I need a day off before I go jumping in to 1.0.1
balmy moss
What flavor?
pliant yoke
Can you please tell us one thing rhino, do we have to sacrifice our elders as next step?
rapid belfry
I get you you guys have been working hard
turbid copper
So, after the first step do you get something that you unlocked the process? 
slender arrow
I'm honestly paying close attention to that, on one hand I removed camping and m...
I say keep it passive maybe fine a way to change it in pve because I’m pvp if you make it to easy we’re gonna have the biggest clans with a bunch of elders
finite onyx
I'm honestly paying close attention to that, on one hand I removed camping and m...
Bro we have nothing else to do in this game than nesting and eldering atm on pvp, you just killed whole community with that kinda -.-
jagged stone
tuna salad
rough root
You did good Jao. The fixed skins and sss look great
rustic quiver
if you can just do passiv ticks, you removed 80% of the pvp out of the game
rapid belfry
Yeah cause if people suddenly dive into sacrificing elders the first step will be redone all over again
jagged stone
You did good Jao. The fixed skins and sss look great <:PurpleHeart:9011312825101...
thx
summer arch
I do like me tuna salad, great choice
rapid belfry
Yeah you and the team did awesome!!!
Tuna salad sammich. Now im gonna go make one..
rough root
Well, at least he listens to people's concerns, in that he may tweak it. It's a delicate balance.
slender arrow
Bro we have nothing else to do in this game than nesting and eldering atm on pvp...
So you want clans to have 40 elders ? lol 😆
pliant yoke
Yeah cause if people suddenly dive into sacrificing elders the first step will b...
Yea we need to know if we needa sacrifice em or not, i aint growing an elder, sacrificing it, hoping itll unlock eldering normal and then finding out it didnt work
rapid belfry
Can we get this one answer jao? So we don’t have to restart? Is it unaliving our elders..?
finite onyx
So you want clans to have 40 elders ? lol 😆
You wanna passive tick every single time ?
upbeat igloo
Am curious though, does it unlock only on that dragon that you’ve passively eldered or is it unlocked for all?
rapid belfry
LOL
summer arch
You wanna passive tick every single time ?
bro you dont once you elder lol
rapid belfry
https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-sandwich-dogs-dog-lunch-gif-16290238
Jao rn confirmed
pliant yoke
Yep
tall fossil
Can we get this one answer jao? So we don’t have to restart? Is it unaliving our...
and is the method unlocking per spieces?
rough root
I like that they're rarer. But I do feel for the ones who has to work a lot for example.
rustic quiver
So you want clans to have 40 elders ? lol 😆
the better clan will have more elders , its the best in pvp
rapid belfry
Alright yall lets go bug hunting time to sacrifice our elders
robust crypt
pliant yoke
Can someone pls sacrifice an elder?
rapid belfry
Nah everyone does it together
slender arrow
You wanna passive tick every single time ?
No but I want it so it’s rare and when you become one you can change the fight on PvP you make it easy again we’re gonna have another beta we’re clans send 67 elders after 1 adult
rough root
I'm still of the belief that hitting elder makes a more active method available on your other dragons (including your elder if it dies)
pliant yoke
Yes can someone pls sacrifice an elder
slender arrow
the better clan will have more elders , its the best in pvp
Lmfao the better numbers we’ll have more elders
rough root
Noone has tried looking on their other dragons, only on their elder or with an elder so far.
slender arrow
the better clan will have more elders , its the best in pvp
Clan of 10 vs a clan of 40 with elders what happens ?
finite onyx
No but I want it so it’s rare and when you become one you can change the fight o...
With the ss buff all other dragons are way more fragile, and also it's not ultra hard to kill an elder
rustic quiver
Clan of 10 vs a clan of 40 with elders what happens ?
uk servers are not that bad
finite onyx
But it's Gona take hella amount of time to passive tick it
restive granite
https://tenor.com/view/scooby-doo-sandwich-dogs-dog-lunch-gif-16290238
The ice cream won't HELP 😭 🤣
rustic quiver
Clan of 10 vs a clan of 40 with elders what happens ?
just 80% of the pvp game is removed now lol
no progs to jump, nothing
finite onyx
It can be maybe nice on PvE servers but on pvp idk xd
rough root
We have the timeframes it would take to hit elder on all species in le docs
umbral spruce
all these lovely spoilers about eldering only for it to be passive.. dogpoop.
slender arrow
just 80% of the pvp game is removed now lol
Can y’all not PvP with out elder ?
rough root
If you hit all ticks.
rustic quiver
Can y’all not PvP with out elder ?
we can but its more funny with , and you can turn outnumbers fight.
on elders you can turn 10v20
we did it already
rapid belfry
Yall let the man relax
rough root
Jao IS on his day off 
upbeat igloo
Honestly thought PvP would be more interesting with the whole “must stay alive to reach elder” business
finite onyx
Can y’all not PvP with out elder ?
I wanna see you actually passive ticking an FS
rough root
Let him enjoy his sammich.
slender arrow
we can but its more funny with , and you can turn outnumbers fight.
on elders yo...
With 1 elder you turned a fight around with 20 clan of elders is what your telling me ?
rustic quiver
With 1 elder you turned a fight around with 20 clan of elders is what your telli...
with 5-8 elders yes 🙂
rustic quiver
good old SNACK times
slender arrow
with 5-8 elders yes 🙂
Yeah of course lmfao
agile edge
all these lovely spoilers about eldering only for it to be passive.. dogpoop.
The method seems to be more focused around PvP servers and balancing them and less on PvE. :/
proper patio
I'm still of the belief that hitting elder makes a more active method available ...
I want to believe this too. Account unlock instead of by species. Otherwise I don't have time for the harder ones... 50+ days 😵💫
rustic quiver
Yeah of course lmfao
you dont have to trust me 🙂
rapid radish
@rough root , Serious did check on their other dragons after hitting elder on the ASD, but they didn't notice anything
summer arch
we did it already
so did we with 6 dragons against the biggest clan in uk5 back then
finite onyx
Yeah of course lmfao
I wanna see people quiting game because they were passive ticking an FS for 50 days and then loosing it to 3-5 SS xd
slender arrow
you dont have to trust me 🙂
I trust you you guys are PvP gods teach me
finite onyx
Watch them doing it again
lone quail
I trust you you guys are PvP gods teach me
Lmaooo
umbral spruce
The method seems to be more focused around PvP servers and balancing them and le...
yes, and currently the only thing to do on pve is nesting which is honestly boring.
upbeat igloo
<@200302134393044993> , Serious did check on their other dragons after hitting e...
Oh boy. Long road ahead? 😅
rustic quiver
I trust you you guys are PvP gods teach me
uf. stop talking like this pls
rapid radish
Also THANK YOU JAO for hopping in on our madness on your day off and confirming our theory! 🙏
umbral spruce
what elders? lmao
rough root
<@200302134393044993> , Serious did check on their other dragons after hitting e...
Thank you dear.
tall fossil
yes, and currently the only thing to do on pve is nesting which is honestly bori...
i like nesting but would love to have other stuff to do as well
slender arrow
I wanna see people quiting game because they were passive ticking an FS for 50 d...
With the hit box’s iv yet to lose my fs at 35 % elder to SS
rapid radish
Thank you dear.
Doesn't mena it's not unlocked for them, but at least they didn't notice anything different 🤔
agile edge
yes, and currently the only thing to do on pve is nesting which is honestly bori...
I’m ok with the nesting, but yeah. I’d like an eldering activity so I can keep up with all the kids that play all day. Lol
rough root
Please stay on track people. This is not the pvp chat.
finite onyx
With the hit box’s iv yet to lose my fs at 35 % elder to SS
Just wait couple years more and they fix it dw
pliant yoke
Sacrifice
Your
Elders
umbral spruce
be quiet veosk
slender arrow
I wanna see people quiting game because they were passive ticking an FS for 50 d...
