New Elder System

[minor hinge]

did we rule out SWQ

if i not post it

[civic niche]

StarWars Galaxies?

[minor hinge]

ya

[civic niche]

I think there are some different theories on it but since they're two very different games it's hard to say what's relatable to DoD and therefore can be tested.

[dry mauve]

yeah but jao did mention the jedi leveling

[last minnow]

yea

[dry mauve]

So we cant rule it out

[proper imp]

i was bringing a baby SS back to the island in the big lake so we could help it grown and it broke free in the middle of the lake 💀

[last minnow]

thats the worst spot to take a ss to so you can grow it

[proper imp]

nah we were all there so we could get him food

[minor hinge]

but what if it not tie to jedi it self

but the game it self

[last minnow]

it wouldnt be tied to the jedi as its 2 whole different games

but it could be similar to some degree if we figured it out

[minor hinge]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DaGqiaMvyBU

[dry mauve]

The most optimal way of leveling up in Star Wars Jedi: Survivor is farming XP by killing beasts. For that, players will need to take down a beast near a meditation point and force-spawn the creature by resting. This allows for killing the same enemy repeatedly and gaining extra Skill Points.

[sour sonnet]

its already in game so nopes

[dry mauve]

Where ever maybe a meditation point is?

[sour sonnet]

theres no beast in the game XD

[dry mauve]

No your right

[sour sonnet]

i think

and this is just a theoryu

he references stuff in a hidden way but like it sticks out

[tame crest]

Star Wars Jedi Survivor is...not the game Jao was referring to but that's funny

[sour sonnet]

so maybe the biome

[stray notch]

3 words, and i qouted redacted bc its lettirally what he said just so its put in mind

[civic niche]

Do we know if the SWG comment was addressed to the current active eldering system or something to come later?

[tame crest]

It was something he kept saying when people kept asking him to drop hints for active eldering during qna

[stray notch]

SWG????

[tame crest]

The [redacted] part, to be more specific.

[civic niche]

alright

[civic niche]

StarWars Galaxies

[stray notch]

did he hint eldering is related to smth in that game?!

[tame crest]

I'm gonna actually become a Jedi in SWG before you guys figure this out at this rate

[civic niche]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong because i didn't hear it but supposedly it was something along the lines of how do you become a jedi?

[vast valley]

Just a random theory - maybe it has something to do with pearls? Maybe you can somehow get/find/be given eldering pearls from somewhere/someone/something, idk, and they'd be single-use consumables that might spawn randomly in the map, or maybe something like breaking the crystals however you do that, and using the crystal (as you've probably guessed by now) grants x% of eldering ticks?

[sour sonnet]

pearls are not in game

[proper imp]

good idea ngl

[sour sonnet]

and the eldering system is

[proper imp]

yes they are

[stray notch]

sorry, i know nothing about that game or its movies, what is a jedi?

[sour sonnet]

well the skin ones

[proper imp]

tamim what

[sour sonnet]

LMAO

[vast valley]

Pearls are, just right now they're cosmetic - BUT, if they wont tell us how to elder, they aint gonna tell us about eldering pearls if this IS how they're done

[proper imp]

https://tenor.com/view/obi-wan-upset-star-wars-revenge-of-the-sith-gif-19823085

[stray notch]

for real i have no clue wtf is this?

[civic niche]

lol look it up it's got a very in depth lore

[proper imp]

lightsaber dudes

[vast valley]

So the existence of eldering pearls could be possible

[stray notch]

i thought about that! but never found anything could endicate it

[stray notch]

oh damn.

[civic niche]

Only skin pearls are ingame atm i believe

[proper imp]

Jedi (/ˈdʒɛdaɪ/), Jedi Knights, or collectively the Jedi Order are fictional characters, and often protagonists, featured in many works within the Star Wars franchise. Working symbiotically alongside the Old Galactic Republic, the Jedi Order is depicted as a religious, academic, meritocratic, and military (peacekeeping) organization whose origin dates back thousands of years before the events of the first film released in the franchise. The fictional organization has inspired a real-world new religious movement and parody religion: Jediism.[2]

Within the Star Wars galaxy, the Jedi are powerful guardians of order and justice, who, through intuition, rigorous training, and intensive self-discipline, are able to wield a supernatural power known as the Force, thus achieving, for example, the ability to move objects with the mind, perform incredible feats of strength, and connect to certain people's thoughts. As Star Wars creator George Lucas explains, the Jedi are "warrior-monks who keep peace in the universe", avoiding the use of violence except as a last resort, with a mission to "use their power to keep the governments of all the planets in line, so that they don't do terrible things". The Jedi have the "moral authority to do that" since they are "the most moral of anybody in the galaxy".[3] Throughout the franchise, Jedi are often recognizable by their robes and tunics in various shades of brown and their use of lightsabers: sword-like weapons with a colorful blade made of plasma.

wikipedia article

[vast valley]

Again, my point is that eldering pearls could be in the game and need to be found however you do that - they wont tell us that eldering pearls are in the game obv

They've neither been confirmed nor denied. If they are, they wont be confirmed

[civic niche]

Do we have confirmation in writing that ONLY skin pearls are in game by the devs or was that said in qna?

[zenith iron]

As it stands, I only have about a handful more places to check for a special area per say

Been all over the entire map

[vast valley]

Idk, but from the looks of things, answers in #ask-questions arent reliable so i wouldnt check there. I've seen staff members there say eldering is in the game while others say it isnt, so it seems they're not too informed either

[zenith iron]

checked maybe 85% of the water sources for that one hint

[civic niche]

well staff don't know, devs know

[vast valley]

And devs dont typically answer questions

[civic niche]

right, unless it was in QnA. Which is why i asked did they confirm that only Skin pearls were ingame atm

[vast valley]

So, unless we have Jao or another dev state in a QA, or in some dev announcements, explicitly, that ONLY cosmetic pearls are in the game, then elder pearls remain a possibility in my eyes. I dont think they'll lie to us, just avoid the truth

[compact kindle]

Pretty sure there was an annoucement about pearls being added in the future soft update not currently implimented

[vast valley]

Yeah but it's too vague. They havent specified the type of pearls.

[civic niche]

Lets try to dig up that announcment and see exactly what it says

[vast valley]

Case in point: Pearls, as an item, are in the game, with the golden, shimmer, and jelly pearls

[compact kindle]

What are they going to drop from?

[vast valley]

So clearly, when they said pearls arent in the game, they were meaning specific pearls, not all

[civic niche]

supposely some were supposed to be randomly found

[vast valley]

Maybe they spawn somewhere randoly

[civic niche]

others would be obtainable by killing worms

[vast valley]

There's multiple ways

[civic niche]

I think i read a patreon post on them let me see if i can find it again

[compact kindle]

If they just spawn out on the ground at random?

[vast valley]

Something like that, kinda like elder mushrooms in legacy, but not to a specific spot at specific times

[stray notch]

lol yk i just knew the name of that sword right now? yeah im that uneducated on Star wars

[stray notch]

thank you that explains much!

okay so again, whats the connection u guys figured out?

[vast valley]

And they'd likely be much smaller, probably only noticable by maybe a flash of light, which i have seen a few times in-game, random flash of coloured light. Always thought it was a bug, but now that im brainstorming, i could go explore it

[civic niche]

"There are 3 types of dragon pearls, Modifier Pearls, Cosmetic Pearls, and Skin Pearls."

[vast valley]

Could it perhaps count as a modifier pearl?

[compact kindle]

Theyre crystals

[civic niche]

"Modifier pearls enhance 1-2 stats, depending on the pearl quality. Quality levels are Lesser, Greater, and Ancient. Lesser pearls are the most common and grant a single stat buff of 1-3% and use 1 space, Greater pearls are uncommon and grant a single stat buff of 3-7% and take up 2 spaces, and finally Ancient pearls are rare and grant two stat buffs, a lesser buff and a greater buff and take up 3 spaces. With ancient pearls, if both buffs on the pearl enhance the same modifier, it is possible to enhance a single stat by a maximum of 10%, otherwise, it will enhance two stats, one by up to 7% and the other by up to 3%."

