New Elder System

[wintry turtle]

So I had a thought about the elder system🤔

[waxen glen]

The dragon's glow from bio is different based on their element, and as it's purely cosmetic from a purely cosmetic dragon, I highly doubt you'd be required to be glowing from said dragon to get an elder tick, as that would put a little too much weight on Bios to begin with /gen

[languid spoke]

i think bio breath glows matching crystals could be unrelated to eldering

[turbid copper]

exactly this

[languid spoke]

unless you're thinking that shows which crystals match the element of the dragon. which, again, could be unrelated to eldering and just be cosmetic. the crystals could be "elemental crystals" but have no real purpose

[wintry turtle]

So in swg pre NGE(?), you had to max out most classes to unlock a force sensitive slot. What if we have to have an adult version of each dragon?🤔

[compact kindle]

Thats not possible to do in the game max mutation is 7

[wintry turtle]

No I mean, maturing to adult on all dragon species

[compact kindle]

You cant even max out one without reaching elder

[tame crest]

iirc it was 5 professions

[compact kindle]

Thats been achieved, has made no difference

[compact kindle]

Id like to be an IR Lumberjack please

FS Chef

[tame crest]

One of the professions let you literally be an entertainer.

[languid spoke]

Ss designer

[wintry turtle]

Lemme be a baywatch lifeguard bio

[tame crest]

Image Designer was another that let you customise other players.

[compact kindle]

This one wins

[bleak python]

Jao wants this game to be social. He put clans in the game for people to group up and play together. There's a grouping system for a reason. Hasn't it also been stated we should be working together to figure it out. That for all anyone ever knows is a hint in itself.

I'm just not going to rule it out just yet until the questions I asked earlier have been tested. Especially with the star wars references in the lore. That's just me, and everyone else can disagree. But until we know, we don't know and shouldn't be ruling everything out because a few tests didnt work. There's probably still missing pieces.

Sorry I'm tired so if there's typos or anything, please forgive

xD

[waxen glen]

Not many colors to chose from when it comes to pre-made assets that glow and fit the setting, so I agree here with Ealasaid. Not to say that the crystals have nothing to do with eldering, but we've tried everything for 2-3 days around crystals now so I doubt they'd be so significant

[compact kindle]

Id agree if we didnt spend 4 days doing everything to crystals already, the theories are getting to advanced to be reasonable

[bleak python]

Have you ever played mmos

There are mechanics in them where one teammate has to do something while another does something else.

[rain lynx]

Well, I don't think it can be clan related since there are clanless servers.

[bleak python]

Such as stand on a pressure plate or something while the other goes through a door

[compact kindle]

This isnt an RPGMMO its a Survival Sim

Its not comparible they run on different mechanic systems

[bleak python]

It's going to have questing; its gonna be a survival rpg

[compact kindle]

Only on Fantasy mode which we do not have

[languid spoke]

I know Jao wants it to be a social game, but the mechanic of eldering should not be tied down to a group activity. I don't see that as doable in a game where people are allowed so many different play styles

[tame crest]

Survival mode won't have quests.

[waxen glen]

The point is that eldering will not be that hard for solo players vs clans, and will not be as campable as the shrooms were. That much we do know. It was the whole reason elder shrooms were removed to begin with

[bleak python]

additionally jao likes mmos iirc so it wouldnt surprise me if there WERENT things that you have to cooperate on to do

solo players group up all the time and survive together at hatchie ponds

[tame crest]

Given that Jao likes/liked playing SWG and City of Heroes yeah I think he does

[waxen glen]

So it required to hinge on limited locations like the crystal spots is contradictory of the point of redoing the elder system

[bleak python]

for all we know you gotta have one at each color spread out through the map singing songs and it unlocks a magical door under something

it could literally be anything lol

[languid spoke]

I haven't seen a sing emote sooooo

[compact kindle]

No one would achieve elder if the enitre server needed to work together man lol

[bleak python]

dont rule out having to work together to unlock something just bc "solo" players dont like clans

[waxen glen]

We gave it a shot anyway for 2-3ish days anyway since there was no harm in trying. That's way more people than you think trying anything they could think of around crystals on many different servers.

[tame crest]

Except that it'd have to be something that can be done on servers that don't have clans as an option.

[compact kindle]

There ARE clanless official servers?

[bleak python]

solo players still make friends and group up in this game

[wintry turtle]

I'm just a solo player cause no clans will have me 🥲

[bleak python]

they still nest

[waxen glen]

Specifically this

[tame crest]

Grouping maybe but clan specific no.

[bleak python]

im not even talking about CLANS working together or a LARGE group

[compact kindle]

Ill adopt you

[waxen glen]

Nesting was already tried by crystals

[bleak python]

it could be as small as 3 people needing to do something all at the same time in different locations

[waxen glen]

Was one of the first things I and many others tried

[compact kindle]

Thats been done

Every PVE server lol

[languid spoke]

If the crystals end up having anything to do with eldering I will be surprised since Jao didn't want it to be campable and crystals are hella campable.

[stable comet]

You'll become THE Jedi Dragon

[bleak python]

there's ways to make them not campable

[wintry turtle]

Luke, I am not your father

[tame crest]

Crimson blitz basically looks like Darth Maul so

[wintry turtle]

I need

[stable comet]

Luke I am not paying Child Support

[languid spoke]

Ok, you go test all those theories and questions you asked and let us know the results then. Cause we have tried everything.

[waxen glen]

They're campable right now, and the elder system supposedly works right now.

So that's not quite right /gen

[bleak python]

but yall take anything i say and turn it into other things so ima just not try to explain my theory anymore lol

like i said solo players still nest and someone said it has nothing to do with nesting when that wasnt what i was talking about

[compact kindle]

Anything that requires sitting or returning to the same location whether be it in time intervals or otherwise IS campable

Especcially caves with one or two entrees only, just pincer attack and block exits its a regular used PvP Mechanic

[languid spoke]

To expand on that: anything that is trackable is campable (i.e. flying or traveling a certain route or performing a task in a certain order)

[compact kindle]

Yes but less so if its not needed on a specific time, if theres a route or track to follow yes theres still a risk but less so if you arent having to return at the same time as the whole server

[bleak python]

if everything had been tried; we'd know how to do it by now.

[cinder musk]

Campable would indicate something that happens on a timer. I believe what we are looking for is something that is triggered.

[compact kindle]

Or an item / location thats maditory to be at

[languid spoke]

Very true!

[wintry turtle]

Simba is on to something

[languid spoke]

Agreed

[wintry turtle]

https://tenor.com/view/the-big-yeet-rafiki-simba-lion-king-yeet-gif-15536006

[turbid copper]

lmaooo

[stable comet]

Looool

[waxen glen]

We haven't tried everything, but we have tried a whole lot around crystals and the community focused really hard on it for 2-3 entire days. Since there was legitimately nothing that came out of crystals to give us anything to work off of, we don't have much choice but to give up on hyperfocusing on them for now

[compact kindle]

Given all the hints and ideas and theories we have crafted in this thread, all the attempts and references made, and of course the failures I am standing firm on Eldering is passive only. The trials are growing and surviving each day, What do dragons do? Just that but they all have their own personalities or even behaviours based on species, you use bile, you sleep, you think, you plan, your stratagize, you simply just live, and create broods, you simply exist and over time you becoem wiser, smarter and eventually elder with time and experience

[languid spoke]

So it could be something triggered, now the question comes up of what/where/how.

If it is a where, does the location randomly move? (to avoid being campable)
Is it dragon specific?

[bleak python]

It wouldn't be a where, that's still campable even if it can move.

Set spawns are trackable.

[waxen glen]

Not that crystals were even specifically stated to be important to begin with. They were shiny and new so a lot of people jumped to focusing on them, and that's alright since we don't exactly have any other good hints right now

[languid spoke]

It could be a where if the locations spawn randomly. Then it becomes luck

[wintry turtle]

Crystals are just there to look pretty and make your dragon glow in the caves

[bleak python]

Not if the random locations are patternized.

Which most games with random locations, are.

