New Elder System

[languid spoke]

that it does, on that part

[fresh marsh]

theres also the fact that everyone has already nested every which way

[languid spoke]

but like, upstatting is a joke now lol

right

[hallow mountain]

Indeed

[fresh marsh]

i also think theres going to be a non-nesting way to raise your stats

[languid spoke]

i'm pretty chill with the issues of upstatting, but my friends are so over it. slay countless spawns to get the recessives you want, bonk, nest, get crap eggs. bonk, nest, get crap eggs, bonk, nest get ONE good egg

nest that ONE with another, rinse, repeat get nearly nowhere

[fresh marsh]

other than equipping pearls i mean

[regal kernel]

Hadn’t it always been that way

[hallow mountain]

Now it's even worse

[languid spoke]

it used to be easier

[fresh marsh]

starting with good recessive stats is just a headstart though, couldnt you nest them out through crits even with all Es

[hallow mountain]

Because bloodline doesn't go up by default, it's a chance

[languid spoke]

even after they changed it it was still easier than this

[regal kernel]

And it wasn’t supposed to be

[languid spoke]

no, it was never supposed to be easy at all

[hallow mountain]

Plus recessive stats are a pain

[languid spoke]

but what it is now feels near impossible with being able to see the recessives

it's fine tho lol, we'll still manage A's at some point 😂 i hope

but, i'm not sure it's tied to eldering, it may be but may be in a different way

[hallow mountain]

Literally randomly assembling dragons until the right combination came out

[fresh marsh]

you could have a false right combination though

[languid spoke]

i know the stats are a % for passing on and going up/down....but i can't math that math ya know

[fresh marsh]

high dominant but low reccessive

[hallow mountain]

Maybe in a way that speeds up the process, but it can't block it

You're supposed to be able to elder any adult dragon, regardless of stats

[languid spoke]

exactly

[regal kernel]

Not if what the maker of the game keeps saying

[languid spoke]

when did Jao say we can't elder any adult?

and where

[hallow mountain]

No clue at that point, but you can't expect a new player to figure it out easily

Imagine if it's a command-

[carmine belfry]

Nop lol

[fresh marsh]

just throwing out another idea, but it could be that if its stat based, it just cuts the time for eldering, and everyone else has to elder passively

[languid spoke]

that could be, certain higher stats receive more or higher ticks

[fresh marsh]

no one would truely be unable to elder

[languid spoke]

exactly

[hallow mountain]

This

[languid spoke]

and good luck testing it 😂

[fresh marsh]

i think we have already disproven it, just tossing out ideas

elder ticks have been very consistent regardless of stats

[hallow mountain]

Okay so an elder gets bigger

To get big you must eat a lot

Has anyone tried to stay well fed (below 5% food) for long?

[fresh marsh]

unless theres a break point, like it doesnt take effect until B or A

[hallow mountain]

Can't be camped, accessibile to all players

[regal kernel]

He’s said multiple times that they want the life expectancy you mean something and have more of a impact on the game some how

Like tons of times

[languid spoke]

that doesn't mean any dragon can't elder tho

[static mesa]

is this a glitched spot ?

[fresh marsh]

that also doesnt mean he wants it tied to elder, it could just raise like max health or something

[regal kernel]

But it doesn’t mean it does

[regal kernel]

That makes no sense

[mint tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/dawn-gif-23933434

[hallow mountain]

I thought that a mechanic that makes your dragon die to old age was going to be added? Not sure

[fresh marsh]

it was just something i tossed out, the point still stands

[hallow mountain]

So life expectancy can make it so your dragon doesn't decay as fast

[regal kernel]

Has anything been found on the map ?

[languid spoke]

we've found nothing

[regal kernel]

it’s gotta be the stats

[mint tulip]

https://tenor.com/view/we-aint-founbd-shit-talking-angry-gif-16340802

[languid spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/robert-downey-jr-tony-stark-gif-26471287

[regal kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/programming-crazy-hard-developer-cramming-gif-7866345

[last minnow]

that would suck if it was stats

[languid spoke]

it would make it expotentially harder

[mint tulip]

true

[regal kernel]

Are you gatekeeping

[hallow mountain]

You're supposed to elder so you can upstat, not upstat so you can elder

[regal kernel]

[languid spoke]

i'm as lost as everyone else 😂

[fresh marsh]

that could just be how it worked in legacy and not intended for the finished game

[regal kernel]

They could just complement each other

[languid spoke]

it may be related in the way @fresh marsh suggested tho

[upbeat igloo]

Surely it wouldn't be to do with the stats... Good luck to the solo players

[languid spoke]

higher stat in life expectancy increases elder tick % or frequency

[regal kernel]

Yeah that’s was a good idea

[hallow mountain]

Let's be logic, the game should be fun, not frustrating, if you have to upstat so you can elder, then it's frustrating

[languid spoke]

we just need to hit A or B in it and try to test it

[hallow mountain]

Especially by how hard it is now to upstat

[regal kernel]

It’s a grinding game

[fresh marsh]

i dont understand how that would be frustrating, elder to me seems like it should be the final goal

[last minnow]

fr tho why would that be the case? why should i have to upstat (plot twist i have 0 friends) isnt the whole point of elder so your offspring can get better stats

[tame crest]

The final goal to me is punching all of the worms and elementals.

[hallow mountain]

Ye, not block it, but speed it up

[tame crest]

Elder just makes that bit easier

[regal kernel]

It’s a social game

[hallow mountain]

This

[last minnow]

and stats in pve dont really serve a purpose

[mint tulip]

for now

till there is stuff to actually fight

[last minnow]

right

[hallow mountain]

Stats in pve are mostly a flex for now

[fresh marsh]

even pve will have ai to fight

[last minnow]

you 1 shot them at this time

it isnt hard

theres no challange

other then eldering LOL

[fresh marsh]

not the little bugs, but bigger things and sandworms

[upbeat igloo]

You can take down ai with standard stats. Like yeah, it's a little more challenging but it's still doable

[mint tulip]

cause the only ai we have is bugs for hatchies

and adults to horde

[fresh marsh]

you can take down current ai

[upbeat igloo]

Bro, I am waiting for the stronger ai to take down with me E's

[hallow mountain]

Bio has no attack so it can't kill something

Bio is the only dragon that can't elder

Maybe you have to kill an entity or a certain amount of entities?

[fresh marsh]

they said you would probably need behemoths to take down the hardest stuff they had planned at some point

[mint tulip]

bios can't elder?

[fresh marsh]

so stats will matter even in pve

[languid spoke]

bios are elder

they don't have an actual elder stage

but they get the 7 mutation points

[mint tulip]

oh dam

[hallow mountain]

Yup, you can only be adult

[hallow mountain]

This

[mint tulip]

i really wanna get nested some day as a bio

cause so cute uwu

[hallow mountain]

I love how this is just the new general chat, but it has a main topic

[last minnow]

fr

[languid spoke]

i like to think it's less toxic in here than gen chat 😂

[last minnow]

in here we have the more technical and creative side of the community

[languid spoke]

and it's more focused, out there it's just negativity and entitlement

[hallow mountain]

Facts

[hallow mountain]

Facts part two

[last minnow]

out there is just karens thinking they know every little thing about game development

if they did, they should tell us the secret to eldering fr

[hallow mountain]

And complaints about bugs and stuff

Like yes, bugs are a problem, but all games have problems when they release, that's what hot fixes are made for

[last minnow]

fr

but nooo, karen is too good for all of that

[regal kernel]

I just wanna be big and cool

[last minnow]

https://tenor.com/view/viva-la-dirt-league-vldl-gif-19768362

[stray notch]

yeah that means 1 thing and only one thing
going to redacted doesnt mean X point on them map, for example br, island etc
it could be X thing that is spread around all the map, X item or whatever
Thats why i feel sus with crystals, or caves

thats my bet on that part

[last minnow]

i just want elder so i can listen to music and admire their calls, elder calls are top tier