The beauty of PvP only the strong make it
rapid belfry
Someone try starving
tall fossil
Sacrifice
Your
Elders
instead of that, maybe check your other dragons to see if its per species
pliant yoke
Yea i meant after that
rough root
It may very well be species specific.
tall fossil
like, we still need to find the method
upbeat igloo
The next question is, if reaching elder is the first step and the hardest, the second step is medium difficulty? Mayhaps?
rapid belfry
Mayhaps
finite onyx
The beauty of PvP only the strong make it
Ye have fun xd
slender arrow
The next question is, if reaching elder is the first step and the hardest, the s...
He said reaching the first step was the hardest
finite onyx
I hope you enjoy it
upbeat igloo
He said reaching the first step was the hardest
Yes. I know.
tall fossil
The next question is, if reaching elder is the first step and the hardest, the s...
the rest is cool
rustic quiver
it will be stressfull to have 18 x5 elder partys at the same time
slender arrow
Ye have fun xd
Listen no matter what I still love you
rough root
I WOULD like to ask Jao... though I dare not ping. If natural growth still counts for the 2x servers.
hot jasper
I need a day off before I go jumping in to 1.0.1
How is 1.0.1 coming?
proper patio
I WOULD like to ask Jao... though I dare not ping. If natural growth still count...
A great question 🤔
tall fossil
i think its normal growth, or getting % for doing things like flying, hunting etc
slender arrow
it will be stressfull to have 18 x5 elder partys at the same time
I’m not sure but I also think once you reach the first step or unlock the elder method I think it’s unlocked for ever so you don’t have to always passive elder
summer arch
I hope you enjoy it
we do ty for your concern
rapid belfry
How is 1.0.1 coming?
LEAVE HIM ALONE
upbeat igloo
Sped up growth seems “not normal”… if that makes sense
hot jasper
We’re not getting an eta, I know that much
rapid belfry
he came in here to be nice and hint us on his DAY OFF
finite onyx
I’m not sure but I also think once you reach the first step or unlock the elder ...
That's sounds like it's a dream lol xd
summer arch
i dont think so
slender arrow
That's sounds like it's a dream lol xd
Hey we don’t know
finite onyx
we do ty for your concern
Nice
slender arrow
Tell we try
tall fossil
Sped up growth seems “not normal”… if that makes sense
but its also not command growth so who knows
summer arch
the reason why me and rusty believed it was passive is based on previous unlock system like the mela
you unlock the skin once then its on all dragons on the server
upbeat igloo
but its also not command growth so who knows
Hence the keyword of “seems”.
I could be spit balling here
rapid belfry
I doubt he likes being harassed with questions after the fact
summer arch
we believe its the same for eldering
slender arrow
That's sounds like it's a dream lol xd
Can you agree tho that if that is the case then it’s not so bad ?
finite onyx
the reason why me and rusty believed it was passive is based on previous unlock ...
We all kinda knew it's either not in game or passive xd
tall fossil
you unlock the skin once then its on all dragons on the server
yeah!
finite onyx
Can you agree tho that if that is the case then it’s not so bad ?
Imagine spawning on elders
Sounds so fun NGL
rough root
And so did plenty in here. It just wasn't something we could swiftly prove, hence other tests while we grew our passives.
slender arrow
Imagine spawning on elders
No not spawning
rapid belfry
Bro we did ALOT
rough root
I know me, Iso, spaceexplorer, Techno and Sour each have been growing the passives.
upbeat igloo
Imagine spawning on elders
Easy. Deathmatch servers lmao
rough root
And ATHENAAA
slender arrow
Like you unlock the elder way then you die and then when you grow you. Can elder the right way
fast geyser
we shoudl try all the crystal theories AGAIN but with elders xD
somber shuttle
tall fossil
XDDDD
finite onyx
we shoudl try all the crystal theories AGAIN but with elders xD
Xd
compact kindle
we shoudl try all the crystal theories AGAIN but with elders xD
funny as it is, it has actually been done again with elders already
somber shuttle
Im excited to see how the active works now. Almost passive eldered, now to test everything again for active lmao
upbeat igloo
I just realised I gotta restart my progress as I grew myself…. Whoops
rapid belfry
IS there an active method? Do we know that for sure or is it just passive?
summer arch
IS there an active method? Do we know that for sure or is it just passive?
my guy lmao
rough root
Im excited to see how the active works now. Almost passive eldered, now to test ...
Same here, and I'm ready to die xD
somber shuttle
Well as far as we know, the first step was the way to unlock active eldering
rapid belfry
VEOSK?
pliant yoke
It was @civic merlin
pliant yoke
Wasnt me
rapid belfry
SIGHTS ON VEOSK
pliant yoke
rapid belfry
GET SCHMUCKED ON
pliant yoke
I promise u it was sourpatchkid
rapid belfry
SUUUREEE
rapid belfry
Prove it screenshot ur emotes
pliant yoke
Hear me out
finite onyx
Gameplay after reaching 18A:
- Log in
2 passive tick
3 set 12 h timer
4 log out
rapid belfry
2 and a quarter
rough root
Well. Good thing is that we can continue. Several of us already almost have elders.
rustic quiver
Gameplay after reaching 18A:
1. Log in
2 passive tick
3 set 12 h timer
4 log o...
its time to by my clanmembers nitro for 4 months so they can tick all my acounts
rapid belfry
Im jk love ya veosk lol
pliant yoke
rapid belfry
I knew where that was going
pliant yoke
Im jk love ya veosk lol
Love you too sinnoh
rapid belfry
Mmmmmmmm
slender arrow
Gameplay after reaching 18A:
1. Log in
2 passive tick
3 set 12 h timer
4 log o...
What method do you propose? Mushrooms? That clan can camp
pliant yoke
What method do you propose? Mushrooms? That clan can camp
No mushrooms they said
finite onyx
What method do you propose? Mushrooms? That clan can camp
More funny
slender arrow
More funny
No, I’m being serious like what method would you propose?
fast geyser
What method do you propose? Mushrooms? That clan can camp
get a buff for staying alive in a fitting enviroment for your species and get that buff weakens when you get out of that zone over time until its gone again
slender arrow
get a buff for staying alive in a fitting enviroment for your species and get th...
That’s fair
fast geyser
and like active play time not just logging in once and then go again
somber shuttle
I was hoping for either an NPC spawn, maybe some sort of boss. Or a series of actions that would maybe spawn something, could even be a client side spawn so nobody else can see it/ camp it
rapid radish
Well maybe those are the next steps? 😅
fast geyser
would also be cool since clans on pvp would also more focus on some species since they fit to their teritorry
somber shuttle
Or active play. A certain distance traveled, or damage amount done to proc a tic
rough root
Quite so
somber shuttle
We will see once we know what to do with our passive elders
rough root
Indeed so. We have already been trying and ruling out a few things with them, especially thanks to Serious.
finite onyx
No, I’m being serious like what method would you propose?
Something that not require logging in 50 days into the game xd
rough root
A good thing he said he is considering tweaking it then.
Well. Now we continue with what we were already doing.
rapid radish
Yeah, the second step 😄 Is it sacrificing your elder or something else 😄
rough root
Species specific unlock or nah xD
rapid radish
I hope it's "nah" xD
slender arrow
Something that not require logging in 50 days into the game xd
Think about Legacy for a second back in Legacy. It was so easy to elder that you could do it within 28 hours if you were efficient everyone had elder it was so bad that people in my clan with elder Alabama babies just for fun Becoming something so strong should be a grinding process because a good player with an elder could turn the tide of a battle at least for PVP so elder should be a rare thing if you manage to reach Elder amongst all the fighting then you deserve it but I don’t think it should be an easy thing at least for PVP
rough root
I'm just glad that we were right with one of our earliest theories. Who knows if the others are right too, just different steps.
finite onyx
Think about Legacy for a second back in Legacy. It was so easy to elder that you...
eThen now imagine that big clans on us where every single person have 5 alt accounts is gona passive tick it and not fighting with all the dragosn until they get to elder. At some point at the same time they get 4 elders xd. If peopel are motivated enaught and start to passive tick everything at the same time, at some point they get all the elders at the same day. Then how you wanna push out clan like that ?
balmy moss
Now question is when you reach passive elder. Is that dragon locked. Meaning you can't replace it or you will lock the process?
slender arrow
eThen now imagine that big clans on us where every single person have 5 alt acco...
