#New Elder System
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Mood
Here is a shiny lugia that I just got. Hope it rises the spirits 😂
Catch it, name it Elder
Fr
May its shine light our way
Blessed by Lugia
No name it redacted
I feel like thats the antihero name of this story
Elder vs Redacted
Redacted used ||Redacted|| it was super effective
Yes xD
Elder is now lost in confusion oh no
Have a picture of my round cat
I give up, my role here has been changed to cheerleader
Omg what a Purrfect roll
pompom cat
Marshmeowllow
Bruh someone literally figured it out and is gatekeeping??
??
It was a joke.
Someone trolling
Omg
Thats the one thats not fully grown right?
They’re not even full grown lol
lmaoo
If you open up the image you can see its called like "this is a joke im sorry" or something, lol

i already named it ruby XD
Nooooooooo who will fight for us now
XD
We have been FORSAKEN
you dont wanna know how long it took me to get it 🥲
shiny chances in soulsilver are atroucious
This is why Elder would have been the best name lol
Clearly not as long as it’s taking us to get Elder
oh buddy, do i have to tell you XD
Bro, i had a dream that the blitz came out and i was flying in the storm 
it took me so long that i forgot how to progress in the story lmao
Still faster than Elder
i dont think it took us more then 2 years to find how to elder XD
Sir/Lady/(Your Pronoun Here) it’s been 4.
I have to wonder if its even actually in the game yet
The true eldering is how old I get in the process of unlocking the secret
IRL elders
Lmao


Maybe the Eldering secret is just Prune Juice
Anyone drank the water while the falls are purple
Back in my day we used to scope out video games and try to find any tiny breadcrumb that would allow us to become elders
Yes prune juice must be it
i was the father still got nofen out it
anyone on sanctuary?!?!?
if anyone is, or will PLEASE ping me when its night in the server PLEASE
Alright
its "morning" in Sanctuary rn
so we gotta talk to trees?
Still no idea?
Nope 
The trees do talk… in some worlds at least
If the trees talk to you in this world, seek help xD
XD
xD
Maybe get high from mushrooms and then you can hear them talking? 
Why? U have an idea for the elder? 😄
Your daily princess 💜

They don’t talk to me in this world but they do to each other^^
Acceptable 😄
already tried it its cap.
welp RIP eldering
i've been reading through the google doc
and i got stuck at the part where certain flight routes were mentioned
wdym stuck?
as in reading
there is a round course in the very back of the redwoods (PR one)
plus i found this here close to ravine
which also is a connecting piece of grass oddly squished into that hill
location is in the ss
me and a friend are gonna test these out, maybe someone can check these on officials
if no one havn't alr
at the and of this path, there is a circular patch of green grass where the floor biom was just painted on with a round pencil on the dev map, at least it looks like it
ok ty for the option, I'll go try it on Jrakhon in a couple of minutes. I got an SS at arch
but- who knows maybe its intentional and not just lazy map coloring
maybe but worth testing
i got 3/3 agile so if anything comes ill let you know here
fair play, I got 3 in social so should be good test
theres a few sinkhole's/crater's
also this is the patch i was talking about. It has lazy tree placement and just looks not normal in here
with lazy tree placement i mean they are all in one certain line
The map is wip so that's probably nothing
It is
but what else have we left to try
there is also a course that you can fly through, like sort of a racing path
if its not intentional then its pretty weird that they made it in the exact same pattern as the course in red woods
bcs both of them have a single tree at one end, where you can fly around to go into your "next round"
could also be made exactly for this, give people something to start an event on community servers
who knows
not sure which route to take on it, doesn't appear to be a full circle of grass to follow so idk
if you start at the upper right point from my screenthot
you can go all the way to the end before the "dot"
Mermaid teaser????🤣
Could I get tagged in this Google doc?
I’m ready to further the research too lol
Oof ty I’m silly
The big tree isn't good :[
what D:
He's not in the right direction
which tree?
its in EF, 200 S, 410 W
ive been at that pond and explored it a bunch but didn't notice anything special Dx
even swam thru the tree
Read the whole bit.
I just don’t know what to think. If it’s nothing like it was in legacy, and the map/mechanics aren’t fully finished or implemented I’m 100% not sure what to expect.
It must be species-specific, it may be mutation specific..
and little if anything has been confirmed. How very vexing.
Must be solo-able (ie nonorhet dragonninvocled)
Must be available for all dragon/drakes (not flying only as asd cannot)
Not a camp-able location
Can't damage others because then how will pve elder
New Theory: What if it's an object that you have to find and consume/interact that spawns randomly on the map, something small.. much similar to the idea with finding the hybrid egg on the map yk?
thats solo-able,
for all dragons,
and isnt campable bcs once found it'll despawn and appear somehwere else
If it is a spawn like that; it'd be campable.
Once the pattern is figured out; people could camp it's spots.
given that it has fixed spawn points
which is most likely given as hatchies also spawn at the same spot rather then an area
but as a "first thing to do" before you can do other stuff it would make sense
just have nothing to prove the theory
Or once you eat it, it's gonna full despawn until you have to elder another dragon
Honestly this first step to elder feels like something simple like needing at least 1 passive elder tick to start eldering. It's not campable and not dependent on pvp, locomotion, etc
Kinda like how you needed to eat one elder mushroom to get the last mutation point in legacy
I spent a few hours flying across the map on my 10% IR looking for something with no success.
why are the blue crystals so damn bright btw
the one at waterfall cave is blinding my eyes almost
other crystals don't have this much glow
Yeah that one is super bright for some reason lol
If the first step is just having a single tick there'd be solid progress on what we're meant to do but we're just as in the dark.
but
i will try something rn
my bf suggested something and maybeeeee i will get an answer on this
Does anyone have a screenshot of jaos hint handy?
#ask-questions message
worth a shot
it doesn't really help us figuring things out but at least we know then that what we did so far can be ruled out 100%
its in the google doc that was pinned
Tbh- idk even know if it's in game yet.
WE JUST TALKED ABOUT THIS YESTERDAY
Anyone got a dragon translator
Sorry I'm versed in Aurebesh translation 
I should be asleep but I can’t stop concerning over this 
What is likely is the bit under the shadowscales back-left foot is "shadow scale", under singe is "singe crest" and the what I think translates into "allows" near the inferno's wing
we ask, we receive, wheres the alphabet for this?
watch it not be related to eldering
#lore-library
I fear in my heart it isn’t.
OMG that is cute!! 😭 ❤️
Its a lore codex so its likely just history pieces scattered through the map
Like Arks Dossiers
There might be some that mention elders, but it likely wont be soley based on elders
could be a better hint then what jao has given us
True 
I'm going off of pure speculation and using cipher logic here but so far I've got something about how shadow scales are dragons from the forgotten forests and biolumins are smaller dragons from the shimmering caverns.
Thought the Lore said that SS came from the west to FF because of a lack of food?
one part says foot something glow
Im figuring out the alphabet as I go
Because of venom stalkers
Foot pads glow maybe?
They got hunted on their islands and had to leave or die
To be fair a lot of the text is obscured so I'm just going off of what I can see
I’m just guessing but the two words above the IR wing I bet says “Inferno ravager”
my genius is unmatched
Yeah lol
wing tip of SS says biolumin
Translate the letters yay

