#New Elder System
1 messages · Page 6 of 1
NO
Oh wait
I thought you were ab to say the new elder system is a battle pass
If that ever happened I'd cry
Omg y'all have been busy lmao
I couldn't even read everything I just had to skip to the bottom. Did we figure anything out?
Yes...mating with crystals don't work
So I was thinking last night.....
Oh yeah
I've tried it a few times
LMAO
Also people tried mating with a tree LOL
Yeah🤣🤣🤣🤣
I read this channel all the time, checked everything that was written here, flew around the entire map several times and I just can’t even imagine what they did, it’s either difficult for my mind or it’s so obvious that we don’t see it.

But not turned on yea
Easy guys the pearl is at the bottom of the lake, eat the pearl and you'll get a tic
Facts

I can go underwater
I can go under the map...BOOM I win
LOL
Mating with trees also didn't work!!
Think outside the box!!
The game can't handle complicated objectives so it's def something kinda simple
Weird …
You need to fly into each other at max speed and one will go to heaven an ascend and will come back as an elder
It wasn't me that did it, I was just sharing this info with the class
So I found in that comic it mentioned trials right? And then there was some talk about SWG and there are the padawan trials. What if it is like unlocking Mel where it's a bunch of VERY specific small goals like... fly to the very top until you hear the music or something. ASDs could have like use their full Stam bar by crouch running. Things very related to the game play and maybe even tailored to each dragon. In SWG no one actually knew how to unlock the jedi slot because it's random and gets unlocked as you play. Thoughts?
What if we mate with the water
You need to sacrifice a Dragon of yours to a shrine to unlock the eldering tic
Hear me out
No, we have to fly at exactly 88 miles per hour, and then go back to the future
Looool
Dragons of Bermuda. 
Aaaaaaah see you cracked the code
The only way to elder is by buying the eldering dlc
And it costs $500 plus tax
LMAO yes
My roomie told me to unlock the ability for the Jedi training, you had to speak to a specific npc and they'd only spawn if you became force sensitive tbf he also probably could just be recalling wrong cause that game is old af and it's been awhile since he's played it
We 2 call an NPC swamp snapper and he gives us quests
I watched vids on it earlier
I think Yoda needs to mate with a bio and then an egg will spawn..you eat it...gains its powers and then become an elder
For becoming jedi you had to complete a bunch of quests then find a random spawning npc
Maybe thats how we elder, by eating the children of the nest
Yeah but to become force sensitive is the part I'm talking about. I never played it so idk exactly that's just what I read
In order to elder u need to kidnap Pedro pascal
I ate plenty of children and haven't eldered yet
aweeee
Loooool
Aaah alr. I'll ask him and see what he says
Can we take andrew garfield too
Sus
We eat him to ealder
No this is sus
Perfect LOL
I eat children all the time no shame
Force sensitivity was a thing just in create a character
LOL
I'm also in mega hardcore server tho
We have to dice IShowSpeed as an ASD and if we win...we get elder
I'm just in Sanc cause I suck at pvp 💪
It was like you choose 1 character MAX that could become jedi
Me too LOL
That's what the force sensitivity was
hey just catching up the the messages now but there was another spot with green water and a log in the middle of it, someone may have pointed it out but around 202 S x 414 W
Nah everyone else are just way too good you don't suck
Genuinely have no clue how to elder
What about the red water that was mentioned? I saw someone mention red water earlier too
Rainbow water
Bathe in the water and you'll get elder
Red water?
Ye someone said something ab red water
Someone talked ab one of the crater impacts having red water
Lazarus pit I mentioned that earlier today
Go swim thereetr
Idk this is what I read, maybe you can further explain
"How do I unlock the FSCS?
Nobody knows. The process is thought to be tied to your account, and slightly different for everyone. According the the devs, a casual player might unlock their FSCS within a year or so of starting a regular character."
heading to the coords now
A YEAR?😭
😭
Well that's only to unlock jedi but force sensitivity was something you started with
I hope eldering doesn't take a year in this
Then the game was ruined when everyone unlocked jedi
I need jao to give a hint
Let's ping him
Guys this is a very different game I'm sure it won't take a year lol
I don't have a death wish
3
We get ban
Imagine choosing your color when you make a character right it's like thst
Bounty Hunter hunting Jedi was the best bit 🙂
So the water at the cords is a lil pond with a dead log in it that has a lil tree growing out of it, it does have a green tint to it but it just looks like alge
That*
I'm dewwaaad
Ngl though being Bounty Hunter on SWTOR was really fun
Anyone got coords for red water
If jao gives hint I'll sub to patreon
FACT
Many its a mandelorian thing... we need to rescue baby grogu and then protect him from the bounty hunters
We need to get an object
Give it to a shrine
And it'll grow us
So on swg imagine you had diff character creation slots and you had to choose 1 of them to make into a jedi
I mean the entire thing of players putting bounties on others and getting paid to take em out in PVP hehe
We really need a list of things already tried
You always could PT people just auto unlock it unlike others
We haven't tried snorting the crystals 👀
Emoting with crystals
Emoting with trees
Emoting in caves
All have not worked so far
i tried plasma blasting the crystals... they make a little more fizzly noise than other things, sometimes, but didn't do anything otherwise
GUYS I HAVE A THEORY HEAR ME OUT
lets hear it
I've flown the map over ab 50 times and nothing stuck out to me
I don't think it has to do with emotes at this point
specifically blue and purple brightly-glowing crystals, since i was an ss at the time and one of those colors seems to correspond with plasma
Many we have to shoot the crystals in a certain order? That's why some of them didn't make noise?
