#New Elder System

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languid spoke
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just REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED, then go to REDACTED to get REDACTED

piece of cake

turbid copper
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we need a hint FeelsStrongMan

stray notch
languid spoke
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from that quote we do know that after doing REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED we have to go somewhere

turbid copper
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lol nah

languid spoke
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SO

stray notch
languid spoke
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what three things could happen BEFORE needing to GO somewhere

languid spoke
stray notch
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i got like 3hours in that game but i play with my friends they tell me some stuff
i know there is something called "blessing" that u gotta take a pearl from somewhere to somewhere to get a blessing or smth

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correct me if im wrong pls, so might be DoD's case

languid spoke
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blessings are for specific things, i doubt Jao is thinking that for DoD tho

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i had thought perhaps it would be similar to the trials that BoB has, but not found any similarities

stray notch
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no i mean it being same method, for example "you have to (take the thing) then obviously have to go to (arch, somewhere? idc) to get (the pearl? huh?)"

languid spoke
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i see. but unfortunately pearl drops are not out yet

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from my understanding

stray notch
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u dont know it might be some edible thing not a "pearl"

languid spoke
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mayhaps

stray notch
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SERTVERS BACK UP ITS BACK UP WOOOO

languid spoke
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good, i get off work in like 25 min

stray notch
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ah alright, take care mate

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lets hope i find out abt smth :\

languid spoke
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good luck! don't get eaten lol

fresh marsh
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i wonder if its possible that the active elder system is bugged, since no one really knows how it works, it would take a while to find out

languid spoke
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imagine that 😂

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and we can't make bug reports because we don't know how to do it lmfao

compact kindle
languid spoke
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Jao over there like "they ain't got it"
logs in to test "oh shoot, is broken"

compact kindle
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I dont know if Id laugh or cry

languid spoke
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casually rolls out random hotfix

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both

eager abyss
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plenty of other stuff wasn't working I would honestly not be shocked

languid spoke
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right lol

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anything is possible at this point

stray notch
turbid copper
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so close

languid spoke
turbid copper
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fr

languid spoke
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we will one day learn the secret of the eldering

turbid copper
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The secret ways of the ancients ones

languid spoke
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we will be enlightened by the wisdom

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and then probs feel dumb for not figuring it out ourselves but that's ok

turbid copper
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lmaoo

languid spoke
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we're putting in lots of effort

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that's what counts

stray notch
languid spoke
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at this point it could be anything and i'd be like "why didn't i think of that"

final cargoBOT
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bluekitzune has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

trim horizon
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....

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oops

red merlin
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haha

trim horizon
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i had a random dream that it was as simple as going to random caves and 1 calling lmao

red merlin
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write that down write that down!

trim horizon
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xD

last minnow
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but i tried that 1 call thing and nothing happened, that was my first test

hot bone
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Praying for your sanity

last minnow
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when i first woke up i was happy i figured it out, then realized it made 0 sense LOL

turbid copper
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This is getting personal fr lmao

languid spoke
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update getting stuck in a hole does NOT help

turbid copper
languid spoke
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in my defense, it looked like a cave opening

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and i'm curious

tawny fjord
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There's a random spot between the trees in river valley, where there are pink petals in falling animation. I was unable to interact with it, but seemed quite out of place.
Anyone seen more of those around the map?

compact kindle
languid spoke
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oh might have been placed on accident?

languid spoke
compact kindle
languid spoke
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legend says you can still hear my FS flapping down there

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actually, it was my SS that said that

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but same

vast valley
tawny fjord
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I tried

frail salmon
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Could be a quest

frail salmon
tawny fjord
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Nothing

frail salmon
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Hmmmm

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What about bio island

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Jellyfishes flying

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Could that be a thingv

compact kindle
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That was in legacy also, people have tried eating them and sleeping or nesting with them didnt do anything

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Idk if more were done with the jellies tho

frail salmon
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Hmm alright

compact kindle
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The petels in the forest does sound like a misplaced asset tho

turbid copper
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Some stuff are just cosmetic

frail salmon
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Is there a trello with old pictures like The Isle

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Could be a hint there

compact kindle
frail salmon
compact kindle
frail salmon
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Thanks!

compact kindle
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Np :D

frail salmon
compact kindle
frail salmon
worldly sail
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how i feel right now about elderin

fresh marsh
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it would be nice if we could just get confirmation that its both in the game and not bugged, so we know we aren't wasting our efforts

proper imp
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yeah confirmation on its existance first would be nice

eager abyss
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yeahhh

languid spoke
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supposedly yes it is in and not bugged

fresh marsh
languid spoke
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but also not 100% confirmed lol

languid spoke
compact kindle
languid spoke
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he mentioned it in a vid i thought...or the Q&A.....let me look around it might have been a message he posted

compact kindle
languid spoke
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is ok lol, and i can't find it so may have been a video or something

compact kindle
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I read "He had said it when he was in the game now"

languid spoke
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i freakin wish 😂

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he is super welcome to come do so

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no pressure

compact kindle
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XDD

languid spoke
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i've tried so many things

compact kindle
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I thought he was just saying eldering was in game and when someone asked if it was passive or active he said redacted

languid spoke
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he would........

compact kindle
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Then gave the redacted sentence GooseWheeze

languid spoke
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it's just a puzzle so, where's our riddle masters 😂

rain lynx
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One thing I noticed is that the "First Flight" song only plays when you fly high into clouds. It's possible that the music album may have more hints. Perhaps we need to trigger some more of them? And they're likely in an order so say; First Flight --> ???

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I just don't know how to trigger them

minor hinge
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but asd cant fly

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asd got to do it all so

rain lynx
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They can jump from snowy mountain into clouds, maybe that will trigger first flight music?