The dash seems to be punctuation.
No doubt right wingtip IR would say Flame Stalker
Flame stalker hatchling?
Moar letters
Yeah its just a literal dossier.
I was afraid of that, but we did just discover many letters of the dragon alphabet
Missing J K Q X Y Z
This is me when I spent like 10 minutes in SWTOR translating an entire plaque of Aurebesh into English only for the plaque to have an english translation as a popup

Oh noooo
**Journal entry # ♾️ **
Today's date is March 1st of 2024. We have spent days, flying or even running the land far and wide. In search of a greater power. REDACTED. One that can help us raise a better life for our children and help protect our skies and lands. But to no avail. Our troops have searched nearly every inch of land as far as the eyes can see..or at least until the wall that traps us here stops us. What lies behind those walls I wonder. Anyway, we have noticed many crystals littered around. We tried talking to them, biting them, screaming..everything. Nothing. We have exhausted our options and have come so far as to scream at rocks, dance at bugs and drink the muckest water there is. Many of us are exhausted. Many have given up. Maybe one day this will all change but that also means we will be back to square one. Until then. May our journey continue on.
I think they wrote that
oh
It's not an official thing

i was about to say LOL

I think you need a nap lol. Or to pet a cat for 10 min 🤭
If only it was a hint ; ; but even if it was, that would still give us nothing lmao
But yes I wrote that for the laughs

that was the wrong ping lol
I just might
Sounds like yall need some rest 
blah
we'll see each other tomorrow

