#New Elder System

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whole hearth
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Pretty.. .mysterious...

stable comet
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NO

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Oh wait

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I thought you were ab to say the new elder system is a battle pass

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If that ever happened I'd cry

whole hearth
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💀

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Could u imagine....

civic niche
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Omg y'all have been busy lmao

whole hearth
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Think dod will lose like 90% of all players

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If that was a thing...

civic niche
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I couldn't even read everything I just had to skip to the bottom. Did we figure anything out?

stable comet
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Nope

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Summary

whole hearth
civic niche
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So I was thinking last night.....

stable comet
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Oh yeah

whole hearth
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I've tried it a few times

civic niche
stable comet
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Also people tried mating with a tree LOL

whole hearth
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Yeah🤣🤣🤣🤣

scarlet plover
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I read this channel all the time, checked everything that was written here, flew around the entire map several times and I just can’t even imagine what they did, it’s either difficult for my mind or it’s so obvious that we don’t see it.bonk

stable comet
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Probably not turned on

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Like how the weather is in the game

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Just turned off

whole hearth
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But not turned on yea

dreamy acorn
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Easy guys the pearl is at the bottom of the lake, eat the pearl and you'll get a tic

whole hearth
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Facts

scarlet plover
whole hearth
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Even tho we can't dive...

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We need to try

dreamy acorn
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I can go underwater

whole hearth
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I can go under the map...BOOM I win

dreamy acorn
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LOL

wintry turtle
dreamy acorn
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Think outside the box!!
The game can't handle complicated objectives so it's def something kinda simple

scarlet plover
whole hearth
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You need to fly into each other at max speed and one will go to heaven an ascend and will come back as an elder

wintry turtle
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It wasn't me that did it, I was just sharing this info with the class

civic niche
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So I found in that comic it mentioned trials right? And then there was some talk about SWG and there are the padawan trials. What if it is like unlocking Mel where it's a bunch of VERY specific small goals like... fly to the very top until you hear the music or something. ASDs could have like use their full Stam bar by crouch running. Things very related to the game play and maybe even tailored to each dragon. In SWG no one actually knew how to unlock the jedi slot because it's random and gets unlocked as you play. Thoughts?

stable comet
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What if we mate with the water

dreamy acorn
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You need to sacrifice a Dragon of yours to a shrine to unlock the eldering tic

stable comet
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Hear me out

wintry turtle
whole hearth
dreamy acorn
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The only way to elder is by buying the eldering dlc

turbid yoke
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XD

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21 of june

whole hearth
dreamy acorn
wintry turtle
dreamy acorn
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We 2 call an NPC swamp snapper and he gives us quests

stable comet
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I watched vids on it earlier

whole hearth
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I think Yoda needs to mate with a bio and then an egg will spawn..you eat it...gains its powers and then become an elder

stable comet
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For becoming jedi you had to complete a bunch of quests then find a random spawning npc

fading canyon
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Maybe thats how we elder, by eating the children of the nest

civic niche
dreamy acorn
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In order to elder u need to kidnap Pedro pascal

wintry turtle
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I ate plenty of children and haven't eldered yet

fading canyon
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aweeee

stable comet
wintry turtle
fading canyon
wintry turtle
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LISTEN

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I was at 60 hunger alr

dreamy acorn
whole hearth
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No this is sus

fading canyon
dreamy acorn
stable comet
wintry turtle
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LOL

dreamy acorn
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I'm also in mega hardcore server tho

whole hearth
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We have to dice IShowSpeed as an ASD and if we win...we get elder

wintry turtle
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I'm just in Sanc cause I suck at pvp 💪

stable comet
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It was like you choose 1 character MAX that could become jedi

dreamy acorn
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Me too LOL

stable comet
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That's what the force sensitivity was

hybrid cloud
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hey just catching up the the messages now but there was another spot with green water and a log in the middle of it, someone may have pointed it out but around 202 S x 414 W

stable comet
dreamy acorn
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Genuinely have no clue how to elder

wintry turtle
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What about the red water that was mentioned? I saw someone mention red water earlier too

stable comet
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Rainbow water

dreamy acorn
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Bathe in the water and you'll get elder

stable comet
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Ye someone said something ab red water

wintry turtle
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Someone talked ab one of the crater impacts having red water

whole hearth
dreamy acorn
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Go swim thereetr

civic niche
# stable comet Force sensitivity was a thing just in create a character

Idk this is what I read, maybe you can further explain

"How do I unlock the FSCS?
Nobody knows. The process is thought to be tied to your account, and slightly different for everyone. According the the devs, a casual player might unlock their FSCS within a year or so of starting a regular character."

fading canyon
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heading to the coords now

whole hearth
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Many you need to die in the water? And then you come back as an elder?

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Maby

tame crest
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Yeah it was supposed to be a challenge.

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Until the NGE update hit anyway.

wintry turtle
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😭

stable comet
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Well that's only to unlock jedi but force sensitivity was something you started with

wintry turtle
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I hope eldering doesn't take a year in this

stable comet
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Then the game was ruined when everyone unlocked jedi

dreamy acorn
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I need jao to give a hint

whole hearth
civic niche
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Guys this is a very different game I'm sure it won't take a year lol

whole hearth
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All together now

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wintry turtle
whole hearth
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3

dreamy acorn
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We get ban

stable comet
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Imagine choosing your color when you make a character right it's like thst

tame crest
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Bounty Hunter hunting Jedi was the best bit 🙂

fading canyon
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So the water at the cords is a lil pond with a dead log in it that has a lil tree growing out of it, it does have a green tint to it but it just looks like alge

stable comet
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That*

dreamy acorn
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I'm dewwaaad

wintry turtle
mellow dawn
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Anyone got coords for red water

dreamy acorn
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If jao gives hint I'll sub to patreon

whole hearth
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Many its a mandelorian thing... we need to rescue baby grogu and then protect him from the bounty hunters

dreamy acorn
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We need to get an object
Give it to a shrine
And it'll grow us

stable comet
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So on swg imagine you had diff character creation slots and you had to choose 1 of them to make into a jedi

tame crest
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I mean the entire thing of players putting bounties on others and getting paid to take em out in PVP hehe

mellow dawn
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We really need a list of things already tried

pine wedge
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You always could PT people just auto unlock it unlike others

whole hearth
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We haven't tried snorting the crystals 👀

wintry turtle
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Emoting with crystals
Emoting with trees
Emoting in caves

