#New Elder System
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They already stated there is an active method lol
THAT is what we are tryna understand what actually means
that's... passive XD
yes by our definition it would be passive
but what if they are being trolly with it being like have to play the game
We are trying to find out the significant actions to trigger the active method of achieving Elder growth! lolol
anyone check the snow mountains btw?
imma go with yes xD
If you read back a ways or check the pins you will see what others have tested
maybe you need to kill and eat 100 dragons
and yes I know what about pve
but what if that is the only method thus makes it so no reasonable active method in pve
... That would be incredibly unfair to an entire chunk of the player base and I'm pretty sure no dev would do that. lol
If something that massively differnt was in place I tihnk the devs would warn us to not waste our time on PvE then...
in aquiring elder I mean in that regard... otherwise you are forcing players to wait near 100 days to unlock a core part of the game? yeah no
In Guild Wars 2 some crafting recipes of Legendary stat gear, require parts that literally have a 24hr cooldown to make it again. and you may need like... 3-5 of the same piece. So yes you are forced to wait, but that game has also been around longer and has a TON of other things to occupy your time while you wait. loads more. This is a dragon survival game, still in development, and still lacking parts to it. Not to mention quest giver NPCs, etc. I'm sorry, to make a long story short, I do not think The Lead Dev would lock the active Eldering method out of the PvE player base and leave them only having to wait every day for near 100 days on some dragons to gain a high stat dragon. no way. lol
uh, i found a spot with the underwater vision in the forest area by arch, is that a known bug?
pic? I'm confused
Yes. The devs are aware of that spot
Looks liek you just threw your camera int eh water. it does kinda bug out when you do that
didnt go in water tho, just hit a tree and then walked a little
The redwoods in front of arch has that spot
yeah there are spots where for some reason water visuals pop into our view. it is a bug.
alright
that water dirty. lol
guys, were these 2 crystals always white? i remember then blue/orange
if you think they have changed colors... come back to them later and check them. test them. However, note that the community has tested the hecc out of the crystals...
rn gonna do a suicidal mission for finding it LOL
ill get you the coords
(i mean they arent confirmed to be ONLY cosmetic, means MIGHT be elder ones or whatever)
Only pearls in the game rn are the KS and PT cosmetic ones
u cant be sure?
We only have the cosmetic ones rn
They've litterally stated that pearl drops havent been added yet
only cosmetic pearls in game atm. Like gold overlay. They made sure to add them in. the other stat pearls aren't in yet.
So if we don't figure it out in time they're reverting it back to the original eldering? then what was the point in spending this much time adding a new eldering system for them to revert it if we don't get their impossible "REDACTED" hint..? lest this is false information? (This isn't meant in a rude manner whatsoever, just curious if this is true or not)
i dont think its being changed back to the original, just something different than planned
I see.. but then wouldn't that make all of the work that we've been doing worthless?
not really
What Zalastus said. I didn't mean to make it sound liek we were reverting. No. It was the devs were goign to change the method again and us as a community will be back to square one in figuring it out probably with zero hints. Again. Sorry. ๐
we havent found the current one, and the new one might be easier to figure out
muhahha im rn going through old videos of devs talking abt 1.0 to find ANY old hint that they might have said
he might be changing it because its too complicated
I wasn't saying you were reverting, was saying the devs. I suppose it could be easier and all that. i just wish he'd give a hint that isn't.. yknow.. REDACTED xD
Well he was saying that when he reveals what it is/was we are going to wonder how we never figured it out. Implying it's obvious.
not obvious enough, apparently
Then I guess it's not so obvious. I've been trying to follow this thread for a few days and I can see many players putting their video game logic and minds to work. It's awesome
when did he say this?
A few days ago I think.
People are utilizing in game mechanics already present, They are looking at lore, common signs in games that tend to lead to secrets via audio ques, specific spots around the map, time of day changes, you name it. Where have we not looked???? XD
Near the snowy mountains i heard an unfamiliar broadcast, but it may have been something else entirely.
i was looking for invisible bugs and flying around with max exhaustion
But if its something "so obvious" then it has to be something we're thinking too hard about..
guys i have a big*** theory, not rly new one but confirming what lyndoriel in the SS agility theory one
If it's so obvious... then why aren't we seeing more "you feel stronger..." messages...
oh my god this is o ovious
It was something that someone else told me.
gimme 20 minutes im giving yall the new elder system.
Timer starting now xD
and he was never heard from again
I'm goign to bed >_< lol
Same, night.
uh, is there supposed to be stronger bugs? i just found one that took two bites from an adult SS, and it wasn't just one bite of food for said adult SS
Yes, There are bigger and smaller bugs.
ive had that happen a few times
Some give more and less food.
ah, alright
Red i think is the biggest?
hard to tell, in twilight lighting, but it looked reddish
cries in colorblind 
(just judge it by girth lmao)
or he could just tells us
... watch the scrabs are color coded... ss eats blue ones, acid Spitzer eats the green ones etc... ๐
I SWEAR TO GOD GGUYS I FOUND IT I FEEL LIKE IM FLOATING I BELIEVE IN THIS THEORY
Well don't keep us in suspense good man! DETAILS!! Lolol
why give us details when you can cause a scene instead
Give everyones hopes up.. xD
if you tell us the theory people can help you test it while you log in
Well?
shhh let him focus

I saw him typing and now he is gone 
He probably got his daily tick and thought that he found it..
just to ask, has anyone waited on the tallest mounting at high moon-noon?
I was there around that time and i got nothing
i don tknow that ive been up there at that exact time, but i have spent a bunch of time there, im not doing anything now i can go chill there for a bit
collecting more info
would be easier to collect info with help

i know but im so shocked how this info is just falling from sky, we were told about elder system for long but we never noticed
Noticed what, Exactly?
what does that have to do with not telling us yet
We never noticed... what ๐ญ
you dont hand a steak in front of a starving man and expect him to sit there
Actually... that raises the question if we got a floating island somewhere..