Then you fight on adults and may the best man win At that point at that point it becomes all skill.
rustic quiver
i have 18 accounts, they all will be elder at the same time, this makes nearly 100, at this point i dont cave if 30 die lol
it cant be like this, it makes no sense to do this
limber falcon
Ask and ye shall receive.
First step to unlock Elder is to naturally grow to Eld...
This really sets people back that cannot get on the game every 12 hours. Please change how the passive eldering works or just this step in the process. As someone who works 12 hours a day, this is going to be next to impossible, especially on PvP.
balmy moss
This *really* sets people back that cannot get on the game every 12 hours. *Plea...
He's looking into it
slender arrow
i have 18 accounts, they all will be elder at the same time, this makes nearly 1...
But either method is the same. If you passive elder, you become elder at the same time if you elder through eating mushrooms, you become elder at the same time.
balmy moss
No I want the blue heart
rustic quiver
But either method is the same. If you passive elder, you become elder at the sam...
if i elder through mushroom i can get catched anytime maybe i loose my progs
and some members loose elders because they tried to help me
slender arrow
if i elder through mushroom i can get catched anytime maybe i loose my progs
So you like the mushroom idea?
balmy moss
Ty
rustic quiver
So you like the mushroom idea?
yes because it was pvp
slender arrow
yes because it was pvp
So what happens when you get camped
proper patio
This *really* sets people back that cannot get on the game every 12 hours. *Plea...
If you have ideas for alternatives you can always put them in "feedback & suggestions". Pinging not the best idea. For example I suggested 2 ticks for logging in once every 24 hrs. Easier for folks but doesn't really make eldering easier per say. I hope Jao considers my suggestion 🙏
slender arrow
i can die xd
So what happens when the big clan camps the shrooms and you can’t elder and you can’t play on the server ?
rustic quiver
So what happens when the big clan camps the shrooms and you can’t elder and you ...
rusty... we played at us1 we know this and its possibel
just be smart
do EF
finite onyx
Well maybe for PvE it was bad because people were just sitting at muschrom spawns and you cant do anything with that ,, Who press E faster ,, XD But for PvP it was quite interesting
slender arrow
rusty... we played at us1 we know this and its possibel
You played with another big clan you weren’t in us 1 playing with just you guys
So don’t give me that lol 😆
rustic quiver
You played with another big clan you weren’t in us 1 playing with just you guys
nope
finite onyx
You played with another big clan you weren’t in us 1 playing with just you guys
Same is that you elder on uk5 for free xd,
because none was playign there xd
slender arrow
rusty... we played at us1 we know this and its possibel
Your proving my point tho getting to elder in the old way was way
Even on big server you could do it something that strong shouldn’t be easy to get
rustic quiver
Your proving my point tho getting to elder in the old way was way
we made also elder in the FTC times so its possibel
you just have to me smart
slender arrow
we made also elder in the FTC times so its possibel
Of course
rustic quiver
omg rusty... it makes no sense to argument with you.. you didnt played the last 1 year...
slender arrow
I played on us 1 before you even knew what day of dragons was lmfao
rustic quiver
I played on us 1 before you even knew what day of dragons was lmfao
ofc you got wiped all
proper patio
We also have slid off topic a bit 😅 adjacent, but not THE topic
slender arrow
You were there wow
rustic quiver
You were there wow
i know you wanted to hunt luna and you got clapped that hard 🙂
slender arrow
i know you wanted to hunt luna and you got clapped that hard 🙂
Lmfao 🤣 I’m trash I know
rapid radish
@woven isle @naive oxide @burnt sphinx @minor hinge congratz, you have completed (or almost completed) the first step and uncloked activel eldering; it was confirmed by Jao it is passively eldering. Now go forth and look for the next step xD We don't know if the unlock was server specific like mela skin or is it species specific. 😅
slender arrow
i know you wanted to hunt luna and you got clapped that hard 🙂
We didn’t quit uk 5 your clan killed us all and we got scared and quit
Your right
finite onyx
well idk if its the best way to make the game log in and out progress but for some peopel maybe
summer arch
no rusty shag did
rapid radish
And yes, pls let's get back to the topic, take this convo to general or DMs 🙂
finite onyx
And yes, pls let's get back to the topic, take this convo to general or DMs 🙂
Go away, we busy rn
slender arrow
According to blue I’m a dog water at PvP
rapid radish
<@&577129575423672322> Could you pls check this chat and certain ppl in it, pls
finite onyx
XD
summer arch
check me mod im nice
trail wagon
You need to stay on topic.
rough root
Yes please
rapid radish
And rudeness doesn't help this chat to figure out the next eldering steps
somber shuttle
Has Anybody sacrificed yet? Or grown an elder and tried stuff on another species to see if its unlocked across the board?
rapid radish
But Serious has tried stuff with their other dragons, not sure what tho,
sterile isle
Hey guysss soz I've taken a break what did I miss??
somber shuttle
Hey guysss soz I've taken a break what did I miss??
Jao told us that the first step is passive eldering
sterile isle
pliant yoke
We dont know the nexts yet
somber shuttle
Now we need to decode the rest of the process
fossil thunder
Lmao that’s so funny because we already knew that 🤣😭
rough root
Hey guysss soz I've taken a break what did I miss??
First step has been confirmed. One of our earliest theories that has been worked on was correct
pulsar swift
I have heard that the elder system *is* in the game, but it's not activated. Acc...
I'd like to hear this directly from the dataminers and see some evidence.
sterile isle
Sorry no offense so why did he say no one has done the first step??
next flint
Is this one dragon unlocks all, one of each dragon unlocks all or each dragon you want to elder.
pulsar swift
First step has been confirmed. One of our earliest theories that has been worked...
Wait what???
fossil thunder
So other than eldering by passive, nothing else is there to speed up the process?
carmine ivy
I'd like to hear this directly from the dataminers and see some evidence.
I'll search it up
pliant yoke
Sorry no offense so why did he say no one has done the first step??
He said he THINKS no one has done it yet
rough root
Wait what???
That the first step is passive eldering
pulsar swift
Wait, so he told us its passively elder to 100%?
rapid radish
Is this one dragon unlocks all, one of each dragon unlocks all or each dragon yo...
we don't know that yet
sterile isle
He said he THINKS no one has done it yet
Okay fair enough
somber shuttle
pulsar swift
pliant yoke
We have to passive elder to 100% and then it unlocks the active method
next flint
@rapid radish yeah, I guess we'll see
rapid radish
Sorry no offense so why did he say no one has done the first step??
I don't think he knew that couple of ppl had that
sterile isle
Also that is rlly sad bc that's gonna take me agess
rough root
Now... gonna continue my journey home and update the docs again. Usual daily stuff
sterile isle
I was hoping it would be a bit for of an active effort
next flint
We give free grows to all our members, we're going to have to start from scratch.
carmine ivy
We need to pin all of his hints. I think.
rough root
Also that is rlly sad bc that's gonna take me agess<:waaaah:652039384270635018>
He's looking into tweaking it
sterile isle
Oh that's nice of him
rapid radish
it will be active after the passive 😅
sterile isle
Taking feedback from the community
somber shuttle
Hoping that doing once passively will unlock some sort of active method
for all species
But we dont know yet
rapid radish
yeah, that is the next question
sterile isle
it will be active after the passive 😅
Ik but loykey what is the point if you're already elder at that point😂
pliant yoke
Ngl it should already be passive so that u grow for like 2-3h after adult and then ur elder, thatd be awesome
sterile isle
for all species
I hope you're right
carmine ivy
Ik but loykey what is the point if you're already elder at that point😂
Because you may want to elder more than 1 dragon, I suppose.
sterile isle
So how many of us in here have a passive elder atm? For experimentation purposes
rapid radish
Ik but loykey what is the point if you're already elder at that point😂
Maybe it plays into the whole "sacrifice your elder to get elemental" 🤔
sterile isle
Because you may want to elder more than 1 dragon, I suppose.