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If it does then I'd consider it a decent lead

rain lynx
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IDK what system they have but having to trigger their cool album is a better one lol

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Maybe higher class dragons have to unlock more unique songs than smaller ones

fresh marsh
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asd cant trigger the music, ive tried jumping on that peak

rain lynx
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Into clouds?

fresh marsh
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yeah

rain lynx
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Well shoot

fresh marsh
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there was someone who got a passive tick while flying up there, so i messed around up there for a bit

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to rule it out

rain lynx
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Jokes on us, the new system is: wait 12 hours

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Uncampable, achievable by all

wintry turtle
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It's easy guys, we just have to speak friend and then we can enter 💪

minor hinge
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ps dont not try caves

compact kindle
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RiP

minor hinge
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i dint die i was back on the map

dense current
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you can fly around down there too but it doesn't do much xD

minor hinge
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no i fell out the map i could not fly

dense current
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ive fallen out of the map from a cave and was able to fly around

minor hinge
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i try hit f nofen work

dense current
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rip Dx

sly cedar
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Think about this too... he said the new Eldering mechanic is already in the game right? ... Then would that mean that the current mechanic has to apply to future dragons in a similar way? Like Blitz and Brood? :0 maybe even Frostfel or Singe?

languid spoke
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if it's not species specific then probably

turbid yoke
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Then how HOW my brain hurts

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I tried a lot tonight

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I followed the SS path after reading their lore

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Couldn’t find anything east of the forgotten forest

sly cedar
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A location would be campable though right? Makes me think it might not be tied to locations... but I could be wrong ofc.

turbid yoke
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Can’t be locations

crystal ibex
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They said it would be grindy, so what is considered the main grind in the game? Growing dragons?

turbid yoke
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But I was looking for clues

sly cedar
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I imagine it wouldn't be spamable either? Like imagine it takes one single action like something as stupid as jumping(for discussion purposes I know it's stupid lol) and then you just keep pumping it on the spot. That's no Bueno right? Lol not for game longevity... guh... makes me think there may be a cooldown on activating it though. :3

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Grindy? Hmmm... what's considered grindy in other games?

crystal ibex
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Levels, loot

sly cedar
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Farming/killing enemies on repeat for specific loot. Lol

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Doing specific events on a timer in hopes of getting a loot drop...

plucky cosmos
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spending time in the game...aka the passive ticks

sly cedar
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But that's not... you thr player working and grinding for it... that's just... guaranteed... if that makes sense...

eager abyss
plucky cosmos
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no i get it, and i really dont think they would make that hte only way to elder

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it would majorly suck if that turns out ot be true

crystal ibex
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The passive ticks can be considered more of a timegate

sly cedar
eager abyss
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i need something i can do actively or i will explode

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i need. a task

plucky cosmos
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true, in which case, the only "grind" i can think of is...collecting something (food, pearls?), and my brain cant think of anything else

sly cedar
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Something I consider grindy, keeping my higher class dragons hunger level low. Like FS are still annoying to keep full.

plucky cosmos
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maybe there's special bugs around (which i immediately thought as similar to mushies, so nvm)

sly cedar
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Maybe keeping your hunger level at 0 or a low point for a length of time? But that would be Farming the hecc out of mere scrabs rn...

plucky cosmos
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i just want a blasted hint already, this is getting genuinely frustrating

sly cedar
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And that seems... kinda silly to be considered epic enough to contribute to your Elder growth imo...

crystal ibex
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I currently have one more shadowscale to grow, on the same account, to have grown to adult with the agile skill tree, the scavenger. Also grew a mela male and female. All of them dying naturally from mushrooms. All spawns. So far nothing lol

sly cedar
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Nesting is grindy for sure, but you guys said it probabaly isn't tied to relying on another player.

turbid yoke
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It must be doable the solo way

crystal ibex
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Yeah

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All I can think of is was to 'master' a dragon. As in learning all the things about it through gameplay.

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Maybe the game tracks progress and triggers

crisp narwhal
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When they say grind, they might be referring to doing several different tasks.

fresh marsh
sly cedar
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Well considering what we can interact with in the game atm... we can pick things up, objects, babies, etc... set things on fire... well our bile acts as projectiles and hit surfaces... but Brood can't completely do that...

sly cedar
turbid yoke
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Like it’s not said or given away

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Because that’s what make you worth of bien an elder

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You need to find da way

turbid yoke
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Omg yes 😂😂

last minnow
sly cedar
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Well when I think of Elders I think of the phrase "Respect your Elders." What is considered worthy of respect with these dragons? Lore or otherwise?? Lol

turbid yoke
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That would be in regards to draconic traditions then

sly cedar
last minnow
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yea thats what client sided means

turbid yoke
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Yeah that could be it

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But what could trigger it

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What could make us worth it

sly cedar
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Then others would still flock to it and fights could still break out to prevent others from coming near lol. But that would be a pvp problem I suppose. Not exactly a bad thing.... right?

turbid yoke
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Yeah

last minnow
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i believe its client sided whatever it is, and with the information that it could be a location (from what jao said) i say its possible

turbid yoke
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Not that bad I mean elders must be overpowered in pvp

last minnow
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the location might change each time you go to it

turbid yoke
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And I’m sure we’ve done some things right

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But maybe not in the right places

sly cedar
turbid yoke
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If they add more food on the map

sly cedar
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I'm getting Skysclae flashbacks form Guild Wars 2 lol

turbid yoke
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Maybe we could do it

sly cedar
# turbid yoke 👀

A decent scavenger hunt that required you to not only get materials to make a saddle for your dragons but you had to travel the world to SPECIFIC spots... but those weren't entirely in order... the collections though were in an order.

turbid yoke
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Oh

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That’s a lot like the rare spawns in Wow or the rare events

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Yeah it could be something like that

sly cedar
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Like for one titled collection yoj had to go do stuff. Once that was done, FINISHING that collection unlocked the next collection step. Which was usually another collection lol

turbid yoke
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Lemme add it to the files

last minnow
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the thought that maybe we have some concepts right hurts, we probably already did the things required that could have caused something to spawn somewhere on the map (maybe even for x amount of time) that enables the eldering process

hearty steppe
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The only way to get elder the unconventional way or unintended way is disabled growth for server play as desired dragon then turn it back on

turbid yoke
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Brain and eyes hurt

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I’m pulling an all nighter because eh weekend

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And I don’t need sleep I need answers

sly cedar
turbid yoke
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What about the wind

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It’s the only audio cue right

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And in some random places its

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Stronger

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I’m tired I should stop 😂

hearty steppe
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I wonder they said the system is in but what if the way to do it isn’t

sly cedar
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I have noticed wind. Which was a nice touch. Actually there is one sound in particular that has been bugging me... it's on Bio Island. I feel like I'm constantly hearing a burning noise on it in a specific spot. Liek on a specific rock, but I have NO idea what is making that noise....

sly cedar
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You hear it too!?

turbid yoke
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i thought I was going crazy

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Could be the leafs

hearty steppe
dense current
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same

turbid yoke
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It’s close to the jellyfish

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It’s stronger there

sly cedar
turbid yoke
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And I can’t figure out what to do with it

