#New Elder System

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tame crest
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It not ingame.

native yacht
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oh ok then this is nonsense to aide us in eldering

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i am sick of flying all over this map now

chrome yarrow
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theres a weird patch of snow near the smaller snowy mountain that looks unfinished and theres an invisible wall...maybe something will be thre in the future?

tame crest
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Its the home area of frostfel wyverns and the snowslayer worms.

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I think they're gonna do the biomes via portals again, so it could be a potential portal spot, or it might just be an area for a cave or something they plan to add.

native yacht
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rgr

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out of theories, motivation, ideas..

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I have done a lot today...no progress

mint tulip
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NEW IDEA kill all the bugs hide the bodies

native yacht
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starting to think those phrases/hints are just there to buy time to implement an eldering system

mint tulip
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most likely

tame crest
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Ah right, memories triggered. There's gonna be ice caverns with these spider-like things in them called cave cutters or something.

mint tulip
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tbh i don't think they actually have it properly in

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blowing smoke up our REDACTED

native yacht
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REDACTED

mint tulip
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can we pick up bugs while they are alive?

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like if you catch them unaware?

native yacht
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mhmmm

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havent tested that

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but what would that do tho?

mint tulip
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dunno

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be funny if that was the trick if there even is one

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or part of it

native yacht
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you can make them back up tho if you aim and 1call them

mint tulip
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oh?

native yacht
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learned that last night during my search

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yea

mint tulip
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huh

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neat

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but ya if possible i imagine it is difficult but would be simple in a way

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hard to pull off but simple

native yacht
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hard to pull what off?

mint tulip
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so our one "Hint" if you would call it that is it is difficult to do but is something simple for eldering

static mesa
mint tulip
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oh and something stupid about ladders

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as if dragons use ladders

native yacht
mint tulip
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probably metaphorical though

static mesa
mint tulip
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maybe you need to bonk the bug 😛

static mesa
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i figured it out

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you don't need to 1 call

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any bug that you approach and you are bigger/stronger is gonna back off

mint tulip
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when i get home imma try and sneak up on some bugs if i can pick them up while they are alive imma have to try and figure out where to take it maybe that be the key

plucky cosmos
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you cant pick up live bugs, though that's under shadow cloak

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gimme a sec to see if you can sneak up without that

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you can sneak up, still cant pick up

mint tulip
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well that was a dud

rapid radish
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I thought the bug backs off with the 2 call, bc that is the threat call 🤔

static mesa
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when u aproach them they back off

plucky cosmos
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just entered a DM server to see what we're missing, and man, i want an elder IR so badly, the roar sounds so good ;_;

stray notch
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winter winds is the ice biome that is meant to be north of our current mountain, like.. going there is by heading north.

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guys

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isnt the first hint like... useable

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cant it lead us to anything?

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did we narrow down theories using it?

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yall just flying around smakcing stuff killing stuff while that hint gives u 3 clear steps of the system

plucky cosmos
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it still gives no start point

stray notch
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not really clear they are the missing part but it tells about them

plucky cosmos
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we have no foundation to begin from

stray notch
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he for real said "to elder u have to-"

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thats the elder system, that hint.

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it must be obvious? right

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i know im acting stupid i know

plucky cosmos
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and we have nothing to go from there. its all [REDACTED]

stray notch
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but lets go back to ground zero while AWARE WE ARE GOING GROUND ZERO INSTEAD OF OUR BRAINSTORMING TAKES US THERE

plucky cosmos
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i dont think we can, we would need memory erasure to get a fresh look

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i have a friend i might be able to pick the brain of, he's never played dod, so maybe he might think of something we havent

stray notch
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can i pin this?

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Jao qoute on elder system hint :
you have to REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED then obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED

plucky cosmos
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its probably in the doc

stray notch
stray notch
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as it is an important one in my opinion

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lol hold on who can pin things in here

plucky cosmos
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admins or mods i think

compact berry
plucky cosmos
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Tam was suggesting to pin the first ever redacted hint so we remember what started this all

stray notch
fresh marsh
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Was driving for two days, how goes the hunt?

fading canyon
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slowly going insane

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actually quickly, very quickly going insane

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im reading through the theories thing rn in pinned, I do really like the idea that in order to actually begin eldering we need our first passive tick, it would kinda also make sense with his statment/hint that he gave of needing to take our first steps to climbing the elder ladder

stray notch
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haha im enjoying my elder FS while yall struggle... may god be with ya.

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plucky cosmos
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requiring a 12 hour time gate?

fading canyon
stray notch
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im spamming calls, acting majestic and wandering around the forgotten forest

keen spire
stray notch
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but it indeed an elder

fading canyon
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where it shows the actual age of the dragon

plucky cosmos
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its a deathmatch server where you spawn as max age

stray notch
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trust me, i have an elder

fading canyon
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Ahhh gotcha so doesnt actually know how to elder got it

stray notch
plucky cosmos
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nope, we still have no idea

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as you can see, sanity is in low supply

fading canyon
stray notch
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have anyone really tried talking to jao lol

keen spire
fading canyon
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the only big diff is between ir male and fems with their fins

stray notch
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or does he like never respond?

deft patrol
plucky cosmos
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we've asked, pleaded, and hes given us those "hints"

stray notch
fading canyon
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Male irs have bigger horns

stray notch
stray notch
timber laurel
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They have bigger fins

fading canyon
timber laurel
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Not horns

stray notch
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OR they have a SLIGHTLY bigger horns like unnoticable

fading canyon
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It is super unnoticable but the horns are slightly bigger or at least elongated

stray notch
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yes bigger fins not horns nugget

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hmm gotta re check it

timber laurel
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Notable difference between male and female IR, Bigging fins on Chin, Back, and Tail

stray notch
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female

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fading canyon
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Yeah im lookin at it now

stray notch
plucky cosmos
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there was a concept art piece i saw where the males had slightly bigger horns with colored tips or something

fading canyon
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^^^

stray notch
plucky cosmos
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but not in game model, maybe that'll be a thing later

fading canyon
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Thats my assumption

stray notch
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i wish feamles had like some small goat like horns

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while males had an even longer than current ones

fading canyon
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I feel like that would look a lil weird on the ir

stray notch
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no i meant in size

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not in shape or look lol that'll be ugly

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like the devil

fading canyon
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=XD

dense current
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ik alpha had horn differences on i think wyvern and can confirm it looked real goofy

stray notch
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alpha?

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alpha elder u mean

dense current
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no

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ill see if i can find a ss

plucky cosmos
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elder=alpha im pretty sure

stray notch
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also why does elders have (alpha) after their class

plucky cosmos
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ancient is past elder, which may be npc or event only

stray notch
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isnt that interesting thing to think of

fading canyon
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I think theyre talking about the game though here

stray notch
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hold on

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if old eldering was just by mushrooms

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and curent one is REDACTED

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BUT

dense current
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thats what i mean by alpha xD

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stray notch
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old one makes u only alpha, but this one makes u an ALPHA

stray notch
tame crest
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They're talking about the alpha build.

stray notch
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OH

tame crest
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When the dragons were using storebought assets.

stray notch
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and im talking about in game alpha lol

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yee idk about alpha ngl, but what about in-game alphas?

native yacht
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bro can we get back on track 😠

can we talk about ideas and theories for eldering and not horns and game assets

fading canyon
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Mooooommmmm but the horns! they mean somethinggg

native yacht
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somebody REDACT this guy

dense current
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xD

fading canyon
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LOL

dense current
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we have tried so much everyones kinda gone insane in here

native yacht
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yup

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ive lost my soul here

fading canyon
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hehe talking about game assets is a good refresher

naive otter
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fun days but elder is difficult now

stray notch
native yacht
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Jao qoute on elder system hint :
you have to REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED then obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED

