New Elder System

[reef ether]

I just seen them typing

[stray notch]

im so annoyed and confused, HOLD ON

[weak sequoia]

i just want a hint or two

[high fog]

hello, the develper said me to not tell more

oh hi!

[weak sequoia]

are you frigging kidding me?

[stray notch]

you have to (kill)(every)(species) then obviously have to go to (got no clue) to get (ah also idk)

[reef ether]

thats some bull

[reef ether]

which dev

[high fog]

the uhj gao?

[brave cobalt]

jao?

[reef ether]

ur telling me the lead guy on dod dm u and said hey dont tell anyone crap?

[high fog]

yes yes !

[stray notch]

🧢

[high fog]

ako raman sa tana tao naka kuha pag unsa

[modest quarry]

@cold copper

[stray notch]

why is bro starting to talk some african tribe language?

[short pine]

To me Jao seems more likely to just jokingly misdirect if we were on it too soon, Cause confusion, Definitely not ban or silence people on the right track
The 'finding out' and solving a riddle is encouraged

[reef ether]

u arent the only one that does there are several that do

[stray notch]

also, WHAT COULD BE the new system it makes no sense! WHAT ACTIVITY IS IN THIS GAME (other than what we know) ?!?

[reef ether]

if thats true then why was someone who tried helping gone from the discord?

[stray notch]

aye ur gonna follow them ig...

[bleak python]

Werent they using esp and posted a screenshot of it lol

[high fog]

ang 'admin' raman nag ingon nako ayaw sulti, ingon siya

[short pine]

There are many people previously that tried 'helping' before with Mela and Elder in Legacy that were using cheats, Digging tthrough save files, And spreading misinformation that was harmful to the diacovery

[cold copper]

Ill pay you 600 bucks to tell anyway. Just to make Jao mad LOL

[modest quarry]

do it

[high fog]

im sorry, i dont understand really

[stray notch]

also lucy, i can bet 100 bucks NO ONE would try to help, if someone is trying to that means they are cheating to get it

[reef ether]

well that just shows they are just being kinda mean

[short pine]

Jao had instead given hints with Mela and tried to be mischeviously helpful
Think of it like someone who enjoys riddles too much

[topaz kite]

why do we have a chat but not aloud to use the chat for its intended purpose ...........

[modest quarry]

right?

this channel is supposed to be for figuring it out, but its pretty hard to figure it out if the answer just gets silenced

[short pine]

Like 'amused about how absolutely confused everyone is' with riddles, Not 'I will ban you and silence you for figurong thinga out fast'
These are given so people can brainstorm and discover
He wants a mystery for people to unravel and will give it away if we don't get it, But wants us to have a chance to get it fjrst

[cold copper]

Hatagan tika ug $600 para lang masuko si Jao

[bleak python]

pero pwede ba nimo ipakita?

[reef ether]

thats what im saying

[weak sequoia]

im sick of the devs getting inolved in what the players do if we arent using hacks or cheats just let us know, nobody cares about some little riddle

[reef ether]

like as jao said he wants this game for us to need eachother

[frank tendon]

tell me how to elder

[bleak python]

bc it just released and they dont want people to have it 4 days after release idk

[reef ether]

but when we try they just get told to not help or they dissapear

[modest quarry]

then why even add the system?

[short pine]

I do not think that person knows how to Elder, And I do not think the people who were removed were following all the rules

[frank tendon]

@Ξ Ο Π

he gon?

[reef ether]

SEEEE

[frank tendon]

I can't @

[reef ether]

WHAT I MEAN

[zealous urchin]

eon got removed

thats crazy

[bleak python]

maybe they want you to have it OVER TIME and not at the BEGINNING

[short pine]

They are right there, They are not removed

[frank tendon]

look at their profile they not in server

[reef ether]

i clicked on them they arent in server

[bleak python]

No they're gone

[short pine]

Oh no, They did, Huh

[modest quarry]

yep looks like eon was removed wth

[zealous urchin]

hes gone

[topaz kite]

did u seriously kick him?!?!?!?!!?

[zealous urchin]

Thats a poor assumption

[bleak python]

additionally he could have just blocked everyone in this chat who's talking

[zealous urchin]

With no proof or facts that all 3 were cheating

[bleak python]

only one person was confirmed to be

with their esp screenshot

[weak sequoia]

key word one

[frank tendon]

makes sense

[zealous urchin]

Why was he told specifically by an admin or dev not to divulge the secret to getting elder?

[bleak python]

im going to go off of what he said originally and return to searching the waters near craters.

for all we know he was a hidden dev who was leaking and got caught and removed

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[reef ether]

dont put what u find in here cause it just gets u kicked

[cedar obsidian]

have we figured out how to elder?

[eager abyss]

There's a solid chance the whole thing was just people messing with us the whole time

[short pine]

Guys, I think you need to take a moment and consider things from a different prospective

Cheaters are being caught and removed
People have literally never been moved for figuring out actual progress on Mela and Elder in the last
People have recently been incredibly upset with the devs and the game and making people believe they cannot share and discover ia a good way to make others upset

Please stop and take a moment, Because in my entire time in this server there has never been someone using legitimate means and followong the rules removed for using these channels for their use

[eager abyss]

Smaug just straight up cheating was funny tho

[frank tendon]

no

[stray notch]

chil guys, he got kicked for spreading misinformation
that guy FOR SURE havent gotten a DM from jao saying PLEASE THIS IS ELDER SYSTEM BUT DONT TELL PPL

nah.