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I tried mating with a rock

sly cedar
turbid yoke
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Flying through the two pillars

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Roaring on top of them

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We need to be on this case

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EVERYONE WAKE UP

dense current
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wait i hear that too

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thats so loud what the heck

turbid yoke
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Yeah

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It is

sly cedar
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RIGHT!?

turbid yoke
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And nothing is burning

hearty steppe
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BURN THE ROCK

sly cedar
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I kinda thought it was sa bugged spot but that's the only place I've ever heard it...

turbid yoke
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Yeah

hearty steppe
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WHAT DOES BIO ILAND LOOK LIKE

turbid yoke
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Though there is an other place with fireflies far away from BR

hearty steppe
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IS IT THE ONE WHICH BLOSSEM TREES

turbid yoke
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And it’s random

hearty steppe
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sorry caps

turbid yoke
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Yup

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That one

hearty steppe
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K

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Which rock is it

sly cedar
turbid yoke
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😂

hearty steppe
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What rock is it

sly cedar
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One of the skinny pointed rocks... may have been near the water

turbid yoke
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Yeah near the rock that suspiciously has a stinky shroom and jellyfish and weird light near it

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Like it glows

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And it burns

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WHY

hearty steppe
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I hear nothing yet

sly cedar
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I can't either o.o .... note it is nighttime in my server

hearty steppe
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Oh i though it was bc my as is elder

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So it’s doesn’t make noise at night?

sly cedar
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Wait.... where is this light source coming from???? It's like I'm in a spotlight

hearty steppe
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Jelly fish it seems

sly cedar
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But the light source isn't moving with them... not sure if to blame that on settings now...

turbid yoke
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Yeah but is it a référence to the former island ?

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Or is it the first trial

hearty steppe
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They don’t have actual dynamic light set up so they may have just put the light in themselves

sly cedar
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hmm... ok. that's plausible

turbid yoke
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Imma bang my head against a wall

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More coffee more thinking

hearty steppe
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I already did that like 3 years ago

dense current
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i have a feeling the noise is the leaves from the trees could hear it across the whole island

hearty steppe
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I beat you to it

turbid yoke
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slurps loudly in French

hearty steppe
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Casual elders every dragon*

sly cedar
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Right now I hear a slight sway of leaves sound. Calming like form wind. Last night I SWEAR I heard a burning noise. Reminded me of a fires crackle

turbid yoke
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And it was louder in a specific spot

sly cedar
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I have elder growth as 0.9 lolololol This must be my 12hr tick haha

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.9 is so sad XD

turbid yoke
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Can’t be the special dlc emotes too

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Because everyone need to access elder

sly cedar
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no. that would be locked behind a paywall and definitely p2w if that were the case.

turbid yoke
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Yeah so scratch that

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We have : random burning noise

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But is it the audio cue

sly cedar
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audio cue for what. If it's species specific... we should drag other dragons to the same spot to see if they can hear it :0

turbid yoke
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Yeah but everyone is asleeeeep

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Which is good I can’t blame them

hearty steppe
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Dahm elder ir big

fresh marsh
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i cant hear it

turbid yoke
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PSA sleep is important

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Never lack of sleep it’s bad

sly cedar
hearty steppe
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To bad that mean I can’t investigate how to elder now

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Bc all my dragons are elder

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I didn’t think dis though

turbid yoke
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So you mission is to find how to become ancient now

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While we stick to elder 😂

crisp narwhal
hearty steppe
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impossible

fresh marsh
hearty steppe
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ancient is un accesible

hearty steppe
crisp narwhal
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Did they spawn like that?

hearty steppe
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no

sly cedar
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custom server?

hearty steppe
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i grew them

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dident yall read my other message?

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nooo

crisp narwhal
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Dude you MIGHT have just found how to elder accidentally lol

languid trout
turbid yoke
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Did I missed THE thing 👀

hearty steppe
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AHEM

crystal ibex
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What if it's skin related and dragon type bound instead of account. So hear me out. The ks skins included mela, leuc, and leum. Mela is now unlockable for players who do not have ks. What if you have to go through mela, leuc and leum skins, grow them all to adults on one dragon type but also using different skill trees each time you start over. The KS backers will have an easier time with this, but people can get nested in as leuc and luem. Not sure how solos would be able to do it.

turbid yoke
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It’s an IR on the new Servs so

last minnow
turbid yoke
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U broke the game 🥺

crisp narwhal
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Oh never mind. Cheater lol

languid trout
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Yeah, that doesn’t seem like a legit way

last minnow
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it def isnt, but that sure sounds like a bug

hearty steppe
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you staring at this message rn 😐

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well i got biolumin to 100% adult

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but it basicly will not tick to elder

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bc no elder

fresh marsh
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bio cant elder

hearty steppe
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but it is bigger

last minnow
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if it cant be done without server help then its not official

crisp narwhal
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Bios don't get elder

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That's why they get 7 points

hearty steppe
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yea but you can get 100% after biolumin

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but cant get elder

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its weird :/

sly cedar
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I hear it now... it crackles more than simple swayign leaves...

last minnow
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bio doesnt get ticks, it cannot elder

last minnow
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the sound of pain?

hearty steppe
last minnow
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bio cant elder regardless

hearty steppe
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immu show screen shots

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gunna take me a bit to get on bio

sly cedar
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sounds almost liek sizzlign steak. lol

hearty steppe
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when bio hits adult it says 0% adult right

turbid yoke
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Yeah because it can’t elder because it’s a cosmetic dragon

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Its goal is to be pretty

sly cedar
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I'll try streaming slightly lol

hearty steppe
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yea mine says 100% but its not elder

turbid yoke
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Because it’s 100% adult

sly cedar
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It could still be leaves. though.

last minnow
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dude what are you talking about

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elaborate😭

sly cedar
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it isn't as consistent as I thought... but it still soudns slightly liek snapping fire lol

languid trout
sly cedar
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I'm streaming it rn in VC 1

last minnow
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yea anything out of place is worth checking, esp if its in the map already done

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alr

hearty steppe
sly cedar
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unles smy audio then is crappign out in the game? lolol

hearty steppe
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yea

last minnow
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wth that does sound like fire or something

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ill check it on the server im on