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we still have to go to some location?

fading canyon
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Sometimes i think this might be a joke and then i cry silently

stray notch
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think deper mate

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if it says go to

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means the thing isnt a loaction (eldering shouldnt be campable)

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its something uncampable (for example a cave, mushroom, flower, water.)

stray notch
jade elm
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I'm thinking that the non-campable location could be wherever your dragon was nested initially, its birthplace

fading canyon
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If its a specific spot, it can be campable by alpha clans in pvp servers

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The only way around that would be making a specific spot in pvp servers that acted like some kind of Truce or passive zone where pvp was turned off

stray notch
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just think out of the box

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if its go to, it shouldnt be a location

fading canyon
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Go to typically means a place, Go to elder forest, Go to paradise, go to snowy mountain

stray notch
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well, not in this case

stray notch
fading canyon
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Yes

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Think about pvp servers too, if you get a group of ppl in one clan with good dragons they could absolutely camp that mushroom to only allow clan members to elder

stray notch
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u think its more reasonable to camp elder forest, rather than camping all the mushrooms in this whole

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i mean the opposite

fading canyon
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I dont, but that doesnt mean it isnt campable

stray notch
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i mean u think mushrooms/flowers camping is easier than camping a spot or two?

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i mean, thats true

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but still makes a bit more sense

fading canyon
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with enough ppl absolutely, A lot of ppl in legacy camped the mushroom spots and there was multiple of those

stray notch
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that would be one thing, its somewhere, but added to eldering being client sided its somewhere the client only could tell

fading canyon
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But thats what i was saying earlier though as well, if it was a specific spot or smaller area it would make sense if in pvp servers at least it was an area that had pvp disabled so it couldnt really be camped by pvp players

stray notch
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we're getting close

jade elm
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If it had anything to do with mushrooms, wouldn't that be similar to the old system?

stray notch
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i said mushrooms for example.

stray notch
fading canyon
native yacht
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im a pvper, everywhere is campable. trust me.

stray notch
native yacht
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if its not campable it would mean you can do some kinda action anywhere

fading canyon
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^^^

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This is what i was thinking, they said we already had all the tools we needed from what i remember

stray notch
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or as someone said earlier i forgot who, its maybe where u was nested?

native yacht
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ive 1called for hours, no progress

jade elm
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that'd be me

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from his hint that would be the final step though, so it may be hard to figure out

stray notch
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thats a good question we can ask jao, what are the tools?

fading canyon
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He will more than likely not answer questions about eldering currently since ppl have been pestering him about it

bleak python
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Okay y’all I had a dream about eldering

fading canyon
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Ok ok listening what have the gods sent you

bleak python
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I’ve been sick with this really bad like head and throat cold ; so it could just be a fever dream

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HOWEVER

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I dreamed that the way to elder were these small dragon head statues that held a small glowing yellow orb, like the same color yellow as bio eggs.

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And once you grabbed it; it would disappear

native yacht
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its a nice dream.

bleak python
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First one was found on a rock ledge near a waterfall

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Hope my dream works for everyone

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I’m going back to sleep now

plucky cosmos
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you know its bad when we literally want to believe a dream will help us

bleak python
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Oh also you must first be flamed to death by a flame stalker as an SS

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Best of luck

stray notch
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guys hell no 💀

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native yacht
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theres water above

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already did that

stray notch
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yeah it is 💔

stray notch
bold tusk
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I forgor...

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from their twitter

native yacht
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that was taken out for this eldering system

bold tusk
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but pearls arent in

bold tusk
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which i was hopefull for 5 seconds till I remembered that

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;-;

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UHG

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Did you know some crystals spark a diferent color for SS?
If you shoot with your plasma, the impact becames whatever color the crystals were

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except some crystals don't do that

stray notch
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what does this mean

stray notch
native yacht
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its not in the game.

stray notch
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wdym

stray notch
bold tusk
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yes

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pretty sure jao stated pearls arent in yet

stray notch
bold tusk
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the plasma thing

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yea

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a clanmate showed me

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go shoot at a crystal

stray notch
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im changing dragon rn

native yacht
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it didnt do it for me

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is the plasma suppose to change or the crystal?

bold tusk
stray notch
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i remember sometimes plasma just goes purples for som reason

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instead of blue

native yacht
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yea thats what im saying it didnt work for me. maybe clanmate had some kinda monitor that does that

stray notch
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yeah their screen should be thhe problem

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bc for me the plasma itsself when hitting almost does no effect

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even on ground/walls

bold tusk
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he tested the crystals at the Falls near BR.

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the one with the tiny cover next to the bio cave

stray notch
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okay whatswrong with takeoff Dsynces.

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hold on. holding space when taking off now takes u to flight?!

bold tusk
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yea thats been a thing for more than a year

bold tusk
stray notch
bold tusk
stray notch
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ah got it

bold tusk
stray notch
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HOLD ON THATS A BIT TRUE

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native yacht
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whats your settings at?

stray notch
native yacht
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thats why

stray notch
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now potato

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no thats true.

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OR

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OR its just the crystal reflicting or doing some visual bug with the plasma

native yacht
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either way we've already crossed off crystals

bold tusk
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ik

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just thought it was cool

stray notch
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yk guys when some Devs spoil a secret bc of some michanic they add

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second wind.... are we meant to fly that long over clouds?!

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why.

native yacht
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to get up higher

bold tusk
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people have also flown all over the map

stray notch
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like- why are we all still trying lmao

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and why tf are they delaying 1.0.1 if its gonna change the system. IM TIRED DO IT NOW

bleak python
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its delayed to fix bugs

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which if they were hitbox bugs id be fine with but if its just skins and food bugs im ... eh.

stray notch
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fr

native yacht
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because eldering right now is a system/mechanic that is right there in front of us. we already "have the tools" to do it but cant figure it out

stray notch
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thats stupid.

native yacht
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agreed.

stray notch
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bro when i try to take a break untill next patch the isle breaks and now im forced to deal with jao's hints

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pain

native yacht
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wake up to reality.

native yacht
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yellow fireflies?

frigid vault
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I still highly doubt that the eldering is at all related to any specific point on the map, that feels wrong to me..

native yacht
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then what do you think it is?

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something we can already do?

stray notch
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"u already have the tools"
"its not campable"
and all the other qoutes im too lazy to put, its something ONLY character related, or things you do.

native yacht
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all we are trying to do is to find the first step to activate eldering

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could it be a voice command?

stray notch
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i got no mic D:

azure pulsar
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what came out of the "running with asd from donut lake to big fallen tree with bug in mouth and got 11% elder growth" thingy?

pearl root
azure pulsar
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okay

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and someone with asd?

native yacht
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dont think its distance base bro

azure pulsar
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ok

native yacht
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a fresh mind does help tho

frigid vault
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I feel like it might be something different for each kind of dragon, at this point. There seems to have been -some- things that caused growth spurts, but no one ever could re-confirm?

native yacht
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been at it for a good week an some change, we have exhusted ourselves in doing everything

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yea thats all talk. most of us have re done what others thought gave them ticks and nothing came up

frigid vault
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So it seems very erratic or tied to factors we haven't caught yet.
Location is out, that'd make "Eldering Spots" a thing to fight over again and they specified on wanting to avoid that I think, if not explicitly then implicitly by moving the heck away from making it Shroom-based.

native yacht
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go on

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with that kinda info it looks like something we can currently do, wouldn't you say?

frigid vault
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By that logic, it has to be something tied to activities. I personally have the suspicion/bias to assume it is something different for each type of dragon, making it harder to reconfirm when we have cases a la "11 running from X to Y" That can't be reconfirmed with another dragon type at the very least.