long answer im writing down DONT PUT ME UNDER THIS MUCH STRESS WAAAAAAA
no shirt
Fine fiiiiine take your time xD

sounds like passive ticks
The eldering system are the passive ticks. The grind is to stay alive for 80+ days 
We believe in you
see I believe that
I one hundred percent believe that is all we got
let the poor man cook, its better than stewing in silence
Around the world in 80 days except you can't get around this one.
After all we tried... I think thats it
i would be okay with thqat tbh, but i also think they would have told us that
Yeah
WOULD THEY AHVE?
Nope LMAO
i believe them to be trolls XD
nah
why be so secretive about something we already know about
Then the "content" of looking how to elder would be gone
They will tell us in however many days it would take to hit Elder.
that isn't content though
That can't be the case. WE asked : Is the eldering in yet or is it just passive ticks, Hivemind answered " Eldering is currently in the game" or something along that line.
I know
and yet it still keeps the majority of people busy
ah that is vague enough to say it could just be passive ticks
and if they were trolling, why let it go THIS far, we are all waiting for the words of a madman in the hopes hes on to something
Could be milking everyone for ideas lmao
be honest? I believe in the "because f u" theory
weve had some good theories, i dont know that i would even be mad
im a fan of the courting bugs theory myself, i hope thats the one they pick
To be honest it isn't a bad way to form new ideas so that they have a nice unique system.
I think next patch they will "change" it because we could not figure it out (since it was not in yet) and they are just like, ohh guys we changed it now have fun :) but in reality they only patched it in xD
What if the person never come back and leave the server ๐
SEE THAT IS JUST AAAAAAAAAAAA
but which one is the yes to?
Not unless I missed it flying above and through the clouds of pretty much the whole map. And a single floating island would be campable so no
The yes could apply to both so it is a nonsense answer xD
chat moved too quick and i replied to the wrong person
The moment a question has "or" "yes" is not a valid answer LMAO
Haha, you're good.
but also
I mean passive would
Passive it is
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I mean... unless theres a portal somewhere?
I feel like its such an obvious thing..but we're thinking WAY too hard
Yeah I think so
why are they so bad at giving hints
or, maybe there IS a floating island of some sort, but then; drakes cant get to them..
what if? I hate passive and I want elder faster?
MMMM we're thinking WAY too hard
f u then?
Consider looking what would work in the game
that is what I am getting now
We are looking for atlantis when it's probably a random thing about bugs or idk what
which saddens me
imn still waiting to hear this "the secret is the entire game" matrix theory
so everything we tried, got it
It'd have to be something simple
Guys, Think simpler
no emoting bugs, no swimming under lakes, no nightvision or aurora borealis, no green lakes or hidden shrooms.
There is only so much you can do at the moment and yet we tried basically everything lol
LMAO
ok someone with gold skin imma s it on you
theres gold skins, bury a gold asd and sit on it
Let tamim speak
oh right I forgot about them
Educate us ol' wise one
hes typing!
Omg omg
And if it turns out to be:
- one Item spawns in elder randomly you pick it up or do something with it then... idk man xD
.

Let the man speak xD
... crater area?
Already checked 
fek
I was about to say eldering has been proven to not exist, I got the "you feel stronger..." message and it went 5 minutes, but I was still 0.0%
Another theory, you know how we got red bugs and black bugs right? But Red bugs seem less common? What if you gotta like eat 50 red bugs or something?
Remember, Simpler than that
There is someone who ate like 100 bugs xD
that's just mushies again, isnt it?
i am sorry is there red bugs?
Lmao
thats just the light that look different
The new method isn't campable.
did he really stop typing?
Feels bad
Yeah ๐ญ

Is it really just the light? I've seen both red and black though in the same lighting but who knows. I know UE textures are funky.
I swear.. If the red bugs are it, imma never get elder. Im red/green colorblind -.- I would never be able to tell what i killed
theres for sure red bugs
At least with shadows.
There are multiple colors / sizes of bugs
Okay so I'm not crazy.
i did have a bug that took two adult SS hits to kill, and i could take two bites out of it for food, so there are bigger ones
I've only seen 1 type
Ooooh right for the size ? I thought it was camera angle / me being crazy xD
i havent noticed different sizes, but i havent paid attention and its hard to compare when they arent right next to eachother
felt im with you
Elder bug 
oh heck no
i mean
It's the only thing I can come up with considering the current assets in the game that I have seen.
Thought it was camera angle tho
it is simple enough to make us say why didnt we think of that
Have we.. checked to see if its anything to do with the old legacy shroom spots for eldering?..
I've effectively flown all over the map.. checked out a lot of cliffsides and such for new caves. Haven't found anything different.
because why would we think the bugs were worth anything more then food?
they are just that bugs
i tested this too and got nada
Same here
I would say yes to the old elder shrooms but I haven't seen any of the blue colored shrooms that used to be in game. It's just the basic red ones that don't glow now.
Dang, unfortunate..
Unless you gotta shroom poison yourself to elder idk
So, They said to think of a method that would work across the rest of the maps, Maybe its diving for a certain amount of time, Or maybe theres a sky island.
He said shrooming is no more
cause if its in the sky then it would work across all maps..
Yep yep
remember, might not have big water areas in a desert
But not for ASD 
Has anyone gone around and killed/ate a bunch of red bugs?
And won't work for some future drakes
Big bug falling from the sky ? At this point I don't know anymore ๐
all maps will probably have bugs...
We even tried throwing hatchlings from the sky lmao
Exactly my point, every map has had bug ai.
theres about to be a bug genocide in the name of science

