i believe it
#New Elder System
last minnow
hazy mural
hmm now to rediscover what does were
last minnow
alright im here and i see nothing
do i fill it up with bugs or what
i need a sign in the the crater itself giving me a tutorial
lime viper
What was the glwoing flower thing earlier? did I miss something
stray notch
but still, the more detailed discord one is removed
stray notch
What was the glwoing flower thing earlier? did I miss something
glowing flower? bio's one?
last minnow
apparently it was a random bio egg
carmine belfry
glowing flower? bio's one?
They mean that screen shot from earlier with the glowing egg like thing
dawn pelican
What was the glwoing flower thing earlier? did I miss something
Was just a bugged bio egg
stray notch
hell yeah
@last minnow do u see this any helpful?
also, why cant eldering be by some farlands out of borders?
oh good do u see it there! its the winter winds
last minnow
i just wanna figure this nonsense out so i can elder in peace then be able to enjoy the elder calls
carmine belfry
Fr
last minnow
<@744063784464678935> do u see this any helpful?
and no, not very helpful
unless you are meant to stay invisible in the crater for ss
stray notch
i mean why is it saying its alpha
also, legacy elders had just "elder" in their life stage
now ALL elders have in their class : "ALPHA (1+ tier)"
with elder
last minnow
it goes based off of the admin command doesnt it?
well not based off of it
but the admin growth commands tell you the different stages
last minnow
no its not based off of the commands
stray notch
now an elder is an ALPHA
last minnow
they went by different names
i think it always was labled as alpha
i dont remember all the growth commands
i just remember them not going off of the normal "juvi" or "adult"
it was more specific
with ancient being one of them
stray notch
im going where it all started
languid spoke
so how are the theories this afternoon?
stray notch
rip. theory wrong
last minnow
LOL
languid spoke
stray notch
so how are the theories this afternoon?
my "afternoon" 💀
last minnow
LOL
well we have one theory from what our new hint from jao was
which is that you need to have an elder tick to start
then the rest puts us back right where we were like 4 days ago
languid spoke
cool, so step one: get passive tick
also, it's difficult to figure out but cool to do
and, most importantly
REDACTED
last minnow
right
stray notch
not camplable
last minnow
we are left at the end part of what jao said
last minnow
so client sided
languid spoke
which is brilliant
last minnow
one person might see it but the next person who already did it wont be able to see it
is my guess
best way i can explain client sided
stray notch
i found the ancinet water.
or its full of disgusting being that'll kill my dragon...
last minnow
oh boy
stray notch
one person might see it but the next person who already did it wont be able to ...
wait what i dont get it
last minnow
yea thats ancient alright
last minnow
ok so one person might be seeing one thing on their screen while the other might be seeing something completely different
stray notch
where tf is that lol
uhhh let me cheeeeeck it says 10$ to my paypal
last minnow
something client sided cant be interacted with by another person as that makes it server sided
stray notch
ok so one person might be seeing one thing on their screen while the other might...
so big chance something like eon's thing
last minnow
possibly, the only reason i keep bringing up client sided is because you cant possibly camp it and ruin it for other people
stray notch
also its at this thing in ELDER forest what makes it SUSUSUSUSUSUSU
somber shuttle
also its at this thing in ELDER forest what makes it SUSUSUSUSUSUSU
Thats what i thoughtttt. It looks like an obstacle course
carmine belfry
That's hideaway
fresh marsh
We are just rehashing everything at this point
last minnow
going in circles
stray notch
OH MY GOD ANCIENT WATER GAVE ME ELDER GROWTH
stray notch
That's hideaway
yup
stray notch
possibly, the only reason i keep bringing up client sided is because you cant po...
if u cant ruin it or do anything about it as another side, how is it social
guys i just cant think of anything but that theory of every mutate has its own method
it all makes sense
regal kernel
OH MY GOD ANCIENT WATER GAVE ME ELDER GROWTH
No because when I found that place I was like “ imma drink it poof I’m elder “
stray notch
its clince sided, its solo, its social at the EXACT SAME TIME AND THATS WHY WE HAVE A SOCIAL AND AN AGILE MUTATIONS
fresh marsh
If every mitation had its own method we eoukd have figured out the social one by now
stray notch
If every mitation had its own method we eoukd have figured out the social one by...
that might be the trick, its not basic its not something uu naturally do its someting u figure out
yk like flight course
fresh marsh
I guarantee everything related to social has been done, all people can do on pve/dve is social stuff
last minnow
ok well if it was mutation points, the heck happens when someone has them all over
restive barn
ss elder tick is 1.2% right?
fresh marsh
For ss yeah
last minnow
you get more on 2x
restive barn
huh my ss has 2.5% where did i got the 0.1% from?
last minnow
its 1.3 i thought
fresh marsh
You just can't see the last number, don't mention it around iso
restive barn
i see
fresh marsh
I'm still not convinced the first elder tick is thr first step he was hinting at
stray notch
BRO IM EXPLODING HOW DID SOME JEALOUS ENVIOUS PEOPLE ALREADY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT
fresh marsh
I have absolutely no idea what else it can be, but it seems like something we have to actively do
last minnow
well nobody has said anything else or has debunked it
last minnow
BRO IM EXPLODING HOW DID SOME JEALOUS ENVIOUS PEOPLE ALREADY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT
idk man its always the horrible gatekeepers that get to it first
it sucks
naive oxide
people already figured it out? huh?