the main frontier for this search is back. Still nothing uh?
I'm convinced there is no "new eldering system" 😭
is that Jazzy
o.o
you forgot our fight in redwoods back in legacy
good times
stay up from 4pm to 3am searching the entire map and doing activites. nothing. start at 1.9% and ended at 1.9%
checked ever pond and lake with NV..nothing is below them
same @dawn pelican
same....
I've written off the elder stuff for now, playing SWG instead 
Maybe I'll become an actual Jedi in there by the time its figured out.
im very much against it being mutation points and anything to do with breeding but something hit me when i was reading over what everyone said after i went to sleep... what if you nest and with the music playing..you fly your first born to the skies
ive been at the point of if i find how to elder i find it for like the past few days.
i aint hardcore looking for it now
What about asd tho
right, scratch that
yeet the baby into the water
drown it
if yeeting baby asds into water was the key to elder pretty sure my clan leader would have found it by now 
I dunno why you guys are convinced that there's no other method from passive ticks, when Jao himselfs SAYS it's in XD I know it's hard to discover, but that doesn't mean it doesn't exist
is he part of the yeetus the fetus religion by chance and yeets the unwanted babys into the water to cleans them from their sins?
idk maybe he lied? 🤷♂️
Wow okay trust issues much?
wouldnt be the first time >.>
Twas only a joke, Im sure its there somewhere
That was a bad joke XD
Ok there bud :P
Trust is like...such an important thing this day and age =(
Lime you work on how to elder right can i sent some pic of something i found in min
send it here marsin
I do not know the method (I wish!, and I'd share it). Only that whatever this method is, the ACTUAL method is 'easy'. Discovering it not so much
oh 100%
i dont want get kick out game for it
ah, must be a great leader
As soon as I figure it out Imma tell everyone lmaoo
same
i can Dm to Shen but not here
sure
It will be so nice when someone does sshare it ^^
Indeed ^^
at this point im just here for the tea XD
ok give me a i min
its fun watching this chat at like 3am est and watching people just losing it 
exactly
It's...3pm. Not am XD But still funny
Pfft 8:39pm for me.
its 9pm for me
im just reading up on everything in the morning and start with my dose of insanity for the day XD
If eldering really is anythign like becoming a Jedi in Resto, its annoying to unlock but once you have that first step with force sensitivity the rest falls into place. Its just figuring out the first trigger.
fallen/big tree
It would be cool if that was the idea
If it was like that, wouldn't that mean you'd need x amount of playtime? In this case, it would either be account time (doubt it) or how long your dragon has existed.
My guess is the second one. But there's got to be another step after that if so
Well that's a prerequisite to even being able to start the process, the first actual step is the Inciting Incident which can happen anywhere at anytime.
Although it is, what's the word, cultivated to your professions so if you're not a crafter your Incident won't be crafting related.
i will say this
during my search..i did spend hrs in river. theres a lot more that was done in river than any part of the map
srry for the late reply but yea i can check it out whatever it is
Got to love motivation dying due to all progress working equally slow due to insaficiant information and not lack of trying.
Uni is here!!!
Where is this lore from? I have never heard of it before.
o.o
aww i thought you found something
sadly not
i wanted to join the complaining
bcs i lost motivation as well
rn its easier to beleive that they are sending us on a goose hunt
which i really dont want to think
but it gets frustrating
esp bcs its such a core gameplay point
so many things are missing in 1.0, and additionally they are hiding/not revealing their most looked forward core feature (eldering)
i totally understand that its cool to figure it out on yourself
kind of a trophy hunt
but-
i also understand very well why so many people are upset with it as well
i dont want to play a riddle game
i want to play a dragon game
Tbh this would have been more cooler for a bigger release not 1.0 but yeah
Like when the map was done, and the new dragons out
but yeah anywayy
this is the thread to find it out
so we shouldnt complain in here about not searching lmao
mb
I will patiently elder tic until next hint
oh wow
we're at the same position we were at when 1.0 dropped. no clues or nothing.
the least that could make us all motivated is some kinda in game text saying were on the right path at least
look into #ask-questions
i did a post about that
not answered yet
this is all the "phrases" we been working with: #hinthint #hint #jaohint
One of his hints said it is hard to figure out, but cool to do.
according to jao it can be done at any time of day
you must take the first step before you can climb the elder ladder
Feels like those who know how to unlock elder are the only ones who see it as easy.
The method is only easy when you already know the answer, but why make the first part so specifically hard?
If it is timed, or a sequence of specific actions and you get one wrong without even knowing what to do- that would be pretty inefficient for making it “fun”
It’s only fun if you already have the answers, not for anyone else-
I did not know it could be done at any point in the day... then that scraps my idea of it depending on the time the sun or moon is in the sky..m
Have we made any progress?
none
No
Hard to find, but cool once you discover it....... so then what is considered cool to do for these dragons???
cool to do for jao*
its just if mushrooms werent considered very dragon-esc then what is
Depends on the dragon Id think, like some would think going invisable is cool but shadows do that like second nature so its not cool to them 
Its too subjective to decipher
these hints arent really hits they're just words 😭
hints are meant to give some form of direction even if it is the most minimal thing
for all dragons, jumping off a heigh point.
I dunno if thats cool or just something as a necessity mostly for the young
asd cant fly
asd can jump off high points
watch my word play
there are a few spots that let you do that
Tell that to the player that launched his ASD off snowy peak
That ASD flew ... downwards
LOL
gdi devs we’re literally sacrificing our own dragons for this damn thing just TELL US
Did we try flying above the clouds and deep diving from the clouds?
ASD
.....enlgish?
they just think its neat is what they said
thx
(I'm on my phone on lunch, "I just think it's neat". My mind fixated on the cool to do part.
enlgish sounds like some sort of fish at a restaurant
I will now use the power of patience to try and figure things out 
Not the power of friendship? xD
Power of friendship is social 🤔
LOL
Nah, just gonna play the game as normal while recording
And hopefully have an actually good reaction time because last night I kept periodically seeing a blue light >_>
Hasn't done anything, but also my reaction time sucks as it disappears before I think to do anything
Could just be a lighting bug
'
But still worth a shot to at least have video evidence if I see it again
yeah. in my experience those things are usually crystals, or bio spat dragons from a distance
would be cool tho if it turned out to be something tho
yea please do that cause i havent seen anything of that sorts and i got 4k monitors
Yeah nah, sometimes I could be sitting still and it'll show up and then disappear
And there's nothing around me but trees
Literally had it happen as I was sitting and chatting and I was like "Wait what- dANGIT IT DISAPPEARED ALREADY"
So instead of relying on my reaction time, I will record my entire gameplay in hopes of seeing it again
Dumb question, are we able to activate any emotes while asleep?
Will for sure try that if I can run up to it before it disappears, assuming I get to see it again tonight
hopefully 
how goeth the eldering
noneth
xD
kneweth it
question for yall, whats the most obvious thing when it comes to eldering that comes your mind
yes
Si
i've got nothing obvious, i think we tried all the obvious things first
and some not obvious
some outlandish
in the box
out of the box
beside the box
under the box
threw the box away
dug it back out of the trash
repeated all steps
I'm going to try growing all the dragons to adult in order, see if that works.
Outlandish, probably something with emotes would be funny
i think that's been done roxi
I'm even considering looking in the pokemon dragon types evolution to see if i find anything
All spawn dragons, or some hatched some spawn, or hatched only?
not sure as it wasn't me, but i saw others talking about it here
Jao said its hard to find but cool once you do... granted that depends on the person and what they find "cool." You must take the first step before climbing the ladder.... 😑
yep
Something not Campable... something that can be done by every dragon and solo-able...
And is "grindy"
mushrooms were grindy so id imagine its an interactive thing that grants 1-3% ticks as well
or a sequence of events
honestly dont know what we are looking for. Is it an object, food, platform, dragon, location, item..yea its so vague. no clue
Just tell us what it is already, Im loosing my freaking mind
fax
Wasn't there a similarly vague hint when legacy eldering came out?
Where the clue ultimately was a hint to find elder forest
Has anyone been here long enough to know what I'm talking about?
the only hint is that simple not campable and all dragons can do it
and we need more then that
As I started i got told about the elder shrooms thought this riddle is a new thing but now knowing they already did that before...
But finding shrooms on the map is way easier then the riddle we're doing right now since not a single soul could give us proven information on how to elder in 1.0 (except the infos we have rn)
If anyone remembers this, this might be a good reference to how to decipher his current phrases look for patterns in speech or thr way things are referenced
honeslty all locations are campable is what im thinking...what can a dragon already do:
- 'E' interacte
- bite
- bile
- emote
- walk/run, look around
- fly/swim
it has to be able to
ít must be a thing that is now in the game waether is deactivated
idk i got a elder tick tho
Sit/Lay/Sleep
dont forget the important bit of a dragon ^^
That's what I'm thinking. I know jao hinted to look for elder Forest when elder shrooms were first added but I don't remember how he phrased that clue way back when
I do remember it was not a super obvious clue, just like now
Do you by chance know a rough date when eldering was released in Legacy? I could do some digging around discord around that time posted by him
This might be a really good lead
i think i have an idea, lets bother the devs by asking them only how to elder over and over again atleast once an hr per person
madness