[languid spoke]

If they're patterned then they are not random

[stable comet]

I don't think crystals or bugs are doing anything atp

[waxen glen]

And then they become campable again

[languid spoke]

But again, pretty much anything is campable if you try hard enough

[waxen glen]

If the community has shown anything, it's that they aren't scared of spending a whole week in one spot to figure out the exact timing of shrooms down to the second

[languid spoke]

exactly

😂

[compact kindle]

Cries in nearly 100 hours in the new update alone

[wintry turtle]

Meee toooooo

[languid spoke]

If anything this has achieved higher play hours for the game lol

[waxen glen]

Ayy

[compact kindle]

Im going to turn RP mode on in my server and get everyone to name their Dragon Luke and we will make a clan called Skywalker

And we will spend the day sitting in group meditation

[wintry turtle]

Spend the day walking in the skies

[stark geyser]

Sounds like that'll make understanding your family tree impossible lol

[stable comet]

I really feel like the system is in the game but just not actually turned on

[tame crest]

"ah yes, lukes all the way up"

[wintry turtle]

Tbff, it's already impossible. My grandma is also my sister on my IR

[compact kindle]

Shh its okay, we will manage

[compact kindle]

I am my own grandfather and father

[languid spoke]

If it's off of "natural" dragon behaviors.....what, hunt, eat, sleep, mate, raise young......

[wintry turtle]

Keeping the bloodline pure 💅🤌

[compact kindle]

Hoard also, Items and knowledge

[waxen glen]

It's entirely possible if it is based on "random location", that they gathered a large handful of locations, numbered em, threw em in a hat and got some rng going to help spice it up, I've seen something like that in indie games before

[stark geyser]

Roaring a lot?

[compact kindle]

[languid spoke]

If we had things to hoard 😂

[compact kindle]

Hoard the children for now, and the bugs

[wintry turtle]

Hoard bugs, ez

[languid spoke]

Is that tho? I feel like that's a human thing lol

[compact kindle]

Make a den, fight with your life to keep it

[waxen glen]

But we don't have enough hints yet to narrow things down

[compact kindle]

We dont have any hints to really start tbh

[stark geyser]

Makes me feel more dominant as a dragon lol

[compact kindle]

At least we ruled out some things tho

[waxen glen]

Ayy

[languid spoke]

Roaring should be used for communication right? Sooo, yes and no? Random roaring, nah...but to communicate? yes

[compact kindle]

FS Whale noises INTENSIFIES

[stable comet]

You gotta be your own parents and grandparents

[compact kindle]

I have achieved this! I am the true elder king

[waxen glen]

I tried so many things around crystals I was starting to mock myself yesterday

[compact kindle]

Listen, I spent an ENITRE day cycle sleeping on a mountain

[stable comet]

Has anyone tried bonking other dragon species?

[waxen glen]

Even tried eating a shroom, bringing a bug to a crystal cave, eating it nesting and roaring all in sequenced order

[languid spoke]

Didn't work with FS and IR

[turbid copper]

bro what

[compact kindle]

Yes

[turbid copper]

lol

[languid spoke]

They weren't into that

[stable comet]

Lol

[compact kindle]

Id like to make hybrids please

[wintry turtle]

Imagine that shadowscale with the giraffe neck of the fs

[stable comet]

LOL

[compact kindle]

SS with the FS neck/head

[compact kindle]

YES LOL

Bio x FS

[stable comet]

Bio x Blitz

[compact kindle]

Blitz body but with fs legs

[waxen glen]

That'd be kinda scary

[stable comet]

IR with bio legs

[waxen glen]

Lmao

[turbid copper]

ayo ayo let's stay on point here

[stable comet]

I meannnn it's kinda on point lol

[compact kindle]

Well does anyone have any theories that doesnt involve crystals or Jedi?

[stable comet]

Nope

Unless it's in one of the corners

[turbid copper]

i really ran out of ideas

[compact kindle]

I have touched every wall in this map

Viciously

[stable comet]

What about EVERY body of water

[compact kindle]

Yes, I have drank, swam in and peeked into every body of water

Even the alarmingly deep popcorn puddles

[stable comet]

Lol

[bleak python]

im currently looking into the "what do dragons do" theory i have and looking at real life dragons for ideas.

[turbid copper]

it has nothing to do with water

[stable comet]

Man atp I don't think it's on yet

Everyone has looked everywhere

Unless they quest is getting mela on our dragons unlocked

[compact kindle]

IVe been doing this too and trying some things but got no progress unfortunately, let me know if you find anything interesting

[stable comet]

Maybe we need to unlock mela then go somewhere to activate it

[turbid copper]

that doesn't makes sense

[compact kindle]

Cries in always the nester and never the nested

[stable comet]

I mean why wouldn't it

[ionic trench]

It can't have anything to do with unlocking mela because then KS would be exempt (or unable to elder at all)

[turbid copper]

exactly

[stable comet]

Bio gets all their points they can't elder dude

[ionic trench]

What does that have to do with what I said?

[tame crest]

they mean that a KS can't do the mela quest because we already have mela.

There's nothing to unlock.

[compact kindle]

KS has Mela already unlocked with no quest

[wintry turtle]

Meeee toooooooo

[stable comet]

Yeah but even so what if you need to unlock the normal mela

[stark geyser]

Theres only one mela

[turbid copper]

still no

[compact kindle]

You summoned all the KS members

[stable comet]

It's better than nothing

[turbid copper]

Wouldn't make sense to unlock a skin so you can elder lol

[stark geyser]

I'm just lurking, waiting for when some actual progress is going to be made

[compact kindle]

Plus Eldering progress will only happen on the dragon you are currently player, so that would mean only Melan could elder

[bleak python]

so far im looking into komodo dragons

[compact kindle]

This is what I do but end up in the convo when someone mentions somethging weve already done several times XD

[stark geyser]

Lol or just to try and curve the discussion back on track

[compact kindle]

I am 110% guilty for derailing brain go BRRR a Mach 10

[mellow dawn]

What about setting waypoints as an interaction? Maybe they have a deeper connection with certain spots on the map?

[compact kindle]

I love this idea because I use these everywhere I get lost alot but I feel its unlikely

[compact kindle]

This one has been posted before

[minor hinge]

ok i dint kown so i remove it

[compact kindle]

Didnt have to delete! Just lettknow you know

[minor hinge]

what about teh drakes looting the pearls

[compact kindle]

Loot is not enabled atm thats fantasy server only we are running on survival

[minor hinge]

i know the was ads kill the thornback in test so that dont cont for pvp or pve or Cvc

the thornback drop the pearls

[compact kindle]

They dont right now, because maps are set to survival mode, which will not allow loot drops

[minor hinge]

ok

[compact kindle]

It coems in one of the future updates, tho Im not sure which one

[minor hinge]

ok so i count that out for eldering

[compact kindle]

For now yeah, Its possible later one that there will be pearls with growth boosters or something but right now its not possible

[minor hinge]

👍

[vernal cargo]

A hint would be amazing by now since every theory so far is not turning out to be proven viable whatsoever.
It seems like its nothing visible and requires, in my opinion, a audio clue or to be in certain spots on the map wich is by itself pretty barebones in terms of interactable assets.
The time of day is probably something to look at as well with the elemental planet in the sky. So far there is nothing to grab onto and build up on.