fresh marsh
Yeah I don't know what tamim is talking about either
last minnow
supposedly a clan did
stray notch
a lot, from what i've seen
naive oxide
they need to tell us then wtf 
last minnow
fr
stray notch
untill now, i've seen 1 IR in survival, 1 IR in PvE and a lot more people do say are looking HUGE
last minnow
idek why people think its funny to gatekeep something
fresh marsh
BRO IM EXPLODING HOW DID SOME JEALOUS ENVIOUS PEOPLE ALREADY FOUND OUT ABOUT IT
What are you talking about?
stray notch
not elders im talking about im talking about HUGE and high % growth adults
last minnow
What are you talking about?
rumor is going around that a clan currently knows about how to elder and is actively doing it but are gatekeeping it even for pve
fresh marsh
What prompted you to say it though?
stray notch
alright tell us what u did? u for sure got a hint? it cant be FULLY mysterious
stray notch
What prompted you to say it though?
this
fresh marsh
Is that on official servers?
last minnow
yea it was confirmed they wernt on 2x either
fresh marsh
We have actual proof of elders on official?
restive barn
which pve server?
stray notch
Is that on official servers?
both
fresh marsh
Allegedly
last minnow
right
fresh marsh
So no proof
stray notch
We have actual proof of elders on official?
i have Screen shots, and a recording of an elder i BROUGHT THE WHOLE SERVER to look at him while he acting like a fool silent, then crash logged to not be seen
PvE*
restive barn
which pve?? sanctuary?
last minnow
that could have been an exploiter, some were banned prior
hazy mural
so any progress?
last minnow
no
hazy mural
damn
last minnow
if we did, we would be speaking in all caps
naive oxide
true lol
stray notch
which pve?? sanctuary?
yes
hazy mural
yeah makes sense
last minnow
theres no way the way to elder allows you to just skip to the end
fresh marsh
I certainly don't believe someone on a pve server would keep it to themselves
stray notch
that could have been an exploiter, some were banned prior
i want to cry but even crying seems to not satisfy
fresh marsh
There's no benefit, AND they would get bragging rights for discovering it
last minnow
but again, people find joy in gatekeeping
vale flicker
There's no benefit, AND they would get bragging rights for discovering it
You would be surprised a lot also keep nesting to their clans on pve
last minnow
so i dont fully doubt it, i say its possible
FR THO
they gatekeep like crazy on pve, its very noticable
fresh marsh
It would be too hard to keep the secret in clan
last minnow
not if its all good friends
fresh marsh
Its possible, but unlikely
last minnow
someone claimed that it was something you had to eat as said from this mystery clan
that just sounded fake all day
stray notch
It would be too hard to keep the secret in clan
thats if the whole clan knows? do theyu all know?...
last minnow
thats the thing
fresh marsh
It would be hard to not know someone in your clan was eldering
last minnow
it could be a small friend group that knows and are apart of a clan but didnt say anything
stray notch
all i know, is hacks are easy in this game.
last minnow
It would be hard to not know someone in your clan was eldering
but how it is being done is differently
bleak python
all i know, is hacks are easy in this game.
true.
last minnow
alot of them are custom made by said people, i honestly have some respect for them for that
fresh marsh
It's more likely that people are finding ways to skip the method entirely then
last minnow
fr, i want the adventure bit
fresh marsh
We need new people though we just have the same theories bouncing around right now
naive oxide
if someone mentioned whatever the solution was is to be clientside, wouldn’t it be possible it could be a location then? or something edible?
last minnow
the edible thing was supposedly a hint from said clan
so take it with 1 grain of salt
naive oxide
oh yeah for sure
hazy mural
yeah
last minnow
the location bit was said by jao in his last fill in the blanks rambling
so there is a location
with the knowlage that crater is supposed to be important for something
stray notch
the location bit was said by jao in his last fill in the blanks rambling
what?
ay that again
last minnow
spesifically the east one
stray notch
what if 12 SSs need to all full charge in one spot to open a portal
last minnow
what?
basically all the redacted nonsense with some "you have to go to..." then some more redacted
you get the point
dude
12 ss
where am i meant to find 12 people
thats a fraction of an entire server
timid bronze
what if 12 SSs need to all full charge in one spot to open a portal
wtf..
naive otter
Somehow my friend got an Elder tic but 5hrs ago she got her Daily tic. majority she's been doing is nesting.... but dont quote me here..
stray notch
UHHHH i tried to do toothless's cloaking method to open a portal BUT NO THAT WASNT GOOD
last minnow
Somehow my friend got an Elder tic but 5hrs ago she got her Daily tic. majority ...
time flies when you are having fun so i dont trust it
naive otter
time flies when you are having fun so i dont trust it
yeah but seems sus and even she was confused on how
fresh marsh
Is she sure she didn't mix up dragons?
last minnow
she probably mistaken the logging thing where it shows ur progress for a split second as a tick
stray notch
the location bit was said by jao in his last fill in the blanks rambling
wdym by rambling thats my question
naive otter
Is she sure she didn't mix up dragons?
Mostly been IR majority of the day
last minnow
yea im not buying it
naive otter
same but i would like to do more testing around it
last minnow
before i do it, has anyone tried flying directly up from where the east crater is?
stray notch
i have an idea guys
fresh marsh
Not asd
fresh marsh
But worth trying anyway
stray notch
i mean im secretly thinking and believing DoD is kiiiiiiind of taking some stuff of httyd
fresh marsh
I've tried all kinds of things I knew wouldn't work
naive oxide
you’re a little late with the httyd stuff 😂 shadow scales are literally night furies
vale flicker
you’re a little late with the httyd stuff 😂 shadow scales are literally night f...
