#New Elder System
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we need a hint 
easy, mass ping devs in general chat and ask for hint
from that quote we do know that after doing REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED we have to go somewhere
lol nah
SO
do u play BOB? anyone here does?
what three things could happen BEFORE needing to GO somewhere
yes
i got like 3hours in that game but i play with my friends they tell me some stuff
i know there is something called "blessing" that u gotta take a pearl from somewhere to somewhere to get a blessing or smth
correct me if im wrong pls, so might be DoD's case
blessings are for specific things, i doubt Jao is thinking that for DoD tho
i had thought perhaps it would be similar to the trials that BoB has, but not found any similarities
no i mean it being same method, for example "you have to (take the thing) then obviously have to go to (arch, somewhere? idc) to get (the pearl? huh?)"
u dont know it might be some edible thing not a "pearl"
mayhaps
SERTVERS BACK UP ITS BACK UP WOOOO
good, i get off work in like 25 min
good luck! don't get eaten lol
i wonder if its possible that the active elder system is bugged, since no one really knows how it works, it would take a while to find out
imagine that 😂
and we can't make bug reports because we don't know how to do it lmfao

Jao over there like "they ain't got it"
logs in to test "oh shoot, is broken"
I dont know if Id laugh or cry
plenty of other stuff wasn't working I would honestly not be shocked
yeah yk there is that hole in the map... everything is fine uhhh we added a new rock go look at it?
you're almost there
fr
we will one day learn the secret of the eldering
we will be enlightened by the wisdom
and then probs feel dumb for not figuring it out ourselves but that's ok
lmaoo
trust me it would be really easy one that we'd think dumb of not figuring out
at this point it could be anything and i'd be like "why didn't i think of that"
Reason: Bad word usage
haha
i had a random dream that it was as simple as going to random caves and 1 calling lmao
write that down write that down!
xD
i had a dream it was something to do with eating something from an entirely different game😭
but i tried that 1 call thing and nothing happened, that was my first test
You dreaming about the eldering system 😭 it’s really getting deep
Praying for your sanity
when i first woke up i was happy i figured it out, then realized it made 0 sense LOL
This is getting personal fr lmao
update getting stuck in a hole does NOT help
Broo Lmaoo
There's a random spot between the trees in river valley, where there are pink petals in falling animation. I was unable to interact with it, but seemed quite out of place.
Anyone seen more of those around the map?
At asd cave ?
oh might have been placed on accident?
YES!
Thats the death pit
legend says you can still hear my FS flapping down there
actually, it was my SS that said that
but same
Could just be bugged, since they’re where the sakuras are at the island
Maybe fly through them?
I tried
Could be a quest
Nothing?
Nothing
That was in legacy also, people have tried eating them and sleeping or nesting with them didnt do anything
Idk if more were done with the jellies tho
Hmm alright
The petels in the forest does sound like a misplaced asset tho
Some stuff are just cosmetic
Yeah their roadmap is on trello, Im not sure if Eldering was mentioned at all its been a hotminute since ive looked at it
Could you send me the link if you find it? Wanna go through it
Organize anything, together. Trello is a collaboration tool that organizes your projects into boards. In one glance, know what's being worked on, who's working on what, and where something is in a process.
Thanks!
Np :D
Yeh there is absolutely zero on the Trello
Yeah 
it would be nice if we could just get confirmation that its both in the game and not bugged, so we know we aren't wasting our efforts
yeah confirmation on its existance first would be nice
yeahhh
supposedly yes it is in and not bugged
where did you get this information?
but also not 100% confirmed lol
Jao had said it was in the game now once...can't 100% confirm it's not bugged but supposedly not
He confirmed that there was an Active method of eldering ingame?
he mentioned it in a vid i thought...or the Q&A.....let me look around it might have been a message he posted
OH I missread your previous message woop XD
is ok lol, and i can't find it so may have been a video or something
I read "He had said it when he was in the game now"
XDD
i've tried so many things
I thought he was just saying eldering was in game and when someone asked if it was passive or active he said redacted
he would........
Then gave the redacted sentence 
it's just a puzzle so, where's our riddle masters 😂
One thing I noticed is that the "First Flight" song only plays when you fly high into clouds. It's possible that the music album may have more hints. Perhaps we need to trigger some more of them? And they're likely in an order so say; First Flight --> ???
I just don't know how to trigger them
They can jump from snowy mountain into clouds, maybe that will trigger first flight music?