[oak goblet]

ye, its not very motivating when we havent made any progress what so ever. So im personally gonna just forget about eldering for now before i loose my sanity lol

[minor hinge]

all i kown like he did last time the hint was in the name of the map forgotten forest so was it the elder shroom? this time it jedi trials so you got do something all daragon can do for the trials

[lost lichen]

If it is impossible to understand or find how to become an elder, is the system at least well implemented at this time? It would be nice of them to tell us directly, rather than making us frustrated, right?^^

[turbid copper]

yeahh, it looks impossible to me tbh

[turbid yoke]

yeah i agree with that but I think past the frustration it's the thrill of finding the way to become an elder, but yeah right now we might be at a dead end, but i'm not against a hint

i mean, what's the fun if they tell us everything

[turbid copper]

Just a hint

[turbid yoke]

(i'm reviewing all the things we've gathered and i can't figure out anything yet)

Anyone here has Matt Pat's phone number or a way to get him on this case ? just saying

[lost lichen]

yes I agree for the pleasure of finding the path to becoming an elder, but for it to be so complicated if it's really implemented... it's not fun for a video game I think X'D

[turbid yoke]

and if it's been found by some on the pvp servs i'd hate them for gatekeeping it if they found it, ok it's a great advantage to be an elder in pvp but as a community, you either dont want to ruin the fun of the search or they're just keeping it for themselves and win the server

which could be understandable but i'd be a little mad

i just feel like we are a bunch of children around a Math project that we can't figure out

and some are gifted

but i am certainly not gifted in that matter, all i can do is help the search ^^

[sleek kelp]

It’s like solving x + y(z) = 25 and having to get numerical answers for all the variables when you don’t know what any of the variables are XD

[turbid copper]

true lol

[lost lichen]

I'm also trying to help with research, but finding nothing and seeing everyone in the same situation as me is quite discouraging... If the system is already implemented, then becoming an elder must be damn illogical X'D
I imagined that a dragon could achieve feats to become an elder, like making its first nest, going to the top of the highest mountain, going the highest in the sky, flying so many miles.... I tried most and nothing... I also tried to bring crabs of different colors to different crystals, nothing either... And like most players, I'm not going to spend my day in the game waiting for a certain moment to the day to do something specific, it's not necessarily viable X'D

[warped gull]

[lost lichen]

I would nevertheless try when it gets dark to drink from a pond which apparently changes color with the Northern Lights... that kind of thing could still be possible ^^

[warped gull]

[cold summit]

even putting points on every stat?

[turbid yoke]

Yeah I know, I think we might be all discouraged a bit, because if the search or our theories are wrong we get frustrated, I am frustrated a little but I’ll endure it it’s just a game where I can have a blast and find things on our own, having everything being told isn’t just fair (but I wish they’d tell us just a little something to help), but we’ll see I due time, for now we can just have fun and try for stats and skins and eventually we’ll find something (I’m awe fully positive these days something we’ll go wrong I’m so sure 😂😂)

[languid spoke]

i wouldn't mind a second hint lol

[turbid yoke]

I do feel like we’re all Anakin in front of the council when they tell him that they can’t grant the title of master

Like we’re all dragon but yeah no yeah nooo yeah nooo

[somber shuttle]

was the Jedi trials an actual hint from Jao?

[turbid yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/helluva-boss-deerie-yeah-no-sorry-gif-22872932

[lost lichen]

What was the first hint? ^^

[languid spoke]

the star wars reference

it's been heavily discussed with no luck

[lost lichen]

ha^^' that doesn't help me, I don't really know Star Wars XD

[languid spoke]

me either, but there are a lot of conversations about it in this thread

i watched the movies but never played the games so i'm lost on it

[turbid yoke]

What if we’re digging to much into it

Like it’s a ref ok

But is it that way or is it something we must deserve

[languid spoke]

i'm not sure star wars is linked to it at all

oop, i shall return to this, lunch time

[somber shuttle]

Thats why I was wondering if that was an actual hint, or if he just said something that people thought was a hint?

[turbid yoke]

I think we went to much into that so called hint

[fair turret]

I mean it could be the Trial of the Flesh

you have to be in a lotta pain or somethin

maybe constantly ramming headfirst into walls until you're minimum hp?

[sick escarp]

If that were it, many including myself would have found out by accident

[turbid yoke]

yeah the trees would've helped us all already

[whole hearth]

Done that quite a few times...got nothin

[fair turret]

I got nothin

Maybe we have to "Force" Whatshisname to tell it lmao

only other star wars stuff I can think of

[earnest root]

What star wars suggestions have been made?

[fair turret]

Kyber crystals turned out to be a dead end... Not really sure what else truly star warsy has been done

I put forward the idea of Han Solo relatedness but didn't really think I'd get that far so didn't expand on it

[turbid yoke]

we talked about the possibilities of bloodlines and how it could carry more "cells" to become elder buts thats a dead end too

[mellow dawn]

Are there any paths that might serve as a challenge to travel? Maybe it is with distance but you have to “master the land/sky” by flying or running through certain parts on the map. Kinda like a trial

[languid spoke]

not so sure on that, my friend made a challenge of flying through the cave on the end of the river going towards center island......

and we had him and two others doing it...challenging but no elder progress lol

[minor hinge]

Trials were a test of power and intellect, designed to challenge an individual Jedi’s strengths and weaknesses. No two trials were the same

[languid spoke]

it may not even be related to star wars in such a literal way or at all lol

with all the theories and tests that have been done....

[turbid copper]

i don't think it is at all

bc it wasn't a hint

[languid spoke]

that's the conclusion i'm coming to as well

i think it was just something he said in passing

[turbid copper]

an example

[languid spoke]

right

like "oh yea it's like becoming a jedi" but not the same

[turbid copper]

I still think it's something that spawns randomly on the map and it's hard to find or something

[languid spoke]

i'm on the fence with that.......

[turbid copper]

or something that you have to trigger

but yea idk

[languid spoke]

i feel like becoming elder should require some thinking and skill right

but not sure about anything completely random as that then makes it luck based. so, maybe it will seem random until it is learned or the pattern identified

if that makes sense?

[turbid copper]

yea maybe it's a pattern

[languid spoke]

so thus far: we've found nothing on the map that we can actually interact with

nor found any reactions in many tested locations

also nothing from common activities such as hunting, eating, nesting, flying

[turbid copper]

yeah and the woods are literally empty

[languid spoke]

right

we've flown to the ceiling, and into the walls

dived down into the waters

explored craters

[turbid copper]

ya i flew into the invisible wall lmao

[languid spoke]

same

more than once

[low pond]

possible that you have to stay connected for a certain number of hours? by never staying in the same place for more than a certain time?

[mellow dawn]

I think it might have something to do with the throne looking formation but I haven’t been able to access it yet

[languid spoke]

possible but i feel like some people would have gotten something on that by now

[languid spoke]

where at?

[turbid copper]

you can't even go there

it's the wall

[languid spoke]

gotcha

[low pond]

maybe there is a passage?

[languid spoke]

also, i am sure plenty of people have nested in tons of others that had to grow naturally, so nesting highly unlikely at being part of it unless there is some small thing we've missed there

[celest knoll]

maybe jao is a secret wow nerd and the throne resembles the frozen throne from lichking, so we hav eto raid the throne all togheter to activate elder grow.

[turbid copper]

Nah man, that "throne" thing, it's just glitched ground

[languid spoke]

i believe map border at this time is legit just map border with no way out

we live in a box

[compact kindle]

I dont see the resemblance

[celest knoll]

Throne = Frozen Throne, its all the same.

[turbid copper]

There's no throne, other than that on the mountain that was in legacy too

[minor hinge]

but if take fist part i sent add to this

ey was later mentored in the ways of the Force by Leia in a Padawan-like relationship. Leia challenged her with grueling obstacle courses, mediation, and studying ancient Jedi texts to complete her training.

[compact kindle]

Ive played WoW for 20 years, if youre talknig about the brokie ground outside the borders I cant see the throne look on it

[languid spoke]

we liked to call it kidnap rock 😂

[turbid copper]

lol

[minor hinge]

obstacle courses

[languid spoke]

again, we've had people flying through the cave at the end of the river going towards center island and they got nothing lol

other than needing to be healed a lot

[compact kindle]

A stone tablet of carved text is hidden somewhere on the map with clues to elder, check every rock!

[languid spoke]

oh and flying through the big log

[compact kindle]

(Joke)

[languid spoke]

both ways

[carmine shoal]

do the caves with particals do anything

[languid spoke]

i've flown into many of them 😂

particles?

[compact kindle]

I flew into the waterfalls thinking there was a cave behind them by the way the light and shadows were lol

[languid spoke]

omg same! i'm glad that wasn't just me

[carmine shoal]

some of them have little growy orbs around them

[languid spoke]

also tried swimming to them

[compact kindle]

Nope

[languid spoke]

i think those are just fire flies?

[carmine shoal]

diffrent caves have diffrent colors

[compact kindle]

Island does too its just to add some life to the map they are fireflies

[carmine shoal]

what i we color match it

if

[compact kindle]

They are all pink for me

[turbid copper]

[languid spoke]

yea but the crystals themselves are different colors, could be something but pretty sure it's just aesthetics

[carmine shoal]

i see green and blue and red

[languid spoke]

mine are all pink

[compact kindle]

Fireflies??