Infernos lighting themselves on fire
stray notch
i mean, toothless, shadow cloak, even its element, and even ability and model pretty much EVERYTHING is a nightfury
flame stalkers, and inferno with that other fire dragon I FORGOT ITS NAME its that nasty one
naive oxide
exactly, a lot of stuff resembles httyd
stray notch
anyways, maybe eldering should be something taken from there too
stray notch
Infernos lighting themselves on fire
its fr that dragon PLEASE WHAT IS ITS NAME
lmao- this
naive oxide
monstrous nightmare
stray notch
yes!!
compact kindle
I actually had no idea ir and fs looked like httyd they look like a very basic western dragon and wyvern
stray notch
and blitz being a skrill... its all connected
compact kindle
https://tenor.com/view/zordus-griddy-hookfang-httyd-httyd-griddy-gif-12504542901...
Wtf is this 
stray notch
Wtf is this <:GooseWheeze:1072231978805493862>
i got no clue ask discord GIFS lmao
stray notch
I actually had no idea ir and fs looked like httyd they look like a very basic w...
both of DoD and httyd had same idea
compact kindle
Blitz reminds me of serpent dragons from thousand needles World of Warcraft lmao
Or the barrens from WoW
compact kindle
Well thats ominous af
stray notch
or no, the little darker ones
forgot their names they were like screaming death's minions
compact kindle
Lemme get to my pc so i can keep up
Okay lemme look it
That, looks nothing alike imo
Thats one spiky boi tho holy
stray notch
yeah not him white one limme grab the name of the other ones i totally forgot it
whispering death!
minor hinge
Smaug. For IR
compact kindle
WISPERING DEATH IS EVEN SPIKIER
That thing is based off an angler fish
Look at its mouth ToT
compact kindle
https://tenor.com/view/dragons-gif-5982769
This one I kinda see blitz, but his head so flat
vale flicker
Rumblehorn could be the brood watcher
naive oxide
^
tame crest
Man the HTTYD designs look so...off-putting 
I get its stylisation stuff but its just so odd.
stray notch
This one I kinda see blitz, but his head so flat
its fr a blitz
last minnow
how is this inf meant to help us elder
stray notch
also yk that egg stealing dragon
last minnow
Man the HTTYD designs look so...off-putting <:haha:819409514360078336> I get its...
thats why i dont like httyd
i never found the appeal to it
stray notch
its like that one hiccup found in the wild
compact kindle
also yk that egg stealing dragon
Zygovo
compact kindle
how is this inf meant to help us elder
yeah we spiraled a bit off course XD
somber shuttle
I guess this is no longer eldering discussion cause the community is going insane XD
tame crest
Yes
compact kindle
I guess this is no longer eldering discussion cause the community is going insan...
Weve been insane a few days now
somber shuttle
Oh trust me I know 😂 Weve tried every dumb idea thats come across someones mind just in case.
last minnow
its gotten to the point where im listening to the mc story mode ost while searching for stuff
vale flicker
What if there’s just an invisible door somewhere
fresh marsh
I'm just taking a break, im going out of state tomorrow and was hoping to help figure it out before then
somber shuttle
A door to what though? Like theres a key action or item that triggers the tics
compact kindle
Alrighty so we all meet at world tree and sob as a group and then elder through our tears
Our tears will grow the tree larger and it will grant us the powers we need
Jao we need a cry emote please thank you
last minnow
LOL
stray notch
how is this inf meant to help us elder
its meant to be context
eldering might be like how elder/ancient dragons in httyd do?
compact kindle
It is known as "waaaah" instead of cry
I meant in game dragon emote
tame crest
Ooh ok
tame crest
Yes please lemme flood the map with dragon tears.
stray notch
Jao we need a cry emote please thank you
change no emote with cry emote, give it to all elder system failed searchers. thank you jao
last minnow
if we start noticing more people actually like, getting more elder ticks then we might have to start following people /j
theres no other ideas going around
its about as empty as a desert here
naive oxide
we’ve exhausted literally every possible lead
stray notch
its meant to be context
eldering might be like how elder/ancient dragons in htty...
anyon got any ideas?
last minnow
every theory? completed and debunked
fresh marsh
Most people gave up or are taking a sanity break
stray notch
also ima try to go PvE, fu***ing make every high growth person HATE THEIR LIFE bc of how im chasing them
OR NOT
ima cloak as SS and watch them.
last minnow
IM about to take a sanity break
proper sedge
Did we do anything with the rock structures around the map?
vale flicker
Anyone try dive bombing from the clouds into different ponds?
last minnow
yup
and even xrayed in all of them using night vis
and wow, that got us somewhere😭
radiant hull
its all been done, except for finding the actual solution to our problem 
last minnow
and which we have tried
stray notch
why is bio island so special?
last minnow
alot gave up and are taking a break
fresh marsh
I've done nightvision and heat vision
tame crest
I'm just gonna go live at that one pond with the fireflies at it, idk what people call it.
stray notch
I'm just gonna go live at that one pond with the fireflies at it, idk what peopl...
