New Elder System

[last minnow]

it was already known info lol, prob late for that

[wide canopy]

Wuts known info

[rapid radish]

Do you see my white colour? 😄 I'm not a patreon! it was shared here by someone else, pls leave me alone xD

[last minnow]

that the eldering system is gonna get changed in 1.0.1 if nobody figures it out

[wide canopy]

Oh

Yh ive seen that in general like

20 times outside of patreon

[last minnow]

right

[wide canopy]

I lowkey thought it was a deleted announcement or jao said it somewhere

[rapid radish]

wtf, I just got a warning for sharing the screenshot that a patreon posted in chat already 😮 Has anyone else had this happen to them??

[languid spoke]

Yea it was shared by a patreon previously, I've seen several patreon messages ss'd and shared here. Not very cool. We know just as little but doesn't mean a private chat should be shared

[rapid radish]

But why do I get a warning of it, shouldn't the original patreon be warned instead of me?

it's still in this chat, why not remove it then

[languid spoke]

My guess is because you shared it again? I'm not scrolling so don't know. They must not have seen the original

[fading canyon]

I definitely agree that iso shouldnt have gotten the warning, its been shared multiple times by now, as well as other PT only info

[rapid radish]

Well that's why I'm asking if anyone non-patreon has had this happen to them

[languid spoke]

Maybe go find where that person shared it and message the admin, that would be the most sensible thing to do

[compact kindle]

Was it a SS of sensitive info?

[languid spoke]

Probs not, but from patreon chat area

[compact kindle]

Tbh tho Im with Iso, They arenot a patreon, how would they know whats exclusive and not allwoed to be shared and what is

[rapid radish]

also there's no rule about it

[languid spoke]

I'm just saying, show the admin who shared it to begin with

They weren't here when it was shared, all they see if it being shown

No one is in the right or wrong on that necessarily, except the person who shared it first

[fading canyon]

The rule is more so for ppl in the actual PT chat not to share outside of the channel, If something is leaked non pt memebers dont know its from pt so they need to address the person who originally sent it

[languid spoke]

Exactly that

[compact kindle]

[rapid radish]

It's not in the official rules, that you cannot share a patreon chat screenshot from a patreon.

who do I contact this with? Midnight?

[languid spoke]

The admin who told you is who I'd send it to personally

[rapid radish]

they are not answering

[languid spoke]

They don't have to. Take a ss of where it was first shared, send it to them

Easy

They will see it when they see it and make corrections as needed

[rapid radish]

they removed the ss -.-

[languid spoke]

If they removed the very original then they already know

[cosmic river]

remain on topic in the channel please

[languid spoke]

Sorry fan

[rapid radish]

then pls answer me in private

[cinder musk]

I wouldn't push the issue Iso.

[drowsy panther]

oh one of the elder`s have spoken xD btw anyone tryd the heat vision on the fs in the caves?

[languid spoke]

Yea, and a lot of other places with no luck

[rapid radish]

I'm not pushing it! There's no official rule about it, so why I'm getting a warning, seems very unfair

[cinder musk]

I doubt that its going to be something that only one class of dragon could discover... It has to be something that all elder capable dragons can do.

[drowsy panther]

thats what i thought

[drowsy panther]

im wondring if it can be like u need something from all the dragons?

[languid spoke]

most i could guess on that would be if it was species specific, but i don't think the elder method differs per dragon

[cinder musk]

I had orriginally thought about that too but then it wouldn't be something you could complete solo

[drowsy panther]

wonder if the mush spawns have the elder spawn there but very rare spawn

[languid spoke]

no mushrooms

Jao did say the elder shrooms no longer exist

[sly cedar]

... remaining on topic of eldering, what would be so wrong to share knowledge or info regarding a core endgame mechanic of the game. I really don't want to say this, but if that info will.be gate kept behind a paywall of Patreon status, then isn't that low key paying to win? -_- again, I don't want to think that. Prove me wrong if you must but that's what I feel. 😦

[pulsar swift]

Doubt thats gonna happen

[somber shuttle]

The patreons dont know any more than anyone else

[languid spoke]

there is no gatekeeping Bub, patreons know just as little and anything said there is just as unhelpful. also, if can be shared without screenshots.

[pulsar swift]

from what we know from other patreons they know as much as we do

which is nada so far

[languid spoke]

we know jack diddly squat lol

[cinder musk]

Something like that can't be kept behind closed doors. Far to many platforms that info can be shared on and once discovered it will start showing up on all of them.

[languid spoke]

which is why we're in here 😂

[drowsy panther]

if we knew we would not be here in this chat

[languid spoke]

again, anything pertinent CAN be shared, but screenshots of private chats are a no go. not good manners

back to the subject tho.......i've found nothing

[sly cedar]

Ok. It just felt weird that some those shots were shared here from supposedly the patreon channel. Yet they aren't allowed to be shared, yet they pertain to Eldering. I was just like, "why answer something as crucial as that only in there where the rest of us can't see it???" But ok. I'm sorry.

[languid spoke]

i also haven't been looking as hard since we were working on upstatting. i know there was suggestion that something to do with stats could be related but we've never proven or disproven it

[languid spoke]

there was no real answer tho. we get nothing special on that front.

[sly cedar]

You're correct on that front...

[languid spoke]

and honestly, if we were to hear anything that would help y'all know we'd come in here and be like "GUYS! try this!" or something

we all wanna elder 😂

[quaint ice]

Whats crazy to me is a SURVIVAL game having an "endgame mechanic" like there kinda is no endgame to a survival game??

[cinder musk]

after that first clue of take the first step and climb the elder ladder I've had a feeling its stat based and that we have to hit flat A's to trigger something

[quaint ice]

idk tho I just wanna elder :(

[languid spoke]

i meeeeaaaaannnnnnn.........perfect stats pretty endgame? which is why people thought they were related

[quaint ice]

It will take literal months of upstatting to get flat As

[drowsy panther]

wonder how long it wil take befor the (elder) to come and close this chat xD

[quaint ice]

idk I just wanna elder

[sly cedar]

Well... hmm... to a degree yoj have a point... but I guess it depends on the game. Take Path of Titans for example, and you can argue its more mmo or something. But for the sake of the argument it is kinda a survival game. What is its end game? Get marks for skins? Decorate your homecave? I hear they may implement some more emotes maybe even achievements.

[cinder musk]

Yes it will for some dragons... no doubt

[quaint ice]

Thats a good point, I have not played PoT I cant say much

[languid spoke]

maybe. depends. so the bad part of upstatting is the recessive genes affect upstatting. and you can't see them without your 4th tick into social. so you don't know if you haved a good dragon for upstatting until you get that tick.

we've got growth disabled on our server and have done ok upstatting, finally have ONE dominant A/recessive A on one stat

only way to know if it's related to eldering is to enable growth once we get more A's and go that route

[quaint ice]

Thats crazy cause my clan has done nothing but upstatting for the past 2 and a bit weeks and our A Bloodlines are JUST getting Cs

Not to mention it takes weeks before you even get that 4th point

[languid spoke]

right!? they changed it, DM me if you wanna get into upstatting since it's technically off topic unless we tie it into eldering theories haha

[cinder musk]

Cant see grandparents recessive stats at all and proved the night before last on the bios that those are cropping up too. We had two 0/0e's bonk, the parents were 0/0e and a 4e came out of the first egg.

[languid spoke]

i have theories on that....but not here lol

[sly cedar]

All the talk of the chances and TIME it takes to upstat one dragon bloodline and NOW there's a chance eldering will take even longer... am it he only one that slightly feels liek this starting to get similar to some of those Asian games with so many chances mechanics that it just starts feeling like a second job or time sink? (I AM NOT TRYIGN TO TEAR DOWN THE GAME. JUST STATIGN MY THOUGHTS 😅)

I'm probabaly just getting overwhelmed and losing it finally. Er I mean again. Heh

[languid spoke]

i'm not gonna lie.....on the eldering front: i am the least concerned 😂

like, yes i wanna solve the mystery right, 100%

but, i don't want to elder something with garbage stats, so that's more important to me atm

plus, it'll get discovered or we'll be told, i'm not stressing over it

[mint tulip]

LOL so far only one no on my feedback page to tell us how to elder

[cinder musk]

Agree. Ive been regrowing dragons nearly every day so the elder ticks havent even mattered thus far.

Once the mechanic is figued out though it would make life a little easier because we could elder to 25% to at least see recessive genes on other dragons besides bios

[sly cedar]

The only true stress I'm getting from it, is wondering whether or not if it will truly be worth my time... will it be engaging? Fun? Will it correlate to the lore in an interesting way? I want to enjoy my time in the game. And I understand not everything in a game will be the most riveting activity... like the typical grind or farm... I get it... sigh Idk..

[languid spoke]

as long as it's more exciting than waiting for a shroom to spawn i'm good 😂

[cinder musk]

anything is better than waiting for a shroom only to have someone that had it timed log on and swipe it out from under you.

[languid spoke]

YES 😂 danged ol shroom campers man (read that in a southern accent for maximum enjoyment)

[mint tulip]

personally just waiting for more content/food so I don't have to kill other players for food if i am gonna kill them its cause i want them to go away from what I claim as my territory

[cinder musk]

Thats one thing I would have solved very quickly by adding a randomizer to

[mint tulip]

like i wanna know how to elder but that is secondary at this point to actually having a game to play

[languid spoke]

i mean, sometimes they did spawn as green or red to really screw you up

[cinder musk]

I had a camper log on and snagged the wrong color shroom just to be an arse one night

[languid spoke]

lmao

ah the good ol days

well, now that we know shrooms are out.....we'll figure the rest out later

[cinder musk]

I was like dood that shroom does you no good it was my color

[languid spoke]

some people weren't smart about it

[granite mica]

does anyone have a min to speak with me in a vc???

[languid spoke]

Are you on bio

[granite mica]

yes, and extremely confused

[languid spoke]

They get all 7 points because no elder stage

[last minnow]

^

[granite mica]

ahh alright, first time playing the new update and was extremely confused

thanks

[languid spoke]

It is yes 😂 all good

Welcome to the lost club

[drowsy panther]

but soon to be found 😉

[languid spoke]

Yes!

[mint tulip]

wait seven?

but they used only 4 and have a 5th left over?

or does the final thing count in a mutation cost 3?