[carmine shoal]

something in the cave makes it had tiny things floating around all the same color

[compact kindle]

The floating things, those are fireflies

[languid spoke]

to explore this, since you brought it up: have you tried interacting with them or trying different actions near them to get a reaction

[carmine shoal]

what if we color match the fireflys to a dragon

since each cave has a diffrent color of fireflys or none at all

[languid spoke]

all of mine are the same color tho

[compact kindle]

There are no pink dragons tho

[turbid copper]

You don't have to color match anything, wouldn't make sense

[digital isle]

what would happen if the crystals began to activate once a certain amount of elder grow had been reached (therefore practically a sort of "experience" in the game)?

[languid spoke]

can you show us the other colors in screenshot?

uh.....complex, can't rule anything out that hasn't been tried/proven. but does that mean you have to passively elder until then? @digital isle

[digital isle]

Yeah

Idk it's a theory

[languid spoke]

it would suck to have to passively elder to gain ability to actively elder lol

[compact kindle]

If its a milestone type deal, 20,25 and 50 would be good points to look around for anything new I suppose

Most have already reached 10

[languid spoke]

what % growth do we get the mutation ticks are we're growing

[digital isle]

If I understand correctly, the Jedi game is also based on experience, right? so since we need to make sure that pve and pvp players have the same possibility it wouldn't be bad also if it is true that echo said that lusewing has already shown the system

[compact kindle]

No idea havnt gotten one I assumed it was at the end

[languid spoke]

i do believe you get at least one in hatchling phase?

[compact kindle]

Oh all of them

[languid spoke]

i recall hatching and seeing it say i have a mutation point available

[compact kindle]

Hatchie juvi adult atm

[languid spoke]

at the beginning of the growth phase?

[celest knoll]

yes

[compact kindle]

Yeah

[languid spoke]

ok, so then that kinda wouldn't follow suit to have it be the same for elder to begin the process

i was thinking if it was at a specific % (like 15, etc) that it could be applied to eldering (in some way)

[tame crest]

You get 3 points now, so presumably hitting elder milestones gets you those other 4 points including that 4th one for your "mastery".

[compact kindle]

Unless its You start with one then one at end of hatchie one at end of juvie nad one at end of "adult" (Eldered)

[languid spoke]

to adult, we get 3.....after hatching, when we hit juvie, and when we hit adult...right?

[compact kindle]

Theres 7 mutations total tho

[compact kindle]

Yes

[languid spoke]

sooooo, the 4th mutation would theoretically follow suit and click in at beginning of elder. but it doesn't

unless they put the age milestone at a different % than the other life stages. but some people have already hit in the teens on % right? and none have seen any changes in things they can interact with on the map

[compact kindle]

Originally it was unlocked via Biome question, every biome had its own quest (youd earn up to 7 total mutation points) I dont know if that idea was scrapped

Forgotten Forest quest was the elder shroom

[languid spoke]

i genuinely can't see them making it so you have to passive elder to a certain % before the ability to actively elder is available/revealed in game

[tame crest]

Survival mode won't have quests though.

[compact kindle]

Eat one and you finish the quest to get a point

[languid spoke]

yea, so.....did they make a different elder system per server type? per dragon type? oooor universal

[compact kindle]

Technically already does

[carmine shoal]

so this cave would be for ss

[compact kindle]

Its not

The caves have been tested

[languid spoke]

tested for?

results?

[compact kindle]

Nesting, Sleeping in, killing thigns

Eating food, Logging out

[languid spoke]

side trail: which quests?

[mellow dawn]

I’m not sure they would restrict the species of dragons to caves especially when we wants us to work together.

[compact kindle]

Melan is considered a quest

[languid spoke]

i knew that lol

[compact kindle]

Besides caves are campable to the max

[languid spoke]

yes

[compact kindle]

Easy bait and trap

I cant english right now im struggling lol

[languid spoke]

now if it were visiting caves in a certain order, perhaps? as part of it? buuuut

[languid spoke]

you and me both

out of curiousity, have we id'd all of the currently accessible caves on the map?

[carmine shoal]

it would making growing elder hard which i think they dont want everyone to grow elder off that bat easy

[mellow dawn]

So kinda like migrations travel around the map?

[languid spoke]

kinda?

[compact kindle]

They said they didnt want a campable method like the mushrooms were thats the whole point of changing the system

Otherwise keep the mushies

[limber valve]

For the mutation points each dragon gets 7 in total. Hatchie (1) Juvie (1) Adult (1) - 25% Elder (1) 50% Elder (1) 75% Elder (1) 100% Elder (1) = 7 Mutation points with the exception of the bio who gets all 7 by adult stage since they cannot elder.

[languid spoke]

i'm thinking, maybe get all of the caves on a list right with coords. test it by running them in different orders

[compact kindle]

Get people moving instead of sitting in the same hotspoits

[languid spoke]

see if that does anything

[compact kindle]

Ooohh there it is

[low pond]

after everything that has been tried the only thing that works and passive growth, if there is a reference to how to become a Jedi or something like that, that would mean that patience and the key to power and therefore the time spent in the game, the challenges can be interpreted apart from having to eat and drink.

So be it, there really is something other than patience,
Either we were too influenced by what the devs said and like Luffy we set out in search of one peace and the devs watched us struggle and explore 100% of the map, perhaps an ingenious system to keep us patient until next update XD

[languid spoke]

thank you! i couldn't remember the new ones

[mellow dawn]

I also wouldn’t take any caves or less used landmarks to heart because he said any less used will change to attract more players

[compact kindle]

I said this earlier I dont think they liked that answer

[low pond]

ho srry i don't see

[compact kindle]

Nono Dont appologize Im happy ot see someone who agrees XD

[sly cedar]

How long could that be? What about players that can't stay on for hours and hours? Growing a nested all the way to adult without logging is one thing for a skin. And luckily any number of the smaller species make it faster, but to make that a requirement for the bigger dragons?? That would be a bit much imo... I don't think so.

[compact kindle]

There was no real confirmation that "Active" eldering was ever a thing, only the eldering was

[low pond]

yes sur :/

[compact kindle]

I have literally 100 hours since 1.0 launch thats roughly 16h a day Its not loggin time

[languid spoke]

lol

[sly cedar]

Hmm.... something that isn't campable... perhaps something in addition to the every 12 hour ticks..... the mushrooms were timed unmoving locations/items.... ... could this thing by more... mobile or dynamic? :0 have a personal cooldown so you can't just spam it?

[frail salmon]

Wrong. Even tho you don’t feel motivated and haven’t seen any progress, you shouldn’t give up. We will find out one day but until that day comes there is no backing up from it. This is not only related to the game, use this in your life as well.

[turbid yoke]

damn that hit way too close to home

[sly cedar]

Given how bare bones the game still kinda is.... it makes me think that it may be more connected to something time based... which could suck. But idk.

[compact kindle]

Basically Passive eldering, it is 12h time based

[turbid yoke]

Or how about we think "dragon"

[sly cedar]

I'm all for expanding the life pf your game, but locking something like that mechanic behind that long of a wall... idk.... :/ I suppose it beats some games with 24hr wall..

[stray notch]

guys i've been wondering
is eldering system questt thingy related to actually "roleplay" the dragon? who got any ideas?

[turbid yoke]

like how about we review all we can about dragons : we have Dnd, we have mythology, we have some lore they gave

[compact kindle]

All growth is timebased generally speaking, and I believe behemoths were meant to be even longer than the current passive grow, its not too bad tbh

[compact kindle]

Not all servers have "RP" enabled, most dont

[turbid yoke]

like what makes a dragon a "dragon"

[stray notch]

read what i wrote again lol

[compact kindle]

Thats a huge rabbithole of information, and the answer is everything and anything

[turbid storm]

Hording treasure, burning villages, eating sacrificial virgins

[stray notch]

im saying role play the dragon do smth realistic, dont mean RP game mode

[compact kindle]

There are thousands upon thousands of dragon lores, from games, FOlklore, Myths, Legends, Fairytales,

[compact kindle]

This is only the western varient

[stray notch]

ye bro never hears of asian dragons yet

[oak goblet]

Im just saying i dont feel like using energy on this anymore hehe. You are reading far too much into what i wrote :>

[compact kindle]

Eastern*

[sly cedar]

You could pull different cultures into this and you'd be surprised how different they can be. I had to do research on them for a Mythology course and college and wow did I learn some things. Christianity made dragons look bad. Eastern are benevolent and connected to water. 3toes made a difference compared to 4 toes. The list goes on. XD not even counting the modern fantasy stories or games today lol. That's a very broad category you will dive into. But a fun one.