WHERE IS IT WHAT IS IT
last minnow
why is bio island so special?
the cherry island?
tame crest
It has lotus flowers in it.
stray notch
the cherry island?
lol ig so
last minnow
lol ig so
cause it has a ton of flowers on it for bios
its the ideal nesting spot for alot of them at once too bc of it
minor hinge
was it [Official EU] Shadow Veil or [Official UK] Frozen Throne
[Official UK] Glacier Peak thay had the 4 elders
all pvp i kown some say there 4 elder on one them
my be we can work are way in see how thay did it
mellow dawn
Infiltrate
compact kindle
Spy mode activated
arctic scarab
It can't be a Bloodline ... im sure bc now we got the pasive point, even when we have an E BL.
minor hinge
what i saying
upbeat igloo
If it was to do with BL or stats, it'd be super unfriendly towards solo players
upbeat igloo
Yeah, I'm up to my 6th elder tick on my E bl dergon
minor hinge
dang what is your %
upbeat igloo
6.4%
minor hinge
you got 6 points wth
upbeat igloo
Inferno and 6
rapid radish
ohhh, I have all my data on inferno, still need asd mostly 😄
upbeat igloo
I mean, I could make a start on the ASD for ya xD
upbeat igloo
I could have miscounted. Idk. It only gives 0.9% each tick for me
At least for ASD, first elder tick is 2.1%
minor hinge
i was count these as elder point not tick
upbeat igloo
Those are mutation points. Elder ticks are the growth
minor hinge
so that my bad
my asd is at 31.2% in 12 days
that form day 1
we been work all so
last minnow
i didnt know there was that much of a difference
hazy mural
yeah there i was eldering a drake to it grew
the other dragons seem to follow the size trend
minor hinge
4.2% was there 2 tick
timber laurel
Want to know what annoys me to this day?
That some people already know what the method is and is keeping it to themselves so others can't
Mostly clans on PVP servers, But i've heard there we're a few on pve as well...
carmine belfry
Oh?
last minnow
Want to know what annoys me to this day?
That some people already know what the ...
this honestly is making me wanting to resort to scouting around when i see other people out away from everyone else
and turn into a spy
carmine belfry
Fair
last minnow
because im sorry but gatekeepers arnt good at all
arctic scarab
Maybe they keep it for themselves, bc it can be somethink that spawns ? and they dont want to have other dragons around
last minnow
Maybe they keep it for themselves, bc it can be somethink that spawns ? and they...
wth do you gain from that in all reality
gatekeeping a game feature which isnt even yours to begin with
its one thing if you made it
but its another when you are gatekeeping something you took 0 part in
this eldering thing is making me go so crazy, that im about to become a surveillance drone
gatekeepers are the start of my villan ark im sorry
minor hinge
I try my best iam on pve but i have not seen any eldering
my be the high on asd besuse i not been renest in
Ever one iam on is get high Stats
i dont care for high stats there nofen that can kill us on here YET
last minnow
i dont care for high stats there nofen that can kill us on here YET
glad im not the only one
skin matters to me and that it
tame crest
The best part is gatekeeping in PVE is kinda pointless because you get 1 point at 25% anyway?
bleak python
i mean if its people in pvp gatekeeping it makes sense. eldering gives you an advantage over non-elders so.. that would make sense. but pve players .. its 
tame crest
It didn't take me long to get 27% on my ASD just by logging in.
last minnow
yea gatekeeping in pvp, ok i get it, but gatekeeping for pve i just.....dont get it
upbeat igloo
PvE players (some, not all) are on a whole other level
last minnow
reserving and gatekeeping are 2 different things
minor hinge
i do care for some skins but whit the Skin maker come it be more hell
compact kindle
I believe its been stated that some people have been grown by the devs on PvE
So the elders you are seeing likely didnt elder properly
last minnow
some elders were cheated so those were banned
but the gatekeeping situation still is around
compact kindle
Some peopel also dont meta-game or use discord, there is also the possibility that they dont realize they are "Gatekeeping"
PvP'ers tho know what they are doing
Trying to get an upper edge, though given how soon it is since the update still I dont think theres enough people with 18A willing to go forth and elder at the moment, eldering anything below seems like a bit of a time waste for PvP
I genuinely dont think anyone has actually figured it out yet
robust crypt
this honestly is making me wanting to resort to scouting around when i see other...
Reminds me of when I saw some random dragon just sitting by the puddle inside the Arch cave while I was exploring on Sanctuary last night, just
All by their lonesome
bold tusk
Wish there was a statistic to say that there is people that made it to 50% to elder
hallow mountain
this honestly is making me wanting to resort to scouting around when i see other...
I'm in
last minnow
tame crest
I've stooped to asking chatGPT and it helpfully suggested that if I find a ladder, I climb it.
last minnow
😭
fresh marsh
is theere anything that resembles a ladder ot stairs on the map?
im currently looking
stray notch
was it [Official EU] Shadow Veil or [Official UK] Frozen Throne
[Official UK] Gl...
frozen throne someone says there is a leuce high growth elder IR
sanctuary i also say leuce IR that is HUGE
last minnow
follow them from now on😭
rapid radish
Ir got 6 points whit 6.4 how
IR tick is 0.917%. 0.917%x7=6.41%
fresh marsh
"The first step in building your ladder of success in Being Successful is Being Disciplined. Being disciplined means failing, falling down, getting up and repeating this process." time to throw myself off a cliff a bunch of times
tame crest
I like the version it gave me more. "Try different combinations of movements, interactions, and ladder usage to see if you can trigger the dragon to elder."
last minnow
LOL
upbeat igloo
last minnow
what are other words that can mean ladder
fresh marsh
tried that, stairs and steps
What's another word for ladder?
steps stepladder
stairs folding ladder
loft ladder roof ladder
rope ladder set of steps
portable ladder
extremely unhelpful
last minnow
ok how does that even help😭
fresh marsh
you asked, i answered
last minnow
"other words that mean ladder" : ladder
fresh marsh
or google did
upbeat igloo
"what is the function of ladder?"