[stray notch]

dont u forget
pearls
mutations
elements
biome

[last minnow]

dont forget, alot of that isnt even ingame yet

[hallow mountain]

I stopped streaming DoD to my friends because "EEEEHHHHH that game looks like it's still in beta, map is empty you wasted your money"
THEN DON'T BUY THE GAME AAHH
I'm having fun with my dragon game and not here to tell you why you should play it

Istg people have zero patience and comprehension towards devs who work hard on the game, it makes me rage within seconds

[last minnow]

"it looks like its still in beta" i need to know what pc or mobile device they have

because fun fact, its in beta

[regal kernel]

My bf did the same but now he’s hooked

he plays without me

[hallow mountain]

Don't even own the game, they are watching my pixelated stream through discord, I have a RTX 4060 that I purchased JUST to run this game

[stray notch]

i love DoD
i just hate its PvP balance, and visuals (current visuals and performance, i dont mean what is meant)

[hallow mountain]

Yes the map needs tweak because it's kind of empty, but give it totem

[hallow mountain]

What I like is the dynamics between players, especially when it gets competitive

[stray notch]

on what settings do u run 60fps?!

[hallow mountain]

It has lots of potential

[stray notch]

it does, but its taking tooo late to do whats planned, and im getting annoyed by that

[hallow mountain]

Depends, some stuff are low or disabled (like bloom), others are on medium, some are on high

But I can play two games together and still be fine

I did try to put everything on max and it did 30fps I think

Was worth it but shadows are a bit broken

[bleak python]

putting this here for everyone

[hallow mountain]

That says all and nothing to me

[turbid prawn]

_> so whatever it is, it’s not gonna be easy no matter what

Doesn’t mean it’s in though

[regal kernel]

Same he’s really into stuff like that and when he realized how the community is he’s going crazy

[stray notch]

do you get to play with graphics like this on ~60FPS 🥺

[stray notch]

hold on i really like that? i mean if its cool i'd be okay to wait so long

[hallow mountain]

I'm in love with the server where I play, it has safe zones and pvp zones, so you can fight but also nest and grow in peace

[tame crest]

I trust nothing

[stray notch]

grow and dominate?

[last minnow]

we get this part, we are just lost figuring out what to do for it

[stray notch]

OH yeah u told me before lmao nvm.

[regal kernel]

Give server

[last minnow]

the ENTIRE community is lost

[hallow mountain]

Yes

[hallow mountain]

Grow and dominate

[regal kernel]

Yayyyy

[hallow mountain]

Shh all good

[stray notch]

i just wish it was more populated :\

[turbid prawn]

We are lost children. Give us a hint 😭

[hallow mountain]

30-40, depends on how much I move

I will give it a look tomorrow, destroy my current settings just to give you a proper answer

[stray notch]

hmm i got a ryzn 3800x thinking of a 3070

[hallow mountain]

I want a setting to get rid of grass, it prevents me from finding bugs easily

It drives me insane

[tame crest]

You can turn down foliage density to do that.

[hallow mountain]

I love redwoods because they don't have grass

[hallow mountain]

Still not enough 😭

[tame crest]

Oh I have like, no grass just shroobs when I turn it down all the way.

[hallow mountain]

I will do it tomorrow as soon as I wake up

[stray notch]

foliage density

make it POTATO

[hallow mountain]

Maybe they added even a lower setting with the new hotfix?

[stray notch]

yes POTATO lmao

[hallow mountain]

I WILL DO IT ASAP

Potato grass

[stray notch]

lower than LOW

[hallow mountain]

Potato supremacy

[tame crest]

Yeah, potato is "grass b gone"

[stray notch]

i love to make view distance epic or beawesome

[hallow mountain]

Oh yes give me that

[hallow mountain]

WAIT

[stray notch]

0_0

[hallow mountain]

Can you make your view distance "beawesome" and see no grass with potato foliage density?

[tame crest]

[hallow mountain]

Because id that's the case

[stray notch]

yeah?!

[hallow mountain]

I'm going to buy another alt just give money to the devs

[regal kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/oh-yeah-parks-and-recreation-chris-pratt-amused-woah-gif-7644619

[last minnow]

this right here is how all game devs should make their games

[hallow mountain]

I WILL BE ABLE TO SEE CRABS EVERYWHERE

[last minnow]

with fun easter eggs like this

[hallow mountain]

WOO

Okay sorry

Ahem

So back to elder

[rapid radish]

Ok, so Jao said figuring it out is difficult, but doing it is "cool". 😄 That is our hint, go xD

[hallow mountain]

Cool

[last minnow]

awesome! that helped us a ton now we know where to start

[hallow mountain]

Does it have to do with any mountain?

[regal kernel]

I can’t breathe I love this community

[rapid radish]

IKR

[regal kernel]

Has anyone seen the walled off cave ?

[rapid radish]

I hope he saw the pic I sent 😄

[rough root]

Darnit Jao you TEASE 😭

[regal kernel]

I tried flying into it a few times

[rough root]

Off to the mountains we go again.

[rapid radish]

Ok, what would Jao deem "cool" for a dragon to do? 😄

[hallow mountain]

My brain is empty rn

I can't think even if I wanted

[rapid radish]

Some kind of maneuvers on air and land?

[rough root]

Or it could simply be, that once we know how, it's difficult to elder cus by then we'll already be elder once we figure it out lel

[hallow mountain]

(╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻

[rough root]

I sob and scream.

[last minnow]

maybe go as far as you can above the clouds, then fall ALL the way down and barely catching yourself before you hit the ground

idk man

[somber shuttle]

I tried this today, nothing lol

[hallow mountain]

We do have music at a certain height

[regal kernel]

really ?

[hallow mountain]

Maybe it's a hint for something other than just a feature

[regal kernel]

Hmmmm

[rapid radish]

So what cool things drakes can do? 😄

[hallow mountain]

It's been like that since beta, ye

[hallow mountain]

Swim

[regal kernel]

I have my music off

[hallow mountain]

Not faceplant and lose health

[regal kernel]

Tried it …

[hallow mountain]

Wdym you tried 😭

[last minnow]

run fast, pretend to fly, break their legs, and yea swim

[regal kernel]

I WAS LOSING MY MIND OKAY

[hallow mountain]

I AM TOO

[rapid radish]

So zoomies

[last minnow]

when were broken bones apart of the zoomies

[rapid radish]

Hey, I keep posting a rhino in a tutu, I'm completely sound of mind

[hallow mountain]

There is a pond with a floating (empty) log, anything to do with it?

[last minnow]

how would any of us know at this point😭

[hallow mountain]

Right

[regal kernel]

I tried flying to the planets at night and forgot there was a wall

[hallow mountain]

Walls are my worst enemy

[regal kernel]

SAMMEEE

[hallow mountain]

Especially when I can't see them

[last minnow]

i did a 5 hour search total for anything and found nothing of interest

[hallow mountain]

MY MOTHER MADE ME FUNCTIONING EYES, PLEASE ADD VISIBLE BORDER SO I CAN SEE THEM

[last minnow]

im legally blind

[regal kernel]

I did a 4 day ground and fly around that map

nothing

[hallow mountain]

Bro thinks and the keyboard types for him

[last minnow]

LOL

[turbid yoke]

It’s difficult but if it’s Dark souls level imma scream

[last minnow]

this map might as well be empty

[hallow mountain]

It's not dark souls, the level here is what teacher told you to study vs what is in the test

[turbid yoke]

😂😂

[turbid yoke]

And I was bad at maths 😂😂

[hallow mountain]

My guy, I had bad marks in anything involved math, to the point that I got rejected for having bad marks in Physics, Chemistry and Math, I know the pain and can't agree more

[rapid radish]

I love math, except calculus xD

[turbid yoke]

Are we as bad as maths as we are for eldering ? 😂😂

[hallow mountain]

If eldering requires math, then yes

[last minnow]

man i already failed

[regal kernel]

I don’t even know how to read man

[hallow mountain]

Why do I feel like Jao doesn't want to give us hints because it's something stupidly obvious and a hint would uncover everything?