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guys we might have something

hearty steppe
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it only activates during day

dense current
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ok i hear the fire thing

last minnow
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it could be just an audio thing

sly cedar
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yeah idk lolool

last minnow
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but it IS worth investigating

turbid yoke
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Yeah

hearty steppe
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what if you attack the rock with ir or fs using bile

last minnow
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right, it could be different for each dragon

turbid yoke
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Who wants a hot cup of cappuccino with whipped cream and cookies ?

hearty steppe
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nah

last minnow
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it might be for asd

dense current
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going to bite the bullet and bring my asd there KEKW

sly cedar
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liek it also still kinda sounds lie the leaves sure... but it.. idk. it jsut soudns lsughtly more snappy. and it definitly wasn't as audible when at night....

hearty steppe
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like 100% past adult

sly cedar
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liek it could totally be a dead end too, but whatevs 🙂

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my fire noise I meant*

dense current
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at this point anything is worth a shot xD

turbid yoke
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I need to see that other spot because I have a feeling

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Can we all agree that they are a few spots with fireflies

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A cave

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At BR

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The island

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And an other spot I don’t know we’re but I need to find it

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And at island

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The fireflies are not all pink or purple

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Sometimes they are white

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So

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AHHHHH

sly cedar
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it's hard to really pinpoint the source of that sound... I started to hear when I neared Bio Island too... so again.. it could just be the leaves... feels abit m ore centered though

hearty steppe
last minnow
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i think its coming from the cherry tree next to it

plucky cosmos
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the fireflies might just be indicaators of the shimmering caves

sly cedar
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._.

dense current
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yea i have the same feeling lime :c

turbid yoke
last minnow
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be warned, theres a random hole here

turbid yoke
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It’s the elder way

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Jump

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😂

last minnow
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but im pretty sure the sound is coming from the tree next to us (and no i cant fit in it)

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i almost got stuck

dense current
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not the bushes having tree like colision boxes in the middle tho KEKW

turbid yoke
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😂😂

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Head planted a bush

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If the devs are watching the only slat less convo in this server they must be having a blast

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Figuring this is hard

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Or we just a bunch of big dumdums

sly cedar
turbid yoke
dense current
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yea i could drink from the ground a lot as my ir when i had him on the island xD

turbid yoke
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YEAH CONCRETE

plucky cosmos
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is there any other place that has the jellies floating around?

turbid yoke
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Not that I know of

plucky cosmos
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or am i in the completely wrong spot that everyone was talking about?

turbid yoke
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Haven’t found some yet

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The only I know are at island

last minnow
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the only jellies are on the island

hearty steppe
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Also will people be able to play as pookie

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They were able to play as it before right

sly cedar
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heh, fora giant ball of fire in teh sky my fs heat vis can' tsee it lol

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I'm drop a scrab in the hole. lolol

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offer it a sacrifice

turbid yoke
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For the old gods

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Oops sorry wrong game

sly cedar
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watch teh winds are jsut calmer at night lolol

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the sacrifice did not work lol

#

I can' teait now either hahah

turbid yoke
#

The Serv is so quiet now

#

All of USA went to sleep ?

plucky cosmos
#

it is sleepy time in US right now

turbid yoke
#

Isn’t it like midnight there ?

#

It’s 6 am in France

sly cedar
#

1230am EST yeh

turbid yoke
#

Sorry 6 30 here

woven isle
#

same

plucky cosmos
#

uk shimmer bright has 20 including me, though i havent checked after i got in

unborn ice
sly cedar
#

soudns liek sizzling bacon man... lol

plucky cosmos
#

uh, is SS elder growth tick 1.3%?

sly cedar
#

How long have you been adult?

crisp narwhal
#

Yes

plucky cosmos
#

since yesterday, first passive tick then

sly cedar
#

samem with me

crisp narwhal
#

IR and FS is 0.9
SS is 1.3
Can't remember asd

plucky cosmos
#

supposedly 2.1?

last minnow
#

asd is prob fast

crisp narwhal
#

Yeah that might be it

#

Sounds familiar

woven isle
#

asd seems to be about 2.1 ish or so, cause i get 4. something since the server i play on is 2x

plucky cosmos
#

ive got an adult asd with no elder growth, gimme a min to spawn in

woven isle
#

u get a tick every 12h u login to that one

plucky cosmos
#

confirmed, asd standard passive growth tick is 2.1

#

wasnt there a plain mushroom under the jellies? i could have sworn i ate one there and only noticed the jellies because i was eating there

turbid yoke
#

Yeah but shroom and jellies are just a ref to the old island

sly cedar
#

there is a mushy there yes

turbid yoke
#

I think

plucky cosmos
#

darn

sly cedar
#

maybe it is jsut the stupid leaves.... lol

plucky cosmos
#

the sound has died down a little at night

sly cedar
#

DUDE

plucky cosmos
#

more crickets

sly cedar
#

guys my server just went foggy

#

guys it' srainig.. o-o

plucky cosmos
#

WAT

sly cedar
#

it's raingin itn eh game rn

last minnow
#

a dev messing around is all it is

#

dw

plucky cosmos
#

sadness

#

what serv actually?

sly cedar
#

Flaming Falls?

#

crackle noises still present lol

turbid yoke
#

He made rain to stop the fire 😂

#

What if we’re right

plucky cosmos
#

possibly dumb question, but have we tried finding an interaction point with anything interesting?

#

or just spammed interact with said interesting stuff?

sly cedar
#

i thought abou ttrygin to pick up or eat crystals... lolo

turbid yoke
#

I have an other question about Cristal’s

#

Are they

#

Each day

#

In each cave

#

The same colors

#

?

plucky cosmos
#

so far as i've seen, the big blue one under the tree by the water fall has always been blue

#

same with the two small yellows in the bio-perch area

turbid yoke
#

So that’s a dead end

sly cedar
#

we can "interact" eat scrabs... mushys... corpses...

#

we can "interact" via.. emoting... for mating

#

Male initiates to Female...

turbid yoke
#

just the light frrom the jellies

sly cedar
#

yeah I gave in for that one.

#

The more I listen to that noise, the more I think it's just the tree leaves.. but if it quiets down specifically at night.... why then does it do that? is the wind just stronge during the day? wut? lol weird

turbid yoke
#

here i thought id find something but nothing yet

sly cedar
#

I wonder if that's th eonly place we hear the sizzling.. lol I think so.

sly cedar
#

.... did you just huff at us? XD

vernal plume
#

Does anyone have a clip of the discussion where Jao talked about the redacted bit? Or any clips of when the new elder system was discussed?

crystal ibex
#

What if it's skill related? Something about how you live as a dragon that's agile, or is scavenger, or is a social butterfly.

fresh marsh
#

if you mean the mutation points, i dont think its going to be anything you can accidentally lock yourself out of

crystal ibex
#

It may priorities the skills that have the most points in them, so even if you put it in another you still could get progress regardless just not as much.

fresh marsh
#

thats true

crystal ibex
#

I'm currently wondering if other emotes can target dragons other than just the courtship. So it's social in a way.