If it does then I'd consider it a decent lead
IDK what system they have but having to trigger their cool album is a better one lol
Maybe higher class dragons have to unlock more unique songs than smaller ones
asd cant trigger the music, ive tried jumping on that peak
Into clouds?
yeah
Well shoot
there was someone who got a passive tick while flying up there, so i messed around up there for a bit
to rule it out
It's easy guys, we just have to speak friend and then we can enter 💪
ps dont not try caves
RiP
i dint die i was back on the map
you can fly around down there too but it doesn't do much xD
no i fell out the map i could not fly
ive fallen out of the map from a cave and was able to fly around
i try hit f nofen work
rip Dx
Think about this too... he said the new Eldering mechanic is already in the game right? ... Then would that mean that the current mechanic has to apply to future dragons in a similar way? Like Blitz and Brood? :0 maybe even Frostfel or Singe?
if it's not species specific then probably
Then how HOW my brain hurts
I tried a lot tonight
I followed the SS path after reading their lore
Couldn’t find anything east of the forgotten forest
A location would be campable though right? Makes me think it might not be tied to locations... but I could be wrong ofc.
Can’t be locations
They said it would be grindy, so what is considered the main grind in the game? Growing dragons?
But I was looking for clues
I imagine it wouldn't be spamable either? Like imagine it takes one single action like something as stupid as jumping(for discussion purposes I know it's stupid lol) and then you just keep pumping it on the spot. That's no Bueno right? Lol not for game longevity... guh... makes me think there may be a cooldown on activating it though. :3
Grindy? Hmmm... what's considered grindy in other games?
Levels, loot
Farming/killing enemies on repeat for specific loot. Lol
Doing specific events on a timer in hopes of getting a loot drop...
spending time in the game...aka the passive ticks
But that's not... you thr player working and grinding for it... that's just... guaranteed... if that makes sense...
us rn
no i get it, and i really dont think they would make that hte only way to elder
it would majorly suck if that turns out ot be true
The passive ticks can be considered more of a timegate
If the passive really was the only way... there would be A LOT of angry people I think...
true, in which case, the only "grind" i can think of is...collecting something (food, pearls?), and my brain cant think of anything else
Something I consider grindy, keeping my higher class dragons hunger level low. Like FS are still annoying to keep full.
maybe there's special bugs around (which i immediately thought as similar to mushies, so nvm)
Maybe keeping your hunger level at 0 or a low point for a length of time? But that would be Farming the hecc out of mere scrabs rn...
i just want a blasted hint already, this is getting genuinely frustrating
And that seems... kinda silly to be considered epic enough to contribute to your Elder growth imo...
I currently have one more shadowscale to grow, on the same account, to have grown to adult with the agile skill tree, the scavenger. Also grew a mela male and female. All of them dying naturally from mushrooms. All spawns. So far nothing lol
Nesting is grindy for sure, but you guys said it probabaly isn't tied to relying on another player.
It must be doable the solo way
Yeah
All I can think of is was to 'master' a dragon. As in learning all the things about it through gameplay.
Maybe the game tracks progress and triggers
When they say grind, they might be referring to doing several different tasks.
no ones been able to confirm that they said its in the game currently
Well considering what we can interact with in the game atm... we can pick things up, objects, babies, etc... set things on fire... well our bile acts as projectiles and hit surfaces... but Brood can't completely do that...
Oh? Hmm... that would make a big difference
It must be some trials
Like it’s not said or given away
Because that’s what make you worth of bien an elder
You need to find da way
Omg yes 😂😂
dont know if this was answered but it can still be a location if what to do is client sided, that would make it not campable and doable by solo players
Well when I think of Elders I think of the phrase "Respect your Elders." What is considered worthy of respect with these dragons? Lore or otherwise?? Lol
That would be in regards to draconic traditions then
True. I know some games have it to where you see it on your side and other players cannot touch your item. They have their own.
yea thats what client sided means
Then others would still flock to it and fights could still break out to prevent others from coming near lol. But that would be a pvp problem I suppose. Not exactly a bad thing.... right?
Yeah
i believe its client sided whatever it is, and with the information that it could be a location (from what jao said) i say its possible
Not that bad I mean elders must be overpowered in pvp
the location might change each time you go to it
I’m sure it’s something like that
And I’m sure we’ve done some things right
But maybe not in the right places
That I can see. Like you find the first to start the path, then you find the next location in order... like a scavenger hunt... now THOSE are grindy lol.
If they add more food on the map
I'm getting Skysclae flashbacks form Guild Wars 2 lol
Maybe we could do it
A decent scavenger hunt that required you to not only get materials to make a saddle for your dragons but you had to travel the world to SPECIFIC spots... but those weren't entirely in order... the collections though were in an order.
Oh
That’s a lot like the rare spawns in Wow or the rare events
Yeah it could be something like that
Like for one titled collection yoj had to go do stuff. Once that was done, FINISHING that collection unlocked the next collection step. Which was usually another collection lol
Lemme add it to the files
the thought that maybe we have some concepts right hurts, we probably already did the things required that could have caused something to spawn somewhere on the map (maybe even for x amount of time) that enables the eldering process
The only way to get elder the unconventional way or unintended way is disabled growth for server play as desired dragon then turn it back on
Yup I’m with you on this one
Brain and eyes hurt
I’m pulling an all nighter because eh weekend
And I don’t need sleep I need answers
For something like that though, most games would at least be kind enough to give you an on screen prompt like, "a mighty beast has spawned nearby." And then they could just leave it liek that. You go off to find it. At LEAST you would have a notice that something worked. And then if it's timed, "the beast has left". SOMETHING....