Up or down... Nice.
fresh marsh
did you want me to create new words? lol
tame crest
"take first step before you can climb the ladder" just makes me think there's a triggering thing but what the triggering thing is anyone's guess.
last minnow
the theory im sticking to for rn is that you need an elder tick to start with
fresh marsh
i should be packing instead of running aorund trying to figure this out lol
lost lichen
Did we have an other hint? ^^'
last minnow
nope
heavy ridge
Did we have an other hint? ^^'
They've taken to ChatGPT based divination
minor hinge
climb what? a rock a mouting,hill what do we climb
mellow dawn
You can also climb down maybe something to do with the caves
calm marlin
i am SO CLOSE to making a whole corkboard or something
wheat bane
iron quarry
Not to sure with this one
Jao ur always so cryptic 
arctic scarab
This is easy, also some clans already figure it out on officials 😄
last minnow
This is easy, also some clans already figure it out on officials 😄
easy? then tell us what it is then
fr
compact kindle
last minnow
but hey, bc clans are gatekeeping rn, ive given the public an idea to start following people who are sus
arctic scarab
#GATEkeeper 😄
last minnow
they are gatekeeping the gates to elder, its not cool
arctic scarab
figure it out yourself
arctic scarab
gl
last minnow
if yk can we get a hint👀
arctic scarab
nope, im just reading this theard and have fun
robust crypt
💀
bold tusk
but hey, bc clans are gatekeeping rn, ive given the public an idea to start foll...
What server
I'll help stalk
tame crest
I just want to know if its even worth active eldering.
last minnow
officials
tame crest
If its boring then I'm just not gonna bother
last minnow
it could be any tbh if they move
compact kindle
They probably don't know it either jsut trying for a reaction
last minnow
mhm
bold tusk
it could be any tbh if they move
Well if it's a lot of pve or pvp I can help I got bio
tardy perch
Taking a peek in here to see if there's been nay progress. Keep in mind, I think the only way you'll know if you are even remotely on the right track, is when you get on your dragon for the day, be SURE you spot your elder tick and make note of what growth you are on. If you spot any more growth between that tick and 12 hours later, you might be on to something
fresh marsh
what makes you think it will be delayed?
last minnow
even if it was, im sure someone would have mentioned it
last minnow
ive been searching for at least 14 hours total
naive oxide
plus if it was “easy” we all wouldn’t be here a week+ going crazy trying every theory with 0 luck
tardy perch
Sounds about right.
last minnow
today i did 12 while multitasking
native yacht
im searching now and testing stuff
fresh marsh
smaug is 100% trolling, ignore them
last minnow
^
naive oxide
what are you guys testing rn? quiet on my server and bored so wanna help lmao
native yacht
emoting in different places that look "weird"
tardy perch
Nothing from my end. I'm waiting till more food is on the map before I start trying to find the method
last minnow
im taking a break rn
fresh marsh
not testing anything, i scoured the map for tthe 50th time and couldnt find anything ladder or stairs shaped or anything
native yacht
about to go offer the weird green lake a bug an see if that pleases the masses
last minnow
well its a riddle so i doubt it means an actual ladder
but was indeed worth the search for a ladder
native yacht
i think the ladder and step is an expression
last minnow
right
native yacht
the green water does nothing
delicate bridge
This has been there since day one
static mesa
anything new ?
fresh marsh
what were you doing
late venture
you get two elder ticks in 24 hours, one every 12 hours, curious to know though
naive oxide
nope i already had my daily a few hours ago
naive oxide
i’m pretty positive
fresh marsh
what were you doing
naive oxide
i was at BR and flew to the top of the smaller snowy mountain (didn’t land), 1 called when i got there just for fun then dove down as fast as i could in the little dip between the two mountains. my intention was to dive down then go up to the taller one with the clouds by the peak, but got the “you feel stronger” message about halfway across
eager abyss
he didnt say it was the same method for all of them tho
late venture
ooooo wow
last minnow
id say just a weird texture thing
fresh marsh
or just lighting, snow does sparkle
robust crypt
^
naive oxide
yeah, that’s what i’m thinking
late venture
but a dive from the snowy mountain sounds like a test of courage in the dragon way
naive oxide
but nothing else is here it’s weird i got it in this spot
late venture
🤔
robust crypt
Can confirm, snow is like glitter irl so it would make sense for it to sparkle in game
last minnow
but a dive from the snowy mountain sounds like a test of courage in the dragon w...
yea def
crisp narwhal
Something I think I should point out is that your elder ticks work even when offline. So if your elder tick is at 5pm, it's also at 5am. However, if you log in at 4pm, you will immediately get the 5am tick and then get the 5pm tick an hour later.
last minnow
it sounds VERY possible
naive oxide
606N 455E is where i got it
late venture
I don't have a dragon yet
naive oxide
it’s halfway between the two peaks
late venture
all I got is a bio that I've been helping nest in A BL
dry mauve
it’s halfway between the two peaks
What dragon was it?
last minnow
at what point did you 1 call
naive oxide
SS
last minnow
every little thing counts
naive oxide
when i flew over the shorter peak
naive oxide
the one coming from BR
i kinda flew parallel to the huge rock formation near the lake with the bio island
last minnow
alr so i did it wrong
delicate bridge
i kinda flew parallel to the huge rock formation near the lake with the bio isla...