Half-right. The character you unlocked force sensitivity on was the one who became the Jedi, and you got a second slot to be whatever else after.
have we try this
I shot the same one multiple times, and it made a fizzly noise a few times, then stopped, tried a different crystal, came back, and it didn't fizzle
Mhh
Idk but I'm off to bed, ping me if you figured something out 
Night all
it is also entirely possible that elder isn't in the game yet. the answers Jao is giving now are remarkably similar to the ones he gave on the last map before the elder shrooms were implemented 😐
or "in the game, but not accessible," like blitz and broodwatcher
Like the weather is rn
Fandom said it was in the game though, just that no one's discovered it
idk, i feel like "behind one of the very obviously rock walls blocking off cave entrances around the map" could count as a reason why no one's discovered it
All Ik is I saw Bazelgeuse say on legacy that it would be very grindy and some type of quest
Same here
suppose someone could spin up a private server and clip themselves down there and see if there's anything that doesn't exist in the overworld
LOL
under the map? lots of water boxes and weird rocks, but not much else
hum
so, bio is a harmless cosmetic dragon
bio is rarely seen, bc its only for KS
bio can hover
also crystals is a big debate if its connected to elder system or not
all of that together tells, plus "elder system isnt campable" means ;
bio is rare, u need one to be an elder, and it does something with crystals * might be something else, but bio is related * BUT if it is, bio would do smth with crystals, and bc it can hover and devs already mentioned "it can hover to place nests in hard places no other dragon can reach" that explains why crystals are located in wierd places, and the bio would then do smth with the dragon to give it the elder growth or whatever
final points
1- bio is related to elder system
2- bio is an important aspect of elder system
3- crystals or maybe flowers, are also an important aspect of that (or just caves)
thats my theory, im growing one rn to try and test stuff on it, lets hope.
anyone tryy bio breathing on a nest? XD
Also explains be more social
I don't think it would require a paid dragon for a main game mechanic
I HEAVILY doubt that bios are anything to do with eldering, that’d be a long shot considering that it is reliant on kickstarters (which is a terrible game design choice imo if that is the case)
Exactly
yeah thats the only flaw in this
i would really hope bios aren't involved in eldering
Because yes, it’s based on a paid-for and currently unavailable dragon to anyone who wasn’t a kickstart (not counting nesting)
also dont forget !!!
Bios can't elder themselves so I wouldn't see why they'd be any part of it
Frfr
in lots of stuff jao was asked about skin costomization and other stuff
he ben answering "i want this game to be more social, u have to rely on team work, u cant do stuff by ur self sometimes " also the fact that behemoths and big clan dragons should be fed by the clan
so, a KS player, a nested bio player is a gift from god
Istg I'm going to crawl every inch of elder forest till I find sum useful
LOL
Jao's big on social stuff and also PVP iirc.
I am currently doing this
Lol to elder you have to kill another player in pvp with bio
Also all of this talk of SWG reminds me I need to reinstall SWG Resto server again
That would be super funny
LOL godspeed to you🫡
Loool
Ive found some interesting spots that may be added to/opened up later it no caves and what not.... also a hole of death.
Don't go in it😭
Let me just put my eldered all a++ dragon into this funny cave
Are you stuck
oh that thing
I've gotten stuck in there before
Risk it for the brisket
Probably a whole lot of nothing in it though aye?
Nah I'm free XD
i did find a LOT of them, and somehow got in some
Yeah its a pit of death XD
the ASD mushroom cave in river, there is an openin leads to a big cave in there
Ive been running around trying to force my way in cave if I have just to take a peek on the other side lol
a cave at BR waterfalls
hey
Thats near the death hole yea!

yes.
I remember in legacy, there was like a figure inside the walls of ASD cave
If you mean the one up on the mountain, wasn't that a sorta shrine to one of the admins or something
No thats bacon
ik, i was in a big clan at river, we had found a glitch in that glitch so if someone even knows that glitch they would still get ambushed
Yellow mushie cave near river was what I was referencing
It was a hollowed out portion of the cliff side
A den
what if they got something to hide..
ye
ALSO why is there an abnormal number of HUGE trees around the map?!