[stray notch]

yes that

but take it easy nocturnalis

i dont mean like SO ACCURATELY

i just mean do something natural

[compact kindle]

Survive and live a long life XD

[stray notch]

and GAME related not IRL dragons lore etc

[turbid yoke]

yeah i know all of that, I've grown with a father obsessed with dragons

but im going through his books and gathering as much infos as i can

[sly cedar]

Tbf, those dragons in those games and whatnot are more than likely loosely based on the dragons of old from those myths and legends. :]

[stray notch]

just an example a small and one that i dont think is a real factor
being a fire element u gotta hang around hot places, maybe burn stuff a lot, eating some kind of dragons that fire dragons like to eat

[frail salmon]

What is the lore

[compact kindle]

Elementals are easy because they are just the elements of nature

They dont really have a large Mythology standing like Dragons do

[frail salmon]

Hahahha that is just how I am but I understand you

[stray notch]

okay so u might have to somehoe interact with "your" nature

[turbid yoke]

Well we do know for sure that the SS species tend to launch their offsprings from hights to see if they are strong enough to survive life in the wild

but it was made canon

[fair turret]

Lmfao

[turbid yoke]

because we all do it as all flying dragons

[compact kindle]

Dragon are like Fae and in many stories intermingle ALOT, the tales spun about them cross over all our history, we find things today still that reference stories of these beasts and creatures, that makes pinpointing specific traits hard

[fair turret]

Probably because we were always the one to steal hatchies

[compact kindle]

Because Dragons are just as if not more so diverse than humans are

[turbid yoke]

i mean we have an entire discord lore library with acces to it

[fair turret]

Tfw e rank human stats

admin slay pls

rr

[stray notch]

where?!

[compact kindle]

./slay

[fair turret]

yey

[stray notch]

hold on... yall remember ancient dragons in DoD?!?!?!?

[turbid yoke]

Check the lore library its like in the roleplay category on this discord

[stray notch]

remember when it was said they will be around some places?! they might be that friendly NPC that leads u to eldering

[turbid yoke]

and you can read it even if ur not a patreon

[compact kindle]

That would be implimented in Fantasy mode not Survival sadly

[languid spoke]

i've yet to see a single NPC

[compact kindle]

^

[languid spoke]

i've seen bugs

[compact kindle]

We had a bunch of people sweeping the map and found noone

[stray notch]

"fantasy" mode! is this real?

[compact kindle]

Yes, There is Fantasy settign and Survival setting

Fantasy enables quests, NPCs?, Lootables, Portals? and other things

[stray notch]

find a bug spown
protect the bug from hatchies
the bug becoms big
tells u the eldering method bc ur a nice dragon

lmao just imagine if that was true.

[languid spoke]

find me a nonagressive bug my guy

[stray notch]

just for it to be a meme

[languid spoke]

😂

[fair turret]

The little ones arent aggro

they just scitter scatter

[compact kindle]

There is a post somewhere in the void of discord about server config setup for server owners, It has a brief summary of Fantasy mode but its not accessable atm

[languid spoke]

i recall seeing that

once

[stray notch]

thats cool

[frail salmon]

Thanks

There must be something with the sky

[compact kindle]

The scorpion looking ones, they arent on the map they are admin spawn only atm

[fair turret]

oh

[compact kindle]

Weve combed the sky

[stray notch]

but IMO DoD rn is just in the same case as the isle if u guys know it
u can just grow, fight, upstat and... idk be a dragon? there isnt much activity? being an elder is probably THE ONLY fun thing to do and it ONLY helps with pvp atm... so eh

[turbid yoke]

or we're right about the fact that it depends on what spieces you are

[fair turret]

Why would you comb the sky it doesn't even have hair

[frail salmon]

Nah it must be something with the time

[languid spoke]

wait there was one that spawned in a cave i was wondering through

[compact kindle]

What are cloud if not hair

[fair turret]

Sky snot

[frail salmon]

I’m still thinking about the nothern lights

It makes the water green at one time point

Has anyone tried drinking the water when it’s green?

[fair turret]

No that's unsanitary

[compact kindle]

Which one?

[frail salmon]

What do you have in your mind?

[languid spoke]

the one with the dirt floor and pond in it...i can't recall the coords atm

[fair turret]

mating with the green water

[compact kindle]

Its jsut reflection the moon also makes it red when its overhead without clouds but yes Ive drank the water at night

[languid spoke]

it's got a larger entrance and small back exit

[fair turret]

heh

heheheh

[frail salmon]

Mmmmm

[compact kindle]

Near BR ?

[languid spoke]

i think so?

[fair turret]

I was hunting around the crater by ravine too, didn't see nothin

[frail salmon]

What about caves like @languid spoke said

[languid spoke]

i kinda did a lot of exploring when not nesting

[compact kindle]

Ive never seen a bug spawn in there

[fair turret]

it'd help to have a dedicated search team on a single server

just comb tf outta everything

[compact kindle]

I am my dedicated search team on my server LOL its all I do if Im not nesting

[frail salmon]

Do anyone have a server where we can grow to adult instantly and just explore and test stuff?

[languid spoke]

maybe was a glitch? it was right when myself and the other owner turned the server on...we were the only two on and we were together moving around

[compact kindle]

I have a server and were giving out grows until saturday

[fair turret]

Might I recommend grid square combing?

[languid spoke]

same, except i get stuck on nests

[compact kindle]

Oohhh Interesting

[frail salmon]

Could you DM me the discord link and the server name, I’ll grt on later tday

[compact kindle]

Sure

[compact kindle]

We typically only nest evenings so I have the whole day doing nothing but moving around the map... Mostly looknig for hiding spots XD

[turbid yoke]

Whether being dropped at high altitudes or encouraged to jump and glide from a high cliff, each species has their traditions, their customs, and their instincts to guide them. It is what makes each species unique, it is what makes them dragons.

quote the lore

[languid spoke]

not bad! i'm stuck at work 😂 and remoting in to my home pc all i am good for is nesting and admin commands cause uh, delay/lag lol

[fair turret]

Oh I forgot game has lore

I should read onthat

[turbid yoke]

In the world of Jrakhon, every dragonling must learn to fly. It is not only tradition, but necessary for survival. Flight is as natural for the dragon as swimming is for the drake.

[compact kindle]

One of the perks of Working from home I dragon on one screen work on the other Sob on my chair

[turbid yoke]

so each dragonflight should have its way

because "traditions"

[fair turret]

'cept drakes cos they dont fly innit

[turbid yoke]

yeah it is said

they swim

[compact kindle]

^

[fair turret]

Tf do they just drown the babies

[compact kindle]

Aquabois

[turbid yoke]

Xd

[fair turret]

metal af

[languid spoke]

dump the babies in the pond?

yeet them off a waterfall?

[fair turret]

Why not both?

[turbid yoke]

the waterfall XD

[fair turret]

disconcerting plooping noise as a thousand drake babies turn a pond into acid

[compact kindle]

I approve this

[fair turret]

anyways, mayhaps an army of ASD coming grid squares is the best approach for this

anything unusual screenshotted and shared for theorizing?

[languid spoke]

can't hurt

[compact kindle]

Gives us something to do while we passive

[languid spoke]

right

if i can get on when i get home from work i'll try and do some more searching

[stray notch]

i need to know where that is!