Prior to August 2021 or 2022, which is when I bought the game. Eldering was already in and known
I can work with that 
this will only end bad
Asked a KS who subscribed way back in 2019 and they said they thought it was 2022 sometime maybe. I'd start there

Actually he didnt say it was cool once you do. He said that eldering was hard to do once you knew how, cool. Basically just ended it with a ,cool
The exact messages are in the docs.
Also.... unsurprisingly. Nothing new I've found today. Just more dead ends.
something cool is subjectivew
its always dead ends
and not a good hint
yea i had to switch cause ive reach nothing but dead endds
if we had a good hint to the eldering system we would all find it within a few hours
August 13th 2022 looks to be the date Eldering was figured out
even went to coords where there was shrooms at in legacy. nothing.
Correction August 9th
Hopping to bed, but if you find the hints, could you just ping me for the sake of the docs?
🙏
Of course!
Thank you kindly! Happy hunting and thank you for your sacrifice 🫡
i just went though the monster hunter lore
about elder dragons
because WHY NOT
Monsters that defy the law of nature and can perform super natural feats like heating up the surrounding (Teostra/Lunastra), call lightning (Kirin), creates tornadoes (Kushala) aka walking natural disaster.
Time to melt snowy
Okay so Shrooming is referenced in messages as early as Feb 2022, Jan 1st 2022 someone states eldering is not in yet so we've narrowed down the window
get their cheeks clapped still
Jao's clue had to predate that then
there is no eldering you see @w@
#general-chat message
if there was jao would say it 😛
This is what Ive found so we start here and comb
I remember jaos hint for legacy had to do with forest if that helps
We are going to go backwards to decontruct the answer : mushies down to Jaos hint to see if we can learn key words or phrases he uses for referencing
Yes but it's the same person giving cryptic clues. Hoping to kinda analyze the clue he gave back then and how it relates to the known method, and apply it to the new clue
NEW IDEA
we give up
lmao I found you! #spoilers-unlockables-endgame message
nono i was thinking we knew like public emails to just spam their email with how elder
is joke btw
don't do that
😭
unles
imagine getting off of ur break then hop on your pc to see tons of emails just titled as "HOW TO ELDER"
haha
First thing Ive learned: Jao has always loved the word redacted 
Aww sorry. Sad.
new merch coming soon: "REDACTED" T shirt
Id buy it 
there we go
redacted t shirt
what about a redacted hoodie
yk we've lost it when redacted t shirts are being made😭
I WANT THIS AS A HOODIE
You sure there was a hint given for the original Eldering?
I coulda sworn but maybe I'm full of it. It was 2 years ago. I'll do some digging myself tonight and see if I can find it
you probably merged this situation to something in the past
I can see that Elders use to be called "Alphas" There was a transition somewhere im looking for the transition at the moment to see if there was a change in growing method
But Eldering was a thing on the launch of the FS, so Im going back pretty far now
Patch 1.K.J.0 references this "This patch fixes several ongoing issues and also includes hidden content for the upcoming 1.L Update."
Though the content listed in the 1L notes dont mention anything elder wise, none of them do that I can see until the FS was released and they say they added in Mushrooms for the FS until Lava Lands is completed implying the shrooms will be moved
Ugh I wasnt spamming bot let me do things
Since I cant write this in text https://gyazo.com/1ed9e9c3ad25500a2df9673598881e1b
Yellow sent trails are more than just nests, they are also clues, if that still applies now is unknown but it may be a lead
@rough root Heres a theory for your Doc
This is from Patch 1.K.H.0
This is also the patch that Eldershrooms were added in quoting "Added a new species of Mushroom" Green shrooms were added in this patch after doing more looking in the discord to match the date of the patch.
i have yet to find a green shroom in 1.0
so dont think any of the shrooms besides red ones are in
Yeah were back tracking the elder reveal of legacy to decrypt the way jao gives hints
i dont know if any older stuff will be of any use besides the smell one
if clues are in technically. maybe it can help maybe not
I mean smell one is something I wouldnt have known so you never know, right now were at a stale mate with theories anyways and Im bored af so
Worth a try
if only if it was a different color and not the same color as nests then it'd be helpful.
Still better than no scent at all
true true
Would work well on a low pop server
Scent yellow represents more than just nests?? 👀 clues to what??.....
Thats my question too
WELP, TIME TO START SNIFFING EVERYWHERE
SNIFF ALL THE THINGS
wait yellow isnt always nests?
are you telling me everytime ive sniffed with nobody around to see 0 nest that i was on to something
WATCH THIS WAS WHAT WE MISSED
FR
SNIFF EVERYTHING
ALL WE HAD TO DO WAS SNIFF
Yellow has always been nests but its also been "Clues" since very early on
and I dont see mention of that being changed
If it has it hasnt been noted in patchnotes yet
What could there have been clues for in Legacy?
right
That you would have sniffed out
maybe elder mush?
No they were green
hey wait what was the orange sniff for again?
They are classed under edible flora
The orange was corpses from what I was hearing
Perhaps we can get soem slight confirmation from devs if this is still active and implemented??? And I mean fully functioning, not just "oh yeah but the "clues" aren't in the game yet so that secondary yellow scent is useless rn..." -3-
I doubt we will get the confirmation but Ill keep searching the notes to see if theres more mention of them changing it
Guys, question on this topic... I never really focuses on Eldering in Legacy, but when you sniffed... what were/are the color of the lines leading to Elder mushys?????
green
We're they green? Liek thr others?
Green
Hmm...
Thats why I found it note worthy
Well mushrooms are.... akin to a plant so ok.... im not sure there was any other purpose for a yellow scent line in legacy to begin with... because there was nothing more to interact with.
Nests, Yellow would lead you to nests as well as "Clues" according to that patch note, Nests I have forsure seen as yellow but I rarely follow them after I figured that out
One issue popped into mind tho.... scents lead to something. One thing... object or place... wouldn't this then make it... campable? Especially if fixed in place?
It specifies clues tho, doesnt necessarily mean it must be an item
But maybe something that would hint to something more
I partially imagined we could find a cave woth markings on some wall lol. That would be something fixed in place... but I suppose not completely campable if there's nothing to exactly touch.
Did you know DoD has Bug and sky slug AI models?
Sky.... SLUG???
Yeah something like a note to a hint to go elsewhere or do a task
sky slug
Do we have to nom sky slugs for elder?
Looks like a mutated experimented on Sky Jelly 🤣
Theyre not in game its jsut a model XD
Ah, was going to say. If it’s wandering it may not be campable
Hiding in the clouds lmao
Actually, it irks me we call them sky jellies. They may flaot but they are not up in the clouds lolol
I mean it is more in the sky than regular jellies
It makes me wonder what is between the sky and the ground
Matter 😛
We are all matter so true
ugh i just wanna figure it out
So Elder shrooms were indeed in the game from the beginning it was passive ticks that were added later, so looking for hints for that no longer apply
0.0... oh I coulda told you that. Yeah the passive ticks were added in later on because of all the back lash complaining about how people are camping the mushrooms so bad that someone not connected to a large clan wouldn't be able to achieve it.
Someone mentioned earlier that there were hints given for the previous eldering method, I was back tracking to look for what these hints were so I could see how they were worded in relation to the answer we already know, and perhaps learn something about how Jao likes to word things then apply that method to what hes saying now see if anything lines up enough to give a lead