I looked all over the waters on the map and there wasn't anything special
Other than one of the lakes went waaaay deep
did u try NV to see INSIDE them?!
would be intresting
Yes
I did actually
I was swimming around with NV on looking around the terrain under the waters
yeah nothing in them
hmmmmm
Couldn't see anything interesting
I think we mightve mentioned it before but IF the crystals were apart of it wouldnt the colors represent the element and not the species itself? Orange - Fire, Blue-Plasma, Yellow-acid
And pink is the friends we made along the way
whats purple?
thunder
Green?
lightning
Creator skin crystal
Lightning probably XD
earth or plant
nicee Im set
🤣
pink is... idk maybe blitz element?
lolllll
Would assume green would be for brood since they kinda just shoot stuff from their tails
Love 
I don't think it's crystals anymore
I honestly think green would be for asds because the Q ability gives a green hue to the mouth of the asd
Broody just doesn't have an element.
maybe
I do think it could match a dragon's hoarding behavior
Poison is typically associated with green too
Yeah i didnt realize there were green crystals, havent seen any myself
But I don't think it fits well enough if eldering is based on behavior
I didn't either
I've only ever seen 1
Aaah wouldn't it suck if eldering didn't kick off until the first flat A stat dragon was born
Same
I'd have to look for it again
I feel like if anything it would be BLQ based
But I'm pretty sure I've seen a green crystal
It'd make more sense for sure
whats with everyone focusing on crystals like fr if it has nothing to do with them then we have wasted alot of time we should think of other stuff because we have thought of almost everything for crystals
Way too much grind
in case they are infact needed later on, cant completely rule one thing out rn, thats why my original statement said IF
Yuuuup. I don't think it is, because would it match the behavior thing they said the same thing about with the shrooms
If they were apart of eldering
Yeah I don't think crystals have any use except for looking pretty
They said we have the right tools
I think they might have been speaking literally now
Wouldn't wings and teeth count as tools?
Or the ability to nest?
Water, Food, a living dragon - Tools
I wonder if the special abilities have anything to do with anything ab eldering
It would be funny if they just meant being a dragon was the tool itself
I think it might be achievement based like some people suggested; what a dragon views as an achievement
LOL
Has anyone gone through the files? just to like check xD
Wouldn't a dragon view having offspring as an achievement?
I honestly love the idea that ever species has its own like "story line" to progress, its one perks it needs to succeed
Haven't gone through them lol
This is what ive been saying, Each species is slightly different but all share the same concept of eldering
Or a IR using its fire for a certain amount of time?
I had the fire on for like 45 mins at one point, all that happened was a lot of people made references to roasting marshmallows
I think thats too simple, I doubt its something you can jsut accidentaly achieve
loool
I think the tool is your dragon, and you need to follow certain behaviors that a dragon could consider an achievement
Slaying another dragon would probably be considered an achievement, but how for pve
Someone mentioned they had a special text pop up after setting down a nest
ai dragon maybe
Did they note what the text said?
"You start to feel stronger"
You sense one of your nests in this area
Oh that's just the elder tick
Yes
12 hour elder ticks are still a thing
That's what it said in legacy too
i've seen only 1, at BR cave
if jao said he wants the game to be more social its possible that we have to have 2 ppl to elder
But as soon as the nest is put down?
That's some nice timing
Timing seems unlikely
this is passive growth daily tick
Normally you have to log back out and back in to get it though
I will try to recreate what he did once I get on
I always assumed it'd be automatic
everytime ive gotten my passive its been after logging out and rejoining
it was the same in legacy
I just woke up and I'm starving lol
It might be automatic now though
I always got it after logging in for the first time
At least from what ive seen its not
i hit the 12 hour mark while playing with no tick until i relogged
If you logged out at 6 hours and came back tho youd get it without relogging at the 12 hour mark
Idk but I feel like it just happens whenever
It was the same in legacy though, ppl Had to relog to get the tick for passive so its possible its still the same now
its 24hour tick.
That was me but idk if it was because of the nest tbh
When I was nesting earlier around like 9 hours ago I had gotten my elder tick after playing for a few hours already
I don't think it was passive growth tick because it was a fresh spawn like maybe 5min adult
If you were admin grown it gives you tick immedately
ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh okay. I did not know that
I don't get that tick every time though?
Im not sure why it does it but I noticed it when I was messing around on my server
I didn't even know admins grow people
I dont think its intended I think its a bug and sometimes it just happens
okay
on private servers
Private servers, some have growth events
Ooooh alr
maybe admins are just randomly growing lol
Gotcha
I've been hopping around private servers giving skins away and that was a one time event that happened and I tried to recreate it and couldn't so it's been flagged in my memory lol
also guys dont forget bio element is "Unique"
on scaleworx theres for example a free grow to juvie every 24 hours (normally) atm its unlimited juvie grows until the 25th
I joined one unofficial server back when legacy was still the main and they were super mean to me ;v;
unofficials are very hit or miss
They shouldn't have been mean
some are so chill and others it's like pulling teeth
I feeeel that
Theyre a gamble for sure
Probably why most people join official or just host a server with their friends for their friends instead of risking it
Funny thing is I'm still in their discord inactive af and they haven't noticed lol
LOL
Yeah unless they're a large named server, I won't play on them. I don't want to wake up one day and see all my progress wiped because they took it down lol Especially with the in depth breeding we have now
Literally, I would sob
Ooh yeah I do all the main breeding on officials cause of that
Same lmao
Fr related to EVERYONE atp
I can only trust my own private server cause ik I wouldn't do people like that
Looool
Nope
I haven't got an fs yet ;v;
i'm growing one now
;-;
I'm clutching the IR pop rn 😭💪
what if eldering is chilling in caves, so the power of crystals gets trasferred to you?!