Murder all the archnids.
My bet is that the elder system is in, we found it already too but it is bugged so we don't actually get ticks
next patch they will fix it and suddenly it works
HE TYPES

dont spook him!
Whoever suggested the mass ping of devs, I'm absolutely on board with that ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ๐คฃ
We said no pressure 
and i have a server restart in five
Do not mass ping the devs
Massive ban incoming xD
That will result in a mass ban x"D
yeah thats a huge no-no
Bring it ooon xD
That will result in Yeetus Deletus
"they were about to find the new elder system but they all got banned oopsie"
and i want it on record i will not participate in that
And also ppl, it was a joke xD
xD
I also will not and wont participate
He gonna ban his whole community??
that'll be something
Just imagining it being an all out war between staff and members lmao
Can someone of power confirm the elder grind system is in and working how it is supposed to? (Not speaking of passive ticks)

Also I've been here unbanned from the start, I prefer to keep it that way. I've survived these almost what... 3 years?
I'm suprised i survived tbh
he stopepd typing
All these years 
I haven't been banned either yet xD
Who?
He's goin over his work shh
xD
alright, we calm, we very calm
Patiently waiting 
Why are we calm and waiting? ๐
I'm still sticking with bug theroy.
Give him patience, its only been 30+ minutes
Because someone told us they found the way to elder
oh wait he only asked for 20
I'm being lenient
Who was it?
Tamim
i think the name was tamin or tamim
Yeah so everytime Tamim is writing everyone is like ๐๏ธ ๐๏ธ
Spill the beaaans
had a breakthrough and vanished to check without sharing it
It be the timtam
I hope so, but they better bring proof ๐
I demand screenshots or it didn't happen.
hes probably biting different colored crystals
Timmmyy you are doing great 
You got it buddy!
we believe in you!
Perfect entertainment right here while waiting and nesting ingame
Tamim said something earlier about a Lyndoriel, and an SS agility theory? Ringing any bells for anyone?
Yes ๐

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Someone else said that they got a small tick flying close to trees xD
Should be in the document
Yee
Ask the devs questions about active eldering but change the questions so they are just different enough to be a new question.
You get a small tick every 12 hours as long as you log in to that dragon.
Probably, but I haven't been able to keep up as much, so it might as well be greek to me.
In other words, which document??
Check the pins
It's pinned :)
Its pinned yes
We make a riot and just all eat the red shrooms until we all dizzy
Gotcha. I'll check it out. Thanks.
i'll join that
Don't do shrooms kids

But first you have to find them.. since there is basically no food on the map 
Do asd's get poisoned when they eat the red shrooms? If so, what happens when they spit on someone? Reverse shroom theory go.
we wouldnt be kids if we could elder
walk into Beawesome games HQ high on shrooms irl and tell them the voices said active eldering is [redacted to avoid another warning]
This isโ gets punted
|| just redact all your messages as protest ||
another?? there wass a warning? 
Or send the rhino in a tutu pic in all channels with no explanation xD
... ๐
Well the two things that have stayed in the game (Aside from the trees and water) would be the bugs and the shrooms. So perhaps they both go together somehow idk.
Rhino was asking us to post Steam reviews. My Steam review:
Day of Dragons is a [redacted] game. I particulary like [redacted] as it lets me live out my childhood dream of [redacted]. I however wish that [redacted] [redacted].
They can buy the DLC to unlock the unredacted review 
Dont give them ideas brother xD
Jao hated the shroom eldering, it was "not dragony enough"
So then wtf is LMAO
Burning down a forest? Eating children? Killing dragons? flying fast?
Maybe there is a princess npc hidden and we have to find it 
i'm loosing my mind
Idk but I haven't seen runes or a glowing shroom woods yet
Also haven't seen any shiney piles of gold.
I was warned for a single swear word last night while kind a heated after hearing about the devs wanting to change the eldering method if we didnt find it out. Single word, first infraction, but I think the word was fitting for my emotional state and fitting for the conversation subject btw 
Idk why they are so rude, maybe dragons DID do shrooms
Gib princess or pile of gold ๐
Jao is the princess, hence rhino in a tutu pic xD
LOL
We gotta dedicated some people who do the mass ping and one Person doesnt participate and keeps everyone up to date 
xD
Technically it could just be "flying high". Or flying fast. But its been extensively tested and we cant really replicate it.
where is tamim
Hiding.
Dragon's barbecue party, can't be camped, is social, no need for princess or gold, can be done in the whole map
I need more coffee
oh i also tried up, up, down, down, left, right, left, right, B, A, enter
didnt elder
I was thinking nesting while under bio influence but bio fades to quick.
What if.... the eldering system is the friends we made along the way ~
Does Bio breath do anything to eggs?
No
I don't think it would have anything to do with bios since it's not everyone who can have them ๐ค
Same for golden skin
In that case I wont make Elder, I killed a lot 
What if it's the memorial npc from legacy?...
I couldn't find any npc's but that was a theory on our server.
Hm..
Then where tf is it
Sorry, they just had a happy little accident that involved a full-charged SS blast to the back of the head
I was not involved in their accidental loss of life
Probably still in the snowy cave, just.. wherever that is in 1.0, i don't know
have we checked for caves on the snowy mountains?
That is one thing I didn't check.
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Would be campable tho
i did, there is none
Was the snowy mountains but that's because they are so close to the edges of the map.
Not if its a quest given from the npc
Hmm..
You could camp the cave or the npc
You can't really camp an NPC
"oh guys it's working we just forgot to put the npc in there, BUT the quest is working"
LMAO
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Npcs are not in the game yet tho
Red bugs pop up everywhere, not entirely campable. Would say taking something somewhere but that would make it campable.
If you know where it is, you just stay there and kill everyone who wants to get there
I would rage xD
There could be a safe-zone there that you can't attack in.
That memorial didn't get put into 1.0, pretty sure it stayed behind on the legacy branch
"lemme rework this for you guys" updates and puts in teh npc or pearls that they forgot to activate
where are the red bugs ?
They randomly spawn in the bug spawn spots.
I thought it was just the light changing bug's color ๐
has anyone checked swamp?
Only crabs for now from what I know
this typo gave me a mental image of giant bugs that the dragons ride around on
LMAO
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We need that in game now, don't give me such ideas
Considering theirs a world boss bug, we would just sit in it's mouth to ride it prob.
Can someone make it real like buff bio? 
how much did it pay you to say that? you wont fool me
With how long Tamim is typing, I hope they copy paste their message just in case the bot auto deletes it for some reason
I think they are just adding info as they find/get it
More than likely
that and there is a word/character limit without nitro
also tamim, we're not going to be mad if you didn't find anything
We just appreciate you trying to find something