All have not worked so far

forest lake
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i tried plasma blasting the crystals... they make a little more fizzly noise than other things, sometimes, but didn't do anything otherwise

stray notch
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GUYS I HAVE A THEORY HEAR ME OUT

pine wedge
wintry turtle
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I've flown the map over ab 50 times and nothing stuck out to me

stable comet
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I don't think it has to do with emotes at this point

forest lake
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specifically blue and purple brightly-glowing crystals, since i was an ss at the time and one of those colors seems to correspond with plasma

whole hearth
tame crest
minor hinge
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have we try this

forest lake
whole hearth
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Idk but I'm off to bed, ping me if you figured something out bioheart
Night all

forest lake
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it is also entirely possible that elder isn't in the game yet. the answers Jao is giving now are remarkably similar to the ones he gave on the last map before the elder shrooms were implemented 😐

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or "in the game, but not accessible," like blitz and broodwatcher

stable comet
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Like the weather is rn

wintry turtle
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Fandom said it was in the game though, just that no one's discovered it

stable comet
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But they could be trolling

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Maybr

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Maybe

forest lake
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idk, i feel like "behind one of the very obviously rock walls blocking off cave entrances around the map" could count as a reason why no one's discovered it

wintry turtle
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All Ik is I saw Bazelgeuse say on legacy that it would be very grindy and some type of quest

forest lake
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suppose someone could spin up a private server and clip themselves down there and see if there's anything that doesn't exist in the overworld

mellow dawn
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Just untextured rocks

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I’ve been below lol

ionic trench
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under the map? lots of water boxes and weird rocks, but not much else

forest lake
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hum

stray notch
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so, bio is a harmless cosmetic dragon
bio is rarely seen, bc its only for KS
bio can hover
also crystals is a big debate if its connected to elder system or not
all of that together tells, plus "elder system isnt campable" means ;

bio is rare, u need one to be an elder, and it does something with crystals * might be something else, but bio is related * BUT if it is, bio would do smth with crystals, and bc it can hover and devs already mentioned "it can hover to place nests in hard places no other dragon can reach" that explains why crystals are located in wierd places, and the bio would then do smth with the dragon to give it the elder growth or whatever

final points

1- bio is related to elder system
2- bio is an important aspect of elder system
3- crystals or maybe flowers, are also an important aspect of that (or just caves)

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thats my theory, im growing one rn to try and test stuff on it, lets hope.

forest lake
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anyone tryy bio breathing on a nest? XD

mellow dawn
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Also explains be more social

stable comet
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I don't think it would require a paid dragon for a main game mechanic

vast valley
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I HEAVILY doubt that bios are anything to do with eldering, that’d be a long shot considering that it is reliant on kickstarters (which is a terrible game design choice imo if that is the case)

stable comet
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Exactly

stray notch
forest lake
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i would really hope bios aren't involved in eldering

vast valley
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Because yes, it’s based on a paid-for and currently unavailable dragon to anyone who wasn’t a kickstart (not counting nesting)

stray notch
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also dont forget !!!

wintry turtle
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Bios can't elder themselves so I wouldn't see why they'd be any part of it

stray notch
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in lots of stuff jao was asked about skin costomization and other stuff
he ben answering "i want this game to be more social, u have to rely on team work, u cant do stuff by ur self sometimes " also the fact that behemoths and big clan dragons should be fed by the clan
so, a KS player, a nested bio player is a gift from god

wintry turtle
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Istg I'm going to crawl every inch of elder forest till I find sum useful

stable comet
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LOL

tame crest
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Jao's big on social stuff and also PVP iirc.

compact kindle
stable comet
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Lol to elder you have to kill another player in pvp with bio

tame crest
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Also all of this talk of SWG reminds me I need to reinstall SWG Resto server again

stable comet
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That would be super funny

wintry turtle
stable comet
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Loool

compact kindle
wintry turtle
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Hole of death

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I am intrigued

compact kindle
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I thought it was a cave lemme go back RQ

stable comet
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Loool

wintry turtle
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Don't go in it😭

stable comet
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Let me just put my eldered all a++ dragon into this funny cave

stable comet
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Are you stuck

ionic trench
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oh that thing
I've gotten stuck in there before

compact kindle
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Risk it for the brisket

wintry turtle
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Probably a whole lot of nothing in it though aye?

compact kindle
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Nah I'm free XD

stray notch
compact kindle
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Yeah its a pit of death XD

stable comet
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Lol

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Its like a 5 foot deep bottomless pit

stray notch
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the ASD mushroom cave in river, there is an openin leads to a big cave in there

compact kindle
stray notch
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a cave at BR waterfalls

compact kindle
stray notch
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yes.

compact kindle
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I remember in legacy, there was like a figure inside the walls of ASD cave

stray notch
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naaah that was some player lmao

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they always camp in ther, used to do that

compact kindle
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Oohh

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Thats wild GooseWheeze

tame crest
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If you mean the one up on the mountain, wasn't that a sorta shrine to one of the admins or something

stray notch
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ik, i was in a big clan at river, we had found a glitch in that glitch so if someone even knows that glitch they would still get ambushed

tame crest
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Oh so something different then ok

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I wasn't really following for a bit so

compact kindle
tame crest
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Ooh right that one

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The most un-cave cave.