#

In my experience, most players put their mutation points into social, but if it was just nesting then they would be elder by now. So maybe targetting emotes would help? I mean the only other time you'd target an emote is courtship, and I don't think that's enough.

#

Agile could be flying or running through structures, scavenger could be eating bugs along with mushrooms. Each of these tells us of dragon life. What our dragon is like as a person in terms of roleplay. "What dragons do"

radiant hull
#

at this point people will be elder by passive lvling before we figure out how to elder

worldly sail
#

Given ppl are still constantly nessting cuz we are not done trying to get all As is gonna be a while before that happens

last minnow
#

just existing as a dragon

#

living up to what you are

crystal ibex
#

Exactly

#

While taking gameplay mechanics into consideration

last minnow
#

im actually very tempted to try gameplay like this just to see if it leads me anywhere

#

if it wasnt 2:30 in the morning that is

crystal ibex
#

Mood

last minnow
#

but it is something i would like to test to see if it could reveal something

crystal ibex
#

I'm thinking you may need a tick in elder to get started.

last minnow
#

like maybe through gameplay, at some point you get a prompt telling you something

#

and thats all it is

turbid yoke
#

i pulled an all nighter so i dont think ill log back on awhen ill log off

last minnow
#

its as simple as gameplay

#

actually moving around

crystal ibex
#

Yeah, and be mindful of where you put your mutation points. I think that's the key to figuring out which activities to do.

last minnow
#

my points are based off of my solo gameplay so i could easily do that

crystal ibex
#

heck yeah

pine mica
fresh marsh
#

thats just a passive tick

pine mica
#

ok

fresh marsh
#

you get one of those every 12 hours

crystal ibex
#

yep!

whole hearth
#

I got excited for a moment

#

😭

turbid copper
whole hearth
#

I think its not possible

turbid prawn
#

random thought, but has nightvision been used to check areas as it makes things light up differently and something that might not be very noticeable is more noticeable in nightvision?

whole hearth
#

Unless we get a small hint, not riddles, a hint

whole hearth
#

Havnt seen anything strange yet

turbid prawn
#

sadness 😭

whole hearth
#

I think there is a cloud that we need to go to and sit on

#

and play the banjo

turbid prawn
#

i am 100% behind this. ill be the bio dragon spitting on the player while they play the banjo

whole hearth
#

What is that little bar under the stamina bar

#

I filled that up when i was sleeping in the water

turbid copper
whole hearth
#

How sure are we its not 2de elder tick bar 0.0

turbid copper
#

it's second wind, your stamina refils when you fly very high

whole hearth
#

I mean Im a baby...so how could I use that as secon wind

turbid copper
#

doesn't matter the age

whole hearth
#

just curious

turbid copper
#

i used it, it's the second wind

#

like, when you fly above the clouds and ur stam is low, if you don't use shift, that little bar refils your stamina a bit

stray notch
#

idk who was curious about swamp cave
but here it is.

snow furnace
#

have people checked every corner of the map with thermo vision? crystals light up a bit

minor hinge
#

elder is in the game tink on it. Thay is done the same way as unlock mela skin. There one way to do that yes solo can do it to

#

Is to stay alive to adult.You need to eat and drink and sleep if ate red shroom

low pond
#

so there are no more leads concerning the elders?

minor hinge
#

It time

#

go play as on of dragon not count the bio or asd

#

there 3 you can pick form at start

proper imp
#

OHH MA GAWD

sour sonnet
#

i bet that adult thing aint gonna work lol

#

XD

minor hinge
#

try it see if unlock mela

sour sonnet
#

i already got mela unlocked XD

minor hinge
#

nest or spawn it

low pond
#

i have unlock mela and now i have leumelan

bleak python
#

Leum is a KS skin..

sour sonnet
#

yea you got that fro ma key or smth

bleak python
#

Probably got nested as it.

sour sonnet
#

yea

low pond
#

yes just to say that the mela once an adult brings nothing else

minor hinge
#

wait you unlock leum by grow a mela ?

bleak python
low pond
#

no I was nest ico to have the mela then I prog mela and then have my nest meulan

#

because we were in the process of progressing the stats

minor hinge
#

ok try with out be nesting just fom spawn in

#

as icon

low pond
#

I spawn mela and prog then I was nest mela and I have prog and then meulan but for both melas I had nothing regarding growth

turbid copper
#

it has nothing to do with the skins

low pond
#

yes i think you just have to be patient with the daily ticks

minor hinge
#

all players can do it and not camp

low pond
#

yes juste survive in the world and growth every 12h

turbid copper
#

There's also an active way to do it, but it's unknown

minor hinge
#

there is but what is it ? what do dragon do

#

why 90% players when back to old vers where there shrooms

bleak python
#

What if the active way is just by playing the game

minor hinge
#

and to have fun

turbid copper
#

i don't think it's that tbh

minor hinge
#

well if find out how or what is let us kow

turbid copper
#

Should be something that would keep the players playing

minor hinge
#

ok what keep you palying the game

#

look at that way

lone gulch
#

Okay so it's full moon here

#

And I dreamed alot of nonsense together

#

Including how to become elder 🤣

bleak python
#

May as well share with the class

turbid copper
#

imagine dreaming it and when you try it would be true lol

lone gulch
#

So according to my sleep brain you have to go to a lake, not one of the big ones but medium sized and nest there. The mother AND the father gets a tick from that 🤣

bleak python
turbid copper
#

lmao

#

nice dream

steep violet
#

have you guys come to any conclusions? 👀

turbid copper
#

nah

steep violet
#

i would read through but there are over 8k messages… lol

turbid copper
bleak python
#

Same place we were 4 days ago

#

Nowhere

steep violet
#

😔

lone gulch
#

I'm a lucid dreamer so it was done twice and it worked twice 🤣

(For those who don't have context, this is 99% wrong)

bleak python
turbid copper
#

We need a 12 level intelect here

crisp narwhal
#

I think there's another thing we need to think about. In the lore, the dragons form Tribes/Clans where everyone has a role. Maybe we need to start asking what the role of an Elder would be in a Tribe/Clan.

dapper shard
#

so did anyone figure it out yet?

bleak python
#

Usually Elders play a “wisdom” role.

crisp narwhal
#

Or a Leader

bleak python
#

They are wise beyond their years, and very respected.