[turbid prawn]

It’s 7 😉

I main as the menace helicopter

We get 7 total points now if we use bio as a base. Bios once full adult receive 7 points

[mint tulip]

ah ok

[dusk ravine]

@drowsy panther Ima say not soon

[drowsy panther]

sooner then XD

[dusk ravine]

Soonest is like mid December when 1.0 might come out

[devout anvil]

whar

[drowsy panther]

wait and see

[cinder musk]

huh? We are currently playing 1.0.

[pliant violet]

2.0 ain't gonna release for another decade

[dusk ravine]

@cinder musk Are we though, only got the IR and a half done map, I am pretty sure we are in 0.6

[mint tulip]

certainly feels like it isn't 1.0

[tardy perch]

It's like 40% of 1.0 XD Soft release and all that

[digital isle]

sincerely i feel that we are already active eldering, but more on a "passive" mode

[native yacht]

we are actively passive growing

[rapid radish]

I think 20%, bc 4 more updates to go xD

[fading canyon]

part of me hopes that there is an actual method in the game, otherwise how would we really figure it out in time before he supposedly changes it? unless hes just paying attention to chat

Not just needing to passive elder before you can active elder

[rough root]

Hey lovelies! Been a bit held up with some irl health stuff BUT! I'm back to it and I'll be updating the docs tomorrow once again.

Alas, nothing new from me. Passive ticking those points as usual here.

[fading canyon]

Welcome back crow ^-^

[rough root]

Thank you dear

[fading canyon]

ofc ofc

[mint tulip]

as you can see nothing works so far

and still no hints but welcome back :3

[sly cedar]

Well the only "new hint" we kinda got is maybe reaching a specific point in eldering may unlock part 2 to eldering...... or become a passive elder to unlock active elder... we still don't know yeah... -___-

[mint tulip]

fek ok

still too vague imo

which means try and get high enough a elder prog to then try everything

[mint tulip]

btw who gave the hint

[turbid prawn]

I stated my current theory to test was you had to hit a certain % of elder first but idk if people took it from me or others

[mint tulip]

ah ok so not a dev

still good idea

[turbid prawn]

Yeah no dev confirmation. But kinda makes a little sense as to why we aren’t getting more hints? We just haven’t met the base requirement en mass to need the hint

[last minnow]

its the last resort anyway with all this, and its simple

[turbid prawn]

^^^

[mint tulip]

personally i think it is poor game design to have a mechanic completely unknown with no ingame hints built in

[sly cedar]

..... what???? What i said was what we kinda brewed up for it to mean. A pic was shared as to what Jao said. Hang on

THAT was shared with us earlier higher up. @mint tulip

[last minnow]

oh so then yea passive eldering first

[sly cedar]

Some said maybe we hit a percentage into passive elder will reveal the next chunk, or maybe become completely Elder via Passive will unlock for all other dragons Active Elder method

[last minnow]

i just wanna know why hes now speaking like master Wu from ninjago LOL

but yea it has to do with passive eldering, i understand that hint for once

[bleak python]

See you guys in 55 days

[sly cedar]

Wut happened fren? :0

[restive barn]

LOLLLL

[last minnow]

I MEAN

AM I WRONG OR WHAT LOL

[restive barn]

YOU’RE NOT

ITS FUNNY

it is def passive eldering, i agree

[sly cedar]

I don't know who that is because I'm old, so I thought Master Oogway instead... then I took it back, because this is nothing like legendary Oogway. Forgive me...

[last minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/sensei-wu-always-be-alert-ninjago-gif-10076221

[bleak python]

That’s how long passive takes

[sly cedar]

Almost 2 months...

[last minnow]

depending on the dragon you can do it in 20 days

and like 30 on ss

[sly cedar]

I would say that's a load of bs... but we can unlock mela woth bio for all so... who knows yet...

[last minnow]

for asd its 20 rounded if you get 2 ticks a day

supposedly

[sly cedar]

One issue I take with this, and I mentioned it earlier, if this all really is just held back by waiting for passive ticks... there's a chance peeps may skidaddle off to a community server with sped up growth rates than stay on Officials...

[naive oxide]

thank god i play on a x2 server

[sly cedar]

But it really depends.

[last minnow]

maybe thats the reason why they made 2x a thing for community servers

elders are meant to be rare i think mainly for the officials

[naive oxide]

btw, does anybody know if there are elder shrooms on the lowspec 1.0 branch since it’s the old map?

[last minnow]

no, its still UE5

and 1.0

[sly cedar]

If you have one core mechanic being held back by a timer that NOBODY likes and can be circumvented simply by playing a community server... not sure that's a good thing for Officials haha

[naive oxide]

alright ty

[last minnow]

elders are supposed to be rare according to jao, jao only ever played officials

[sly cedar]

But what do I know. 🤷‍♀️

[last minnow]

so maybe its still gonna be alright idk

[sly cedar]

... I forgot that was said. Hmm...

[last minnow]

bc people want to upstat on officials

[restive barn]

maybe it means that you have to get your FIRST elder tick 🤷

[naive oxide]

we must become something first

[last minnow]

well thinking how master wu talks, it sounds more like passively elder to unlock the main way

[naive oxide]

which i think is elder

^

[past lichen]

I think the active eldering way is time locked by the passive. SO you can't do the active in till you hit 20% 50% passive eldering. If we follow that vein of thought it could follow the no camping rules. I would like to THINK that around 25% you could get a little side quest or something to get an active tick.

[sly cedar]

We must become Old to truly become ELDER. XD

[past lichen]

The question then turns to what the hell is the active way once you get enough passive ticks. Will we have to repeat all of the tests but at 25-50%?

[naive oxide]

Currently at 29% elder on asd and so far nothing

[sly cedar]

I asked Iso earlier for a quick number crunch, and if we were to take an ASD that grew to adult day of launch and kept up with passive elder ticks, they would be beyond 50% by now. Probably. But we don't know anyone who stuck with their E bloodline and even saw any notification saying otherwise.

[past lichen]

I suppose we all have to wait to really tell.

We will find the right way or someone will passive all the way to 100%

[sly cedar]

If it's passive all the way and it maybe unlocks for all other species for you like Mela, then who in their right mind would ever do it/start it on anything other than ASD? X.x seems a bit weird if you ask me.

[mellow dawn]

Then what about bio couldn’t you do the same thing as for the mela skin? Isn’t the final stage elder rn or is it just adult

[naive oxide]

for bio it’s elder

you get it immediately

but everything else you stop at adult then passive elder

[sly cedar]

Bio absolutely can unlock Mela for the other dragons. That's how I did it. As for Elder, Bio can't reach edler, so in this theory it wouldn't work.

[past lichen]

ASD is also DLC so the starting point would be ss for most

[crisp rock]

Ye bio stays adult no elder

[mellow dawn]

How long do we have to wait for an add to passively then

[sly cedar]

12 hrs per tick. No matter the dragon. But percentage per dragon varies. So far the bigger they are, the smaller percentage of a tick gets added. The smaller guys still technically, grow faster...

[mellow dawn]

So we are looking at about 2weeks if someone still have a add from launch date 2/17 :(

Asd*

[sly cedar]

If someone has an adult ASD made since day one launch of 1.0 and has kept up with each passive Elder tick, they should be beyond 50 or 60%. Lemme see if I can find what Iso said.

This was IF a person started getting ticks since the beginning per dragon.

What percentage they would be at possibly.

[mellow dawn]

And I’m better there would be a very few amount :/

[sly cedar]

We have been LIVE for a bit more than 2 weeks^^^^

[dry mauve]

Really depends on when they get on and how many days the get on and if its the same dragon

Im thinking its stat based

what a normal elder tick on an asd currently

starting from A stat no elder ticks

[crisp rock]

is that a timer for each?

[mint tulip]

yep

[crisp rock]

seconds minutes or hours?

[mint tulip]

this is i think percent of growth to elder after 2 weeks

[crisp rock]

ohh ok

lol

[mint tulip]

asd

elder fastest

[rapid radish]

Oh yeah, I forgot to add the % in the end, sorry 😅

I also send the "irl days"-counts for each dragon and yes, for IR and FS it is about 55 irl days if you get both your ticks. 40 days for SS and 24 days for ASD. 😄

[heavy ridge]

Jao had a soft expectation that we could figure it out before 1.0.1, so it can't be to full elder a dragon passively.
First tick or 10% I could believe. But not full elder.

[mint tulip]

w>

[heavy ridge]

Didn't he say he got inspiration from that star wars game that requires multiple character files before you can play one that becomes force sensitive?
Has anyone in here been testing with a game file of all of the free dragons at first-tick?

[last minnow]

i mean, if it is elder with passive ticks ig we figured it out before 1.0.1

"become the thing you seek" become an elder

[rapid radish]

No, not inspiration, he just referred to SWG for why he wasn't giving hints

[last minnow]

^

[heavy ridge]

Ahhhhh, ty

[rapid radish]

and also it should be in the pinned docs, maybe 😄

[heavy ridge]

If I could figure out how to open pins in a thread on mobile I would have already 😅

[rapid radish]

oh, um let me see xD

click the chat name in the top, then settings, then pinned messages 🙂

[sly cedar]

That was estimating roughly what percentage each dragon would be currently if they kept up with their passive elder ticks since the start of 1.0.

[heavy ridge]

||that is so stupid, why is this ap like this||

[sly cedar]

Aaaay! Iso is here!

[sly cedar]

This is what bothered me too...

[rapid radish]

Hellooo! ^^

But now I will dip out, bc it is early morning for me and I haven't slept and my brain is not braining anymore xD

[last minnow]

wb iso

im tired

[rapid radish]

so tired xD

[sly cedar]

Ni ni ^_^/

[heavy ridge]

Guess I am going to have to seriously log in for those elder ticks. If not for 10% (5-6? Days?), then for the first elder point at 25%... might be worth it to crack out an ASD.

Steps on a ladder. Become stronger so you can seek strength.

I can do that.

[devout kettle]

Everyone still going insane for this?

[heavy ridge]

Yup. Still loosing our minds.

[last minnow]

im not, im pretty sure its elder with passive ticks

you have to become an elder

[devout kettle]

Hey lime!

[last minnow]

hi!

[native yacht]

wait when did he say that?

[heavy ridge]

But firmly convinced first step involves passive ticks. How many? What's step #2? No idea. But we're getting there.