has the flying/running distance theory been tested?
Yup
dang
everytime i fly into the clouds i get a lil excited when the music starts playing, but it means nothing 
I flew from one corner to the other in a single flight... nothing happend
#spoilers-unlockables-endgame message
Digging around as well not much on actual hints themselves
Just mentioning that the hint had to do with the map name Forgotten forest
This might be exactly what they were trying to remember
yes that is it
Ive noticed a lot of people mentioning that the hint was actually given out on Patreon and is probably why i cant really find much about it in discord
Ooofff Thats rough
Sadly :c But i hope this helps ^-^
im gonna look and see if the hint is still up on patreon but im sure they took it down at this point
hopefully thats false
because theres 0 reason a hint should be behind a paywall
If you type in Elder hint into the search bar and select old the first msg is "Will subscribe to patreon for elder hint"
It atleast solves one question but unfortunately without seeing the hint we cant see how he worded it 
#spoilers-unlockables-endgame message
There was also this but im unsure if that was the actual hint or not
I appreciate you
np! :D
that hint makes sense for that time
as its a clear indication that whatever it is its in a forest
and what we got? we might as well have just had jao show us a computer screen as an elder with no real context
Assuming that was how he worded it exactly yeah
Probably false, but if it was true hint should be given to kickstarters instead not patreons🤷
tjere's some interesting stones between elder forest and lime forest
they look kinda like steps
but i am sure i am not the first one to notice and I didnt notice anything else special about them
Sniff them!
already did
More than likely but at the time that eldering first came out it would make sense if Patreon members got the hint first
Oh i copied and saved someones msg from earlier with some of the hints
this is all the "phrases" we been working with: #hinthint #hint #jaohint
One of his hints said it is hard to figure out, but cool to do.
according to jao it can be done at any time of day
you must take the first step before you can climb the elder ladder
The last one could be literal and not just growing to adult
and all the hints we've been given we've shared so far soo nothing secret behind us
we all want to help
Imagine we doing all this just for it to not be in the game
wouldnt make sense since jao said he would change it in 1.0.1 (so blitz release) if we dont figure it out. hopefully an easier method
https://gyazo.com/88b2de37f052c0307886a6ce9c9a7b84 Why does this fish look so unimpressed 
LOL what happened to it
Omg
I have no idea ask the Devs, its in their patchnotes in 2022
What u talking about Noct he's screaming for joy 
no thoughts behind those eyes thats for sure 
Literal 😐 energy
wymmm hes givin us a lil smile
My spirit animal
imma hop on and start testing some stuff out, im starting to think its just one thing and not multiple steps
Im gunna keep scowering patch notes to see if the "Clue" Scent lines have been taken out
Might just dive into see if the files have anything
I tried doing that server side but i found nothing but also I dont quite know what to look for I was just bored and hoping for it to stick out 
XD
Thats valid
Also if anyone needs those Hints and phrases were working with so far feel free to @ me
Okay I am officially through every patch note and dev blog from DoD since the beginning of time, There is no mention of this mysterious "Clue" scent line being removed or changed in any way
Anyone know if Jao indicated it’s something that can be noticed on any graphics settings? There is a huge jump in lighting and textures between some of the settings. So curious if something has a lighting cue but it would never be seen on low/potato lighting settings vs high or higher
Hes not mentioned anything about that, or really much at all in relations to how to find it or what might happen or change
didnt see anything as adult either
I highly doubt it would be something only noticible with higher textures and such that would be highly unfair to ppl using lower settings
Right, I’d agree it would be unfair but in the chance that it was a detail overlooked ya know?
Im thinking the thing we need to do is like an action its self? not something we necessarily have to find
Oh yeah no for sure, its possible but idk if theres many ppl that can play with high graphics :c
Using bile light in the caves for example to find shadows or glow marks
Would be an example of oof if it is and low graphics would never show it
RiP Potatos
i play with high graphics and found nothing
They arent answering any questions related to eldering atm
Meant mention or ask this chat, not a dev XD
Oh 
asking this chat is the equivalent of talking to a brick wall sometimes
All our brains are fried
i mean... since the devs haven't given us a warmer or colder or even on the right track or proper fekin hint
Sometimes the wall works as a soundboard XD
XD
i like banging my head on the wall
Quick question does anyone know whats been tried before i start testing my own theories rq?
Theres a google doc in the pins
I know at least it more than likely has nothing to do with crystals, flying to music point and something with snowy mountains
has anyone tried making a pentagram out of corpses
But theres more not on the doc tbh its an extensive list
LOL
and then sacrifice a hatch
We tried mediating in differnet areas making calls, some like the 3 calls in a row to summon the bug, following Lore behaviour patterns I.E Shadows are nocturnal.
Searching for blue orbs near river in the forest or something about pearls, I didnt really follow those ones so I dont know the extent of that one
Drinking from every water source, mass killing bugs, uh keeping food below 2% ?
Eating red mushrooms until sickness was 100% using the blurry vision to see if anything shows only in that state
someone tried an all Mushie diet at one point, as a "Passivist" dragon growth to match jedis ?
from hatchling to adult
There was the arial course aswell, all points in agile and flying through ravine in close quarters to arch or trees
Well cos im trying to look at our phrases from a literal standpoint Without trying to think to hard about it But jesus and all mushie diet had to suck 
Yeah Im not sure what dragon that was done on, RiP if it was a FS lol
Oh we also tried travel time, SS flying alot, ASD running all over the map, exploration as if Fog of War was a thing and you gotta uncover the whole map
Jesus XD
XD
well cos jao said it was Hard to figure out but cool to do, so im assuming it might not be a place this time?
didnt we get confirmation that its not location based?
Thers not really much confirmation on anything just speculation
It was said at one point that it was not something that could be camped which ruled out single location based or at least timer / respawn timed
Im trying to look at it from the perspective of if Asd could do it too
As far as im aware the only thing that was directly said as a hint was the ladder remark
which right now rules out anything with the clouds
Everything else was phrases or references made or topics he talked about after or before eldering was asked about which could be taken as a hint but also couldnt be
Could be something we have to actually climb before we can work on eldering would make sense since its something asd can do too
We did talk about walking up snowy, someone did it on ASD then launched themselves into the clouds lol
XD
i keep trying to think of something to help, but everything seems to be done and tried
We've really done so much since launch
Once we got past the crystal hype we power housed through so many theories and circled back on some a few times also
im assuming we've already tried from a pure square one method too, no preconceptions and stuff
granted, thats hard to do without a pure;y new third party
He said its cool to do so what would we think would be considered cool as eldering
but hard to kind of figure out
Cool is too subjective to consider imo
yeah, i was thinking that
Everyone has their own perspective on what is cool
wait omg im at arch and part of the rock kinda looks like a pp


