New Elder System

[lime viper]

yeah me too xD

[dreamy acorn]

So I feel it would be something on the simpler side
And not bashing the devs I'm just tryna be reasonable

[lime viper]

I also ran like around the whole map on ASD to see if I maybe get ticks from just running around but nothing

[rapid radish]

it's easy to say that but hard to prove it, that's what we have been trying to do for the last 8 days 😄

[dawn pelican]

thats why i thought the orb thing would be the most likeley, but we were 5 people yesterday searching in ef for over an hour and noone found ANYTHING

[languid spoke]

it also has to be something that is available in the game now soooooooooo, not orbs unless they are hidden away somewhere

[lime viper]

I laos dont think orbs cus it has been said that it is not camp-able

[dawn pelican]

pearls arnt in yet, these orbs dont have to be pearls, thats why i called them orbs XD

[dreamy acorn]

I mean it's not hard to prove it's an early access game with not too many complicated systems

[lime viper]

orbs would be same as shrooms which you can camp

[dawn pelican]

they could spawn randomly tho and might even be only seeable by the certain person

[lime viper]

no its fully released isnt it xD?

[rapid radish]

Well show me an orb then, bc we haven't found any in game 😄

[vale mortar]

no

[rapid radish]

The game is in middle of soft launch and has left early access

[dawn pelican]

but after running around ef for an hour with 5 other people, not finding anything i cant really think that this is the system anymore

[dreamy acorn]

Why are y'all starting to get aggressive 😭
I have stated I haven't found an orb- I am stating a theory
And even if the game is early access or not it's not even finished so I doubt there'd be complicated systems

[languid spoke]

we're not aggressive, but it has to be a theory that can be achieved now

we're just blunt lol

[dawn pelican]

we know from experience tho that the system doesnt have to be complicated for us to still not be able to find it. Just think about how to unlock mela XD

[dreamy acorn]

Ah ic, hard to understand the tone of text

[dawn pelican]

im german, im always blunt lol

[rapid radish]

We are not aggressive, sorry if that seemed that way. 🙂 It's just seemed that you came in and stated we are idiots for not finding this way of eldering, that should be super simple in your opinion 😄

[dreamy acorn]

Yeah I'm thinking it's right in front of our faces and once we figure it out we're gonna be like "why didn't we already try that"

[dawn pelican]

yeah, but since jao stated he will change the system if we cant figure it out we might never know how it wouldve been done

[dreamy acorn]

Oh, that wasn't my intention at all sorry.
I just believe it's simply not as complicated because I saw entire Jedi trial theories and I was doubting that theory

[lime viper]

Before chaning it... just give us another hint

[dawn pelican]

fr

[languid spoke]

everything we've been led to believe thus far is that we can currently elder in game

but, nothing we've tried has worked either

so like, it's rough because we also keep going in circles on ideas/theories, especially when people pop in randomly and are like "THIS" but then, it's not that cause we tested it for 4 days straight

but....also, some things are just not possible yet (pearls/etc) so we are like.....a spaghetti bowl in here

[rapid radish]

Oh yeah, we have moved on from the jedi theory xD And all good! ^^

[turbid copper]

Another? but what's the first one

[languid spoke]

i feel like that could have been a facetious comment of his honestly

[lime viper]

Something something Jedi, something something social, something || something something ||

[rapid radish]

redacted redacted redacted is the hint xD

[turbid copper]

Those aren't hints

[vale mortar]

not even a hint tho

XD

[lime viper]

[rapid radish]

excatly xD

[turbid copper]

lol

[dawn pelican]

we disproved the social thing too already

[turbid copper]

The social thing was about the game in general not about eldering

[lime viper]

I like the Jedi one that hints on doing different trials but.. what trials, how to track them lol

[languid spoke]

"First you have to grow to adult, then you obviously have to go to Elder Forest to get lost"
not actually what he said, i'm just filling in the redacteds with options 😂

[lime viper]

but also hint on... just do dragons things... like ok

[dawn pelican]

well if we look at what jao said with the many "redacted" there is still a good chance that it is actual multiple trials

[lime viper]

would have ALL the elders by now then

[rapid radish]

"get lost" xDDDDDDDDDDDD

[languid spoke]

that's it. grow to adult (no admin help, cause let's make this fun right), then go to elder forest.....eat any and all red shrooms you can find so you're good and blurry, then wander around aimlessly

[dawn pelican]

dragons are still animals right? so i guess eat, sleep, produce as many offsprings as you can and then die?

[pliant ice]

”Get high and ascend”

• master oogway

[languid spoke]

oh and just to add to that, you gotta be nested in by iconic parents

[dreamy acorn]

That was a hint!?

[dawn pelican]

yes

[lime viper]

I read it somewhere iirc

[dawn pelican]

he wanted the system to be more "dragony"

[pliant ice]

Oh i think that was just my theory unless jao also mentioned it at some point?

[pearl root]

Maybe first person 🙂

[dawn pelican]

didnt he say that when he talked about not liking shrooms? that its not "dragonlike" enough?

[dreamy acorn]

What are dragons well known for?
Guarding caves
Breathing fire
Sitting on a cute gold coin pile
Dragon eggs

[rapid radish]

Btw, totally unrelated note, until now I read your nick as "Eatsalad" and I'm so sorry 😅 xDDDDD

[pliant ice]

To ”do dragon things” and live a long life, after someone mentioned they got elder points from flying and doing nothing special that we could tell

[languid spoke]

that's common no worries 😂

enjoy your salad

[pulsar swift]

Not enough caves, makes them campable (dev didnt like that)
Breathe fire (ASDs and SSs cant)
Gold coin pile (Do we have gold in this game?)
Eggs (tested, but maybe its nest, hatch and raise? Also been tested tho)

[languid spoke]

also, that lore is human lore for dragons. who's to say dragons outside of a human world do those things?

[lime viper]

we have golden skins in the game

[pulsar swift]

Kill golden dragons, sit on their corpse

[dawn pelican]

just abduct a golden baby

[dreamy acorn]

Just brainstorming but I'm throwing out basic ideas for what dragons r known for

I'm also thinking what if you had crystals? Pile of crystals?
Has anyone tried shooting or biting a crystal?

[pulsar swift]

Win/win, even if thats not the way you get food

[languid spoke]

we have 100% violated the crystals in every way imaginable

[dawn pelican]

"ptsd from crystals"

[dreamy acorn]

Bc crystals are new to 1.0 right

[pulsar swift]

we've tried about everything possible with crystals, I even tried to fly head first into one at full speed and biting it

[lofty sandal]

The crystals have gone through enough leave them alone

[turbid copper]

[dreamy acorn]

Oh LOL

[stark geyser]

Ive got a question for those that know the map better than I do, how many craters are there on the map?

[languid spoke]

that was rabbit hole #1 for us

[dreamy acorn]

2?

[pulsar swift]

The crystals have nightmares about dragons gathering around them

[dawn pelican]

and trying to court them

[languid spoke]

isn't it at least 3 craters?

[pulsar swift]

the Eon Theories about a shiny orb

[dreamy acorn]

https://tenor.com/view/toothless-httyd-tree-draw-drawing-gif-10478225

We need to draw with tree

[dawn pelican]

i know of 2 at least? one being actual crater and one just being a literall hole in the middle of nowhere

[stark geyser]

How many theories have we tested with the craters?

[lime viper]

It was being stated that the Revine and the Craters are more dangerous but tbh the most dangerous thing right now is the hitbox of trees

[pulsar swift]

@dreamy acorn https://docs.google.com/document/d/1KeZduOoVan9TrpKoCjmpO1OzvKfImIOMQLlSiqj_p0E/edit#heading=h.hkl0yc9b14vq Here's what's been tested and whats still undergoing testing

[dreamy acorn]

Oh thank h stone

[pulsar swift]

I havent tried nesting in them, beside that I've tried to eat them, burninate them, crash into them, night vision them, sit in them until I nearly starve to death

both of the twin craters btw

[rapid radish]

who remembers this xD

[turbid copper]

[stark geyser]

Well if there are 3 craters, what about going to each of them in order of how they appeared in the lore?

[rapid radish]

we have gone through some s**t xDD

[languid trout]

This made me think of something. Are there any fans of httyd in here? Maybe there’s a hint in that series?

[lime viper]

well elder is something you can still grind so it should have fixed criterias on what to do

[turbid copper]

how? the game is not even related

[rapid radish]

watching all of HTTDY in chronological order currently xD

[languid trout]

The game isn’t related but it could give us ideas on more things dragons do

[rapid radish]

um yeah they are, Jao drew inspiration from it 😄 SS is Toothless 😄

[dreamy acorn]

Well, toothless gets his lil alpha status after defeating the big white dragon

He was enclosed in Ice and blasted out with his super charge.

[turbid copper]

inspiration is something else

[languid spoke]

HTTYD also has humans in that world, where as ours does not

[turbid copper]

if u wanna see what dragons do, just watch GoT

[dreamy acorn]

What are dragons in HTTYD known for?

• Flocking to the Red Death
• Hoarding food and giving it to the Red Death
• Mating dances ofc, specific for each dragon species
• A large group depends on one alpha

Idk seems not likely

[pulsar swift]

For breeding I'd recommend Shrek

[turbid copper]

Sleep, eat, burn, repeat

[dreamy acorn]

Die in ice and get dragged out by zombies. Easy

[turbid copper]

yes

ez

[pulsar swift]

I'm convinced the answer is here /j
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90X5NJleYJQ

[languid trout]

Eh, was just a thought. There are so many places to draw inspiration from for “what dragons do”

[turbid copper]

or this

[pulsar swift]

Trogdor is the way, need to burninate babies

[rapid radish]

also don't forget kidnapping princessess ;D

Jao in a tutu

[dreamy acorn]

Guarding a princess =
Guarding a hoard????
I swear it's the crystals but I have no idea what else to try

[rapid radish]

The poor crystals xD

[pulsar swift]

anyway to start with I'm gonna test some SS flying, if that doesnt work I'll explore the ASD path.