What about the wind
It’s the only audio cue right
And in some random places its
Stronger
I’m tired I should stop 😂
I wonder they said the system is in but what if the way to do it isn’t
I have noticed wind. Which was a nice touch. Actually there is one sound in particular that has been bugging me... it's on Bio Island. I feel like I'm constantly hearing a burning noise on it in a specific spot. Liek on a specific rock, but I have NO idea what is making that noise....
YES
THAN YOU
You hear it too!?
I wanna see if I can hear that
same
There are leaves falling from every tree ont hat island but this sound in particular I KNOW is coming near one of the rocks...
I saw the jellys too but I didn't want to think they were causing it... that's a weird sound for calm magical jellies imo
Flying through the two pillars
Roaring on top of them
We need to be on this case
EVERYONE WAKE UP
RIGHT!?
And nothing is burning
BURN THE ROCK
I kinda thought it was sa bugged spot but that's the only place I've ever heard it...
Yeah
WHAT DOES BIO ILAND LOOK LIKE
Though there is an other place with fireflies far away from BR
IS IT THE ONE WHICH BLOSSEM TREES
And it’s random
sorry caps
You started to sound so interested and excited you started screaming xD
😂
stares with distraught
What rock is it
One of the skinny pointed rocks... may have been near the water
Yeah near the rock that suspiciously has a stinky shroom and jellyfish and weird light near it
Like it glows
And it burns
WHY
I hear nothing yet
I can't either o.o .... note it is nighttime in my server
Wait.... where is this light source coming from???? It's like I'm in a spotlight
Jelly fish it seems
But the light source isn't moving with them... not sure if to blame that on settings now...
They don’t have actual dynamic light set up so they may have just put the light in themselves
hmm... ok. that's plausible
I already did that like 3 years ago
i have a feeling the noise is the leaves from the trees could hear it across the whole island
I beat you to it
slurps loudly in French
Casual elders every dragon*
Right now I hear a slight sway of leaves sound. Calming like form wind. Last night I SWEAR I heard a burning noise. Reminded me of a fires crackle
Me too
And it was louder in a specific spot
no. that would be locked behind a paywall and definitely p2w if that were the case.
audio cue for what. If it's species specific... we should drag other dragons to the same spot to see if they can hear it :0
i cant hear it
what time of day is it for you in the server?
To bad that mean I can’t investigate how to elder now
Bc all my dragons are elder
I didn’t think dis though
Wait how are your dragons elder?
impossible
night
ancient is un accesible
howam i supposed to know
Did they spawn like that?
no
custom server?
Dude you MIGHT have just found how to elder accidentally lol
On the legacy map?
Did I missed THE thing 👀
AHEM
What if it's skin related and dragon type bound instead of account. So hear me out. The ks skins included mela, leuc, and leum. Mela is now unlockable for players who do not have ks. What if you have to go through mela, leuc and leum skins, grow them all to adults on one dragon type but also using different skill trees each time you start over. The KS backers will have an easier time with this, but people can get nested in as leuc and luem. Not sure how solos would be able to do it.
It’s an IR on the new Servs so
A H E M
so you found a way to glitch elder
U broke the game 🥺
Oh never mind. Cheater lol
Yeah, that doesn’t seem like a legit way
it def isnt, but that sure sounds like a bug
you staring at this message rn 😐
well i got biolumin to 100% adult
but it basicly will not tick to elder
bc no elder
bio cant elder
but it is bigger
if it cant be done without server help then its not official
I hear it now... it crackles more than simple swayign leaves...
bio doesnt get ticks, it cannot elder
hear what?
the sound of pain?
not if growth was disabled at a point
bio cant elder regardless
sounds almost liek sizzlign steak. lol
when bio hits adult it says 0% adult right
I'll try streaming slightly lol
yea mine says 100% but its not elder
Because it’s 100% adult
It could still be leaves. though.
it isn't as consistent as I thought... but it still soudns slightly liek snapping fire lol
Sounds worth checking
I'm streaming it rn in VC 1
unles smy audio then is crappign out in the game? lolol
yea
wth that does sound like fire or something
ill check it on the server im on
guys we might have something
it only activates during day
ok i hear the fire thing
it could be just an audio thing
yeah idk lolool
but it IS worth investigating
Yeah
what if you attack the rock with ir or fs using bile
right, it could be different for each dragon
Who wants a hot cup of cappuccino with whipped cream and cookies ?
nah
it might be for asd
going to bite the bullet and bring my asd there 
liek it also still kinda sounds lie the leaves sure... but it.. idk. it jsut soudns lsughtly more snappy. and it definitly wasn't as audible when at night....