Its been tried
shhhh we'll anger the elders if we keep talking about the crystals
I think people tried afk-ing caves and nothing really happened
Distant Elder Rage Noises
NO PLS IVE BEEN GOOD
I'm gonna go to Ilum and harvest all of those kyber crystals in a minute 
hold on maybe logging in caves so the daily tick thing increaes?!
Chilling, Nesting, Logging out with crystals its all been done
anyone knows how logging off in caves of Path of Titans work>
yeah i was on an IR because I got nested. Then was going to switch to SS because it be zooming. But then I was talking to hubby about starwars and he gave me an idea about "sensing" the force so it made me think of heat vision
daaamn..
Loool clutching the whole population
Can I come? I just wanna watch, maybe find a grogu to take care of
Bring your cold weather gear, its a bit nippy.
Bet
See I'm curious if we have to sense something too
Maybe with NV
Like if there's a specific area, or a thing we have to be in the vicinity of
Yeah like maybe all dragons can sense but only the FS can see "it"
That would be campable tho
not if it's all around the map
Idkkk, it can be set up in a way that it's not
w/e "it" may be
Information on eldering thats been gathered so far is basically;
(repost so it doesnt get lost)
-
Should be solo-able (not officially confirmed)
-
Is not campable
-
Doesnt seem to involve crystals Ive been watching thischat for a few days everthing has been done with them.
-
Jao likes starwars - but there is nothing that has stated it is related to his insperation of the series
-
Jao loves references
-
May be different per species
-
Likely same method across server type / This deletes the idea that its kill based
-
Likely "grindy"
Ok i think we are looking at campable the wrong way
I feel like maybe it's something NV related
I think theyre talking about in a way like with the shrooms, we had to tell ppl when we were hunting and some ppl would just chill on the spawns and take them
thats campable
NV related how? RiP Ravagers lol
When I think campable is what players were doing with the shrooms on legacy
Ir have nv
Yeah holding the area, afking it to popup
i'll add jao's qoute on it
Yee
If its just a spot that everyone can grow and elder in without worry about others taking that thing
is diffferent
noc can you pin it?
Maybe the sensing part involves our assassins creed Night vision
I cant pin sadly
Would need a discord mod for pins
It doesn't have to be a thing that's taken or used by anyone though, it could just be a thing we need to discover. Cause I imagine there will be multiple like, stages or something since it's supposed to be grindy
Until the Alpha clan emerges and stops everyone from getting it that'd be camping
On pvp servers yeah
Truth fr
But thats why we said something about having multiple spots
that makes it less campable for the pvp servers
Information on eldering thats been gathered so far is basically;
(repost so it doesnt get lost)
Should be solo-able (not officially confirmed)
Is not campable
Doesnt seem to involve crystals Ive been watching thischat for a few days everthing has been done with them.
Jao likes starwars - but there is nothing that has stated it is related to his insperation of the series
Jao loves references
May be different per species
Likely same method across server type / This deletes the idea that its kill based
Likely "grindy"
jao qoute : you have to REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED then obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED
(seems unhelpful but its something)
Youd be surprsied how well an Alpha clan can hold a majority of the map
I wonder if there are little spots around the map that we're meant to discover just by exploring and getting lost
Like a quest
is that a real quote or just being playful?
Real quote
It was something he said.
no no its lettirally what he said
Maybe
Lets play a game of hangman
lettirally
Lol when I ran into SuperRhino earlier, he literally said "To elder, you have to [REDACTED]"
Yeah
D: It disapeared
Should've grabbed an ss, now I'm mad I didn't
The daily tick gives 1.8 growth for elder right?
does anyone have the quote about the SWG? I still don't know if he was trolling or there was a legit relation
What was the quote
I wish
Im asking lol
It wasn't something written it was spoken.
So a 1 to 1 recollection won't be possible.
It wasnt a quote, it was a story
It's alrighty we're all tired and blind
do you know what exactly was said?
Word for word? No, Soemthing about people spoilering the jedi thing
since it seems to invovle more then one stats, having the sentence written out is helpfull since we can fill out the blank spots one by one
and thats why they didnt want to give hints or outright say it, lost its
Spazzaz 
Loool
With the old way of getting Jedi requiring a series of things to do that you'd have to figure out on your own over a very long time but since the internet is the internet people would write guides, and also the dreaded NGE update let everyone Jedi anyway.
Or is the growth amount for elder random that you get with the daily tick?