[dreamy acorn]

What if you mate call the crystal while holding the left mouse on it

[languid trout]

People are running into so many ideas it’s hard to say what path is right because dragons are diverse

[pulsar swift]

Already been attempted, nothing :c Also tried nesting around crystals

[lime viper]

yeah because we dont have any real hints that help xD

[languid trout]

Like trying to find a needle in a haystack

[dawn pelican]

wtf did i just watch....

[pulsar swift]

Like trying to find one specific apple in London

[pulsar swift]

You're welcome

[dreamy acorn]

Have we tried biting crystals in class tier?
Orange yellow white red green pink

Flamestalker, IR, Blitz, SS, ASD, (healing dragon forgot name)

Idk if ir or flame is more powerful

[dawn pelican]

strenght wise i think ir is more powerfull

[turbid copper]

Crystals are just cosmetic

[lime viper]

Do passive elder ticks give the "you feel stronger" message?

[pulsar swift]

FS is stronger in terms of firebreathing I'd say, IR is stronger in terms of sheer muscle

[dreamy acorn]

Is that confirmed

[pulsar swift]

yes

[rapid radish]

everything you can think of, at least 10 persons have tried it, trust me 😅

[pulsar swift]

I think atleast, thats what I've gotten

[turbid copper]

I mean yea, how else would you light up the caves?

[dreamy acorn]

I can't give up on the crystals I'm so sure

[lime viper]

okee wasnt sure cause the other tick I think I did not get a message but I also might have overlooked it

[dawn pelican]

crystals would be campable tho

[dreamy acorn]

Crystals teasing my brain

[pulsar swift]

make that 20 people from now on @rapid radish cause I had 6 people yesterday with different dragons trying different stuff

[dreamy acorn]

So does that mean it is or is not more likely to be the eldering system

[rapid radish]

in legacy also eating a shroom game you that same message, so maybe the active eldering on 1.0 does too

[dawn pelican]

unlikeley

[turbid copper]

And crystals would be too obvious tbh, cuz there are so many

[pulsar swift]

Its less likely cause the devs wanted an uncampable option

[dreamy acorn]

Ah so devs don't want it to be camped

[lime viper]

yeah remember it in legacy

[dreamy acorn]

Okay icic

[rapid radish]

Then go do them all and tell us if you find anything new 😄

[dreamy acorn]

Alr crystals out the picture

[dreamy acorn]

I will when I'm home LOL

[lime viper]

tbh I think the crystals just decor lol

[pulsar swift]

no no, go try, you're welcome to become another tester

[dreamy acorn]

I'll try to do it in class order in each cave

I get home at 5pm est tho

[pulsar swift]

But yeah, crystals and the cave "fireflies" (and pink fireflies at the cherry blossom island) have been tested extensively by my group to no avail

[dreamy acorn]

So results will be a bit

[rapid radish]

also the jellies

[pulsar swift]

by the way I've heard mentions of some suspicious music in certain areas. I'm hearing impaired so didnt play with sound until thursday (2 days after I heard of it), but havent found any music in my travels. May be related so keep your ears peeled

[rapid radish]

which areas?

[dreamy acorn]

Hmmm that sounds like a good theory

[languid spoke]

next update crystals are gone
all the players "where did the crystals go!?"
Jao "they asked to leave due to trauma"

[pulsar swift]

Northern end of the center lake, around arch/world tree

the guy was playing an adult SS at the time

[rapid radish]

Only music I have heard is the first flight music

[languid spoke]

i have music turned off

[dreamy acorn]

So about east redwood area
Arch
Big tree
(Sorry restating it in my language so I can think LOL)

Forested area
Huge rocks
Huge tree

[pulsar swift]

West redwood, arch, big tree and falls basically

[pearl root]

I do not understand it. It´s not campable. It must be possible for single players. It's supposed to be grindable...what are we all missing?🤯

[dreamy acorn]

Oooooo okay

I'm ruling out sacrifice bc it wouldn't fit in pve

[pulsar swift]

But yeah, this was not first flight music, guy was ferrying us bugs as hatchies before this.

[pulsar swift]

if we knew what we were missing we'd have an answer by now

[dreamy acorn]

Jokes on us we're missing the eldering mechanic in the game

[pearl root]

https://tenor.com/view/starwars-gif-24406611

[dreamy acorn]

Has anyone tried saying Darth Vader in the chat
Perhaps it gives u elder tick

[dawn pelican]

lmao

[turbid copper]

or dracarys?

[dreamy acorn]

What if it was a musical guessing game
Based on the tone of the music you need to 1,2,3,4 or 5 call

[unborn wigeon]

Saying "Darth Vader at 3 AM CHALLENGE (OMG IT WORKED) 😱 Gone wrong! You won't guess what happened next!!!!" Video drops next week.

[dreamy acorn]

LOL pmg

[dawn pelican]

whats the usual ss elder tick?

[rapid radish]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-lol-lmao-lmaorofl-rofl-gif-5070201

[pulsar swift]

1.2%

[pearl root]

https://tenor.com/view/laughing-tease-its-over-high-ground-gif-14651206

[rapid radish]

it's either 1.25 or 1.26, still waiting more data from ppl 😄

[turbid copper]

https://tenor.com/view/darth-vader-star-wars-is-that-you-gif-23302211

[dawn pelican]

first tick .-:

[unborn wigeon]

Why is this actually such a neat idea? 0-0

[rapid radish]

Oh yeah, I'm collecting data on the passive ticks!

[unborn wigeon]

IR is .9 tick.

[dawn pelican]

i have video evidence as well that it was my first tick

im on ss

[dreamy acorn]

I will try it when I'm hoooome

[rapid radish]

0.917 to be exact 😄

[pulsar swift]

you cant have gotten 1.9 without doing something special

[dreamy acorn]

When bad romance plays you know it's a 5 call

[dawn pelican]

.>

[rapid radish]

Guys help me, if you have this info ^^

[dawn pelican]

i can upload the video to youtube and send the link "cries in no nitro"

[turbid copper]

[dreamy acorn]

Do one circle around the map then go to island and one call 🤨

Or find a pattern of coords and go in that order around the map. Idk I'm just spitting out ideas

[turbid copper]

just do /elder ez

[pulsar swift]

we'd need a video of your entire gameplay session, see if we can recreate the thing

[dawn pelican]

i just logged in XD

[pulsar swift]

from the moment you grew into adult to getting your first tick

[rapid radish]

that one actually is one of the theories, we even have the map route and what they did 😄

[dawn pelican]

i logged on to see what my first elder tick well be like since i tried flying around a lot yesteday, including the search for the orbs in elder forest

maybe the tick amount is random? i think in legacy it could differ on the amount as well

[pulsar swift]

Maybe thats the dragoning we need to do. Everybody fly, ASDs can run

[dawn pelican]

XD

[rapid radish]

at least the IR has been very consistent with the 0.917%

[north creek]

This is a theory, warning, this is theory:

What if one of the reasons it's so difficult to tell what triggers the eldering is that the tics are given belatedly. I.E. you complete a task that will give you the elder tic, but you won't see it until the timed elder tic passes. Which is why we see a variance in how much a tic is?

[minor hinge]

what get me why thay move hideaway to ef use be by arch

[pulsar swift]

can confirm so far: Out of 8 SSs I got to adult and one elder tick, its been consistently on 1.2

IR has been consistent on 0.9%

[dawn pelican]

hm, weird. Maybe its just a highly unlikeley thing that can happen?

[languid trout]

Yeah, I mentioned that earlier. I hope it’s not that because it would be hard to track

[dawn pelican]

we need more data on this

[pulsar swift]

I'm working on SS atm Iso, just need some patience

[rapid radish]

yes, it's a shameless self promotion xD

[languid spoke]

the differences in the passive ticks may also be due to the server they are on. private servers can set different growth speeds, those speeds affect the tick

[pulsar swift]

I'm on an official server btw so I only know the official ticks

[rapid radish]

good, bc I really need to determine if it's 1.25 or 1.26 😄

[dreamy acorn]

Has someone tried doing /eldercoords or /coords to receive a quest or smth

[dawn pelican]

that could be the case im on scaleworx

[languid spoke]

so for reference: 2x server doubles a standard tick

[north creek]

That is a good point!

Didn't think about that when seeing differences

[dawn pelican]

yeah scaleworx has a 1.5% growth boost but i dont know if it affects elder ticks

[languid spoke]

we're not used to different growth speeds on this game yet lol

it does affect them

[rapid radish]

they probs then have x1.5 growth speed

[cold summit]

it does

[dawn pelican]

ok, that would eexplain it

[languid spoke]

ye

[rapid radish]

that's why I accept data only from official servers rn xD

[pulsar swift]

On an official server

[languid spoke]

there may not be any coords for eldering

[unborn wigeon]

/quest and /mission are also invalid. Just tested.

[dawn pelican]

i give up man

[languid spoke]

it will happen when it happens

[pulsar swift]

I tried /task, /tasks, /log, /logs, /journal aswell

[languid spoke]

quests are not implemented yet, and those go with the fantasy servers if i recall correctly

[pulsar swift]

quests have been mentioned to not be released in 1.0 tho so I doubt it is that

yeah, what Eatsalad said

[dreamy acorn]

Ohhh man thanks guys
UGH okay so ruled out orbs, crystals, quests

[pulsar swift]

Well, I know where I'll be back once I hit adult doubt its related to eldering, probably a map developer who forgot some texture

[dreamy acorn]

And killing other dragons

[pulsar swift]

57.5N x 450W, ontop of the mountain. If anyone want to check while I walk my irl ASD.

[languid trout]

I’ve noticed spots like this that come and go

[languid spoke]

yea there's a few for sure

[pulsar swift]

"come and go", so potentially moving? A texture related to eldering thats bugging and causing them? Will we ever know...

[rough root]

I've noticed the same music cues as in legacy. That is, the one that kicks in when you fly super high. I love it.