[rapid radish]

Can we do a barrel roll with the dragons? 😄

[hallow mountain]

No, but I wish

[rapid radish]

Darn

[somber shuttle]

No flight maneuvers like that yet. Im pretty sure theyre considering it

[mint tulip]

can you do a barrel troll?

[tame crest]

I used to play a (rubbish) PS2 game that allowed you to do aileron rolls and loops while mounted on flying creatures. I'd love that kinda stuff here.

[regal kernel]

Have we tried nesting with different species

[hallow mountain]

I can crash so hard that I do a barrel roll at the cost of 97% of my health

[regal kernel]

[hallow mountain]

This is inbreeding on another level

[rapid radish]

I know someone tried something like this, but fly until you have no stam left and when you go down do any maneuvers you can?

[hallow mountain]

Let's do it

[regal kernel]

I mean

[hallow mountain]

I wonder if it's about flying from a corner to the other with one stamina bar

[mint tulip]

my grand brother father husband

[regal kernel]

[rapid radish]

I'm trying to think what would count as "cool" in the mind of Jao xD

[weak sequoia]

anyideas so far?

[mint tulip]

dragons and cars?

[weak sequoia]

did we get any hints?

[rapid radish]

Maneuvers

[turbid yoke]

What could be cool but difficult

[hallow mountain]

Watching the playerbase going insane and spend their money on his game instead of therapy

[rapid radish]

Difficult to figure out and cool do to

[worthy python]

The only thing apparently is that a clan dose know how to elder, as on the 4th day they had 28 percent

[turbid yoke]

And to say that I do both is hard

[regal kernel]

Maybe it’s pvp

[rapid radish]

What species and is it official server?

[hallow mountain]

If it's kills, my friend had 7 kills and 3% elder, passive

[turbid yoke]

Nah it should be doable on the PvE servers as well

[worthy python]

official, idk species

[worthy python]

PvE also would need a way to elder

[rapid radish]

Well I don't believe any claims without proof anymore stares at the Eon theories

[weak sequoia]

has anyone flown thru the aurora?

[rapid radish]

You can't

[weak sequoia]

does the aurora even exist?

[hallow mountain]

Can you reach that?!

[rapid radish]

There's a wall xD

[weak sequoia]

theres a wall?

[rapid radish]

Sky wall yes

[regal kernel]

Damn

[last minnow]

which is why im actually searching for the exact location of a screenshot containing that, as all the locations said they didnt even lead my near that area

[hallow mountain]

The fact that you know-

[rapid radish]

Someone tried and almost died xD

[worthy python]

ive gotten a small hint, its edible : )

[hallow mountain]

Pfffft

[regal kernel]

Thatssss cooool

[hallow mountain]

EAT BUGS YOOO

[weak sequoia]

what if its in a certain part just below the skybox? hard to do, right?

[hallow mountain]

Or do drugs (shrooms)

[last minnow]

worst part is, ive seen that area on accident before, i have forgotten where it is

[regal kernel]

WE ARE IN A BOX !?

[rapid radish]

Poor Zal did the bug thing for an hour! XD

[regal kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/panicking-gif-22262539

[weak sequoia]

from who

[hallow mountain]

My life is a lie

[last minnow]

this was an old theroy, that you need to eat the shrooms in order to see something and get to a certain percentage

[regal kernel]

Who am I

[worthy python]

clan that had the prog

thats all i know

[rapid radish]

Or a dome, not sure 😄

[worthy python]

[hallow mountain]

We live in a simulation

Listen peeps, y'all are great to talk with, but it's 1am and I'm tired, I will let you know if I have any weird dreams about eldering

[regal kernel]

🫡🫡

[deep gyro]

I already dreamt about eldering by eating golden crabs but you could see they spawned under the map and shot up to be able to be killed :D

[last minnow]

oh so lets stalk every single player you see flying or on the outside of where everyone is, gg ez /j dont stalk people thats creepy

[last minnow]

dude i had a dream about it being that you had to eat a plant in order to elder

and it was also gold LOL

[hallow mountain]

Also, we should ask jao to keep the system like this until we do a poll and the majority of people vote to give up

[weak sequoia]

Moon?

[regal kernel]

Cliff diving ?

[worthy python]

Ive gotten to many dreams about eldering and dod 😭

[weak sequoia]

or ghoul?

[worthy python]

idk

it was someone that knew the clan then told us lmao

[hallow mountain]

I used to have nightmares where my elder died on legacy

[worthy python]

the night i lost my elder i cried myself to sleep sksks

[deep gyro]

Also when I logged in earlier, I saw an orange circle above the ui in the bottom right corner? Then disappeared- anyone know what it means?

[tame crest]

Invulnerability

[last minnow]

^

[deep gyro]

Ah ty

[regal kernel]

I lost a elder to afk once …

a 14++

[last minnow]

i would have as well

[regal kernel]

I cried …

[last minnow]

god i was so paranoid about loosing my 8++ ss, it was my 3rd ever ss and i love her sm

[tame crest]

I remember someone in the server I play on losing their 16++

[rapid radish]

To the peeps that enter the chat for the first time; check pins 😄

[hallow mountain]

HOW TF DID THEY EVEN GET 16++

[worthy python]

PvE

[hallow mountain]

And why am I still awake

[tame crest]

Yeah PVE grindset lol

[hallow mountain]

Pve is

Pve.

[worthy python]

I had a 18a Starlight ss her name was Hugo and she was perfect

until she died by a asd

[last minnow]

ok if i wasnt a new player and had my stats all into nesting on my 8++ i prob could have had some awesome offspring

[naive otter]

Am i missing anything to what we currently know for hints or possible tips we've been given so far?

[last minnow]

think thats all of it

[worthy python]

u can eat it

watever it is u eat it

[last minnow]

and how do we know that

[worthy python]

im pretty sure

[last minnow]

who said it

who confirmed it

[naive otter]

i've just jotted down all the hints we've been given so far. not any of the theories we've came across

[turbid yoke]

what if its grab

[last minnow]

wheres proof

[worthy python]

i can ee ur point

[turbid yoke]

like u need to carry something somewhere

[worthy python]

see*

[naive otter]

Added as a possible Note

[last minnow]

im interrogating rn

[worthy python]

When im looking around, im keeping it in mind though

[turbid yoke]

who is the good cop and who is the bad one ?

lime u get the bad cop

im the good one

[last minnow]

whoever this "clan" is they are bad, they are gatekeeping that they supposedly have found the way to elder

then claimed its something you eat

when thats not part of the eldering anymore

[regal kernel]

REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED

https://tenor.com/view/family-guy-stewie-griffin-gone-crazy-insane-letter-l-gif-17135412

[last minnow]

helpful, thanks for your time

[turbid yoke]

maybe they're just sending all the trolls here to get us lost

because for some gatekeeping is fun

[last minnow]

they are wasting their time bc we have been lost for the past week

[worthy python]

Elder mushrooms arnt part of it, dosent mean you dont have to eat is anymore

[turbid yoke]

though i don't see the point of it

[worthy python]

Plus there might be other ways as well (once quests come through it will also probably help)

[last minnow]

still not buying it without viable proof

gatekeepers are the worst by far, i dont trust them

[worthy python]

I mean trying to get all elders until others have found out would be a great way of getting an advantage (pvp)

[last minnow]

still gatekeeping

they remind me of those who claimed elder mushies

dont like em

[worthy python]

true true

[fresh marsh]

if i have to investigate bugs again...