True but only if the active method gets unlocked for all species
carmine ivy
At least on pvp it's so very easy to lose elders or near elder. Those of us who play pvp anyway.
rapid radish
So how many of us in here have a passive elder atm? For experimentation purposes
I know 3, Marsin is soon to be 4th
sterile isle
Maybe it plays into the whole "sacrifice your elder to get elemental" 🤔
That is a fair point thinking ahead, but if it's active anyway it wouldn't make a difference
Anyway can someone remind me of the META for passive eldering again pretty plss
pulsar swift
At least on pvp it's so very easy to lose elders or near elder. Those of us who ...
Sir, I play on Dragonborne, I get hunted from BR to southwest corner then on to Sinkhole by basement dwellers who never felt an ounce of love from their parents
Solo pvp server, so getting an elder passively? LMAO nice joke
pulsar swift
Anyway can someone remind me of the META for passive eldering again pretty plss
Log in every 12 hours
sterile isle
Is that per dragon?
pulsar swift
Each dragon has their own timer
So log into fs, get tick, log out, into IR, get tick, out, repeat for SS and ASD, then wait 12h
sterile isle
Ah okay understood thanks guyss
finite onyx
Yep
woven isle
<@309678745302728704> <@277974354409553921> <@569222642050269194> <@456226577798...
ye i saw that
dusk ravine
So, stop playing the game on each account and on each dragon to passively grow to elder over 2 months. Than you can elder dragons... WHY DOES HE NOT WANT US TO PLAY HIS GAME!
agile edge
So, stop playing the game on each account and on each dragon to passively grow t...
That’s why I made a suggestion post for a daily login tick and the rest is a slow growth % based on time spent actually playing the game. With maybe a total daily cap so u can’t speed run it.
vale mortar
who guessed the first step? 🤚
https://tenor.com/view/pussy-cat-cute-kitty-kitten-cat-gif-16800925 Do I get a prize? One leuc code please 
sterile isle
Don't suppose anyone knows if the active method gets unlocked for all servers too? Bc passive eldering on each server might acc end my will to live
proper patio
I doubt it for all servers
covert stag
So it is indeed Passive tick? I did think as much lol. Makes me kinda happy i seem to be the only one left in current server. Once things pick up i shall be king 
vale mortar
I guessed it after the bio hint, I sat there and said its passive ticks isn't it? easy peasy
turbid prawn
I just kept hoping it was a lower % of elder tic like 25 or 50%
slender arrow
I guessed it after the bio hint, I sat there and said its passive ticks isn't it...
I guess it when jeo made his first code of this game
sterile isle
I guessed it after the bio hint, I sat there and said its passive ticks isn't it...
Easy peasy she says💀
vale mortar
nah pretty much already stated it was passive ticks 🤷♀️
rapid radish
or is it?
vale mortar
Easy peasy she says💀
she*
rapid radish
this is when the hint was presented by Mazyday from Patreon chat on 5th of March
hot ferry
Why is this an argument
vale mortar
people can't take a joke
turbid prawn
Now we just need to figure out the active electing method
rapid radish
I'm not arguing, I'm just sick of ppl claiming that the chat wasn't theorizing it right away when we got the hint -.-
You brouht it up 😄
hot ferry
Tbh just ignore them and leave them to their opinions. Doesn't change anything
turbid prawn
We’ve tried all the nesting methods on the current elders correct?
rapid radish
Tbh just ignore them and leave them to their opinions. Doesn't change anything
I know I should, sorry 😅
proper patio
Yes yes, let's hear from folks who are excited to explore next steps!
dusk ravine
Lol all of us who were/are trying to upstat can go F ourselves because we have to throw away old dragons to get more, and we cant see recessives to top it off
turbid prawn
Yes yes, let's hear from folks who are excited to explore next steps!
Meeee
rough root
We’ve tried all the nesting methods on the current elders correct?
Not related to nesting
turbid prawn
Sweet waking up from my hibernation
proper patio
I've got 2 ss that are around 30% and I'm motivated to get them through passives 
turbid prawn
I’m thinking that getting one elder on your account will count towards all because yeah grinding asd is a pain but not punishing
Really hope I don’t have to elder each species individually passively
covert stag
I’m thinking that getting one elder on your account will count towards all becau...
Thats my thought
dusk ravine
Grinding FS/IR is punishing, SS is annoying, ASD is fine.
slender arrow
Really hope I don’t have to elder each species individually passively
Yeah that would suck
turbid prawn
I’ll literally never get it done with my work schedule
Asd I’m getting there about 20% on a pvp server so from a more “casual” player view it’s a grind, but something I still can obtain on asd and ss
rough root
Here's to hoping Hexa. But so far the others have not seen anything out of the ordinary on their other species. We do not know what has been tested however.
slender arrow
Asd I’m getting there about 20% on a pvp server so from a more “casual” player v...
I fight with my elder prog stuff lol it’s fun
turbid prawn
Yeah ;-;
turbid prawn
I fight with my elder prog stuff lol it’s fun
Same lmao
I’ve lost 3 asd elder progs I’d prolly be elder by now if I would just stop being so bitey
Now has one of the lovely elders uhhhhh committed to the ultimate plunge and yeeted the dragon?
To see if doing the various other methods makes their eldering faster?
arctic scarab
so when we hit an elder, and later die, we keep that 1st step on the account at specific dragon ?
rapid radish
so when we hit an elder, and later die, we keep that 1st step on the account at ...
we don't know
proper patio
so when we hit an elder, and later die, we keep that 1st step on the account at ...
That's the hope
turbid prawn
I don’t mind them not testing that part until we exhausted the mela method where one eldering unlocks step 2 for the entire account
slender arrow
I don’t mind them not testing that part until we exhausted the mela method where...
The million dollar question is what do you do after you reach it like do switch to SS and fly around or what lol 😂
turbid prawn
Yeah XD
We can go back to some of the more likely theories that we had early on and have the current eldered players test them out on their non elders
arctic scarab
i think if u for exemple hit an elder on asd u unlock the 1st step, later when ur asd elder die, u have already unlocked the elder progress, the faster way and u must find how to do it.
dusk ravine
Don't worry after you spend 1 month eldering by ticks and you kill that dragon off you can grow to adult to find out new elder system. Which will be ticking every 10hours instead of 12 🙂
arctic scarab
and its just for asd
i think we must elder every dragon passive
to unlock 1st step on every dragon
dusk ravine
This method is fine for PVE players but it is asking PVP players to just not play for a solid month or two
turbid prawn
^^^^^
reef ether
Yeah but do we have to yeet our elders cause I'm sorry farming is ticks are pain
arctic scarab
This method is fine for PVE players but it is asking PVP players to just not pla...
ye, just log in, take ur 12 hours tick and log out
reef ether
Ir
turbid prawn
Yeah but do we have to yeet our elders cause I'm sorry farming is ticks are pain
That’s what we are debating rn
proper patio
This method is fine for PVE players but it is asking PVP players to just not pla...
Even for PvE it's kinda become login, tick, logout, repeat in 12 hours. Nesting isn't as fun as it used to be ..
dusk ravine
@arctic scarab Lets gooo! everyone stop playing for a month so we can elder and playing when blitz is released.
reef ether
Cause sweet lord to elder for over a month and then kill myself for it to do nothing would make me sad
dusk ravine
@proper patio #1219699700727545907 message
arctic scarab
or the game is pushing us to buy secound copy of the game, to just enjoy to play it, and on first copy of the game just farm ticks 😄
turbid prawn
Even nesting if you can’t really get the inherits really nice until 25% as you need to be able to see your recessive traits to nest more easily
dusk ravine
But than you have to tick on second copy so why play
rapid radish
Even for PvE it's kinda become login, tick, logout, repeat in 12 hours. Nesting ...