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Nesting was suggested in the past but given the amount of it going on, most likely the easiest to prove false

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Fighting is unlikely too, cause it'd benefit the PvP-ers over PvE-ers which is not something they'd want either

native yacht
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still no new information that we dont already know but continue

frigid vault
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I am just compiling

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Not throwing in new grand ideas, just putting together what we can assess and what I have seen so far.

native yacht
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go on

frigid vault
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So coming from that, with nesting out, fighting rather unlikely and locations at the least unlikely if not outright debunked, has to come down to eating something uncommon (which we had before and which we'd be hard pressed to figure out) or some very arcane doings that would be out of place to do normally, but feel right for the dragon.
The ASD thing has me thinking, though naturally unlikely, it might just be "Carry things while sprinting" Like Muscle training of sorts?

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For the rest of the dragons I am utterly blanking even on basic ideas, admittedly.

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That said, if they planned with the bigger AI enemies coming at some stage ahead, then even fighting would make sense... Still doesn't feel like it though.

That's about where my compiling ends and I am just grasping at straws either 😁

stray notch
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my personal idea (which is almost as what ur thinking) is yeah its different depending on dragon, but its some sort of lets say real-life animals
a lion would be an ambush quick attacker, wild dogs would use endurance and loong time to exhaust their prey while wolfs use pack hunting ETC ETC...
so, using as much info about species we have, i can think of (i am still wanting to gather even MORE info about dragons and their behaviours, but thats mostly all i know) an ASD would be near waters, rivers, using water a lot (swiming to get some elder growth? hunting by ambushing from water?) an SS would be an elusive dragon (thats FR what the game says) meaning it would be using a lot of agility, high endurance (flying too high/too long/flying near stuff and through stuff bc yk, flexing with ur agility) an FS would be the big boy, aggressive and can fly TOO high (thats sadly all i know about it, and i got no clue what would it be for FS out of PVP, maybe being solo)

thats my theory, for now at least, also what confirmes it and drives me insane that there was a whole channel in this server telling a lot of info about dragons, got deleted after 1.0

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thats all i have untill we find out abt something new, also i need more dragons info if anyone could help

novel oak
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in the roleplay section it has lore stuff, if thats any help

native yacht
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@novel oak we already tried that

compact reef
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I think it would be "cool" if it were different per dragon instead of find 1 thing all can do. that would get boring and repetitive fast, once found.

deft spruce
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Day 10 of checking in this chat - My hopes are giving up

compact reef
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LOL no no no rekindle thy flame

deft spruce
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Day 10 of checking in this chat - My hopes are coming back by request

compact reef
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we can do this I think everyone just needs to step away but not surrender think about other things then return with a fresh brain

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and new content

pulsar swift
compact reef
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Ill pour gasoline on it

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so it bites back

pulsar swift
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I started investigating eldering when steam said I've played 38.7 hours. I'm now at 121.4 hours

compact reef
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aye i didnt think id play to much either but im here

deft spruce
deft spruce
pulsar swift
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Besides 2 short hatching sessions its been eldering and a little regrowing dead dragons. But yeah, hope is lost, the Clones won this battle

compact reef
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and unwilling to surrender at this point Im just setting random goals for myself and trying to acomplish it for the fun of it if something happenjs thats a plus

pulsar swift
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Atm I'm just logging in daily for elder ticks on 3 dragons keknervous

compact reef
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making a game out of a game like now im trying to fly full speed through a forest dodging 100 trees

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as ss

deft spruce
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thx for reminding me

pulsar swift
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Havent been able to go east to west through it, too many big trees, but west to east is fairly easy now

compact reef
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but still a cool goal like I said im not looking Im just playing games inside a game

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and if something happens thats a plus

pulsar swift
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The only thing that happened to me was repeatedly nearly killing my dragon Sadge people dont even appreciate the difficulty, its a very narrow log

compact reef
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Ive flown through it to but only completed once cause that was my goal

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the giant one ive done alot

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actually the big one I make it a point to use it as a landing lane lol

pulsar swift
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Same, the big one near arches is like, you fly through it then attempt to brake and land right on the "end line" kekw

compact reef
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yes!!!! XD

pulsar swift
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There's also ledges, I like pulling up and braking so you get that feeling of the dragon pulling back to hard brake and position its rear legs under it for a landing keknervous

compact reef
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I also go back and use it for take off

pulsar swift
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Spent an hour practicing landings at the lake above Falls, not the lake immediately at the top but a little further west or southwest

compact reef
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that sounds fun Might try myself

pulsar swift
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Its a good ledge, you soar across the lake then pull up and land majestetically at the edge of the ledge

calm sage
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Hello everyone ^^"
I'm new here and I want to offer my theory, but I'm not sure if it was discussed here and if it's right.
Initially, I thought that it depends on the "comfort" of the character and his habitat (which is shown in his statistics), but after flying around the entire map, I noticed that these statistics about mood, temperature and other things - do not change. And so far, I have a feeling that this elder system has not yet been fully introduced. Or this statistic is unrelated to anything ><

turbid copper
bleak python
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All that makes me think of is people using the IR as personal campfires later on in the snow biome. haha

turbid copper
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lmao

carmine ivy
bleak python
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Pretty sure the words were something like "you have all the tools you need" to elder.

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And "its in."

carmine ivy
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I have searched for his personal input and I have found the "hints" and things. But I just wonder if he has personally told the populace, out side of Patreon that it is findable and there.

frail salmon
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My theory is that the way to reach elder is by for example ”Eat X amount of mushrooms” or ”Nest X amount of times”. You basically climb a ladder since you go from 1 to X.

The reason behind my theory is because Jao wants to make it non campable, more social, and more dragony.

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That is what dragons do, repeat their process and stay alive.

carmine ivy
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That's a perfectly fair theory, and it would sync up with everyone else's experiences detailed in the google doc, tbf.

bleak python
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The sad fact is that no one has ticks that arent passive ones.

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If we could get accounts of ticks that weren't from passive ticks, we'd have a lead.

turbid copper
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The social thing was about the game in general not eldering tho

bleak python
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But no one has been able to do so, yet. And if they have, then they're in a mega clan and not sharing even that.

carmine ivy
carmine ivy
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But once a content creator gets ahold of it though... xD

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They gon get them views lol

stray notch
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okay so im trying to hard log a fresh adult ASD (no ticks 0% growth) in its fav biome, river. in their fav place which is water.... i hope something happens?

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compact kindle
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Goodmorning have we anything new today

turbid copper
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Nothing Sadge

exotic violet
deft spruce
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i just asked rhino straight up in General x)

night tendon
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Good luck, soldier

turbid copper
compact kindle
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Bye

deft spruce
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if i get banned for pinging him, hope my sacrifice wasnt in vain o7

compact kindle
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It is

deft spruce
celest knoll
undone heath
deft spruce
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GUYS

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i figured it out

rapid radish
deft spruce
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its been a mod all this time!