#

Sometimes they are the “past” leaders.

lone gulch
#

Adding to that, experienced in almost anything a dragon can do

#

What's the % for the 4th point again?

crisp narwhal
#

Right. They've seen it all and done it all

#

No idea

lone gulch
#

Wasn't it like 30%

#

Something not far away from the start

turbid copper
#

25 i think

lone gulch
#

What of ypu have to Passive elder to that last tick and then be able to elder faster as you now have "more knowledge"?

minor hinge
#

good to know we can [REDACTED] in order to become an elder

bleak python
lone gulch
#

I got fresh dragons yesterday so I'm starting at 0

bleak python
#

PvE server will know soon enough fr

dry mauve
#

"you have to REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED then obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED"

#

Full quote

lone gulch
#

Is this what jao said?

turbid copper
crisp narwhal
#

I was also thinking about how the Bio gets 7 points. What if that means there are 3 things you must do to elder?

lone gulch
#

If so and we can trust that few words it has to be a location/object you can go to but need to do something beforehand

lone gulch
#

Ah so that's not actually a original quote then

#

Then we scrap this again

#

My pin board is full with scrapped ideas

#

Istg

crisp narwhal
#

What if it's 3 trials designed to prove that you are ready to be an elder. 3 trials, 1 point per completed trial. Then you go to a location and get to full elder and 1 last point. 3+3+1=7 points, the same number that Bios get.

turbid copper
#

This would make sense

#

But where do we start PepeHands

crisp narwhal
#

Well let's start with the tree itself.

#

How many branches does the mutation tree have?

minor hinge
#

what tree

crisp narwhal
#

The mutation tree, the tree you put your points into

minor hinge
#

6

crisp narwhal
#

3 branches

#

Breeding, Survival, and Agility

minor hinge
#

opps i was count lower 3 all so

crisp narwhal
#

So I think the 3 trials would be designed to test your knowledge and skill in these 3 areas.

turbid copper
#

Maybe if we knew some secrets about the map, but idk if there is

crisp narwhal
#

The one problem I'm having is what would a trial of Breeding be like. A trial of Agility is pretty easy to imagine, as would a trial of Survival.

minor hinge
#

ya i got my point in breeding to pass on better gen

minor hinge
#

but it got be a trial that all dragons can do even in solo

#

it more how and where

wooden marsh
#

perhaps we need to be a % of Elder through passive ticks before we can earn ticks by doing trial or whatever it is for Eldering.
Has anyone got past 25% Elder yet?

turbid copper
#

Nah it should be something to do anytime you want, not waiting on passive ticks

wooden marsh
#

ok was just a thought on what it might be, just because it should doesn't mean it will

vale mortar
#

considering pve hasnt figured it out yet, Im gonna say its in the game but not obtainable and jao is just throwing us in a loop till he actually enables it or something. 😭

wooden marsh
#

no-one in pve has stayed alive long enough to get far into being elder by passives so we don't know if my idea is wrong or not yet, they're all upstatting

vale mortar
#

theres multiple pve servers I know theres probably a few trying to figure it out, or if they have figured it out no one is sharing with the class

turbid copper
#

Yea this is expected Sadge

minor hinge
short pine
#

Have people tested repeating the events that cause music cues?

turbid copper
#

what music

wooden marsh
wooden marsh
short pine
#

Dang, Thanks for confirming

dry mauve
#

So... no luck

short pine
#

I've finally had time to grow so my IR is almost adult so I can hopefully help testing soon

turbid copper
#

We have the music in legacy too when we fly up

minor hinge
#

but asd cant fly

#

the only time play for asd if you nest some on in

fading trench
#

Where are u getting this information, elders only get 4 points, and it has never been stated that elders get 7 bios just get them because they don’t do damage so why not

dry mauve
#

Super Rhino — Today at 10:05 AM
if you want to elder then you must redacted redacted redacted

#

This is all i have!!!

turbid copper
#

what

dry mauve
#

Thats all i got outta rhino i tried

turbid copper
vale mortar
#

even on deathmatch, you're already elder and auto have 7 points

#

bio doesn't have elder, so it gets its 7 points at adult stage.

dry mauve
fading trench
vale mortar
vale mortar
fading trench
#

Regardless we made a private server to test out breeding changes and when making ourselves elder we only get 4 points

#

Yes but not with a command u have to go into the configs and turn off growth so you spawn out the egg fully eldered

vale mortar
#

that is what happens on scaleworx but you have 7 points 🤷‍♀️

fading trench
#

Ya but scale works has always done something different

#

We have changed no settings other than growth being turned off and you get 4 points

#

I wish there were steam achievement so we’d know if we did something correctly on the other to eldering

vale mortar
earnest root
#

Has anyone tried blowing fire on the crystals and see if they melt or anything?

minor hinge
#

try it dint nofen

fading trench
earnest root
vale mortar
#

Guess we won't know till someone gets elder

vale mortar
limber valve
dry mauve
#

Yeah they cant and will never be able to elder... at least not as of any info we have right now

#

Since bio and mimi are cosmetic dragons

compact berry
#

Class 1 and 2 dragons wont get elder
Too smol

jagged patrol
#

I'm currently trying to passively Eldern my ASD and see if you can unlock the right Eldern with a passive Elder 😅

rapid radish
vernal cargo
#

Is that supposed to be a border? Never seen this

hallow kernel
#

i am going to shove that crystal

turbid copper
vernal cargo
#

Well you can go through it

tame crest
#

Yeah, you hit the north wall.

limber valve
radiant hull
# dry mauve

so last 2 redacteds are elder forest to get elder right?

#

but now the first 3

pearl root
whole hearth
#

Anyone figure it out yet?

celest knoll
whole hearth
#

darn

vernal cargo
#

appareantly it has multiple steps so chances of finding it are low

whole hearth
#

mhhh

#

Well I lost all my dragons due to clans with "fair fights" such as 1v5

#

my fav is 1v9

whole hearth
whole hearth
#

Even hybrids??? NICE

limber valve
#

Oop Idk why I was thinking of behemoths when I read hybrids. Behemoths will be able to elder- not sure about hybrids but I would assume so sh_bcat_pop

dapper shard
#

I just discovered a secred area under a rock at the end of the other river ( it's not under br)

#

it could be useful to something, but you have to literally glitch into there

#

there might be more of those places?

frail salmon
frail salmon
dapper shard
#

yea I had to glitch into it

frail salmon
vale mortar
whole hearth
#

Do we have any tips?