[vast valley]

Nah i dont mean them, i mean a literally flash of coloured light somewhere that disappears quite fast

[civic niche]

Maybe they added an elder pearl and it's just a secret?

[vast valley]

It's possible

[stray notch]

ELDER GROWTH MODIFIER THATS IT

[vast valley]

If stat pearls give a % of a stat increase, growth is a stat, no?

[compact kindle]

Pearl has an inventory limit also

[eager abyss]

most random light can be explained away by 'lighting catching the edge of the water in a weird way in small pools'

[fresh marsh]

ive seen crystals flash from across the map

[vast valley]

Not necessarily, it's carry weight, not a static amount

So one could use the, as i said, single-use elder pearl, after collecting them,

[civic niche]

I don't think so? It's more of a stage

[vast valley]

Well yes, but it's still a stat, it still uses the same % as any other stats, it's just that increases a little differently. There's no reason to say it's completely different

[stray notch]

green lights mostly at night, is that what u mean?!

[minor hinge]

i have see bule orb fall out the sky but i dont if it was a glich

[vast valley]

If a pearl can increase some damage % by 3%, it can give you an increase in growth % (if it's for that)

[vast valley]

Wouldnt hurt to check it out

[vast valley]

If you're meaning the aurora, no.

[minor hinge]

but thing is at nigth

[civic niche]

I wouldn't say they're the same either

[vast valley]

That said, bright flashes of light would obv be more obvious at night

[stray notch]

huh.. so what did u mean

[civic niche]

"So let's first talk about the dragon pearls. These are items you find in the world via AI loot, quest rewards, or exploration finds. Once you acquire one, it goes into your inventory (if you have enough available space). How much space you have is determined by your creature class and the size of the pearl."

[vast valley]

Ok?

The limited inventory spaces means that you'd have to make sacrifices, or use pearls (depending on if they're single use or not)

[tame crest]

afaik they are permanent effects so long as they're active

with the idea being you can trade them, or drop them on death as loot if they're not bound or hidden in your secret pearl stash thing

[vast valley]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

Y'all know im just theorising, i aint claiming this IS the way, or more likely than any of y'all's ideas

[stray notch]

yeah sure i can bet we've been going around the right theory

but we would never catch it

untill we do

[vast valley]

Mhm

[ionic trench]

what if it's something insane like a pearl falls from the sky, and you have to collect the pearl, and that starts giving you elder ticks

[compact kindle]

Pearls are confirmed equipable items not consumable

[stray notch]

important question
what is a possible michanic/ element/ tool/ item/ place etc etc... in game that we do not know about

[vast valley]

that's a hard question, considering we dont know

[stray notch]

thats the point
answering this question, or getting any new info would be 1 more step into a real answer

[civic niche]

you can't answer something you don't know lol

[compact kindle]

^

[stray notch]

if we find out.

[civic niche]

I believe everyone in here has been pointing out anything strange or sus

[compact kindle]

Then its no longer a mechanic we dont know

So its an innocrect answer

[languid spoke]

we've pointed out all the things that could thing that we can think of and i'm sure missed things that can thing that we didn't think of

[vast valley]

I could make a point here but i'll get nerd reacted

[languid spoke]

do it

doooooo it

https://tenor.com/view/doja-cat-star-wars-gif-25078126

[civic niche]

Just tell us what you don't know Tamim and how to elder, god

[vast valley]

No coz i dont wanna get nerd reacted, and nocturn might take the opportunity to turn on me

[languid spoke]

😂

you can tell me then

[compact kindle]

I dont even know what that means

[stray notch]

huh

[last minnow]

for this channel, its honestly all nerds coming up with theorys

[civic niche]

nvm lol

[vast valley]

Meant what i said, said what i meant

[compact kindle]

That is a great disciption thank you

[vast valley]

You're welcome

(It means i was gonna correct you on something)

[compact kindle]

By all means, go ahead, were here to have a discussion? If I am incorrect about something I'd like to know

[vast valley]

Nah it's not something to do with the discussion.

[stray notch]

idk if this is what u meant
but my most sus thing is
crystals - caves - pearls - (using more than 1 dino to elder) - a quest of a lot of stuff to do in a raw so u could do something.

[vast valley]

Ahem

[compact kindle]

Then I'm not sure why I'm being targeted Lol

[vast valley]

'Actually, it's still a mechanic we are unaware of since it's not been discovered. All we will have done in considered it'

[vast valley]

Im not targetting you, just making jokes, dw about it

[vast valley]

Just make sure you say this in, like, the squilliam voice

[civic niche]

yeah we've thought of all that

[vast valley]

Then add his signature laugh afterwards

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-siegbert-schnösel-comedy-spongebob-schwammkopf-phone-call-gif-17536166

[zenith iron]

This is the last place I know of that could hold any value

Checked everywhere else I knew about

[vast valley]

Aint that in the elder forest>?

[tame crest]

Think so, yeah

[zenith iron]

No

[civic niche]

That's the rough "stonehenge" (for lack of a better term) i was talking about lastnight

[zenith iron]

261 S 604 W

[dry mauve]

Thats hideaway right? I feel like since they mentioned eldering wont be able to be camped its a condition based thing

not a location

[zenith iron]

I know that

[minor hinge]

i bet 80% player here when back to leagcy LOL

[zenith iron]

I'm saying I've through everything location wise

[dry mauve]

So you would have to meet a certain stat condition or something to elder... maybe a time of day, or health... Food value or use of abilitys

But it applys to all dragons so it cant be flying cause ASDs and other flightless dragons wont be able to elder

We know that elder is currently passive

and we also know its a new system that wont be able to be camped. so what is it i wonder

[vast valley]

It could be a similar yet different method for each dragon, right?

[dry mauve]

It has to apply to all game server types so it cant be combat related

[fresh marsh]

i tried taking my asd above the clouds nothing happened

[dry mauve]

as pve servers dont have PVP

[compact kindle]

Im going to need a video

For science

[fresh marsh]

it was just climbing the beak thats above trhe clouds

peak*

[compact kindle]

Jump

[fresh marsh]

im already on the other side of the map, or i would record it again

[dry mauve]

He mentioned Jedi leveling, which could relate to meditation. maybe a stat condition at a certian time of day near an object

[vast valley]

Y'all ima dip now. Might join in the discussion tomorrow, but for now i gtg sleep for less hours that i really should but y'know, life

👋

[languid spoke]

night!

[civic niche]

have a great night

[civic niche]

that would be possibly be campable

[compact kindle]

plus the day cycle is like 3-4 hours? thats a small window

[dry mauve]

yeah its not campable

[civic niche]

It could be depending on the "object" and if it was stationary

[compact kindle]

Misses time of day by 1 minute has to wait five hours is a good way to get me to wait the 12 hours tbh Atleast I can be anywhere on the map for those

Or people safe logging in that spot to come back at that designated time of day

[civic niche]

has anyone tried just resting in the morning as "meditation"?

[compact kindle]

People holding that area from other clans completely just so they can sit there all day and get them all

[dry mauve]

If i was an adult... i would

[compact kindle]

I can time skip and give it a go

[civic niche]

I'll try too

it's morning rn so i'll sleep for a few min then maybe lay down for a few minutes

[compact kindle]

Lemme get to the mountain so I atleast have a good view to watch xD

[fresh marsh]

would be really cool if there was something that only showed up in the green glow from the aurora

[dry mauve]

Ya know i was thinking that as well

In the lore it mentioned the auroras

[civic niche]

In what context?