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(legally this is a joke)

vernal cargo
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and not a good one at that nlg..

rapid radish
# deft spruce its fake

Yeah I thought so, did some math and even 2x growth server wouldn't give you an elder fs yet 😄

minor hinge
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considering the stats are all E, its just like scaleworks. Since you can just copy paste stats in as you see fit and growth/command in the files. So unless people include server names its all fake xD

digital isle
#

Even if they found I think will be need more than only 2 weeks

half hound
#

Its a troll.

heavy ridge
hybrid cloud
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But there's no endgame right now

last minnow
#

eldering is the last thing you do bc theres nothing else rn

heavy ridge
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To paraphrase the discussion in PT chat rn, "eldering a decent bloodline makes more sense as endgame then eating 100 crabs"

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Just updating the thread with any mentioning of the eldering system. 🤷 the system has to have made sense from a game play/gamedev perspective of what counts as "endgame"

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Feels like we might have been coming at it from the wrong angle.

last minnow
#

well id assume so if we still havnt found it

somber shuttle
#

He did ask at one point if anybody had A bl yet

last minnow
#

alot do but most are bio

dry mauve
#

Im assuming we need to upstat the substats

last minnow
#

but i think they were asking because of an issue with bl and the upstats

hybrid cloud
#

but even the ones that aren't bio still have low stats

dry mauve
#

Which means its probably breeding related as only A BL and above can elder

last minnow
#

like i said, think they were asking to investigate the stat issue

dry mauve
#

After all only the strong survive

turbid copper
#

There's a lot of ppl with A bl already and nothing

last minnow
#

parrot had said they were going to bring it up to jao when they could because of this issue

compact kindle
last minnow
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and the eldering can be done solo, nesting isnt solo

compact kindle
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Because theres been alot of complaints on the complexity and difficulty related to recessive genes

night tendon
#

So uh.. Theory (which is gonna be hella painful)... But what if 18A is it :')

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That sounds like endgame to me

compact kindle
#

Plus there are servers that lock stats upon spawn, no one gets above E stat or bloodline in those servers, that would stop them from being able to Elder

sly cedar
# heavy ridge

Ok, that's not even a hint at that point and it feels kinda mean... my view of the game overall just dipped a small amount. Not cool.

hybrid cloud
#

why? cause we have no way to activly elder? thats just one part of the game

last minnow
#

we need a viable hint

hallow mountain
heavy ridge
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Jao thought we could (possibly) figure it out before 2 weeks (the if you don't figure it out before 1.1, I'll change it)
It's soloable,
Not campable (not location dependant),
Achievable on foot,

And endgame so probably "take this gameplay but more of it" but not in a way that doesnt have a "first step on the latter"

heavy ridge
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*hint

last minnow
#

well the last thing you do once you get to adult is start flying around and exploring, going sight seeing, ect

novel oak
#

that and it has to be something that makes sense for a dragon to do, moreso than eating mushrooms

compact reef
#

at this point i think he dont wanna say cause there aint spit to do in the game

last minnow
#

dragons fly

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bam

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easy

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figured it out

compact reef
#

other than nest and make your own challenges

novel oak
#

i tried with ss, flying at height limit

turbid copper
#

There's literally nothing else to do lol

novel oak
#

and the asd cant fly

hybrid cloud
#

but it can fall

turbid copper
#

yea and die lmao

sly cedar
#

Saying simply "it's end game." You don't think we already know that? Idk, it just rubbed me the wrong way. But only a small amount. Maybe I'm still just really irritated with everything goign on rn.

last minnow
#

i think you need a break

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thats what i did when i was getting annoyed

celest knoll
#

be ready to breed full A dragons cause thats the endgame xD

hybrid cloud
#

until they add in the elementals to fight

heavy ridge
#

Not to be picky, but when/if Jao changes it, I'd like him to add a script that gives us a heads up when we're on the first step.

turbid copper
#

That's what's missing rn, cuz how would you know you are doing something right or not

vast valley
#

Maybe there is a heads up, we just haven’t discovered it

heavy ridge
#

Shove in a "something had changed" like how we have a "You start to feel stronger"

novel oak
#

im thinkin acient scripts in caves with hints. not obvious but something

heavy ridge
sly cedar
# last minnow thats what i did when i was getting annoyed

I'm not even playing the game at this point because of how little.there is to do on it still. Which is fine. I personally like coming in here and brainstorming with all of you. It's exciting and feels great on my mind... except for the part where it'd beginning to feel like we've exhausted nearly everything and no one has ANY inkling of a lead. If Eldering is a lengthy multi quest process, the fact qe don't even know how to start it really disheartens me and it's crushing. 😦

heavy ridge
last minnow
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if echo doesnt know then it cant be part of the map

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its a mechanic of sorts

novel oak
#

i would assume u know when u start it coz of the grwoth progression increasing

last minnow
#

i feel like thats how you know you did it, not start it

sly cedar
#

And when we ask for any miniscule hint thre lead dev just goes, "you're looking at it." ..... super frustrating lol

heavy ridge
novel oak
#

multi step could be different things for each increase, not the same thing each time like it use to be

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start at the bottom and work your way up in a way

heavy ridge
sly cedar
fierce violet
#

Any more words from the devs on eldering?

sly cedar
last minnow
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if there was, this chat would be more active

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but instead we are getting the dora the explorer treatment😭

fierce violet
#

Ooo who said that?

sly cedar
#

At least Dora had a map... 😅

sly cedar
fierce violet
#

Ah Mmkay with no other context?

novel oak
#

what if its a pvp only system, like number of adult dragons killed

turbid copper
chilly flicker
#

Could the first step on the ladder be an A bloodline with at least 1 A?

heavy ridge
# heavy ridge

^ no other context, one of the PTs was prodding him while he was trying to get information on a bug

novel oak
#

do you really need elder strength in pve

sly cedar
turbid copper
tame crest
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Uhh, PVE is still going to have boss creatures.

heavy ridge
tame crest
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Slayer worms and what not.

turbid copper
#

Oh yeah and the stronger ai

last minnow
novel oak
#

i would hope mini bosses to help with eldering. at least that is something go on and not campable if they keep moving

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ssh

tame crest
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You'd want to be elder to fight them if you don't just have a behemoth.

novel oak
#

shame minibosses rnt in

heavy ridge
sly cedar
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"The eldering system is already in the game" *proceeds to edit it to account for new bosses. Old players: D:<...

novel oak
#

naaa, in pvp you die before adult so no need to nest (joke)

sly cedar
#

While I'm all for revision and improvement, not sure how players who worked their buns off to elder would feel about that. Yeah maybe I do need a break... I'm feeling nothing but anger anymore in here

novel oak
#

i would think if it changed, the elders that you currently have, at that time, would remain

dry mauve
#

Moonlight [Sr. Modmin] — Today at 1:40 PM
It makes sense it's to do with stats now I think about it (I don't know the method).