I'll be doing a lil fine combing and adding @stark geyser's lore timeline to the sheet as well once I manage to make it home. Thank you 🙏

[dreamy acorn]

What if someone did the / command saying /(insert the sentence you get when you gain an elder tic)

[languid spoke]

i doubt it would be a command as that's not very "dragony"

[dreamy acorn]

Oh fair point

[languid spoke]

i think also......

a lot of effort has been put into applying dragon lore/logic from other genres to the game. we need to consider the lore/logic that Jao created for DoD to determine what dragons would do/think/etc....that might help us along

[wooden marsh]

well I'm not paying for the patreon to read that lore so someone else can do that

[pulsar swift]

We dont think it'd be behind a paywall either tho

[languid spoke]

pretty sure lore was posted in the discord somewhere for free already?

[wooden marsh]

why not? Almost everything in the game is behind a paywall

[languid spoke]

#lore-library message

there isn't much in the game truly behind a paywall

[wooden marsh]

ASD, Emotes, Skins, Bio, pearls. < none of these are behind paywalls huh lmao

[languid spoke]

you can be nested as ASD and skins AND bio. pearls and emotes? not really a big thing

[rapid radish]

and Bio isn't behind a paywall 😄

[wooden marsh]

OK fine just palm it off.

Anyway we're talking about eldering.

[languid spoke]

besides, my point was, the lore is there for everyone

[rapid radish]

It was a KS tier reward from 2019 😄

[wooden marsh]

no? really? can't see an example when given of something that can't be obtained by everyone

[dawn pelican]

you can be nested as bio and asd, so you dont need the dlc, emotes isnt something you NEED to play the game its just a cool little gimmick. The pearls that are in the game rn are only cosmetics, also not needed to play the game. There will be pearls later that everyone can get, dropping from things you kill. I dont see how ANYTHING is behind a paywall that would truly change the gameplay

[wooden marsh]

you don't think I know about being able to be nested in?

[languid spoke]

................

so about that lore

[wooden marsh]

the lore that was probably on patreon first then shared here

[fading bramble]

Who asked lmao. dont be rude
he just wanted to answer

[rapid radish]

I haven't read the lore, but I know many other's have 🤔

[wooden marsh]

wasn't being rude.

[dawn pelican]

the way you phrased it, made it sound like that this game has actual important stuff behind paywalls and you NEED to buy them to be able to play the game. Eldering will most definitley not be behind a paywall

[wooden marsh]

so you read it wrong then, the point is things are behind paywalls, mostly information that's only shared on patreon

[languid spoke]

so yea, my thought was that we may be going about it wrong if we're not using the lore specifically for the game

[languid spoke]

it's FREE look at the link to the channel here in discord

[dawn pelican]

ok then it was a misunderstanding. There is indeed information that only patreons have but most of it is about skins and stuff that doesnt really affect the gameplay: they know as much as we do, which is nothing (at least about the eldering lmao)

[rapid radish]

Ppl said there not seem to be hints about eldering in the lore and comics, but ofc maybe they are well hidden xD

[languid spoke]

maybe not hints to exactly how to elder. but everyone keeps bringing up "what do dragons do" etc, but then going off of lore from other genres (history, fantasy, games, etc) when we have our own lore

[rapid radish]

ohhh, now I see what you mean, that makes sense!

[languid spoke]

yea lol, just to try and help get the lore all together

[fast mason]

Has anyone made any progress in finding this out or are we still just as blind as day 1?

[wooden marsh]

pretty much we're still at day 1

[languid spoke]

like day 1 but some things are ruled out

https://tenor.com/view/maddenmobile-checkthepins-madden-pins-gif-21682468

[wooden marsh]

true some things have been eliminated so we're a bit further than 1st step

[stark geyser]

The only thing lore related that I can think of that we can actually see in the game is the craters. It's marked on the timeline that first one hit and then some time passed and then 2 hit. Plus the craters brought in the elementals which spearheaded the initial extinction of the dragons. So it either has something to do with Eldering or its part of some other mechanic altogether

[languid spoke]

i'm not referencing the lore just for what is specific in it, but for dragon behavior period. we keep sourcing what dragons "would do" or how they act from other sources (HTTYD, GoT, games, actual history, etc) instead of using how THESE dragons would act according to what we know of them from the game's lore

[stark geyser]

The only other thing I can think of, in regards to what you're saying Ealasaid, would be bringing back food to their young, and caring for their wounded, a fued between FS and IR, and they've also mentioned something about being ready for "trials"

[languid spoke]

yea, i need to reread all of them lol. get it fresh on my mind since the update is fresh too

[wooden marsh]

I've fed many babies, both my own and others. I don't think feeding the young is it

[stark geyser]

Here's where they mention the "trials"

[rapid radish]

Is there any other mentions of the trials?

[stark geyser]

I dont think there are any more mentions of it in the comic pages that are currently available

[compact sparrow]

the part of that which perks my interest is the talk of borders and how they are past them to prove themselves for the trials perhaps theres a hole in the world border somewhere?

[frail salmon]

Looks like a cave

Could there be a hidden cave we haven’t found yet?

[stark geyser]

The reason they are beyond the borders is because they're looking for a graveyard. Not sure why as ita not explained

[lime viper]

Lets all fly against the world border uwu def wont hurt to see right?

[compact sparrow]

theres a massive cave to the south somewhere facing the swamps that if you poke your head through the cliff wall there is a massive interior space

[stark geyser]

And them being there doesn't have to do with the trials. They're just trying to prove that they're ready for them. Maybe as a sign that they are grown enough and should be considered adults?

[lime viper]

The floor has hot looking areas so I guess they are prob on a different map where there are regions with different temperatures

[dawn pelican]

they did say a lot of caves are still closed off since they havnt been able to finnish them

[stark geyser]

Yes they are in Lava Lands I believe. Not even a place we can currently go

[wooden marsh]

this is true yes, Lusewing's video with the map guy told us this

possible there's something in those unfinished caves

[stark geyser]

Also, just to give everyone an easier time if they are trying to follow the scent theory, they only ever showed 4 different scent colors in the behind the scenes stuff on patreon. So I dont think there's a secret other one

Well I guess they didn't show the purple one 🤔 I kinda forgot about that one

And this was also from 2021.....

[rapid radish]

there's also orange one that means bleeding/dead dragon

[stark geyser]

Yeah forget what I said. Thought I was onto something

[lime viper]

So what we currently can do ingame (excluding pvp since elder is possible on pve servers)

• Drink
• Eat bugs or red shrooms
• Flying /Walking/ Swimming
• Nesting & Carry Hatchlings/Bugs
• Sniffing (water = blue, shroom = green, bug = purple, bleed/corpse = red or orange?)

Right?
There is nothing we can pick up at the moment besides the hatchings and bugs.

[wooden marsh]

exploring all options is a must

it does seem as though bugs & hatchies are the only things we can pickup yes. I've not seen anything else on the map yet

[rapid radish]

bug corpses are red, bleeding dragons/dead dragons are orange 🙂

[lime viper]

Yeah I think so too, multiple groups have gone thru the map to see if they find something to pick up

[lime viper]

Ahh good to know never looked what was what xD

[frail salmon]

Hmmm

[lime viper]

Tho I dont think the Devs want us to bully hatchlings by flying then around or dropping them hot from the sky for elder prog xD

[turbid copper]

Ahaha imagine : “YOU MUST COME WITH ME NOW”

[stark geyser]

But what about their first Jrakhonflight?! D:

[wooden marsh]

hmmm ok so picture the idea, running with that ball.
Fly above clouds and drop the hatchie to gain elder tick? 🤔

[lime viper]

Just drop the ASD hatchling from over the clouds

[turbid copper]

Rip

[languid trout]

“I have a very important quest. You are needed.”

[turbid copper]

Hahaha

[wooden marsh]

Do what must be done

[languid trout]

https://tenor.com/view/excited-anime-sparkle-shiny-eyes-gif-16535090

[lime viper]

POV: You just spawned in for the very first time, get instantly snatched up and dropped from the sky lol

[turbid copper]

Lmaooo

[languid spoke]

can you pick up ungrouped hatchies in PvP? cause you can't in PvE

[lime viper]

Have we tried sacrificing a bug to the crystals yet??

[turbid copper]

In pvp ye

[stark geyser]

"In the world of Jrakhon, every dragonling must learn to fly. It is not only tradition, but necessary for survival. Flight is as natural for the dragon as swimming is for the drake. Flight is a part of the dragon, a part of the wyvern, and a part of the amphithere, although they each teach their young in different ways. For most dragons, teaching their dragonlings to fly is a tradition, and it often happens soon after hatching because a flightless dragon in the world of Jrakhon is often a dead dragon. This is especially true for the Shadow Scale species.

Shadow Scale hatchlings are slow and clumsy, with cloaking their only defense. Shadow Scales will often take their young on their first flight moments after hatching out of the egg to help them learn to glide. Being natural fliers, Shadow Scales are able to glide and maneuver better than many other species, it is an ability that comes natural to them but still must be learned from a young age. They are also one of the fastest dragons known, with only a few species able to fly faster such as the Singe Crest and other smaller species.

The tradition of teaching hatchlings to fly is known as First Jrakhonflight. When a hatchling is born, one of the parents, often the father, will carry the hatchling to a very high elevation and then let them go. Hatchlings learn soon enough to use their wings as fear is a great motivator, and the alternative is often serious injury. Parents know the risk of jrakhonflight, but it is the only way to ensure their young survive in the harsh and unforgiving world of Jrakhon. The first jrakhonflight is an experience that all dragonlings remember throughout their lives. Whether being dropped at high altitudes or encouraged to jump and glide from a high cliff, each species has their traditions, their customs, and their instincts to guide them. It is what makes each species unique, it is what makes them dragons."