have we exhausted everything with the normal mushrooms? there seems to be a lot of them around certain water sources

[last minnow]

i wouldnt waste time on some random person saying its something you eat with no photo of what it is

[fresh marsh]

ive put tons of time into theories with less

[deep gyro]

I did see a spot near river that had a mushroom circle, but dunno if it would amount to anything interesting

[fresh marsh]

i just try everything that pops up

even if i know it wont work, just to rule it out

[last minnow]

i saw that as well, i was there at some point and i had a thought that if you ate them all in that location maybe you could see something

[tame crest]

I've been to that fairy ring and ate them all, all that happened was I ended up fuzzy

[last minnow]

as that was a theroy before

[mellow dawn]

I’m think it’s under the map like just guys it’s in the game ‘snicker’🙃😀

[delicate bridge]

i got a random elder tick when i crashed into dirt but im thinking its my 12 hour one lmao, just funnily timed

[last minnow]

crashing into dirt i dont think is concidered as "cool"

[delicate bridge]

XD yeah but its just funny so figured id mention it

[fresh marsh]

yeah there was someone that got theirs when they were above the clouds, and even though i knew it was their passive tick i still spent a bit of time on my asd on the peaks that are above the clouds

ill go investigate mushrooms as much as my sanity will allow

[fading trench]

where?

what fairy ring?

[tame crest]

It was just a rough circle of like, 5 mushrooms somewhere near the river.

[last minnow]

im gonna go back to there bc ik where thats at

theres a lot more around there

[fading trench]

can u share coords and a pic?

[tame crest]

I'm literally at the corners of the map rn otherwise I would

[deep gyro]

I don’t have coords, but from the highest point of the river, it’s on the opposite side of that big rock and the pond

[last minnow]

yea im getting on rn, ill head there

[prisma mirage]

So quests are in the game? it's just deactivated?

[deep gyro]

Smell for mushrooms, should lead ya right to it

[prisma mirage]

Maybe could be why we can't find it? XD idk I'm just out of options at this point

It's disabled for all servers

[mellow dawn]

;/

[prisma mirage]

Maybe just sending us in a wild goose chase only for him to activate it next patch

[languid spoke]

loots and questing are in a later update when the fantasy server option comes out

[fresh marsh]

is fantasy its own seperate thing? or will there be like, dve with fantasy turned on?

[languid spoke]

not sure? i would need to look back

[fresh marsh]

i hope the dve server i play on gets it

[last minnow]

fantasy is completely different with a different map, dragons cant transfer to it

[languid spoke]

#announcements message

there we go

[regal kernel]

The more I look at this I feel like it’s fake …

[languid spoke]

i'm happy for you? that dragon is on a friend's server lmfao

[mellow dawn]

So is the map going to get bigger or how are they going to do things like the desert biome and snow and stuff?

[languid spoke]

we were working on upstatting

we will have a mega map later yes

but we should be able to elder now pre-mega map

[vestal rose]

i think elder ticks DO increase as you get more

that, or doing some task makes the ticks higher

[languid spoke]

is it a private server

[somber shuttle]

How often is it going up for you?

Normal tic time?

[vestal rose]

nvm yall, im silly

[languid spoke]

from those deleted numbers i bet 2x growth

[vestal rose]

forgot that this specifc server upped growth >_>

[languid spoke]

yeap lol

[vestal rose]

:,) i was hopeful for a minute

[languid spoke]

you can still use the numbers, just have to know that it's the standard tick doubled

that's all

[vestal rose]

mhmm

[turbid prawn]

I’m still leaning on in the game but not activated

[languid spoke]

many have theorized that, myself included early on

[vestal rose]

yeah, i saw the doc and some of those theories

[languid spoke]

it was so much

[vestal rose]

and 1.5 im pretty sure

[languid spoke]

from what we've been told it is active in the game currently

we've just yet to figure it out

doing it is "cool" but it's difficult to figure out.......

[fresh marsh]

hey, we know people have found different sized bugs, do we know if they spawn in at different sizes? or do they grow over time

[short pine]

I know in Legacy they could rarely be found in different sizes, It was one of the old Mela unlock theories

[rough root]

Added a few things here and there from today. Alas, nothing sound still. I swear Rhino is such a tease

[fresh marsh]

wait, i thought i saw someone say they got a mutation point when they hit 25% elder

[minor hinge]

this got be a gilch

[languid spoke]

that's how the bottom of the water looks in night vision

all the rocks show up like that

[minor hinge]

ok i was just me

[languid spoke]

it's pretty tho, the way they show up

[minor hinge]

i was tink i found somethig

[fresh marsh]

oh it wasnt 25, it was 27, i remembered wrong

[minor hinge]

it 27

i got my 1 elder tick

now i just runing around no chage yet

but all point are in fert

[rapid radish]

Sooo has @fresh marsh gone mad with the hint of "eating things", that came from a...questionalble source? 😁

[turbid prawn]

100% pretty sure they are plotting world domination with the bugs to overthrow dragonkind

[rapid radish]

Oh absolutely 😄

We had Baby Wars, get ready to Bug Wars!

[stray hawk]

lmao eat your own kin

[fresh marsh]

https://tenor.com/view/send-help-help-help-me-help-me-im-poor-bad-situation-gif-15097358

[vestal rose]

yep, no mushrooms so it can't be after 2 shrooms anymore

[fresh marsh]

they got it after hitting 27%, i went back and found the post

i was asking cause i didnt get one at 25%

[rapid radish]

Which dragon?

[fresh marsh]

asd

[tame crest]

I got mine next tick since I was at 25%

[rapid radish]

Bc there are hidden decimals (that I'm trying to figure out) and you might be like 24.9% and that is under the required amount, but it rounds up to 25

I need a lot more info on asd tho

[plucky cosmos]

new theory, what if the hint really was simple. and "cool" meant something to do with the snowy areas we have?

[timber laurel]

If its anything like legacy passive ticks, 2 smalls 1 big (or vice versa, cant remember)

it'd go like 1%, 1%, 2% (for FS)

Rinse repeat

[fresh marsh]

we know how they work, iso is just trying to get the exact amount

[minor hinge]

i just when for 27.1% to 29.2%

on asd

[timber laurel]

should be 2, 2, 3?

i dont know the new ASD elder tick size though

[fresh marsh]

they are all the same amount, theres just a decimal point we cant see

[timber laurel]

ah, sorry

cant help then ;;

[fresh marsh]

thats the number they are trying to get

[stray hawk]

On IR I went from 5.5 to 7.3% with passive tick

[regal kernel]

How do you unlock the mela skin I forgot

[stray hawk]

So minuscule

[minor hinge]

Mela is unlock by grow icon

[fresh marsh]

you get nested in as iconic, and grow to adult without logging off

[regal kernel]

You have to be nested ?

[fresh marsh]

yeah

[regal kernel]

I thought so thank you

[fresh marsh]

its easiest to do on bio, cause they grow so quick

[plucky cosmos]

before i fly all the way there, has anyone eaten a bug at the top of the tallest mountain?

nothing happened, sigh

[minor hinge]

is this elder tick 27.1% to 29.2%

[plucky cosmos]

on asd, yeah, sounds about right

[minor hinge]

ok thank

[rapid radish]

Didn't know that, thanks! ^^

[rapid radish]

2x growth on the server you are on

[stray hawk]

Yea I know, it’s my sever 😂

Or well, not just mine but yknow

[rapid radish]

Many ppl don't know it affects also the elder growth amount 🙂

[stray hawk]

It’s good to know that it does, I wouldve expected it to not effect that

[rapid radish]

So IR is about 0.9% per tick ^^

[rapid radish]

Many ppl just come here all excited that they got more than normal and then we need to shoot their dreams down 😅

[stray hawk]

😂 sad for them

[acoustic holly]

What if it’s something “cool” like “do a barrel roll”?