I've only ever seen it mention aurora borealis in the frozen north

[languid spoke]

i know when it talked about the ss's looking for a new home it mentions their path they took

[civic niche]

Yeah through the ice tunnels or something

I think that was in the frozen lands which we don't have atm

[dry mauve]

In the world of Jrakhon, the night sky is flooded with stars, along with auroras in the frigid northern polar region. But the stars and auroras are not alone in the night sky, among them is Jrakhon's sole moon, Nharogk. Nharogk is a volcanic moon, orbiting close to the planet and is prone to frequent violent eruptions which often make for meteor showers in Jrakhon's night sky. Historians tell of some eruptions so powerful that the shockwave caused tornados on the planet's surface.

[civic niche]

Ight I slept for 5min gonna try just laying down now

[night tendon]

Random thought.. Whhat if you sit up on the bigger snow mountain while the aurora happens at night? Full night cycle, if you can

Maaybe not, still campable :')

[fresh marsh]

thats why the moon looks so cool, its volcanic

[civic niche]

Yeah that's the aurora borealis

[languid spoke]

i still believe anything is campable if you try hard enough

[proper imp]

its the elementals home planet

[civic niche]

campable, but sure why not

[fresh marsh]

thats pretty awesome, i need to start brushing up on the lore

[compact kindle]

I sit there alot nothing happens

[night tendon]

Sad :') well, thanks for confirming

[dry mauve]

Yes but maybe eldering is tied to the moon?

[proper imp]

yeah they came to the dragons planet on a meateorite and eat their bile to power up and eventually combine to become horrible elemental dragon creatures like the hydra mentioned in QnA

[crystal ibex]

This is a wild idea but, I remember someone saying there was a mention of "bringing treasures somewhere". What if it's not bugs, but hatchlings? As children are considered treasures to a lot of folks.

Another wild idea is that we may be looking at the star wars references a bit wrong. Okay, so, you get a mela skin after growing an iconic. That's darth vader, right? So what if eldering would be for the next generation, as in you unlock it as a hatchling but you don't know until adult.

[dry mauve]

The moon is brought up a lot in the lore, so it the auroras and the night sky

[fresh marsh]

and im pretty sure the moon moves independent of the skybox, i watched it for a bit

[proper imp]

rip hatchies even more then they already were

[compact kindle]

Should see it when its sped up, gives me a good giggle

[dry mauve]

I know they mentioned in the lore flying baby dragons up really high and dropping them

as only the strong who learn to fly survive and the ones who do not die

[compact kindle]

^ Did this yesterday with a hatchie took them above the clouds and dropped them

[forest lake]

I thought it might be flying really high up for a bit, maybe at certain times of the day. like SS are always shown with an aurora borealis?

[fresh marsh]

i dont think its going to be anything that can completely lock a dragon out of it

[compact kindle]

We've tried that, there was a bunch of people all over the clouds for a while

[civic niche]

did 5min resting not sleeping, nada

[proper imp]

poor guy

[compact kindle]

samee

[civic niche]

unless it's a very specific time of day or location idk

[compact kindle]

They asked for a fly I gave them the best hatchie fly they'll ever have

[proper imp]

oh lol plot twist he had no stamina

[civic niche]

i don't think you need it to glide lol

[fresh marsh]

ive been searching around on asd, but im think its time to finish growing my new ss and fly around

[compact kindle]

Do hatchies burn stam gliding?

[proper imp]

omg wait is that...

[fresh marsh]

was hoping being at 10% would trigger something somewhere

[proper imp]

CRIMSON BLITZ?!?!

why did everyone stop talking lol

[civic niche]

where is that?

[proper imp]

uhh idk some guy sent this to me in general

i asked about crimson blitz bc its gonna be my main

[civic niche]

oh, yeah it's a thing

[iron quarry]

That was during testing but yes

[tame crest]

Leum blitz for me c:

I love my greyscale colours.

[dry mauve]

Lusewing — Today at 6:41 AM
Nope, no more mushroom eldering. You still get log in ticks every 12 hours. You now need to [REDACTED] to elder

[civic niche]

grow 😂

wait 😂 confirmed only ticks let you get elder

[proper imp]

6268 messages have been sent in this chat, now 6269 from me

[oak goblet]

if its like... you have to passively grow to 100% then do something imma cry lol

[civic niche]

Isn't Lusewing a CC? They wouldn't know unless they figured it out or something

[proper imp]

interesting 👀

[ionic trench]

anyone in here having any luck?

[vale mortar]

nope

[civic niche]

all theories nothing concrete

other than passive ticks do work

[dry mauve]

Pretty sure that was a quote from a live stream

[civic niche]

oh gotcha

that would make more sense then

[vale mortar]

I jut dont know what else it could be

Im horrible at solving stuff*

[crystal ibex]

It might just be as simple as exploring, like map completion

[dry mauve]

Cynro — 02/19/2024 7:21 AM
Hey!
The elder system has to be discovered yet, Jao wants us to find out, but you can still get a elder tick every 12H!

To see your skin just hover your mouse on your name on the family tree tab ^^

[civic niche]

i might start ground hunting

throne looks cool now

[compact kindle]

someone was going this I cant remember who tho Was gunna suggest covering the ground they havnt yet

[civic niche]

i've been trying to scout around forests some but so far nothing

[fresh marsh]

ive been running around on asd

hoping id see something you cant from the air

[dry mauve]

Worst comes to worse ask for a hint LMAO

[fresh marsh]

but theres a LOT of map to cover

[compact kindle]

Did you find anything?

Truely

[fresh marsh]

not really

[dry mauve]

I doubt id be a location.

[fresh marsh]

taking a small sanity break then im going to try to search a little more thoroughly

[civic niche]

I wonder if it's something that randomly spawns in given specific conditions. IE how the lagacy isle would spawn in food if your hunger dropped below a certain %

[jade elm]

Maybe it’s pacifism? Since the Jedi also have this thing about overcoming the dark side of the force (anger, violence, grief etc) so perhaps if you subsist on mushrooms for a while it’ll do something (the idea being you aren’t harming another living thing)

[stray notch]

@pine verge this guy is theory nerd

[compact kindle]

So elder mushies lol

[jade elm]

Yeah that would be pretty ironic

[real linden]

Ill try just eating normal shrooms and see how it goes

[civic niche]

Could you imagine lmaooooo

[stray notch]

i just found out cheats are SO easy on DoD

[jade elm]

I’m more referring to the normal food mushrooms, not that there would be much of a difference between them and the old system if pacifism were it

[compact kindle]

Id cry lol

[stray notch]

so i would say 90% chance everyone that is an elder rn (not passive) is cheating.

[civic niche]

or gatekeeping like a mofo

[compact kindle]

he cracked the code, active eldering is just a scam to weed out the cheaters

[civic niche]

honestly that would be a 200IQ move

[compact kindle]

I would accept no active eldering for a play like that

[civic niche]

https://tenor.com/view/gotem-gif-18695498

[stray notch]

i dont think eldering system is rn possible to be thought of, 4 days and u figured out? nah ur doing smth bad.

i just know stuff i cant say so yeah, big chance of cheating

[compact kindle]

Thats so ominous

[civic niche]

Idk there are some hardcore smart nerds out there

[stray notch]

i'd never think of them being THAT smart, hell im here for 2 days no one have gotten away of ou circle of thoughts all about crystals caves kills etc etc....

dont think anyone is too smart to figure out smth that different lol

[compact kindle]

Some people started annalyzing methods before 1.0 was dropped

[minor hinge]

maybe it was the key word no hits

[compact kindle]

Had a list of theories ready to go and go to it immedately

[civic niche]

just because the majority haven't doesn't mean there aren't a handful of brainiacs that have lol

[stray notch]

makes sense

[minor hinge]

no hits like on this

[fresh marsh]

theres just so little in the game to actually interact with right now

[stray notch]

at this point i dont even wanna elder i just so curious on WHAT is it, and WHO figured it out?!!?!