Idk how to quote text this is best I got

[rapid radish]

They did this to me when i was a baby asd and I prayed the old gods and the new that I won't die xD (bc I though they added that you can die from fall damage) It was a long drop to the lake xD

[stark geyser]

One of my friends did this to me too TuT

[rapid radish]

Want to guess? xD

[lime viper]

Probably has been done

Even if there is not much to do in the game it is so hard to figure out because we have tried so much already ahhh

[stark geyser]

Theres also this that talk about a 3 part quest line to obtain your last 3 mutation points. Much like how you would obtain them by eldering. Not sure if this is related or not

[lost lichen]

Did someone tried this?

[lime viper]

But I doubt there are any quest givers in game right now xD

[stark geyser]

Thats true, but it does mention going to certain locations that have significance to the species

[rapid radish]

When was this told and where, I have never seen this :p

[stark geyser]

Its in patreon from 2021

[rapid radish]

That is basically telling how to elder xD

[stark geyser]

Plus the three locations goes along with Jaos [redacted] quotes

[lime viper]

We have some significant locations at the moment but there is nothing in them. The big tree at the huge waterfalls stands out so much, but nothing there for example

[rapid radish]

but not sure if they actually implemented it

[fair turret]

What would have significance to a shadow scale?

[stark geyser]

Well, the forgotten forests were named by the ss? Thats the best I've got rn

[wooden marsh]

if it's from 2021 chances are it's something different now, because we're told that 25%, 50%, 75% & 100% are teh mutation points

[stark geyser]

Yeah thats highly possible. Or they could've changed some things but kept others

[rapid radish]

"Visiting certain ancient locations that have significance to your species history"

[lime viper]

I doubt that there are any hidden caves or NPCs in the map left

We had many groups go around the map looking for something

[wooden marsh]

yep seems that was describing the quests system they intend on adding

[rapid radish]

there's no NPC's yet

I guess I need to dive into the lore too xD

[stark geyser]

At the time of writing it though, it seemed like the questing was tied into eldering

[wooden marsh]

crazy how many little bits have been found that could be it, everyone is doing good research on this

[wooden marsh]

it does appear that way back then yes

[stark geyser]

Well, I mentioned first jrakhonflight ages ago but I think people were too focused on crystals to pay attention to it

[rapid radish]

Well a ss male needs to go yeet their freshly hatched hatcling then xD

The text says it's usually the father

[stark geyser]

"Usually" which means it could possibly also be the mother that does it

[lime viper]

Nahh thats way to specific I dont think the elder system is based on gender xD

[stark geyser]

Lol but it will be easier for the father to do it while the mother is on the nest, which will be easier to test since, if it doesn't work for the father, it won't work for the mother either

[wooden marsh]

perhaps it is, one method for male & another for the female

[rapid radish]

well ppl have been saying that the male doesn't really have a role in nesting xD Now he has xD

[wooden marsh]

bringing food isn't considered a role in nesting anymore?

[lime viper]

But then again we had plenty of people nesting and it is not giving the female elder prog so I personally think its not different from male/ female

[stark geyser]

Some do some dont and its not even possible with bio nests

[rapid radish]

"really have a role" is differnet than "no role at all" 😄

and i'm basing that only to a feedback I saw and many ppl agreeing to it 🤷‍♀️

[wooden marsh]

true Bio is the outlier on this one due to it being unable to carry food for it's young

but that said Bio doesn't elder

[pulsar swift]

You can incubate eggs as a male too tho

[stark geyser]

The argument wasn't about eldering though 😅 it was about males having a role in the nesting process

[rapid radish]

No you can't? 🤔

[pulsar swift]

As soon as the egg is laid the female can leave the nest and the male can sit and warm it in her place

[errant shard]

hi is it true that i accelerate eldering progress if i kill adults of my own kind?

[compact kindle]

Eggs incubate on a timer

[heady trench]

Pretty sure as soon as the egg appears, no one needs to sit on it anymore, it'll do the rest by itself

[compact kindle]

With or without someone sitting on the nest

[pulsar swift]

nobody knows

And I see, all the time I wasted yesterday sitting on those eggs reee

[stark geyser]

Pretty sure this has been tested and is a no

[errant shard]

thx

so atm no other known way beside 12h tics??

[stark geyser]

That is correct. We're still trying to test stuff

[errant shard]

i appreciate your reply buddy

[stark geyser]

Np

imagine JohnDoe85 secretly being Jao and gaging how far we are in figuring out the eldering system

[stray hawk]

johndoe is the name for unidentified ppl- 😂

[errant shard]

exactly

[stark geyser]

He didn't deny it!

[rapid radish]

Our current theories can be found in a documendt that is pinned in this discussion ^^

[errant shard]

there we go... thx

im old 😄

[stark geyser]

Ah yeah it probably would've been more helpful to point to the pinned message. Forgot that was there

[errant shard]

no u r fine... im grateful for your answers. im the problem cause sometimes i lose track on discord functions

[stark geyser]

[frail salmon]

This must be releated to eldering

[lime viper]

I have dropped several babies from the sky and nothing so far xD

[rapid radish]

have they been yours? 😄

or rrelated to you at all? 😄

[stark geyser]

Maybe we've gotta read in-between the lines a bit? Like how flying is as narutal to the dragons as swimming is to the drakes? just throwing stuff at the wall here

[frail salmon]

The quote mentions that it gotta be yours and that you must be a male/father

[stark geyser]

It didn't actually say "must" just that traditionally it was usually the father

Often* sorry

[lime viper]

yeah own hatchlings and normal spawns

[lime viper]

tried running and swimming a lot with ASD :c nothing so far

[stark geyser]

So perhaps first jrakhonflight isn't it. But maybe something else that has to do with tradition? That seems to be a theme in a lot of the lore so far

[sly cedar]

Did anyone ever test my dumb little idea of having a full group of same species dragons?

[stark geyser]

What does full group even mean? And wouldnt make make it impossible to get elder solo?

[sly cedar]

Technically yes. Yesterday people were saying that the devs wanted it to be more social, so I suggested someone try just having a full group, NOT CLAN, of same species of dragons. That's social. Lol

[stark geyser]

I thought they were just referring to wanting the game itself to be more social 🤔

[sly cedar]

They might be. I was just throwing out ideas lol. We're desperate for anything ya know?

[stark geyser]

And how much is a full group? Depending on how many that is, that would also make it impossible on smaller private servers that don't have many players even if they were all working together

[sly cedar]

I think it's 10?

[turbid prawn]

Ye 10

[stark geyser]

Yeah I personally don't think thats it. Seems to easy and doesn't sound grindable

[sly cedar]

If something as precise as fully growing a nested Iconic dragon without logging unlocks a skin, who know how precise Eldering could be now...

[sly cedar]

Fair

[prisma mirage]

Imma laugh if we actually did figure it out and we just don't know it because it's bugged and doesn't work I was searching a lot yesterday

[stark geyser]

You can laugh, I'll be crying in the corner

[prisma mirage]

Laughing and crying

[stark geyser]

Lol ok that I guess I could do

[fast mason]

I doubt t it has anything to so with groupplay or hatchlings... that wouldn't be very accessible.

No it has to be something literally anyone could theoretically do even alone.

What about, and this sounds silly, but what about flight time? I was told before the deva were trying to cut back on camping, what if you gain ticks over time being above a certain elevation?

Second wind as a mechanic doesn't offer very much for combat, and seems kinda weird to put out now instead of when they redo flight mechanics... maybe? Has anyone actually tried?

[stark geyser]

What about acid spitters?

[fast mason]

Aaaaah true

Earth puppies

[prisma mirage]

I just think it's a little suspicious that we haven't figured it out yet with how little content we have right now. There isn't much to go off of. And it makes me wonder if it's just bugged.

[stark geyser]

I think they added second wind just so you can get extra flight time and reach the clouds easier. I dont think it has to do with eldering specifically

[fast mason]

I literally have no idea then. The map has been scoured pixel for pixel. There's nothing there to interact with. It's not location based. Crystals do nothing.

I have no idea.

[fast mason]

This tbh

[deft drift]

maybe u get elder by making babys and helping them grow what i mean by this is you nest someone in and you have to be in group with them until they reach adulthood

That feels elder like xD

[stark geyser]

Its probably just as simple yet complex as unlocking mela is. I would've never guessed you unlocked it by growing iconic in one sitting (plus I'd never try since I already have it permanently unlocked)

[prisma mirage]

Then I would have had many elders by now xD

If all I had to do was raise children by staying in group.

[deft drift]

yeah sorry maybe not

[pulsar swift]

no no, pitch in every idea, no matter how far fetched it may sound

[stark geyser]

I'm pretty sure all nesting and hatchling related theories have been disproven at this point?

[prisma mirage]

No it's okay! We are all brainstorming so it was a good thought!

[pulsar swift]

Lets all figure out we get elder ticks by flying towards the moon or something

[stark geyser]

I think that was tested already too -u-;

[pulsar swift]

its fine, its bugged, might be fixed for 1.0.1 or 1.0.10

[prisma mirage]

The only time I gotten a tick was bc it's been 12 hrs. I've tested and tried literally all that I could think of. I'm stumped.

[deft drift]

my friend has 1,3% elder

But you get passive tiks every 12 hours correct?

[pulsar swift]

Official or private server?

And what dragon

[deft drift]

they are a ss on frozen kingdom which i think is a offical since its red in the menu

[pulsar swift]

you get passive ticks every 12 hours but 1.3% doesnt line up with any known % so far

Should be official if its red yeah

[prisma mirage]

Could you imagine him changing it bc we couldn't figure it out and he said something like "oh it was the crystals" like oh so it was just bugged got it, now to start over and figure out the new one

[pulsar swift]

It might be rounded up tho

[deft drift]

Have they given any clues?

[stark geyser]

Well if thats the case, at least we have a whole list of things to retry

[prisma mirage]

This is true.

[pulsar swift]

Also: "Grindable, non-campable, more dragony than eating mushrooms."

[rapid radish]

Also check the pins of this channel ^^

[prisma mirage]

And something about Jedi

[deft drift]

Intresting

[pulsar swift]

not having heard the exact quote I think it was a reference to Star Wars Galaxies from what I've heard from others

[pearl root]

Just get the High Ground?