#

Im too lazy to look everywhere

vale mortar
#

no hints or tips

#

Jao give us a hint already

frail salmon
#

What we have confirmed right now tho is;

1# Nothing is above the clouds or under the water.
2# Crystals are not doing anything.
3# Jellyfish flying around has no effect at all.
4# The Northern Lights are useless.
5# Calling on the game's highest point is not giving anything.
6# Nesting, calling, etc, at different locations on the map is not doing anything.

What I have in mind - If it is a specific place, it MUST be on the ground so the Acid Spitter can also reach the elderly stage. If that is not the case, the Acid Spitter has something on ground level, and the creatures who can fly must have something that the Acid Spitter can't reach.

Another idea could be that you have to roleplay as a dragon and do what they do. Basically, grow and take care of your clan/group. This can possibly not be the case since a specific dragon in the future will do that for a living.

Jao mentioned: SO GUYS, you have to REDACTED REDACTED REACTED, then you obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REACTED.

You have to "go to a place" to reach the elder stage, and there could be multiple stages of reaching the elder since Jao said "REDACTED" multiple times.

rapid radish
#

Or maybe he just wanted to say "redacted" many times xD bc in one of the screenshots he only said redacted once 😅

frail salmon
frail salmon
stable comet
#

Yeah and that you have to do something first not get something first

frail salmon
whole hearth
#

Cause well "ELDER Forest"

#

Needs to be the last place

frail salmon
#

Could be but doesn't have to be that is the problem

stable comet
turbid copper
stable comet
#

Idk atp

vale mortar
#

xD

turbid copper
#

oh yeah lmao

frail salmon
turbid copper
#

Well, if it has multiple steps to do it, then it's gonna be hard

crystal ibex
#

"You have to be social, agile, and scavenge, then you can go to [place] to get a tick" Maybe it's this?

celest knoll
# whole hearth Needs to be the last place

i dont think so, how should this work then?
The problem in my head is this: when he is right, it also means if the previous tasks arent as hard as it could be, people could elder their dragons in hours when the last condition would be to go some specific place and getting instand elder.
Also how should this method be grindable? repeatadly doing the same steps, getting to the same spot, rinse and repeat?
this sounds sus in my brain

whole hearth
#

dude IF JAO LIKES AVATAR... someone needs to try this... mate with someone at the tree near waterfalls 🙂
If you know avatar...the blue people youll know what I mean 😉

whole hearth
celest knoll
whole hearth
#

mhhh but can we trust this hint?

frail salmon
celest knoll
#

i dont know. He said: No hints. he also said the things in the screenshot.

#

maybe it should mislead everyone so we need more time

frail salmon
#

The thing in the screenshot is the only thing we have

whole hearth
#

lol But where was it said?

#

Cause I can't find anything

frail salmon
rapid radish
#

probably in patreon chat?

frail salmon
#

That is all we have atm

frail salmon
#

That aint fair for the community

rapid radish
#

well that's where he told about the new elder point system too

#

I didn't know tht until now

frail salmon
#

Bruh

#

So the picture I sent is from the patreon chat?

rapid radish
#

I don't know for sure

frail salmon
#

Hmmmm

rapid radish
#

but I haven't seen that discussion anywhere

frail salmon
#

That would be hella unfair for the community

compact berry
#

He's not said anything about it in any chats

rapid radish
#

or maybe a KS discussion, bc I think the colour of "Mazyday" is KS dc colour 🤔

rapid radish
compact berry
#

General

#

But other than redacted, he's not said anything is what i mean

frail salmon
#

@compact berry why don't I have my patreon role?

compact berry
#

You need to connect your pareon and discord in patreon settings

languid spoke
#

i don't think we can 100% go off the order of his quote either. from the one where he said "you have to REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED then you obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED." he has also said "if you want to elder then you must REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED"

the ONLY correlation between the quotes is three REDACTED in a row. sooooo

frail salmon
#

Still a mystery

languid spoke
#

literally

frail salmon
#

xD

languid spoke
#

we'll either figure it out or we won't lol

turbid copper
#

I think we won't Sadge

languid spoke
#

we might, we might not....as long as we're playing the game and having fun in the process it's a win/win

turbid copper
#

Yeah

worldly sail
#

keep strong its not joever yet

sly cedar
#

Nothing is joever

bleak python
languid spoke
#

possible

fading trench
#

Hey so idea

#

maybe we are thinking about star wars too much

#

what are most of the dragons in this game based off of?

#

SS= night fury. IR= Monstrous nightmare, and so on

rapid radish
#

ASD= dog haha

fading trench
#

well there are similar ones ok idk

compact kindle
#

At this point, I will honestly be quite surprised if there is an eldering method other than just naturally growing accessable in game right now

eager abyss
#

so with the increased growth rate on my server our ticks are 1.4. I've logged in twice for ticks (missed a few) and my elder rate is 4.1.... which is not divisible by 1.4

#

is it the same tick every time?

rapid radish
#

Well passives should be

eager abyss
#

Then I've got a tick and I don't know where it came from

whole hearth
eager abyss
#

I should be at 2.8 bc I'm pretty sure they don't carry over, but I have an extra tick of 1.3

#

If they did carry over I would be one tick higher than that

#

essentially I went from 1.4 to 4.1 today

rapid radish
#

what is the increased growth rate?

eager abyss
#

we are at 1.5x rate so instead of ticks of .8/.9 we get ticks of 1.4

#

at least for IR

#

Maybe it carried over and I miscounted

#

or maybe I forgot how many times I logged in

#

I'm a little fuzzled atm from the cold lol

#

mmm I was definitely 1.4 when I logged in I remember looking

rapid radish
#

it's all correct, bc the tick are 1.35, but they ofc are rounded up. So you actually have 4,05, which rounds up to 4.1

#

0.9x1.5=1.35

eager abyss
#

I did log in for a tick last night. I remember. Perhaps the counter did not update

#

its been like that for me

#

don't mind meee I'm just tired lmao

rapid radish
#

you have 3 ticks now: 1.35x3=4.05

#

and the ticks are not specific time, the ticks come every time you have logged in after 12 hrs 🙂

stray notch
rapid radish
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do you wanna share or test first? 🙂

stray notch
turbid copper
stray notch
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anyone here an admin in unofficial server that could help growing me to adult and test it out?

compact kindle
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I am

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Does it inviolve killing someone of the same species?

compact kindle
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Or just high kill count?