[stray notch]

thats what confuses me

[minor hinge]

so far it cant be camp

[stray notch]

thats not enough to narow down possible theories

we need more hints

not even jaos hint

is enough

[civic niche]

can you pick up mushies?

[stray notch]

no

hold on

can u....

[real linden]

let me see

[stray notch]

(vsauce music)

[jade elm]

What was Jaos hint btw? The Jedi thing?

[civic niche]

are bugs and hatchies the only thing we know of that can be brought to places

[stray notch]

you have to REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED then obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED

[jade elm]

Oh ok

[stray notch]

thats all i know, idk if he said smth else somewhere else

[stray notch]

i also find diabling adult/juv grab is intersting...

and yes

from what i know*

[compact kindle]

This^ Im not ready to elder yet, Im just too curious for my own good

[jade elm]

“Not campable” but have to go somewhere for something

[civic niche]

trying to figure out what the to get part is

[fresh marsh]

i only waqnt to elder to get an elemental on DvE server

[compact kindle]

Go to character menu to get last mutation point

[stray notch]

that means the "thing" is not a single thing its a lot of things around the map

[stray notch]

wait what thats a thing?!

[rapid radish]

I'm so ready to break the rules and ping the dev team xD

[jade elm]

The three redacteds, to me, means that we have to do three tasks before we have to go somewhere to get something

[stray notch]

@dev

PLEASE TELL US

[civic niche]

lmaooooooo

[rapid radish]

I also don't want to elder anything rn, I just need to know HOW

[jade elm]

I’m thinking it has to be client side or random, because clans could just camp set locations

[stray notch]

maybe a sentece, (grow 100% elder) or (find elder forest) etc

[civic niche]

maybe or maybe it's grow to adult 😂

[stray notch]

makes sense

OR HOLD ON

[jade elm]

Adding on to this, possibly the last step “get something” is literally just getting elder, or getting the elder tick as your reward

[stray notch]

(get first tick) of elder

[jade elm]

Cooking

[civic niche]

git gud 4head

install the game

[civic niche]

this is an interesting thought though

Im about to eat all the mushies

[dry mauve]

what if its legit just passive eldering and weve all been thinking about this to hard and we all look like idiots LMAO

the biggest meme of it all

[civic niche]

he'd be the biggest troll

[compact kindle]

RiP Ashenae death to poison

[civic niche]

yeah that's what i wanted to test

i think i read somewhere about one of the padawan trials was surving almost death.......... maybe it's a one of those specific goals that was theorized

[proper imp]

alr cya guys hans is logging out for the night and hopes elder will be figured out soon!

[woeful badge]

Am beginning to feel like there's a friendly npc bug you can talk to but people just kill and eat it lol

[compact kindle]

In my defense, I cant see any of them Im blind, I just bite when things scream at me

[turbid yoke]

honestly i have the same reactions : it screams i bite

[dry mauve]

maybe you need to kill a bug and take it somehwere?

or we could go back on the hatchie theory

[errant pecan]

Offer a bug as a sacrifice to the crystals

[dry mauve]

where ya need to take them somewhere

[compact kindle]

[turbid yoke]

"master Shadowscale what should we do ?" blasts them

[civic niche]

ooooooooooo it's getting blurry up in here

[jade elm]

Master shadowscale kills the younglings

[hybrid cloud]

maybe become exhausted and sleep by a certain crystal

[civic niche]

ight let's see

[compact kindle]

Oh my god

[civic niche]

so blurry lol

[compact kindle]

Thank you for your sacrifice

[jade elm]

Lmao dudes tripping

[compact kindle]

Oh noy on the FS also

[civic niche]

it stopped spreading so im good

got nada so far

[compact kindle]

How much health did you lose

[civic niche]

a few ticks

[compact kindle]

Not enough

gotta eat more

[compact kindle]

Thats not a bad amount honestly

[civic niche]

You try it then LOL

[compact kindle]

This was YOUR idea you get the credit I dont want it

[civic niche]

LOL

chicken

[compact kindle]

Im still meditating on the mountain peak

Ive not moved yet

[civic niche]

lmao

[stray notch]

that means the 24% inferno i found 2 DAYS AGO is a hacker?...

no

i can bet there is a boost u can do

a HUGE boost or that guy is a hacker?!

hold on is it rly possible for him to be over 10%+ in less than 3 days

[compact kindle]

On official? no probably not

Even at 2 ticks a day

[civic niche]

still no growth :/

[woeful badge]

Has anyone tried broadcast calling in various locations?

[civic niche]

i broadcast everywhere

[woeful badge]

I've tried on top of mountains, cliffs, inside caves

[compact kindle]

I do this everywhere

[stray notch]

no i mean if that person knew the method, he wouldnt go that fast even if he knew it, right?

[woeful badge]

I yelled in a hatchling's face once, no Elder tick 😦

I was sure it would work.

[stray notch]

guys hold on

[compact kindle]

Who knows, that would average to 8% a day

[stray notch]

what if its smth more fancy

what if u gotta get dragons meeting

get all species adults and do something

[woeful badge]

Tbh I think people need to use that meeting rock on the island

There's a pedestal for a speaker and little rocks for the audience

[stray notch]

nah its not campable

what if we rly do it?!

[rapid radish]

Apparetnly it needs to be something a solo player can do to 🤷‍♀️

[stray notch]

HOLD ON

anyone knows scaleworx?

their deathmatch server

[jade elm]

Ye

[stray notch]

it spowns u elder

they KNOW the method?

[woeful badge]

It's a server setting I think

[compact kindle]

No thats a server setting

[rapid radish]

bugged server setting atm

[stray notch]

ah'

might be something mentioned SO early in the game?!

smth so old that we didnt know is keeping up with us

[woeful badge]

See I'm thinking it's something to do with time of day. Cause a certain dev was in Islecrest last night messing with the time for maintenance or something

[stray notch]

maybe?!

[woeful badge]

Sorry I mean

"maintenance"

Could have been something else entirely

[rapid radish]

so what were the changes?

did soemthing change?

[woeful badge]

It was just the time of day being adjusted

[rapid radish]

to what?

[woeful badge]

Maybe it was just a harmless fix but

[rapid radish]

like permanently to something or?

[woeful badge]

I think it was early morning and they moved it to later morning/mid day

[compact kindle]

Servers were down yesterday probably just syncing the times to their usually pattern?

[civic niche]

SUS

[compact kindle]

eat it

[woeful badge]

It could be, but did anyone else have a Dev on their official server do it?

[compact kindle]

I dont play Official so I have no idea

[civic niche]

nvm i think it's just a different texture

[compact kindle]

XD

[stray notch]

broken texture lol

[vale mortar]

they stated there was a way outside of passive

[civic niche]

For anyone keeping score, I've tried offering a bug to the jellyfish on the island. Also did a series of calls

[vale mortar]

Im convinced at this point that elder system isnt actually obtainable yet 🥲

[unborn ice]

its really hard to tell

[minor hinge]

why is this guy put bitz in here when it not out yet

and where is the banbo at

that got be for the test server that only place i see banbo

[civic niche]

It was on a test server. He got the picture from someone else. He said he really wanted to play crim blitz as his main so I think he's just posting because he likes it.

[unborn ice]

is this confirmed?

[minor hinge]

ok

[unborn ice]

did you see a ss of his progress bar

[civic niche]

Ight HEAR ME OUT

The mushies give you a high. What if you need the high to see something somewhere?

[crisp narwhal]

Mushrooms just make you sick don't they?

[civic niche]

They do but after 50% is your vision changes

[civic niche]

^^

[rapid radish]

hans the blitz brings us joy and hope and strength to carry on and figure this out ^^

[barren cave]

Is passive eldering a thing? Someone on the server im in just said he got a message that said "You feel stronger" or something along those lines

[dense current]

yes it is a thing

[barren cave]

ah, nice

[dense current]

got passive tics on multiple dragons

[civic niche]

Yeah it's actually the only confirmed method to actually get elder. Everyone is still trying to figure out the active way

[crisp narwhal]

So where do we stand on the whole eldering situation

[minor hinge]

no where

[crisp narwhal]

That's not good

[minor hinge]

all we got is no hint and star wars galaxies that jeyo said in the q@a

[crisp narwhal]

Ok so you become a jedi in SWG by a long series of steps.