i would like to hear the theory even if it doesn tpan out
I think we would rather just know more then anything!
might spark other ideas
Maybe there is a swamp snapper npc
this bug lookin pretty red
This is a dragon
Sorry lol I had to xD
haha thank you ๐ and dw already wrote like 10 lines at this point im personally beleiving in this one lol, when i drop it down it'd be down for debate and discussing thats the most important part
also i said 20mins and it turned out an hour bc there was 3 videos lol, there is other ones i didnt watch yet but ill be ok with this 3
It look green / brown ish now xD
it s different bug
oooh oki
I haven't seen a red bug in the game yet ๐
No worries! tyt tamim <3
just proving the different colors for those who havent seen them yet
I can't leave this channel now ngl
Then decided to look at the theory thread. lol
First one looks brown and second one greenish to me :p
I trust you sunny to update me later since Iโve been waiting for an update
looks more red on my main monitor, so i can see why people call it red
I'm suppose to leave for uni xD
definitely lkooks brown on the monitor i hvae discord on though
lol Tellin ya, I think it's bugs Helix. It's the only thing that's been in game since the start. I just know theres been different colors too.
To me that looks like a brown bug ๐
Secret crafting menu watch
will they be for all maps though?
Ngl, that bug be brown on both of my monitors xD
So I have 2 pcs, on both pcs I've seen Black, Brown, Red, and that off green. Now granted Black and off green could be the same based on lighting, the brown and red could also be the same in that retrospect.
Ye, that is green for me
more like bile yellow tbh, but yellow green works
Horse poop colour :p
the two spawn im using have spawned the same color, the one with green was green both times, the one with brown was brown both times
Okay crabs I can see being a thing. Might also be why one of our folks is already 50% elder. Or might be the x2 serverโฆ
..what kinda horses have you been around
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And she sits there for hours.
I think they should just tell us already no messing around or being cryptic
On the same exact dragon.
if it is bugs I will lose my shh
and the third one on the green spawn was brown
tho bugs are campable so mmhh
so spawns arent fixed to a color
Granted Iโve eaten no bugs in my server so havenโt tested that theory.
Idk about your knowledge about horses, but their poop is greenish brown xD
Can kinda agree with that but that bug had yellow in it
a third color has entered the match
Anyways Iโm for bed so someone either tag or screenshot for me so I can sleep.
My screen didn't give yellow ๐
Oh is that why they made food scarce?
For me; very dark brown
Do colors even exist at this point if no one sees them the same xD
I'm gonna be crashing soon myself. I do hope the bug theory does come up with some sort of result though. Would be nice.
Ikr! XD
its just peoples color settings on their monitors, personal preference and hdr and stuff
And colour blindness lol
lol
I dont think they would make the major food source a way to elder prog xD all hell would break lose if you have to compete for bugs now
But if it is tied to a colour, they should make sure everybody had a chance to see the colour. Also there are colourblind ppl.
We do honestly have someone on our server that is 50% the way to elder, but with boosted server stuff I can't exactly say it's legit legit from killing bugs or something.
if there are "elder bugs" i dont think eating them gives us growth, cause we would have seen random jumps as we ate them without knowing
Only if the bug in question spawns in the central areas
I vote for a golden bug being hidden somewhere xD
Could be whomever gets the kill, but eh.
all of us have killed many bugs though, we would have caught that at this point
Like the Golden Snitch? lmao
i say to hell with it and just ask in ask questions channel XD
watch them give nothing answer
maybe you have to collect all the colors like infinity stones
Someone already did I believe
oh well can try again
WE should all just start asking over and over again
till they give an answer
Ppl have asked in the ask questions, but mods answer there and they don't know either
lame
Bah alright, well I wish everyone luck. I'm gonna finally crash out... hitting that sleepy wall thanks to meds.
it'd be funny if it worked
i wont be doing anything that will possibly irritate them enough to make them not want to help
Just let us all spam "can we get a hint on how to elder" I. That channel and hope for the best? 
Night ya'll, good luck.
Apparently not even Parrot knows how to elder, but I'm not sure if that is true
he scream
The forbidden.... mmmm Imma take my leave.
I was gonna say meatball. Get ya mind out of the gutter