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Or one of every species, GooseWheeze I beliee those theories have been done

stray notch
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i dont have any INSANE idea out of the box i just
i just thought of "roleplaying the dragon", all dragons are carnis, and what a carni would consider an achivement to be an alpha (its what it shows when an elder, in DM it does)

compact kindle
stray notch
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thats my idea XDD

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ah... u sure it was really tested?!

compact kindle
turbid copper
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And how it would work in pve?

stray notch
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pvp mode

turbid copper
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Nah wouldn't make sense lol

stray notch
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i mean im sorry to yall PvE players but yall think being an ELDER would be by mass nesting, i would think it envolves KILLING and DOMINANCE

compact kindle
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My server focuses around Rp/PvP in a Semi-Realism focus loosly based around the lore thats accessable for DoD, RPing the dragons in their natural forms with some freedom for creative differences so its something we can test and look into

turbid copper
stray notch
turbid copper
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Bro, i feel ya

stray notch
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im so lost what could be the thing

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maybe a floating small thing somewhere in the skies

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that u gotta be scanning the map to find...

compact kindle
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Ive been across the entire skybox hammycry

turbid copper
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Nah, must be on land if we didn't find it

somber abyss
stray notch
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im aware that dragons arent just killing machines

last minnow
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all we know is you have to do something then go to a location

urban mantle
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so have we figured out anything today?

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nvrm we are still clueless

vernal cargo
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I would like to bump Eons cryptic application to elder again. Its the closest to the 3 step system we have by far

languid spoke
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the one that was supposedly told to "stop?" cause that was sus

compact kindle
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The one that said he was DMing the Devs Lmaoo

languid spoke
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right

rapid radish
languid spoke
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"the owner told me to stop" mmmm doubtful

vernal cargo
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Yes, what they described was close to a 3 step plan to elder and I like to keep diggin into it. The time of day is key and makes it a pain to reveal

languid spoke
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except what they were saying didn't translate well, and also could have been taken as "doesn't matter if it's day or night"

compact kindle
languid spoke
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and being called in a circle

compact kindle
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Someone who spoke the language came in an translated

vernal cargo
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They said it can be in the morning or night as far as i remeber

rapid radish
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"You're going to have to go around in circles (this is a saying that means to look around)
it can be at night, it can be in the morning
I don't even know the specific time but it's in the waters there
do you know the coordinates? : not different"

compact kindle
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The circle thing was an expression of speach, like youre going to feel like youre running in circles

rapid radish
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MagicGoats translation

last minnow
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can someone do a quick summary whats going on rq? tad bit lost

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are we going off of some random person who claimed the devs said something?

languid spoke
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an older someting that happened

compact kindle
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Someone was in here a few days ago said they knew how to elder Said that message above ^ Then told us Jao was in his DMs telling him to stop then he left

vernal cargo
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I just want to emphasize that this is literally the closest we are to figuring out eldering, rather than starting from nothing. They had 20%+ in their SS 2 days ago

rapid radish
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*FS

last minnow
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are we sure this wasnt 2x

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we need to take all of this into concideraton

compact kindle
languid spoke
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at that time, even 2x wouldn't have that from passive

compact kindle
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It would if they were getting both ticks a day

last minnow
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right

rapid radish
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after 3 days 20+ eldering isn't possible

last minnow
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im skeptical, very skeptical

languid spoke
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we were only at the.....what, 3-4 full day mark

last minnow
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i dont believe this

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if its 2x it might be possible if we did some math

languid spoke
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math was done then

last minnow
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and was it proven to be impossible?

languid spoke
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was not possible with passive at that short amount of time in

last minnow
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interesting

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then im not as skeptical then

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BUT, whats the "info" we got rn from this mystery person

languid spoke
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first day was delayed relese, so at most like 1 passive tick then right. then sunday, monday and tuesday.....i think it was around tues/wed when this person popped up

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2x server IR passive tick is 1.8% per

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so two ticks a day would be 3.6%

last minnow
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so its confirmed that 20% is not possible in that time?

compact kindle
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If youre admin grown alot of people get first tick right then

vernal cargo
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So this screenshot is from EON. He posted this along with the google translated message of " It starts with the water nearby here ". The location he was refering too was 500Stouth x 610West. Its a large opening with a fallen log / a large out of place red wood tree right next to a lake. This was the first area I tested.

EON, then posted another message which was translated into something about the two craters and a giant lake. This location was 690North x 690West. Again. I also tested there.

Stolen from Mr.Yolo

rapid radish
languid spoke
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3 days of passive elder on a 2x server is total 10.8% plus the possible one tick from saturday = 12.6%

vernal cargo
rapid radish
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that is not completely true, he never talked about craters

last minnow
vernal cargo
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thats the newest Ik of

last minnow
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i thought it was just words we were going off of

languid spoke
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that's from that person days ago

last minnow
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ok so i believe it now

compact kindle
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Everyone was all over that area and water and found nothing

languid spoke
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exactly

last minnow
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right

languid spoke
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it stemmed a huge search

rapid radish
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that screenshot is from elder forest

languid spoke
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nothing

last minnow
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maybe they know what it is, but are tossing everyone in the wrong direction

rapid radish
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also possible

compact kindle
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Perhaps but they left the server

languid spoke
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their english was not good so that didn't help

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to hit 20.7% on a 2x server getting both passive ticks it would take 5.75 days

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on IR

vernal cargo
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but thats why I say its the closest to the 3 step system, we have

last minnow
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wheres there message at exactly? im pretty decent at reading broken english

rapid radish
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there was also a cheater called Smaug. so Eon might have also cheated 🤷‍♀️

languid spoke
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the issue is that what they dsaid didn't spawn any leads

compact kindle
last minnow
last minnow
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oh

proper imp
languid spoke
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they said their english was bad and we were all like "we'll use google translate"

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it didn't make it any less confusing tho

rapid radish
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And then magicGoat translated it, bc they knew Cebuano

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"You're going to have to go around in circles (this is a saying that means to look around)
it can be at night, it can be in the morning
I don't even know the specific time but it's in the waters there
do you know the coordinates? : not different"