I think partly, bc we are missing the BW and the breeding system update 🙂
arctic scarab
But than you have to tick on second copy so why play
bc if u play one server, u just need one elder with all dragons avaliable. So buy secound copy of the game, to play it and if u die u wont be mad
dusk ravine
As probably the most experienced breeder here. Don't make upstatting require a dragon you have not release.
proper patio
@dusk ravine ooo ty!!! 💖 (Not sarcasm!)
turbid prawn
So, we’ve exhausted the nesting side of exploring, now for those who have gotten passive elders, have they tried the various other things on their other dragons?
rapid radish
As probably the most experienced breeder here. Don't make upstatting require a ...
the game hasn't fully released yet, so I'm actually quite sure it will be easier once we get to the "breeding patch" ^^
reef ether
Well untill someone yeets a elder don't know how I feel about it
bleak python
I said it was passive tick fully to unlock elder since the hint about “become what you seek” .. No one listened lmao everyone kept going on about how it’s not that and how it’s 25% first. Told ya.
stuck minnow
Didn't Jao say it wasn't nesting related? Nesting and pvp
rough root
Correct
slender arrow
I said it was passive tick fully to unlock elder since the hint about “become wh...
I said the same thing
arctic scarab
this is good for pve servers, but not for pvp
rough root
Now for me to make extra alts to yeet one
turbid prawn
Just saying that we know the current elders explored all the nesting related options on their elders
slender arrow
But people thought laying on a bug and 1 calling was the way
rapid radish
I said the same thing,. but kept an open mind to other theories
proper patio
I said it was passive tick fully to unlock elder since the hint about “become wh...
I think most just didn't want to believe it 😅
covert stag
Who cares about who guessed what first. Need to start thinking about what happens next.
fading canyon
At least we dont have to worry about anything to do with nesting or pvp 😓
dusk ravine
If only I wasn't a breeder I might have an elder dragon by now, but no breeders are hated.
turbid prawn
Listen at one point I remembered jao saying in a video about wanting territories (or im going crazy which is highly likely) so I suggested to attack and spit on trees to “mark” your area lmao
rough root
I said it was passive tick fully to unlock elder since the hint about “become wh...
I listened xD thought the same. But I still pursued other methods while passive growing. Just in case.
bleak python
I’ve also said all the original theories here need to be ran through again, as an elder.
orchid barn
I think most just didn't want to believe it 😅
And rightfully so...
muted moat
ight sanity check
rough root
Indeed ruu
reef ether
At least we dont have to worry about anything to do with nesting or pvp 😓
Yeah now it's onto worrying about having to yeet all our current elders
turbid prawn
At least we have confirmation that we have reached the first step
slender arrow
I’ve also said all the original theories here need to be ran through again, as a...
No don’t join the dark side
fading canyon
Yeah now it's onto worrying about having to yeet all our current elders
XD
turbid prawn
Instead of praying that we were guessing right
rough root
Onwards as always
muted moat
At least we have confirmation that we have reached the first step
wait wha
covert stag
Well my ASD should hit Elder on the weekend so long as i dont miss any ticks
rough root
Indeed Hexa
fading canyon
The only reason part of me thinks its nothing to do with being a full elder, is simply because he said the method was cool, and passive eldering is infact
Uncool
mellow dawn
But that’s only the first step
rapid radish
The only reason part of me thinks its nothing to do with being a full elder, is ...
maybe the active eldering is cool 😅
muted moat
Jao confirmed up above that the first step is reaching passive elder
thats torture but understandable
fading canyon
maybe the active eldering is cool 😅
😭
orchid barn
The second step is "tadala, you are now elder"
turbid prawn
Now we debating if it unlocks just for that species or the entire account
covert stag
The only reason part of me thinks its nothing to do with being a full elder, is ...
I dont think he meant the method is cool just that cool you figured it out
slender arrow
Well my ASD should hit Elder on the weekend so long as i dont miss any ticks
Mine died to the magic fire 🔥 that on your screen the flying dragon is 3 miles away but you burn anyways
turbid prawn
Or maybe active elder is a cool or interesting method
Passive eldering is the real grind
proper patio
He did say the first step is the hardest one to take!
slender arrow
If that’s the hardest
covert stag
Mine died to the magic fire 🔥 that on your screen the flying dragon is 3 miles ...
If you mean by attacked thgen i am safe on the empty server im on lol. It was full when i joined it though.
orchid barn
He did say the first step is the hardest one to take!
Well, only it's not hard. It's just basically don't play pvp at all and pray noone saw where you logged and will set a timer for your next tick
fading canyon
He did say the first step is the hardest one to take!
I think this is mainly true for pvp players, Pve and Dve players really just have to log on, eat then log out
bleak python
It’s not impossible to get on PvP either as long as you pay attention to your surroundings.
fading canyon
Cos its not really hard, just tedious, but the poor pvp players 
proper patio
I think this is mainly true for pvp players, Pve and Dve players really just hav...
I mean, hard either way. I don't like fueling the "us vs them" mentality that exists with PvP and PvE 👉👈
rough root
The only reason part of me thinks its nothing to do with being a full elder, is ...
Actually he never said that it was cool to do, despite many people saying it. He just ended the message with 'cool' xD
fading canyon
I wouldnt call it us vs them, Its just true that pvp players will have a harder time reaching natural elder, even just reaching adult on pvp servers can be difficult at times
covert stag
I'm still going off of what i heard about it being sinilar to Star Wars Galxies. Once Elder is unlocked you can start as an Elder if you die. In STW once force sensitivity was unlocked it unlocked for character creation.
fading canyon
The only issue i have with STW is that it only unlocked one force sensitive slot
dusk ravine
@bleak python It's actualy very easy to get even on PVP but you just cant play the game, logging on for ticks and logging off is very easy and safe. But if you want to play your dragon than you will most likely lose all your progress before elder.
fading canyon
so does that mean we will have to naturally elder each species seperately to unlock elder? or will it be like mela
turbid prawn
That’s the current debate
We need passive elders testing things on their other dragons
And then if nothing happens…… we need a passive elder to take the plunge
covert stag
The only issue i have with STW is that it only unlocked one force sensitive slot
I dont remember that to be honest. VERY long time ago i played. Played the original not the kept alive by fans version. Think i still have the DVD rom somewhere lol
fading canyon
Im working solely on passiving my IR currently
proper patio
I'm working on SS (currently 30%)
rough root
We are a few that are close thankfully
arctic scarab
would be cool to get passive ticks every 8h not 12
rough root
Testing on a 2x as well
rapid radish
Im working solely on passiving my IR currently
have you, by any chance, recorded your ticks? 🤩
fading canyon
I dont remember that to be honest. VERY long time ago i played. Played the origi...
I was doing a bunch of research on it, It was mentioned that unlocking your Force sensitve slot meant you could only have One force sensitive character/jedi, this was mentioned on most if not all the sites that had the method for unlocking said slot
slender arrow
Testing on a 2x as well
Didn’t he say it dosnt work
bleak python
<@967573703934214144> It's actualy very easy to get even on PVP but you just can...
That’s why you pick one you don’t want to play, and play other things instead of it.
fading canyon
have you, by any chance, recorded your ticks? 🤩
Just hit 12.7 today its gonna be rough, or do you mean like actually snapping pics of it
rough root
Didn’t he say it dosnt work
Only for admin grown or insta grown elders
But he didn't answer if it worked on 2x
rapid radish
Just hit 12.7 today its gonna be rough, or do you mean like actually snapping pi...
or making a note on the papre :p
fading canyon
I can go ahead and start doing that :)
slender arrow
Only for admin grown or insta grown elders
He didn’t say yes or no so
covert stag
I was doing a bunch of research on it, It was mentioned that unlocking your Forc...