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More of an alcove.

wintry turtle
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It was a hollowed out portion of the cliff side

stray notch
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i was wondering

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what about waters...

compact kindle
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A den

stray notch
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what if they got something to hide..

stable comet
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ye

stray notch
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ALSO why is there an abnormal number of HUGE trees around the map?!

wintry turtle
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I looked all over the waters on the map and there wasn't anything special

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Other than one of the lakes went waaaay deep

stray notch
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would be intresting

wintry turtle
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Yes

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I did actually

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I was swimming around with NV on looking around the terrain under the waters

stable comet
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yeah nothing in them

stray notch
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hmmmmm

wintry turtle
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Couldn't see anything interesting

fading canyon
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I think we mightve mentioned it before but IF the crystals were apart of it wouldnt the colors represent the element and not the species itself? Orange - Fire, Blue-Plasma, Yellow-acid

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And pink is the friends we made along the way

compact kindle
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whats purple?

stable comet
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thunder

compact kindle
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Green?

stable comet
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lightning

wintry turtle
fading canyon
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Lightning probably XD

stable comet
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earth or plant

compact kindle
wintry turtle
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🤣

stray notch
stable comet
fading canyon
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Would assume green would be for brood since they kinda just shoot stuff from their tails

errant pecan
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sparkle Love sparkle

zenith iron
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I don't think it's crystals anymore

wintry turtle
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I honestly think green would be for asds because the Q ability gives a green hue to the mouth of the asd

tame crest
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Broody just doesn't have an element.

stable comet
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maybe

zenith iron
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I do think it could match a dragon's hoarding behavior

wintry turtle
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Poison is typically associated with green too

fading canyon
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Yeah i didnt realize there were green crystals, havent seen any myself

zenith iron
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But I don't think it fits well enough if eldering is based on behavior

wintry turtle
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I didn't either

wintry turtle
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Aaah wouldn't it suck if eldering didn't kick off until the first flat A stat dragon was born

stable comet
zenith iron
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I'd have to look for it again

fading canyon
zenith iron
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But I'm pretty sure I've seen a green crystal

wintry turtle
proper imp
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whats with everyone focusing on crystals like fr if it has nothing to do with them then we have wasted alot of time we should think of other stuff because we have thought of almost everything for crystals

wintry turtle
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But the griiiind

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I think there is only one IR on Sanc that has one A- stat

stable comet
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Way too much grind

fading canyon
zenith iron
fading canyon
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If they were apart of eldering

wintry turtle
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Yeah I don't think crystals have any use except for looking pretty

zenith iron
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They said we have the right tools

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I think they might have been speaking literally now

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Wouldn't wings and teeth count as tools?

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Or the ability to nest?

fading canyon
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Nesting, flying, Emotes, Bile

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a lot on the list

compact kindle
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Water, Food, a living dragon - Tools

wintry turtle
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I wonder if the special abilities have anything to do with anything ab eldering

fading canyon
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It would be funny if they just meant being a dragon was the tool itself

compact kindle
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Steam the tool to access the game

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Easy

zenith iron
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I think it might be achievement based like some people suggested; what a dragon views as an achievement

wintry turtle
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LOL

fading canyon
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Has anyone gone through the files? just to like check xD

zenith iron
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Wouldn't a dragon view having offspring as an achievement?

compact kindle
stable comet
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Haven't gone through them lol

fading canyon
zenith iron
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Or a IR using its fire for a certain amount of time?

wintry turtle
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I had the fire on for like 45 mins at one point, all that happened was a lot of people made references to roasting marshmallows

compact kindle
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I think thats too simple, I doubt its something you can jsut accidentaly achieve

zenith iron
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I think the tool is your dragon, and you need to follow certain behaviors that a dragon could consider an achievement

wintry turtle
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Slaying another dragon would probably be considered an achievement, but how for pve

zenith iron
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Someone mentioned they had a special text pop up after setting down a nest

stable comet
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ai dragon maybe

wintry turtle
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Did they note what the text said?

zenith iron
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"You start to feel stronger"

compact kindle
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You sense one of your nests in this area

wintry turtle
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Oh that's just the elder tick

zenith iron
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Yes

wintry turtle
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12 hour elder ticks are still a thing

stable comet
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That's what it said in legacy too

stray notch
fading canyon
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if jao said he wants the game to be more social its possible that we have to have 2 ppl to elder

zenith iron
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But as soon as the nest is put down?

wintry turtle
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That's some nice timing

zenith iron
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Timing seems unlikely

stray notch
fading canyon
stable comet
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Hmmmmm

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idk

wintry turtle
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Really?

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I didn't know that

zenith iron
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I will try to recreate what he did once I get on

wintry turtle
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I always assumed it'd be automatic

fading canyon
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everytime ive gotten my passive its been after logging out and rejoining

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it was the same in legacy

zenith iron
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I just woke up and I'm starving lol

stable comet
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It might be automatic now though

wintry turtle
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I always got it after logging in for the first time

fading canyon
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i hit the 12 hour mark while playing with no tick until i relogged

compact kindle
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If you logged out at 6 hours and came back tho youd get it without relogging at the 12 hour mark

stable comet
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Idk but I feel like it just happens whenever

fading canyon
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It was the same in legacy though, ppl Had to relog to get the tick for passive so its possible its still the same now

stray notch
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its 24hour tick.

civic niche
wintry turtle
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When I was nesting earlier around like 9 hours ago I had gotten my elder tick after playing for a few hours already

civic niche
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I don't think it was passive growth tick because it was a fresh spawn like maybe 5min adult

compact kindle
civic niche
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I don't get that tick every time though?

compact kindle
wintry turtle
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I didn't even know admins grow people

compact kindle
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I dont think its intended I think its a bug and sometimes it just happens

civic niche
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okay

civic niche
compact kindle
wintry turtle
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Ooooh alr

stable comet
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maybe admins are just randomly growing lol

wintry turtle
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Gotcha

civic niche
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I've been hopping around private servers giving skins away and that was a one time event that happened and I tried to recreate it and couldn't so it's been flagged in my memory lol

stray notch
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also guys dont forget bio element is "Unique"

dawn pelican
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on scaleworx theres for example a free grow to juvie every 24 hours (normally) atm its unlimited juvie grows until the 25th

wintry turtle
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I joined one unofficial server back when legacy was still the main and they were super mean to me ;v;

civic niche
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unofficials are very hit or miss

civic niche
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some are so chill and others it's like pulling teeth

wintry turtle
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I feeeel that

compact kindle
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Theyre a gamble for sure

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Probably why most people join official or just host a server with their friends for their friends instead of risking it

wintry turtle
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Funny thing is I'm still in their discord inactive af and they haven't noticed lol

stable comet
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LOL

civic niche
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Yeah unless they're a large named server, I won't play on them. I don't want to wake up one day and see all my progress wiped because they took it down lol Especially with the in depth breeding we have now

wintry turtle
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Ooh yeah I do all the main breeding on officials cause of that

civic niche
stable comet
wintry turtle
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I can only trust my own private server cause ik I wouldn't do people like that

stable comet
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Looool

civic niche
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Has anyone seen anything sus with FS heat vision?