[reef ether]

i agree on him doing that but crow was actually trying to help us and figure out

[frank tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/conspiracy-theory-explaining-gif-12901943281765003956

[zealous urchin]

An admin or dev shouldve said something then instead of silently banning him, thats sus af

[reef ether]

and for that matter they were only like 20%

[high wagon]

i'd like you guys to stop assuming they got kicked please.
No one that im aware of has kicked them from server

[eager abyss]

That too yall lol

[frank tendon]

no

[eager abyss]

They could've been trolling and left

[frank tendon]

sus

[fading canyon]

Its possible some of these ppl just left

[weak sequoia]

are we rlly gonna trust jinx rn

[frank tendon]

conspiracy

[fading canyon]

Smaug was the only one with cheats in his ss

[weak sequoia]

Crow's ss only had something you can get to ingame that needs to be fixed

[reef ether]

im sorry just weired out and frustrated

[high wagon]

and that situation is being handled

[frank tendon]

how do u elder

[short pine]

People are desperate enough for answers that someone was offering 600 for them and you don't see how people might use that to make poeple upset?

[weak sequoia]

supposedly the admins would know or at least some do

[remote sparrow]

Hi

[cold copper]

To make Jao mad yes

[lost totem]

From everything I've heard off the admins, only the dev team actually know. And even then, only like 2 of the devs know

[weak sequoia]

the admins not the mods

[stray notch]

jinx, pearls are supported rn in game? are they possible to get by any chance?

[short pine]

And to make jao mad and to hurt jao, Making rhe community more mad is the best way
Like making people feel like they can't talk here for its use

[high wagon]

only cosmetic pearls like the jellyfish

[modest quarry]

i just dont like that devs are silencing any answers that we get

[eager abyss]

They aren't

[short pine]

They would be silencing fake answers or cheats, They never silenced real ones before

[fading canyon]

I dont think the devs are doing that

Its entirely possible EON just left

[frank tendon]

I like the conspiracy way more

[stray notch]

great
hear me out guys. eldering is used by some mysterious pearl u get someway

[fading canyon]

Same with crow

[stray notch]

trust me

it is a pearl

[eager abyss]

These people are likely trolling. Because they can

[short pine]

Fake ones like 'I have the answers give me money' and exploits

[modest quarry]

they did. they legit just told eon that he couldnt share the answer that he had. why tell him to stop if he didnt have the right answer?

[bleak python]

This. Probably left and blocked people to stop his temptation to share the details.

[modest quarry]

they havnt silenced any of the other answers yet

[high wagon]

pearl drops arent in game yet last i knew, but who knows maybe

[fading canyon]

Infact if jinx is telling us nobody removed him then its more than likely what happned, server logs are a thing

[hollow quarry]

i dont even know what the riddle is

[short pine]

No, I have absolutely 0 faith that Jao personally DMed a random user to tell them not to spread the information

[modest quarry]

im assuming they did leave because people were dming them. that makes the most sense rn

[bleak python]

And / or was tired of being constantly pinged in here so he LEFT to silence them.

[eager abyss]

You are taking eon's word on this, there is a high chance they were not actually told this

[short pine]

That sounds infinitely more likely to be a complete scam

[frank tendon]

jinx is part of the conspiracy

[cedar obsidian]

Has the nesting by crystals been tested?

[short pine]

I believe so

[compact berry]

jinx is how we elder!

[topaz kite]

agreed

[eager abyss]

I'm going to go with 'trolled and got too much attention so made an excuse and left'

[stray notch]

genius

[weak sequoia]

if jinx is how we elder were all screwed

[eager abyss]

It happens alllll the time

[modest quarry]

i am. makes more sense for them to be telling the truth than not

[modest quarry]

maybe you are >:)

[eager abyss]

Your joke got taking too seriously so you excuse yourself and leave

[cold copper]

If the man WAS telling people not to share with eachother and grow as a community yeah Ill make him mad IF he kicked that person but if he wasnt kicked and if wasnt playing the game without cheating then I apologize lol

[frank tendon]

he's not english so I trust him

w eon

[eager abyss]

There is absolutely no reason for Jao to tell someone to be quiet about something when he wanted us to figure it out as a community.

[short pine]

If he was that would be a reson to get mad, But in all history he would react to things that were in the right direction and drop hints as time goes on
He likes the thrill of unlocking a mystery, Not silencing people

[weak sequoia]

what thrill if hes not doing anything

[high wagon]

you really didnt just agree to that..

[cedar obsidian]

and what were the results?

[short pine]

He isn't, But others are
I popped in here because I love unravelling mysteries

[topaz kite]

im JOKING XD

[crisp narwhal]

Guys can we get back to discussing the eldering mechanics. This is getting us no where.

[frank tendon]

stop conspirisizing

[fading canyon]

were takin some of these theories a bit far XD

[frank tendon]

:(

[reef ether]

after today it makes me not want to elder tbh

[short pine]

I believe that it doesn't seem to have the results, I think last I saw they were testing growing three to adult first then nesting by crystals?