[rapid radish]

that wasn't a hint per se, he just used the jedi unlock as an example

[stark geyser]

I think the thing about jedi just means he doesn't want to "spoil" the fun of figuring it out ourselves

[deft drift]

This is pain not fun

[prisma mirage]

Gotchya

Welp xD

[stark geyser]

Now what would actually be helpful if it is a multi step process, is if we got some kind of notification, like a sound or a pop-up message, that tells us we're "getting closer" or something

[pulsar swift]

if not that, atleast something of a hint

[deft drift]

For real

[pulsar swift]

Are we looking for an object, supposed to do an activity?

[prisma mirage]

"You sense a strong force near by" or something

[deft drift]

yeah a new hit to point us towards it would nice

[minor hinge]

1 Traditional Jedi trials
1.1 Trial of Skill
1.2 Trial of Courage
1.3 Trial of the Flesh
1.4 Trial of the Spirit
1.5 Trial of Insight

[rapid radish]

no one knows 😄

[languid spoke]

are we going back to the jedi stuff?

[pulsar swift]

1.0.0 has been out for 10 days tomorrow right, and we've not even left first base for this

[languid spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/circle-marriage-love-like-a-circle-never-ends-gif-12894046

[prisma mirage]

I'm spinning like a ballerina

[stark geyser]

Well the only reason we haven't found second base is because we're blindfolded. Even if we had found it, we wouldn't have known

[pulsar swift]

Maybe we can lift the blindfold for a split second, see where we are

[deft drift]

Xd

[pine mica]

Dragons like treasures. Maybe this is what is needed?

[pulsar swift]

where do we find it then?

[languid spoke]

not sure DoD dragon lore mentions treasures

[prisma mirage]

The only "treasure" I can think of is the crystals

[deft drift]

When will the worms be added maybe it has something with defeating them lol?

[languid spoke]

again, we can't use dragon lore that doesn't apply to DoD lol, we need to use the lore Jao made

[stark geyser]

No it has to be something we can currently accomplish

[pulsar swift]

Elder pearls could count as "treasure" so it'd make sense in those terms, if elder pearls even exist

[deft drift]

yeah prolly ur right

[rapid radish]

btw salad (sorry I had to xD), I started reading the lore posts from the start 😄

[languid spoke]

i've been skimming them whilst at work

[pulsar swift]

I did that earlier too but I didnt find anything noteworthy

[rapid radish]

I'm doing it also, bc I have never read them ^^

[pulsar swift]

Been spending the last 3 hours flying around, landing at odd places in elder forest, sniffing, checked the cliffs in the southwest

[languid spoke]

it may not even be anything that stands out at first. it could be the simplest behavior, action, note about their history

[lime viper]

brother if at some point we get an patch and we magically figure it out afterwards I am sure they changed it in secret during the patch

so if we cant figure it out till the next patch I say 100% it will get changed LMAO

[pulsar swift]

Next patch should be in 3 days tho

[languid spoke]

soft date on the patches

[turbid copper]

Who said that

[languid spoke]

everyone

including Jao, because things can push them back

[turbid copper]

I mean about the date

[lime viper]

There were some delays again

[snow furnace]

i tried doing it 1v1 with someone. it didnt work. but we had some issues. on the same species he was just a fresh adult with no elder prog. The other one was a diff species. we tried a 2 and 4 call interaction with no result. but i also feel like my current elder prog is glitched. this is still worth to try again with more people.

[pulsar swift]

hence should, I know blitz might be delayed

[turbid copper]

Oh that patch

[lime viper]

So yeah we have 3 days lads if we really get a patch then hahah

[prisma mirage]

Full speed ahead

[rapid radish]

did you do targeting while doing the 2 and 4 calls? 🙂

[bold tusk]

We need another dev talk for hints

[lime viper]

I think we dont have a system atm and they just keeping us on our toes

[bold tusk]

No one ask anything except for hints of elder

Lmao

[rapid radish]

the whole Q&A; redacted redacted redacted xD

[prisma mirage]

Either that or it's straight up bugged and no one can report on it since we don't even know what it is.

[stark geyser]

I dont want them to get upset with us and end it early though :<

[languid spoke]

it's just so redacted that it's redacted ya know

[bold tusk]

They made elder why would they be upset

[pulsar swift]

I am honestly getting more and more convinced its nonexistent

[lime viper]

probably hahaha

[rapid radish]

But maybe someone could ask if Jao is sure that the elder mechanism isn't bugged, that he has double checked?

[stark geyser]

Because it can be a bit annoying and stressful if a bunch of people are just constantly pestering you over and over again with the same question

[lime viper]

It do be like: just give them some very vague hints... we will patch elder prog in at some point lmao

[snow furnace]

yes

[bold tusk]

I mean. They can just ask to not ask anymore questions about it. They made elder to be annoying to us anyways xD which is good but still

[fast mason]

Is the lore avaliable for free?

[prisma mirage]

Like out of all the bugs we have in the game, it wouldn't be a surprise if the eldering system is bugged as well

[fast mason]

Or paid only?

[minor hinge]

hits the trials

[languid spoke]

free

[bold tusk]

Yea it's somewhere here

[languid spoke]

scroll up some i linked it

[minor hinge]

all i got

[fast mason]

OK ty

[rapid radish]

free

[pulsar swift]

#lore-library

[lime viper]

At this point I am sure elder is either buggy af or it is not in yet lol

Well just passive progs ingame

[turbid copper]

[rapid radish]

or it's like the weather; in but not activated

[lime viper]

Someone forgot to turn it on

[pulsar swift]

In that case the devs didnt really lie

[rapid radish]

thta's what I believe 😄

exactly 😄

[pulsar swift]

Active eldering is in the game. Its just not activated

[turbid copper]

Someone needs to press the red button

[rapid radish]

So the question should be "Have you activated the active eldering system"

[lime viper]

Tho if they have it not activ and not telling us... I would be super mad lol

[pulsar swift]

they're gonna blame the intern, 100%

[lime viper]

Imagine searching 10+ days every day for elder and then the devs come and be like "here is the new patch, btw elder prog is activated now :) enjoy"

not the intern!!

:(

[prisma mirage]

Then why would they say if no one can figure it out then they will change it? They expect us to find out without actually finding it? XD

[lime viper]

maybe yes

xD

cover it up

[pulsar swift]

would they really change it?

[prisma mirage]

That is what he said he will do

[pulsar swift]

I thought we were gonna get another hint if we took too long

[lime viper]

Rather than give another hint, change it again so we have to try everything again

one way to keep us busy

[prisma mirage]

He did that with the mela skin when no one could figure out how to unlock it

[turbid copper]

We have no hints

[fast mason]

I think it was stated pretty plainly that is in the game so like I think we honestly are just missing it

[pulsar swift]

if its just gonna get changed the point of this is moot, back to logging in twice a day

[fast mason]

But in the lore is there literally nothing it speaks of elders doing differently? Some trial they had to overcome or...?

[pulsar swift]

technically, "its in the game" should classify as a hint

[pulsar swift]

@fast mason one single mention of trials

[turbid copper]

Well yea that way you know it’s in, but nothing about it

[prisma mirage]

Hint my booty.

[limber valve]

That’s why it doesn’t make me think that the eldering is active. I know I’ve said it plenty before but we’ve honestly tried what feels like everything. And instead of giving a hint, he’s going to change an entire mechanic? How does that make sense?

[pulsar swift]

it really dont make sense

[prisma mirage]

Bc it's Jao

[fast mason]

What a out drinking from a certain water source? Is there like a special lake? What about the pond by the big tree?

[fast mason]

Idk maybe it's not simple like we thought. Maybe it literally is just too difficult.

[limber valve]

“It’s in the game” also isn’t a hint because he also said Weathers in the game but it’s “deactivated” so essentially the same could be said for eldering

[prisma mirage]

I have gulped every water source I could find my friend

[stark geyser]

I think we've tried drinking from every major water source already

[fast mason]

Sadge

I love magic water tropes

[limber valve]

Realistically it shouldn’t be this difficult with a game that only has so much to do

[lime viper]

yeah that is also what I am thinking

[fast mason]

Yeah I've flown the whole map over a bunch and haven't seen anything that stands out other than crystal caves, the tree, ice mountain, and uhhh idk something else.

[rapid radish]

So back to my favourite theory; Jao will spawn in as a princess and we need to either kidnap him or save him xD

[deft drift]

xD

[lime viper]

the only thing that sstands out for me is that some of the lakes have no water at the ground so you can sit there lol

yes ofc I did went on a swim with ASD to see if that gives a prog

[fast mason]

Right but maybe they put in like... idk a golden bug that only spawns in an obscure part of the map once every 4 hours on a full moon on a rainy night and they were like "yeah this is great" and now realize no shot anyone figures that out lol

That's what I mean

[deft drift]

Maybe theres some kind of a underwater cave we need to find?

[pulsar swift]

3 craters, one single one twin craters. Ravine. The "jaw" that sticks out outside the map in southwest corner. Several caves. Several lakes. Cherry blossoms in the central lake with pink fireflies, pink fireflies also found at another edge island.

[fast mason]

Maybe it's too difficult

[rapid radish]

that is campable tho

[turbid copper]

That would work only for asd

[rapid radish]

but only drakes can dive

[limber valve]

If that is the case why wouldn’t he give a hint and change it instead? It just doesnt make sense to my brain

[lime viper]

I tried looking in the bigger lakes but it is impossible to see under water lol

[past drum]

night vision let you see underwater, fly above with night vison on

[fast mason]

Idk honestly. They should just come out and tell us. It's gotta be staring us right in the face.

It can't be pvp related bc pve servers exist.

[rapid radish]

Not tell us completely, but a hint or a riddle would be nice 😄

[lime viper]

yeah but if you dive down with asd it gets muddy, at some point night vision doesnt work that deep

[past drum]

true

[fast mason]

Wait if it's not campable...