He spicy meatball XD
so far only the three colors, and they have all seemed the same size
i fear for my sanity though, the bugs are starting to talk to me
Listen to them... Follow them... Do as they say
yeah, so ill talk to you guys later, me and the bugs are going to take down dragonkind
Have fun~
had the same thought XD
"The bugs told me to do it!"
on a more serious note though, if theres a fourth color its a much rarer spawn
Apparently there should be red, green, brown and black ๐คทโโ๏ธ
ive only seen the three that i have posted
and all have been the same size as far as i can tell
They were already in legacy. All of them.
would be easier to gauge size on a bio i think
Or pick 'em up and see if they cover your face or not
i dont expect to find anything new, but i like to rule out every theory that pops up
I remember my clan mates tell me "here have a green/red/black/brown meatball" when feeding me. I wouldn't be able to tell myself though bc of colorblindness.
Black ones always stood out though bc they were dark
yeah i knew there were different colors, but some people seemed unsure, so im getting the proof
There were always different sizes too
1 size where you can eat in 1 bite as an adult asd, 1 in 2 bites and I'm pretty sure there is another size in 3
i should have done this on a smaller dragon
He still typin here and there
The aliens abducted him
No dice so far on the bugs?
if there is an elder bug its a rare spawn
which would make sense
could also not spawn in certain locations
would take more than just me to nail it down