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do the crystals look different?

compact kindle
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Nope

wintry turtle
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I haven't got an fs yet ;v;

civic niche
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i'm growing one now

stable comet
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;-;

wintry turtle
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I'm clutching the IR pop rn 😭💪

stray notch
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what if eldering is chilling in caves, so the power of crystals gets trasferred to you?!

compact kindle
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Its been tried

fading canyon
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shhhh we'll anger the elders if we keep talking about the crystals

wintry turtle
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I think people tried afk-ing caves and nothing really happened

compact kindle
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Distant Elder Rage Noises

fading canyon
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NO PLS IVE BEEN GOOD

tame crest
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I'm gonna go to Ilum and harvest all of those kyber crystals in a minute rage

stray notch
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hold on maybe logging in caves so the daily tick thing increaes?!

compact kindle
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Chilling, Nesting, Logging out with crystals its all been done

stray notch
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anyone knows how logging off in caves of Path of Titans work>

civic niche
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yeah i was on an IR because I got nested. Then was going to switch to SS because it be zooming. But then I was talking to hubby about starwars and he gave me an idea about "sensing" the force so it made me think of heat vision

stray notch
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daaamn..

stable comet
wintry turtle
tame crest
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Bring your cold weather gear, its a bit nippy.

wintry turtle
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Bet

stable comet
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Can i come too

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I'll bring the cold weather carcass

wintry turtle
stable comet
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Maybe with NV

wintry turtle
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Like if there's a specific area, or a thing we have to be in the vicinity of

civic niche
compact kindle
civic niche
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not if it's all around the map

wintry turtle
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Idkkk, it can be set up in a way that it's not

civic niche
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w/e "it" may be

compact kindle
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Information on eldering thats been gathered so far is basically;
(repost so it doesnt get lost)

  • Should be solo-able (not officially confirmed)

  • Is not campable

  • Doesnt seem to involve crystals Ive been watching thischat for a few days everthing has been done with them.

  • Jao likes starwars - but there is nothing that has stated it is related to his insperation of the series

  • Jao loves references

  • May be different per species

  • Likely same method across server type / This deletes the idea that its kill based

  • Likely "grindy"

fading canyon
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Ok i think we are looking at campable the wrong way

stable comet
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I feel like maybe it's something NV related

fading canyon
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I think theyre talking about in a way like with the shrooms, we had to tell ppl when we were hunting and some ppl would just chill on the spawns and take them

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thats campable

compact kindle
wintry turtle
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When I think campable is what players were doing with the shrooms on legacy

stable comet
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Ir have nv

compact kindle
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Yeah holding the area, afking it to popup

wintry turtle
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Yee

fading canyon
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If its just a spot that everyone can grow and elder in without worry about others taking that thing

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is diffferent

civic niche
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noc can you pin it?

stable comet
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Maybe the sensing part involves our assassins creed Night vision

compact kindle
tame crest
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Would need a discord mod for pins

wintry turtle
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It doesn't have to be a thing that's taken or used by anyone though, it could just be a thing we need to discover. Cause I imagine there will be multiple like, stages or something since it's supposed to be grindy

compact kindle
fading canyon
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But thats why we said something about having multiple spots

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that makes it less campable for the pvp servers

stray notch
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Information on eldering thats been gathered so far is basically;
(repost so it doesnt get lost)

Should be solo-able (not officially confirmed)
Is not campable
Doesnt seem to involve crystals Ive been watching thischat for a few days everthing has been done with them.
Jao likes starwars - but there is nothing that has stated it is related to his insperation of the series
Jao loves references

May be different per species
Likely same method across server type / This deletes the idea that its kill based
Likely "grindy"

jao qoute : you have to REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED then obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED
(seems unhelpful but its something)

compact kindle
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Youd be surprsied how well an Alpha clan can hold a majority of the map

wintry turtle
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I wonder if there are little spots around the map that we're meant to discover just by exploring and getting lost

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Like a quest

compact kindle
stable comet
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Real quote

tame crest
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It was something he said.

stray notch
compact kindle
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Lets play a game of hangman

stray notch
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lettirally

wintry turtle
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Lol when I ran into SuperRhino earlier, he literally said "To elder, you have to [REDACTED]"

stable comet
#

Yeah

compact kindle
#

D: It disapeared

wintry turtle
#

Should've grabbed an ss, now I'm mad I didn't

rapid kraken
#

The daily tick gives 1.8 growth for elder right?

civic niche
#

does anyone have the quote about the SWG? I still don't know if he was trolling or there was a legit relation

wintry turtle
#

What was the quote

stable comet
wintry turtle
#

Or you were asking if anyone had it

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Mb

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I'm tired and blind rn😭

civic niche
#

Im asking lol

tame crest
#

It wasn't something written it was spoken.

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So a 1 to 1 recollection won't be possible.

compact kindle
#

It wasnt a quote, it was a story

stable comet
civic niche
#

do you know what exactly was said?

compact kindle
#

Word for word? No, Soemthing about people spoilering the jedi thing

dawn pelican
stable comet
compact kindle
#

and thats why they didnt want to give hints or outright say it, lost its Sparkles Spazzaz Sparkles

stable comet
#

Loool

tame crest
#

With the old way of getting Jedi requiring a series of things to do that you'd have to figure out on your own over a very long time but since the internet is the internet people would write guides, and also the dreaded NGE update let everyone Jedi anyway.

rapid kraken
#

Or is the growth amount for elder random that you get with the daily tick?

fading canyon
#

its 0.9 for IR (On official servers)

wintry turtle
#

^

stable comet
#

ye

compact kindle
#

If the server is 1.5 or 2x itll be more per tick tho

fading canyon
#

^^^

rapid kraken
#

Nonetheless, server is 2x growth, it gaves me 1.8 growth into elder via tick (Inferno Ravager) but now, I suddenly got 3.6 growth into elder

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I went into the cave at arch before having gotten that second tick idk

fading canyon
#

Yup that would be about right for passive ticks

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Or how long was it when you got your second tick?

rapid kraken
#

definitely not 24 hours after, I have been playing the whole time after logging in and gotten that first tick

fading canyon
#

When did they change the 12hour passive to 24?

compact kindle
#

Its still 12

fading canyon
#

xD i was about to say

rapid kraken
#

I mean that lol I am watching a vid got distracted xD

compact kindle
#

Were you admin grown?

rapid kraken
#

But I had gotten that first tick when I logged in, and it hasn't been even 2 hours from when that second tick came that's why I am so confused

rapid kraken
compact kindle
#

If all you did was enter the Arch cave Iits likely just passive

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Everyones tried a bunch of tihngs in that place and got nothing from it

fading canyon
#

The next question is what did you do before you entered arch?