[devout kettle]

Honestly at this point, elder ticks are more reliable than whatever hints we've been given

[heavy ridge]

8 hours ago in general

[last minnow]

"become what you are seeking" become an elder with passive ticks

then possibly unlocks the main way to elder

which WOULD make it rare and a grind to do

[devout kettle]

Grindable suggests it's something you can go and do tho

[last minnow]

you can go and get an elder tick every day

[devout kettle]

2*

[last minnow]

idk man it makes sense to me that its elder with passives first, "become that which you seek" says it all

[heavy ridge]

He said he'd change it if we didn't figure it out before 1.0.1, back when that was supposed to be a 2 week period.
If you have to get full elder first, that math doesn't add up

[devout kettle]

Why would you bloody change it

[last minnow]

but maybe he meant that if nobody was close to figuring it out then it would be changed

[heavy ridge]

Because it would be to convoluted

[devout kettle]

Ngl I can see everyone quitting the came entirely if it's changed and we haven't figured it out

It's almost like a punishment for not figuring it out

[heavy ridge]

He hasn't changed it on us. He said if we didn't figure it out, he'd change it and tell us what the origional method was.

[devout kettle]

Ew no and give us more vague "hints"?

[last minnow]

becoming what you seek isnt vauge at all

[heavy ridge]

No hints vs an easier time + knowing an example of what he would make it like? That's a pretty big hint.

[smoky hatch]

My guess is that you either:
A) Need your first passive tick to begin
B) Need your first elder point (25%) to begin

[heavy ridge]

That's what I was thinking too

[last minnow]

im thinking its elder with passive ticks, if its with 25% then awesome, saves time

[small sedge]

From that hint we've def gotta passive elder first, but I'm still curious as to what happens after that iirc there was a mention of eldering becoming more of a social thing? So do you elder faster around elders? Do elders guide adults to something that helps them elder faster?

[last minnow]

well with that being said lets roll the credits, our work here is done and all thats left is time

[smoky hatch]

It would make sense that 25% is your first benchmark (imo) because then you have to put at least a good chunk of time into that dragon.

Though I have messed around with a 25% elder on a personal server, didn't find beans.

[devout kettle]

Yeah I'm p sure most of the people trying to figure out the system have (understandably) given up

[last minnow]

thats what makes me think its actually reaching elder

[smoky hatch]

I really hope not.

[last minnow]

25% makes no sense bc thats not elder

[smoky hatch]

It's the first tick of starting to elder though. Your first elder progress point.

The first rung on a metaphorical ladder of four points.

[heavy ridge]

100% doesn't make sense on the timeline, but the only thing left to do is go poke around in-game while we wait for it to tick over. Maybe we stumble over it at 25%, maybe at 100.

[smoky hatch]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[devout kettle]

I can't wait to go through another hellscape of trying to figure out the new system when it's changed.

[smoky hatch]

I miss my mushrooms tbh. But I agree with the "its not very dragony" sentiment.

[last minnow]

i both liked and hated the mushies

[devout kettle]

The problem w the mushies was the logout campers

[heavy ridge]

We still have time to figure ot out before that happens. At the very least, Jaos optimization blitz has bought us more time

[smoky hatch]

US4?

[devout kettle]

Any and every server had logout campers lmao

[last minnow]

i logged in 1-5 mins early and used test map to practice so i could get it multiple times in a row

[smoky hatch]

Yes and no.

[devout kettle]

I had drags on UE4 and US4, as well as scaleworx

[smoky hatch]

I enjoyed scouting ravine and watching massive fights break out on US1. :)

[devout kettle]

Lmao yeah

I avoided and still do avoid the pvp servers because I'm toxic in pvp

I was a lot worse when i first got the game

I was so hateful lmao

[smoky hatch]

welcome to 99% of DOD's pvp scene. This is just how people are 😔

But we're off topic.

[last minnow]

id play pvp if i could care less about it being fair

oh yea

eldering

[devout kettle]

c':

[smoky hatch]

eldering

[devout kettle]

Sorry, what's eldering?

-_-

Out of our reach probably pftt

[heavy ridge]

May I suggest a DvE server for that "We're gearing up for combat, but not wiping each other in the process" vibes? Bonus: there won't be a single elemental on there until we have elders to sacrifice to achieve it.

[devout kettle]

I'd take you up on that suggestion but I'm losing interest in playing.
UE5? Sit around and grow dragons, and then sit here staring at the channel while trying to brainstorm what the mechanic is with no success.
UE4? Dead. Sure, I could elder my stuff on various servers but eh

I think the only time I'ma bother with DoD for a while is just elder tick logon because that seems to be all we can think of for the eldering

Cos it's just not enjoyable anymore. It's genuinely painful xD

[mint tulip]

is why I am waiting for more content

right now too scarce in food and water if there is alot of dragons

and all the same food

[devout kettle]

Yee

[turbid prawn]

I’ll keep working on my elder tics and try various things every 10% and see if I get anything

[last minnow]

my ss has been at 10+% for afew days now and nothing has happened

[bleak python]

Pretty sure the hint said become what you seek

Meaning become elder

Doubt anything will happen at varying %’s

Except point

So we’ll know in 30-55 days

Maybe sooner depending on them PvE peeps

Grindable + Not campable

Difficult to get

It all lines up

Also I highly doubt the devs would lie about saying it’s in ; they get enough backlash already for every little thing they do.

[last minnow]

ive been trying to say that but people think 25% is it

which to me makes no sense

[bleak python]

25% does not = 100%

[last minnow]

exactly

i tried pointing that out but people still think its 25%, its like saying if you want to be a millionaire, become 25% of one

[bleak python]

I’m literally on deaths door right now because of a cold and my shriveled up one brain cell could understand that hint

[last minnow]

yea the second i read that i was like "oh all you do is reach elder"

become what you seek

[bleak python]

Fr

[last minnow]

its so simple

not become part of what you seek

become what you seek

[bleak python]

Facts

Okay back to sleep for me I feel like death

[last minnow]

lol, gn

[compact reef]

I wonder if at some point the % amount you gain will increase idk I'm also 25% on an ss I need like 2 more days of logging in twice so I'll keep a close eye on any slight changes but if there is none see yall in 1000 years

[lime viper]

I hope it's not the 25% xD
I aint sitting around hiding for multiple days/weeks. Like.. let us grind already this is so frustrating. I actively wanna play but besides eldering there is nothing to do

[bleak python]

There’s… PvP? Or.. RP?

[lime viper]

There is PvP

But also RP too

[bleak python]

Yep could do that. That’s something “to do”.

[tame crest]

My asd is still only getting the roughly 3% tick from logging in (1.5x server), no increase.

[mint tulip]

still not a active way to elder though

[last minnow]

i think you unlock it once you hit elder

like a reward

[tame crest]

Having to elder to unlock the ability to elder faster is still baffling.

[mint tulip]

ugh guess i will try eldering as asd

might have to be careful cause pvp

[naive oxide]

gonna be another hide in a bush simulator

[mint tulip]

it wouldn't be so bad if there was more then other dragons and bugs for me to kill

or avoid being killed by

[naive oxide]

yeah

[mint tulip]

like seriously give me something bigger then big bug

[tame crest]

It feels like legacy all over again where its just...log in, get tick, log out.

[naive oxide]

not much food rn means everyone is forced to the same general area

[tame crest]

Nothing interesting to do since there's no new AI that can pose a threat.

[mint tulip]

honestly makes for a very disappoint release

[naive oxide]

yeah until they release the More Food ™️ update, i feel like i can’t really explore much without fear of starving

[tame crest]

I was hoping for the elder thing to be something you can do in the meantime that could be engaging like visiting landmarks or fighting AI or something.

[naive oxide]

same

[tame crest]

Becoming a Jedi in SWG is more engaging because you do content in the meantime.

[sly cedar]

Pookie: Am I a joke to you??The Cave Cutter would like a word with you as well lol.

remember this thing? XD

[sly cedar]

yeahhhhh ..... and depending on the dragon, I'm not looking forward to losing 2 months of my life to gain that kind of endgame status which can then be lost if you want to renest... it really does depend on how this plays out... forced passive ticks though for now...... not good

[sly cedar]

Also , WHY isn't this in #1067213977760841778 ????? am i blind? lololo

[mint tulip]

WHO?

but yea never seen that in game before

as far as I know just the ball bugs and back on before soft release the other type of bug

[sly cedar]

Pookie is teh giant sand worm. The cave Cutter will be like a giant ice spider crab that will be in teh icy moutnain caves inteh homeland of the Frostfel Ice wyvern

[mint tulip]

legit never seen any other npc/enemy in game

[sly cedar]

oh yeah. these will be later lol

[mint tulip]

ah ok

i figured but glad to know Ih adn't some how missed them

[acoustic holly]

FYI someone from the server I’m on posted the following:

They have been doing the elder tick every 12 hours, and they usually just sit and hang out. E blood/spawn stats.

And I obscured their info purely for keeping them from being spammed/harassed.

[native yacht]

Just great, so we have to elder 1 dragon first

Thats definitely more progress I've seen than searching the map like a mad man and trying to doing activities.

[stray notch]

anything new?...

[stray notch]

HOLD ON WHAT HOW

SOMEONE ACTUALLY ALMOST HITTING ELDER IN LESS THAN 2 WEEKS

its actually been more than 2 weeks wow..

[lost lichen]

maybe he is an ASD? It's more faster for them with passive tick

[jolly topaz]

its boosted server

[stray notch]

marsin been getting ticks since day 1, i guess they havent even reached half that

[stray notch]

ah...

[stray notch]

helix can you please keep us upddated with them, especially when they reach 100% i can bet something odd would happen

[woven isle]

I myself got 91.7% on my asd

[knotty pulsar]

Maybe you have to passive elder every species once to unlock an npc. Like an ancient. And you unlock it permanently, so when you get renested, it will still be there. And you can unlock active eldering by talking to that npc with your new dragon.

[pulsar swift]

If this is it, I wonder why I havent found the npc maybe I need to renest and not just respawn

[knotty pulsar]

Are you looking on the same species?
And are you elder right now and looking?