I lost track

[high wagon]

[eager abyss]

A bit discouraging but no harm done in looking around and disqualifying things

[frank tendon]

fr let's pull a prank on jao and have everyone not care about eldering

[reef ether]

oh im being legit after today i will go for a a stat dragon and im not eldering

[short pine]

I play as Bio, I am literally only here because unravelling mysteries is actively encouraged with this and not punished
I dont even plan on doing much eldering

[weak sequoia]

nobodies planning on it if nobody gets a damn answer

[crystal ibex]

I just really enjoy theorycrafting. It's all about the journey ya'll

[frank tendon]

it's all a conspiracy

[dry mauve]

Im stalking chat cause this is intresting xD but same

[reef ether]

tbh its becoming not fun to try for me

[weak sequoia]

"can we get a hint" basically told the entire community to screw off

[short pine]

No, He said that he wants there to be time for theorycrafting and if we don't figure it out soon he will drop hints

[ruby rock]

agreed but somthing this powerful is kinda wierd to gatekeep, especially on a pvp server. one elder can almost wipe a clan in the right hands

[hollow quarry]

im tryna figure out what the riddle was

[weak sequoia]

did he?

[hollow quarry]

im pretty good with riddles if i do say so myself

[reef ether]

yeah 20$ first hint will be like ah u guys look for a rock

[short pine]

Yes, In the Dev QnA yesterday

[crisp narwhal]

Was there a riddle? Can someone send it to me?

[proud jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/batman-riddler-jim-carey-riddle-me-this-villain-gif-16662156

[frank tendon]

"riddle" is just a guy who doesn't speak good english XD

[fading canyon]

could we bribe him for a clue? XD

[short pine]

He gave no confirmation on How, Said that the Jedi game was his inspiration, Said that he wanted us to have time and would drop a hint if we didn't get it, There was a 'riddle' but dont know if it was joking or real

[fading canyon]

5 bucks and a giftcard for wingstop

[eager abyss]

People who aren't fluent in English are allowed to troll too! :P

[brave cobalt]

righthe didnt speak good english then suddenly could?

[frank tendon]

no. I trust them with my life they'd never lie

[eager abyss]

don't play devils advocate with me because I will lose every time :(

[high wagon]

Has anyone Read through the Lore?
maybe theres something in the lore about it

[civic niche]

what was the riddle?

[weak sequoia]

i dont trust that

[eager abyss]

Lore? Lore????

[frank tendon]

https://tenor.com/view/pat-pat-gif-24957682

[weak sequoia]

jinx wants to throw us off cause their in a pvp clan

[crisp narwhal]

I suggested that earlier but Noone payed attention

[fading canyon]

How would you like your five bucks and wingstop card sent

[short pine]

This ome

[frank tendon]

jinx IS the conspiracy

[proud jetty]

The jinxspiracy

[high wagon]

Wha?

[civic niche]

Isn't the lore on patreon?

[cold copper]

Jinx has no idea either

[fading canyon]

I asked earlier if they could be bribed for a clue XD

[short pine]

Some of the lore is free to read

[fading canyon]

five bucks and a wingstop card

[high wagon]

but for why?

[fading canyon]

the clueeeeee

Clueeesss

[short pine]

I think most of the lore is available on Patreon to read for free

[cold copper]

And better hop off my boo thang 😉

[high wagon]

im clueless, yall already think that

[frank tendon]

jinxy you want a cookie? tell us the conspiracy you conspiracy theorist

[fading canyon]

Yall the comic is on webtoons

[frank tendon]

then u get cookie

[civic niche]

Did that guy ever post the video?

[high wagon]

im not hungry right now

[crisp narwhal]

In one of the lore entries, they talk about the Ice Behemoth Drake and how he's allied with the king of the ice throne. The king is a Frostfel wyvern and he has a pearl from the head of a snowslayer queen. If he's king he must be an elder right?

[frank tendon]

:(

[weak sequoia]

none of this is ingame tho

[civic niche]

maybe? I don't think the pearls or the worms are in yet though

[weak sequoia]

thewy arent

[short pine]

Pearls are currently cosmetic only from rewards, It shouldn't be pearl locked

[crisp narwhal]

Yes but maybe not a pearl but something similar

[weak sequoia]

there is nothing similar smh

[proud jetty]

I actually like the idea of the devs making it so people have to not only search through the game, but also the lore as well. Makes it kinda fun to find out the story behind the world and why elders exist and not just “oh this dragon is elder because of a shiny rock.”

[short pine]

Yeah, That is why I am here as a bio main tbh

[weak sequoia]

yeah that would be great.. if the world we have was actually what was planned and what we expected and part of the lore instead of a placeholder.

[short pine]

It could be something that is only vaguely lore bound enough that it fits for not and is expanded later
For example, Pearls are to be gained from beating mighty bosses, If it was pearl related, It might have a feat of extreme odds in battle

It isn't worth completely throwing out I don't think
And did anyone manage to test the growing 3 main dragons to adult and nesting by crystals theory?

[dry mauve]

Crater at night? or any of the impact sites?

[short pine]

It would be worth investigating craters too, I think elementals are supposed to have impacted the planet like meteors and they are the main enemy to dragons

[civic niche]

Anyone know what the "Stones of fire" are?