It should be specific depending on what youre playing
its 0.9 for IR (On official servers)
^
ye
If the server is 1.5 or 2x itll be more per tick tho
^^^
Nonetheless, server is 2x growth, it gaves me 1.8 growth into elder via tick (Inferno Ravager) but now, I suddenly got 3.6 growth into elder
I went into the cave at arch before having gotten that second tick idk
Yup that would be about right for passive ticks
Or how long was it when you got your second tick?
definitely not 24 hours after, I have been playing the whole time after logging in and gotten that first tick
When did they change the 12hour passive to 24?
Its still 12
xD i was about to say
I mean that lol I am watching a vid got distracted xD
Were you admin grown?
But I had gotten that first tick when I logged in, and it hasn't been even 2 hours from when that second tick came that's why I am so confused
no
If all you did was enter the Arch cave Iits likely just passive
Everyones tried a bunch of tihngs in that place and got nothing from it
The next question is what did you do before you entered arch?
The issue being that actually getting the elder tick can take like 30 secs to actually show up
Flew around, nothing special, unless it adds up to the theory of flying/traveling X amount
Is it possible that 2x also shortens the time for passive elder ticks too?
Sounds like its just a passive tick
I debunked that on the IR already, flying for hours
thats what i was thinking it was actually flying around for x distance
but what if it has to be above the clouds
hm
Thats where I take all my screenshots 
flew from top of snowy mountain across the map above the clouds until my stam and secondwind ran out
ok so that narrows it down, its on the ground
are we certain its the same for every dragon/drake tho?
no lol
if it was a flying thing, it wouldnt be for asd
bios cant be elder so dont use those
I jsut spent the last few hours doing circles over the map with SS so its not for that dragon either
but what if its in the map somewhere, not over it
it could be covered by trees, or a rock
so flying over it, you could fly right past it
Yeah that was my theory today, Ive been scoping every cavey like spot, in and around rocks and formations
Water sources aswell
Some portions of forests but with the lack of food its hard to stay in the woods, given the size of them
everyone should try to get a replay recording thing set up so they can just hit a button and get the last 30s - a few min and see what they did
Ive been on 7 hours just sweeping the map for most of it
Im still sitting on 0.0 elder 
i feel like at this point, people are jotting down every little action they do
all my dragons I never got nested, I grew an SS to adult, died, and I suddenly had a mela.
but what if the point is to go somewhere with minimal food, i doubt the way to elder would be a piece of cake to get to
Thats most of the map atm until the hotfix
i have an asd at like 8% elder, ill run around the map on that for a bit
Yeah i think we established that already lol
the idea of it being something thats "hidden" from the air sounds like something tbh. I think that if its an actual thing we need to interact with in some way, its gonna either be in a hidden hard to find place or a thing that doesnt stand out imo
😭
yeah but if you're not paying attention you might be able to capture it if you have your time set far enough out
I think something similar to this as well
this was my thought, that way it would be accesable to other dragons, but you cant fly above the trees for it
I think its a task personally, something you do in game that doesnt involve a specific item or place
Yeah that's something i want to test too. It could be a bunch of little very specific tasks tailored to dragon species or something
I used to think it had to do with the eventual death worms that will be added, like killing one would grant you elder points, but that's so far off in updates it can't be it
where should i take my 10% elder asd first?
everyone start offering bugs at any cave they go to with crystals and 1 call 3 times (this theory comes from the sir bacon memorial's mechanics) it could be reused
I'm genuinely curious if they repurposed SirBacon
Maybe we need to almost die but not to elder
Like almost starving in a certain area
what if we need to go to sir bacons favorite place and do something specific
tried, it doesnt exist
new people wouldn't know that
maybe just the area?
If anything, he'd be an NPC we'd have to locate somehow
Like the special cave in the mountains on legacy
who is sir bacon
Maybe they moved the cave
He was a member of staff that passed away
Theres no NPC in any of the caves
A really cool community member that passed IRL and a memorial was set up for him in legacy
Any of the currently accessible caves anyways
.>
<.<
...anyone notice that the bio flowers close at night?
imma set up my clipping software again just in case i somehow miss it
im rather blind
Oh he wasn't staff? I thought he was staff
they close when you eat them, not at night
they close when they are eaten
He may have been it was a while ago and I had left for a while
I did too, took a long break between 2020 and 2022
or, at least, i saw them open in the morning
I think someone said before that they were staff
the top 3 also close when you eat them
He probably was then, I don't remember
oh thats sad but cool how he got a memorial ingame so people will remember him ingame
I just remember when he was a KSer, cool dude. Funny
they ended up being staff here
ye, i don't think it got carried to 1.0 though. I think he remains in legacy
Maaaan, I wish they did cause I want my pet bug back
they should add his name engraved into the rock on bigrock
with that being said, the mechanics for it tho i feel could have been redone
So many fond memories dancing with my little bacon
im gonna make a KB macro for eating and drinking. QoL should just make it a toggle lol
FRRR
Loool
where was bacon's memorial?
it was in snowy, its gone now
ahh
Between the two snowy peaks
Gone gone?