So

Then like

[limber valve]

I want more than anything to be wrong and that it really is in the game but with most of our efforts exhausted, and what’s been stated by Jao changing it instead of a hint, I worry we’re exhausting brain power and actual motivation for something that’s not even active lol

[fast mason]

Wtf.

What could it possibly be

[stray hawk]

What I'm seeing is: we've exhausted all of our options, and without any information to push us in the right direction the search is almost pointless. We need something to get us moving, or to know if the system is even active outside of passive ticks. The info we've gathered so far is non-coherent and non-replicable by others when someone makes a sudden jump in progress.
(And in a game that only has so much to do at that)
It's a wild goose chase, while blindfolded and spun around 10 times to be dizzy first.

[limber valve]

I’d be more than happy to eat my words and be proven wrong though 🤷🏻‍♀️

[short pine]

Could be something that you obtain through normal gameplay means, A clientside spawn, Or a random spawn event or item. It's unfortunately not easy to pin down, but there are options.

I would absolutely rather have a hint be given than the method changed, but I feel if we aren't anywhere close we should get a hint sooner. Would be nice for everyone trying so hard.

[limber valve]

But that’s the thing, instead of giving us something, he wants to just change it. whyyyy- I completely agree

[lime viper]

I dont think there is enough coding right now for any kind of clientside events or random spawn events xD

[pulsar swift]

What Frosty said, I think we've collectively tried every single "grindable" feature in the game. Its a 16x16km map but we are a lot of people flying around looking for the tooth fairy here and without any actual information we're not gonna manage a single step forward

[pulsar swift]

It wouldnt take that much code, but it should be WAY easier to discover in that case.

Definitely shouldnt be like playing escape room while blindfolded and handcuffed

[bold tusk]

I think a mechanic that would introduce elder. Not making it easy but some steps in game to actually feel like you are getting closer to where you need to go

[limber valve]

I mean, as well with all the delays and not even skins are working properly for all dragons, doesn’t give me confidence that the eldering is finished.

[unborn ice]

I honestly don’t think it’s in rn and there going to release it one day and not tell Anyone

[turbid copper]

Well, cya next patch y’all

[limber valve]

I’m leaning towards that his mention of “changing it” on the 1.0.1 patch is actually them just implementing it.

[stray hawk]

id say the active search goes on hold, and passive it until the patch or next dev QnA

[turbid copper]

I thought of this too

[pulsar swift]

I say we all just stage a protest and cease investigating active eldering until the devs actually tell us something tanglible

[unborn ice]

Yeah I’d say every patch maybe try again but if you really think about how many things they actually got done. I don’t think eldering was one of them. Especially since they want it to be way cooler than the old way

[prisma mirage]

What if this whole time, saying that it is in the game, he meant the passive ticks just to troll us? bc technically he wouldn't be wrong

[short pine]

Taking breaks and rests to avoid getting burnt out is important, and the Dev QnA might help a lot next time we get one.

[pulsar swift]

Whatever happens, happens. you get 1.5% as a SS? Meh

[turbid yoke]

slams head on the theory board yeah I guess we’ll put in on hold

[turbid copper]

Broo fr

[bold tusk]

He said other than passive ticks tho

[limber valve]

Yeah but at this point I don’t believe him lol

[bold tusk]

Lol

[limber valve]

Weather is also in the game but deactivated so

[turbid copper]

Well, bravo six, abort mission, I repeat, abort mission

[stray hawk]

ive also went around in my friends n i's comm server in spec mode n snuffed out the map to no prevail of any objects or notable finds

[pulsar swift]

In that case we can proudly present our answer to the devs right

The answer to active eldering is: Not implemented

[sly cedar]

If we just all give up and stop searching for it.. maybe he will give us a hint. If your player base is actively quitting a core mechanic due it it not being known, even when you say it's in the game... that doesn't look good imo. Gw2 gives hints in how to find their collectibles(scavenger hunts) across all their maps. Some are easy to find. Others are harder, but if you know a bit of the lore of the world and carefully use your eyes, you can usually find the item or thing. In this we have little lore, limited to little in interactive objects, and barely a guide of any kind.

Yes I'm getting frustrated too, but I'm starting not to like this...

[turbid copper]

Yehh, I played gw2 too

[fresh marsh]

He might be changing it because he doesn't like it as much as he thought he would and got better ideas from our testing

[sly cedar]

Then you've seen their collections. The ones that require you to find things across teh maps? Sometimes, not always, each item listed will give you a very brief hint saying where it could be. And if you know your way around those maps and recognize locations even by keywords, you can typically find the thing. And I actually enjoy that feelign when I find it by not using the wiki haha.

[turbid copper]

Exactly this

[fresh marsh]

I can't imagine the method was tested a whole lot since some of the devs don't even know what it is, so might have been something good in theory but not as good in practice

[sly cedar]

That feels probable

[bold tusk]

What are all the hints he gave again?

Or he gave absolutely nothing yet?

[turbid copper]

There’s none

[bold tusk]

;_;

[turbid copper]

[sly cedar]

This is an example taken from Gw2 Wiki to find an item called "Staff of the Lost." It's an achievement or "collection" liek I've been saying. To aquire it you must find all teh required items. as you can see, each item displays INGAME a hint of where it can be found, but it's not direct. Only for a specific location, but not specific enough inside that location. 🙂 You still need to explore that spot and "know"the rooms it could be referring to. It makes you use your brain to recall where you may have already been and what matches that description.

[bold tusk]

There is a hint

[sly cedar]

THAT is a hint on how to find something that points you in a direciton, but the res tis up to you. IN DoD rn.. we literall yhave NOTHING.

[bold tusk]

"You feel stronger"

[turbid copper]

This or the things you need to do to unlock the mounts

[bold tusk]

Jkjkjk

[sly cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/pikachu-in-serious-mood-pikachu-serious-pikachu-thunderbolt-glare-gif-20152341

lol

[bold tusk]

Lmao

[turbid copper]

Lmaoo

[bold tusk]

What if you kill something after getting a tick

[turbid copper]

Nah

[bold tusk]

Whoever sleeps the longest gets elder lmao

[pulsar swift]

In Elite we had some players that thought an audio file that sounded sus and found it. Led us to a specific system where we heard a different static from everywhere else. Then went on from there to identify thargoids after a month

[turbid copper]

[pulsar swift]

Actually have we tested that? Dragons are usually hibernating after all

According to the doc its been tested yeah

[last minnow]

why do these things get sent here, they have nothing to do with elder theorys😭

[proper imp]

sorry i see everyone here as the best of this discord i need to vent my sadness for this post

[sly cedar]

I pointed out to other players late one night that on Bio Island there is what sounds like something burning. It only plays during the day though and it's not consistent, but it's continuos enough. After staying around that spot enough and trying blowing fire on my fs, landing on some rocks, not really knowing what else to do though... I gave up and pinned it for weird audio for the wind blowing the cherry blossom leaves. :/ But it still sounds weird for leaves blowing if oyu ask me.

I even briefly streamed it and others acknowledged it, but it never took off. lol

[fresh marsh]

it sounds to me like wind through tree branches

i flew over there when you were talking about it but it was night so i had to wait a while to hear it, then forgot to respond when i finally did

[sly cedar]

proabably. The snapping noise it what makes me think it's more liek burning sounds than the snapping of a branch or something lol

[fresh marsh]

the trees out here sound almost exactly like the sound effect, i would have thought it was burning if i still lived in arizona lmao

[minor hinge]

what about the pink tree is there any more around the map

that just ideal i had

but dint some say thay saw pink leaf in ef

[pulsar swift]

none that I've seen and I feel like I've been everywhere

[bleak python]

For the past couple of days; me and a few others have been hearing thunder and storm sounds while on Lil Snowy. Not sure what this means but I was standing in the area on the ridge where the redwoods turn into green grass. And others have heard it while flying over/near it. Not sure if it has anything to do with Elder but if anyone can replicate it please lmk. As for time of day; it was Daylight.

Could be a dev messing around on Blitz striker but idk seems weird.

[minor hinge]

and why the dragon head on map

[prisma mirage]

I bit the bullet and put in my feedback

[last minnow]

according to jao it works

as said in their discord qna

[prisma mirage]

Hmm

[fresh marsh]

ill check this out do you have coordinates?

[bleak python]

No but I can get a picture of where I was; super easy to find.

[prisma mirage]

Tested in the test server or the actual game. Because they are very different when it comes to issues lol

[last minnow]

devs have their own priv build so i assume it was tested there

[bleak python]

It was just turning night when I heard it; but someone I know just heard it now and it is pure daylight.

[last minnow]

oh so the new snow cap?

[minor hinge]

that by para aks ML

[fresh marsh]

ok i think i found the spot

[prisma mirage]

I just remember when they didn't believe us for awhile when fs came into legacy and no one could get any A stats. And he finally looked into it and it turned out it was bugged.

[last minnow]

thats different i feel

[bleak python]

Was just walking around up there when I heard it while I was waiting on someone to meet me there. It was DEAFENINGLY loud when I heard it. And super out of place.

[pulsar swift]

I am standing on that ridge atm, I'm hearing what sounds like wind, no thunderstorm sounds tho

[bleak python]

It COULD be a Dev messing around on Blitz, however, I never experienced that when I saw the dev on molten on blitz and it 1 called. It never sounded like what I had heard.

[bleak python]

I was up there for maybe 15-20 minutes

[prisma mirage]

Eh I honestly have lowered my standards and I'm not at all surprised by anything anymore. I just think it's a little suspicious with what little we have to work with and still haven't found it.