[short pine]

No, I don't
There are firey crystals, But it could also reference a landmark made in the wip Megamap or lava lands map or something

[civic niche]

"The next major event would be the eruption of the Molten Mountain, Jrakhon's original home and where the stones of fire were located. "

[proud jetty]

Well I’d imagine it be referencing asteroids since when they enter the atmosphere they’re literally stones on fire.

Or it’d be a volcanic eruption

[short pine]

im sorry but it would be both horrible and funny now if the game stayed in development heck for 7 years...
i definitely hope thats not the case though

[civic niche]

supposedly the asteroids come later

[short pine]

Asteroids were later that came with elementals yeah

[lost totem]

I mean, the game released in 2019. So we're at 5 years already...

[short pine]

Yeah and I hope we don't wait two more
but at the same time i have a horrible sense of humour

Anyways, Possible references for Stones of Fire:
Craters where meteors hit
Firey crystals

Any other landmarks give off the same feeling?

[pearl remnant]

This comment just made me feel old, the fact 2019 was 5 years ago XD

[civic niche]

I wouldn't be surprised if it was another 2 years tbh

[cedar obsidian]

in the lore i found out elementals came to this world through meteors

[heavy ridge]

If you go back far enough in the devstreams, Jao complains about the Mushroom system, that the reason he wants to replace it is that it's not behavior dragons would actually do.
You might have luck trying to find activities that are a bit dragon-larpy and going from there

[short pine]

It would probably be nice to see if we could maybe organize teams to test and dig into different possibilities when able

Like a team for nesting theories, A team for combat theories, And a team for exploration theories
Maybe a team to try it all
Compare elder progress and track habits each session?

[crisp narwhal]

Ok so I re-read that lore story. It also mentions that the frozen throne is decorated with gems. Well, even though it's not frozen, we have a throne on the map. Has anyone checked it out for Crystal caves or anything?

[eager abyss]

Like becoming a great great grandparent! That sounds elder to me

[short pine]

People have been testing theories around the crystals yeah

[civic niche]

Trials??

[short pine]

I need to head to sleep but I would definitely suggest trying to organize teams for different theories to test
Rather than bulk testing one theory, We would have groups on multiple ones that can compare elder progress with varying lifestyles
If hours can be logged for each dragon as well that would be helpful too

[heavy ridge]

If not for the ASDs, I'd suggest taking hatchlings for their First Jrakonflight

[civic niche]

dang, this comic is kinda messed up lol

[stark geyser]

I remember searching a lot of the monuments around the map for hidden caves and I don't remember finding any at throne

[limber valve]

Crow got kicked because of a message issue? It wasn't from cheating or such.

[fading canyon]

Nonono Remember jink said that there was no log of them being removed

it was just smaug

[crystal ibex]

I've been trying to simplify the theories I have into things a new player would fall into. Such as growing to adult(iconic) and then accidentally dying. Finding out the unlocked mela on that dragon. Respawn as a mela, but still doesn't understand how the mutation points work. Puts one in all three of them and grows to adult.

Now as far as I'm aware we get 7 mutation points in total when we consider the bio dragon. We know one is because it can't elder(as far as we are aware). That makes 4, but where are the other 3? I have a feeling it has something to do with lore? secrets? I'm testing things, but I'm going to try to put one point in the three skills. This goes along with the star wars hint of the jedi unlocking requirements - you can be a master of crafting.

Or professions, either or

[whole hearth]

This might be a theory...but... there are different color bugs? I've seen Red, Black, and Green and there was a Blue-ish one...don't know where I found them... but maybe they could mean something? Like eat x ammount of bugs to get a tick?

[wheat bane]

"- we are beyond the mountain, and beyond our borders."

[whole hearth]

Or bring x amount of them to the crystals? And the crystals give them a strange power? that awards elder ticks when being eaten?

Just a theory...can't test it because of university...but yeah xD

[crystal ibex]

I remember in the QnA it being said that breeding/nesting/bloodlines/stats were very end game. I think we are missing what the early game and mid game is.

I think that could be the links we're missing

[civic niche]

Wouldn't eldering be midgame since you'd want the end traits for fighting/breeding?

[crystal ibex]

hmm, if we go by the trope of the hero's journey, which unsurprisingly star wars as a whole uses as well. it's where the protagonist starts from nothing, then sometimes finds themselves special or put into dire circumstances, goes on a journey, faces trials. Begins a family etc.

Going by DoD lore, the eggs that are found in the wild are special

[civic niche]

Based off that it sounds like exploring might be midgame

[crystal ibex]

The early game is then, let's say, finding out you are special or have potential. Also in star wars, becoming a jedi is often seen as a sort of rebirth. Consider this, when a new player starts out as an iconic dragon not knowing anything about the game, they go through dire situations. And then die, to be reborn again as mela. The fact that it's mela has something to do with it. Like the dark before the light

[civic niche]

So then you could only elder a Mela? That makes no sense.

[crystal ibex]

No, I imagine that once you do like the 'questline' it unlocks for that dragon to use it on any skin etc

Like how mela unlocks

[civic niche]

Mela you have to be bred in as iconic. Not spawn so it's not as beginner pathing as you're implying

[crystal ibex]

Not anymore. You can spawn as iconic and grow it to adult to unlock mela.