Getting all A is endgame for some
The game heavily focuses on clan/group play and nesting
It's not technically able to be camped
Can be replicated with all species (except hybrid)
Upstatting is now harder, so players have to really work for it (making elders rarer than in legacy)
This would also mean that Elementals would be even rarer since we know you have to sacrifice an Elder to unlock one.

turbid copper
#

Nesting is harder, but it has an issue, so yeah idk

languid spoke
#

nesting is much harder, but necessary on all server types

strong lake
#

but i thought someone said SOLO players can be elder as well?

last minnow
#

jao pretty sure said that

languid spoke
#

solo players also often take eggs to get better dragons

novel oak
#

everyone trying find how elder, jao says its endgame. if people find how elder now then the system in place is flawed i think. how do you reach end game a few weeks into it coming out

languid spoke
#

figuring out how to doesn't mean you actually accomplished endgame tho

steady rock
#

What is there to do besides eldering when important mutation points related to midgame (nesting) are locked behind it?

turbid copper
#

Endgame in a game is after you complete all the main objectives and you have to do the side content stuff to farm level and loot

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but it's not the case here

last minnow
#

upstatting is bugged rn

turbid copper
#

yep

earnest root
#

Could it be getting all stats A? It's not technically campable, but you can kill said dragons with A bloodline so they can't get that good stat?

sly cedar
#

What really is the endgame... we still have dragons to come out and play. Ai. npcs... quests. Lore... right now you're tellign me the endgame is to breed up stats. To do what. Take on Worms and Elementals. Ok.... but- gahhh I'm getting mad again lol

languid spoke
last minnow
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its confirmed bugged by parrot

turbid copper
languid spoke
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oh did she? i missed that

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i haven't been getting on while at work lol, fill me in

last minnow
#

parrot said that it has issues rn

turbid copper
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like, parents and grandparents with 0 E's having hatchlings with E's in stats

languid spoke
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oh that? i just assumed it was the recessive genes cropping up

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but if she says it's bugged then that helps honestly, i kept saying recessives shouldn't have THAT much importance

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where'd she say it?

last minnow
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in gen chat

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you can always look in their messages

languid spoke
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oh that place, yea

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i'll search, i stay out of there lol

compact kindle
#

They just said they would look into it

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Never said it was bugged or intended and maybe needs better balancing

languid spoke
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yea i was about to say that after finding her comment

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other people were complaining so she said they'd look into it. not quite the same as saying "it's bugged"

compact kindle
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Yeah I agree, I took it as a relook into the mechanics for better balancings

languid spoke
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same

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make sure it's working as intended

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now, if they do come out and say "oh it did have a glitch" that'll be different. but i also don't think it's supposed to be easy to just shoot up to A dominant stats

compact kindle
#

I agree, bloodline only takes roughly 12 hours to achieve and a couple days or week to make all A on legacy, it needed a difficulty boost

languid spoke
#

right!?

turbid copper
#

Sure, not easy, but not hard that you have to spend hundreds of hours in and end up with nothing good either tbh

compact kindle
#

What are you gunna do once you achieve it, we dunno how to elder yet for A++ just need patience

languid spoke
#

exactly lol

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from what i can tell, the stats are contribute a % to the total BL. the recessives do effect strongly effect how each stat goes up or down. a recessive E is going to fight against any better dominant stat in that spot and make it harder to raise. but a recessive A or B will greatly increase the chance of getting the dominant up to A or B

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only issue i'm having is i don't have it in me to sit and figure out that math

compact kindle
#

Tbh weve just been mashing multiple bloodlines together and accidently made progress GooseWheeze GooseWheeze

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Only learned later how its "suppose to be done"

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Maybe the current method isnt the good method

languid spoke
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yup! we had friends on another server stumble upon it

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only problem is, without the 4th tick in social you can't see your recessives so it's a shot in the dark

compact kindle
#

I mean it was just as rng in legacy no? Whether youd get an upstat or not? The nymber of rerolls ive made in legacy TwT Ive not personally noticed that big of a difference in my luck

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Perhaps we've just been lucky af though we've not done all dragons just bio and SS really

languid spoke
#

on spawns? or nesting?

compact kindle
#

Both

languid spoke
#

wait, in legacy. cause i know in legacy you could get "ok" stats on spawns. but, without the hidden recessives fighting you it was a lot easier getting to A's

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now in 1.0, from spawning as elder i know you can get A's and B's in your recessives and it makes upstatting a lot easier....but takes a lot of rolls

compact kindle
#

We dont have any As as far as Im aware but yeah Ive not seen a struggle quite like everyone else is saying. We went from 16 es to 0-1 in a day maybe two

languid spoke
#

oh yea, getting rid of E's without knowing recessives isn't too bad

compact kindle
#

Already moving into Cs but our bloodline isnt A either

languid spoke
#

what i don't get is the ones with A bl with no A's and all E's and D's in it

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like HOW

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that makes zero sense

compact kindle
#

Brcause everyone leveled their bloodline first then went back for stats after

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I wonder if thats making it harder

languid spoke
#

so on our server we had B's and C's in our dominant stats. but it was slow going, not impossible. then our friends on their server found that going by recessives made it faster, or seems to be faster? i'm not 100% sold on it. i think both methods work personally

compact kindle
#

Recessives are suppose to change though in later generations

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People seem to be saying theirs are not changing when the whole family tree has no es they still make es and have recessive e, and THAT makes no sense to me

languid spoke
#

yea it seems like figuring out how the recessives interact with the dominants is a headache

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i'm not sure how Jao intended them to function

compact kindle
#

Or foguring out why their recessive isnt updating as it should be, that might be a bug tbh if people are being honest about their stats anyways

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But idk Ive seen my recessives change as my grandparents did, and not struggled as much imo

languid spoke
#

same

compact kindle
#

Then again im use to far grindier games than dod could hope to be so this isnt that much of a grind to me just afk make babies lol chat with friends

languid spoke
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😂 right

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i made a similar comment to my server co-owner

compact kindle
sleek kelp
languid spoke
#

that isn't what parrot said tho

bleak python
#

are you sure they're not saying upstatting is bugged bc grandparents dont count atm or..

languid spoke
#

she said they would look into it, not that there was an issue

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grandparents do count atm?

bleak python
#

nope

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you can nest with grandparents and not get Fs

languid spoke
#

i had a friend get F's from nesting with a grandparent

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or so they said

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they may be wrong but i dunno

bleak python
#

everything ive seen so far has been 0 fs from grandparents

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and they only count towards recessive / skins.

languid spoke
#

hmmm, interesting

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i'll have to double check what my friends had happen then

bleak python
#

it may have been a parent they were with

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or sibling

stray notch
#

hi

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kokomalolo

compact kindle
#

Grandparents dont count to imbreeding and I dont believe they are suppose to

stray notch
compact kindle
#

Then again I am my own grandparent so GooseWheeze both of them.. and my father

fading canyon
#

ookok so grandparents can actually count apparently towards inbreeding its just highly unlikely

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a couple of ppl in our server had 2 ppl nest, Different parents 2 of the same grandparents and they ended up with an F nest

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nests after that were totally fine tho

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same ppl

compact kindle
#

Is there a screenshot?

languid spoke
#

sounds like someone made an oopsie there

fading canyon
#

Not that i know of, but it ppl kept talking about it in Jarkhon, most of us just continued to nest with same grandparents though assuming that its a super low chance of F babies

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Im pretty sure what happened though is that the dude was actually the Fems grandkid, nesting with her so we assumed that you just couldnt renest with anyone in your family tree

compact kindle
#

I cant imagine it being % based just rng inbreeding sounds terrifying lmfao and broken

maiden island
#

you can share grandparents with the ppl you bonk you just can't bonk your grandparents directly, just throwing it out there

tepid haven
#

Should probably move chat of breeding out of elder chat tho

fading canyon
high wagon
#

especially since thats very off topic

compact kindle
#

Woops

languid spoke
#

someone make us a new thread, quick

compact kindle
#

I'm not at my pc

languid spoke
#

lol oh

high wagon
#

you are also free to dm about it also

languid spoke
#

also, tbf, it was related in the beginning as there could be a connection to eldering to stats but it did get very off that subject lol

high wagon
#

i understand, just try your best to stay on topic WolfSmile

fading canyon
#

Have we thought about his hint telling us "we need to take the first steps to climb the ladder of eldering" and if it were literal what that means? since it can be done on foot

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Ive already climbed the snowy mountain with a bug on ss on foot, and ive retried flying through the ravine, but im also spawn statted on ss so if having Ablq does matter it wouldnt have dont anything

compact kindle
#

I cant imagine it being locked behind bloodline tbh, since there are server settings to disable upstating

fading canyon
#

I agree with you on that one 100%

static mesa
high wagon
tepid haven
#

That screenshot shows coords, but that rock formation wasn’t there when I went to those coords

fading canyon
#

It is

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its in the hillside it took me a min to

tepid haven
#

I’ll look again when I am not nesting anymore to look.

fading canyon
languid spoke
#

is that the little cave by river?