[pulsar swift]

Had IR, FS, SS and ASD on 1-3 passive elder ticks when I was searching for the elder method on my SS, also used my FS for a bit.
I'm just passively eldering atm (and slacking cause its downprioritized) cause I have no motivation to look anymore

Already wasted 60 hours of my life scouring the map for something that clearly dont exist

[knotty pulsar]

I wasn't talking about having elder ticks. I was talking about having a full passive eldered dragon and looking then.

[turbid copper]

it would be a pain for fs and IR

[heavy ridge]

Jao thought we could figure it out in under 2 weeks. If the first step is full eldering passively, the fastest that would take is at minimum 20 days.
Gonna have to disagree with Lime on this one. Partial elder is still elder. Not full elder, but it fulfills the hint. Either first tick or 25%, and then you unlock the method to actively elder, I'd bet money on it.

[compact reef]

Well I'm almost there on none booster server I'll let you know if it's legit theory

[small sedge]

I guess the question would be, when does your growth stage in your stats change from adult to elder? Does it change at 25%?

Like no disrespect, and not trying to crap on anyone, but if I was a hatchie at 25% growth I wouldn't say "oh yeah I'm a juvie" because you turn into a juvie at 100% and the information changes in your stats, so why are we saying that being an adult with 25% growth is an elder? Is it different than hatchie and juvie growth? Genuinely trying to understand.

[deft spruce]

Question, have anyone tried investigating the eldering on the servers where you spawn as an adult?

i didnt know you got spawned as an elder on the spawn as adult servers

[hazy mural]

no i think you only spawn as adult

Elder is an extra stage to my knowlage

[deft spruce]

I just spawned as an elder on a deathmatch server

[hazy mural]

hmm

though thats Deathmatch

a to the Death Fight at full strength

or do they have normal stats

[turbid copper]

normal stats

E or D

[compact reef]

I think what makes in different than the others is you get a point every quarter growth

still just could be nothing

[small sedge]

Yeah but unless the growth stage literally says "elder" when you hit 25%, I don't see how anyone could assume that your dragon is, at that very moment, considered an elder 🤔 Because the game certainly doesn't consider it to be the case.

Plus bios get an extra point, but they aren't called elders since their growth caps at adult and they never hit elder status. So a fourth point =/= elder imo.

[turbid storm]

Getting kinda fed up of riddles at this point

[compact reef]

i think someone said partial elder but still tech elder is what they meant

but i get your point we dont know cx

[small sedge]

I enjoy a good riddle, emphasis on good. 😂 This last one has been the only one I'd call good tho, because it actually gives proper starting direction, but it's far from complete

Or maybe I've just been spoiled by the legend stones in Green Hell that you have to puzzle through

[turbid storm]

Just a straight forward hint would be nice for a change

[small sedge]

For an example of what I mean by a good and complete riddle, and I'm gonna spoiler this one and the breakdown from Green Hell in case anyone intends to play it

||"The death of long nose will do the village good ; When the shaman sticks the skin to the wood ; No hunters will lose way in the mist ; When they hear the song of the beast ; Magic is hidden in the lines ; Never seen how the sun shines ; But when the jungle sheds its tears ; He'll drink the water that appears||

Breakdown: ||You have to build a drum using the skin of a baby tapir, which is the only animal in the game that has lines on it, so that the hunters can hear it and find their way home. Baby tapirs can only be found during rainy nights when pools of water form at certain rock formations.||

[sweet flicker]

Has the idea come up yet that maybe the only way to reliably find the eldering system is to have an elder already that can sense what you need to elder?

[small sedge]

Yes! Jao actually gave another hint specifically for that

I think it's been deleted since tho, since I'm pretty sure it was pulled from patreon chat

[sweet flicker]

Thats what I saw, but I didnt read everything after...I was thinking specifically elders beign able to see different colors when sniffing

huh

weird af

Anyways, that was my weekly contribution, Im still convinced it isnt actually in the game yet.

[small sedge]

Yeah ngl I'm not too happy that the patreon chat gets an exclusive hint on how to elder

"Become what you seek to seek what you become" or something similar iirc, gives a good solid first step (become an elder) but then we're back at square one with "ok what now?"

[timber laurel]

"First step, become that which you seek so that you can seek that which you wish to become"
"you must take the first step before you can climb the elder ladder"
"if you want to elder then you must redacted redacted redacted"
"it is hard to figure out, but cool to do."
"it can be done at any time of day"
"making it more dragonish“
"Its endgame"
Currently list of known hints

[small sedge]

There was also the hint that I said in my last comment. Obvs no proof because screens from the patreon chat get deleted even when that kind of information should be available to everybody and not locked behind a paywall.

[prisma mirage]

I don't understand why hints are being put in pt chat only. Technically you can say that's paid to win. Which I'm not a fan of.

[small sedge]

Yyyyep

[turbid storm]

If we see crimson and gold elders everywhere we'll know why xD

[dawn pelican]

what was the hint?

[small sedge]

Just scroll up a lil my dude

But yeah hints specific to patreon definitely give a very unfair advantage to pateons, especially pvp patreons. Definite p2w vibes which I hadn't gotten from the game til this point.

[prisma mirage]

Yeah that can very much be seen as p2w. I'll be sure to mention that next time I see a hint in pt chat again. if we get another hint that is.

Hopefully it isn't ignored

[regal oriole]

Maybe he put it there cause one was asking and he didn't realise what channel it is. But I dunno. I don't get why he didn't post it in general.

[prisma mirage]

Even if that's the case, pt still aren't allowed to share that info without risk of being banned from pt chat and a warning. Since it is considered leaking info from pt chat.

He definitely should have just put a hint in here or in general.

[small sedge]

I get that it could easily slip notice or something, but it's so easy to rectify if he or a mod pops in and drops the hint here / in gen. Or just... don't delete screenshots with info pertaining to eldering.

[dawn pelican]

oh boi, we are almost at 25k messages in here XD

[prisma mirage]

They still see it as a rule break since the screenshots and info are from pt chat. Unfortunately.

[small sedge]

Also I do have a question How much bigger would a 50% eldered IR be? I was in game with a dude yesterday that claimed he was 50% eldered, and also claimed that his dragon was 0e and had 8a. Considering the upstat struggle and that IRs only gain 1.8% max per day, it doesn't add up to me 😂

Like if he had been 50% should I have needed to crank my neck to look up at him?

[prisma mirage]

I stopped paying attention. I haven't been on in a bit because I was getting burned out and needed a break. But I'm curious as well.

[small sedge]

I'm also p sure that he was full of crap because he was happy to nest into the eggs we had going even after I told him that it'd be a big downgrade since my IR has 9e's 🤣

[knotty pulsar]

Our clan is pretty dedicated to nesting and stats and we're struggling to get 1b to stick.

[small sedge]

cool cool, so either full of crap or somehow cheating 📝

[dawn pelican]

wait, have you reached no d's already??

[knotty pulsar]

Sadly not. But easy no e. Just trying to get the b to stick.

[prisma mirage]

Last I played, we finally had quite a few people with 0e. But the e from grandparents are making it difficult still. But I have a 5c 0e. One of my clan mates had 6c 0e. So getting there. ; ;

[knotty pulsar]

The max amount of c I had hatched was 5.

[dawn pelican]

i am not sure exactly where, but i remember having a wild spawn fs with a recessive c XD i kept getting exactly 1 c on almost all of my babies but only like 4 d's at max, the rest e's XDD

[knotty pulsar]

Let's keep this eldering related 🤣

[prisma mirage]

Whoops

[dawn pelican]

we need rhino in a tutu

[dusk ravine]

Good for you guys, I lost to nesting. Too many eggs for bad results on PVP, just no interest in doing anymore weeks of egg laying for the garbage progress. I am surely a pretty happy person but this new nesting system is making me just sad, it is like opening 100 loot boxes to get the second worst item everytime.

[dawn pelican]

found it, you're welcome

[naive oxide]

i’m just passive eldering my asd and not caring about stats so i can just have it unlocked lol

[vale mortar]

how are you guys doing your breeding are you getting up to A BL then getting rid of e's or are you going to like.. D BL, getting rid of e's then going to next step?

[hot bone]

Getting rid of Es is basically impossible 😭 as far as I’ve experienced it’s very random

[prisma mirage]

We got up to A BL first and then started slowly chipping away the e stats. Now we are doing it with d stats but some e's still pop up (average 1-2e) due to grandparents

[vale mortar]

gotcha, so basically same as what Im doing xD ty

[hot bone]

How are you guys coping? We have a handful of Es and the babies come out with more es than the parents and grandparents 😭

[prisma mirage]

It's a grind for sure

[vale mortar]

I didn't even worry about stats at beginning, just getting to higher bloodline

[prisma mirage]

Honestly not coping very well if I'm being honest many of my clan mates are taking a break

Including myself

Tired of spending 5 hours straight alt tab nesting

[vale mortar]

raising tons of babies with little to no food is hard part

🥲

anyways getting off topic as well, sorry eldering ppl

[stray notch]

is this the broodwatcher?

[dawn pelican]

[rapid radish]

@hazy mural and @deft spruce rn there's a bug with the setting, so instead of adult, you spawn in as elder.

[hazy mural]

ah

i see

[rapid radish]

I see Shen posted the Daily Princess already xD

[dawn pelican]

indeed

[acoustic holly]

Yes I’ll will be updating you all. And yes, ASD. I asked them to let us(in the server) know if there was a different message as they reached 75%. They hit 80% and posted that.

[rapid radish]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067228836632219678/1077336245212037251/slither_medium_pers_texture.gif

Here's Hans ❤️

[dawn pelican]

wheres baby hans, when we need him the most?

also, petition to ofcicially call baby blitz just hans

[rapid radish]

YES

[dawn pelican]

but only specifically the baby

[rapid radish]

New suggestion thread incoming xD

[stray notch]

https://tenor.com/view/day-of-dragons-dod-gif-11511716210890920168

i just found this

no context

[dawn pelican]

ok its official now, brood watcher is just super rhino

only needs the tutu

OMG GIVE BROOD WATCHER A TUTU RIGHT THIS MOMENT

we need a cosmetic pearl for that

[stray notch]

DID U SAY SUPER RHINO???? @super rhino GET THEM BANNED

[dawn pelican]

i didnt ping him XD

[stray notch]

a what.

[rapid radish]

a tutu

[dawn pelican]

the dragon from the gif

or did you mean whats a tutu? xd

[stray notch]

what is a tutu

[rapid radish]

google is a friend xD

[dawn pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-big-ed-big-ed-90day-fiance-before-the90days-tutu-gif-16237615

that

[stray notch]

oh.... i see

[dawn pelican]

[stray notch]

tutu?