[civic niche]

You tested that?

[crystal ibex]

I've heard from other people, but I can test it myself

[civic niche]

Yeah I'd verify that. I've heard it's bred still. I have all the skins so I don't have a way to verify myself.

I asked someone who's big into starwars and he mentioned the midi-chlorians would first sound like water dripping when the trainee would first try to "use" or "reach out" for the force. So I'm wondering if it's something auditory we have to find.

[whole hearth]

Maby you need to eat alot of mushrooms, get full sickness and then survive that = "reborn" making you stronger

[elfin walrus]

I grew a fresh spawn iconic ss to adult and had mela unlocked right after so it seems nesting is not required. Whether or not that’s intended is up for debate

[civic niche]

Later through training he said it would change into the sound of a rushing river

[whole hearth]

Did you stay in the server till adult?

[elfin walrus]

Yes

[whole hearth]

sweet

[bleak python]

My bf also did it with ASD.

[civic niche]

Sounds like it can be fresh spawn then. Good to know

[desert torrent]

yes, same for me . i do that all the time for get the mela :)
In legacy too we can do that

[minor hinge]

I got 2.5% elder on a spawn SS after logging into it on day 2. Haven't seen any elder ticks since then. Thinking of spawning a new fresh SS and seeing if that had anything to do with it. I had logged off at the island with a bunch of Bio flowers, and logged back on at least 12 hrs, maybe even close to 24 hrs later.... not sure what did it. I had eaten bugs, bio bodies(nesting), and shrooms before logging out. Can't say for sure I didn't get the tick while online and just didn't notice... when I logged in I went from the bio island to the falls south of BR, and noticed it there.

[zenith iron]

a throne?

[civic niche]

So this I find very interesting. I somehow managed to get 2-3% on a fresh spawn leuc ASD when I was helping a private server get skins. I tried to repeat it again when I rerolled another ASD on that same server and couldn't. So I think I did something just not sure what.

[zenith iron]

a ice throne?

[dawn pelican]

I got tired of trying to catch up 😂

[civic niche]

It was also on that island

[zenith iron]

Could a blue crystal be considered Ice?

[minor hinge]

Just trying to think what else I did that day.... I took a bio egg while on that SS, and thats how I logged off? Was near lots of death from people greifing the bio nesting, but didn't kill anyone myself.... didn't starve, didn't dehydrate.... got glowed a LOT

[civic niche]

Did you nest?

[minor hinge]

Was lit on fire by an inflamed IR as SS, then ran into water to stop burning, nested my bio on that island after it hit adult, didn't nest my SS that I remember, was Male.....

Stayed at that island a looooong time before swapping.......

Anything else that may be important? Um..... made a clan? But also made a clan on my bio cuz OG one devolved and no elder on that

[civic niche]

I remember I was a male, I bred, my mate laid down a nest and i howled and I saw the words "you start to feel stronger". I've since tried to recreate that but I haven't been able to. So idk if that was one heck of a coincidence or if I had done something previously to that? Idk.

[minor hinge]

Naw, I saw "you feel steonger" after I took off from logging back in. I remember that

So not from nesting on my part....

[civic niche]

That may have been your time tick then

[minor hinge]

That SS never nested

Oh
...... still time ticks?

If so then sad

[minor hinge]

Can you tell me where to see all this???

[civic niche]

From what I understand if you log in after 8 or 12 hours (I've heard it both ways not sure which it is) you get another tick

It was on the patreon

There's some public lore bits

[minor hinge]

Hmm.... I mean.... eating mushrooms.....

I dunno if that dragon ate any bugs before the shrooms cuz admins were doing juvi grows and i flew right to the island p much.....

[iron quarry]

does a 8-12 hour tick give a full 1% with a consistant You feel stronger?

or is it a decimal range

[civic niche]

I don't think I ate anything because the admins had grown and TPed me to the nesting site

[iron quarry]

i know back then it did though im not certain

[civic niche]

No idea

[crystal ibex]

Another thing we could consider. Classes. DoD in a way has classes in terms of mutation points. Social(Healer) Agile(Tank) and scavenger(rogue).

[iron quarry]

if it doesnt... well I never got the stronger message, yet while flying away from arch I now have 0.9 for my growth

was playing around in the cave there touching crystals but uncertain

[crystal ibex]

err, not rogue. dps

[civic niche]

I had 0% on my IR when I logged. When I log in tomorrow I'll see what mine says.

[minor hinge]

That SS lived another 3 days with 12 hrs between logins and never got another tick... dunno abt time.....

[civic niche]

Could be a bug

[zenith iron]

Have any of the old ice caves been found again?

[iron quarry]

thats what im figuring, yet my curiousity is held

[minor hinge]

It went from 0 to 2.5

[minor hinge]

Looked around icy mountain, didnt see any caves.... sad

[civic niche]

Maybe you got all 3 in one 😂

It had to play catch up

[wheat bane]

I've went over each snowy mountain and have not found anything

[civic niche]

I've asked that a few times and no one has seen one.

[minor hinge]

Now, back on topic of elder, take them cave talk elsewhere!!!