at this point anything is worth a shot xD
I need to see that other spot because I have a feeling
Can we all agree that they are a few spots with fireflies
A cave
At BR
The island
And an other spot I don’t know we’re but I need to find it
And at island
The fireflies are not all pink or purple
Sometimes they are white
So
AHHHHH
hmm...
it's hard to really pinpoint the source of that sound... I started to hear when I neared Bio Island too... so again.. it could just be the leaves... feels abit m ore centered though
SHOOT DIRECTLY DOWN LIKE GODZILLA IN GODZILLA VS KONG
i think its coming from the cherry tree next to it
the fireflies might just be indicaators of the shimmering caves
._.
yea i have the same feeling lime :c
What what
be warned, theres a random hole here
but im pretty sure the sound is coming from the tree next to us (and no i cant fit in it)
i almost got stuck
not the bushes having tree like colision boxes in the middle tho 
😂😂
Head planted a bush
If the devs are watching the only slat less convo in this server they must be having a blast
Figuring this is hard
Or we just a bunch of big dumdums
tehre's a tiny water partical in that bush at the foot of the rock xD I was abel to drink from the ground ahha
yea i could drink from the ground a lot as my ir when i had him on the island xD
YEAH CONCRETE
is there any other place that has the jellies floating around?
Not that I know of
or am i in the completely wrong spot that everyone was talking about?
the only jellies are on the island
Also will people be able to play as pookie
They were able to play as it before right
heh, fora giant ball of fire in teh sky my fs heat vis can' tsee it lol
I'm drop a scrab in the hole. lolol
offer it a sacrifice
watch teh winds are jsut calmer at night lolol
the sacrifice did not work lol
I can' teait now either hahah
it is sleepy time in US right now
1230am EST yeh
Sorry 6 30 here
same
uk shimmer bright has 20 including me, though i havent checked after i got in
rng is grindy so maybe random spawns
soudns liek sizzling bacon man... lol
uh, is SS elder growth tick 1.3%?
How long have you been adult?
Yes
since yesterday, first passive tick then
samem with me
IR and FS is 0.9
SS is 1.3
Can't remember asd
supposedly 2.1?
asd is prob fast
asd seems to be about 2.1 ish or so, cause i get 4. something since the server i play on is 2x
ive got an adult asd with no elder growth, gimme a min to spawn in
u get a tick every 12h u login to that one
confirmed, asd standard passive growth tick is 2.1
wasnt there a plain mushroom under the jellies? i could have sworn i ate one there and only noticed the jellies because i was eating there
Yeah but shroom and jellies are just a ref to the old island
there is a mushy there yes
I think
darn
maybe it is jsut the stupid leaves.... lol
the sound has died down a little at night
DUDE
more crickets
WAT
it's raingin itn eh game rn
possibly dumb question, but have we tried finding an interaction point with anything interesting?
or just spammed interact with said interesting stuff?
i thought abou ttrygin to pick up or eat crystals... lolo
I have an other question about Cristal’s
Are they
Each day
In each cave
The same colors
?
so far as i've seen, the big blue one under the tree by the water fall has always been blue
same with the two small yellows in the bio-perch area
So that’s a dead end
and depends on what you mean by interesting stuff.... as of rn all we have to interact with are... scrab bodies and babies. Pickign up anyway.
we can "interact" eat scrabs... mushys... corpses...
we can "interact" via.. emoting... for mating
Male initiates to Female...
yeah I gave in for that one.
The more I listen to that noise, the more I think it's just the tree leaves.. but if it quiets down specifically at night.... why then does it do that? is the wind just stronge during the day? wut? lol weird
I wonder if that's th eonly place we hear the sizzling.. lol I think so.
.... did you just huff at us? XD
Disregard
Does anyone have a clip of the discussion where Jao talked about the redacted bit? Or any clips of when the new elder system was discussed?
What if it's skill related? Something about how you live as a dragon that's agile, or is scavenger, or is a social butterfly.
if you mean the mutation points, i dont think its going to be anything you can accidentally lock yourself out of
It may priorities the skills that have the most points in them, so even if you put it in another you still could get progress regardless just not as much.
thats true
I'm currently wondering if other emotes can target dragons other than just the courtship. So it's social in a way.
In my experience, most players put their mutation points into social, but if it was just nesting then they would be elder by now. So maybe targetting emotes would help? I mean the only other time you'd target an emote is courtship, and I don't think that's enough.
Agile could be flying or running through structures, scavenger could be eating bugs along with mushrooms. Each of these tells us of dragon life. What our dragon is like as a person in terms of roleplay. "What dragons do"
at this point people will be elder by passive lvling before we figure out how to elder
Given ppl are still constantly nessting cuz we are not done trying to get all As is gonna be a while before that happens
maybe this right here is the key to elder
just existing as a dragon
living up to what you are
im actually very tempted to try gameplay like this just to see if it leads me anywhere
if it wasnt 2:30 in the morning that is
Mood
but it is something i would like to test to see if it could reveal something
I'm thinking you may need a tick in elder to get started.
like maybe through gameplay, at some point you get a prompt telling you something
and thats all it is
i pulled an all nighter so i dont think ill log back on awhen ill log off
Yeah, and be mindful of where you put your mutation points. I think that's the key to figuring out which activities to do.
my points are based off of my solo gameplay so i could easily do that
heck yeah
I think I found something
thats just a passive tick
ok
you get one of those every 12 hours
yep!