Oh yeah of course, but theres always things a group of ppl as a collective think is cool even if only kinda
have we used photo mode at all?
I use it ALOT
dang
Sometimes I forget to turn my hud back on and nearly die
XD
mood
Never know when the lighting is gunna hit just right while flying for the perfect screenshot
fr
I have one screenshot got my SS booping the stting sun with her nose and her head is perfectly framed between the split in her tail
Timing is everything you gotta be ready
Thinking ahead of the times hehe
Gotta capture those memories before Im murdered 
whens the last time jao said anything?
A couple days ago he made the ladder statment
you must take the first step before you can climb the elder ladder
I really dislike the fact that theres a possiblity that asd is totally different for eldering than the drags that can fly
he can stick that ladder [REDACTED] just way up there
LOL
lets go [REDACTED] the mountain and then [REDACTED] everything in sight
XD what if his whole "SO GUYS you have to REDATED REDACTED REDACTED. then you obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED" is actually S you have to Climb the (Idk). then you obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED"
maybe we have to ||[REDACTED]||
I literally deciphered it to say " You have grow to adult then you obviously have to go to 100% to get Elder"
Implying you have to passive elder
XD
Feelin like an SCP page with all of these redactions. 
i made mention that if there were any more i wouldnt be able to look at an scp entry the same
I like to think that we have to just fling ourselves from something
from our sanity and mortal coils?
Yeet your ASD off the highest peak and survive the landing
too late
What if you have to scream redacted in global to elder?
Hit the sky box on a flying dragon and free fall
especially if the hatchie is a dev