[rapid radish]

Thought that too, but you cannot do maneuvers

[stray hawk]

If it is indeed PvP related, has anyone attempted to PvP king of the hill style on the highest peak?

[rapid radish]

It cannot be pvp related, bc pve has to be able to do that too 🙂

[somber shuttle]

^

[stray hawk]

Pve still has PvP, you just have to manually enable it

[rapid radish]

Yeah, but that takes the point out of pve, if you are forced to pvp for anyway

[stray hawk]

True

[plucky cosmos]

have we tried not doing anything at points of interest? letting the idle animations play out instead of sitting/resting/sleeping?

[hollow quarry]

its honestly just the passive ticks. At this point, they're just saying the elder system is there, but in reality, its just the passive ticks.

the 1.0 update has been out for over a week, I would assume SOMEONE woulda found out by now how to elder. We also havent been given hints (If there has been, It was not made known)

[dense current]

p sure we had to be flat out told how to unlock mela. wouldn't surprise me if we have to be told flat out how to elder too

[plucky cosmos]

alright, lets consider the difficulty of trying to discover mela

[hollow quarry]

Im still not sure how to get mela, but I got it

and I did it without even trying

[plucky cosmos]

did it require being nested in, or could you be a fresh spawn?

[hollow quarry]

i think its either tbh, cause I got mela but i never got nested in. Nor did I grow it in one sitting, so its confusing

unless I did and i dont remember

[plucky cosmos]

did you kickstart?

[hollow quarry]

nop

[plucky cosmos]

huh

[last minnow]

i got mela completely randomly, i never grew an iconic to adult

[fresh marsh]

you sure you didnt get nested as a bio?

[last minnow]

that i got nested as for iconic but i logged

for several hours

[fresh marsh]

might not have to do it in one sitting

[hollow quarry]

i did get nested as a bio, but I had mela before i got the bio

[fresh marsh]

i was just told you did

[plucky cosmos]

if just growing any dragon to adult as iconic gets it, without being one sitting, that makes it far simpler

[last minnow]

fr

[plucky cosmos]

you'd eventually get it just by playing

[hollow quarry]

yea

[fresh marsh]

i can test it on a random server

[hollow quarry]

which makes me wonder how no one figured out how to get more elder ticks than the passive ones you get every 12 hours

cause i know my ASD is at like 16% mainly off passive ticks.

[plucky cosmos]

Zal, check if you have access to mela first before spawning

i think i might have access to mela by being a KSer, but i need to check a fresh server for that

[fresh marsh]

dont have it, thanks i wouldnt have thought to check first lol

[plucky cosmos]

meanwhile i can spawn with it on a fresh server

and desync. oh well, wasn't gonna stay anyway

so, from a base player, simply growing your first dragon shouyld give you access to mela skin once you get to adult

well, get at least one dragon to adult

[fresh marsh]

im pretty sure you have to be nested as iconic

but ill know for sure when this bio hits adult

[rapid radish]

There was a bug with the mela unlock

[acoustic holly]

Might glitched my game but has anyone else’s bile meter turned to an aurora?

[turbid prawn]

You do :3

[rapid radish]

So it let spawned dragons to unlock mela

[turbid prawn]

Ks automatically get mela skin without having to do the grow an iconic to adult without logging

But it do be buggy and not every time will it unlock

Some my friends got the mela by getting nested in others got it from a spawn

Do yall know if each [REDACTED] is actually 1 word or could it be possibly be more?

[rapid radish]

I don't think it's an actual hint, bc Jao says it differently in different times 🤷‍♀️

[mint tulip]

28 hrs till they change what it will be maybe

[fresh marsh]

that might be delayed

[mint tulip]

who knows

all I know is no solid hint thus no real leads on how one elders

[fresh marsh]

i meant the patch

[mint tulip]

i mean maybe I could see them do a partial?

[mellow dawn]

I just want skins to be fixed at this point

[turbid prawn]

Gimme mah leum bio so I can be a proper scout 😭

[fresh marsh]

i grew a spawned bio to adult in one sitting and didnt get mela

[summer merlin]

Ooof :(

[somber shuttle]

You have to be nested as an iconic and grow it to adult

[acoustic holly]

I don’t have much to add right now but somehow my second account received more elder tics than my main despite not utilizing it as much. My main has 10%, while my alt has 20%.

[plucky cosmos]

details?

also, are you playing on a x2 grow server?

[acoustic holly]

I only use my alt to monitor chats, sometimes near in folks. It is a x2 server but I use my main way more than my alt.

[somber shuttle]

What are their differences in stats/ bl?

[plucky cosmos]

what dragon? asd has a much faster grow rate than IR for example

[acoustic holly]

SS for both. Let me pull the stats. I have them saved for one of my servers so I can share both.

[somber shuttle]

And mutation points?

[acoustic holly]

Both have them sitting in social

Wrong one hang on.

That d quality one has the higher elder tic

[fresh marsh]

people were unsure so i tested to prove it

[somber shuttle]

Ah i see, mb I came in late

[somber shuttle]

Your alt is the one that youre on more for chatting and hanging out?

[acoustic holly]

No it just sits there for nests and running admin tasks.

[plucky cosmos]

maybe just has more passive ticks since its online more often?

[acoustic holly]

I use my main a lot more. I usually sit on IR eggs and such on the alt.

[plucky cosmos]

as an SS?

[acoustic holly]

Main is more SS, alt is more IR but if someone requests Mela I pop back to alt.

[plucky cosmos]

ok im confused, SS and IR are dragon types to me, ShadowScale and Inferno Ravager, am i missing something?

[acoustic holly]

Correct. My alt is not often on SS so the fact that it had a higher tic than my main is weird.

[plucky cosmos]

OH, right, derp, forgot it was a whole account

[fresh marsh]

ss gets more % per tick

[plucky cosmos]

but the alt has more, while played less than main SS

thats what im getting

whats the difference? (rhetorical)

[somber shuttle]

Were comnparing both of their SS on the main and alt accounts, but the less played SS has more tics. (Explaining for those that may be confused)

Is there a specific area youre hanging out?

[acoustic holly]

BR usually for both.

[fresh marsh]

oh i get it now

[acoustic holly]

Main tends to explore more, alt usually just nests.

[plucky cosmos]

are you usually by more people on the alt?

points against "soloability" but whatever

[acoustic holly]

Sitting there? Yes. It’s usually higher social point (maybe social points gaining the point?)

[plucky cosmos]

have you been tracking passive tick progress?

[acoustic holly]

No. I usually ignore my alt altogether unless I need something

[plucky cosmos]

are both of your accounts admin on the server?

[acoustic holly]

Yes

[plucky cosmos]

darn, ok

im running out of differences to think of

[acoustic holly]

No worries that would’ve been my thought too

[somber shuttle]

And are they the same age? Or was your main nested in after your alt

[fresh marsh]

whats the difference between the two?

[plucky cosmos]

the D rank looks fresh, no parents recorded

[acoustic holly]

Same age/same day

Glitch

[somber shuttle]

wtfffff

[plucky cosmos]

oh nvm then

[acoustic holly]

Keeps glitching on our server.

[fresh marsh]

whats the difference in %

[acoustic holly]

10% difference.

[plucky cosmos]

im seeing a difference in life-expectancy ranking, does that stat do anything?

[bleak python]

It’s health unless endurance is health..

[somber shuttle]

That was my thought, but a lot of people have higher stats and havent notices larger tics

[stray notch]

hello dragoners, did we find out the elder system?

[plucky cosmos]

endurance is probably stamina

and not yet

[bleak python]

But I’m pretty sure life expectancy is health

[acoustic holly]

Not yet tam just something odd between a main and alt account in tic differences.