[languid spoke]

i'll include it in my list of places to look if i can get on later lol

[stray notch]

ppl fight in PVP servers
me as SS/bio: alright lets take another map tour untill i die

[compact kindle]

[fair turret]

how does a bio pvp

[compact kindle]

At night I jsut do loopies in the sky

[fair turret]

they just barf glow stuff on you

[compact kindle]

It sprays things to make it a target for others then runs

[fair turret]

Oh

Pfft

that's kinda funny

"JUMP THIS BOI" scitter

[compact kindle]

Thats how I use it, Spray, SCREAM run

[stray notch]

hold on in the river spot there is a bunch of ponds/rocks near ASD mushroom cave
there is a glitched closed entrace to a cave with water in it

[compact kindle]

Thats where the Death Pit is!

[languid spoke]

they did close off a lot of cave entrances that will be open later

[stray notch]

lol if u dont play pvp thats fr what pvp'ers use it for

[languid spoke]

there is also a spot above the waterfall where you can go under map

[stray notch]

to highlight targets, or maybe highlight the hurt one etc

[stray notch]

i got to that closed cave, its as big as BR cave or even bigger with a small puddle in it

this makes me more cofnused of WHY IS THERE LOTS OF CRYSTALS IN EVERY SINGLE CAVE

[compact kindle]

oohh Interesting

I remember mention of a whole undreground cave system at one point

[languid spoke]

aesthetics

[compact kindle]

Theres also an area near swamp that looks like itll open into a cave aswell

[compact kindle]

Because Biolumins & Shimmering Caverns

[waxen glen]

So within the idea of the "just do what drakes do" thing and within the idea of drakes swimming being natural.

[stray notch]

near swamp!!? u mean the one that had those croc things south of river! i gotta check that

[compact kindle]

Shimmering caverns are caves layered wiiiitthhhh shimmering crystals

[waxen glen]

Can drakes still submerge in the water?

[stray notch]

shiimering caverns?

and what does bio do with crystals?

[waxen glen]

Anyone just leave a drake in water for a long time yet?

[languid spoke]

look pretty

[compact kindle]

Yeah the wall of mountain seperating the barren plains with the river forest, theres a big square shape over there looks like a door, poked my head through and seen an open area

[waxen glen]

Darn

Was worth asking

[compact kindle]

Nothing its just native to their home enviroment, because they themselves shimmer and like lights

[stray notch]

oooh i've seen it from afar i gotta try my special powers into it
only when servers are up again

[stray notch]

makes sense

im just afraid of the cave system

[compact kindle]

Crystals in the caves are what the fireflies or jellies are around the forests, just abience to add to the map so its not barren emptiness

[stray notch]

hold on
i've never sen httyd since i was a little child, but in the trilogy when hiccup met his mom she had some HUGE cave where she saved dragons or smth? i gotta rewatch it rly.... anyways so does anyone think the cavesystem gonna be THAT big?

[languid spoke]

watch it not be anything at all to do with interacting with things on the map 😂

[compact kindle]

To fit a BEHEMOTH? good god

[languid spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/tight-squeeze-cats-funny-animals-gif-14286794

[compact kindle]

I dont think it is we are in a weird limbo between not thinking outside the box but also thinking so far out the box that its unreasonable

[edgy mulch]

so has any progress been made towards finding out the system>

[languid spoke]

what if we have to think inside the box

[edgy mulch]

?

[stray notch]

its either THAT
or its some tunnles that u cant fly through unless ur maybe a bio
means drakes are gods in there

[compact kindle]

Giving Drakes an upperhand would be ideal

[fading trench]

has anyone figured anything out yet

[languid spoke]

no

[compact kindle]

We probably do XD

[fading trench]

we are doing such a great job

[stray notch]

yup, i also cant wait for the more dense forests

[stray notch]

us rn :

https://tenor.com/view/in-the-shadow-josh-kiszka-greta-van-fleet-heat-above-hidden-man-gif-20518476

[turbid yoke]

welp i went through the all the lore i could read from the game and look what i found

[stray notch]

nope, just running circles untill jao says it out loud

[turbid yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/desert-tumble-weed-ghost-town-gif-11132442

[stray notch]

SHARE the wisdome

oh-

[turbid yoke]

yeah sorry

[compact kindle]

Yeah a few have said that now

[languid spoke]

my brain hurts

[turbid yoke]

i can't find something relevant yet im so mad at myself

[stray notch]

i've seen only 3 posts and i know FS hates IR

im smart.

[turbid yoke]

ye

[compact kindle]

Its mutual

[waxen glen]

Reason I asked about this was under the curiosity of if it had something to do with filling out a certain time frame of like... dragons flying for a certain amount of time without landing, or drakes swimming for a certain length of time without leaving the water. But if it's been tried then there's not much use thinking on it too much.

[stray notch]

yeah they both hate each other lol

[turbid yoke]

all i found it : elder SS told the new generation that they had to flee there to survive so thats how the SS found the forgotten forest

[waxen glen]

Cause that's not campable, but it is a little too simple I suppose

[stray notch]

also drakes beileve in FS (they know FS F's them up)

[compact kindle]

King FS man wanted to slaughter the IR for not joining his dictator army to fight elementals, but IR said no we busy fighitnig Pookie so FS king lead armies to kill the IRs and the IRs kited them into the Pook nest and watched them all die

Thus the dragons went exctinct

[stray notch]

NOOOO I DIDNT FINISH READING

WHAT A PLOT TWIST

[turbid yoke]

also : all dragons have a tradition about flying or swimming depending on their spieces because u need to survive

[stray notch]

damn nasty wyvrens

11 hours
servers still down

im dying

[turbid yoke]

FS and IR are at war we know that, ASD fought against some venom wyvern

[stray notch]

omg i want them to be ARK's venom wyvern

gona be cool asf

[compact kindle]

Poison & Ice wyverns were best bois

[turbid yoke]

they said in the post that is has some scorpion like tail

and that its weak to the asd venom

[stray notch]

OMFG

NO WAY

[compact kindle]

Oh right! I remember this

[turbid yoke]

but its not relevant yet

[compact kindle]

The two are supposed to counter eachother well tho

[turbid yoke]

if they said it's here it is here

[compact kindle]

Their acid does good damage but so does the venom

[stray notch]

i wanna see that but i want them to destroy drakes venom :\

[turbid yoke]

how about we stick to what we know

[stray notch]

good to know phew
lol do we know what would be its effect

[turbid yoke]

i can give this about the forgotten forest

"The first biome we will be revealing to the public is the Forgotten Forests. This map will serve as the major spawn area for most species and will be beginner friendly. It is home to the Acid Spitter, the Shadow Scale, the Nurse and Healer Dragons, Micro Feathered, Bioluminescent, Blitz Striker, and some others we have not revealed yet. Also to spawn here will be the Thunder Elemental (albeit far from the dragon nesting (spawn) locations). The Forgotten Forests feature mountains, forests, grasslands, and swamps, for players to inhabit and explore. This biome is a herbivores paradise, with lots of food options for hungry carnivores as well such as the swamp snapper which lurks in the swamps, the timid sloth-thing (we haven't named it yet) in the grasslands, and the spined scrab while likes shallow pools of cool water. This biome will be a major social and pvp area as most all species can easily tolerate and potentially nest in the temperate climate"

[compact kindle]

We dont but sounds like a Melee prominant dragon to me, we'll have to see

[turbid yoke]

we only have one biome yet so

we explored

bruned crystals

sacrificed bugs under a full moon

dived bombed into ponds

tried to eat jellyfish and fireflies

[compact kindle]

Spun around three times and broadcasted to the moon

Slept for a full day and night on the peak of a mountain

Gorged on mushies until sickness kicked in

[turbid yoke]

we looked at the craters

drank green or red water

[compact kindle]

Swam laps around the lake

[turbid yoke]

flew into solar flares

[compact kindle]

Spent a whole stam + second stam flighti n the air

[turbid yoke]

OHHH

wait

idea

[compact kindle]

Slept in and called and nested in every PoI

[turbid yoke]

each species has a special thing

FS can see Heat

SS can go invisible

IR can set themselves on fire

[compact kindle]

Ive remained invis as SS for hours, and also used flame cloak as IR for hours since it never drains, done it while flying with both also

[turbid yoke]

ASD can do (idk help me on this one)

[languid spoke]

the acid charge thingy

[compact kindle]

Acid maw

[languid spoke]

that

[turbid yoke]

so if we dont think complicated and stick to what we have access to

[languid spoke]

so, you're saying, theoretically....their special could reveal something in the right area?