One of those steps is trials

But what could the 'trials' be for a dragon?

Trials are usually a test of multiple aspects of a person.

So maybe it's tests of Strength, Speed, Endurance, and Skill.

Maybe Knowledge aswell

[minor hinge]

well that count me out

i put all my points in fert

[crisp narwhal]

It may not require points in a certain category to complete as each branch cannot be completed without hitting elder.

So it would be completely pointless to put in the Dominant mutation if putting points into nesting means that you can't get elder, and therefore can't get the last point you need to unlock Dominant.

I don't think your mutations will have any effect on eldering.

[lone pulsar]

Jeyo?

[rapid radish]

he ofc meant Jao, learn to read through mistakes 😄

[lone pulsar]

Bruh I was kidding, learn to take a joke 🙄

[bleak python]

I agree. I was reading about the Jedi trials on wiki and trials were mentioned in the DOD comics as well

[rapid radish]

well taking off can sometimes be a trial xD

[minor hinge]

i wll i just with elder ticks for now my asd is at 12.4

[bleak python]

Also something about a thornback

About it being a coward

[crisp narwhal]

lol True, especially if you're an IR trying to take off uphill

[bleak python]

So my guess is the NPC we’re looking for is a thornback and it RUNS from you (changes locations all the time)

[minor hinge]

but thornback cant been seen in the air

[rapid radish]

problem is, it's not ready or in yet 😅

and the eldering system apparently is

[bleak python]

You can put models into a game and make them not spawn

NPC and AI are NOT the same

[rapid radish]

I know, we had the snapper, but it didn't do anything (like run) and you couldn't interact with it 🤔

[wheat bane]

look at the big picture.. in the comic, we see a FS going through various dangerous tasks (entering the cave, diving into the stomach of an ice worm, rescuing the injured FS) that basically give him his status as king. and watching the two smaller FS try to complete such a dangerous task themselves and die, shows they aren't fit for the trials. maybe its some sort of adventurous task individual players experience. or sth idk

[bleak python]

I’m not saying it PHYSICALLY runs I’m saying the spawn location of the NPC actively changes

[rapid radish]

aaaa, now I understand, sorry my brain is not braining aymore, it's 5am xD

[bleak python]

It’s okay LOL

I’m not the best at wording things sometimes

The way I look at it though Jao mentioned wanting NPCs before; and they definitely have the capability to make them appear (you saw that with the snapper).

[crisp narwhal]

Where is the snapper?

[bleak python]

It could be something like a baby dragon somewhere

[rapid radish]

it was on legacy, not 1.0

[crisp narwhal]

Ah

[minor hinge]

there was some out by 4 ponds on legacy

[bleak python]

It was in the big empty space in the far left of the map where the swamp would be

But it’s missing since 1.0

[rapid radish]

sooo is a trial a ss failing a take off and dropping to the canyon xD

I might have doen an oopsie xD

[minor hinge]

or is one trial is fly into arch way look at how it made now

that be Skill

asd mite be swimming Endurance

Strength i dont

[crisp narwhal]

True it could be different trials for different dragons

[minor hinge]

Speed can be falling out the sky

like nose dive

but did he said all dragons can do it night or day

[crisp narwhal]

True flying would mean and can't do it

Asd*

[hybrid cloud]

if they jump off a cliff they can get the feel for it

[minor hinge]

it more like what trials we have not done or did do that we dint kown we did it

[crisp narwhal]

Right that's the tricky part

[eager abyss]

it likely being multiple things makes it a lot trickier to isolate what we actually have accomplished

[civic niche]

So avoid that freaking location. I got so stuck i had to get an admin to pull me out. It's like a cliff at the edge of the map and you can slide in 😭

[stray notch]

i do not know the person, someone else tells me about him and i saw them screen sharing and that guy is HUGE

[civic niche]

I'd post a screen shot but the admin pulled me from that location

[stray notch]

HUGE like 20+

[civic niche]

huh?

[bleak python]

2 ticks a day; for the last few days would be about ~20% rn for some dragons.

You just gotta be on top of your log ins

ESP if you’re on a 2x growth server

[last minnow]

2x servers we cant use as a lead on anything

[bleak python]

Yep

That’s why I was explaining that 20% is entirely possible if the guy mentioning it was on a 2x growth server

[minor hinge]

Strength, Speed, Endurance, and Skill. Maybe Knowledge there one tink that can take all that is like pull or push something

and all dragons can do

[last minnow]

but a location is involved in this

we would need to know what the location is too

[minor hinge]

and cant be camp

[last minnow]

which makes it client sided

so for all we know, its different for each user

[minor hinge]

right like pull a rock or push a rock up a hill

or kock down a tree

[fresh marsh]

has anyone tried getting all stats to A?

or has there not been enough time for that

[crisp narwhal]

I think someone tried that already

[minor hinge]

there some A stat in server iam in

some got A+

[last minnow]

not even close to enough time

[dense current]

ik the server im in the bios are advancing on no e's not sure about anything else

[minor hinge]

i dont tink that would matter

[dense current]

yea neither

[minor hinge]

how would you get A in solo

[bleak python]

people in myst clan on molten mountain are claiming to have 18a stats but not seen any proof except their word of mouth in global

[fresh marsh]

thats alright, they are right, that would be next to impossible to do solo

[bleak python]

you cant even do it as a duo

only the male would be able to upstat

and even then the female would be consistent E bloodline

because she'd be a fresh spawn unless she was lucky enough to nab a higher egg from someone advertising

[fresh marsh]

im back to its just not activated yet

[bleak python]

i think its something that doesn't stay in one place, and it requires you to do something first to be able to see it.

[minor hinge]

i been see blue orb hit the ground as a ss

and fs

ir nofen and asd nofen

so i fly there nofen there

i need take pic when it happing

but i rule that out becuse it night when it happing

[stray notch]

use Gforce reply thing

instant replay

[bleak python]

its probably a visual bug

[minor hinge]

i was tink that to ruu

my video card is not the best out

i have not seen 1 thornback any where on the map

i been to ever loc on the map that i got to look at

[crisp narwhal]

Do patreons only have access to the comic?

[minor hinge]

idk on that

but some did pop in my head luke use the force when he was in x-wing try kill the death star

[crisp narwhal]

Yeah?

[minor hinge]

when it was in the some what Ravine

but that can be camp if you keep fly in it

oh well i be back in 5 years LOL when some one got it

[crisp narwhal]

Yeah

lol I hope I doesn't take that long

[whole hearth]

Howdy all...any new information?

[dry mauve]

no

[whole hearth]

Hmmm

[dry mauve]

we have nothing of value to share at this moment as we have no idea!

[crisp narwhal]

We were working on a theory but we haven't made any progress yet.

[compact kindle]

Whats the current theory?

[crisp narwhal]

Well my current theory is that you must complete one or more trials exemplifying Speed, Strength, Endurance, and/or Skill.

It could be the same for everyone or different for every species.

Not sure on that one

[weak sequoia]

has anyone found it yet?