[plucky cosmos]

the hint given was

[stray notch]

hold on u got that too?

my friend got first tick 1.3 on SS
next tick became 2.5 not 2.6

[plucky cosmos]

difference in decimals

[bleak python]

He’s got a 10% difference

[acoustic holly]

My main I use more SS and it has 10% lower than my alt where I mostly use IR

[plucky cosmos]

he's got two accounts, both SS dragons, but with a 10% difference

all that ^^

[stray notch]

bro 1.3 tick means its 1.3-1.399
but 1.3 doesnt mean 1.2-1.3

there is a problem?

[acoustic holly]

Yeah. Just confusion. I explore with my main, nest with my main, socialize more with my main. Alt just sits or is not even logged in.

[stray notch]

okay whats the problem?

[plucky cosmos]

no problem, just trying to figure out what was done to get more progress on the less played acc

[stray notch]

wait wait wait

the 10% on his main

isnt passive ticks?!

[plucky cosmos]

hold your horses

the main has 10%

the alt, less played, has 20%

[acoustic holly]

Yes this.

[stray notch]

it depends on log ins, not play time, isnt it?

[plucky cosmos]

both SS, and the alt has a D rank BL vs teh main, which is C rank

that would just be passives though, but he has saaid the alt SS doesnt get logged in much

[stray notch]

so what this means

he got mysterious 20% growth?!

[plucky cosmos]

not quite, probably more like 10-15% somehow

depending on how much, but that's me speculating

[acoustic holly]

Some was passive but not 10% more passive.

[fresh marsh]

were you testing any admin commands or something on the alt?

[acoustic holly]

Only feeding or porting/summoning

[plucky cosmos]

have you tested feeding on the main?

[acoustic holly]

Number of players you pass by?

[plucky cosmos]

might be a critical mass of players to trigger increased growth

[acoustic holly]

Yeah I do it on both

[acoustic holly]

Which sounds ominous for PvP

And not “cool”

[stray notch]

hmmm, 5~ is the passive one and the whole rest is mysterious?!

[plucky cosmos]

true, hm

[acoustic holly]

I don’t know exact percent Tamim. I wasn’t paying attention. And it’s gonna be renested in the next few days anyways.

[bleak python]

Let’s ask the basic questions

• where
• when
• what
• how
• why
• what time

[plucky cosmos]

what pose do you usually idle in? sitting/resting/standing?

and that

[acoustic holly]

Either sitting or laying (not sleeping). And I only chime in chat when my main is otherwise occupied (sleeping to swap) and I don’t log into the alt every day.

[plucky cosmos]

also, remember this is all under a x2 grow server, so half all values for officials

[mint tulip]

where is the hint going to be when are they going to give it what does the hint actually tell us how do we make them give us a hint why aren't we raising more a stink and what amount of time will it take to make them tell us

[plucky cosmos]

we have a lead right now with Helix

two accounts, both nested SS, the lower rank one has an extra 10% progress, but is not logged in as much compared to main SS

[acoustic holly]

I just don’t know that it would work for solo players though. And being surrounded by people is “cool”? Not my definition of cool

[plucky cosmos]

passive ticks cant account for 20% when not logged in every day

[stray notch]

helix thats impossible
u just got boosted growth with no hints, no noticable activity. devs just made eldering seem unexisting

[plucky cosmos]

we're trying to figure out what happened to get the extra

[stray notch]

no my point isnt how

i meant why is there no hint

no sign

[acoustic holly]

Because “reasons” I’m sure

[bleak python]

You said you were at BR, so WHERE exactly were you?

When did you notice the differences? (additionally when is your passive tick supposed to hit)

What were you doing EXACTLY, like recount this to a T.

How were you posed, and behaving while on said alt account?

Why were you at BR? Why were you logged into the SS on your alt if you play the IR more?

What time of day is it when you’re normally on this account? Both IRL and in game.

[plucky cosmos]

ill start writing down notes

[mint tulip]

devs are trolls

?

[bleak python]

Sorry to ask so many questions but all of those could be a key factor in finding out how and why the passive ticks are higher

[stray notch]

also sorry helix but lots of ppl just say they got elder gowth and i saw NO ONES screen shot
can you please screen shot that growth or im personally gonna consider it a troll.

[bleak python]

He literally posted screenshots

Scroll up dude

[stray notch]

OH

[plucky cosmos]

those are just bloodline, to be fair, we need the main stat page

[acoustic holly]

~55s x0W
Just noticed tonight because I logged in

Usually sitting/laying and I don’t touch it unless my main is swapping and I need to talk to someone or I’m checking the panels

Sometimes people ask for mela eggs or just to be nested in or to upstat

We usually keep server daytime and I play 7:30pm mst for approx 2 hours (and depends on when I log into my alt.

[stray notch]

we were here yesterday its one of those little branch models for grass texure, its like some broken heat mapping

[acoustic holly]

Whoops that was meant to be a reply.oh well.

[bleak python]

Can you give us a screenshot of the progress bars for both accs and also a screenshot of where you usually are at

[bleak python]

It’s okay lol

[stray notch]

also helix, can u SS ur elder %?

on the 20% acc

[bleak python]

I just asked for that

[stray notch]

oops sorry was looking up in chat. im blind asf awake for 2 days

[acoustic holly]

I can grab the alt because I’m currently in the alt account. I’ll have to grab the main tomorrow. I moved form desktop to laptop only (sitting as IR rn). Let me swap for the percent.

[stray notch]

perfect

[bleak python]

Go to bed man LOL

[acoustic holly]

Yeah seriously sleep! I just sent some of our other admins to bed

Have to go to bed myself soon anyways (I’m in OT right now because of this lol)

[stray notch]

haha i cant sleep with those 3 eggs under me

PvP... tryna get some good stats
||pain||

[bleak python]

When is your passive tick supposed to hit? Like what time of day irl (please include timeline if you can ;-;)

[acoustic holly]

I log in 7:30pm mst (AZ if you must know) every day. I don’t always know when the tics happen on main let alone the alt.

[stray notch]

but helix ur tick on a 2x server is 2.6

are u sure u didnt get that passive?

[acoustic holly]

I get passives all the time. But don’t log into the alt that often and when I do not usually as SS

[plucky cosmos]

considering the main SS has less progress but is played more often, it doesn't account for why it has less progress

same age as well

[soft ether]

Its insane that nobody figured out the new system yet, makes me believe that it doesnt exist yet xD

[bleak python]

I recommend people checking out the spot he gave coordinates to

I would but I am sick at the moment and in bed

[tame badger]

Im currently sitting on those coords praying for something to happen

[acoustic holly]

It’s just BR and it’s not always the exact same spot.

Just about the same spot.

[plucky cosmos]

maybe we examine coords 0 0? the exact center of the map? and remember it needs to be accessible by asd too

unless there's multiple methods

[bleak python]

Well it might not be the coords

[acoustic holly]

If it’s something trolling like 420sx69e I will lose it

[plucky cosmos]

it's something

[bleak python]

Not to revisit the Jedi theory but — meditation / rest is one way to become a Jedi.

[acoustic holly]

Jedi are cool. Theory confirmed (jk)

[bleak python]

“Rest when you have nothing to do.”

[tame badger]

So are you like mostly afk on this account? if so we at least know it's not something you interact with

[bleak python]

Okay I’m sleep now — goodnight everyone best of luck while I rest trying to figure it out

[somber shuttle]

If sitting and doing nothing is how to elder im gonna be so upset XD We need something that will promote map exploration, but so far thats proven uneventful

[tame badger]

Goodnight!

[acoustic holly]

Yes mostly afk or tabbing into discord. I can’t fly well on it as I use my laptop for it.

[bleak python]

I’m gonna dream that you guys discover it so we can all elder when I wake up

[tame badger]

Ahhh oki I see

[plucky cosmos]

how much daamage have you taken as the alt? if 0 compared to anything else, maybe not taking damage for a time works

(But that's not "cool.")