but honestly i think its a dead end
not much you can do with bugs besides kill and eat them, and thats clearly not it
maybe theres a spot we can drop one or something, but that will take ages to find
maybe if you get all the colors together you can call captain planet or something idk
Itโs so weird that people have gotten elder points and donโt know how they did it
It has to be something super mundane
i think they just lost track of passive ticks
every single person that ive seen mention anything above what should be possible has been second hand information
Fair enough
"my friend said he got 20% yesterday"
Maybe the devs are just trolling us
maybe
anythings possible, but i dont think they would let it go this long, or i hope they wouldnt at least
Turns out active eldering isn't in the game yet, they just didn't have any ideas on what the new eldering system would be so they're making us "hunt" for it when in actuality they're using us as ideas
(/joking)
Its probably something REALLY easy or obvious and we're just thinking too hard to find it xD
I, for one, welcome our new bug overlords
Did any of you try this?
Just read it in the lore:
"I remember a riddle my father would tell me of the forests South of the Winter Winds. He'd say, 'Fly West to the Winter Winds, then South across the frozen snow, the frostbite caves will take you there, where forests are green and grow.'"
I know we don't have any snow or snowy caves but I'm curious if flying this path would do anything
i think thats the path the dragons took to get to the map we are currently on
north then east would supposedly take us to the winter area if it existed
WOO lets go tamim!
THE THEORY IS
You're such a troll man
lmao sorry
What
He spammed a ton of REDACTED
Knew it >.> /j
so i found this map tour of pancake with Echo the map designer, and he was actually hinting for new stuff in there, hinting for things that from current theories we now have, are starting to draw connections and start to look like some ideas that was tweaked to be under elder system, down here i'll be writing down all important qoutes * imo * of the whole series of 3 vids
[THIS IS PART 1 OF THE THEORY DIS DOESNT ALLOW ME TO WRITE ]
PART 1
"2:25 what will you add for lighting? -probably some crystals and fireflies" (just trust me this is confirming its not related)
"3:03 i have something interesting in this side but i have to keep it a secret for now" (looking at the current river cave)
"4:10 i've wanted to do some form of natural flight course, i wouldnt share where this flight course is, you'll be able to tell pretty easily if u look for it"
"9:57 there also will be a few other secrets that im purposely not showing that'll come in 1.0 or later"
PART 2
"9:05 as for another major part of this map especially in legacy is elder forest im not gonna say whats happening there just yet but its gonna be a cool area to
explore, and it wont contain a ton of SS and ASD mushrooms"
PART 3
1:20 its just interesting to mention how since then, the aurora looked sus, color changing i can bet wasnt put for nothing, would also represent crystal colors (may be related or im nerd)
"6:14 only down side of being level designer is i know all the secrets, i even teased some stuff actually, depending on where my camera is, some ppl noticed it there is a few areas that are special spots to be but thats is the only downside that i cant be surprised by the dragons." (there is 4-5 secret spots shown in the videos)
"10:15 misty is being redone, its actually going to be a very important area and probably in a later update that wont be 1.0 this will be a very important area(looking open field E of craters) and the hint would be that crater (zooms at eastern crater)"
[PART 2 OF THE THEORY; MY SPECULATIONS]
1- crystals shouldnt matter with eldering, all i could say they just might be an indecator that ur in a majestic place, a cave or wtv. and knowing that would be important for reasons for later
2- the fact that he thinks the cave is interesting place, is might also be same thing its a cave, or its an incomplete cave that takes somewhere
3-that flight course, yes thats the AGILE mutated dragons way of eldering in my opinion, ppl like Lyndoriel tried it, and this is some old reference for it, also interesting how he said it'd be easy if u look for it, thats where we as a community should together find out
4-the secrets are mysterious, maybe he meant the variation of eldering system, cave system.. who knows my idea is first guess.
5-elder forest is somewhere important, is it for nesting eldering? is it for the flight course- i got no clue, hold on didnt someone mention pearls in the eon theories?
also it not containing mushies just telling how they arent important to anything anymore, maybe it had side efect back then but not anymore.
6-idk about aurora, i just feel they link with crystals, both of them are majestic, cosmetic and fancy
7-what he meant about teasing is probably about the "flight course" rout, maybe the spots u have to nest at for social mutation (lets not forget first 2 points and crystals)
8-im son confused with this one i dont know what could be at misty, but who knows if the end of your rout would be there and something would be coming from the blue into the crater?! maybe "the pearl" would be there?! and the fact that its ESPECIALLY eastern one is just blowing my head we have to focus more on watching these
this is all i can get of information, through writing i can bet i forgot some points and ideas i thought of, but we all can connect even more information, and ALL OF THAT is only 1 youtuber that echo met, there is still a lot of places i have to look at to find more info
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its all interesting, but all of those areas have been searched
i myself have spent most of my time in both elder forest and the craters mentioned
i do believe in that thing about "if ur agile mutated, u need to have that flight course, if ur social, u need to nest at every single point of interest, if ur scavenger-" idk yet
It's a good thought process, don't get me wrong, but I feel as though all of that has been tested and/or searched
Well, In a way it has..
i think something like a flightpath would be very complicated to implement
But have we checked all the caves to see if there isn't some secret portal or secret hole?
i guess our first step should be this flight cours since its been said outright that there is one?
lol i enjoyed writing that, also i knew MOST of these have been searched but... we never looked at it this way? or am i the onl person who just realized this prospective?
raises hand I even found holes that I couldn't escape
also you have to remember ALL dragons have to be able to do it
did we try to nest in every single cave with crystals?
I'm not sure, i don't think we have
Arch could be the flight course.
Oh, It could be :o
Me and my friends have. But remember "shouldn't be campable"
ALSO as a full 3 points social dragon
Well, It wouldn't be campable, As in, Able to be thieved from or stolen from, Griefed or harassed in any way
If its nesting, you'd be NESTING. xD
theres some rock formations in elder forest that looks almost like a flight or obstacle course
But nesting within the same spots, could be considered it
that one is really interesting tho i dont visit it a lot
i would guess the flight course spreads over multiple areas since dragons are pretty fast at flying (at least ss)
i dont think many people do, theres no food there, only a pond, i checked it all out
but what about asd
even tried flying through the rocks and stuff
i tried juming around on the asd too
everything there is accesible by ramps and such, i think its just a set piece for something thats not finished yet
ye checked it a lot and JUST TODAY i found a cave in there
just telling if u never saw it
I remember that I read "if it is true that echo said that lusewing has already shown the system" in this channel at some point, someone was asking about it, so this video could indeed show something. I watched it, tried some stuff but found nothing yet xD
It's curious that almost 10 days after the update no one figured it out yet
is there a link to echos video?
oh i misread, its lusewings video youre talking baout
sorry, i dont know all these names
Thinking about it, elder dragons are usually just super old and experienced, the passive ticks could be the only way then
dont get it
experienced. thats the word
are they "agile"? they should be good at flying, and know the map well = flight course
dont forget asds
are they "social"? they should be nesting everywhere with everyone
i dont think it will be different methods for different dragons/traits
i'd say its basically just exploring in some certain route
Someone asked if it was true that Echo had said Lusewing had already shown the new system. I don't know where the original information came from, but I started watching all the videos just in case xD
but i dont really have anything to base that on other than it would be more difficult
What if its literally just hugging the barrier in a circle?
Like going an entire circle around the map
lmao
I mean.... could be o_o could be something like that at least
how would that be tracked?
lusewing map tour old video... or even the new one with echo.....
idk if anyone here knows the isle, especially talking abt evrima and its new migration zones
but they were able to put some kind of circle or a zone of a dinosaur migration, my bet is echo did those same zones but are listed in some sort to be visited in some order to be considered elder growth
Maybe..
without any visual guidance it would be pretty dificult to do
aqnd that sill leaves the asd problem
imagine trying to find an immigration zone on the isle without the compas
as i told u, they might have just long term been hinting it, yk eldering isnt something meant to be easy nor for everyone to do
I feel like a specific flightpath wont be it, since that'll be campable + unattainable for ASDs. But maybe its something like "visit points of interest" rather than flying there
im just waiting for my SS in sanctuary to be adult to try as much as i could
i mean a lot of games do that right? u just got some biomes and u get rewarded for visiting everyone of them, or after visiting them all
im not trying to tear your idea down, there are just some things that limit the option for flight paths as a way to elder
SS here. Been everywhere. Sat in craters, bit craters, slept in craters, blasted craters with my plasma. Flew all across the map, been circling going along the outer edges inwards to BR. Sat in several spots in Elder Forest, slept there, logged out, was at the "Eon spot", slept there overnight etc.
Also been doing dragon things over there, sniffing around, sitting around, flying around, blasting the moon, not had any luck 
For the 'trail' of agility, why not it have it be the water fall river? except instead of going over the log you fly under it as a flying dragon, and running through the log and down the river as asd. The video there showed the camera moving from the upper waterfall and then under the log.
Also, it was mentioned multiple times that there are diving points on the map
yeee im just helplessly tryna find any hope in any hints we had but seems like we're out of everything
well damn, nothing we could do
also i didnt understand from the doc what eon spot is, can someone pls explain it?
diving points?!
Yeah, the cliffs that jut out over the water in places
I'm sure there's a good number of them
It is a tree in elder forest with a pond, roughly 600s 510w I think
and whats the thing about it? i didnt understand where they explained what happend there
seen from the south, its a lake with the tallest tree in the elder forest on the northern bank, and a quick stroll to the northeast of the lake you'll find a hollow tree.
Eon claimed he saw a "glowing orb" or something that gave him elder progress
By flying "around and around in circles"
We havent been able to recreate it and I think several people tried
I was flying with my bio yesterday to just check any interesting places on the map, what caught my attention was when I was diving from the mountain towards the island the music started to play
Maybe it's a clue?
its altitude based from your ground level
I don't hear any music while playing only when a hatchie is born from an egg
so you gain more "altitude" faster as you fly laterally from teh top of the mountain
yeah, music wont play if youre in the mountains even if you are above the clouds cause youre closer to the nearest groundpoint
I tried it with my ss later and the music didn't start playing during the dive
the one with big rock around it?
this is at ~700 by ~560
the only thing I have seen there is 1 shroom spawn xD no bugs no nothing
yep, i ate it. just trying to find the eon spot
- sobbing *
ig im aput my points in agile, i hope it would do smth with the flight course
i think theres two shroom spawns there, theres one near the smaller tree to the right in the secon screen shot if i remember correctly
then the one against the big tree
I wish it had some bug spots near xD
not that one, the eon spot is further north
hmmm
how does the pond look?
does it have a log inside the water?
a big tree? 2 big rocks next to it
Its mostly circular. It does not have a log in the water but with night vision you see a white ish spot in the center of the lake
i see it
There is one big tree at the north edge of the lake with its roots sticking into the water
yes, thats it
the coords he gave is to the hollow log, on the opening towards the west
Mushrooms not dragony enough = reject draconism, become birb
ive spent a LOT of time in thast spot, i go there when im not trying other theories, on all four non-cosmetic dragons
im crying from the inside
plust the fact that its 12 PM im awake since last night i feel like im hhigh
Its the spot I usually hang out in, here or Sanctuary. I usually log out inside the hollow log
oops maybe bc i had no points put in anything i had stuff mesed up
meh i dont think it matters
where did that person who said about flight course disappear
anyways im trying i
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what's the eon spot ?
Credit: @lost lichen
If it's this is not really healthy x'D
i should have come up with a random theory just so people would call a part of the map the zalastus spot
on the map above its most likely elder tree in the southwest, just north of Castle
tho im fresh adult i just grew, i did the flight course from waterfal under the log into the end of river cave and NOTHING WAAAA
2nd scam like eon's? nah
i swear to god if 1% of this theory was right im telling discovering eldering credit goes to tamim lmao
ok, i know we are all tired of crystals, but i just found out a weird thing. The crystals keep their colours even in night vision. Doesnt have to mean anything i just wanted to mention it
at first it'll look wierd
but i think its just how NV system works, if a greater light takes over it fades off the black&white effect
that and you can see the crystals from any distance depending on your monitor resolution, i swear i was miles away and still saw the asd cave crystal
Crystals have been mentioned by the devs to "not have any connection to eldering."
"Fireflies and crystals are simply cosmetic" or something
"2:25 what will you add for lighting? -probably some crystals and fireflies" (just trust me this is confirming its not related)
^ From Tamim's essay 
in the vid echo fr said he got both of these only for lighting and just cosmetic, 100% confirmed
lol i was too late
I've just given up at this point, I've read everything, checked everything I can humanly and dragonly think of
Even went full caveman, unga bunga Stone blast rock with SS, haha funny
just found this weird looking spot, dont know if its does anything or if its just not developed yet
fr i would discuss and try any theory but making one? im starting to go silly
theres a bunch of spots with missing textures, and a huge hole in the mesh somewhere
that you can just walk through
open field in the middle of nowhere
DoD players: ELDERING SYSTEM YES ELDERS IM ELDER GOING ELDER WOOOOO
ive become very familiar with the map
I've tried to come up with my own but everything I've come up with has been tested to hell and back 
I know the map better than I know my neighbourhood at this point
Echo said that empty spots are empty for a reason, that he will add stuff in later updates
yk my brain is already fried with the isle lore and its theories and with 1.0 i came to chill and play DoD and then i find out eldering is changed....
not every empty place is actually empty, its some random grasslands
has anyone seen the small lake with a floating tree in it ?
what? o.O
also almost forgot to mention
in the whole map there is only 1 green crystal. no reason that i know. no impact and no excuse its just how it is
If its the lake i think it is it's not a floating tree, rather a baby tree growing on a fallen log thats floating in the water
none of which makes sense but it's there
๐
yea that one
just a fun fact, you can turn on nv in your heatvision on fs >.>
it makes it even more stronger
personally, im just done with eldering, this thing is for sure 1 of 2 cases
its not in game, we're living in a lie and devs would then release it with next patch I HOPE or myabe even longer
since we tries EVERY SINGLE POSIBLE THING then its a really hard and complicated way. no one did and no one will get to do it
and i do not believe how tf is some pll getting real elder grow by doing random mysterious stuff they dont even explain that well