[zenith iron]

I did notice in that throne looking rock by BR, there's a little notch in the inside bit

Right against the back wall

Big enough to fit a crystal I think

[civic niche]

There's also that Stonehenge like place in elder

[iron quarry]

if its still being called elder forest even by echo, perhaps that spot has some answers

[minor hinge]

Anyone tried..... picking up crystals???

[iron quarry]

yeahh i tried, u walk through em mainly

[minor hinge]

Like a bug

[civic niche]

It's a big rough circle of rock formations. Not symmetrical like Stonehenge but I don't have a better word for it

[minor hinge]

Carrying em

[iron quarry]

i do feel like this is somehow tied to crystals

theyre everywhere and world wide, maybe needing to correspond to your element in color

[zenith iron]

There's also 2 seeming impact craters in the NW

[minor hinge]

Shooting em?

[civic niche]

I heard there was a 3rd crater with red water in it. Has anyone found that?

Is that what they're calling that hole by throne?

[zenith iron]

I still need to check the SE, so maybe there?

[civic niche]

Could be

[iron quarry]

red water to a crater.. thats a new one to me

[zenith iron]

Maybe......a red crystal should be put in that water?

By a FS or IR?

[iron quarry]

even if so, cant find any crystals to pick up

[civic niche]

I don't even know if it exists or if that's some troll red herring

What if it takes more than one dragon to break the crystals?

Like the blue ones have to be super plasmaed by like 3-5 SS

[whole hearth]

But then solo pvp will never have eldering

[iron quarry]

jao recently added the blood effect for bites, if it involved breaking off peices ( which is a smart thought) then theres be some affect to it

havent ran into it

[civic niche]

They'd just have to group

[fading canyon]

I think that eldering is meant to have soloability

[civic niche]

He did say he wanted it to be a social game

[whole hearth]

Agreed Nugget

Yea... but I mean... what if I don't have friends 😦

[civic niche]

Dunno, just brain storming

[fading canyon]

Mainly cos of smaller unofficial servers that only have less than like 5 ppl on eldering would be extremely difficult for them is the only reason i dont think it would require more than 2 ppl if even

[zenith iron]

what the hell

In the NE rn

[whole hearth]

Maby make a nest near the crystals??????????????????? Just a thought

[zenith iron]

found this small out of place missing texture

[whole hearth]

Some one said that could probally be it

[zenith iron]

looks like glass

[civic niche]

Sus, screenshot?

[whole hearth]

But then again....thats not exactly solo

Some one in-game yesterday said it

[iron quarry]

also

doesnt the crosshair only go black for interactable objects

[crystal ibex]

It goes red for interactable

[zenith iron]

It's just this one spot

[iron quarry]

ahh

[civic niche]

Oh that's just missing textures lol

[iron quarry]

on bugs n such isw it was black

[civic niche]

That's a map fix lol

[zenith iron]

Eh, just thought it was weird

maybe a cave?

[civic niche]

It is, but that pattern looks like the grid underneath

[whole hearth]

I still think it something to do with the bugs... cause you get Red,Green,Blueish,Black....

Maby you bring them to the corespondign crystals

[bleak python]

but did you go beyond ?

[whole hearth]

and they stay there and get infused with crystal power..you eat them and they give elder tick?

[wheat bane]

I did... and hit an invisible wall

[iron quarry]

ima test that rq

[civic niche]

Dunno maybe.

[wheat bane]

But I did find this! #screenshot-share message lol

[iron quarry]

lmao

[civic niche]

Lol I saaaaw that.

Smh

Alright I'm going to bed, it's late for me. Good night everyone, hope you figure out some secrets

[whole hearth]

Night night 🙂

We will try our best

We in this together!

[minor hinge]

.... you think tryna decompile the code would be overkill? Could probs find it there if it can be decompiled....

[whole hearth]

👀

[minor hinge]

I mean.. i heard that rhino said what we need is in game, but also.... the code is in game XD that is if anything useful can be decompiled, and if theres nothing in EULA making that not good

Maybe too soon for that extreme XD

[zenith iron]

I think there's something in this SW valley

[iron quarry]

ehh, idk about it this time around. even if he codes in a blocking style

im not a 15$ patron anymore, but hes heavyyyyyy in writing lore. If theres any answer then he must have connected it to something there

[zenith iron]

It seems........too detailed compared to the rest of the map

Think about how many water sources and cliffs there are

[iron quarry]

true, and still is called elder forest

[zenith iron]

Ai spawns far faster than anywhere else AND why is there so many mushrooms everywhere?

[wheat bane]

to get people to explore

[iron quarry]

echo did mention places people would visit more would get more work to them compared to those not so much

[minor hinge]

Hmmmmmmmmmmmmm... still iffy on that cuz if its location based it can be camped and they said no camping

Has to be an action right?

[hybrid cloud]

might not be around the corners/edges of the map since it's still being worked on, my guess is it will be in areas that are finished/more complete

[zenith iron]

Maybe.......there's a resource here? I just think it's odd how there's so much detail in the SW compared to any other direction

[wheat bane]

I'm starting to think it's personal-based. As in you need to go through experiences to gain extra ticks, rather than collect or consume items

[iron quarry]

my guess is relating to crystals, theyre spreadout and almost everywhere. Some u can pass through some are solid, some glow more and some are faded more

wide enough out to prevent camping, yet arent always easy to locate a specific color

[zenith iron]

Wait, could you charge the faded ones?