[rapid radish]

a rhino princess with a tutu ❤️

[stray notch]

lmao imagine BW with shimmer

ew

[timid patrol]

uhh i see nothing abt "New Elder System" lmao

[rapid radish]

This is the core of the new eldering system xD

[dawn pelican]

shhhh, we are just trying to keep our sanity XD (we dont have any but dont tell anyone)

[dawn pelican]

exactly, give brood a tutu and youll be elder instantly

[timid patrol]

op lol

[dawn pelican]

youll be a stage above ancient, youll be a princess

[steady rock]

I see they finally broke XD someone call the singe squad and take them to the ward

[rapid radish]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-funny-animals-insomnia-cat-tired-crazy-cute-gif-4548358857953075454

[rapid radish]

https://tenor.com/view/good-morning-gif-23225644

[plucky cosmos]

oh boy, we're already at that time again

anything interesting? or just the same as usual

[turbid copper]

usual

[plucky cosmos]

welp, as long as people aren't going too nuts, seems fine to me

https://tenor.com/view/this-is-fine-gif-24177057

[turbid copper]

https://tenor.com/view/ill-waiting-im-well-gif-18430344

[floral bluff]

I love how this once-prestigious chat has become pain gifs

It's saying something

[small sedge]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-is-an-old-friend-pain-painful-gif-12387475

[dawn pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/simpleflips-toad-tower-of-babel-gaming-insane-sanity-gif-23249367

[native yacht]

https://tenor.com/view/pain-gif-25612676

[turbid copper]

https://tenor.com/view/doge-dancing-doge-coin-dogecoin-gif-21839300

[sly cedar]

Good morning

[stray notch]

eldertstystem

figuring out the system is as hard as spelling this ^

[pliant violet]

Eldering passively is in the game, but the possibility of the active way makes me chuckle. Theres no way it's in the game rn when they haven't even released the full update, and don't look like they will release the whole update until the end of this year. Maybe. Honestly, I don't think they will by the end of the year. And then the whole "no more release dates" makes me think they don't like following them. At all. The hints mean pretty much nothing, to become and elder you have to become an elder and then you will know how to elder. Essentially, passive ticks.

[turbid copper]

The thing with the release dates is complicated when you set a date cuz there can be problems, and that's unexpected, and then it's hard to keep track on the date you set, but depends on how the dates are set and stuff

[fading canyon]

The release dates thing was more so because of the backlash, hate and honestly some of the harrassment the dev team has recieved if they had to delay due to needing to polish some stuff up, which is understandable

[turbid yoke]

takes a look because I kept on working on the theory of the elder way by myself

sees we’re still into nothing

dies of exhaustion

[fading canyon]

Im pretty certain active eldering is in the game, we just dont know how

Mainly because both jao and the devs have mentioned that it is in the game

[last minnow]

half see the new hint as you need to elder first to unlock it, the other half is rejecting it

[turbid yoke]

But the question is : TF did we forget ?

[last minnow]

"become what you seek" apparently really has people confused for some reason

even tho its a direct reference to passive ticks

[stuck minnow]

Being in the game and being achiveable could be two diff things though ;-;

[fading canyon]

Thats a really odd thing to lie about just to keep ppl busy until they do impliment it

[fading canyon]

I think its cos ppl wanna look at other options as well

[turbid yoke]

I saw that but after that : the hell are we supposed to do 🥲

[pliant violet]

I wouldn't put it past them to do that until they release the update with the active eldering system.

[turbid yoke]

breaks down the theory board while crying

[fading canyon]

Literally why would they risk losing such a big portion of the fan base, or creating more hateful msgs which really sucks to read for them just because they didnt wanna tell us it wasnt actually in the game

[turbid yoke]

matpat why wouldn’t you help us like you did for fnaf sobs

[last minnow]

well, bc we have a direct hint to what it is and im tired of repeating myself, good luck bc im done with this chat

[pliant violet]

Like previously, we had mushrooms for eldering. Now we don't have mushrooms for eldering, that system is trashed. The fact that they are hinting at what it is rather than allowing people to know is what makes me think it's not in the game yet. And the hints leading to it, they're only talking about the passive ticks. Is the eldering system just passive ticks so you slowly age to elder now instead of actually having an active way to elder?

[fading canyon]

We know that its directly related to passive ticks, Most ppl have acknowledged that, But we also want to explore other options as well, Just in case

[tardy perch]

The hints Jao has said actually hint to there being a method BEYOND the passives. So no, it's not just passive ticks, there is something else in the game. WE just haven't unlocked it yet

[fading canyon]

But we dont know anything for sure, Shrooms were also hinted about before ppl figured it out, For all we know all we need to actually unlock eldering is to get to a specific % in passive eldering

[pliant violet]

They also didn't even release the full map. Which means whatever it is, likely isn't even in the game with the rest of the map.

[fading canyon]

That doesnt even make sense lol, By that point we will just elder by quests

[turbid copper]

Doesn't have to be map related

[fading canyon]

Eldering has been apart of the game for a while now, the only reason we have to figure it out currently is because questing for elder isnt in the game yet

[tardy perch]

It actually isn't location-based says one of the hints

[pliant violet]

We still don't have a lot of stuff that we used to have, such as skin crafting, being able to grind our dragons to 18a, etc.

[tardy perch]

...wut? We can still get to all A's...what are you talking about?

[turbid copper]

That's not related to eldering tho

[pliant violet]

We can literally only do the stat grinding with the nurse dragon, and that isn't even in the game yet either. What gives you the impression that the eldering system is in it?

[fading canyon]

Again nothing youve said actually really relates to eldering

[tardy perch]

Also the old way of skin crafting isn't gonna be in, they made it quite clear it's being replaced wit hthe coming swatch system

[pliant violet]

I'm making a point. Majority of the stuff we expected isn't even in the game. The eldering likely isn't either.

[tardy perch]

Don't say we dude. I didn't expect any of the things you said because I keep track of what the devs are trying to actually do

[fading canyon]

All things that have been stated to not be in the game, totally opposite of eldering, which has been stated to be in the game

Multiple times

[turbid copper]

The eldering system doesn't need a lot of work like the other stuff i assume, that can be coded and make it unlockable or event

[pliant violet]

Sorry you were expecting a soft release for this update? When they stated they would release everything in December?

[turbid copper]

and i guess it was being worked on a long time before the update

[tardy perch]

I know eldering is in because the lead dev who codes the game gave hints that for sure are more than just 'passive ticks'. And I'm also a tester.

[pliant violet]

I just think the hints are to keep people busy until they actually impliment it in a "hot fix"

[turbid copper]

you can't add these things in a hot fix tho

[tardy perch]

I do not thin kthe lead dev is malicious like that to openly lie.

[fading canyon]

Definitely not ^

[tardy perch]

And I hope you rethink your stance on this later. People are gonna hit full elder somewhere in the coming days, and something tells me Jao stil lis gonna be a while for the next update that supposedly is the 'deadline' in figuring it out. I hope you rethink your stance then

For now, I think we should just drop it, because no one here wants to be convinced that it's not in the game. We are hear in this channel to figure it out as best we can

[stuck minnow]

What if no one figures it out even by the time the next update comes out?

[fading canyon]

^^^

[tardy perch]

I'm not going to think about 'what ifs'. I'm focusing on the present.

I thin kyou guys forgot I'm in the testing discord for this game. We'll know when the next update is close. And it's not

[pliant violet]

[tardy perch]

Just saying. I'm not trying to brag. But being a tester means I know a little more about the development pace than you. There's several people who are very high into the eldering passive process. Have patience. We'll see if this is the right way or not. Till then I can at least try to convince Jao to NOT do any changing to the elder process. I'm not alone in trying to convince him either. So just relax, get them passive ticks (I'm doing the same) and relaaaax

He's too busy trying to fix the bigger problem right now which is the ping kicking of players who shouldn't be kicked anyway. So we got time

[pliant violet]

Ah the ping kicks, kinda interesting to see what went wrong there.

[steady rock]

You mean "tester"tester? Depper Than the regular patreon/ks testers? Because I didn't see any info or testing done on the eldering System ín the test server

[tardy perch]

I mean the test discord, same one as you are in if you are mentioning something like this.

And the lack of eldering 'testing' isn't why I said that. It's the lack of things being tested right now that makes me think the next update isn't that close. I mean I could be wrong, obviously.

[prisma mirage]

Was thinking this too but wasn't going to say anything bc I also am in the test discord

[tardy perch]

It's been quiet in the testing server yeah, but the last thing was him mentioning the ping kicks, so that must still be giving him trouble. So I guess the difficulty of fixing that is buying us more time to figure out eldering at least. So...bright side? XD

[steady rock]

Ah I see I know there are some deeper testers I just don't know who, that's why I asked

[tardy perch]

In other news, looks like I woke up soon enough to where I most likely can get my second elder tick for the day. I know people can still beat me to full elder, but I'm still gonna try, just in case said people remain clamped on if anything happens afterwards

[steady rock]

Next monday i'll get my internet back so I can break the game too

[acoustic holly]

Update from person on my server this morning: they did not see additional strange message. But they are now 91% eldered and seeing the size difference for sure.

[tardy perch]

Ooo they are 91%? What server?

[sly cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-headesk-bang-headbang-dessert-gif-17584997

[novel oak]

i tried go on the test server and it had nothing available so i came back here

[tardy perch]

I dunno why you bothered looking when I had said thetest server has been super quiet lately XD

[small sedge]

Possibly because of this 🤣

[dusk ravine]

This chat is literally more fun than the game it's talking about now.

[rapid radish]

This is my new "general chat" xD

[next flint]

You have a server?

[novel oak]

Ulta, i check if there is a test server on the actual game every so often, just in case

[tardy perch]

Ah I see. Usually it's not public unless you spot an announcement.

I also wanna know where this 91% to elder person's server is!

[rapid radish]

it's probs a growth boost server 🙂

[acoustic holly]

Our server. Just updating them on our 91%

[tardy perch]

But what server? IS it public so we can get on it?

[acoustic holly]

Didn’t want to put their info out there

[tardy perch]

I wanna be there to see if anything happens

[acoustic holly]

Yes it’s public. It’s celestial sanctuary

[tardy perch]

I seee. I might visit today then.