or case 3. its really easy and we are just too stupid to realise XD
lmaoo
pls shen what have we not tried
like wtf is the key
what else does this game handle
every single nerdish idea have been tried
anything in box out of the box under the box
make the box fly dang it
burn the box
uninstall the box
then, delete the box from
hold on hold on
1 last theory please the nerd inside of me cant shut up
what are the cases where music starts playing
if its 3 i got it
we are desperate, every idea which hasnt been named yet is good XD
music during hatching, music during high altitudee flight...dunno if there's a third
and thats a maybe on hatching
i dont remember
I see other ppl are going insane too xD
just so we dont waste time on an already tested theory lol
i thought, since we are struggling with "there is no signs i started the proccess"
these might be, so nesting someone is the beginning of gaining elder as social, flying up is for agile and scavenger....?
@proper imp We need a cute hans blitz to appear pls
dude im thinking about taking a few weeks to a month away from this darn thread and game since its just stressing me out
PLEASE BABY BLITZ PICS TO SAVE MY LIFE
otherwise it will be the rhino in a tutu xD
because hearr me out
we need both
we are going insane
what is a spot in the map u can land on and high alt music wor- D:
WAAAAA (crying kid)
ASD cant get but high tho :c
nurse dragon ^
THIS is the solution
We've tried the boxes in alternate realities too
until we get another hint I will just assume that elder prog system is not in or in but not active atm xD just passive progs
have you tried to bonk the box ?
I have assumed that for 4 days now xD
They did not managed to put in enough bugs so would the elder system even work xD
just ask rhino guys
yes we lack hints and any signs to it
we just got passive
and devs always say "when its discovered, players will surely share it"
maybe they want the first dragon to hit 100% passive, then they will somehow get to know the method
and everyone else would know the active method after them
hiiiiive, cant you ask jao for a hint or something? ;; just a small thing. We just need SOMETHING, a direction a small hint what we need to look out for, just ANYTHING ;__;
what about the riddle
what riddle?
The riddle
redacted one?....
the nothing burger?
I will share the coordinates if I can
I'm busy right now
I'm also an adult yes
thanks, I'll see later
I'll stop you, I'll go back later
not something else
I don't even know the specific time but it's in the waters there
it can be at night, it can be in the morning
You're going to have to go around in circles
Also if it is not found within the next patch it will get change
hows that supposed to help ._.
this
then we will be waiting here for idk 50 days xD
This is no riddle
thats from eon, we still dont know if he was a troll or not
it looks like it
just trolling 
oh man
at this rate we will never know because the devs dont tell us
while making it probably something obscure enough noone will think of it
so simple everyone thinks wooooow that is stupid
i'm losing my mind trying to figure it out. spent over 48 hour of purly flying and searching the map
tbh at this point ill just wait till they either give us a hint or change the system, i dont see anything we can still do to try to figure it out
one could hope they see reason to actually tell and not be silly
no? an asd will 100%elder in less than 30 days if they started day1
because thats better
only 30 days
i genuinely never saw the point of hiding a mechanic from the players it feels mean
I tried to [redacted] the box, yes 
it felt fun at first
i thought it was killng stuff or smth
in 2 days i realized those devs just Fed us up
Redacted so I dont get punished for "swearing"
i mean i understand they want us to figure it out on our own, but you need to give us something ._. and if you notice people are struggeling even with the hints you gave, you need to give them more
at this point im fairly convinced that the theory of active eldering not actually being in game yet, and when they said eldering is in the game they meant passive eldering tbh. I could ofc be wrong but nothing points towards it actually being in game 
50 hours here, I started investigating active eldering at 40 hours played
we tried simple and complex things
this is my running theory
That's the thing, they didn't gave any
Now I'm at 90, no elder ticks for me :c
they did but they are so vague that they arnt of ANY use to us
but how many people even last before renesting as a higher stat dragon or different skin
Nope they didn't
If we had a hint at least we would be into something
As I said in the Crow document, a member of my clan had apparently taken this route and the next day he had gained 24% elder (he had put everything into Agility). I repeated the same route with him the next day, but I have had nothing to date (I have my points in Social).
But hey, even if he actually looked a little bigger than me, he never managed to send me a screenshot of his menu and changed dragons...
So was it true? If I can change dragons, I'll put everything on agility and try again myself....
they did
their hint is not in my opinion a sufficient hint
And what's that?
i liked it at the beginning that the community is working together and maybe that's the point but how hidden is it that all of us together can find it?
that is not a riddle xD Eon wasn't fluent in english, so that is a translation from his cebuano xD
well i feel more bated now
the redacted stuff, that its uncampable but grindy, (from a moderator) its supposed to be able to be done on all maps
why redact anything
That doesn't help us with anything 
i honestly wanna ping Rhino and ask him if he'd like to join us on this search
you say
that was what i was talking about XD hints that are so vague we cant use them dont help us XD we need hints that actually point to something. A direction, a theme whatever it is just SOMETHING
would you sacrifice yourself? XD
nope
At this point those aren't even hints
damn
A real hint would actually help and give you a direction lol
He needs to join and tell us if we're close
fr
yea
super rhino?
We haven't got any hints or riddles. He just said in some chat that if we don't figure it out, he will change it which is also weird.
which is stupid
tell us if one of our theories is actually correct or at least in the right direction. Doesnt even have to say which one it is, we just need ANY information
who's the sacrifice ?
because if they change it and not tell us then why even bother changing it
He needs to play a hot and cold game with us 
rock paper scissors
i don't understand the change aswell
i am ready to ping someone just tell me a name I will sacrifice myself TwT
I shall start posting the rhino in a tutu in random channels soon xD GIVE US A HINT XD
just ping all of the developers XD
ping the devs ๐
we will keep you up to date
super rhino would know right ?
Jao is the only one that knows apparently
Yeah he will tell us it's redacted
so you need to ping him