Ah yeah thats right you could only have one force sensitive character at a time
slender arrow
Till he confirms it we can only assume it works or it doesn’t
fading canyon
It would kind of fit the bill of him saying it was similar, in which we could only have one elder dragon on a server
rough root
He didn’t say yes or no so
He said the method does not work for instant or grown dragons and posted a gif of him hating cheaters.
fading canyon
And it would mean less elders
slender arrow
He said the method does not work for instant or grown dragons and posted a gif o...
I know
rough root
Which is good
rapid radish
I can go ahead and start doing that :)
I would really appreciate that, thank you! ^^ I'm collecting data, I really need more asd data, but I guess I will grind that for myself :p
fading canyon
Do we know if we need to grow through one session to adult like mela? or just need to passive elder without growth boost from admin
fading canyon
I would really appreciate that, thank you! ^^ I'm collecting data, I really need...
Np!
rough root
I'm talking about the 2x growth rate servers.
slender arrow
Then again if he didn’t want 2x servers reach elder would be unfair but you never know
turbid prawn
I’m passive eldering on pvp official so I got my slow self as a backup in case
rough root
But we'll see. And hopefully we can get confirmation on it.
vale mortar
the people who reached elder on the other servers, what happened to them?
turbid prawn
Nothing so far
slender arrow
They haven’t said anything
vale mortar
dang
slender arrow
Who are the people that reach elder ?
arctic scarab
imagine now depression in pvp official servers, when ppl gonna die on progress to an elder, and later they move to pve servers, and pvp servers gonna be empty 😄
rough root
They said a few things, tested a few. But nothing new.
sinful haven
I'm honestly paying close attention to that, on one hand I removed camping and m...
Why not making two ways for elder? I mean there was a long time the theory about orbs that randomly spawn that would be an good idea you give pvp an active part . You want elders to be rare but when everz clan gate keeps there eledes until they got a bunch it brings nothing it actually make it more easy to collect all this else's because you don't need to risk you prog in anyway. That's the point that makes elder special in pvp. You was fighting for them it was an adrenaline kick to go out with an high prog. Do maybe giving you community a way to decide how they wanna elder and also reward the people who risk there peog by faster eldering would be an nice idea
rapid radish
Fair xD
torn peak
So after naturally elder grow what priorities you get on other non elder dragos ?
just a small growed % on daily ticks ?
mint tulip
Cool so second I get to Elder if we haven't figured it out I'm killing my ASD
Glad we know the first step is getting to Elder via passive tics
fading canyon
My hope would be is that once you do it, if its non campable and soloable, that your next dragon would actively elder by just growing normally to elder without a time limit on passive ticks, but maybe the normal growth ticks are in 5 to 10min intervals instead of the normal 1 to 2
signal lintel
Why not making two ways for elder? I mean there was a long time the theory a...
Rn the first step for eldering seems for pve lol. Yeah elders will be rare to have at some point because not everybody’s gonna passive tick to one but you also can’t just go around killing progs? People are gonna look for a safe spot and log in once or twice a day for 1 and half a minute.. Eldering in pvp for me is fighting about something or at least having to look for something. Which may come after the first step but this alone takes a long time for people 🤔
So u can’t fight each other at all and kill other’s progs which makes it so easy because it’s the first and basically only step for the people that haven’t done it yet
Though I’m pretty curious about how it works afterwards, if ur gonna have to kill off the elders to elder the new way again or if it actives it for every species idk, I hope it’ll be a bit more interesting for pvp
it makes the elders rare but it doesn’t give the players a challenge until after the 1st step which takes a long time already
sinful haven
Also remember abot that people that just have 1 account they can not even play the game anymore because losing this high passive tick would just hurt💔
fading canyon
I think regardless of the amount of accounts, losing any high passive ticked dragon would suck a lot
I am curious to see what we need to do after we passive elder, or if it is legit just, respawn/renest in and start growing again
signal lintel
Also remember abot that people that just have 1 account they can not even play ...
I could imagine Clone ticking like 15 accounts to elder again 💀💀
fading canyon
Or that for logging in for that many consecutive days would be more rewarding for active eldering, and not just lowering the time between passive ticks
arctic scarab
hide and seek in pvp just started
restive granite
Also remember abot that people that just have 1 account they can not even play ...
They don't need to elder every single dragon + it's a survival game. It's meant to be risky and difficult. Not having more than 1 account shouldn't deter you from a game, and label it as "unplayable." This isn't to debate on the topic just a side note.
sinful haven
Ohhh and don't forget the upstate part where the 4point is important since we missing the nurs dragon that is important for the new system. Just passiv ticking to make 1 good nest and than kill of the dragon because you need the space . Kind of that will kill in the end the motivation from. Everyone and make it frustrating in some way
fading canyon
Its best to just have an asd that you can elder, if we do need to elder each species individually (which would suck) its about roughly 56 days in total for fs and ir (assuming youre getting 2 ticks a day)
sinful haven
They don't need to elder every single dragon + it's a survival game. It's meant ...
It can be risky and difficult but just with this kind of eldering where is even than the point for a solo to try to go for the end game? :/ sure they have other dragons but maybe they are interested in having more elders :< end game stuff should be in the end be able for everyone in an non that frustrating way:°
rapid radish
pssst I have calculated the passive elder times in the pinned doc for official, 1.5x and 2x growth speed servers ^^ Including every point % aka 25%-50%-75%-100%
restive granite
A survival game is meant to be hard. This has dragons in it not dinosaurs. It will be x2 as hard with the flight. I'm not disagreeing that he can't do something to be less time consuming and more enjoyable, but in the mean time. Let's let the man think as to what since all this is doing is crying about how long it takes and not knowing. Again not invalidating or arguing against either side. Was just putting my 2 cents that a survival game should still be difficult.
arctic scarab
Its best to just have an asd that you can elder, if we do need to elder each spe...
ye ... my friend already pmed me that he cant play for 2 months, but he will log in sometimes for 2 min. just to see if everythink is good with dragons ... 😄
fading canyon
*pssst* I have calculated the passive elder times in the pinned doc for official...
Yup yup i saw :D Ir and fs are 56 days though but i understand if you rounded down ^-^ 55 days gets us to 99 so we would still need 2 ticks after that assuming it doesnt bump us up with one tick
restive granite
A survival game is meant to be hard. This has dragons in it not dinosaurs. It wi...
So ultimately yes, I hope something else is done so someone doesn't have to vault a dragon for month(s) just to figure out the system to do it all over again, because that will get boring, BUT
We're also complaining about the system that we don't fully know? idk maybe the steps after will be better? I hope it's clear as to what's required to do for eldering.
rapid radish
Yup yup i saw :D Ir and fs are 56 days though but i understand if you rounded do...
Hmmm, I will check my calculations, thank you! ^^ I probably just made an error with math 😅 Also the pattern is (to my knowledge) every 6th tick is 1% instead of 0.9% ^^ This is why I need more data, to confirm the pattern :p
restive granite
Hoping for the best
sinful haven
A survival game is meant to be hard. This has dragons in it not dinosaurs. It wi...
I was giving the idea of two ways of eldering reward the risk with better progess or for that who want can stay in a passiv way :3 not crying :< just showing up also the other really difficult Sid's :3
signal lintel
We're also complaining about the system that we don't fully know? idk maybe the ...
100% but I really think some people aren’t motivated for that anymore knowing they’ll have to tick first xD But I agree, will just patiently wait 
fading canyon
Hmmm, I will check my calculations, thank you! ^^ I probably just made an error ...
Its no worries, at 50 days should be around 90% on the ticks roughly potentially a little more, 55 should be just around the 99-100 mark, and since we know that we need that last tick to actually hit elder it should take more than 56 days if youre getting 2 ticks per day
restive granite
I was giving the idea of two ways of eldering reward the risk with better p...