[minor hinge]

Shrooms were plenty and were still camped

[minor hinge]

O.o

[iron quarry]

ive tried to put pure flame to them a couple times, no real difference seen

[vast valley]

I feel like the ones you’re able to pass through are just bugged or not added properly. There’s a few patches of trees around the map which you can go through aswell.

[iron quarry]

yeahh perhaps

[hybrid cloud]

so then maybe its a game mechanic like the second wind with stamina, something that can't be camped or interacted with

[minor hinge]

Gotta be... anyone have the quotes the devs said abt eldering? Ive only seen / heard word of mouth...

[iron quarry]

not much, jao is a very hard person to get answers from even with brought to the subject, but he did say if no one can find it hints will start

he can be very vague in some replies

[minor hinge]

But he said everything needed is available?

Nothing missinf but info?

[zenith iron]

Wait

[iron quarry]

thats why i say hes so vague

when asked in the recent QnA if it was possible, he noted on dropping hints if no one can find it

so yes it should be

[minor hinge]

Hmmmmmm....

[iron quarry]

think someone recorded that qna

[zenith iron]

Could those faded crystals be charged by bugs being hit by the respective element?

[iron quarry]

ive tried flaming a bug next to it, then eating it, nothin

[zenith iron]

A way to charge them......and have em cause an effect?

[minor hinge]

I doubt its crystals... ive nested near em, flamed em, people have eaten near em, and theyre not intractable

[vast valley]

Just a thought, maybe it’s nothing to do with the crystals. Couldn’t they possibly be too obvious? And the way we’re going about it, trying every possible thing to interact with them, could just intentionally be a waste of time.

[zenith iron]

It has to be a resource or interactable, right?

[vast valley]

Think about how we unlock Mela, it’s not obvious at all, and it’s extremely specific.

[vast valley]

I’d presume so

[minor hinge]

Maybe it is, but lets look past em and think on other possibilities

[zenith iron]

We have crystals, shrooms, bugs, and water as resources

[iron quarry]

well, in that case we best track back

echo, still calls elder forest elder forest
they know of shrooms being an issue, so it has to be wide enough or more common than shrooms

[zenith iron]

Are there any others?

[minor hinge]

And dragon bodies

[hybrid cloud]

could it be something like exhausting your stamina so that black bar fill all the way and the recovering it all or taking fatal damage and recovering or something like that?

[iron quarry]

yet jao lives for a challenge, so not as simple at the same time

[vast valley]

Maybe somewhere at the island. That’s the only place I’ve found with ambient sound, other than the standard ones like if you fly high, or water flowing

[minor hinge]

I dont wanna think location wise, cuz they can be camped thus making it have same issue as shrooms

Something you can do anywhere, any dragon (ASD too) and is niche enough to be secret

[wheat bane]

dragons tend to prove their worthiness to lead through actions, like in the comic. I'm starting to think it has to do with specific acts and situations

[minor hinge]

Never read comics. Give examples

[vast valley]

I doubt it, since eldering is a long process. I think the part we’re missing here is that, inevitably, ordering will more than likely remain a long process, and not a “do this, get elder”. There’ll be some waiting involved, so the likelihood of any process in which you immediately achieve elder, as opposed to doing it possibly multiple times, or doing multiple things, is minimal, if I’m correct

[iron quarry]

if it was my game and all this, id be leaning on stuff like history

the genesis update

The Genesis

[vast valley]

Perhaps

[minor hinge]

7 years... 7 days?

[vast valley]

I personally think that passive ticks will be the only method, but there’ll be things you can do to increase the tick%

[iron quarry]

i know someone mentioned getting a 2.5 tick as their first tick

[minor hinge]

That booooring!!!

[zenith iron]

Just found a very weird cave in the NW canyon

[iron quarry]

here

[minor hinge]

Was me

[vast valley]

Well that’s possible on I think ASD with 2x grow

[zenith iron]

It's SUPER hidden

[minor hinge]

SS 2x grow

[vast valley]

Not really, it depends on the stuff you’d be doing to increase the tick%

[zenith iron]

Hard to see if there's anything here

[iron quarry]

hmm

[zenith iron]

I keep having to use my IF q to see, but it's still super hard

[radiant hull]

could it be taking down worms, and they arent in the game yet?

[vast valley]

It won’t be worms if they’re not in the game yet

It’s confirmed that there is a way to elder, other than passive ticks, we’ve just gotta find it

[minor hinge]

They would have spawn locations and can be camped... plus i forsee issues with people swooping in and stealing kills

If thats the answer its poorly thought out or more complicated then just killing it

[vast valley]

Being eaten by one

https://tenor.com/view/wheeze-laugh-gif-14359545

[minor hinge]

Lol

[iron quarry]

if it was up to me i woulda given the community a riddle

and then 0 hints on it
but the answer

sparing the key to eldering

[past lichen]

What if it is a treasure hunt that after a 20% maybe more of passive you get hints to?