[fresh marsh]

i think its entirely possible its not in and they dont want to rock the boat too much and havent admitted it, but im going to keep trying random things and give them the benefit of the doubt

[prisma mirage]

I am more than willing to swallow my words if it's not actually bugged and it's actually there. I just wish they would drop hints instead of just straight up changing it in a few days if we can't figure it out

Because then it just looks like they are covering it up

[last minnow]

jao had all the time in the world to admit it in a qna but they said its ingame

as it was never in the patch notes, it was more of speculation in the beginning

[prisma mirage]

Jao has a reputation of sorts let's be honest

Been here for years and seen it all

[fresh marsh]

im just saying its possible its not in, but until we know for sure, im going to behave like it is, doesnt bother me too much either way

[prisma mirage]

True true

[fresh marsh]

ive had fun trying to figure it out

[prisma mirage]

I'm still looking myself

[bold tusk]

The way to elder would not be in the patch notes.
I guess a mention of it would ;;

So idk

[last minnow]

hey, jao said they were gonna change it if it wasnt figured out so my guess is that its ingame

[fresh marsh]

would be bummed if it were all for nothing, but that wont take the fun i had away

[prisma mirage]

Why change it though to start over? All our hard work to find it, only to start over again?

It doesn't make sense

And kinda a bad look

[last minnow]

maybe they mean they will make it easier lol

[prisma mirage]

At least a hint before changing it

[fresh marsh]

like i said before it might be a method he though sounded good, but didnt translate well into game mechanics

or its something we have tried and its not working very well

[last minnow]

its possible that it could be something that only jao would ever understand to do, which is why its getting changed

[bold tusk]

I want the elder system to be hard, but not entirely lost unless you have to gain some sort of ingame knowledge about elders in order to even start. But there hasn't been any clues outside of you getting stronger from dailies

[prisma mirage]

We are going in blind

[bleak python]

The other person who heard it was being flown over the mountain. Not sure exactly where they were being flown over at. If that helps at all. It's twice now that it's been heard on BM server, though!

[bold tusk]

Exactly 🥲 which is fine but not even pve people gotten some sort of unique prompt

[prisma mirage]

Nothing

[fresh marsh]

cool, im still chilling here, ill let you know if i hear it or get impatient and stop listening

[bleak python]

You will know when you hear it; when I say it's deafening I mean its DEAFENING.

[prisma mirage]

I don't mind going in blind to start, it can be fun but when we have exhausted all our ideas and can't come up with anything else, it's no longer fun imo

[bleak python]

It nearly sent me 5ft out of my chair it was so loud lol

[bold tusk]

You said a lightning strike?

Or thunder

[last minnow]

its possible its just an audio box left behind

but again, its worth investigation

[bleak python]

Thunder, wind, lightning, and rain sounds. It was like a storm had literally appeared and then disappeared in a matter of seconds. It sounded like I was in a hurricane ngl.

[bold tusk]

Could be an npc spawn

But then it despawns

[bleak python]

It scared me SO badly

[bold tusk]

So you would have to find it very quickly

[bleak python]

Maybe but I didn't see anything in my shaking and near screaming LOL

[last minnow]

LOL

but really tho, it kinda does make abit of sense for maybe the way to elder being something like a thunderstorm, as those are powerful in many ways

[fresh marsh]

yesterday i was insane enough to check a lot of places with FS heat vision in case there were invisible bugs or something, so waiting on a mountain is way more chill lol

[bleak python]

you know how loud the water gets when you get into it

its louder than that

way louder

but like i said it very well could of been a dev playing blitz striker ; ive seen them doing it on molten mountain

but again when they 1 called it didnt sound like that at all

[last minnow]

theres more calls then a 1 call

so it could have been a different one

[bleak python]

the 1 call for blitz is the one that summons the lightning strike tho isnt it?

[last minnow]

isnt that the ability?

[bleak python]

no the ability is the stun

[last minnow]

it could be 3 call

or maybe it is 1 call

[bleak python]

1 call is broadcast 3 is friendly

[last minnow]

i keep forgetting i changed that

i meant 2 call

[stark geyser]

Has anyone checked to see if they can hear the sound with a bio? Because if you can, doesn't that rule out the sound being tied to eldering?

[bleak python]

That's a good idea!

[fresh marsh]

bio would still probably hear it even if it were tied to eldering, just not grow from it

[stark geyser]

I suppose that's possible too

[fresh marsh]

or do the next step or what have you

[stark geyser]

If you can hear it, its possible either or. But if you cant then its probably a definite yes that its tied

[limber valve]

Exactly what I’ve been saying 🫠

[heavy ridge]

I'm one of the folks making maps, if you wrote any of it down, could you hook me up?

[languid spoke]

same, lol, i only started it sunday tho

[bold tusk]

Hey if anyone hears the thunder stuff or rain storms, do two at a time in snowy to see if it's client side. If it is client side there may be a clue

[fresh marsh]

i still havent heard anything, and i dont have another account or a friend on the server to sit with me

[heavy ridge]

Have we tried getting knocked below a health threshold, giving the surrender call, and then not dying?
Nice and rp, not something people actually normally do, multiple steps.

[fresh marsh]

its finally night time on my server and i still havent heard any storm sounds

[heavy ridge]

It's strange to me how the day/night cycle is so long

[bold tusk]

I like it

[fresh marsh]

me too

[bold tusk]

Not use to it tho xD

This might also be a stretch. But is there a unique way from looking from island, snowy, crystal caves (caves that has crystals) although I doubt it because those caves are easily camped

The only real place that isn't viable to anyone is snowy or somewhere on the edges of the map. So people can't necessarily camp.
The Map is also unfinished. But I doubt snowy is ever going to be a clan spot except for maybe one of the mountains

[compact kindle]

I sit on the snow peaks constantly, its where I like to idle

[bleak python]

Thing is; it may have already happened for the day for your server. It could be a once a day kind of thing or a once every couple of days.

[fresh marsh]

i know, and im still here, just updating you

[compact kindle]

Storm sounds?

Has storms been added into the game?

[deft drift]

ir bite is stronger then fs correct?

[compact kindle]

About the same

[rough root]

Hello hello all! Just going thrugh the chat today, see what might have cropped up, so on!

[fresh marsh]

either its a random bug, or you ahve to do something to trigger it that im not doing, still havent heard anything

[pulsar swift]

TLDR: We gave up, back to breeding or pvp

[bold tusk]

its stronger

Ir bite is stronger than FS.

FS bites faster

IR bite does more pierce and damage.

[fresh marsh]

i havent given up and am still willing to test random theories im just not creative enough to come up with my own from scratch

[rough root]

I've seen bug corpses as orange. Bleeding dragons as orange and dead dragons as red myself xD

[fresh marsh]

ive seen the reverse, dead bugs have been red for me

and the one time i saw orange led me to a hatchling corpse with an adult dragon standing over it

[bleak python]

It very well could of been an audio bug with a dev being on Blitz

[compact kindle]

Is it? Last I was testing they hit eachother about the day, that was day 2 launch tho

[naive otter]

I've even tried sleeping as IR to see if that would help since some dragons do tend to sleep for long periods of time

[fresh marsh]

i heard the big man himself say IR is king of melee

[compact kindle]

Checks out in fs vs IR the IR definately wings, they take zero fire damage but FS still does

Wins* lol wings

[bold tusk]

If they are close to damage values that is because one has better armor than the other, or rather the opposites of armor and health. But IR does a lot more damage

[naive otter]

This was a theory I tried because dragons sleep to slow down their metabolism rate or what I'd like assume but it would be cool if that actually had an effect in game but doesn't

[pulsar swift]

I thought about the same earlier but according to the sheet its been tested in some variations aswell, like sleeping in the crystal caves

[naive otter]

Yeah I just tried to act as natural as I could to being a dragon which included sleeping at night or resting. Still got plenty to theorize and figure out. But we can do this! I won't give up

(Even did the 1 call as I fly through the sky and nothing worked)

[bold tusk]

how many days till theres a release of 1.01

?

[pulsar swift]

2-3 depending on timezones

if it release as scheduled anyway

[stray hawk]

That’s not enough time

[lime viper]

I wonder if the "Many new game mechanics and features" on update 1.0.0 has to do with eldering or what mechanics did get added?

[fresh marsh]

theres also this to keep in mind #development-news message

[bold tusk]

prob

[hazy mural]

I know you Can get eldering tick every 12 hours but i don’t quite thats the new part, but maybe you have to go find shinny rocks or maybe it’s still shrooms

[languid spoke]

no mushrooms

Jao has said they are not part of eldering anymore

[stray notch]

soooo whatsup with eldering guys?!

[barren cave]

Well, the only thing we know for sure atm, is that the system was made to make people trying to understand it go insane 👍

jk btw, but that's how it feels

[compact kindle]

Mood

[sly cedar]

There should be ingame hint text messages or SOMETHING. If there's a "you feel stronger" and then you grow a bit... there should be something like, "you feel the skies call to you" if it involved something flying. "Jrakhon's crystals whisper secrets of power to you..." and then maybe you stay by them longer. SOME KIND OF NOTIFICATION THAT WE ARE ACHIEVING SOMETHING... ;_;

[languid trout]

That kinda hint would be amazing and add feeling to it

[somber shuttle]

Im having a hard time believing its acutally in the game at this point lmao Ive checked every inch of the map and NOTHING stands out or gives progress. With a community this big of people looking and trying to figure it out, someone should have gotten it by now

[languid trout]

Same Athena

[sly cedar]

And then put it in system messages chat tab so that we can see it if we miss it on screen.... if it fades away. I've noticed that when I get my passive elder ticks I will see the "...stronger" messages but thr growth percentage is not instant. It takes like a minute or two to show in my bar.

If we are doing some long distance journey/questline across the map that requires like say from Big Rock to Misty and then to Bio Island... but we get side tracked and go to Arch instead midway, at least give me a notice of what I am doing right AS I ACCOMPLISH THE STEPS. You don't need to say where I went wrong, I can probabaly figure that out via the silence... but when you reinforce something positive at the time you reach that checkpoint, it will instill the drive to keep going.... just give us something... otherwise we could actually be doing the right thing, right now trying to figure it out and we keep making wrong turns along the way... but how will we even know we are ont he right path from the start? :/

And who's to say the "questline" to figuring it out doesn't keep reseting on us the moment we mess it up? Just like the Mela unlock requirement... one log out and I guess it's messed up? Try again?