It's not in legacy now?
hi where is the cave ?
I heard it was staying in legacy. I haven't been back on legacy to confirm
its still in legacy, it never got updated
At arch, there's an entrance at the right big stone, weird to explain when you ain't in game lol
the two big rocks in front of the snow-capped mountain? XD
2x might mess with the daily elder ticks
so we cant go off of that
i dont think anything happened to me when i was there
ill check it out again rq
2x growth doubles the elder tick
i have found this cave
we figure anything new out?
Mating random trees doesn't work either, can confirm
...
For that nesting elder tick, you said it was at the island, right?
Was there a specific roar you used too?
and a specific spot the nest was in?
eh, i just get elder ticks over time :/
tried flying through the fallen tree, almost ended in my demise dont do it
like ik someone who has already like 5% or so on one dragon, would have to ask again
thank you for taking one for the team, hope the splinters weren't too bad
...
I've been passing pinecones for three hours send a doctor
no.
hm
any one looked into the philipino's theory ?
no, whats that?
think someone said that didnt work
my theory with the bugs x 1 calling 3 times offering them to crystals didnt work either
i'll have to test a second time
Someone told me it was because I was grown by admin, so probably nothing there. If you still want to test it though, I was a Male ASD I had just bred, my mate put down a nest and I did a 1 call. It was on the little island on the far side from the circle rocks in the water
if you were admin grown, you can still get random elder ticks
did it say you feel stronger or any other prompt?
Yeah but I think what they were saying was that specific tick was caused by the admin growth
I'm trying to think of behaviors dragons would do
It did
philipino dude's said it's in the waters
if it is, theres no real way to swim down
but asds thing could be something to do with getting to hard to reach spots
I didn't see anything in the waters when I was swimming around with NV on
i think that guy was a troll
If we take what they said about shrooms not being a dragon-like behavior, and the dragon itself being the tool we need
to be fair
was he on a faster grow server?
lots of predators ingest toxins for stuff
also was he on since day one?
What could be taken as a behavior a progressing adult dragon would do?
at the big tree you can drink water XD at the root
A list of things that can take time
guys im gonna swim across the lake
fight for territory, patrol territory, challenge elders for their territory, get ran out of territory
longways
Aggression and territorial, but pvp wouldn't work on pve
True, but what about nesting, exploring, and hunting ai
We've been doing all that though
those could be definite PVE things
Well have to see if they implement ai
Truuuust me there's no shortage of nests on Sanc lool
the bugs are ai in a way
I just think that it can't be a location or resource anymore
well i know flying dragons loved to fly through the small gap in arch rock on legacy
can dragons drown? i wanan see if i get a tick from swimming across the entire lake longways
Don't think so
I don't think so
If you do though let us know
One of my baby bios tested out drowning and didn't succeed
LOL
alr then
Jao's quote: You have * * * then obviously have to go to * to get *
What if it's a list of behaviors and THEN a location?
What if it's
could also need to get to a certain % through time ticks, then do something
You have to hunt, breed, and explore, then obviously have to go to * to get Elder
You have melanistic then go to here to get a quest
we gotta take into account that this qoute from Jao might just be a red herring aswell tho
is this concrete or was he just saying that for a joke?
did he say it was true or not tho
He said it, I just didn't feel like typing redacted that many times lol
Well he's said it at least twice now
no i mean did he say that in the EXACT order its meant to be or was it suppost to be taken as a joke
Just copy paste the word redacted
It WOULD line up with his older comment about why he hated the shroom method
He's said it in that format twice
Yeah
Pretty much word for word
It's like he has a copy paste of it ready for everyone lol
I wish I grabbed a screenshot >:I
I knowwww
I am 99% sure it has nothing to do with crystals or bugs anymore
Tbh it wouldn't have surprised me if he never put a system in, just kept the passive and then made us believe we had to breed & survive for eldering, when really it is just a passive
wonder if the elder system is even in the game right now
It's in the game
According to Fandom, it's in the game
Might just be off
and all this time we have all been running around like chickens with there heads cut off
I think eldering is in the game, but only as passive. We all know he hasn't kept to his word before
Idk cause I feel like that'd tick a lot of players off
oof more people about to be pissed off
he already said its ingame, but wont say how to do it so its a surprise
Yeah lol
if its truly not in at the moment
how do you know your %? is it somewhere ont he hud?
and its not by passive elder ticks
Jao is a troll so maybe lol
LOL
yup
I don't think he cares when he has the mods to delete comments
It's on your health page
There's a growth bar when you press I to see your status
ty ty
oh yea and swimming across the entire lake did nothing
Just got my passive tick after logging on
i mean, if it's not implemented yet what's the worse that's happened? we spent time trying things and thinking really hard 😂
I think it's something else
its already implimented, the mods even said its in
It'd make sense on why they're keeping it so hush hush
Maybe
and why would this channel be here if it wasnt real
Jao's quote: You have * * * then obviously have to go to * to get *... So it kind of sounds like you have to go to 2 separate places and do 2 separate things
Okaaaaay
my bet is, you need to get to 100% on the passive eldering and THEN do something to "evolve" so to speak. like "okay your at 100% now you go do X and you hit elder"

yea thats right, they just put (redacted) in between
I would scream
I don't think so
Lol
what if its just hit 100% then? has that been done?