[crisp narwhal]

Not that I know of

[mint tulip]

eat many adults maybe

[waxen glen]

It likely won't be pvp based, since eldering will be necessary in PvE servers too

[pearl root]

The only things about eldering ik right now are: Not a campale method and makeable for solo players so most Theories with pvp and nesting or specific locations probably out for me 🙂

Ah and the "just do what drakes do" thing

[fading canyon]

which means the Jarkhonflight thing is out :c

[last minnow]

the location thing was referenced by jao himself

so thats where the theroy comes from

[pearl root]

What do drakes normaly? Just think more about that

A location is campable

[last minnow]

not if its client sided

[dapper shard]

Maybe it's multiple locations for each dragon? So it's not as campable

Or a certain action at that location that can be done by multiple people at once, so that no one is camping

[azure pulsar]

Fly, eat/hunt, sleep, chill out to manage their energy levels, talk trough emotes with other dragons

[zenith iron]

It's not a location. I've scoured the map from top to bottom, even lost my bl A IR to hunger because I was so focused on searching for something like that

There is less than 5 places I know of that could hold that much significance

None of them have any noticeable features of any kind outside of the rock formations

None of the big water sources have anything either

[wheat bane]

its gotta be some kind of action then, or experience, something a dragon can be deemed worthy of. something 'trial'-worthy

[zenith iron]

My best guess? It's behaviors dragons would consider achievements past adult stage

Like nesting a kid with some type of rare stat

Or maybe exploring a certain area in a certain way to find something

[dapper shard]

Maybe u cna try to yeet yourself but survive as an adult

That sounds like an achievement

[zenith iron]

It's not a location, and not the crystals or bugs either

All 3 three of those I tested EXTENSIVELY

[dapper shard]

I think its gonna be something painfully obvious

But no one can pinpoint it out yet

[zenith iron]

I just think it will be certain actions

Then MAYBE, after hitting 100%, there might be a location that you can't conventionally find

I think there's a low chance of that tho

[wheat bane]

this is hurting my brain and soul so much

[zenith iron]

Mine to......

[dapper shard]

Mine too

[pearl root]

Ye it possible is something clientsided.

[final cargo]

shittyarin has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[dapper shard]

TF U MEAN

[zenith iron]

I'll list the more unique areas I've seen

[dapper shard]

I spent 2 hours yesterday trying to find all the crystals only to find out nothing

[wheat bane]

I was traveling the map myself yesterday too, for a couple hours, and found nothing so

[zenith iron]

To the SW there 2 impact craters by a lake, there's rough stonehenge as people call it, Elder Forest in the SW as well has TONS of caves, NE redwood forest has that giant pride rock from the lion king, throne rock by BR, Arch, some outlaying small lakes to the SW, gorge, and the moors lake area

[sweet flicker]

Anyone went all the way north west?
Where the craters are but further north?
Or behind the snowy mountains?

[dapper shard]

There's also a c oc k rock

[wheat bane]

nothing back there really

[zenith iron]

Been there, done that. There's a world barrier past certain points that really HURTS to hit

I've only found 1 way to see through the map, but still found a whole lotta nothing

There looks to be an underground area that's a WIP, but that info is useless in this case

[sweet flicker]

On the website they say there is a desert area, and I havnt seen one yet

[sweet flicker]

Ah

[zenith iron]

My best guess about some kind of location if it exists?

[sweet flicker]

Maybe
Idk

[zenith iron]

It would be in Elder forest, which is that valley to the SW

[dapper shard]

Elder forest is empty aside for some water spots

[zenith iron]

No other place has shown anything that could hide much else from how much I looked through

[sweet flicker]

That doesnt feel right, havnt seen lava, or desert

[zenith iron]

We have a demo version currently

[sweet flicker]

Ah, I thought they released the full map?

[zenith iron]

The full map is said to be like 25km by 25km or bigger iirc

[sweet flicker]

So that means eldering is not related to any of those new biomes?

[zenith iron]

No

I've been playing this game off and on since it first released in 2019 or so

Even fought the death worms when they got teased way back when

The map used to be more detailed until they started to overhaul it

Which tbf, was a pretty good decision since UE 5 came out a while back

Eldering imo, is tied to behaviors in some way or another

[sweet flicker]

Im guessing there is a cave system or smth then....when poking your head underground, there seems to be a lot of useless structures underground

[zenith iron]

Something that would distinguish a experienced dragon from a fresh adult

[sweet flicker]

Behaviors?

[zenith iron]

There's nothing like that

[zenith iron]

Think of it like this: What are dragons known for IRL?

[dapper shard]

Hoarding

Legends

Eating people??

[sweet flicker]

Huh

[zenith iron]

Being fierce protectors, hoarding, violence, benevolence, wisdom

Some of many

[sweet flicker]

Hoarding treasures? XD

[zenith iron]

That's more European dragons, but yeah

[sweet flicker]

Cant really protect of anything currently though in Pve

[zenith iron]

Eastern dragons are more known as divine guardians

[zenith iron]

Has anyone tried threatening others away from their nest?

Like 2 calling I mean

Nests need 1 parent nearby or they can despawn

[sweet flicker]

Did they specifically say there was another way of eldering besides daily ticks?

[zenith iron]

So maybe there's a tracking system

[zenith iron]

Yes

[sweet flicker]

Hm

[zenith iron]

We've been trying everything really

[sweet flicker]

Idk, seems a bit too roleplay, but idk what the devs like doing

[zenith iron]

There's been a few hints so far from various sources

Nothing too great tho

[sweet flicker]

Like what?

[zenith iron]

Jao said they got rid of the old system because Dragons wouldn't go after mushrooms, it wasn't a draon like behavior

[whole hearth]

Bro I was also wrned for yesterdays comment about crystals...LOOOOL

[dapper shard]

I never knew butt but a ss is a bad word

[zenith iron]

He also said a hint but stripped the imfo from it

[sweet flicker]

Maybe they added a way to "transfer knowledge" or smth?
Like ticks you can get from other elder dragons

[zenith iron]

He said we already have the right tools for the job

As it stands, I think that might've been more literal

[oak goblet]

nightvision maybe? in someway?

[zenith iron]

The dragon itself is the tool

There is a dragon in lore being known as the king of the ice throne

King=Elder supposedly

[sweet flicker]

There needs to be a pinned message with all the official statements and hints we have so far tbh....

[zenith iron]

We know that locations, crystals, and bugs are a definite no

[whole hearth]

Can't really rule that out jsut yet

[zenith iron]

I spent 3 days testing all 3 of em

[whole hearth]

Even if we did rediculous things with the crystals

Maby you missed something? You can never know for sure

[sweet flicker]

I think we cant rule out locations just yet, could be just a vast area that hasnt been searched a lot yet

[zenith iron]

Crystals can't be interacted with, nor done anything to really

[whole hearth]

Also why are servers called stuff like Frozen Throne? Maby the server name is related to eldering?

[zenith iron]

I've scoured every notable location in the map

There is one thing that bugs me tho

[oak goblet]

i wish we could atleast get a small hint or something tbh

[whole hearth]

Doubt it but could be a possibility

[zenith iron]

They took out my old haunt I called Redwood Arena 😦

[sweet flicker]

Maybe it isnt a notbale location

[zenith iron]

The map has been majorly changed

[whole hearth]

Also waht do golden trails mean?

[zenith iron]

https://www.worldanvil.com/w/day-of-dragons-elder-mushies-blanketfluff/map/916ed7e0-4fa1-4d4e-8be9-dfe2ed2f816f

[whole hearth]

Ive seen them a few times

[zenith iron]

That was the old map

https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fskaftafell.com%2Ftour%2Fdragon-queen-solheimajokull-ice-cave%2F&psig=AOvVaw0otD-8aWVQM2ygFJohy-Zo&ust=1708761359812000&source=images&cd=vfe&opi=89978449&ved=0CBMQjRxqFwoTCOjwz6D-wIQDFQAAAAAdAAAAABAE

That was the old ice caves

[wheat bane]

nests

[zenith iron]

Hmmmmmm

Hold on

The map layout is roughly the same, just a lot of locations have been changed towards the interior

https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/dayofdragons_gamepedia_en/images/6/64/TrueMap_FF.png/revision/latest?cb=20231205025953

[sweet flicker]

Yeah the layout is very similar, ravine and all the big landmarks are there, jusy different

[zenith iron]

The only places comparing the two I'd say needs to be check, are; Elder Mountain, Cave, and Paradise

I know where the cave is.........and I think it may still be there

I came across a patch of underlying unfinished textures there yesterday

[bleak python]

There's a community map being worked on; with tons of coords for food/bug spawns also in the thread.