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someone said be careful cause their bio fell into the map and died inside of there if it is

fading canyon
#

Yeah if you go from river rock its right up the way ill see if i can get a pic from flying

languid spoke
#

i've found it before too yea, nothing in it

acoustic holly
fading canyon
#

The only noteable thing is the fireflies in there

acoustic holly
#

Could be a future NPC but I don’t think it’s related to eldering at this time.

fading canyon
#

or dust or whatever

languid spoke
#

exactly lol

dense onyx
#

do we have any leads yet?

tepid haven
#

Is there any chance the eldering could be client side? Like something only becomes available to see or do when your dragon is ready and doesn’t show up to anyone else?

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Thoughts?

fading canyon
#

thats what i was thinking yesterady

dense onyx
#

that lines up with "you must take the first step before you can climb the elder ladder"

fading canyon
#

we know that it can apparently be done on foot and location shouldnt matter

deft spruce
#

so

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question

acoustic holly
#

What is something only you can do that no one else can do for you?

deft spruce
#

are we sure eldering is even obtaintable right now? yes he's said its in the game, and gave us a clue on how to get it, as well as saying its endgame.. I'm thinking, maybe its coded into the game but we can't access it yet until more content is released?

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and only real way of us getting it is passive right now

dense onyx
#

that'd be pretty mean but possible xD

deft spruce
#

like it might as well be ''defeat an elemental''

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to get elder tick

fading canyon
#

Im confident that its actually in the game rn, otherwise he wouldnt have stated about changing it if we couldnt figure it out

deft spruce
#

even tho elementals arent avalible yet, (they are still techincally coded tho) that would mean eldering is in the game, just not accessable

acoustic holly
#

I can believe that it’s in the game just not active. A lot of code needs to be put in place to help bring things to life and putting foundations are good for testing to ensure it doesn’t break other aspects of the game unexpectedly

dense onyx
#

has anything been discovered yet? any leads?

bleak python
#

no one can drink for you, no one can make you fly (you can glide but not fly), and no one can make you grow

dense onyx
#

walk

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for spitters

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nobody can make you walk

bleak python
#

that too

fading canyon
#

Maybe taking the first steps to climb the ladder is waiting for the first elder tick, it would actually kind of line up with one of the first steps to unlocking the Force sensitive slot character in Star wars galaxies as you need to do a set of tasks to become "glowy" at which point an Old man will show up somewhere between 10 min up to 72 hours (for swg you have to master 5 professions, collect some badges and do some theme parks my assumption for us would to be just growing to adult and then needing to wait the 12 hours or so for the first tick to actually be able to continue to elder from there)

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Issa bit of a stretch but it fits both taking the first steps to climbing the ladder and the statement about him wanting it to be like the star wars game

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after that its hard to connect SWG to DoD as a lot of it is locked behind a time wall and missions

acoustic holly
bleak python
#

that doesn't really count though

zealous urchin
#

new hint lol

sly cedar
bleak python
#

. . .

sly cedar
bleak python
high wagon
sly cedar
#

I'm gonna guess the additional yellow scent lines led to nowhere yesterday?

last minnow
#

well i mean

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they led to nests

bleak python
#

they lead to blood, nests, and corpses that have turned to GORE.

sly cedar
#

Listen here you... lol

bleak python
#

additionally ive seen purple, yellow, orange, green, and blue lines while sniffing. looked like a bowl of fruity pebbles

high wagon
#

yellow in legacy was Nests, idk if they changed that in 1.0

sly cedar
#

Clues my tail end...

high wagon
#

i know there are orange lines now that lead to gores i think?

deft spruce
#

Jinx

sly cedar
high wagon
#

hm?

deft spruce
#

hello :)

high wagon
#

thank you, n hello lol

deft spruce
#

Ok guys new strategy

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lets whisper, whisper so we can whisper whisper and that's bound to give us elder!

deft patrol
#

Don’t you be mean REDACTED? xD

lone gulch
dawn pelican
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._.

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great

minor obsidian
deft patrol
#

Hiho Lady xD

keen basin
ashen swift
# zealous urchin

lol my take is that there is no eldering in place, then. because there is no end game.

(seriously, what is endgame in the game's current state? Aside from getting bloodline up.. but someone mentioned before that some servers can lock upstatting so it wouldn't make sense to link eldering to a stat.)

Growing to adult and living to explore is as endgame as it gets until they add things like endworms to hunt.

dry mauve
robust crypt
dry mauve
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then achieving AA Bl which you can do

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you just need 2 dom A BL

keen basin
#

we need to gather the infinite stones and wish ourselves to elder

robust crypt
#

Too bad I'm busy today otherwise I'd do more playing in hopes of getting those orbs of light I occasionally see on recording fhdjdudbrhx

keen basin
#

imagine if it is something like collect one of each crystal and bring them to X location

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xD

robust crypt
#

XD

stray notch
#

is it normal that DM server have adult spown not elder? is it a naming problem or is there something that takes u to elder... like they do auto eldering..

image.png
heavy ridge
stray notch
#

ahh.. i thought this one meant something :\

image.png
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alright so anything new we figured out?

robust crypt
keen basin
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xD

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what if u have to collect each one the same way

stray notch
#

or are we still turning around in the void of dis knowledge and confusion, while the world flashes upon our eyes

keen basin
#

to get the yellow one u gotta sacrifice a clan member

robust crypt
#

Omg

heavy ridge
novel oak
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shoot crystals in the right order

robust crypt
#

I almost wanna try that HAHAHA

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Look up what order the infinity stones were found in and then shoot crystals

stray notch
#

please guys

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someone find sar wars nerd

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that knows everything about the jedi

wooden marsh
#

real SW or the disney BS?

stray notch
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ngl i know nothing abt it but i know jao is taking inspiration for eldering from how jedis become that

fading canyon
#

i sent a msg earlier about it but it got skipped over

robust crypt
fading canyon
robust crypt
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Just food for thought

heavy ridge
#

To take a recent example, hopping in game, shooting the crystals in the right order, and getting blasted straight into endgame is... probably not it

naive otter
#

I've lost hope honestly. only theory i've gotten was it could be related to waypoints but i doubt this theory in general

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i cant think of anything else it could be

fading canyon
#

Not saying he cant, but so far hes stated what he takes inspiration from, it is more likely that he said its endgame out of frustration rather than look to avengers endgame

naive otter
#

I've tried my best to keep up with all the Tips we've been given and the stuff it can and cannnot be. but i've lost track (just a personal note i been keeping to try to stay on track)

image.png
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but i cant think of anything to theorize

gusty delta
#

maybe related to breeding?

fading canyon
#

Can be done on foot as well

gusty delta
#

I mean, with the same method as getting mela

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bred into a nest and grow solo

tame crest
#

Day ... however many days: I've returned to Star Wars Galaxies. In the process I've become a Teras Kasi student, mastering the art of all forms of melee. I'm stuck on Tatooine. I made a nest set on fire. The nest was full of dewbacks.