I'm not waiting 2 months for slightly better stats and the ability to see my passives
There's gotta be a thingy
for the thingy
to become the thingy
I mean everyone is talking ab the star wars thing the only thing similar to that would be doing the mela quest
guys its not passive ticks, theres another way that was already confirmed
Not yet, it'd take at least 50 days to passive elder with ticks
could it be something with nightvision? like... something you can only see with that active? just a thought
wait what
I mean it could be as simple as "You have to grow to adult then obviously..."
jao said it in the qna
could you repeat it here?
Depends on the dragon, my asd is already at 10%
Jao's quote: You have to grow to adult then obviously have to go to * to get elder
Where's qna?
^
that
the qna was in the discord
oh wait thats the quote?
Oh wow, ggs
is my interpretation
oh
Jao's quote: You have * * * then obviously have to go to * to get *
*jao qoute : you have to REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED then obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED *
You have to grow to adult then obviously have to go to * to get elder
And gets like 2% a passive tick
you go to <a location> to get your Jedi robes
Asd*
I'm taking it as this:
How many times has this update been delayed? How many times has there been an uproar with the fairness for kickstarters and patreons? How many times have comments just stating their opinion been deleted because him and the mods disagreed?
I will keep trying theories and all that, but I don't have hope that a system is actually in place, and his quote isn't useful (right now?)
right, so like i said before the location is prob something that you have to fly low to see, you cant be above the trees
drakes need to get to it too remeber
I've tried the mountains so those are out
i wouldnt be surprised if BLQ/Life Expectancy was a part of it cause didnt he say something about how be wanted those to matter?
flight isnt a requirement UNLESS its species specific* (the locatio nchanging per species)
Okay, I'll list off the notable places I've seen then
I dont think it's in yet either, but I dont have anything better to do
thats why i said you cant be above the trees to see it, you have to be on the ground
So... Perhaps the forest
Atp we've done everything
Ok if you're not going to be helpful trying to brainstorm elder you can take your negativity to general lol This thread is for eldering ideas not debating right and wrongs that have been done.
maybe just make the eldering another growth stage that takes several hours of in game time like 10 or 15 or something to get to instead of all the crazy stuff they are doing maybe save the crazy stuff for if they are actually going to bring in being able to become ancient dragons i remember that video showing the giant dragons
how are you thinking all of this when its been said multiple times by mods and devs that its ingame, along with given a "hint" of what to do by jao
could be
You have to grow to adult then obviously have to go to REDACTED to get elder
right
I simply don't believe what he says to hold much value.
gl then
so there IS a location involved, but the question is where it is
Technically the blitz is in game, just not activated, they could just be being careful with wording
Elder forest has a MASSIVE amount of caves, to the SW is 2 seeming impact craters, there is the gorge, throne rock, the big tri cross rock, the giant tree on the mountain, BR, and the moors to the SW and NW
cool then don't worry about this thread then lol
Elder forest?
HMMMM
SW canyon
I SHALL MATE WITH THE TREES THERE
We don't know if it's grow to adult I was just saying it could be something that simple
elder forest might actually have some use
I honestly think it must be a cave that is hard to find, and must be something in that cave
There's a ton of stuff in Elder forest
I'm en route there as we speak
elder forest might give us a lead on what to do, its in the name
Enough I've found a LOT, but I doubt I found it all
I'll keep collecting passive tuckd and wandering on my asd in case you need to get to a certain % for the next step
Ticks*
Anyone got cords to elder forest?
AI spawns insanely quick, tons of shrooms, lots of caves, many water sources
close one i kown to Ef is 6S 688W
It's the best place to hide something on the map
Maybe we have to spend more time on the ground than in the air
Searching *
mind you wasnt it also confirmed its not a camp-able thing?
im thinking its on the ground bc asds have to do something
There's absolutely no food in the entire corner of the map nu ravine, could be to keep people from looking to hard there?
By*
it could be species specific too! asd's "theoretical location" could be different from a shadow scales eldering spot
290 S 50 W
THATS true, we must concider this
Perhaps its client side so you can only see it yourself so noncampable
where would FS and IR go tho?
because isnt there also potential for a fully aquatic dragon? or is the tidal guy gonna get to go on land?