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The issue being that actually getting the elder tick can take like 30 secs to actually show up

rapid kraken
#

Flew around, nothing special, unless it adds up to the theory of flying/traveling X amount

fading canyon
#

Is it possible that 2x also shortens the time for passive elder ticks too?

#

Sounds like its just a passive tick

compact kindle
#

I debunked that on the IR already, flying for hours

last minnow
#

but what if it has to be above the clouds

fading canyon
#

tried that

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its not

last minnow
#

hm

compact kindle
#

Thats where I take all my screenshots GooseWheeze

fading canyon
#

flew from top of snowy mountain across the map above the clouds until my stam and secondwind ran out

last minnow
#

ok so that narrows it down, its on the ground

oak goblet
#

are we certain its the same for every dragon/drake tho?

last minnow
#

no lol

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if it was a flying thing, it wouldnt be for asd

#

bios cant be elder so dont use those

compact kindle
#

I jsut spent the last few hours doing circles over the map with SS so its not for that dragon either

last minnow
#

but what if its in the map somewhere, not over it

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it could be covered by trees, or a rock

#

so flying over it, you could fly right past it

compact kindle
#

Yeah that was my theory today, Ive been scoping every cavey like spot, in and around rocks and formations

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Water sources aswell

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Some portions of forests but with the lack of food its hard to stay in the woods, given the size of them

civic niche
#

everyone should try to get a replay recording thing set up so they can just hit a button and get the last 30s - a few min and see what they did

compact kindle
#

Ive been on 7 hours just sweeping the map for most of it

#

Im still sitting on 0.0 elder hammycry

last minnow
hollow quarry
#

all my dragons I never got nested, I grew an SS to adult, died, and I suddenly had a mela.

last minnow
compact kindle
fresh marsh
#

i have an asd at like 8% elder, ill run around the map on that for a bit

civic niche
hollow quarry
#

listen

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im catching up

oak goblet
#

the idea of it being something thats "hidden" from the air sounds like something tbh. I think that if its an actual thing we need to interact with in some way, its gonna either be in a hidden hard to find place or a thing that doesnt stand out imo

hollow quarry
#

😭

civic niche
wintry turtle
last minnow
compact kindle
#

I think its a task personally, something you do in game that doesnt involve a specific item or place

civic niche
wintry turtle
#

I used to think it had to do with the eventual death worms that will be added, like killing one would grant you elder points, but that's so far off in updates it can't be it

fresh marsh
#

where should i take my 10% elder asd first?

last minnow
#

everyone start offering bugs at any cave they go to with crystals and 1 call 3 times (this theory comes from the sir bacon memorial's mechanics) it could be reused

wintry turtle
#

I'm genuinely curious if they repurposed SirBacon

stable comet
#

Maybe we need to almost die but not to elder

#

Like almost starving in a certain area

urban mantle
#

what if we need to go to sir bacons favorite place and do something specific

last minnow
#

tried, it doesnt exist

civic niche
urban mantle
#

maybe just the area?

last minnow
#

sir bacon isnt on the mountain anymore

#

tried that too

wintry turtle
#

If anything, he'd be an NPC we'd have to locate somehow

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Like the special cave in the mountains on legacy

proper imp
stable comet
#

Maybe they moved the cave

wintry turtle
#

He was a member of staff that passed away

compact kindle
#

Theres no NPC in any of the caves

civic niche
compact kindle
#

Any of the currently accessible caves anyways

forest lake
#

.>
<.<

...anyone notice that the bio flowers close at night?

last minnow
#

imma set up my clipping software again just in case i somehow miss it

#

im rather blind

wintry turtle
last minnow
fresh marsh
civic niche
forest lake
#

no, no

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the lower flowers close when you eat them. the top 3 I saw close at night

wintry turtle
#

I did too, took a long break between 2020 and 2022

forest lake
#

or, at least, i saw them open in the morning

stable comet
#

I think someone said before that they were staff

last minnow
civic niche
proper imp
civic niche
#

I just remember when he was a KSer, cool dude. Funny

last minnow
#

they ended up being staff here

civic niche
wintry turtle
#

Maaaan, I wish they did cause I want my pet bug back

proper imp
#

they should add his name engraved into the rock on bigrock

last minnow
#

with that being said, the mechanics for it tho i feel could have been redone

wintry turtle
#

So many fond memories dancing with my little bacon

stable comet
#

Theee littttleeee bugggg

#

Look how they massacred my boy

civic niche
#

im gonna make a KB macro for eating and drinking. QoL should just make it a toggle lol

wintry turtle
#

Yes

#

Holding e for 5 minutes while casually drowning my dragon for a drink

civic niche
#

right?

#

I could be alt-tabbed for all that xD

wintry turtle
#

FRRR

stable comet
#

Loool

forest lake
#

where was bacon's memorial?

last minnow
forest lake
#

ahh

crisp narwhal
#

Between the two snowy peaks

wintry turtle
#

Gone gone?

stable comet
#

It's not in legacy now?

civic niche
#

I heard it was staying in legacy. I haven't been back on legacy to confirm

last minnow
#

its still in legacy, it never got updated

rapid kraken
low pond
last minnow
#

2x might mess with the daily elder ticks

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so we cant go off of that

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i dont think anything happened to me when i was there

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ill check it out again rq

languid spoke
#

2x growth doubles the elder tick

last minnow
#

right

#

which is why we cant go off of that

last minnow
#

nothing happened

#

my theory did nothing when i tried it

vestal rose
#

we figure anything new out?

urban mantle
#

well tried the bug mechanic nothing happened

#

lmao

#

sir bacons method doesnt work

fair turret
#

Mating random trees doesn't work either, can confirm

hollow quarry
#

...

zenith iron
#

Was there a specific roar you used too?