I still hold a skin unlock "figure it out game" on a different level compared to Elder status though...

Sorry for my rant......

Just seeing how hard everyone is working to figure out this mechanic, with zero leads on it, limited interactive objects, a deadline threatening that it will be changed if we don't figure it out in time... and nobody essentially still has nothing since it was implemented...

It is very disheartening.

[languid trout]

I’m sure many have given up already

[somber shuttle]

Seeing how quiet this chat has become, I think so. Its just a waiting game now to see what the devs say

[sinful tulip]

Maybe only an elder can unlock it for others? So maybe you have to passive tic for a fg elder for it to unlock something

[sly cedar]

Are you then saying that we will need to wait over 50-100days for the passive ticks to complete an elder cycle to unlock it for others? Like on the bigger dragons?

[radiant mirage]

Do we have any leads??

[sinful tulip]

I've no idea, just a thought process tbh. It'd only be the initial 50-100 days, since then you'd have a elder for it to unlock w/e it is that could possibly give it out.

(Maybe only elder flame/spit can activate crystals or something, I don't know I'm just thinking about it)

[sly cedar]

I love that Hazbin Hotel pfps are filling up my discords. WHEEZE

[sinful tulip]

Me too xD

[radiant mirage]

xD

[sinful tulip]

Anyway, that's my current thought on it. I'm hoping not, but that's about the only thing I CAN think of that could be it since we've scoured the map over and over again.

[fresh marsh]

i havent given up, im just better at testing and altering existing theories

not coming up with fresh ones

[radiant mirage]

I mean.. all I have for info is a few screenshots..

[sinful tulip]

If it were something only an elder could unlock for other dragons, they'd have to make elder progress from it mean more

[radiant mirage]

Which have either already been posted here or not new info but ill send em.

Which leads me to believe maybe.. some players have found out?

[languid spoke]

she just meant when it's discovered it'll be shared lol

[radiant mirage]

Ah alright

and we already know about the "Redacted" hint..

Right?

[languid spoke]

yes

[fresh marsh]

i have heard people say some people have figured it out on pvp servers, but arent sharing so they have an advantage, but i have no idea if thats true or not

[radiant mirage]

^ this is kinda what I was thinking when Megs told me "other players"

[languid spoke]

yea, i tend to not believe it til i see it lol. tho i'm sure some people are greedy enough to not want people to be able to

[hallow mountain]

I have heard of a tree that is underwater at lime, I don't know if it's true or if it's intended, maybe it has something to do with it?

[languid spoke]

i think those are just oopsies that were placed wrong?

[fresh marsh]

ive seen a few underwater trees/bushes

[sly cedar]

Only swimmers then could get near it.

[hallow mountain]

No clue

[languid spoke]

i've seen a lot of trees in the water

[fresh marsh]

the only dragon that can really do underwater stuff id asd and it doesnt do it that well

[hallow mountain]

Also what does redacted mean?

[fresh marsh]

another word for classified

[languid spoke]

it means redacted, the word is hidden/removed

[sly cedar]

Cut out. Missing. Not here.

[radiant mirage]

mhm

[hallow mountain]

I think that if it's about a dragon, it must be something that is free to play

[hallow mountain]

Ohh

Hold on what color does each crystal have?

[languid spoke]

it's not the crystals

[hallow mountain]

Hmm

[languid spoke]

check pins for a doc of all we've tried lol

[hallow mountain]

Alr thank you xD

[sly cedar]

Wasn't it you yesterday that said we violated the crystals enough? XD

[hallow mountain]

Me?

[languid spoke]

it was earlier today 😂

[fresh marsh]

i was replying to someone elses theory

[hallow mountain]

I'm squeezing my brain

[hallow mountain]

Where are the pins? I'm from phone

[sly cedar]

What if day night were reduced to an hour each... 2 hours... my goodness...

[languid spoke]

do the drop down from the top

[sly cedar]

And if soemrhign is tied to the time of day, that's a bit much imo

Like I'm ok with certain mechanics or elements tied to times of day. I am. That shows some life in the world! But 2 hours of real time to go through each cycle... I feel like that startes to cut into rl for people at a point... like for soem that have limited time to play... anyway... I still feel like daytimes play a part in Eldering, or the process at the very least.

[fringe badge]

I'll send a DM here in a bit

[minor hinge]

if it 25% Elder (1) point where my

show there no Elder in game

If this true. It’s been confirmed and stated by Jao that dragons now get 7 mutation points. Hatchie (1) Juvie (1) Adult (1) - 25% Elder (1) 50% Elder (1) 75% Elder (1) 100% Elder (1)

[stray notch]

funny enough my mela on frozen throne i got it only by just getting nested, not sure if i instanlty got it, or did i grow my dragon later then got it but its not THAT restricted.. or bugged? also not first time, since legacy and totall of 5 servers all the same way

u see, mela u get it by doing something so reasonable
SO reasonable that its 2 iconics, and growing their nested makes sense but there is a trick which is not logging out

just like current eldering, ur gonna do smt so normal and would make sense, but with a little hidden trick that would make ALL the difference

[stray notch]

ASD tick is 2.1
4.2 a day, ~25days to get elder.

[stray notch]

tell me it pls?

[barren cave]

Nobody knows yet

[minor hinge]

some see orange line but just lead to dead body so idk

[brazen pasture]

I'm a little doubtful it is actually possible yet. I tried to consider all the angles, and unless it is something that makes zero sense thematically, it isn't possible.

[final cargo]

marsin has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[minor hinge]

i more mad that i dint get my point at 25% if it base on what jayo said

[stray notch]

might be "after" 25

[minor hinge]

then why say at 25%

say 26% or 25 1/2

Hatchie (1) Juvie (1) Adult (1) - 25% Elder (1) 50% Elder (1) 75% Elder (1) 100% Elder (1)

not 25%

mind is rigth at 25%

i see in moring

[stray notch]

wierd, i just got nothing to say but its 10 more hours to MAKE SURE that it was a LIE

just 12 more hours before we mass ping devs about actually PUTTING ELDER SYSTEM RAAAH

[minor hinge]

Right

[compact kindle]

wait what did I miss?

[compact berry]

https://tenor.com/view/the-office-michael-scott-dont-you-dare-gif-21943972

[stray notch]

its a joke i swear

[compact berry]

https://tenor.com/view/john-cena-im-watching-you-i-am-watching-you-wwe-watch-out-gif-25856329

[stray notch]

https://tenor.com/view/look-up-scared-willem-dafoe-gif-17761333

[stray notch]

i have a theory on that

why cant i send this

why am i not allowed to say this?

[sly cedar]

i think cuz yuo had the lord in it

[sly cedar]

so wait... you think the time of day affects each dragon differntly and plays a part in their Elder growth?

[mint tulip]

figured it out!!! you have to pray to the dev god emperors of dragonkind

[sly cedar]

..so Jrakhon? lol

[mint tulip]

all hail the omnidragon

[sly cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/what-huh-wat-wut-gif-13031409

did not see that coming

[mint tulip]

ok but real thought how much ya wanna bet it involves either the worms or elementals or even the pearls

[stray notch]

just wondering, i just finished reeding that doc and saw that one talking about taking routes around the map as agile mutated dragon makes difference, so if that does smth, also added to the pearls thing, and eldering being more "dragony" then yeah, those info were important (maybe?) for eldering, or knowing how dragony ur dragon is

[stray notch]

big chance pearls do exist and my opinion that as long as they are used, they give a buff to the eldering tick, and depending on ur luck u might either find a 0.1 buff pearl or 10% one

[sly cedar]

To understand the dragon.. you must BE the dragon... *meditates.... lolol

[stray notch]

thats one big chance

[stray notch]

i can see, yeah take them to a therapist

[sly cedar]

I don't think they'd add a pearl that would do that though... becasue that would be an incredibly saught after pearl and I fear Elitists would take advantage of that...

liek they'd require their members to have it or.. idk

[stray notch]

i got no clue thats a theory just popped up in my head

[mint tulip]

i mean at some point they have something that allows pearls to be a drop if I am not mistaken

[sly cedar]

Pearls will drop yes. hec even if there was a pearl to increase drop rates or someting that's whatever lol. but one pearl specifically affecting growth rate of Elder? That would be one of the must haves compared to any other pearl...

[mint tulip]

naw a pearl that actually is needed to elder

right now there is no known way to elder

so what if the option to elder just isn't in game yet and is tied to pearls or elementals or the big worms

[sly cedar]

If a pearl was required...... eh... but Jao and devs said the mechanic is in game, and I refuse to beleive it's just not accessible yet do to a missing component via update. That feels wrong...

[stray notch]

that would be so silly of them to just say yeah there is eldering, and make us go insane for a week now, maybe 2 more or even months before saying oh now eldering is dropped did u like the joke haha

[sly cedar]

If that turns out to be true then it feels a little troll-ish

[mint tulip]

I could see it

[stray notch]

or 1st of april they just say "eldering just got released, u april fools"

[sly cedar]

Others have already been saygin if we don't discover it in time of the next update, they will change teh method.. putting us back to square one. 😦

[stray notch]

if they change it they are making it easier.

[mint tulip]

so in 3 days

[stray notch]

bc if its as hard as the dov mentions, nah no one is gonna elder

[mint tulip]

watch it be somewhere noone goes cause no food

why explore a map and risk dying to starvation

[sly cedar]

I'd at least want to know the current method. Let us see how complicated it was or show us how stupid we are for not noticing something so simple. Open our minds. please. :/

I doubt it would be somewher liek Swamp ight now. That zone has no significant foliage or texture work in it yet.

[mint tulip]

watch it be in the water

at this point if noone found it I believe it is either somwhere noone goes for risk of dying or that it is not truly in by our definition and by whatever dumb definition they are going by

[sly cedar]

But only AsDs can dive underwater

[stray notch]

"active eldering yeah we meant u can grow passive, but nah the faster method we're working on it still untill 2.0 ^^"

[mint tulip]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^