[acoustic holly]

Not much damage as SS. As IR? All the damage.

[plucky cosmos]

need to find more points of comparison/difference between the two

Both admin, both admin fed, both SS, both nested, both same age

what else?

[tame badger]

Yeah sitting here afk isn't really cool either

ngl

Has this alt ever been anywhere besides BR?

[acoustic holly]

Alt tends to be more around others though, but again, doesn’t talk or usually interact “cool brooding type” maybe lol

Yeah I’ve take it around the map once but I usually use my main for map exploration.

[tame badger]

oh interesting

did you just take it exploring or something?

[somber shuttle]

Are you doing slays on the account with more progress? Maybe theyre logged as kills for the dragon? Or maybe it is the fact that you have points into social and its around others more than your main

[acoustic holly]

I was checking out crater late one night and slept at one of the craters then just ported it back to BR the next time I logged in.

[plucky cosmos]

thats one the first things i thought of, but that's against the being able to solo to elder

[acoustic holly]

Ah no that’s usually my main that slays.

Only thing I did was accidentally disband a clan on my alt.

[soft ether]

Hopefully its not intended to be like skyrmish of some kind, that you need to sit in the cave at br longer to get better ticks or somthing fml xDDD

[tame badger]

Yeah that also wouldn't be really cool

Such a vague hint

[soft ether]

I can't believe Im going to say this but

I want back the shrooms xD

This is killing me

[tame badger]

[plucky cosmos]

heresy, but i cant disagree Dx

[last minnow]

no pls no, that was hell, even the devs agreed LOL

[tame badger]

I hope it gets figured out before it's changed if it's supposed to be an interesting way to elder

[acoustic holly]

I don’t want to go back to guarding shrooms. It was an absolute nightmare.

[tame badger]

100% agree with this lol

[acoustic holly]

But what’s cool to me isn’t cool to someone else. Unless they just made a comment elsewhere saying “that would be cool”

and if that’s all we have to work with right now…gimme the shroomies

[plucky cosmos]

alright, time to scour the various interviews for devs saying something is cool

meaning not me, im not patient enough to listen to every single word on videos

[fresh marsh]

do you skip forward time to keep it day?

sorry just skimmed what i missed

[acoustic holly]

We do sometimes. I like watching the night at times but usually folks ask us to advance it.

[fresh marsh]

that might also skip time in the passive tick cooldown?

its a stretch, but possible

[acoustic holly]

I shouldn’t think so…I just logged off an empty server too so I could’ve probably spammed it

[plucky cosmos]

but that would speed up growth for all connected to the server, wouldnt it?

[gloomy sand]

Late to the conversation. But I believe that the game isn't built to recognize something as simple as being in an area (i.e. all the theories you have to fly from point A to point B). I feel like something has to happen that is tangible as an action, like eating, being damaged, drinking, putting down a nest, etc. Something the game can actually record in its internal logs, rather than you landing at a specific place. This would rule out any theory of just going from one spot to another being part of the process, unless you did an action at each location (not just like a 1 call, but something tangible in the logs). Thoughts?

[acoustic holly]

I can believe that. Or flying x distance. Because we know there is distance being measured (coords, nests freak out if too far)

[fresh marsh]

the game knows when youre a certain altitude above the ground, so its already doing something adjacent to that

[acoustic holly]

Traveling X distance on foot.

[gloomy sand]

but that's a simple code, to program the game to play music if you reach x altitude

[acoustic holly]

Spin in 50 circles (I definitely do that every day on every dragon)

[gloomy sand]

that becomes more complicated when there are parameters like whether or not youre an adult, a way more specific location than x altitude, etc

[fresh marsh]

it also knows when youre close enough to a nest to keep it protected

could use the same tech, but not visible to know if youre in an area

and you cant place a nest unless youre an adult

[gloomy sand]

hm, perhaps

[acoustic holly]

I thought it might’ve been something fun like going through all logs available or something but if it’s not tied to a location, that tossed it out the window.

[plucky cosmos]

and mates have to be within a certain distance to place a nest

[fresh marsh]

i honestly agree its not location based, but an area on the ground IS possible

[gloomy sand]

specific locational parameters allow for camping

[fresh marsh]

yeah

thats the reason i dont think its location based

that and it would be impossible to tell if you were doing it right

[gloomy sand]

part of me wonders if they want us all to be roleplayers so we gotta go thru the whole dragon life cycle, which would include dropping a nest and then distane traveled

cuz youd be going around the map

[plucky cosmos]

but is that "cool"

[gloomy sand]

different definitions of cool haha

It would also be nice to confirm if there are different methods per dragon, or different methods depending on where you mutate

[plucky cosmos]

anything would be better than the very vague words we have right now

[fresh marsh]

i don thtink its different per dragon, thats a lot of extra work, then they have to come up with something for each new dragon

[plucky cosmos]

i remember a screenshot of someone saying consider whats possible on all maps, and in both survival and fantasy

[fresh marsh]

different mutations could be an option, but still more work than one that works across the board

[gloomy sand]

Just a theory again, but I feel like he wanted to move away from not just camping spots, but also people logging on for a quick elder tick and logging out

or just only getting on the dragon to eat shrooms, never using it until elder

I think the point is gonna force us to use these dragons, have them more vulnerable, and therefore more risk taken

which is annoying when you consider an elder ss can probably 1 tap an adult IR

[plucky cosmos]

that's from a pvp point of view, pve its far more relaxed

[whole hearth]

But pve is boring

[gloomy sand]

well sure, but pve is intended to have the threat of ai, it just doesnt currently

[whole hearth]

We want action

[plucky cosmos]

that is highly subjective

anyway, before we derail, the system is suppsed to be in, right now

[fresh marsh]

pve is only boring right now

they are getting more ai to fight too

[plucky cosmos]

what can we do, right now, in all servers, across all possible maps in the future

no matter the game mode

that's the baseline we have to work with, i think

[acoustic holly]

System can be in place without the mechanics being live

[plucky cosmos]

that would frigging suck

[fresh marsh]

its not a long list magna

[whole hearth]

Yeah just because its confirmed to be in, doesn't mean it can be done yet... take the weather mechanic as an example...its in but not active

[fresh marsh]

if it cant be done why would he say hes going to change it if we can figure it out

[whole hearth]

He wants us to cahse our own tails

[plucky cosmos]

i think i genuinely might just take a week away from dod if this doesnt get solved, its too much stress and its become more frustrating than enjoyable

[gloomy sand]

as basic as every 50 bugs you eat lol?

youre rewarded for playing more but youre naturally limited by bug availability, your hunger regen, etc

there are also different colored bugs

[stray notch]

i forgto about this conversation but the mewing new SS model made me remember

it needs mewing*

[summer merlin]

Maybe you just have to nest some melas to unlock eldering on your dragon 😩

[languid trout]

Next it’s time to bite your own tail. You know like the Ouroboros

[acoustic holly]

Tomorrow for sure I will! Tonight? Catching up on sleep.

[stray notch]

atm i nested 9 eggs as social mutated female

nothing.

im coming back 12hours later to check trick, i can bet o change

(btw all melas only 1 was crim)

[summer merlin]

._.

[naive oxide]

has anybody tried drinking from every water source?

if anyone has played beasts of bermuda, visiting and drinking every water source is a way to improve your 'trials' which is a way to improve your stats later on. maybe there's something similar here?