You on an official btw?
last minnow
are you able to replicate it yourself to see if you can do it?
naive oxide
it’s not one of the “default” dev servers if that’s what you mean
delicate bridge
Iirc red bg servers are officials
naive oxide
it’s a community server
naive oxide
asking in global rq
delicate bridge
Lets hope its normal
amber hull
we have 2x atm for GD
naive oxide
said it’s 2x
delicate bridge
Then it might be a stray passive
last minnow
thats what im thinking
naive oxide
even if my last tick was only like 4-5 hours ago?
last minnow
didnt get anything from doing that
crisp narwhal
even if my last tick was only like 4-5 hours ago?
Something I think I should point out is that your elder ticks work even when offline. So if your elder tick is at 5pm, it's also at 5am. However, if you log in at 4pm, you will immediately get the 5am tick and then get the 5pm tick an hour later.
naive oxide
hmm, makes sense
fresh marsh
Something I think I should point out is that your elder ticks work even when off...
are you sure? if im late to collect mine, i usually have to wait another 12 hours
compact kindle
Something I think I should point out is that your elder ticks work even when off...
Does it not reset the timer anymore maing it 4am for the nest one ?
naive oxide
maybe it was a passive but idunno
crisp narwhal
are you sure? if im late to collect mine, i usually have to wait another 12 hour...
I may be wrong, but this is what I've been noticing.
delicate bridge
Pretty sure it was sadly
last minnow
unless you could replicate it, but i cant get it to work
delicate bridge
I may be wrong, but this is what I've been noticing.
I’ve noticed it too so i agree
naive oxide
crisp narwhal
Does it not reset the timer anymore maing it 4am for the nest one ?
I think if you miss 2 in a row then it will reset
native yacht
it was a passive tick yall wtf he even said he got the “you feel stronger”
you only get that from passive
naive oxide
you got them from mushrooms too
native yacht
nope
last minnow
nah
native yacht
delicious was what i got
naive oxide
hmm, could’ve sworn i did on a few
fresh marsh
we have no idea what the new method is, so its possible it says you feel stronger as well
native yacht
FALSE ALARM
last minnow
right
thats the only reason why i tested it, was because it could say the same thing
fresh marsh
cant rule something out just based on that
native yacht
back to the search i go
last minnow
yea, still gotta test it
and it has done nothing
we are back in the same spot we were 24 hours ago
native yacht
honestly missed opportunity to create a dragon language and have some insciptions on hard to find caves of old elder dragons on how to elder type stuff
gotta quote the homie Jtrout for coming up with that tho
last minnow
honestly missed opportunity to create a dragon language and have some insciption...
fr
compact kindle
That would have been amazing tbh
last minnow
like we are given no info really to figure it out
nothing
like 1 hint that leads us in a circle
and thats it
crisp narwhal
One of his hints said it is hard to figure out, but cool to do.
compact kindle
Where was this hint?
crisp narwhal
Problem is 'Cool' is a completely subjective term.
native yacht
@marble hare
last minnow
exactly, i might think something is cool but the person next to me might think its hot trash
it gets us nowhere
marble hare
<@853471912486764544>
yo
crisp narwhal
.......unless
native yacht
what Sniper??
delicate bridge
Instead of changing it he just needs to tell us atp
delicate bridge
aurora surfing
Worth a shot atp
naive oxide
might try it when it’s night
delicate bridge
Should do it and let us know
last minnow
according to jao it can be done at any time of day
crisp narwhal
What if he meant Cool as in the literal temperature? Like the snowy peaks?
delicate bridge
Maybe cloudsurfing above the mtns
last minnow
What if he meant Cool as in the literal temperature? Like the snowy peaks?
that was my thought
delicate bridge
Or going reaaaallly high
last minnow
was just typing that
crisp narwhal
Maybe
compact kindle
peaks is a no go, I spend most of my time there, and someone hit the sky box surfing clouds and looking
delicate bridge
Music playing there lets you know how high up you are from ghe ground
compact kindle
Someone tried to go to the moon once too
delicate bridge
Jao need sto give us a real hint
delicate bridge
Not just some random words
compact kindle
but they went across the map no?
Hit skybox or a wall, or both XD
last minnow
they need to just go up and not across
final cargoBOT
somni0946 has been warned
last minnow
has anyone done that?
delicate bridge
Breh
last minnow
rip
compact kindle
Music is hit or miss for me TwT Sometimes works sometimes doesnt and when it does work it randomly cuts out
delicate bridge
Short version of what i said is youd ask if its diff and hed go “maybe, maybe not”
last minnow
yea jao needs to give us an actual hint that can actually be lined up with things ingame
compact kindle
has anyone done that?