FS and IR would need something like a Volcano
im thinking a location might not be the right idea but thats jsut me
mostly because the map isnt finished (that im aware of)
my bet is its get to 100%, or get to 100% and then do X
As much as I love this idea, then it would be exploited by PC time changes like the ToD was
for how rare elder is meant to be, i wouldnt put it past them to want you to get to 100% on the percentage thing
hmmmmmm someones gonna test that now that you mention it
and if 100% doesnt do it, then we knwo for sure its 100% and then do XYZ etc etc
know*
that or the percentage increasing is just a bug

think it was referenced that you have to "go to REDACTED" wherever thats at
what if its "you have to get to 100% and then die"

reincarnate yourself
that'd be funny
Whats the growth percent in stats for only one passive tick
And I have 2.7 on mine
Ok cool I was worried I managed to do someonething to get a tick besides passives
i did say about and like
so they kicked out the guy that figured out the elder tics and was gonna record for us
did he? we are talking to him and he said he was kicked unless thats not true
Nah, he left
Its not, the mods confirmed it
sus
No it was only SMaug who was cheating
^
Maybe because he kept getting spammed with questions?
Eon more than liekly left
That'd make me leave tbf
could just be a person thats trying to wind us up honestly "i know the truth!" vanishes
could be
Or trolling
right, cant trust what random people like that say
exactly
and yay im stuck in the ravine 😭
let me get his last clue we got in dms, one sec
whos clue?
well theres nothing here incase anyone was wondering
yeah anyone new coming in: we still have nothing.
Well firstly what were the clues provided.
If you're talking to him why isn't he just giving you a vid like he said instead of clues?
We need to outline though first
Depends also on the server I think because if have 2x grow
There are no "hints" given atm
yeah i was there a few days ago and it looks far too unfinished to have something that important in it
''at night you spawn pearls in the forest, taste here in the game'' translated ofc
Pearls are confirmed disabled
i suspect pearls is not actually pearls but something else butchered by translator
cause ya pearls arent in game, and are not tied to night time
or maybe he's trolling lol
could be
He lost credibility for me when he said he was chatting with Jao in DMs
personally im not trusting anything aside from what mods/devs say.
tbh that wouldnt surprise me, that jao hopped in his dms and was telling him not to tell anyone
legit wouldnt surprise me at all
Good luck on your pearl journey in the woods then let us know if something spawns
I am not going back out there 
still, we shouldnt theorycraft based on one random person right?
It would me. I don't think he cares how fast we find it. We found elder with the shrooms pretty fast
if we had any other leads......id agree lol
but we gotta investigate everything at this point
i mean fair, has anyone tried just getting to 100%?
He said he'd start dropping hints if we don't find it fast enough so why would he do that and then dm some rando telling him to stfu? Makes no sense imo
i mean....its jao
It works, its passive eldering
meaning?
so passive eldering DOES work the yes?
then*
Yes
meaning theres plenty that doesnt make sense
It absolutely does work
im at 10% passive for sure works
lol thin
Where did the hint I remember seeing "Beyond our borders, beyond our mountains" come from
SirBacon was a great friend and Senior Admin for DoD. He unfortunately passed away last summer. As a wonderful tribute, the dev team added his dragon into the game in his favourite spot.
Players could go and talk to his NPC, listen to the music playing, and even get a thornback crawler pet 
Preserve this pure bean
well the border smashes my face in every time i try to go beyond it sooooooo
listen im just being realistic here, gotta make sure for people who come in they know you cna actually get elder. as in there is a way that works
it just takes a while
its a lot better than not being able to elder at all right?
id rather have a method confirmed that works than nothing
we also got a hint about something in the waters
that was removed?
something in the waters might just be the new dragon right? or is this elder specific hint
I think that was from the EON guy so that could be bs dunno
thats so cool! is the pet and the npc still there?
Theres the massive lake to the SW past the moors
Omg I didn't know this, where's the spot?
it was yes
it was on a mountain and not there anymore
Just beside the border
i didnt know the game had pets
had
LEgacy Only
ah it was a legacy thing then
if you're on a boosted growth server it gives you more
I believe you can still find him on legacy
will the pet transfer to 1.0? seems cool and nice way to remember him while showing off
He is still on legacy 
That I'm not sure of at the moment
Staff are also in the dark when it comes to the eldering system
So it's a surprise for us too
I guess that makes sense
huh cool i might go collect it ingame now then
i kown it not in ice cave it not there in 1.0 i look over it
I just got music
maybe traveling x number of meters or visiting x number of landmarks for helping get elder?
from flying above the clouds during night time into the auroras
Nah
nah saying i went from arch to the other side and around the map it doesnt help
this is normal
Is it?
Yes
cause my music is turned off
You get the music in legacy too, when you fly high
could always be multiple requirements before you officially get the tick(s)
thats an elder tick
you got a tic
you get those every 12 hours
Idk ive been on this one for an hr and its been full adult so
It’s a tick
yea normal elder tick
what % was the tick?
and what dragon are you>?
IR
how much did u get?
1 elder tick is usually 1% im 2% rn so it could be something linked
Unless im stupid and didnt see my frist tick last night
I’m 2.7 on my IR
odd
And I didn’t see mine either
im pretty sure ir gets .9% per tick
does official server have 1.5x?
No
1.0x
pro tip... do not dive full speed into crater lake it is uh. very deep
lol you know you can see through the water with NV?
i can? o.o
mmhmm
oh hecking cool
thats what ive been doing