[sweet flicker]

Ive been to cave, and at first, it seems like there will be a cave part, but there just end up being a wall, kinda weird
But I didnt see anything suspicious there really

[bleak python]

https://discord.com/channels/576933363672285186/1208397293951123456

Its still missing a lot of the water sources in the image but its more accurate than others Ive seen.

[lone gulch]

We did yesterday, there wasn't really anything

[sweet flicker]

Bleh
I tried looking for the cave in the mountain that they added with the pet update, didnt find anything there either, but I guess a lot of people already looked for that

[lone gulch]

That was Sir Bacons Memorial Cave

They had a statement saying that since Sir Bacon was part of the legacy, he will stay in legacy

So they removed it in 1.0

But I'm really wondering what else it could be.. there were so many tests

[sweet flicker]

Yes
Yeah but they could have left the cave part of it, just as a part of the map, with no function

[lone gulch]

That's true

[sweet flicker]

They seem to have kept most landmarks, so I thought why not

[lone gulch]

If it's a location (which we kinda ruled out earlier)
We should look for those who got tweaked or changed after the update

[whole hearth]

I went hrough the wall got flungh around the map and my hp is this:

[zenith iron]

Told ya it REALLY hurts lol

[whole hearth]

I think there is a secret mesh that you can walk through... is there something in the lore about magic? magic walls..forcefields etc?

[zenith iron]

I maaaaay have found something like that, but I think it was another case of a WIP map

[cedar meteor]

How goes the efforts to figure out eldering?

[lone gulch]

Slow

And with no result yet

Many theories, 0 liable hints and 0 results

[whole hearth]

Yea...its going poorly... I was thinking of roaring at the topest point of the map trying all 4 and got no results sadly...maby I was facing the wrong way? Idk

Maby making a "ai" spawn

[cedar meteor]

I still wonder if it might be certain times of the day that play a part

[whole hearth]

Could be

We thinking that Aurora could play a part

I wanted to get someone to host a server called Eldering...and then we all go to different spots on the map and see what happens during eah time

each time

Maby a type of AI spawns or a secret wall opens up? IDK

[turbid copper]

The aurora is just cosmetic

[cedar meteor]

yeah I noticed some areas that make me think it looooks like maybe it should be an opening. COuld just be those are less finished parts of the map though

[whole hearth]

I honestly think its something in the elder forest and somewhere in the middle of the map

That we need to be looking at

[frail salmon]

Could there be anything with the northern lights?

[whole hearth]

As far as we know its only cosmetic

[frail salmon]

Hmmm damn

[whole hearth]

but ill check ltr today

[frail salmon]

Yeh

[frail salmon]

If you could host one it would be great

[minor hinge]

all kown it it some kind of test that dragons can do So maybe it's tests of Strength, Speed, Endurance, and Skill.
Maybe Knowledge aswell

[turbid storm]

Someone reckoned they saw an elder/almost elder SS on Frozen Throne yesterday but I'm skeptical

[whole hearth]

Really?

I only know of someone with 20% ish elder ss

And I am on frozen throne

[quick glacier]

Maybe they saw an admin?

[whole hearth]

Maby...but why would admin be elder? Unless they cracked the code?

[quick glacier]

Maybe they're not telling us something or they somehow made themselves grow to instant elder

One of the admins I believe it was Nathan was showing of his elder ir not long ago showing us how it sounds and such

[whole hearth]

Hmm...

[turbid copper]

admins can't grow to elders

only devs

[quick glacier]

Well then maybe Nathan somehow found it out

He was showing it off on Dragonking server

[turbid storm]

Yeah I never saw it myself, I think they might have been lying to try and scare people idk

[whole hearth]

Possibly

[pine mica]

my friend on Drake just sleep near the big rock 10 min and she have 4%

[dense current]

are they on a 2x growth server?

[pine mica]

yes

[dense current]

yeah that would do it

normal tic for drakes is 2.1% roughly

[pine mica]

ok

[lone gulch]

Me and another Admin are going to look for hints again today

If anyone wants to join- we do juvi grows and it's x2 growth time. We'll care for food as well > Forgotten Omens

In about

10ish minutes

[whole hearth]

Sweet Ill be on in like 3 - 4 hours

Ill still join later anc check

[lone gulch]

I should be on then

[whole hearth]

👍

[frail salmon]

Saw an elder about 2 hours ago by arch on one of the Official Servers, either it’s with tick or through the new elder system that we don’t know about.

[quick glacier]

You sure it wasn't an admin spectating or something?

[rapid radish]

Where have you seen this happening? And do you have a screenshot?

[cold crest]

We cannot grow ourselves to elder. Ours will also be adults

[potent garnet]

Moonlight may I dm you? Not about eldering

[quick glacier]

How is it possible that Nathan (one of the admin) was showing an elder IR few days ago then?

[cold crest]

Sure

[potent garnet]

Ty

[cold crest]

A dev may have grown them if it was elder, or they figured out the elder process. Only they would know

[turbid copper]

yeaa not possible with ticks cuz it would take long to elder just with daily ticks

[whole hearth]

I'm looking at videos of DoD since after update 1.0 and...I see a lot of potential caves and caves that exist but are walled off

[turbid copper]

Those are just caves that will be in future updates

[lone pulsar]

Ah yes cave

[whole hearth]

Yexactly alot look like that

[trim horizon]

Just so we have a new map in here

[lone gulch]

i can confirm, the "green" in that sus green water comes from the sky and is merely a reflection

its only there if there is aurora in the sky which is green, otherwise its just the normal every day mud water.
Plus the "green" moves similar to the clouds in the sky, is therefore a reflection

[hallow kernel]

can confirm that as well

[lone gulch]

2 min later when there is no aurora anymore:

[hallow kernel]

on another note i still need to get my patreon role

[vast valley]

Just link your patreon with your discord, it should do it automatically

[hallow kernel]

it doesn't

wait what

[vast valley]

[hallow kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/really-oh-seriously-gif-1491191349695543664

i relinked my discord twice in patreon before and now out of the blue it just gave me the role

[vast valley]

https://tenor.com/view/mr-bean-gif-23140940

[low pond]

with tick he take 55 day for elder

[zealous urchin]

why is there so much patreon talk here, shouldnt this be used to figure out eldering? lol

[trim horizon]

There's like 5 messages about Patreon the rest are about eldering

[bleak python]

i just feel like its not coincidental that the dragons all glow colors that match the crystals around the map -- while we can't interact with them right now, i feel like its definitely part of it.

i feel like we're missing something

[karmic jolt]

The SS I grew yesterday is 1.3% elder growth and I have no idea how that happened.
Didn't do anything special with that one yesterday.

[turbid copper]

ticks

[trim horizon]

Probably passive

[karmic jolt]

That would be 0.9 then

[turbid copper]

My IR is 3.6 now

[trim horizon]

No that's ir

It's diff for ss

[karmic jolt]

Ah, fair enough. I wasn't aware of that.

Never mind then xD

[trim horizon]

All good

xD

[turbid copper]

Probably it will take weeks for us to find out

[lone gulch]

we need to keep that alive eventually Jao will notice

and give us a tip as a reward

[turbid copper]

[rapid radish]

I hope someone will make a emoji out of that xD

[whole hearth]

Hey what sever are you on again?

I want to join and help with the search

Anyone else getting this?

[lone gulch]

might be a bug

im on Forgotten Omens

we are currently looking at the NW side of the map

so from mist over snowy to PR everything

[whole hearth]

Ok cool im verifying files quickly

Then im on my way

[radiant hull]

anyone crack the code yet?

[rain lynx]

Not yet, workin on it

[frail salmon]

Not sure

[frail salmon]

Yeh so it must be through the new system

[crisp narwhal]

I've seen elder IRs on the server I play on, but they are only ever admins.