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In other words. I've given up on figuring out the elder system haha

dry mauve
#

No really now that im thinking about it...

tame crest
#

I genuinely can't theorise what the deal is. Considering elder as an endgame system when we don't really have any endgame to begin with is strange.

dry mauve
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Endgame is A stat

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at least as of right now it is

tame crest
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So any stat-locked servers can't achieve endgame.

dry mauve
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But getting double A stat is really truely endgame

sage cape
heavy ridge
naive otter
#

yeah presumed but remember bio cant elder at all

dry mauve
#

Passive ticks are a thing but it could have something to do with life expectancy

tame crest
#

For me, endgame would be having "raid bosses" and stuff. Like Pookie/slayer worm mommy.

dry mauve
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theirs no point in them eldering so they will just get extra points

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and all class 8 dragons and above will passive elder because well they will grow to it naturally.

tame crest
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I don't hit lvl 50 in City of Heroes and go "yeah, that's endgame pack it up" that's the start of endgame content.

naive otter
dry mauve
naive otter
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yis mimi too. excited for that bean

heavy ridge
dry mauve
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the issue is getting them to that size since they grow at a much slower rate

naive otter
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assumption tho

dry mauve
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probably 2 full days to get it to full elder

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since the elder process wont work on them

naive otter
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and its going to get harder to keep them fed as they get bigger. and others would have to help

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assuming their hunger rate goes faster as they get biggerr

dry mauve
tame crest
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Yeah

naive otter
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aye as its been told. we're going to need an Behemoth to even try to take one downn

tame crest
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According to Jao a single fully grown behemoth will be able to solo a baby worm.

heavy ridge
tame crest
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Although the keyword there is baby.

naive otter
tame crest
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You're gonna need a lot more hands for queens.

naive otter
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5+ or more. who knows. i even took a guess of 100 Dragons and i was dead wrong

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not including Behemoths during my guess...

heavy ridge
naive otter
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aye very excited to try to fight a swamp snapper as an ASD pack honestly

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one wrong move, and death is at hand

tame crest
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I'm just itching for those worms. Get a crack squad together and take one out without a behemoth.

naive otter
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more pookie!

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back to theorizing elder now

tame crest
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Indeed.

gusty delta
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Eldering might be locked until questing is released, until then it'll be passive i ebt

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bet

tame crest
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Questing won't be on survival servers though.

tardy perch
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It's not related to questing. It IS in the game, I don't know how many times I have ot repeat this before it sinks into people's heads XD

heavy ridge
sage cape
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man we need a dataminer lmao

naive otter
heavy ridge
tardy perch
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lol I'm trying to get Jao to spill the beans soon. He did tell us how to unlock mela way back when, but that took us a while before he spilled the beans

tame crest
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Oh man mela was a nightmare.

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People unlocking it but just, not understanding how

tardy perch
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Apparently we WILL kick ourselves once we do discover how to do eldering.

heavy ridge
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He said he'd spill if we didn't figure it out before 1.0.1 (and that he'd change it...)

dense current
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at least people were unlocking mela 😭

tame crest
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Then hindsight bias kicks in and you're like "oh for the love of Talos" haha

dense current
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even if they didn't know how

heavy ridge
tardy perch
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Yeah. It's why I told Jao 'look if you do plan to change it, at least tell us BEFORE you change it. And I don't mean like seconds before the change.'

tame crest
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I'm more partial to Amaunator, but Talos came to mind first (D&D Talos lmao)

tardy perch
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He's considering changign it but I tried to tell him not to. Cuz I'd rather eldering be 'easy' like he claims it is

heavy ridge
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If he said the process is cool, I honestly don't want him to change it. Change the prerequisite requirement, or add an in-game hint once we're on the right path, but if the process is cool, keep it cool.

tardy perch
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Cool wasn't the word he used. 'Easy' is

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But until I know the process, I dunno just how 'easy' it is XD

heavy ridge
tame crest
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Even if its not the word he used, I do hope it is interesting.

dense current
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is it really that easy tho if no one can figure out what it is ;-;

tardy perch
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It's possible for something to be easy but hard to discover.

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It might just be a very arbitrary method, but still an easy one

heavy ridge
sly cedar
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Question, was this game made with kids in mind?

tardy perch
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Not kids specifically no

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People of all ages I'd moreso guess

zealous urchin
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i can get mela off fresh spawn iconics

tame crest
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Appeals to kids sure but I'm fairly certain there's a very broad range of ages.

zealous urchin
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never tried the nested method

tame crest
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I've seen younguns and folks in their 30s

heavy ridge
sly cedar
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Ok. Because I was about say, someone bring your kids to this game and ask them what they think. Lol Maybe their simpler minds can see something we don't. OR of it's made with kids in mind, there's no way they could figure this out if we can't... lol

heavy ridge
tame crest
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Depends on the kid. I once spent a month stuck in a level in a game because I didn't see a boulder I had to move.

tardy perch
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It's either gonna be sheer dumb luck, or Jao is gonna end up telling us, at this rate lol

zealous urchin
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i just dont understand how someone hasnt figured it out on accident

sly cedar
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Fair. It took me many months or even years to come back and figure out those 2 crystal dragons in Spyro PSX. Lol

tardy perch
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They might have and just didn't notice

dense current
tardy perch
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You'd have to be actively keeping track of your elder precentage and knowing it wasn't a passive tick

zealous urchin
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i thought when jedi was used as reference it definitely had something to do with the crystals cause they look like kyber crystals

tardy perch
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So unless you are ACTIVELY tracking that, yeah...

zealous urchin
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the crystals jedi use in their lightsabers

tame crest
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If there's a lack of feedback (i.e. the game telling you "You did a thing and you feel enlightened" or something) then people could trigger it and not even realise.

dense current
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i tend to keep track of my elder ticks but haven't stumbled on it yet why

tame crest
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I'm absolutely not keeping track of my passive elder progress as it is, I'm not gonna notice if I go up a few more % cos I did the thing™️

tardy perch
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Yeah I actually don't think there's a in-game message anymore other than the passive tick message. Which is a shame, it's borderline poor game design

zealous urchin
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When a padawan learner becomes a jedi, they craft their first light saber and get "chosen" by a kyber crystal through the force. But I cant figure out how that incorporates into a dragon game xD so im stumped.

tardy perch
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It's always better to have the game let you know you are doing something out of the ordinary than the dev needing to spare his time to do so

dense current
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there is def in game messages outside the passive tick one.

heavy ridge
dense current
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"too heavy" when trying to pick up a bug, "you start to feel sick" when eating a red shroom

tardy perch
dense current
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idk about eldering tho

tardy perch
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This is the eldering method chat, we don't care about other messages XD We all know about those

dense current
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i am aware xD

restive barn
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the method for eldering is actually to delete the game guys! /joke

tame crest
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Also with Jao's fondness for SWG I do wonder if he refers to the original SWG or one of the emulator servers 🤔

heavy ridge
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Either we havnt proc'd it yet, or there isn't one. If there isn't, feedback is saying there should be, plz.

tardy perch
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Back in legacy if you ate a elder shroom that was the correct color, you'd get a message. So I was hoping for this one we'd get something similiar. But if it's there, either no one's found it, or it doesn't exist.

dense current
zealous urchin
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no message confirming

tardy perch
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It's why I'm trying to get Jao to spill the beans to at LEAST testers...we'd like to make suggestions nad feedback to improve the method if we feel it's lacking

zealous urchin
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if u make progress towards eldering somehow, its been all but confirmed

heavy ridge
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To be fair to Tenshi though, Jao's been keeping everyone in the dark, including the rest of the team

dense current
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server admins are players just like us tho

restive barn
tardy perch
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Yeah. I think only him and PArrot know

misty walrus
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^^ i was about to ask. doesnt only the devs know? not the admins/mods?