I think its not possible
random thought, but has nightvision been used to check areas as it makes things light up differently and something that might not be very noticeable is more noticeable in nightvision?
Unless we get a small hint, not riddles, a hint
Ive tried
Havnt seen anything strange yet
sadness 😭
i am 100% behind this. ill be the bio dragon spitting on the player while they play the banjo
also
What is that little bar under the stamina bar
I filled that up when i was sleeping in the water
it's second wind
How sure are we its not 2de elder tick bar 0.0
it's second wind, your stamina refils when you fly very high
doesn't matter the age
just curious
i used it, it's the second wind
like, when you fly above the clouds and ur stam is low, if you don't use shift, that little bar refils your stamina a bit
idk who was curious about swamp cave
but here it is.
have people checked every corner of the map with thermo vision? crystals light up a bit
elder is in the game tink on it. Thay is done the same way as unlock mela skin. There one way to do that yes solo can do it to
Is to stay alive to adult.You need to eat and drink and sleep if ate red shroom
so there are no more leads concerning the elders?
It time
go play as on of dragon not count the bio or asd
there 3 you can pick form at start
OHH MA GAWD
try it see if unlock mela
i already got mela unlocked XD
nest or spawn it
i have unlock mela and now i have leumelan
Leum is a KS skin..
yea you got that fro ma key or smth
Probably got nested as it.
yea
yes just to say that the mela once an adult brings nothing else
wait you unlock leum by grow a mela ?
No.
no I was nest ico to have the mela then I prog mela and then have my nest meulan
because we were in the process of progressing the stats
I spawn mela and prog then I was nest mela and I have prog and then meulan but for both melas I had nothing regarding growth
it has nothing to do with the skins
yes i think you just have to be patient with the daily ticks
all players can do it and not camp
yes juste survive in the world and growth every 12h
There's also an active way to do it, but it's unknown
there is but what is it ? what do dragon do
why 90% players when back to old vers where there shrooms
What if the active way is just by playing the game
and to have fun
i don't think it's that tbh
well if find out how or what is let us kow
Should be something that would keep the players playing
Okay so it's full moon here
And I dreamed alot of nonsense together
Including how to become elder 🤣
May as well share with the class
imagine dreaming it and when you try it would be true lol
So according to my sleep brain you have to go to a lake, not one of the big ones but medium sized and nest there. The mother AND the father gets a tick from that 🤣
Dejavu, I feel like I’ve been to this place before 🎵
have you guys come to any conclusions? 👀
nah
i would read through but there are over 8k messages… lol

😔
I'm a lucid dreamer so it was done twice and it worked twice 🤣
(For those who don't have context, this is 99% wrong)
We need a 12 level intelect here
I think there's another thing we need to think about. In the lore, the dragons form Tribes/Clans where everyone has a role. Maybe we need to start asking what the role of an Elder would be in a Tribe/Clan.
so did anyone figure it out yet?
Usually Elders play a “wisdom” role.
Or a Leader
They are wise beyond their years, and very respected.
Sometimes they are the “past” leaders.
Adding to that, experienced in almost anything a dragon can do
What's the % for the 4th point again?
25 i think
What of ypu have to Passive elder to that last tick and then be able to elder faster as you now have "more knowledge"?
good to know we can [REDACTED] in order to become an elder
That might be it. Couldn’t hurt to try.
I got fresh dragons yesterday so I'm starting at 0
PvE server will know soon enough fr
"you have to REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED then obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED"
Full quote
Is this what jao said?
i think so yea
I was also thinking about how the Bio gets 7 points. What if that means there are 3 things you must do to elder?
If so and we can trust that few words it has to be a location/object you can go to but need to do something beforehand
He only said "REDACTED"
Ah so that's not actually a original quote then
Then we scrap this again
My pin board is full with scrapped ideas
Istg
What if it's 3 trials designed to prove that you are ready to be an elder. 3 trials, 1 point per completed trial. Then you go to a location and get to full elder and 1 last point. 3+3+1=7 points, the same number that Bios get.
Well let's start with the tree itself.
How many branches does the mutation tree have?
what tree
The mutation tree, the tree you put your points into
6
opps i was count lower 3 all so
So I think the 3 trials would be designed to test your knowledge and skill in these 3 areas.
Maybe if we knew some secrets about the map, but idk if there is
The one problem I'm having is what would a trial of Breeding be like. A trial of Agility is pretty easy to imagine, as would a trial of Survival.
ya i got my point in breeding to pass on better gen
perhaps we need to be a % of Elder through passive ticks before we can earn ticks by doing trial or whatever it is for Eldering.