[turbid copper]

yep, maybe someone found it already

[vast valley]

Which server is this?

[frail salmon]

Could be or an admin

[turbid copper]

wdym

[vast valley]

Admins can’t grow to elder

[pine mica]

They can change files to get elder

[quick glacier]

Admin called Nathan has an elder from what I remember

[vast valley]

You can’t change the files

Admins can’t, even server owners can’t, they’re encrypted by a custom key

[pine mica]

owners of te server can

[vast valley]

No they can’t

I’m a server owner, I think I’d know

Trust me I’ve tried to access them - cannot

[warped gull]

how does scaleworx elder ppl then?

[pine mica]

I ask admin how he got elder and he say that

[vast valley]

It’s nothing to do with the files

[sick escarp]

A while before there was a discussion about a dev hint where the said something like: Do what drakes/dragons normally do. I have a question to that: Did the devs specifically say drakes?

[tame crest]

This is related to some of the settings you can disable/enable, its supposed to make you spawn as an adult but for some reason it spawns you as an elder.

But Scaleworx can't specifically make you an elder with admin commands.

[trim horizon]

alot of the admins on official servers have elders cause theyve gotten them grown

[vast valley]

Devs can grow to elder

[trim horizon]

not by themselves but by a dev

[vast valley]

^

[vast valley]

You mean about how it’s either the whole server immediately elders, or none?

[tame crest]

Yeah.

iirc its a bugged server variable combo

[vast valley]

Probably is

[pine mica]

Maybe need train your breathing and special ability

[frail salmon]

Maybe we should stop discussing about how the files and settings can get changed to get elder. We aint devs we gotta grow the dragons/drakes sooo lets jump back to the main topic.

How are we gonna discover how to reach elder without the ticks?

[turbid copper]

i ran out of ideas

[proper imp]

'If one has lost hope, the other will too. So never give up!' Hans 2023

[turbid copper]

https://tenor.com/view/twd-the-walking-dead-walking-dead-carl-andrew-lincoln-gif-7611127

[sick escarp]

If they specifically said drakes then we should probably only think about that. So Drakes at least in the game only refers to four legged dragons without wings right?

[crisp narwhal]

Forgotten Omens

[sick escarp]

So one thing that the Acid Spitter can do that the other implemented dragons can't is diving . How far have we experimented with that?

[frail salmon]

I’ve tried diving but I haven’t been successful

I’m thinking that there is something above the clouds for the dragons and something underwater for the drakes. Any suggestions?

[jagged patrol]

I have dived in all the lakes but have found nothing

[dawn pelican]

wise words hans

[turbid copper]

Nah i don't think so

[minor hinge]

As long you cannot swim that much I don't think that the secret we are in search of is in the water

[jagged patrol]

I don't think so either, but I'll try anything xD

[proper imp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067228836632219678/1077336245212037251/slither_medium_pers_texture.gif

[minor hinge]

Yeah I feel you xD

[frail salmon]

What more options do we have?

1. We have checked above the clouds and in depths of the water

2. The crystals have been tested but we got nothing

3. Map has been cleared

What is the next step

[turbid copper]

Giving up and cry

[compact kindle]

Mood

We tried running for ages, Flying nonstop as long as we can, Weve scowered the map for caves, NPCs and hidden items or objects. We did everything imaginable to crystals plus some

We tried sacrificing hatchlings, bugs and players to random items or locations

we tried roaring in several locations

We tried a theory about having one point in all three mutations to see if that did anything, Someone ate a bunch of red mushies to 100% sickness

[turbid copper]

This wouldn't make sense tbh

[compact kindle]

Elder forest was also thuroughly sweeped by a few people. Weve tried sleeping "Meditating" in various locations, during various points of time in the day. Every body od water has also been checked, Drank and swam in

[oak goblet]

at this point i think there is nothing else to do then just... wait for a hint tbh. Or maybe someone randomly finds it who know hehe

[potent garnet]

i believe it was based off of the swg's jedi unlock of learning several skill trees

[compact kindle]

It doesnt but this is what Ive seen in chat, Atm we have nothing to go on so trying anything is progress

[potent garnet]

the people who told me they got prog from killing dragons have conveniently lost said dragons when i asked for screenshots so we can write that off as well

[compact kindle]

Definately canot be tied to PvP, that would hurt the PVE base and PVE community is far more active and larger than the PvP community

[potent garnet]

i think it's best to try ideas before dismissing them

[rain lynx]

Could it have anything to do with temperature or comfort? I can't seem to change those though

[potent garnet]

i thought it was unlikely the devs coded two methods of eldering depending on whether it was pvp or pve, but i was told killing gave prog, so i waited for evidence and they could supply none

therefore: lying

[compact kindle]

I strongly believe the devs wouldnt just isolate 3/4 of their community from access something in a major plotline of the game

[potent garnet]

me too

[stark geyser]

I feel like this thread is continously going in circles debating the same 3 subjects and getting nowhere

[compact kindle]

I think those are implimented for biome travel which we currently dont have access to, Ive never seen it change from Comfortable

[rain lynx]

I've killed several adults of each species and it's done nothing

[turbid copper]

Isn't there anything in the lore of the game?

[potent garnet]

same, they claimed it was because they were grouped kills but since they couldn't give proof i don't believe them

[compact kindle]

People have combed these and the comics aswell

[turbid copper]

and nothin?

[compact kindle]

Nothing that Ive noticed has worked at least

[turbid copper]

ah rip

the lore was the best thing to find something, or close at least

[compact kindle]

Yeah

[turbid copper]

[compact kindle]

Unfortunately it looks as if we are at a stalemate until we are given something to theorize on, its not easy to figure out a puzzle when you have none of the pieces required to begin

[turbid copper]

true

[rain lynx]

I do hope it is actually possible and not just an unimplemented feature

[bleak python]

Have you guys who tested the crystals tried having a baby or juvie while glowing of each color in the arch cave and all do the same call at the same time?

Has it been tested with a group of players one at each color crystal all glowing spread out through the map?

[compact kindle]

Everything crystal related has been done, nesting included

Growing, Emoting, Biting, Shooting, Bile in general, Raising, Killing, Eating, Drinking

[bleak python]

You've had 5 glowing babies all in the same area at their coresponding crystals?

You've had 5 glowing adults do it? Juvies?

All growth stages?

[quick glacier]

What about logging out near the crystal and then logging in to get the tick?

[compact kindle]

The crystals dont do anything man its getting too elaborate

[compact kindle]

This has been done

[languid spoke]

i'm not sure eldering is a group process. yes Jao wants it to be a social game but that's not obtainable for solo players

[turbid copper]

Crystals are just cosmetic for caves

[bleak python]

It's definitely not a coincidence that the glows match the crystals.

[compact kindle]

^ This, Because Bios and Shimmering Caverns vibes

[waxen glen]

How is that at all supposed to be achievable by solo players x'D

[turbid copper]

ye

[bleak python]

Especially with the star wars references in the lore.

[compact kindle]

What are you talking about, The crystals jsut come in all colors

[languid spoke]

they're just cosmetics, pretty glowy ones

[bleak python]

The glows of the dragons match the colors of the crystals

I don't believe that to be a coincidence.

[turbid copper]

they are just colors

[compact kindle]

What other colors would they use?

Theyre basic colors

[languid spoke]

are you talking about the glow from bio breath on the dragons matching the crystal colors?

or the color the dragons glow when in the light of said crystal?

[bleak python]

bio breath

[compact kindle]

No draogn has Purple Bile tho

[languid spoke]

so you're saying that the bio breath matching the crystal colors isn't coincidence.....but, nothing happens with the crystals

[compact kindle]

Or white

[bleak python]

Which is why I asked the questions I asked

[languid spoke]

so like fs hit with bio breath glows the same color as one crystal, right?