[turbid yoke]

yeah

each have their own way

[languid spoke]

easiest one to check would probs be heat on FS

[turbid yoke]

but a doable way

[compact kindle]

I dont personally think so Ive been around the map with the SS and IR with their abiltiies on

[languid spoke]

hit that thermal vision and see if anything of interest pops up

[turbid yoke]

FS could reveal what they could need

[languid spoke]

that's what i was thinking, if it's linked to that somehow

[turbid yoke]

IR could molt it out of something

[languid spoke]

not sure on that, i've been on fire in many places with no reaction yet.....and a friend parked his IR in a tree for a good long time on fire

[stray notch]

regarding these, idk. dominant point is an elder point soo eh

[compact kindle]

Thats the breeding tree

[languid spoke]

that's the 4th mutation point into the dominant section

[turbid yoke]

and its a thing everyone could get

[stray notch]

yes

[languid spoke]

doesn't mean you're elder tho

[stray notch]

i know yall chill im just sending it here bc... idk i noticed stats looks different is that bc of dominant point?

there is smaller letters

[languid spoke]

yea that's what it is

getting that dominant point in lets you see your recessives

[stray notch]

hmmmm, so u have tried it?

[languid spoke]

also let's you see your grandparents skin colors

[compact kindle]

Isnt it from only one point in social?

[languid spoke]

yes

[stray notch]

how? D:

[compact kindle]

Biolumin now that I think about it

[languid spoke]

how what?

[compact kindle]

Only seen it on*

Forgot half the sentence I think I need a nap

[languid spoke]

lol

[stray notch]

how did u get 4th point for dominant

[languid spoke]

spawned into the server as an elder lol

[compact kindle]

Bio gets all seven because they dont elder

[languid spoke]

that too

tho, mine is bugged. it shows the elder option 😂

for bio

[compact kindle]

Oh what xD

[stray notch]

okay
so i play bio, but i just realized we now got 7 not 5

[languid spoke]

bio get 7

[stray notch]

so its bio only?

or is it bc bio doesnt elder

[languid spoke]

all full elders get 7

[stray notch]

and elder dragons get 7

[compact kindle]

All dragons should have 7 by full elder

[languid spoke]

but bio gets it automatically because it does not have an elder stage

[stray notch]

hmmmmmm how to gain the other 2?

[compact kindle]

Eldering someone posted earlier that you get new points at certain milestones

[stray notch]

3 on growth
1 with mushroom
1 when htting 100%
legacy branch im talking about

[compact kindle]

likeas 25,50,75,100

No mushrooms anymore

[red merlin]

could it have something to do with the northern lights

[stray notch]

PLEASE read last line.

[compact kindle]

Oh legacy you could not get 7

[turbid yoke]

they could "light the way"

[stray notch]

okay so? im saying 5 lmao read

[stray notch]

they fr light everything

[red merlin]

they make the world green, could be that whatever it is becomes visible then

[compact kindle]

Bio isnt in legacy either man How am I suppose to know

[stray notch]

my god i meant elders

elders now get 7

they used to get 5

they now can get 7

[limber valve]

Bumping this - regarding new mutation points.

[stray notch]

how do they get 7

[compact kindle]

They use to get 4

[turbid yoke]

yeah but in several fantasy things the light guides or reveals certain things

lotr : reveals the runes on the moria door

[red merlin]

are northern lights and star wars connected at all

[stray notch]

hold on yall remember the guy that said there is an orb that drops from sky on him

is he trolling

[turbid yoke]

the hobbit " reveals the keyhole for Erebor"

[turbid yoke]

i don't think we've heard from him recently but i though about that too

[stray notch]

oh oh oh
so this might just mean its now passive grow

like. get with it players

[limber valve]

Passive ticks are in the game, yes. But it's also been said that the new eldering mechanic is active in game as well supposedly - which is why we're all trying to figure out what it is.

[turbid yoke]

i mean it was obviously "REDACTED"

[stray notch]

i know, but what if they just meant u have to 100% elder passive THEN do something? to maybe be legit an elder

[turbid yoke]

it would take too much time

a passive eldering in a MMO

[limber valve]

If you had to 100% passive elder than there would be no point in adding a new eldering mechanic, so I don't think so.

[turbid yoke]

can't be the only way

but though orbs falling from the sky

like shootings stars or meteor shower

[stray notch]

correct me if i wrong
ticks are 24h, ASD tick is 2.1%, mean 47,6 days of passive eldering

[turbid yoke]

could

could explain pearls

[limber valve]

Ticks are every 12hrs

[languid spoke]

i haven't noticed anything falling, but i could have been in the wrong place to see something

[stray notch]

hmmm, so thats 23 days for ASD to elder? not too bad?

[limber valve]

But, if you had to elder to 100% passively, what would be the point for unlocking a new mechanic to elder?

[turbid yoke]

yeah and considering people also work and can't possibly log on every 12 hours

[stray notch]

why would "eldering michanic" be just to speed it up? maybe its not related?

its uncampable

it can be done solo

all rules apply to it and its not TOO long like the old tick

bro old tick is lik 0. i dont remember and also DAILY

impossible to elder, but rn i think it is?

[compact kindle]

Old passive was 1-3% every 12 hours

[stray notch]

hmmm

[limber valve]

I'm saying there would be no point in having an eldering mechanic to unlock if you had to unlock it by 100% passive eldering. The mechanic would contradict itself because you wouldn't need it - going based off the idea that you had to unlock it on each dragon.

[stray notch]

my brain is exploding

i need to know elder system before i die

[red merlin]

it could be related to the mela skin quest in the sense that you do it once and it unlocks for all dragons

[languid spoke]

if we can't figure it out Jao will tell us

[compact kindle]

Give it a couple weeks Im sure we will get the first hint

[turbid yoke]

i don't need sleep i need answers

[stray notch]

i just neeed an obvious hint from jao THATS IT ONLY

[compact kindle]

What if you dont have a dragon grown? They dont get the elder? or just insta elder on spawn

[turbid yoke]

can't be that easy can it ?

[red merlin]

it would probably unlock something else

it wouldn't make sense to have them auto elder

[compact kindle]

No it makes no sense and makes the whole rebirth cycle pointless for all players over like a month

[languid spoke]

i've unlocked mela and it's done nothing new for me

[stray notch]

guys hear me out

[red merlin]

I'm not saying the mela quest is directly related to eldering lol

I'm saying that it is a quest and eldering may also be a quest, you do it once and it unlocks

[compact kindle]

That would break PvP servers

its not balanced

and takes away from the game play not add to it

[stray notch]

i've watched some vids on some games easter eggs, they all have some godd*** rules that cant be done easily u just gotta be a hacker to do it
what if DoD had this type of quest where u do a long term mission

[red merlin]

hasn't jao said that when one person figures this out everyone will be eldering

[red merlin]

you think the devs care abt balance 💀

[compact kindle]

Yea... Because we would spread the word on how to

[compact kindle]

Yes given there are counters to each dragon type for combat

Its fairly balanced imo

[stray notch]

not place to talk about balance lol
what do u think abt this

[compact kindle]

It was related to eldering.. ?

[turbid yoke]

all toxicity must go to the general chat XD it's big brain time here

[stray notch]

^

[red merlin]

anyway.

[turbid yoke]

yeah

so

let's get down to buisness

to defeat

[languid spoke]

the huns

[red merlin]

irl northern lights are known to make "star wars blaster" sounds

[stray notch]

my theory got frgotten in the void 😔

AGAIN BC I BEILEVE IN THIS ONE
i've watched some vids on some games easter eggs, they all have some godd*** rules that cant be done easily u just gotta be a hacker or a big brain nerd to do it
what if DoD had this type of quest where u do a long term mission

[turbid yoke]

i'm going with u on this one

[languid spoke]

i read it tam, i just don't know what kind of "long term mission" there would be available in the game right now

[pine mica]

Maybe we can find something in DOD lor or legends about dragons?

[languid spoke]

lore has been scoured

[stray notch]

for example
drink from EVERY water source in the map

[limber valve]

Has anyone read through all the lore/comics?