Has anyone got past 25% Elder yet?
Nah it should be something to do anytime you want, not waiting on passive ticks
ok was just a thought on what it might be, just because it should doesn't mean it will
considering pve hasnt figured it out yet, Im gonna say its in the game but not obtainable and jao is just throwing us in a loop till he actually enables it or something. 😭
no-one in pve has stayed alive long enough to get far into being elder by passives so we don't know if my idea is wrong or not yet, they're all upstatting
theres multiple pve servers I know theres probably a few trying to figure it out, or if they have figured it out no one is sharing with the class
Yea this is expected 
dont say no one has stayed alive
Have people tested repeating the events that cause music cues?
what music
not many is what I should have said then, the point I was making is that only a few are past even 10% of eldering
I've hatched many eggs & got no ticks
Been above the clouds a bunch of times & no ticks
Dang, Thanks for confirming
I tried flying above the clouds a few times, and had gotten music once while doing it but i also gained my passive tick at the same time
So... no luck
I've finally had time to grow so my IR is almost adult so I can hopefully help testing soon
We have the music in legacy too when we fly up
Where are u getting this information, elders only get 4 points, and it has never been stated that elders get 7 bios just get them because they don’t do damage so why not
Super Rhino — Today at 10:05 AM
if you want to elder then you must redacted redacted redacted
This is all i have!!!
what
Thats all i got outta rhino i tried

elders do indeed get 7 points
even on deathmatch, you're already elder and auto have 7 points
bio doesn't have elder, so it gets its 7 points at adult stage.
Deathmatch elders have always gotten 7 points even in legacy they put it in themselves if u go on a private server and make yourself elder with a command u only get 4 points
They didnt have 7 points in deathmatch, it was auto that they had 4 points in 2 of the lines 💀
Did they change it to where you can make yourself elder now in private servers without the devs?
Regardless we made a private server to test out breeding changes and when making ourselves elder we only get 4 points
Yes but not with a command u have to go into the configs and turn off growth so you spawn out the egg fully eldered
that is what happens on scaleworx but you have 7 points 🤷♀️
Ya but scale works has always done something different
We have changed no settings other than growth being turned off and you get 4 points
I wish there were steam achievement so we’d know if we did something correctly on the other to eldering
Not sure what they could have done tbf, scale on legacy they had it to where you spawned on a saved dragon and the points were already set into stats. Now you hatch as elder and have 7 points to use. 🤷♀️
Has anyone tried blowing fire on the crystals and see if they melt or anything?
try it dint nofen
I mean they also went around the dlc and allowed people to play as asd regardless of if u owned it so who knows
Dang 😦
Guess we won't know till someone gets elder
cause they used saved data, cause when you go to select it shows as "saved"
It’s been confirmed and stated by Jao that dragons now get 7 mutation points. Hatchie (1) Juvie (1) Adult (1) - 25% Elder (1) 50% Elder (1) 75% Elder (1) 100% Elder (1) - the only exception to this is Bios who get all 7 points by adult stage since they cannot elder 
Yeah they cant and will never be able to elder... at least not as of any info we have right now
Since bio and mimi are cosmetic dragons
Class 1 and 2 dragons wont get elder
Too smol
I'm currently trying to passively Eldern my ASD and see if you can unlock the right Eldern with a passive Elder 😅
Where was this stated?
Everything, and I mean everything has been done to the poor crystals xD
Is that supposed to be a border? Never seen this
i am going to shove that crystal
yeah i think it is
yes
Well you can go through it
Yeah, you hit the north wall.

so last 2 redacteds are elder forest to get elder right?
but now the first 3
Why you think elder forest? The whole map is Forgotten Forest 🙂
Anyone figure it out yet?
negativ
darn
appareantly it has multiple steps so chances of finding it are low
mhhh
Well I lost all my dragons due to clans with "fair fights" such as 1v5
my fav is 1v9
So anything class 3 and above = elder? So even the hybrids will ghet elder?
Yes :3
Even hybrids??? NICE
Oop Idk why I was thinking of behemoths when I read hybrids. Behemoths will be able to elder- not sure about hybrids but I would assume so 
I just discovered a secred area under a rock at the end of the other river ( it's not under br)
it could be useful to something, but you have to literally glitch into there
there might be more of those places?
If you have to glitch, it aint it
yea I had to glitch into it
Then it aint that place
probably not intended and should be reported
What we have confirmed right now tho is;
1# Nothing is above the clouds or under the water.
2# Crystals are not doing anything.
3# Jellyfish flying around has no effect at all.
4# The Northern Lights are useless.
5# Calling on the game's highest point is not giving anything.
6# Nesting, calling, etc, at different locations on the map is not doing anything.
What I have in mind - If it is a specific place, it MUST be on the ground so the Acid Spitter can also reach the elderly stage. If that is not the case, the Acid Spitter has something on ground level, and the creatures who can fly must have something that the Acid Spitter can't reach.