[next flint]

@acoustic holly I was just confused

Are they hitting elder today?

[acoustic holly]

Tomorrow probably if not Friday

[next flint]

She's resilient,

[small sedge]

iirc Helix isn't releasing who it is cos she doesn't want them bombarded with questions

[next flint]

Yeah as soon as we get any info you'll be the first to know

[tardy perch]

Awww we won't hurt them...I'm guessing it's pve?

[rapid radish]

I just hope something happens once they hit elder, ty for keeping us updated! ^^

[next flint]

Yeah just PvE for now

[next flint]

We hope so too

[tardy perch]

I mean, we might still spot them if they are almost elder. they do be huge lol But I promise I won't bother anyone. I just wanna hang out and see if something happens

[dusk ravine]

They hit elder and get a message... Congratulations you are the first of your kind, there will be no more until your die. enjoy the hunt!

[next flint]

Everybody is welcome any time, no issues.

It's quieter now than end of Legacy.

[small sedge]

Their life then turns into a constant annoyance of turning down pvp challenges and trying to get to food before everyone else so they don't starve to death

And with the current lack of bugs, tactical starvation would be an effective way to off someone even in PvE

[tardy perch]

I doubt it'll be that bad,

[next flint]

We haven't had anyone starve to death yet, even with 40+ players, unless they doing it quietly.

[pliant ice]

Idk why ”tactical starvation” made me laugh

[tardy perch]

If they can keep a 91% to elder dragon fed now, they most certainly can when it hits 100 too

[pliant ice]

Are they on ASD?

[tardy perch]

My guess is yes with those percentages

On a 2x growth server too most likely.

[next flint]

Yes to growth,

[pliant ice]

I’d assume so but you never know

[next flint]

@acoustic holly are they ASD?

[acoustic holly]

Yes talking about J.

[next flint]

Mmhmm

[pliant ice]

Gotcha, ty 🙏

[next flint]

We'll keep you posted ❤️

[civic niche]

Hey guys, I haven't been around for a bit. Did anyone figure out the active eldering or is it still just passive?

[bleak python]

There was a hint basically saying passive elder fully one time to unlock it

[civic niche]

oh really?

that's a bit annoying tbh

[bleak python]

“Become that which you seek so that you can seek that which you wish to become”

[civic niche]

wow that's a giant bummer

[bleak python]

Tbh I like it

[civic niche]

any idea if it's server or account based?

[bleak python]

Probably server

Like mela is

[civic niche]

idk that takes at least a month depending on the dragon and if you are grinding the ticks every 12hrs

that's rough

It's time gating and I've never been a fan of time gating

[bleak python]

I’d rather elder be rare than everyone and their mom in a mega clan gate keep it

[civic niche]

it's not even rare lol you just log in and log out

it's just lazy

[bleak python]

It’s the first step

It’s not the whole thing

[civic niche]

I know, but it's still time gated lol

[bleak python]

For all we know may be able to skip passive leveling after someone gets the next steps

[rapid radish]

We'll know soon enough, if passively eldering unlocks the active way, luckily :p

[bleak python]

It’s not really that big of an issue either. Eldering is end game and not supposed to just be able to do it in 2-3 days.

[civic niche]

Irrelevant lol you have end game content locked behind time. That's dumb

[bleak python]

I mean have you never played an MMORPG?

90% of them lock content behind allotted runs a DAY. Some dungeons you can only run ONCE a day for a CHANCE at what you need.

& this game isn’t fully completed and there is a good chance there will be more than one way to do something

Even some other survival games lock content behind times — in ex: crops that take real life time to grow etc

[faint tendon]

It's rather exactly because it's incomplete that a 55 duo-daily login commitment isn't particularly realistic

[civic niche]

This isn't an MMORPG so to compare the two is comparing apples and oranges. Secondly, just because one bad mechanic is IN an MMORPG doesn't make it less of a bad mechanic

[bleak python]

Then don’t play

[civic niche]

lmao

your answer is don't play? For real?

[bleak python]

If you don’t like it that much — do something else? Pointless to cry about something when there is likely other ways to do it that just aren’t unlocked yet. I’m sorry it’s not achievable in a few hours of game play but expecting that is unrealistic.

[heady trench]

And at least you still need to do stuff in the MMORPGs, not just a "turn the game on every 12 hours" simulator
Besides mmos having obviously a lot more content, you get actually rewarded for playing more

[zealous urchin]

If you're not willing to put in the effort to grind for elder, go back to legacy where u can mushy spawn camp.

[dry mauve]

Any updates on the elder front?

[sly cedar]

Yeah I hate games that do that actually. I am in control of my time and if I wanted to spend a set amount grinding or farming for something I will. I really hate it when I game gives me limitations to what I can do, especially when I know I can do it RIGHT now. >:/

[zealous urchin]

over here crying about a daily login requirement for passive ticks when you know ur gonna be on everyday anyways, and even if u cant get on everyday i mean thats on you.

[rapid radish]

We are waiting for a person to reach elder by passively and see if that unlocks the active method 🙂

[sly cedar]

Reminds me of Arch Age. I lost 4 years of my life to that game. Was fun until I felt it became a second job. That's not fun

[civic niche]

First I'm not crying about it. I'm just voicing an opinion. Just because it's different than yours doesn't make me upset lol Secondly, I never said it needed to be unlockable in a few hours. I'm just saying the whole thing shouldn't be locked behind a month of just collecting passive ticks. It's a bad mechanic IN MY OPINION, if that's in fact what it is.

[civic niche]

Mushies were also bad because they were easily camped.

[bleak python]

I’ve said my peace on it and you don’t have to like it, as that is your right, but as I’ve said and will continue to say it’s unrealistic to expect end game content be unlockable by a few measly hours of gameplay. NO game will do that, sorry to tell ya.

[heady trench]

Other games have a ton more to do than this game. If someone wants to spend their time playing the game for 3 days straight to become the only form of thing there is after nesting and becoming an adult, they should be allowed to

[civic niche]

Some people have lives and can't get on every day. So locking them out is BS, especially if they had a determined personality and could spend more time over a weekend or something working towards eldering.

[civic niche]

Again, I never said it should be unlocked in a few hours. Don't put words in my mouth

[bleak python]

I’m not putting words in your mouth Im speaking in a general sense. Please refrain from pinging me again.

[dry mauve]

do you happen to know the elder tick % of an A BL asd with E and D stats?

[civic niche]

Turn off your pings or cry about it 😂

[bleak python]

Only one crying here is you. Lmao

[zealous urchin]

wooo someones angy

Why you so mad bro

[rapid radish]

To my knowledge, the passive tick is always the same, not depended on stats or BL.

[sly cedar]

Or at least soemthign else on the side. Liek soemoen mentioned before. It wouldn't be so bad if you had a side quest to do. Something else to occupy your time because you would at least be making good progress on something else you want. Right now, we literally have nothing else to do. Can't renest for stats because that destroys the dragon and all the progress. :/ (assuming you have the stats you are content with at that time)

[civic niche]

I think it goes based off the dragon tier so depends on the dragon

[dry mauve]

whats the % for the first tick

[rapid radish]

Hey, pls calm it down, if you need to fight, do it somewhere else, pls 🙂

[civic niche]

Not even remotely mad lol

[bleak python]

It’s okay I’ll fix it an easier way. Now I get no pings 💜

[zealous urchin]

You're malding lol

[faint tendon]

They're just mirroring something ruu said earlier

[rapid radish]

for ASD it's 2.1% 🙂

[steady rock]

yes MMOs use this mechanic and a lot of people think it's horrible even ín the MMO community (and p2w since more than not you can Pay to reset the dungeon) but a key difference is, ín an MMO there's S lot more to do besides these timegated stuff so you don't get bored, and can engage with the game ín different ways, ín DoD the Best Way to Elder right now is to login, grab your tick, logout, repeat for 2 months because if you die, you lose 2 months worth of progress which is insane and shouldn't be the case

[bleak python]

Moving on from the child - ASD ticks aren’t based on bloodline I don’t believe

[zealous urchin]

Nah they're being disrespectful out of frustration and its obvious

[dry mauve]

On a server like scaleworks pve My asd that was A BL with a D in Life got an elder tick of 3.1%

[civic niche]

yeah and i think IR is like 0.9%

[faint tendon]

Agree to disagree

[pliant ice]

Let’s not fight guys :) take a break if need be

[rapid radish]

Bc they have growth boost

[zealous urchin]

fair

[bleak python]

It’s not the only way, it’s the first step in many ways.

[civic niche]

Lol now we're resorting to name calling? Yet i'm the child. Ok

[dry mauve]

Still i think we should be looking into not only BL but also Sub Stats as well.

[civic niche]

No I was mirroring lol Because it's a dumb argument

[dry mauve]

If we can get rid of the Ds and Es we might figure something out, jao mentioned before wanting Sub Stats to mean something

[bleak python]

Nothing to fight about, I can’t see anything they say anymore (:

[heady trench]

Ignore them, just baiting you at this point

[rapid radish]

You can look into it, but I asked days ago if ppl have A BL and those ppl said their ticks are the same 🙂

[steady rock]

Currently IT is and if we understand the hint correctly it's intended to be

[zealous urchin]

They're malding, its funny to watch

[civic niche]

I'm not even bothered tbh lol

[dry mauve]

Not the BL the Sub stats, ive been working on asd on scale works for a little bit now and we almost have no Es left

[pliant ice]

Please block/mute eachother and ignore, let’s not drag out something unecessary.

[civic niche]

I don't think BL has anthing to do with the eldering ticks. It's based off tier

[rapid radish]

Well if you find something, do tell 🙂

[civic niche]

Higher tiers will taking longer due to a smaller percentage growth

[pliant ice]

Hopefully once that person from before gets 100% on their passive elder we’ll get the next step/hint

[rapid radish]

Here's hoping 😄

[minor hinge]

my asd is a 52.8% so i half way

[steady rock]

I still think ticks shouldn't be "every 12 hour" but reward Time spent ingame, like you get a tick for every hour played (make them smaller so it's not faster, but still reward Time spent ín game and not offline

[sly cedar]

Did you notice anything different besides the "you feel stronger..."? Anything else happen?

[minor hinge]

no just you feel stronger

[sly cedar]

K. Ty.

[civic niche]

What's the % on FS?