Going straight up yes, hit the skybox thats directly up
delicate bridge
Lets do it again
compact kindle
delicate bridge
I swear we desperate atp
last minnow
and stay at that line
delicate bridge
XD
last minnow
FR
compact kindle
Last time I hit a barrier it took ALL MY STAM
static mesa
i did the same thing like 6 times and nothing
delicate bridge
I JUST WANT AN ELDER SS 
static mesa
JAO HELPP
delicate bridge
Same (-;
compact kindle
delicate bridge
We need to boycott eldering
compact kindle
Go on strike
compact kindle
Lmao
last minnow
all #general-chat needs to be is a croud of just "give us a better hint" or something
native yacht
alright im at snow mountain. 2 calling does do nothing
delicate bridge
XD wed get striked for spam
native yacht
nor does 1 calling
native yacht
lemm check
delicate bridge
Crystal flashbacks
native yacht
im now on child support
last minnow
nothing works, i tried 1 calling and 1 calling 3 times
native yacht
miss opportunity to go to "the throat of the world" and look for the "elder" constellation and 2 call it
last minnow
we have spent multple hours on this
delicate bridge
It covers a little island near the border
gilded jewel
isn't it the map edge indicator
last minnow
^
delicate bridge
Only spot ive seen it though
So strange to me lol, you can walk on the island in it
last minnow
but i havent seen the other borders with it
delicate bridge
Want coords to justcheck? Its probs useless tho
delicate bridge
800n 600w
naive oxide
just hit a blue wall myself lol
delicate bridge
Where at
last minnow
where do yall find blue walls, i have found 0
delicate bridge
This is the only one ive found
Iirc border was green over in patreon tho
- you can just ignore this one and walk thru
naive oxide
remember where FS elder shrooms were? basically the forest behind it
i can get cords once i feed my dragon
delicate bridge
Give us ss of what it looks like too
We are fr investing walls, how far we have fallen
naive oxide
the jumpscare i had when i hit this wall
vale flicker
the blue smoke isnt on the wall probably so you have time to turn around if flying
delicate bridge
The smokewall i showed is far from the real border
Its a like island surrounded by water
naive oxide
devs: “sir they are now ramming themselves into the invisible map borders for answers”
naive oxide
skill issue
last minnow
i am confused bc i already hit one wall, so now i have brain dmg
delicate bridge
XD fair ent
naive oxide
off topic but oh my god mushrooms are op
was at 40 something hunger and ate two and down to like 5%
naive oxide
another wall
stop ramming into the walls
naive oxide
but it’s FUN
last minnow
How are yall not there yet
ok whats in line with it😭
delicate bridge
Just look for the big ol goant pool of water
last minnow
the way i use coords apparently is taking me right into walls
delicate bridge
Ontop of like a hill
I didnt find smthn but i figured im just stupid
So im getting reinforcements/hj
last minnow
LOL
naive oxide
wait what were the coords again
delicate bridge
Ya
naive oxide
these gd WALLS
last minnow
all im going to are walls
delicate bridge
Old ss for proof
Im in bed so im not getting on dod rn
My bf would cut me in half
last minnow
how is that possible
delicate bridge
Wdym
last minnow
we keep hitting walls
last minnow
is this like...beyond the wall?
delicate bridge
D:,
small flame
😦 sad no admin commands for elder growth 😦
naive oxide
hmm, interesting place
delicate bridge
Thats where the ancient yucky water is
last minnow
so
its past the wall
and for once this wall is actually blue
only once you hit it
last minnow
we all feel crazy
naive oxide
resting at br again the blood from the walls makes it hard to see lmaoo
naive oxide
i just don’t understand how there’s nothing obvious that stands out
last minnow
known bug
native yacht
before you get to that wall which is a t misty..you get this
pretty sure its for ASDs cause it only pops up when on the ground
last minnow
that happens by the lake, its a known bug
native yacht
alright well i got nothing
i've searched the entire map at this point
id imagine its ground level? something for ASDs to reach?
stray notch
i was at BR and flew to the top of the smaller snowy mountain (didn’t land), 1 c...
this is odd
native yacht
whats odd is me being at this for hours now and not evening close to nothing
stray notch
unless you could replicate it, but i cant get it to work
what if its not a single, but certain activtys that u can do, and u can perform only 1 of them every tick (gotta be a passive tick in between them)
native yacht
"you must take the first step"
you have to do something
absolutly nothing stood out today. only the ancient water but nothing happens
stray notch
"you must take the first step"
he maybe meant that if ur agile mutated and have flight eldering course or wtv
doing the first thing would let u be like "OH, i have to do this kind of things to elder!" and then u get to do it faster and easier
also cooler
native yacht
i see what you're saying
stray notch
absolutly nothing stood out today. only the ancient water but nothing happens
lol thge ancient water at hideaway?
stray notch
oh nice another nerd like me lmao
stray notch
its called hideaway lol
yes?
stray notch
i spent 16 yesterday lol... slept on pc
native yacht
thx for reminding me i have no liife xD
stray notch
we both dont bro we're both doing well, we have a big possiblity to be the first 2 finding out elder system lmao
naive oxide
i have my entire server looking rn
stray notch
i have my entire server looking rn
OH YEAH SPIDER ANOTHER IMPORTANT QUESTION
what is ur mutation points?!?!?!
stray notch
Music is hit or miss for me TwT Sometimes works sometimes doesnt and when it doe...
if the in-game music WAS NOT important... it would have got mute option.
last minnow
you can mute it
naive oxide
still have the 3/3
dry mauve
the only thing thats out of the norm is the ancient water
ancient water?
native yacht
delicate bridge
It doesnt look nearly as filthy for me
native yacht
same just gave it a bug
delicate bridge
I sacrifice a dragon to it, my children, etc 
dry mauve
i doubt its a location based thing though maybe... but like i doubt it since well, its not campable whats dragon like though
native yacht
bro ive searched everywhere
stray notch
resting at br again the blood from the walls makes it hard to see lmaoo
switch to RPG mode not survival + RPG
i use that bc blood sucks
naive oxide
ahh okay thanks
stray notch
ahh okay thanks
yw
but again spider what was ur mutation?!?!?!