#

and a specific spot the nest was in?

ancient obsidian
#

eh, i just get elder ticks over time :/

last minnow
#

tried flying through the fallen tree, almost ended in my demise dont do it

ancient obsidian
#

like ik someone who has already like 5% or so on one dragon, would have to ask again

north creek
vast valley
#

...

fair turret
#

I've been passing pinecones for three hours send a doctor

last minnow
#

anyone have any...useful info

fair turret
#

no.

last minnow
#

hm

livid chasm
#

any one looked into the philipino's theory ?

last minnow
#

no, whats that?

fair turret
#

Whuzzat

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the bugs?

last minnow
#

think someone said that didnt work

#

my theory with the bugs x 1 calling 3 times offering them to crystals didnt work either

proper imp
vestal rose
last minnow
#

i tested it twice, nothing happened

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the 2nd time i hit the tree

civic niche
last minnow
#

did it say you feel stronger or any other prompt?

civic niche
zenith iron
#

I'm trying to think of behaviors dragons would do

livid chasm
#

philipino dude's said it's in the waters

fair turret
#

That'd suck

#

I can't swim

last minnow
#

if it is, theres no real way to swim down

#

but asds thing could be something to do with getting to hard to reach spots

wintry turtle
#

I didn't see anything in the waters when I was swimming around with NV on

urban mantle
#

i think that guy was a troll

zenith iron
#

If we take what they said about shrooms not being a dragon-like behavior, and the dragon itself being the tool we need

fair turret
#

to be fair

urban mantle
#

was he on a faster grow server?

fair turret
#

lots of predators ingest toxins for stuff

urban mantle
#

also was he on since day one?

zenith iron
#

What could be taken as a behavior a progressing adult dragon would do?

low pond
#

at the big tree you can drink water XD at the root

zenith iron
#

A list of things that can take time

last minnow
#

guys im gonna swim across the lake

fair turret
#

fight for territory, patrol territory, challenge elders for their territory, get ran out of territory

last minnow
#

longways

wintry turtle
last minnow
#

and see if that does something

#

is there a drowning risk

zenith iron
wintry turtle
#

We've been doing all that though

zenith iron
#

those could be definite PVE things

stable comet
#

Well have to see if they implement ai

wintry turtle
#

Truuuust me there's no shortage of nests on Sanc lool

last minnow
#

the bugs are ai in a way

stable comet
#

Looool fr

#

I mean dragons

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Or anything other than the bugs

zenith iron
#

I just think that it can't be a location or resource anymore

urban mantle
#

well i know flying dragons loved to fly through the small gap in arch rock on legacy

last minnow
#

can dragons drown? i wanan see if i get a tick from swimming across the entire lake longways

stable comet
#

Don't think so

stable comet
#

If you do though let us know

wintry turtle
#

One of my baby bios tested out drowning and didn't succeed

stable comet
#

LOL

last minnow
#

alr then

zenith iron
#

What if it's a list of behaviors and THEN a location?

stable comet
#

What if it's

fresh marsh
#

could also need to get to a certain % through time ticks, then do something

zenith iron
#

You have to hunt, breed, and explore, then obviously have to go to * to get Elder

stable comet
#

You have melanistic then go to here to get a quest

oak goblet
#

we gotta take into account that this qoute from Jao might just be a red herring aswell tho

proper imp
wintry turtle
#

It's pretty much what he said fr

#

It would show as [REDACTED]

proper imp
#

did he say it was true or not tho

zenith iron
wintry turtle
#

Well he's said it at least twice now

proper imp
stable comet
#

Just copy paste the word redacted

zenith iron
#

It WOULD line up with his older comment about why he hated the shroom method

wintry turtle
#

He's said it in that format twice

stable comet
#

Yeah

wintry turtle
#

Pretty much word for word

zenith iron
#

He hated it because it wasn't a dragon-like behavior

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Which I do agree with

stable comet
#

It's like he has a copy paste of it ready for everyone lol

wintry turtle
#

I wish I grabbed a screenshot >:I

stable comet
#

I knowwww

zenith iron
#

I am 99% sure it has nothing to do with crystals or bugs anymore

tardy fossil
#

Tbh it wouldn't have surprised me if he never put a system in, just kept the passive and then made us believe we had to breed & survive for eldering, when really it is just a passive

stable comet
#

Maybe it's in the game just turned off

#

Like weather

urban mantle
#

wonder if the elder system is even in the game right now

stable comet
#

It's in the game

wintry turtle
#

According to Fandom, it's in the game

stable comet
#

Might just be off

zenith iron
#

It is because you get ticks on it

#

I'm at 1.4% rn myself on my IR

urban mantle
#

and all this time we have all been running around like chickens with there heads cut off

tardy fossil
#

I think eldering is in the game, but only as passive. We all know he hasn't kept to his word before

wintry turtle
#

Idk cause I feel like that'd tick a lot of players off

urban mantle
#

oof more people about to be pissed off

wintry turtle
#

LOL

#

We had the same thought

last minnow
stable comet
#

Yeah lol

urban mantle
#

if its truly not in at the moment

final flax
last minnow
#

and its not by passive elder ticks

civic niche
#

Jao is a troll so maybe lol

stable comet
#

LOL

urban mantle
#

yup

tardy fossil
#

I don't think he cares when he has the mods to delete comments

zenith iron
wintry turtle
final flax
#

ty ty

last minnow
#

oh yea and swimming across the entire lake did nothing

zenith iron
#

Just got my passive tick after logging on

languid spoke
#

i mean, if it's not implemented yet what's the worse that's happened? we spent time trying things and thinking really hard 😂

stable comet
#

I think it's something else

urban mantle
#

not telling us could just be another way of saying we dont have taht ready yet

#

\

last minnow
#

its already implimented, the mods even said its in

wintry turtle
#

It'd make sense on why they're keeping it so hush hush

stable comet
#

Maybe

last minnow
#

and why would this channel be here if it wasnt real

fair turret
#

Jao's quote: You have * * * then obviously have to go to * to get *... So it kind of sounds like you have to go to 2 separate places and do 2 separate things

zenith iron
#

Okaaaaay

final flax
#

my bet is, you need to get to 100% on the passive eldering and THEN do something to "evolve" so to speak. like "okay your at 100% now you go do X and you hit elder"

last minnow
wintry turtle
#

I would scream

stable comet
#

Sane

#

Same

stable comet
#

Lol

final flax
#

what if its just hit 100% then? has that been done?