[languid spoke]

people have done that

[turbid yoke]

Trials exist in each dragonkind to prove urself worthy

[stray notch]

wtf lmao

[turbid yoke]

so it could explain a long term one

[stray notch]

some nerds did that in time?

[turbid yoke]

its a quest to become an elder

[languid spoke]

it was done earlier in this thread yes

[stray notch]

or nesting as a 1+ tick elder?

[turbid yoke]

but what triggers the quest

[languid spoke]

no ticks when nesting sadly

[turbid yoke]

what could send you on your way to be an elder

[compact kindle]

Also been done

[languid spoke]

craters did nothing, crystals did nothing, hitting the ceiling gave a concussion, hitting the wall hurt

flew at the moon, flew at the aurora, flew at the wall (accident)

[stray notch]

hold on... why can we shhow grandparents rn
maybe we gotta finish what they started?.... eldering is only for a grandson of a dragon?

[languid spoke]

swam, swam a lot, under water swimming, yeeting from waterfall as asd

[compact kindle]

We can see them

[languid spoke]

seeing grandparents and their skins if for breeding

[compact kindle]

Its your mutations that allows it

I am my own grandson lol

[stray notch]

ant it be related to eldering? if ur skin, and stats an be passes down the breeding line
why isnt it that elder genom or smth

[warped gull]

i dont think its in yet imma be honest

[languid spoke]

because elder isn't genetic

[turbid copper]

it is

[compact kindle]

^ This, its an age

[warped gull]

how do u know?

we found no way to prog and ppl are searching all day every day

[stray notch]

lol im just trying hard on stuff that doesnt make sense
i really have no more ideas im out of ideas and theories

[warped gull]

even if devs said its in idrk dude

[languid spoke]

it is extremely possible that we are looking so hard that we can't see the forest for the trees

[turbid copper]

wdym

[stray notch]

someone did
and sadly, in a huge clan, now we will have a clan of elders soon

[warped gull]

on which server?

[languid spoke]

where's their solid proof

[warped gull]

do we have any clip or smth

that actually shows them being an elder

[languid spoke]

and not just from passive ticks

[warped gull]

and its not just "someone said someone saw someone who was elder"

[languid spoke]

right

[stray notch]

thats where the debate is, i just saw them so huge as IR, might be cap? dont take my word too srsly bc me my self not too sure

[stray notch]

I.. saw.

[turbid yoke]

all we have yet are assumption or people trolling or people from non official servers

[languid spoke]

yup

[warped gull]

u didnt hear them use any calls?

or bite

or anything

[turbid yoke]

so i'm banging my head on the wall

[warped gull]

that actually shows they elder

[stray notch]

its official, i just dont wanna tel any details

[languid spoke]

well that's not helpful

[stray notch]

not full elders nah, seems like 20+ and u have adult sound till the 100%

[languid spoke]

if it's legitimate and true then it should not be gate kept

[warped gull]

so u didnt see any elders

is what ur saying

[turbid yoke]

i feel like we are all looking for Jack the reaper

[warped gull]

u just saw someone w elder prog

which is totally possible w passive ticks only at this point

[languid spoke]

right

[stray notch]

i didnt see an ELDER i saw a progressed adult that went too far into eldering, in 4 days

[warped gull]

how do u know how far he went

did he tell u his %

[turbid copper]

no it's not, you can't get 20+ so quick

[stray notch]

inferno tick is less than 2%?

[pine mica]

Too become elders we need think like elders

[languid spoke]

some angles also make adults look larger btw, noticed that when nesting

[warped gull]

u can collect it twice a day

[languid spoke]

possible it was a visual trick

[warped gull]

so thats 3% per day

they can be 20

around that

[stray notch]

u dont have to trust this, i personally even dont, but someone asked them and they said 24%
but what I SAW is big, probably that size

[compact kindle]

Its been 6 days now

[warped gull]

well even if its true 24% is possible

[compact kindle]

^

[stray notch]

yes this is why i thought they were lying

they are an enemy clan yk, when u be a hatchie next to them and u start talking while they kill u its that type of relationship

so mostly a cap

[warped gull]

i havent seen any clip or any call or anything

from an elder

that doesnt have an admin tag

[stray notch]

mate, elder sounds doesnt work untill ur 100% elder
a 99.9% elder makes adult sounds

[languid spoke]

IR is......9% per tick on regular growth server? (guessing so since on 2x it's 1.8%)

[turbid yoke]

yeah and content creators havent spoken about it yet so they either know

[stray notch]

even thought its 0.1 from elder size

[warped gull]

i know?

[turbid yoke]

or they're clueless like us

[warped gull]

but if someone figured out how to elder

in 6 days u can elder easily

if u get 1 extra tick per "action"

[turbid yoke]

if it's pvp they would 100% gatekeep

[warped gull]

well theyd still use it in big fights

bcs of the huge advantage

[stray notch]

we actually got no clue about elder system, is it increasing the tick, increasing X % on ur growth.... so we cant tell if its that easy or not

[languid spoke]

if this is correct, then 6 straight days of logging in for the 12 hr tick on a regular growth server would put them at 10.8%

[warped gull]

what im saying is

if someone found out how to elder

and has the "monopol" on it

there is a high likelyhood that they should be elder by now

ofc this can wary since we dont know how it works

[stray notch]

my point is

how are u sure eldering system would take 6 days to be big

[languid spoke]

we also don't know if (once discovered) eldering can be done quickly like it was with mushies

[stray notch]

u do know mushrooms used to take weeks right?

[languid spoke]

it could take longer

it wasn't supposed to be easy or fast......so it probs won't be now either

[stray notch]

couple weeks maybe

[warped gull]

yes but on pvp servers u never got all the mushrooms for ur self

[stray notch]

thats why its hard, plus not A LOT of spowns,
u dont know how hard or easy, fast or slow new elder is

[warped gull]

i said that already

[stray notch]

it might be as i said long term mission that takes quiet a lot of minutes on a speedrun, so idk

[warped gull]

but they should atleast be noticeably bigger

[languid spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/circle-marriage-love-like-a-circle-never-ends-gif-12894046

[warped gull]

24% is not noticeably

[stray notch]

when servers are back up i'll try my best finding them again getting into solid stuff

to make SURE they actually ARE big

[turbid copper]

you get kinda big from 40 ish i think

[stray notch]

saw them twice in like, 20hours of playing

[compact kindle]

Quite a few people are in their 20s for Eldering atm, its possible through passive

[warped gull]

its all weird

[languid spoke]

on a 2x server each passive is 1.8% for IR....so one of those every twelve hours for 6 days would be 21.6%

[warped gull]

all im saying is its very weird that we havent found it yet

something feels off

[languid spoke]

https://tenor.com/view/tbbt-the-big-bang-theory-sheldon-smart-wise-gif-5472197

how i feel

[compact kindle]

We were given no hints, Its expected that we wouldnt find it that fast

[warped gull]

yes but also like all the full pve servers are searching for it + all the big clans on pvp

[languid spoke]

also, several days were spent hyper fixated on specific things lol

[warped gull]

there is a lot of people trying stuff

the map is not that big

[turbid copper]

pve is mostly focused on stats

[languid spoke]

not all of them 😂 some are also focused on stats and getting rid of iconic skin

iconic spreads like a plague man

[warped gull]

well alright thats true

but still

a lot of people are searching

[languid spoke]

it will either be found or told

[compact kindle]

Yeah all the PVE'rs I know were upstating skins since launch, didnt move around much

[warped gull]

idek wanna know how to elder

idm finding out myself

i just want proof that the system exists

[languid spoke]

but everyone keeps fixating on one or two things and spending inordinate amounts of time on them

[warped gull]

i dont wanna waste my time searching for somthing that doesnt work

something*

[stray notch]

imagine being in a mall
u get told there is something u gotta find, to win
whats the thing? REDACTED
like how big what colo- REDACTED
bro just a hi- REDACTED, THEN OVBIOUSLY REDACTED

[turbid copper]

all we know is that it's, REDACTED

[warped gull]

yes true but u get confirmation the instant u find it

and if u make the people searching a lot more than 1

it wont take that long

[languid spoke]

you have to REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED then obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED

sounds super easy

[stray notch]

not a joke, jao qoute beileve it or not ^