thats important
please say its agile
naive oxide
social
native yacht
hows mutation important to eldering?
stray notch
daaamn
native yacht
i have full agile
naive oxide
i’m on a pve server and we do a looot of nesting 24/7 lol
keen spire
Maybe all species should use their element on him at the same time? Fier, acid and SS spit. Or mb Bio spit could active this
stray notch
Maybe all species should use their element on him at the same time? Fier, acid a...
i tried EVERYTHING on it as SS
nothing.
cloak, charge, plast, charging cloak, call, even bonk that g**amn water
naive oxide
i’m at a loss
stray notch
WE NEED 1.0.1 QUICK I CANT HANDLE THIS CURRENT SYSTEM
keen spire
i tried EVERYTHING on it as SS
Yes as SS only. I told about every class! And all together
native yacht
0% growth all day
stray notch
Yes as SS only. I told about every class! And all together
meh, uncambable it should be
naive otter
Save me xD Jk! MORE
naive oxide
i'm already getting so burnt out searching
last minnow
im burnt out, its the middle of the night too
naive oxide
we need an actual useful hint
keen spire
It's just.. Bio can't elderind, and he only can use spit to make us glowing. So maybe his existence has a much greater meaning?
dry mauve
It's just.. Bio can't elderind, and he only can use spit to make us glowing. So ...
No all small dragons wont be able to elder
native yacht
requiring another player/dragon to elder?
dry mauve
no point so mimi and zygo also wont elder
dry mauve
requiring another player/dragon to elder?
Has to be able to be done solo
stray notch
LMAO
keen spire
No all small dragons wont be able to elder
I know. I telling about maybe they could help big dragons to eldering. May we need use Bio's spit for that, or smthing like this
stray notch
hey i have an idea
ima get full stam second wind on ighest mnt
and fly into the aurora
stray notch
may the power of ancients take me to the shadow scales lands
native yacht
aurora?
dry mauve
I know. I telling about maybe they could help big dragons to eldering. May we ne...
Nope, that wont ever be a thing as they are just cosmetic since well they are KS exclusives
naive oxide
didn’t they say it could be done anytime of day?
stray notch
didn’t they say it could be done anytime of day?
who knows
native yacht
didnt they say it could be done anytime of the day?
dry mauve
didnt they say it could be done anytime of the day?
Yeah
Has anyone tried walking around as a FS with heat vison on in caves a through forests and stuff?
native yacht
not really but i dont see the point?
dry mauve
In the comic it shows the FS able to see things other dragons cannot with the heat seeking.
stray notch
not really but i dont see the point?
LMAOO WHY DIDNT U TELL ME I CRASHED INTO THE SKYBOX
native yacht
i wasnt the one who said to fly into that xD
delicate bridge
LMAOO WHY DIDNT U TELL ME I CRASHED INTO THE SKYBOX
Activate Windows 🗿
stray notch
Activate Windows 🗿
broke
stray notch
i had an activated one, changed my motherboard and that happend
its been like 2 years, i never cared, a bit annoying when ppl see it or when it hides smth on screen but meh
dry mauve
Someone made an interactive map
keen spire
Lol. Its look like a simple pond for IR
stray notch
Theres this
i meant accurate about their location, like its not tilted somewhere
this one seems to be accurate
dry mauve
naive oxide
what’s the red and green symbolize on the first map?
dry mauve
Check this one out
delicate bridge
Tbh i dont rlly like the map you just sent, way too clustered but cool regardless <3
dry mauve
it shows all spawns for bugs and what not
stray notch
Tbh i dont rlly like the map you just sent, way too clustered but cool regardles...
tho accurate
okay so hear me out
naive oxide
welp, i’m ending my search for the night
stray notch
my theory is that eldering is something related to intrest points
naive oxide
good luck in the rest of your searches ^^
stray notch
https://www.worldanvil.com/w/day-of-dragons-semi-realism-xnocturnalis/map/abb7c4...
not accurate
AT ALL
delicate bridge
Iirc that ones missing caves
delicate bridge
AT ALL
? No thiers is accurate to an extent
Missing a few things but mostly there
stray notch
? No thiers is accurate to an *extent*
yeah, but i find the one more accurate tbh
dry mauve
Its not been filled in yet
we need to keep noct up to date on locations so they can fill in the blanks for us
stray notch
does anyone else find these mysterious?
native yacht
yea im done for the night
yea i saw those too and thought about it
there are some at a lake going towards river as well
stray notch
there are some at a lake going towards river as well
hmmm, ik that lake
stray notch
OR nesting here is what grants elder growth as social dragon
native yacht
i'm more than likely sure mutations dont play a part in it
stray notch
whats a prove
native yacht
most folks elder in pvp to have an edge..points into sav an agile
stray notch
all current caves, hmmm makes no sense
stray notch
most folks elder in pvp to have an edge..points into sav an agile
alright then if u wanna agile elder do another activity? thats my theory, every mutation has its own things
which is (for now untill we find a real prove one what they are)
social : neasting and anything around it
agile : movement and what connects to it
scavenger : killing/eating and what conects to it
native yacht
theory doesnt check out with the hints
stray notch
theory doesnt check out with the hints
lol no theory can be helpd by any of the hints