fair turret
#

I'm not waiting 2 months for slightly better stats and the ability to see my passives

#

There's gotta be a thingy

#

for the thingy

#

to become the thingy

stable comet
#

I mean everyone is talking ab the star wars thing the only thing similar to that would be doing the mela quest

last minnow
#

guys its not passive ticks, theres another way that was already confirmed

wintry turtle
#

Not yet, it'd take at least 50 days to passive elder with ticks

oak goblet
#

could it be something with nightvision? like... something you can only see with that active? just a thought

civic niche
#

I mean it could be as simple as "You have to grow to adult then obviously..."

stable comet
#

Artificial play time extender LOL

#

jk

last minnow
final flax
fresh marsh
fair turret
#

Jao's quote: You have to grow to adult then obviously have to go to * to get elder

wintry turtle
#

Where's qna?

last minnow
#

^

fair turret
#

that

last minnow
#

the qna was in the discord

final flax
#

oh wait thats the quote?

wintry turtle
fair turret
#

is my interpretation

final flax
#

oh

fair turret
#

Jao's quote: You have * * * then obviously have to go to * to get *

civic niche
#

*jao qoute : you have to REDACTED REDACTED REDACTED then obviously have to go to REDACTED to get REDACTED *

fair turret
#

You have to grow to adult then obviously have to go to * to get elder

fresh marsh
#

And gets like 2% a passive tick

tame crest
#

you go to <a location> to get your Jedi robes

fresh marsh
#

Asd*

tardy fossil
#

I'm taking it as this:
How many times has this update been delayed? How many times has there been an uproar with the fairness for kickstarters and patreons? How many times have comments just stating their opinion been deleted because him and the mods disagreed?

I will keep trying theories and all that, but I don't have hope that a system is actually in place, and his quote isn't useful (right now?)

last minnow
final flax
fair turret
#

I've tried the mountains so those are out

subtle orchid
#

i wouldnt be surprised if BLQ/Life Expectancy was a part of it cause didnt he say something about how be wanted those to matter?

final flax
#

flight isnt a requirement UNLESS its species specific* (the locatio nchanging per species)

zenith iron
#

Okay, I'll list off the notable places I've seen then

fresh marsh
#

I dont think it's in yet either, but I dont have anything better to do

last minnow
#

thats why i said you cant be above the trees to see it, you have to be on the ground

fair turret
#

So... Perhaps the forest

stable comet
#

Atp we've done everything

civic niche
urban mantle
#

maybe just make the eldering another growth stage that takes several hours of in game time like 10 or 15 or something to get to instead of all the crazy stuff they are doing maybe save the crazy stuff for if they are actually going to bring in being able to become ancient dragons i remember that video showing the giant dragons

last minnow
fair turret
#

You have to grow to adult then obviously have to go to REDACTED to get elder

last minnow
#

right

tardy fossil
#

I simply don't believe what he says to hold much value.

last minnow
#

so there IS a location involved, but the question is where it is

fresh marsh
zenith iron
#

Elder forest has a MASSIVE amount of caves, to the SW is 2 seeming impact craters, there is the gorge, throne rock, the big tri cross rock, the giant tree on the mountain, BR, and the moors to the SW and NW

civic niche
tardy fossil
fair turret
#

HMMMM

zenith iron
fair turret
#

I SHALL MATE WITH THE TREES THERE

civic niche
last minnow
#

elder forest might actually have some use

turbid copper
#

I honestly think it must be a cave that is hard to find, and must be something in that cave

zenith iron
#

There's a ton of stuff in Elder forest

fair turret
#

I'm en route there as we speak

last minnow
#

elder forest might give us a lead on what to do, its in the name

zenith iron
#

Enough I've found a LOT, but I doubt I found it all

last minnow
#

same

#

omw there

fresh marsh
#

I'll keep collecting passive tuckd and wandering on my asd in case you need to get to a certain % for the next step

#

Ticks*

real linden
#

Anyone got cords to elder forest?

zenith iron
#

AI spawns insanely quick, tons of shrooms, lots of caves, many water sources

minor hinge
#

close one i kown to Ef is 6S 688W

zenith iron
#

It's the best place to hide something on the map

turbid copper
#

Maybe we have to spend more time on the ground than in the air

final flax
#

mind you wasnt it also confirmed its not a camp-able thing?

last minnow
#

im thinking its on the ground bc asds have to do something

fresh marsh
#

There's absolutely no food in the entire corner of the map nu ravine, could be to keep people from looking to hard there?

#

By*

last minnow
#

yea that was confirmed that its not campable

#

so its something that can be done solo

final flax
#

it could be species specific too! asd's "theoretical location" could be different from a shadow scales eldering spot

zenith iron
#

290 S 50 W

last minnow
real linden
#

Perhaps its client side so you can only see it yourself so noncampable

zenith iron
#

where would FS and IR go tho?

final flax
#

because isnt there also potential for a fully aquatic dragon? or is the tidal guy gonna get to go on land?

zenith iron
#

FS and IR would need something like a Volcano

final flax
#

im thinking a location might not be the right idea but thats jsut me

#

mostly because the map isnt finished (that im aware of)

#

my bet is its get to 100%, or get to 100% and then do X

compact kindle
final flax
#

for how rare elder is meant to be, i wouldnt put it past them to want you to get to 100% on the percentage thing

urban mantle
#

hmmmmmm someones gonna test that now that you mention it

final flax
#

and if 100% doesnt do it, then we knwo for sure its 100% and then do XYZ etc etc

#

know*

#

that or the percentage increasing is just a bug

last minnow
final flax
#

LUL what if its "you have to get to 100% and then die"

#

reincarnate yourself

#

that'd be funny

real linden
#

Whats the growth percent in stats for only one passive tick

fresh marsh
#

for asd about 2%

#

IR is like .9%

real linden
#

....