[sly cedar]

0.9 per tick. Roughly. Like IR.

[civic niche]

yeah

[bleak python]

https://discord.com/channels/576933363672285186/1067202526878896248 Should put that there. It’ll get lost to time in this chat.

[civic niche]

so IR and FS are Class 5, SS is 4, ASD is 3, and BIO is 2

[steady rock]

I already suggested IT once, a long while ago and IT got downvoted without any reason given

[sly cedar]

I'm telling ya, if one dragon can unlock elder in soem capacity for all other species similarly to Mela skin, nobody in their right mind would ever use another dragon to start the process...*(other than ASD sorry)

[bleak python]

Maybe ya gotta go a bit more into detail with how the functionality will work? Not sure tbh. People like to downvote things without reading just bc it’s got the most reactions.

[heady trench]

And funnily enough, the shortest eldering times are dlc dragons
Who was it that mentioned p2w earlier because patreon is getting elder hints and not allowed to share? Lmao

[dry mauve]

Huh?!?!?!?

[bleak python]

I’m pretty sure it was shared regardless, the hint

Dunno who shared it originally tho

[heady trench]

And people got warned for it

[dry mauve]

its only cause ive been asking thats where i get the hints LMAO

[civic niche]

Where? I haven't seen anything on patreon about eldering

[dry mauve]

Its wasnt based off of that. It was based off of people sharing patreon exclusive posts.

[sly cedar]

I never thought about nit like that... I suppose ina stretched sense, that would kinda be p2w.. lolol the smallest dragon that can elder, is a DLC lol. BUT it still isn't fully p2w because anyone can gain access to the dragon without spending a dime.

[minor hinge]

there my asd

[bleak python]

I mean to be fair they aren’t supposed to share anything from those chats and they know that ; but yeah. Also they were sharing content that wasn’t meant to be shared ie photos of future content — not the elder hints.

[small sedge]

Yesterday in the patreon channel in this server, the only useful eldering hint was shared

[heady trench]

No, it was directly related to that elder hint

[sly cedar]

That "hint" we all have now was released yesterday supposedly in Patreon chat and someone snagged a screenshot and shared it here. Rules are you can't share that stuff without permission. The argument was, why was that hint told specifically in Patreon chat where the rest of us can't see it? Seems fishy and exclusive. But Jao coulda have made a simple mistake where he thought he was answering. We won't know.

[dry mauve]

Its because i asked for it.

[heady trench]

Technically sure, asd can be accessed by those that don't own it, but that again brings the issue of solo play, especially on pvp, or simply groups that don't own it for one reason or another

[dry mauve]

I responed to jaos message and asked for a hint regarding eldering LMAOOO

[sly cedar]

Oh! 🙂 well we thank you for finding out for us haha

[civic niche]

Yeah that's BS. Hopefully he just didn't notice what thread he was in. If you're going to release a hint it should be for everyone. Everyone PAID to play the game's content and eldering is part of that content.

[steady rock]

You can gain access to IT through the people who paid for IT, so eventho you weren't the one forking out the money, IT was paid for...and tbh I don't like when the decision to grant or denie an ability/creature/class is given to Other players exclusively, since they are never objective ín their decisions

[bleak python]

People just don’t listen lol

[smoky hatch]

While the logic in this makes some sense, its gonna make me really sad if this is the case.

Feels like it contradicts the "passiving isnt the main way to elder" statement.

[dry mauve]

I get it but that was the channel he was in at the time thats why i asked. As for restricted channels the warning patreons got wasnt in regards to the hint it was based off of non patreons getting BTS info on umcoming stuff

[civic niche]

Then it should be shared in other chats lol Everyone has been asking for hints. He only answers someone in patreon? That's still sus lol

[rapid radish]

I do think he knew what chat he was in, he has said that he will take a break from general chat. 🤷‍♀️

[heady trench]

From the case that I know, someone received a warning specifically because of the elder hint, not because of unshared content

[bleak python]

It’s because someone was copy pasting lore tidbits and screenshots in here that haven’t been released anywhere except patreon. Had nothing to do with eldering.

[dry mauve]

Look as mentioned you dont go tagging devs, i responeded to a message jao made in patreon chat, regarding elder hints.

If it was in general where jao was talking i would have asked in general.

But he was not in general so i asked in the chat he was in.

[small sedge]

Mazy I don't think anyone is upset with you, it's moreso that unless people broke rules then Patreon donators would have an unfair advantage.

[civic niche]

I mean i understand what you're saying but he has shown up in general and people have asked for hints and his reply was redacted

[cunning matrix]

what was the hint?

[dry mauve]

Because as i have mentioned several times you do not tag devs. you can only ask in chats they are in out of respect

[sly cedar]

Not to mention, of we are really gonna play the time lock game on certain things, who's to stop peeps form switching over to a community server that speeds up that growth? No point in playing on an Official IF that's your goal. Just seems so easy to circumvent...

[dry mauve]

No rules were broken,

[steady rock]

And we are realy glad for IT, but we can't look past the fact that he only responded to/ín patreon chat, while everyone was begging for hím for hints ín every channel possible

[civic niche]

So my point is, he'll answer a reply in patreon with a hint but answers a reply in general with redacted. That's kinda messed up when everyone paid for the game and the content.

[sly cedar]

That's understandable. Spoiling future content is a definite Nono

[bleak python]

There have also been screenshots of future map content being shared in places it should not be so it’s on them for getting caught and in trouble. The elder hint has nothing to do with people getting in trouble

[small sedge]

? People are not allowed to share screenshots from the patreon channel. A rule was definitely broken because I saw a screenshot of something from the patreon channel, the content of which was the only useful hint given to date.

[cunning matrix]

what was the hint?

[smoky hatch]

Thats up to the individual. I'd imagine that your eldering process is tethered to your acct per server.

People will still play on official servers if theyre populous, or if there are friends there. But having a time lock in general kinda sucks.

[civic niche]

Not sure

[rapid radish]

I didn't break any official rules, re-posted a ss that a patreon gave in this chat and I got a warning 😄

[bleak python]

And maybe he responded there because every time he talks in general chat he gets harassed where as in patreon chat people actually treat him like a human idk

[civic niche]

It's still bias

[small sedge]

@cunning matrix @civic niche I think I have the screenshot open on my browser at home because I anticipated it getting removed, I'll double-check for exact wording once I'm home but it's something similar to "you must become that which you seek before you seek that which you wish to become"

[dry mauve]

Here ill post the hints i ahve

[steady rock]

As I said he didn't need to be ín general chat to give a hint to the public, just make an announcment, or ask Parrot to deliver the message

[dry mauve]

Tip 1

• If you want to elder then you must Redacted Redacted Redacted

Tip 2

• So guys you have to Redacted Redacted Redacted. Then you obviously have to go to Redacted to get Redacted

Tip 3

• Figuring out how to elder, difficult.
• Eldering once you know how to do it, cool.

Tip 4

• The only hint I will give you is that you must take the first step before you can climb the elder ladder.
• Quality of life.

Tip 5

• Its Endgame.

Tip 6

• First step, become that which you seek so that you can seek that which you wish to become
• Steps on a ladder

[vale mortar]

.>

[small sedge]

And sure, maybe it was an honest mistake that he posted in the patreon channel without thinking about how not all people have access to it at the time.

But that doesn't mean it isn't something that could be addressed by him or a mod (like whichever mod keeps deleting PT screenshots in here) so that there isn't a P2W advantage.

[civic niche]

I mean if they know it was put somewhere already, then they should put it everywhere and just make an announcement like Hazriel said.

[bleak python]

Sigh

[sly cedar]

Seeing that list of tips upsets me. Liek, only tip 4 and 6 have any real relevance at this point... 🥲😠

[tardy perch]

I have a deep hunch that tomorrow we'll at least find out more info about eldering

[vale mortar]

I have to agree, locking elder behind time is.. well time consuming lol. at least make it more ticks per few hours or something if passive ticking is going to be the only way to elder. I want to play and enjoy the game, not play log in, log out simulator until my dragon is elder. Im too old to wait a long time for one elder 🙂

[small sedge]

It was mentioned that it would be a grind tho

[tardy perch]

If you only have to do it once, it's not really a bad process.

[smoky hatch]

I mean. Mushies were a grind before.

[tardy perch]

I'd be more worried about what we have to do for the SECOND non-passive way

[rapid radish]

I think this is the case; he said "first step" is to become what you seek. Imo it's "become an elder passively first to unlock the active method and then you can actively elder."

[tardy perch]

That's what I think too. And someone in this chat is reaching 100% elder tomorrow most likely. So we might find more info tomorrow

[sly cedar]

Optimistically, you are correct. However, of this proves not to unlock for all the other dragons.... it will be a very long time to achieve that endgame... for every dragon that dies.... imagine PvP. I don't play it, but I'm going to assume you need to simply dust yourself off ans try again, yet if it proves to be THAT time consuming per dragon... WOW.

I understand prolonging the life of your game... but your players need soemthign fun and engaging to fill that time and to keep them coming back.

[tardy perch]

And the devs do plan to add that. It's called Fantasy mode

It's just not ready yet

[sly cedar]

Honestly I know very little about that mode. :0

[bleak python]

It’s basically MMORPG mode. Questing, etc.

[tardy perch]

Picture what we have, except add the pearls into the game, quests, and boss a.i to fight

And I know they wanna do much more than that. But time means they gotta do a priority ladder

[heady trench]

Even if it's slow, besides the 12 hr ticks you should be rewarded for traveling distances, that way it'll still be pretty slow but at least you can do something and have a reason to stay online

[sly cedar]

Multiplayer? Or single player?

[tardy perch]

My clan plans to immediately move to a Fantasy server when they become available. Because when one is fully done and ready, my clan can hunt A.i for really good pearls in our spare time while nesting, while keeping on our toes from elementals (cuz we wanna do DvE), and then quests whenever we see fit

[bleak python]

If you feel like you have a better way to unlock elder put it in suggestions; that’s what the channel is for.. it will only get flooded away in here & the devs definitely won’t see it.

[bleak python]

Not sure

[tardy perch]

Multiplayer

[sly cedar]

Now THIS I can get behind and sounds like fun. You have my attention. Lol

[tardy perch]

Singleplayer will be it's own thing

[civic niche]

I get that passive leveling needs to be slow, but to have that as the first step to unlock the whole active process is a big yikes. Then if it's per server/ per dragon it's so much worse. It's not a fun/enjoyable process regardless but it can get a lot worse very quickly depending on how it's set up.