[last minnow]

tried it, nothing really came of it

i had a similar thought of it being the "water source trial" but it didnt totally make sense

[naive oxide]

dang, was thinking i had something for a sec

[pulsar swift]

Maybe the trial is to drink from one of the glitched pieces of water /j

[mint tulip]

has anyone tried ritualistly sacrifice bugs and eggs? 😛

[pulsar swift]

@mint tulip just east/northeast of the big tree near the great falls there's a small pool with a rock ledge on one side. I've gathered up to 5 bug corpses and tried to do different emotes at them

As SS, the mating call from 3 different angles sorta look like a ritualistic dance

[robust crypt]

Here's a thought

What if it's meditating/relaxing by/near crystals?

[dawn pelican]

please, leave the poor crystals alone. They are all already suffering from ptsd from all the things random dragons did to them

[robust crypt]

XD

It was a thought I had when scrolling back up to those BR coords and was like "wait a minute, that's basically right around the BR cave that has crystals"

[dawn pelican]

moonlight, did you contact jao yet? ;_;

[hallow mountain]

I'm awake!
No dreams about the eldering system, but I had a claustrophobic dream where I was trapped in an elevator with the walls shrinking over time 😭🫡

[hallow mountain]

Mostly harrassment, yeah

[turbid copper]

[robust crypt]

But anyways yeah, people have tried all sorts of things on the crystals

But have you tried... Doing nothing to them? Just laying there, basking in their glow.

I'm considering doing some testing tomorrow when I'm at my computer, but the idea came to me when thinking about Helix's dilemma about their alt SS, which has seen less playtime than their main SS, then double checking the coords they shared and comparing it to the map that gives coords of specific points.

[hallow mountain]

I will try to overfeed my ss

For overfeed I mean keep it below 5% food for half a hour and see what happens

[hallow mountain]

I'll go eat some ice cream to forget about it lmao

[dawn pelican]

lmao

[turbid copper]

good idea

[hallow mountain]

Ice cream supremacy

You don't understand, they sell a favor that is called "Azzurro" ("Light blue" but in italian) and it tastes like bubblegum

One of my favorites

[turbid copper]

That's nice

[hallow mountain]

The chemicals add another layer of fantastic

[deft spruce]

I want to mention something, i also noticed the crystals ligning up with each dragons element, and that the crystals keep their color in nightvision, also that in any other crystal cave the air is clean, but the crystal cave by BR has ''sparkles'' or ''glitter'' in it

Another thing i have been thinking of, is the giant rock formations

i flew to pride rock and noticed pride rock was pointing 2 ways, one was towards a rock pillar in the distance, and the other was pointing towards the giant triangle rock formation

[dawn pelican]

trust me, everything and i mean EVERYTHING has been tried with the crystals.It was even stated by one of the devs that the crystals are only for the looks

[deft spruce]

ok but what about the rock formations?

[dawn pelican]

now that is an interesting idea worth looking into

[deft spruce]

most of the giant rocks also have a giant tree nearby

im going to try and draw a map between the rocks, but the rocks are somewhat unclear on the already drawn maps

[deft spruce]

1 third thing, (which is might just be a visual glitch) is that i was hurt once in the crystal cave by the waterfalls

and my blood started glowing blue

i figured it might be a reflection glitch with the light but i didnt notice it happen when i was in other caves

[deft spruce]

have you tried having all dragon types fire on their element crystal color in the same cave?

[dawn pelican]

was probably a glitch

[dawn pelican]

yes

[deft spruce]

mm ok

ive been starting to look for underwater caves too lol

[hallow mountain]

maybe we can work something out using coordinates

[fierce violet]

Hmmm just baffles me how it’s IN GAME rn

[hallow mountain]

time to generate a map on minecraft lmao

[turbid copper]

lol

[hallow mountain]

watch me make a 1400x1400 square and place waypoints

[turbid copper]

Tbh i don't think it would be that complicated, that's already another level with the rock formation theory

[fierce violet]

It must be something that an individual player could do even on a server that’s populated by just themselves. I find it hard to believe that the eldering system would be accessible only with other players or other species around/interacting with them etc

I thought maybe something to do with eating the bio until you’re a certain % of poison or something but that would make it unfair if no bios were on for example

It’s got to be something accessible to every species. Therefore on the ground /low level for asd

But just stumps me. Have tried basking by the crystals too but then I’ve since heard they are just cosmetic so idk!!

Been right up to the mountain because I thought ASD could then get above cloud height but nothing to do up there

So strange maybe get bio to spray someone up in at cloud height - but again. That relies on BIO xD

[errant shard]

if this game would have the fame of like diablo 4 dataminers had already found out all ways of eldering 😄

[dawn pelican]

gotta ask the community to help us out here XD

[hallow mountain]

Just turned EVERYTHING on beawesome, it handles it pretty good, it's not super smooth but it's playable

[rapid radish]

If no one answered yet, x2 growth speed gives you more elder growth too

[hallow mountain]

🗒️✍️

[cold crest]

@arctic girder in here for the new elder method discussion

[dawn pelican]

any answer from jao yet?

[cold crest]

Not yet. He is very busy at the moment though

[dawn pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/waiting-waiting-patiently-waiting-for-you-waiting-on-you-gif-15489516379864441176

[pulsar swift]

I feel like he's rushing to finish Blitz in time And thats okay, game dev is one stressful job.

[hallow mountain]

Probably yes, but I rather having a good but delayed update than a buggy but on time one

[arctic girder]

Thank you, I must have been blind scrolling these forums xD

[fringe badge]

I high-key wanna follow the rock formation theory but more because I want to see if they do properly point at things

[rough root]

We await with bated breath, thank you Moonlight 🙏

[rapid radish]

You got your role back, yaaay! ^^

[rough root]

I DID!

[minor hinge]

I have come to the conclusion.

Screaming at rocks do absolutely nothing -.-

[compact kindle]

I take that as there are no new active theories?

[rapid radish]

Did your dragon scream at them or you behind your screen? xD

[wooden marsh]

my guess is both

that's what I'd do

[minor hinge]

I did indeed do both

fair assessment

[rapid radish]

@rough root Screaming at rocks in and out of the game isn't helping xD

[minor hinge]

XDDD I tried so many rocks, theres a formation further back just a bit past ef, that has like 3 rocks facing inward, I've screamed at each point on all dragons, and idk if its multiple people or whatever but.

Screaming at those rocks, and other rocks that look to be like the lion king points, does nothing, xD

[heady trench]

Screaming on top of rocks also ain't yielding positive results

[minor hinge]

XDD

[tame crest]

Speaking of rocks, I love that you can see where caves and what not are intended by very obviously unnatural rock placement

[rapid radish]

😁

[vale mortar]

It'll be update before Jao gives any info

[dawn pelican]

fr

[hallow mountain]

I keep finding crabs scattered in areas where there is no water

what if we have to follow a specific path and these are supposed to help you follow this path?

[keen basin]

nah, thats most likely just the result of them copy pasting map textures all over the map

[hallow mountain]

wdym?

[rapid radish]

Any insights what jao thinks is "cool" xD

[turbid storm]

What if "cool" relates to temperature?

[rapid radish]

The context didn't seem like that thi

*tho

imo

"Hard to figure out, but cool to do"

[rough root]

Damnit

[minor hinge]

water,snow,temp are all cool.Island is cool looking.

but i not see the temp move form day 1

[hallow mountain]

it can't be camped tho

[mellow dawn]

Maybe it involved the feature screenshots from the update release?

[rapid radish]

Difficult, but cool? xD #general-chat message

[deft spruce]

do it, i need to know if im crazy with the rocks or not

[rapid radish]

psst, Jao is in the chat, go ask him more hints xD

[dawn pelican]

what chat?

go convince him!

[deft spruce]

i do think its odd, that only BR crystal cave has sparkling effects when the other caves doesnt

[rapid radish]

A HINTTTT

@rough root

[vale mortar]

thats a hint?

[turbid yoke]

TF is that XD

[dawn pelican]

umm, the only hint I will give is that you must take the first step before you can climb the elder ladder

Qol

those are jaos hints