#

how do I have 1.4%

last minnow
#

random growth ticks give anywhere from 1-3%

#

dont know if it was changed

turbid copper
#

And I have 2.7 on mine

real linden
fresh marsh
#

i did say about and like

keen basin
#

so they kicked out the guy that figured out the elder tics and was gonna record for us

turbid copper
#

No one kicked anyone

#

He left

keen basin
#

did he? we are talking to him and he said he was kicked unless thats not true

turbid copper
#

Nah, he left

compact kindle
#

Its not, the mods confirmed it

keen basin
#

sus

fading canyon
#

No it was only SMaug who was cheating

compact kindle
#

^

zenith iron
#

Maybe because he kept getting spammed with questions?

fading canyon
#

Eon more than liekly left

zenith iron
#

That'd make me leave tbf

oak goblet
#

could just be a person thats trying to wind us up honestly "i know the truth!" vanishes

keen basin
#

could be

turbid copper
#

Or trolling

last minnow
#

right, cant trust what random people like that say

oak goblet
#

exactly

last minnow
#

and yay im stuck in the ravine 😭

keen basin
#

let me get his last clue we got in dms, one sec

final flax
#

whos clue?

last minnow
#

well theres nothing here incase anyone was wondering

final flax
#

yeah anyone new coming in: we still have nothing.

dry mauve
#

Well firstly what were the clues provided.

civic niche
#

If you're talking to him why isn't he just giving you a vid like he said instead of clues?

dry mauve
#

We need to outline though first

digital isle
compact kindle
oak goblet
keen basin
#

''at night you spawn pearls in the forest, taste here in the game'' translated ofc

fresh marsh
#

i assumed we were talking about official

#

to keep a baseline

compact kindle
keen basin
#

i suspect pearls is not actually pearls but something else butchered by translator

#

cause ya pearls arent in game, and are not tied to night time

civic niche
#

or maybe he's trolling lol

keen basin
#

could be

compact kindle
#

He lost credibility for me when he said he was chatting with Jao in DMs

final flax
#

personally im not trusting anything aside from what mods/devs say.

keen basin
#

tbh that wouldnt surprise me, that jao hopped in his dms and was telling him not to tell anyone

#

legit wouldnt surprise me at all

compact kindle
fading canyon
#

yeah but why would he msg one specific person

#

and not crow

compact kindle
#

I am not going back out there GooseWheeze

final flax
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still, we shouldnt theorycraft based on one random person right?

civic niche
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It would me. I don't think he cares how fast we find it. We found elder with the shrooms pretty fast

keen basin
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but we gotta investigate everything at this point

final flax
civic niche
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He said he'd start dropping hints if we don't find it fast enough so why would he do that and then dm some rando telling him to stfu? Makes no sense imo

compact kindle
civic niche
final flax
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then*

compact kindle
final flax
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we can at least confirm hthat?

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okay. thats one thing confirmed then

keen basin
compact kindle
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It absolutely does work

fresh marsh
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im at 10% passive for sure works

civic niche
final flax
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gratz guys we confirmed 1 way to get elder.

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thats better than nothing

zenith iron
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Where did the hint I remember seeing "Beyond our borders, beyond our mountains" come from

cold crest
# proper imp who is sir bacon

SirBacon was a great friend and Senior Admin for DoD. He unfortunately passed away last summer. As a wonderful tribute, the dev team added his dragon into the game in his favourite spot.

Players could go and talk to his NPC, listen to the music playing, and even get a thornback crawler pet bioheart

compact kindle
keen basin
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well the border smashes my face in every time i try to go beyond it sooooooo

final flax
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listen im just being realistic here, gotta make sure for people who come in they know you cna actually get elder. as in there is a way that works

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it just takes a while

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its a lot better than not being able to elder at all right?

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NODDERS id rather have a method confirmed that works than nothing

zenith iron
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we also got a hint about something in the waters

final flax
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something in the waters might just be the new dragon right? or is this elder specific hint

civic niche
proper imp
zenith iron
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Theres the massive lake to the SW past the moors

dreamy acorn
compact kindle
keen basin
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it was on a mountain and not there anymore

zenith iron
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Just beside the border

proper imp
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i didnt know the game had pets

keen basin
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had

compact kindle
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LEgacy Only

final flax
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ah it was a legacy thing then

keen basin
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ye

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was removed

vestal rose
cold crest
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I believe you can still find him on legacy

proper imp
compact kindle
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He is still on legacy CubuWiggle

cold crest
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Staff are also in the dark when it comes to the eldering system

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So it's a surprise for us too

fading canyon
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I guess that makes sense

proper imp
minor hinge
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i kown it not in ice cave it not there in 1.0 i look over it

dry mauve
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I just got music

noble crown
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maybe traveling x number of meters or visiting x number of landmarks for helping get elder?

dry mauve
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from flying above the clouds during night time into the auroras

half hound
dry mauve
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Is it?

turbid copper
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Yes

dry mauve
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cause my music is turned off

turbid copper
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You get the music in legacy too, when you fly high

vestal rose
dry mauve
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You feel stronger is not normal though

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.... SOOOOOO

last minnow
sour sonnet
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you got a tic

last minnow
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you get those every 12 hours

dry mauve
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Idk ive been on this one for an hr and its been full adult so

turbid copper
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It’s a tick

last minnow
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yea normal elder tick

fresh marsh
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what % was the tick?

sour sonnet
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and what dragon are you>?

dry mauve
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IR

sour sonnet
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how much did u get?

dry mauve
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1 elder tick is usually 1% im 2% rn so it could be something linked

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Unless im stupid and didnt see my frist tick last night

turbid copper
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I’m 2.7 on my IR

sour sonnet
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odd

turbid copper
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And I didn’t see mine either

sour sonnet
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its .9 got a normal elder tick

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and 1 for what u did mazy

fresh marsh
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im pretty sure ir gets .9% per tick

zenith iron
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for 1,5x it's 1.4%

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base is .9%

fresh marsh
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does official server have 1.5x?

turbid copper
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No

last minnow
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1.0x

eager abyss
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pro tip... do not dive full speed into crater lake it is uh. very deep

civic niche
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lol you know you can see through the water with NV?

eager abyss
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i can? o.o

civic niche
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mmhmm

eager abyss
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oh hecking cool

zenith iron
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thats what ive been doing