zealous urchin
tardy perch
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It'll get fixed if it is broken. It's just the moment 'when' at this point

tame crest
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Even if they're paid staff what's to say they're kept in the loop to the same extent.

zealous urchin
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Tenshi is OG, if anyone would know, they would

heavy ridge
tardy perch
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Right now he's working on making sure the ping/anti-cheat kicking is under raps first, which is objectively more important than the eldering process

zealous urchin
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And they all but confirmed there are no confirmation messages

tame crest
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That's an unfortunate typo there, Ulta

dusk ravine
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with current state of the game why do you think JAO cares about elder, we cannot even upstat effectively with recessive locked behind 25% growth wall which breeders die to make room for more dragons. We literally cannot know how to progress in upstatting because JAO doesn't know his own game.

tardy perch
restive barn
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i mean its best if testers tested it first, testers are there for a reason, testing if its broken, or lacking improves etc

tame crest
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It happens 😅

restive barn
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thats what i meant

tardy perch
restive barn
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implenting something to game without testing seems weird to me 🤷‍♂️

misty walrus
dense current
frank abyss
heavy ridge
tardy perch
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When they were using deadline dates, it was really 'last minute' for any testing. But now that they finally aren't using dates for patches, maybe now the stuff getting patched will be more thoroughly tested.

heavy ridge
tame crest
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Skins I'm fine with them being lower priority (sad about, but fine with) but fixing food, kicking, optimisations etc are definitely more important.

misty walrus
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^^^^^^^^^^^^^ this

tardy perch
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Until then we will keep throwing everything at the wall of possible eldering and see if anything sticks XD

heavy ridge
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And hey! at least we have more time to figure it out

tardy perch
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We could be overthinking it. I mean...what could possibly be something easy to do, but just hard to do by accident

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Something that a player would rarely ever do in normal play

frank abyss
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problem is jao said "just do dragon things"

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what would imply that its not rarely

tardy perch
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Well that's too vague. ANYTHING you do in this game is a 'dragon thing', because we are dragons XD

misty walrus
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well do dragon things HARDER

tardy perch
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That's like him just saying 'play the game'

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Hardly a hint

dense current
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doing dragon things can be very subjective in a way. one person may think a dragon does different things than another

misty walrus
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then we do all the dragon things

frank abyss
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I would just say~ go check the private servers discords. They know a few things about Elders atm.

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don't get to hyped

steady rock
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Why can't IT be said here? Everyone's so misterious about these infos

restive barn
dry mauve
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cause they dont know either lmaooo thats why

tardy perch
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If someone does know how to do it, they are keeping it secret. Although it makes little sense TOO keep it a secret from EVERYONE. Not everyone plays on 1 private server afterall

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Yeah I doubt they actually know. It's just people being trolls most likely

dense current
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^

restive barn
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hopefully we figure it out soonbioheart

tardy perch
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Who the heck is scared of being banned for sharing game mechanics? Hello?

dense current
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i will not believe anyone knows how to elder untill we see actual proof shrug

tardy perch
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Trolling is a more bannable offense

steady rock
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It's not the first Time tho, I saw Others mention stuff like "I have my reasons to believe IT exists" ect

dry mauve
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nah those who "know how to elder" were banned for hacking lmao

restive barn
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banned for using game mechanics, BEGONE!

dry mauve
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jao wants us to know hes been givin hints

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we just need to figure it out

heavy ridge
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2 people can keep a secret if one of them is dead, if they're sharing it behind closed doors and not here? Yeah, they're just trolling. They don't want to get fact checked where the jig will be up.

tardy perch
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We'll either stumble upon it or the day comes where Jao puts us out of our misery XD For now, we throw dragons at walls

tame crest
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Get...the dragon shotgun

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we're firing all the elder theories at the wall tonight

dry mauve
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we start fresh

high wagon
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i would appreciate it if you didnt spread misinformation regarding staff.
if you have complaints you can submit reports in the appropriate places

frank abyss
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Have thanks

steady rock
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Dragons hoard shiny stuff, try hoarding bios, kidnap the bebes, if you gather 100 and they spit on you at the same Time you'll glow so hard you ascend to elder

tardy perch
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XD

dry mauve
stray notch
naive otter
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whatever endgame is in 1.0

tardy perch
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I'd imagine all that means is you can only do it as an alive adult

naive otter
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eldering is complicated now 🙃

tardy perch
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Cuz the only 'endgame' atm is breeding for better stats, or PVPing

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Oh gosh imagine if eldering REQUIRES a A BL all A gene dragon....lol I doubt it but it would explain why no one has it yet (unless I'm wrong and a official servers somewhere has this?)

naive otter
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so far i havent gotten any A's. close i've gotten is at least 1B so farr

stray notch
naive otter
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yeah so has to be done with something that has E BL too doesnt it?

tardy perch
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Well see, getting a dragon to all A's from scratch is for sure a clan thing, but getting nested can be done by anyone, even solos

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So I wouldn't rule it out JUST yet. At most someone in my lan as an ASD that is A BL and ONE gene with A, but they got nested by someone else.

summer arch
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most clans keep nesting inter clan

tardy perch
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I honestly doubt it's that though because getting an all A dragon is NOT easy.

bleak python
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You literally won’t be nested as anything other than Bio in a PvP server.

tardy perch
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It requires a lot of note taking and such. so yeah I really don't think it's that just by principle

summer arch
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yeah its just not that imo

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it would require to grind for a bl then find how to elder then grind on elder xd

steady rock
stray notch
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but still wont nest As LOL

tardy perch
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I already said it wasn't the all A dragon thing, at least I HOPE it isn't.

stray notch
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just never think abt it, it MUST be something u can do as a spownd dragon, spowned skin, spowned stats

deep gyro
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Does that one hint really say “go to” to get redacted??

stray notch
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yes

tardy perch
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Gotta do a three word thing, then go somewhere

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Interesting

stray notch
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||go to taco bell and get some taco||

deep gyro
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Need a dictionary with uh
Nouns n verbs n stuff

stray notch
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HOOOOOOLD ON

deep gyro
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Or whatever to complete the sentence so it makes sense
It’s a obvious go to thing after doing 3 things

stray notch
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limme bring smth

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Jao qoute on elder system hint :
you have to REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED then obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED

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doesnt the first 3 redacts seem familiar?

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SO

deep gyro
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Which section would fit the 3 redacts here I need clarification

stray notch
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you have to ||you must take the first step|| then obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED

sleek kelp
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Maybe you need to grow three starter dragons to adult? Shadow scale, flame stalker, inferno

stray notch
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hold on i lost english this is not 3 words

sleek kelp
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Hence “endgame” I guess idk

deep gyro
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I thought of walking, trotting, running, then flying but it didn’t do much

tardy perch
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I've only grown Ir to adult. But surely many people have grown 3 or even all 4 starter dragons to adult by now

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I dunno how many in this chat have done it (I've only done 1 lol), but maybe something client-side appears when you've done that

sleek kelp
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Well ASD and Bio aren’t starter dragons, there’s only 3

tame crest
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I have all adult dragons on the server I play on.

sleek kelp
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Yea was just a thought

tardy perch
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Oops sorry, why did I think aSD was a starter...ignore that.

stray notch
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yall know whats interesting