That wasn't intended to be meant taken literally. Sorry 🤍
uneven mason
A survival game is meant to be hard. This has dragons in it not dinosaurs. It wi...
This system isnt difficult, its tedious, theres a very big difference
arctic scarab
not that bad, 1 month and some weeks and we have an elder
pliant yoke
that IS bad
uneven mason
Its not hard to log in every day but do i want to do that when i could be helping my clan upstat? No, i dont
balmy moss
Hmm seems you guys hit a wall again
fading canyon
Assuming we only need to elder one dragon to unlock it on a server, 24 days on asd really Isnt that bad. Jao wanted there to be less elders, Boom problem solved,
fading canyon
Its not _hard_ to log in every day but do i want to do that when i could be help...
Seeing the growth time and such on asd, you could always help upstat other dragons
uneven mason
Assuming we only need to elder one dragon to unlock it on a server, 24 days on a...
This is best case scenario with this system
fading canyon
and just have your asd be your eldering dragon
vestal rose
yeah, i hope its like mela where you only need to unlock it on one dragon to apply to all lmao
uneven mason
If it isnt, this system is SIGNIFICANTLY worse
fading canyon
Hey well ppl complained about the last one, so to be fair in a way we did ask for this
Its non campable, Soloable and pretty straight forward
uneven mason
You have to stop upstatting everything for a mont, presumably on every server you want to unlock it on
vestal rose
If it isnt, this system is SIGNIFICANTLY worse
especially once we get bigger dragons that take way longer to grow
fading canyon
You have to _stop_ upstatting everything for a mont, presumably on every server ...
Not everything
Just Asd for the time being
Its not like other ppl wont be upstatting that while you elder either
uneven mason
Read everything im typing please
vestal rose
Hey well ppl complained about the last one, so to be fair in a way we did ask fo...
yeah its probably a better system, i'm just lazy xDD
fading canyon
Trust me im reading everything, youre just looking at it from a worst case scenario point a view
Which technically, you dont have to elder every single dragon at the same time
uneven mason
Im literally writing if/than scenario
fading canyon
If you want to help upstat, pick a dragon to help upstat, then elder the others
And im giving you solutions
to said scenarios
uneven mason
My point is this system was never engaging to do, its not interesting
vestal rose
You have to _stop_ upstatting everything for a mont, presumably on every server ...
ik not everyone can buy the game on a separate account, but it is an option if you want to keep upstatting while also eldering
fading canyon
Dont get me wrong, its Extremely Tedious, but its not impossible while still helping to upstat dragons that you want to upstat
fading canyon
ik not everyone can buy the game on a separate account, but it is an option if y...
This as well^^^
uneven mason
“Not impossible “ doesnt mean its fun game design
All im hoping now is that the quest system makes it more fun do to
fading canyon
I think its pretty interesting, truthfully. It eliminates the need to fly around searching for hours, Honestly even on the old method on PvE servers it took Maybe slightly less time to do c: a lot of ppl just ended up passive eldering dragons instead anyways
But this is also just a temporary thing until questing comes out
pulsar swift
I think most just didn't want to believe it 😅
God knows I didnt wanna believe
fading canyon
Its best to just work with what we have been given instead of finding the negatives in it, its better than eldering not being in the game at all, which ppl wouldve complained about, and all you need to do is log in like twice a day :) its really not that aweful
fading canyon
I never said that it was "good" i just said theres no point in looking for the negatives, its just pessimistic and creates more negativity, this method does eliminate camping completely which for pvp server actually might be better, allowing more players a chance at actually reaching elder ^-^
Its goin XD
Gotta passive elder a dragon as the first step c:
lucid blaze
so log in twice per 24/hr to get passive ticks to become an elder, when that's done you completed the game 😉
tough urchin
Well we was only given the first step, could be more
fading canyon
If you can i think the best way of doing it is letting a tick pass until its a time that you can wake up and then before you sleep, so for me im prolly gonna try and set it around 11am so its 11am and 11pm for me
fading canyon
Well we was only given the first step, could be more
There definitely is, but we at least know the first step for now
lucid blaze
Well we was only given the first step, could be more
Copium
tough urchin
There definitely is, but we at least know the first step for now <a:cute_sob:120...
Its a big step, but I hope people who reaches it dont just kill off their elder when it might be needed for the second step. would give up if that happened to me 
fading canyon
Its a big step, but I hope people who reaches it dont just kill off their elder ...
fair XD i think there are a few ppl who are eldering asds currently though Specifically for that reason, to yeet them off of things/sacrifice them to see if it unlocks anything :D
tough urchin
fair XD i think there are a few ppl who are eldering asds currently though Speci...
fair xD
lucid blaze
I personally like being able to work towards the next step, passive eldering is nice I suppose, but it's kinda lame, I'm a PvE'er so I ofc am also putting myself in a position with little to no content outside of nesting.
somber shuttle
It just takes the motivation to actually play the game out. Its just a logging/growing sim. I was really hoping the first step would be more... involved. Or challenging to the player
lucid blaze
It just takes the motivation to actually play the game out. Its just a logging/g...
this 100%
chrome yarrow
yeah, its not unfair or bad system...its just boring. My problem is that iit actively stops you from playing the game in case you lose your dragon.
mint tulip
well it won't be as bad once there is more to the game other then just bugs to eat and other dragons
fading canyon
Understandable, but luckily this way is supposed to be only temporary until questing comes out later on in this year or early next year. it was probably the only thing jao could come up with that fit the community wanting it to be uncampable, and his idea of there being less elders, and it being more (slightly) dragony
Like devina said, it wont be as bad once more content is added into the game
mint tulip
the issue I atleast encounter is the very tight amount of food and the only real interactions I can have is bug or dragon
lucid blaze
even so, when quests come out, wouldn't that just be collect 10 of X or kill 10 of X grow X amount?
fading canyon
I think after blitz is out, elementals are next. but Pve players are gonna be kind of out of content for awhile
mint tulip
won't they beable to fight elementals?
fading canyon
or brood and then elementals
PvE is player vs enviornment
So there is no pvp in pve at all, youd have to enable pvp to fight elementals i believe
mint tulip
ah
fading canyon
Thats why Dragon verses elemental servers are a thing
Its both a combo of pvp and pve servers which is actually pretty nice :D
lucid blaze
yeah I play on DvE
fading canyon
^^ same c:
Granted until elementals come out there wont be much for DvE servers aside from upstatting dragons
somber shuttle
was just hoping for something more engaging. I really didnt believe he would make us passive all the way to elder lol I do hope it changes. I had high hopes that it was more advanced than that. Hopefully the unlocked "active" way is not just higher tics.
lucid blaze
which is to some extend nice, just a sociable little nesting environment, but a lot of people are so focused on BIO, and sadly I don't have that, so feels bad xD
vestal rose
I think after blitz is out, elementals are next. but Pve players are gonna be ki...
lol at least we'll have upstatting and potentially skin crafting
fading canyon
lol at least we'll have upstatting and potentially skin crafting
This^^^ literally skin crafting will be super fun just cos its not just "take this dragon and this dragon" "nest a bunch and boom, New skin" and now we have more creativity when creating skins
vestal rose
yupp
pliant yoke
lime viper
Yeah I am honestly pretty disappointed with the "grow via passive ticks to elder first" thing lol
I want to activley play the game and grind elder... not sit there for 1 months for my ASD to reach elder and then being able to do it lol xD
Really hope that gets changed into something more... active lol
stray notch
yo i heard elder was revealed?
lime viper
Basically you have to grow to elder passively first to be able to unlock the active system lol
stray notch
Basically you have to grow to elder passively first to be able to unlock the act...
thats what he revealed? only that
did he mentoin anything else
sly cedar
Butwestilldontknowtheactivemethod!!! 🤣🤣🤣
stray notch
THW FIRST STEP HE BEEN TALKING ABT IS THIS
tame crest
That's it, that's the system.
stray notch
THE ELDER LADDER
orchid barn
Really hope that gets changed into something more... active lol
Exactly, I'll not bother with eldering at all if that doesn't get changed. I'm not willing to spend literal MONTHS of basically not playing at all on pvp bc passive ticks. And afaik noone has found anything further after they eldered passively. This is so... mhmpf... I am in disbelief this is supposed to be it. This isn't gameplay at all.
tame crest
Having to elder a dragon using passive elder ticks is...not engaging.
stray notch
Exactly, I'll not bother with eldering at all if that doesn't get changed. I'm n...
passive grow an asd and play others?
lime viper
Exactly, I'll not bother with eldering at all if that doesn't get changed. I'm n...