but the poor asds
I took a hatchie to above the cloud and dropped them they were falling for AGES
they die?
Can't die to fall dmg in pve
Cant in PvP either
This is redacted that everyone still trying to figure this out
totally redacted
Why not just call the chat the New REDACTED System
Give us a better redacted hint
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Here yee Here yee read all about [Redacted]
lets redacted everything
The REDACTED Times
rename this to the "new REDACTED System"
leave nothing un REDACTED
The great Redacted
I'm redacted about this ladder to elder
the great REDACTED😭
[REDACTED]
good thing i bought a REDACTED so I can REDACTED
How to REDACTED your dragon
[REDACTED] really does not bode well for our sanity
Nevar
Tell that to REDACTED
you can never REDACTED the bodies
This chat is dissolving before my very eyes... 

first time?
I'm sorry that's REDACTED
we have a daily meltdown before were forced to pump out more theories
keeps the moral :3
Fr
This game is makeing everyone redacted
Doesn't even feel like thread post anymore. It needs it's own channel XD
fr tho, this chat always goes in some other direction then back into the circle of theories
we destress by pointing out how hard we thonk until our thonkers realign
mhm
Lightens up the mood tho. I'm all for it. lol it's some of the best entertainment I've had for this game in a LOOOONG while... and that's a lil sad 😅
Idk my thonker is thinking that jao might be buying time and the elder system isn't in yet
ya i have fun going more insane tbh
Or I'm just so done with trying to figure out elder
btw don't bonk crazy everyone
Helps to have a little fun in chat
we all suffer together
though it is annoying not to know how or how crap the hints have been
seriously devs need to just give better ones for this or atleast something in game