[steady rock]

Isn't fantasy Mode supposed to be pve only?

[tardy perch]

Ideally the devs have it so it's a per server unlock and you only gotta do it once

[sly cedar]

If it works out, yay! If not, I feels super bad for PvPers...

[tardy perch]

I think so yes. PVE and DvE. But I'm not positive. All I know is Survival mode is the one without pearls and quests

It's possible PVP servers will have it too but don't quote me

[sly cedar]

If its more like MMO style like they sakd, that wouldn't surprise me. Some games make it work, and I'm sure you'd be able to tweak settings.

[steady rock]

Then that won't help the boredom and struggling of people ön PvP servers

[tardy perch]

Like I said, I really don't know. All I know is survival mode doesn't have pearls and quests, which is what EVERY official server we have now is

there's not enough info in my brain that's solid about fantasy mdoe servers. Hence why my clan is kinda just doing very sparse playing

[bleak python]

Pretty sure what will set fantasy apart from everything else is the NPC’s & Quests. — I’m assuming boss ai and elementals will still be a thing in PvP (this is just me speculating on what has been said previously).

[steady rock]

I mean there are plenty of MMOs with the blend of PvP and pve working quiet good, I hate to Always bring the same Examples, but black desert is a fully PvP enabled game (after you reach lvl 60) and It's the most peaceful place I ever played XD As a solo lifeskiller I have never encountered a griefer during my 1k hours played XD

[tardy perch]

PVP, DvE, and PvE is seperate from Fantasy and Survival.

think of Survival and Fantasy as the parent type of server first, then you can make it any of the other three idealy. But I dunno if it'll be that way entirely. I HOPE it can be though

I gues think of it as, if you want the Isle experience, pick a survival server lol. If you'd rather the pearls and quests and a more rpg-like feel, fantasy probably. It gives the game a ton of flexibility for player types that way

[sly cedar]

Lolol, sadly I never got too far into Black Desert back then and that was all because hardware issues, but I dis want to try it. However, I did play Arch Age wimhcih forcefully threw you into PvP zones when you reached a certain level lol. And I occasisonally still play Guild Wars 2. It has pve, World v World, and pvp. And I mostly avoid pvp type stuff, but that's personal preference. So yeah, i know some games TOTALLY make it work and well. 🙂

You know, it could be cool for players if they like the fantasy pve aspect but also a touch pf pvp, and there could be like instances or matches with rewards if you participate. Would get your feet wet. 😄(sorry off topic of thread lol)

[tame crest]

From what I've seen in the server configs, boss AI is also specific to fantasy mode.

[steady rock]

Bdo is kinda unique, when you reach lvl 60 you get the option to stop lvling and stay PvP protected, you can still do everything just don't gain more skills since those are lvl locked, if you choose to continue lvling you'll be PvP enabled, but even then folks are generaly very civilized, and don't just murder each others, even the right to farm mobs are decided with duels (the winner can farm In the area) the Only Time I got murdered was when I forgot to switch servers during clan wars

Clan wars are held every 5 days on the 1st server of each cluster (for Example there's a cluster of servers called Calpheon 1-8, and clan wars are on Calpheon 1) the map is segmented into nodes and each node can be conquered by a clan who then Will receive taxes, exclusive daily quests and buffs As long As they occupy the node, every 5 days the ownership resets and they battle capture the flag style for control

[heavy ridge]

Gotta be honest, as much as I'm hoping one of us stumbles over the active eldering mechanic by accident, I'm scared to stumble over the ancient mechanic by accident after/if it gets added.

[steady rock]

Is IT even confirmed? I thought Jao said only npcs Will be ancients

[turbid copper]

Last time I heard, he wasn’t sure if it’s gonna be only npc or playable too

But yeah idk

Would be cool tho, something else to grind lol

[tardy perch]

I hope he doesn't add players being able to be ancient. Cuz last I heard, if he DOES let them, your dragon will just be ancient for a time window and then it'll die. It's really super pointless...

[turbid copper]

Would be understandable in PvP, but in pve there’s no point honestly

[heavy ridge]

Hense the fear of stumbling over it accidently 😅

[wintry turtle]

Never expected to see someone mention BDO, now I'm reminiscing over my Sorceress and Dark Knight🤣

[steady rock]

I'm a tamer main, gotta love the combat with Heilang 😄

[mild smelt]

any new news?

[steady rock]

How New news? The newest news are from yesterday

[mint tulip]

at this point I am going to just log on as asd till elder then try and do things with other dragons

[naive oxide]

Now that we kinda know we have to passive to get anywhere, it’s made my gameplay so much more boring :( I don’t want to have to log on just for elder ticks and then log out because there’s nothing else to do rn

[mint tulip]

this is why I play helldivers or rimworld after I get the tick

already at 4 percent only like 22 more days to go

[naive oxide]

yeah, today i actually jumped onto legacy to see all the pretty skins only to find a grand total of 11 people on the official pve they have

might have to start jumping on palworld or something lmao

[mint tulip]

if only there was more to do in game

[naive oxide]

^

rn my adhd hyperfocus is Dragons ™️ so i have such a hard time playing anything else atm lol

[mint tulip]

mine is growing communities and spreading freedom while commiting warcrimes

[naive oxide]

i love that

keep doing that

[mint tulip]

yes this is pretty apt to both games i named

well less growing communities in hd2

[naive oxide]

i'm 33% on my asd elder, i'm not even sure how many days i have left

x2 server for anyone that can math

[mint tulip]

.... 18 days maybe less

probably 15?

[naive oxide]

sweet

tyty

[mint tulip]

rough estimate btw

[sly cedar]

I went back to Monster Hunter World... there's dragons in that! Lolol

[agile edge]

I think passive eldering should be based on the amount of active play time you put into the game and not 2 mins of playing every 12 hours. Personally, I’m only able to get 1 tick per day due to work, yet on average I play about 6+ hours a day. With the current eldering system, I will be putting in more time but eldering behind everyone else. Hopefully we figure out what the active eldering system is soon.

[mint tulip]

^^^^^^^^^ should be on play time more then 12 ticks

[sly cedar]

What about those people who can't play that often due to their work or life? I'm not saying this isn't fair per sey, I'm just saying to consider everything from every angle if you can. I know you can't please everyone.

[bleak python]

A lot of people seem to agree with you Stem, should put it in suggestions.

uh...

[vestal rose]

i would say less than 10 even

if u do the math its 8 days

[sly cedar]

Better than 20

[vestal rose]

so... a week and you're elder, congrats xD

but thats also considering u get every single tick possible (2 ticks a day)

[sly cedar]

Nevermind. I'm not that invested. Lol

[next flint]

We have someone who hopefully should be elder tomorrow, if we find out anything that's useful

[late venture]

[next flint]

We're keeping an eye out, they've given us constant updates so far.

Not entirely sure what we're looking for, but that's all I got to offer, sorry

[devout anvil]

fun

[native yacht]

fun

[next flint]

Mmhmm

[half hound]

SO FELT

[naive oxide]

guys im talking to a 100% elder asd

they said they are at 100% elder but nothing actually happened when they hit it

[native yacht]

WHHAATTTTT

ARE YOU KIDDING ME

[dusk ravine]

100% after should still be 1 tick depending how it is coded

[pliant violet]

[naive oxide]

huge mf

[woven isle]

was just about to make a comment lol

[native yacht]

he passive eldered all the way?

[naive oxide]

they also said they've been "100% adult" but it hasn't actually switched to 'elder' status

[woven isle]

ye i did

[native yacht]

OH WAIT A MINUTE

[woven isle]

i'm 100%, but still adult

[naive oxide]

oh hey serious lmaO

[native yacht]

have they gone to the ancient water?

[half hound]

what server is this on

[woven isle]

guardian dragons

[woven isle]

the what now?

[native yacht]

Serious are you the elder ASD?

[woven isle]

ye

[pliant violet]

And people were confused why I said the system probably isn't even in the game yet lmao

[native yacht]

this is ancient lake

have you touched this?

[woven isle]

but i'm still on adult stage but still 100% so i should have become elder i guess? not with my asd no

what's the cords of that lake?

switching back to asd lol

[native yacht]

i dont have coords but gimme a sec

[woven isle]

someone got it, on the server

[native yacht]

this is just a test anyways dont know if it'll work

[woven isle]

well we're about to find out

[native yacht]

can you go there and see what happens

OK BET!

we are all waiting

[naive oxide]

we're both heading there

we'll let ya know lol

[native yacht]

if not there then take him to river where the yellow fireflies are if you know where that is spider

i will pour all 93 hours of scouting the map into this, everything will be tested

[half hound]

we are all praying for yall bc ive lost my sanity on this

[native yacht]

exactly what Mira said. word for word.

[steady rock]

Poor asd Will be dragged across every puddle and rock on the map XD

[native yacht]

@naive oxide are yall in a pve or pvp server??!? if pvp i highly recommend holding off and not risking it

[woven isle]

guardian dragons PVE

[dusk ravine]

Sometimes 100% is a tick and you still have 1 tick left to reach elder.

I wouldn't jump the gun but you can try touching water, just saying you might have to wait until your next tick to be elder.

[native yacht]

ooh ok gucci

it sounds like hes been at 100% for some time now? @woven isle

[woven isle]

got the tick to hit 100% 30 min ago

[dusk ravine]

I would wait until next tick timer before going to ham across the map, but you do you, just don't burn out 👍

[half hound]

thts just odd

[proper patio]

Id be curious for the coords too, kinda wanna check this spot out lol

[rapid radish]

16, if you get both ticks every day 🙂

[pliant violet]

Well check out scaleworx deathmatch. See if theres a way to be an elder. I think it's just 100% adult there too

[naive oxide]

is the ancient water by elder tree or hideaway?

[native yacht]

bruh i thought you knew

[stuck minnow]

I think it's somewhere north of boot lake?

It's been a while since I've been near it tho, could be wrong

[woven isle]

well i ain't got not clue where we are going xD

[native yacht]

gimme a sec to hop on DM

[rapid radish]

There are some hidden decimals, so you might not actually be 100%, game just rounds it up 🙂