And the map maker
all of them ??!
XD
this is a "not good" (TM ) Idea
Group of mods watching right now to see who can ban the fastest
@jagged stone hey are any of our gueses close? :>
if we are that desperate, i dont think its our fault XD
That's one way to get a warning or ban-
echo made the map as far as i know
Oop

OH NO
banned
๐ซก
I'm not sure who else would know than Joa, but maybe you are right and Echo knows
Called it
o7

redacted is the answer your gonna get if any
A map maker would know every secret of the map
you made a big sacrifice for the greater good, we all salute you

the last time i will do this btw XD
what if the eldering isn't only map related ๐
also don't ping devs lmao
๐ซก
still
they sacrificed themselves for the greater good
have some respect
I will miss all of you TwT7
Nice knowing you
even Parrot doesn't know apparently

my friend got a spowned ASD since like 20th, its rn on 10.~
a minute of silence for devina
Idk where they are located but it's 2:30 am on the west coast in the US
now jao cannot find the ping, bc we flooded the chat xD
ah frick
Oh same lol
Not a great time to try
True
SILENCE
I am sleepy girl though -w-
but why is everyone saying they got elder grow never take pics?????? thats 100% troll
it is 4:30am Central US XD
you probably should have pinged hivemind.. not rhino
next thing you can try is to DM him 
hive doesnt know how to elder either tho
haha I am not pushing my luck that far
Shouldn't try to ping anyone
but hive doesn't know

if we flood the chat, they wont find out >.>
fair
I'm sure they check the discussion from time to time
@fresh marsh owo
shhhh, just pretend nothing happened
Please do not ping the devs unless they are actively chatting in here
ah damn
Lizard brain go Brrrrrrr
Jao is likely sleeping at the moment
we are desperate ;_;
@carmine birch here we're enjoying the show, remember the popcorn
I should probably be going to sleep myself it is like 230 here
Pls help !

just thinking openly.