from the outside in, it probably does look pretty funny
especially if you're in on teh secret
Well I'm going to climb the ladder to my elder bed
At this point I wonder... from a design standpoint... given how this is supposed to be a creature sruvival game... I'm ok with figuring some things out. that is fun in its own right. sure. But Now I wonder if some kind of text ingame notification guide or mini tutorial should be put in to explain, "Hey your dragon can become even more powerful. They can do these number of things. You just need to acquire this thing, but it is found all over and who knows where so keep your eyes open." Like some kind of lead to get you into that endgame mechanic.
maybe you have to bonk boulders
YES
THAT
heard of dragons bonking cars get ready to go back to when they bonked boulders
Definitely could use some better hints if we couldnt get that system
absolutely htis
I jsut wonder if that would be a good idea or would that take away from discovering the world aspect and exploring. Becasue I get that. ther is a joy in that kind of stuff... but jeeez
it is a good idea to put some kind of hint
but an actual hint, not the cryptic stuff
It jsut kinda made me think.... How do we even know about eldering? We;'ve played the game long enough with it changing in development and we follwo the discord... but what about players who don't come in here? Besides a random passive tick thing, how the hecc would some newb player even know what thehec eldering is or why even bother. "you feel strong..." uh.. ok? why did that happen? what was the point?
what they gave is so cryptic is not even a hint
I mean ppl have already explored all over and found NOTHING
like no joking right now serious talk
I think they are a jerk right now
i think the insanity is fun
I like solving puzzles but this feels like some sort of Cicada 3301
It's really not
should we be trying to examine every hint for scrambled text hints or something?
like, first or last characters, even lettered words, anything?
like jao if you read this you are a jerk I don't even know what role you play in all this
It's why I'm starting to think there is no way to elder in the game and jao just didn't want to upset ppl by saying u can't elder yet >.>
It just kinda feels like we as players don't have enough a real LEAD to get the ball rollign to trully invest in this... We jsut know becasue we've been around longer. we know what it does and so you tell others. But fromk a fresh player perspective.. I htink it's not explained very well at all...
honestly i wouldve been fine if it wasnt in 1.0
obviously we need a binary to text and then from there we need to put that into a url for youtube
^^^^^^^^^
fr if it wasnt ingame id rather be told "hey its not in yet its a wip"
he did say in a Stream that he wears MANy hats for the team. he isn't just the coder... He also has skills as a write I read somewhere, hence why he's making the lore for all the dragons and the world. And I'm fine with that. I liek the lore.
But he does a few others things too, I forget what else.
bah
#lore-library
am broke girl
same, but guy
There wasnt really much i found useful in lore library ngl but i mightve missed something
The point I was making is that Jao is also writing the lore to the entire world the game is set in.
He isn't just the lead and only coder for the game. This is a small team remember...
Yes
super rhino's REDACTED is small :v
damn guess that didn't work
as annoying and frustrating as it is, let's not turn our vitriol to the guy making the game we like
not gonna as frustrating as this is
And honestly you're more likely to get banned from the server than get an answer
meh on that one tbh only came here to see if anyone knows how to elder
Fair enough
If we did we'd probabaly pin it lol
oh i know
I'd hope so
i am mostly staying cause it is fun to stir up the insanity of this chat
i actually keep the thread open at all times, scroll up one line when i sleep, and go over the history when i wake up just to see if anything new has come to mind
most laughs a game discord has ever given me
Through the insanity emerges epiphanies
i wonder if hibernating is a thing, like have we tried sleeping to death?
that sounds like a waste if the point is to elder that dragon
Anyone wanna try Eating eggs of the same species? Someone that's not part of the bloodline that's nesting? The parents needs to be away from the nest perhaps?
doubt thats it
just figured, no one has talked about that yet
would make 0 sense in pve
I think we just gonna have to wait for a better hint ot 1.0.1
he's changing elder system by then
not a hint
unless he said he's dropping hints by then
but that could be whenever
they are taking a break rn anyway
Better give us a hint when they change it
Have I missed anything?
same as usual
have we ruled out the whole Star wars theory?
nope, just introspection on teh nature of our sanity
LOL
head empty, no thoughts, just [REDACTED]
Redacted Fish
think we had to because it couldnt translate into ingame actions
Was it ever specified what game it wouldve come from? or did we just think it was star wars galaxies
There was a specific one
but theres no confirmation on what game correct
It was referenced because of Jao getting spoilters for how to Jedi? or he didnt like how easy it was once people knew something along those lines
gosha
He stated which one I beleive I just couldnt tell you which it was I dunno starwars games
So the name didnt stick with me
ok so it was star wars galaxies then i think
Yes, Star Wars Galaxies lol
Yeah if we don't figure it out he's changing it so I'm kinda done with trying and getting no where so I'm saying we either wait for a butter hint or for him to change it
mmmmmmmmmmmmmm buttered hatchies
jk i don't hurt hatchies so long as they aren't trying to kill me
emphasis on trying
is funny when they do in pvp like bruh
The hatchie is the mightiest stage you are invincible
Till someone bites you
Or looks at u a lil too hard XD
Redacted doesn’t stand for anything like River rock, Elder tree, Donut lake, Arch, Castle, Twin falls, Elder tree, and Donut lake, again. Idk I’m frying here lol
yea we all came the the conclusion that its not a location
never got to read that?
So what gotta do 30 backflips and poof elder tick?
" The Shadow Scales asked to hear more and the Elder continued, "I remember a riddle my father would tell me of the forests South of the Winter Winds. He'd say, 'Fly West to the Winter Winds, then South across the frozen snow, the frostbite caves will take you there, where forests are green and grow.'" "
Winter Winds is the name for the ice biome, basically.