Another idea could be that you have to roleplay as a dragon and do what they do. Basically, grow and take care of your clan/group. This can possibly not be the case since a specific dragon in the future will do that for a living.
Jao mentioned: SO GUYS, you have to REDACTED REDACTED REACTED, then you obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REACTED.
You have to "go to a place" to reach the elder stage, and there could be multiple stages of reaching the elder since Jao said "REDACTED" multiple times.
Or maybe he just wanted to say "redacted" many times xD bc in one of the screenshots he only said redacted once 😅
At least he mentioned that you have to go somewhere
Yeah and that you have to do something first not get something first
Yeh that is what I said?
Could be but doesn't have to be that is the problem
I was saying the other part lol
we have no hints
Idk atp
oh yeah lmao
Oh alright
Well, if it has multiple steps to do it, then it's gonna be hard
"You have to be social, agile, and scavenge, then you can go to [place] to get a tick" Maybe it's this?
Could be why not
i dont think so, how should this work then?
The problem in my head is this: when he is right, it also means if the previous tasks arent as hard as it could be, people could elder their dragons in hours when the last condition would be to go some specific place and getting instand elder.
Also how should this method be grindable? repeatadly doing the same steps, getting to the same spot, rinse and repeat?
this sounds sus in my brain
dude IF JAO LIKES AVATAR... someone needs to try this... mate with someone at the tree near waterfalls 🙂
If you know avatar...the blue people youll know what I mean 😉
That is true yeah... its hectic ngl
I know
maybe we missunderstand the last redacted and its not a special place and more like a position condition itself like "being near Crystals" as example and not a specific place itself.
mhhh but can we trust this hint?
Up to test
i dont know. He said: No hints. he also said the things in the screenshot.
maybe it should mislead everyone so we need more time
The thing in the screenshot is the only thing we have
probably in patreon chat?
That is all we have atm
Nah no way.
That aint fair for the community
well that's where he told about the new elder point system too
I didn't know tht until now
I don't know for sure
Hmmmm
but I haven't seen that discussion anywhere
That would be hella unfair for the community
He's not said anything about it in any chats
or maybe a KS discussion, bc I think the colour of "Mazyday" is KS dc colour 🤔
then where's that screenshot from? 😅
@compact berry why don't I have my patreon role?
You need to connect your pareon and discord in patreon settings
Wiil do!
i don't think we can 100% go off the order of his quote either. from the one where he said "you have to REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED then you obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED." he has also said "if you want to elder then you must REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED"
the ONLY correlation between the quotes is three REDACTED in a row. sooooo
literally
xD
we'll either figure it out or we won't lol
I think we won't 
we might, we might not....as long as we're playing the game and having fun in the process it's a win/win
Facts
Yeah
keep strong its not joever yet
Nothing is joever
I've been thinking about it; wonder if you have to reach a certain % first of elder through gameplay
possible
Hey so idea
maybe we are thinking about star wars too much
what are most of the dragons in this game based off of?
SS= night fury. IR= Monstrous nightmare, and so on
ASD= dog 
well there are similar ones ok idk
At this point, I will honestly be quite surprised if there is an eldering method other than just naturally growing accessable in game right now
so with the increased growth rate on my server our ticks are 1.4. I've logged in twice for ticks (missed a few) and my elder rate is 4.1.... which is not divisible by 1.4
is it the same tick every time?
Well passives should be
Then I've got a tick and I don't know where it came from
Yup thats why I couldnt find it
I should be at 2.8 bc I'm pretty sure they don't carry over, but I have an extra tick of 1.3
If they did carry over I would be one tick higher than that
essentially I went from 1.4 to 4.1 today
what is the increased growth rate?
we are at 1.5x rate so instead of ticks of .8/.9 we get ticks of 1.4
at least for IR
Maybe it carried over and I miscounted
or maybe I forgot how many times I logged in
I'm a little fuzzled atm from the cold lol
mmm I was definitely 1.4 when I logged in I remember looking
it's all correct, bc the tick are 1.35, but they ofc are rounded up. So you actually have 4,05, which rounds up to 4.1
0.9x1.5=1.35
I did log in for a tick last night. I remember. Perhaps the counter did not update
its been like that for me
don't mind meee I'm just tired lmao
you have 3 ticks now: 1.35x3=4.05
and the ticks are not specific time, the ticks come every time you have logged in after 12 hrs 🙂
i have another big theory to be tried. i just need an adult dragon in some PvP server
do you wanna share or test first? 🙂
hmmmmm i really think its a big chance its actually real, wouldnt tell untill i test it so my idea doesnt get stolen 😛

anyone here an admin in unofficial server that could help growing me to adult and test it out?
I hope you all the best 😄
Or just high kill count?
Or one of every species,
I beliee those theories have been done
i dont have any INSANE idea out of the box i just
i just thought of "roleplaying the dragon", all dragons are carnis, and what a carni would consider an achivement to be an alpha (its what it shows when an elder, in DM it does)
...