He can't expect PvP people to just sit there for 1+ months not playing because they could lose their passive ticks xD
orchid barn
passive grow an asd and play others?
That's what's been done already and nothing happened
tame crest
I eldered all of my dragons on legacy using ticks, my gameplay boiled down to logging in for a couple of minutes every day.
lime viper
Esp if you sometimes die due random bugs in the game
stray notch
That's what's been done already and nothing happened
wdym nothing happend thats what rhino saying?
orchid barn
wdym nothing happend thats what rhino saying?
I am aware of what was said, but people already did grow to elder by passive ticks and so far those people haven't found a supposed next step
lime viper
I am aware of what was said, but people already did grow to elder by passive tic...
Well I assume the next step is "go die" and then the next dragon you grow has the active system unlocked lol
orchid barn
And even if that is the actual first step I'd rather spend my time practising each dragon and actually playing the game to just be good enough to not depend on the tiny elder buff than log in for a few minutes twice daily for months
lime viper
The thing is, if you need to grow a dragon to elder via passive ticks to unlock the active method then it actualy punishes you for playing the game in an active way. If you play like intended it is super easy to die but if you log in twice a day for 2 min to get your tick and then log off again you get rewarded for not playing.
tame crest
This is currently just as bad as the Jedi AFK meta in SWG Resto lol (AFKing to negate a gameplay loop)
Why participate in the gameplay loop when you can cheese it by logging in for 2 minutes a day.
faint tendon
Rhino seemed well aware of the drawbacks and mentioned already considering changing it, trying to keep Elders rare, but make it accessible to casual players who don't want to commit to first step.
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lime viper
I hope he does, currenlty the way rewards the people not playing the game. It should be the other way around. There should be only an active method but if you do something special you can unlock passive ticks for your dragon to help it go faster. ENCOURAGE people to play the game and not the opposite by logging in twice a day and that's it.
uneven mason
I dont understand the whole gatekeepy way of thinking of elders being ‘rare’ if theyre also supposed to be ‘end-game’
balmy moss
Hmm
uneven mason
We already have difficult to obtain creatures coming like elementals and the hybrid
balmy moss
It's a sense of accomplishment
tame crest
My assumption would be, going back to that comparison he made during that one Q&A, he sees them like the Jedi in SWG; lore-wise, they're supposed to be rare. Gameplay-wise they'd also be relatively rare. They're stronger than normal folks.
uneven mason
It's a sense of accomplishment
It would be if you actually had to engage with the game to earn it
balmy moss
Its a work in progress. Rhino said so himself. He plans on changing it and taking into the fact of players that don't play as much
Why are we still stuck on this.
lucid blaze
I'd rather be rewarded for hard work, than just passive growth, it feels bad xD
uneven mason
My assumption would be, going back to that comparison he made during that one Q&...
I dont know that game, sorry, but is every player in SWG like, expected to become a Jedi ?
tame crest
Not really, you had to work towards it.
lime viper
Its a work in progress. Rhino said so himself. He plans on changing it and takin...
I mean right now people who dont play often get rewarded xD log in twice a day for your ticks and you gucci.. play a few hours and the chance the lose your dragon is realllyyy high so you get punished for playing
uneven mason
what is ‘endgame’ in that case?
balmy moss
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tame crest
Its a bit difficult with SWG because the crux of the Jedi experience is being hunted by bounty hunters 
balmy moss
That's what he plans on doing. So he's working on it. Boom mic drop
lime viper
I would rather have someone camp my dragonbutt than having to passiv elder for 1+ months 
balmy moss
I would rather have someone camp my dragonbutt than having to passiv elder for 1...
Well it's a good thing he's changing it.
uneven mason
Its a bit difficult with SWG because the crux of the Jedi experience is being hu...
Okay so it contains different gameplay once you get past that point
tame crest
Yeah, it turns into a PVP game.
uneven mason
So its not really ‘end game’ for normal players
Im trying to see the comparison being made but even there the game becomes different than a non-jedi’s ‘end game’
lime viper
Well guys lets hope 1.1 is gonna come soon and with it a change to the elder system 
lucid blaze
the social part is that it's on a server with other people, and then the Solo able part is it's passive ticks 😉
bleak python
I see the reasons I quit talking here are still prevalent. Gonna go back to ignoring this channel again until the next hint.
lime viper
the social part is that it's on a server with other people, and then the Solo ab...
bold of you to assume that there are people on servers 
gray mango
So first step is to elder passively, now we need hhints for the step after lmao
turbid copper
Well, a dragon would naturally grow to old age sooo
worthy python
My question is after thr passive ticks, will you have the elder buffs or is it just it gets bigger? Then after the next steps you get thr buffs orrrr
slender arrow
I don’t care if it’s passive ticks or another ways just make it so it’s hard to get so we don’t end up with 40v40 elders wars that was my point that I was trying to make
deft spruce
i am, but ive already gotten warned about it before
deft spruce
Ask and ye shall receive.
First step to unlock Elder is to naturally grow to Eld...
HAHHA
here's an idea: They removed active eldering :)
yeh i saw
stray notch
Well I assume the next step is "go die" and then the next dragon you grow has th...
do u know anyone that got an elder who is down to try this?
astral fog
Ask and ye shall receive.
First step to unlock Elder is to naturally grow to Eld...
I was right 😎
languid spoke
we're not supposed to tag when they're not active, when replying turn @ mention off
balmy moss
wallpalm
kind wedge
what do they mean with first step
like. its not a step when u literally have to grow to elder passively which is taking months...and u wanna say after these months there is more?
sage cape
@void patrol
tired spruce
Imagine locking eldering for those who grew to juvi/adult via admin because that's "cheating" when admin panel is there for a reason, and private servers often have more online than official servers, so to just slap them in the face like that will do no good to you
Also what about grows on official servers?
That's so dumb
Enjoy even more online drops lol
kind wedge
i thought its an actual mechanic. not just a time waste...
tired spruce
Also devs over there trying to fight changing files, but their "3 step security" is legit only changing steam id to files from numbers to @%%@182, and by making elder system as stupid as it is right now, people will be even more encouraged to get elders via files
kind wedge
also what if u play on a rules server but lose your dragon to a rulebreak? u cant be regrown and lose all your progress?
jagged stone
There are 3 steps to actively Elder, I gave you all the first step. And it is an actual mechanic, not a waste of time.
tired spruce
It's a waste of time when compared to previous one
languid spoke
3 steps
kind wedge
is ot 3 ways. or 3 steps
bc 3 steps mean grow passive, then 2 more things, then be elder
languid spoke
steps
mint tulip
3 steps to do the second one which is actives
maiden island
steps he said steps lol
languid spoke
a 3 step process
mint tulip
which I am personally thinking means ya gotta get to elder die then try and get to adult again to figure out step 2 and 3
kind wedge
how are u supposed to find it out
it was obvious that passive time ticks are a method
but how can reaching elder on passives be the first step of a 3 step thing if u allready grow to elder by the passive as step 1...
kind wedge
which I am personally thinking means ya gotta get to elder die then try and get ...
so
use months of growing
die
and usem ore months?
astral fog
what if growing passive elder on one dragon, just means you can active elder on the others after you finish passive eldering 👀
kind wedge
dont think its that easy 🙂