?
Ive definately murdered one of ever species, babies and adults XD
pvp mode
Nah wouldn't make sense lol
i mean im sorry to yall PvE players but yall think being an ELDER would be by mass nesting, i would think it envolves KILLING and DOMINANCE
My server focuses around Rp/PvP in a Semi-Realism focus loosly based around the lore thats accessable for DoD, RPing the dragons in their natural forms with some freedom for creative differences so its something we can test and look into
i think it is something to find, and not focused on pvp when there's pve modes
MY BRAIN IS EXPLODING WHAT ELSE DIDNT WE FIND QWAEUIHAWDAWEs
im so lost what could be the thing
maybe a floating small thing somewhere in the skies
that u gotta be scanning the map to find...
Ive been across the entire skybox 
Nah, must be on land if we didn't find it
Damn your perceptions of dragons are narrow.
nope just tryna assest my theory lol
im aware that dragons arent just killing machines
we have determined that this cannot be the case as pve servers arnt pvp, and if that were the case i think we would already have some info on it from the pvp players (or other players that notice something)
all we know is you have to do something then go to a location
I would like to bump Eons cryptic application to elder again. Its the closest to the 3 step system we have by far
the one that was supposedly told to "stop?" cause that was sus
The one that said he was DMing the Devs Lmaoo
right
Yeah, I find the claim very sus, that Jao of all ppl would ask them to stop 😅
"the owner told me to stop" mmmm doubtful
Yes, what they described was close to a 3 step plan to elder and I like to keep diggin into it. The time of day is key and makes it a pain to reveal
except what they were saying didn't translate well, and also could have been taken as "doesn't matter if it's day or night"
They said time doesnt matter and its in the waters
and being called in a circle
Someone who spoke the language came in an translated
They said it can be in the morning or night as far as i remeber
"You're going to have to go around in circles (this is a saying that means to look around)
it can be at night, it can be in the morning
I don't even know the specific time but it's in the waters there
do you know the coordinates? : not different"
The circle thing was an expression of speach, like youre going to feel like youre running in circles
MagicGoats translation
can someone do a quick summary whats going on rq? tad bit lost
are we going off of some random person who claimed the devs said something?
an older someting that happened
Someone was in here a few days ago said they knew how to elder Said that message above ^ Then told us Jao was in his DMs telling him to stop then he left
I just want to emphasize that this is literally the closest we are to figuring out eldering, rather than starting from nothing. They had 20%+ in their SS 2 days ago
*FS
They were also on a private x2 server
at that time, even 2x wouldn't have that from passive
It would if they were getting both ticks a day
right
after 3 days 20+ eldering isn't possible
im skeptical, very skeptical
we were only at the.....what, 3-4 full day mark
math was done then
and was it proven to be impossible?
was not possible with passive at that short amount of time in
interesting
then im not as skeptical then
BUT, whats the "info" we got rn from this mystery person
first day was delayed relese, so at most like 1 passive tick then right. then sunday, monday and tuesday.....i think it was around tues/wed when this person popped up
2x server IR passive tick is 1.8% per
so two ticks a day would be 3.6%
so its confirmed that 20% is not possible in that time?
If youre admin grown alot of people get first tick right then
So this screenshot is from EON. He posted this along with the google translated message of " It starts with the water nearby here ". The location he was refering too was 500Stouth x 610West. Its a large opening with a fallen log / a large out of place red wood tree right next to a lake. This was the first area I tested.
EON, then posted another message which was translated into something about the two craters and a giant lake. This location was 690North x 690West. Again. I also tested there.
Stolen from Mr.Yolo
the translation is above, I sent it again. He talked Cebuano only
3 days of passive elder on a 2x server is total 10.8% plus the possible one tick from saturday = 12.6%
that is not completely true, he never talked about craters
oh shoot theres actual image proof
thats the newest Ik of
i thought it was just words we were going off of
that's from that person days ago
ok so i believe it now
Everyone was all over that area and water and found nothing
exactly
right
it stemmed a huge search
that screenshot is from elder forest
nothing
maybe they know what it is, but are tossing everyone in the wrong direction
also possible
Perhaps but they left the server
their english was not good so that didn't help
to hit 20.7% on a 2x server getting both passive ticks it would take 5.75 days
on IR
but thats why I say its the closest to the 3 step system, we have
wheres there message at exactly? im pretty decent at reading broken english
there was also a cheater called Smaug. so Eon might have also cheated 🤷♀️
the issue is that what they dsaid didn't spawn any leads
They wrote it in their own language not in english
this has nothing to do with eldering😭
it wasn't in english
oh
Its so much more...
they said their english was bad and we were all like "we'll use google translate"
it didn't make it any less confusing tho
And then magicGoat translated it, bc they knew Cebuano
"You're going to have to go around in circles (this is a saying that means to look around)
it can be at night, it can be in the morning
I don't even know the specific time but it's in the waters there
do you know the coordinates? : not different"