[iron quarry]

but im just a person who can create a riddle in an instant SO

lmao

[vast valley]

Well, we got half of it - 0, absolutely 0 hints. Only knowledge of its existence

[past lichen]

once you are say 20% or older the " you feel stronger" ticks become hitns for cords

[iron quarry]

yeahhhhhhh jao loves a challenge

[minor hinge]

Wish i didnt off that SS that got a tick, didnt think to keep cuz was bad stats

[past lichen]

can't camp random cords

[zenith iron]

I remember having a mate that told me they were 4% of Elder

[iron quarry]

every 12 hours does give you some tho too

[zenith iron]

I don't know if it had been a passive tick tho

[past lichen]

I am saying to passive to around 20% or what have you then you start getting the "Jedi" test hints for big elder growth

[minor hinge]

Asked my clan if they have anything

[minor hinge]

That can be tested if/when someone passives to some% then

[zenith iron]

I'm just wondering why Elder forest has so many caves

WAIT

[minor hinge]

Its a well-loved place? Ive been in some and nothin interesting happened... not all tho

[final cargo]

nasuadanightingale has been warned

Reason: Bad word usage

[zenith iron]

Woops

lol

there was a big cave here, right?

[minor hinge]

Try again without the F-bomb or wtever XD

[zenith iron]

it was the bad version of but, but yeah lol

[minor hinge]

Lol

Big cave where?

[zenith iron]

there was a cave behind a waterfall iirc

[minor hinge]

Uhhhh... kinda? There was a cave thing near start of river on legacy map

Had ASD shroom

[iron quarry]

theres still a cave at lookout/ the start of river

[minor hinge]

If its a location can be camped and would rather passive elder....

[iron quarry]

i will say

echo always mentions how caves will have a minimum of 2 exits so no one can camp

but id figure that meant more so trapping people

[minor hinge]

Mmmm... ive found caves with 1 entrance

[zenith iron]

camp can mean a safe area, right?

[minor hinge]

Not in gaming

[iron quarry]

most caves are closed off rn

theres a ton more

[minor hinge]

Means sitting and waiting for smthing/someone usually maleciously

[zenith iron]

NO WAY

THE WATERFALL HAS A HIDDEN CAVE

[iron quarry]

the spot is near "lookout" one of the new locations

[minor hinge]

Theres many hidden caves and many waterfalls... unless this one special?

[whole hearth]

NICEEEEEEEEEEEE maby it has something

[zenith iron]

You'd need a Bio dragon to see in here

[minor hinge]

K, i have ideas to test come morn, so imma go, cya

[zenith iron]

What in the world?

There's a area I just found

[iron quarry]

here is where im talking about

[zenith iron]

what was that clue again

something about beyond the mountains?

[iron quarry]

veryyyy subtle

[zenith iron]

That's not the one I found

[iron quarry]

its very short rn but only 2 blue crystals

interesting, all ears

what a great time to have a baby bio rn LMAO

[zenith iron]

I ended up under the map I think

Just a ton of water

[iron quarry]

OOP

[zenith iron]

Couldn't see much

Might've just in that cave tho

The cave is through there

[iron quarry]

well i jus found myself an unintended hiding hole at lookout

on my half what i mean is a bug, gonna note it later

[zenith iron]

Inside the cave

[iron quarry]

IR night vision is fixed btw

should help see whats in there

[lime walrus]

does this have anything to do with eldering?

[zenith iron]

We are just scouting rn

[iron quarry]

we're mainly trying to think of specific locations that could lead up to answers

[zenith iron]

Not a lot to work with

[lime walrus]

hmmm okay XD

[radiant hull]

they say it would be questing, i checked the trello map and questing is still off so

maybe in 1.1 update

[zenith iron]

Do we know if theres breakable rock the SS can destroy?

[hybrid cloud]

I did find a spot with green loooking water

[past lichen]

Have we tried doing like korok trials? jumping off rocks into water?

[zenith iron]

The one lake towards the end of the valley is deep, really deep

I'm going to try to swim around in it

[zenith iron]

Where was this green water?

I might have an idea....

[hybrid cloud]

501 S x 775 W

[radiant hull]

not sure its map related cause there will be different maps

[hybrid cloud]

there are bugs around here too if you were thinking about bugs or something

[radiant hull]

i personally cant wait for the behemoth drakes to come into the game

[whole hearth]

Same! But I hope they are limited

Especially with clans

Like 1 or 2 per clan

[zenith iron]

Are those jellyfish?

[celest knoll]

As time flies by, i think we got some kind of hidden milestone mechanic that's giving elder ticks for doing specific tasks like most idle games and some rouge likes have.

[zenith iron]

So I haven't imagined it

Crystal DO get dimmer if you bite at them

[celest knoll]

Like flying distance x and going up the more you achieve as example

[woeful badge]

I mentioned someone sleeping under these before and was told we're not in Pandora QQ

[lethal socket]

I remember

[rapid radish]

Wow, what a rollercoaster to wake up to xD @whole hearth what do you mean by "different coloured bugs"? I have only seen the basic black/brown 😄

[whole hearth]

Some bugs are reddish, greenish, blueish/black-ish

[rapid radish]

Where have you seeen them?

I have been all around the map and all the bugs have been the standard 😄

Do you have a screenshot?

[short pine]

One thing I remember is that there has been strong emphasis by Jao in Legacy that Eldees should not be fresh spawn dragons, And that a Fresh Spawn elder wouldn't be good
I wonder if bloodline has any play in it?

[rapid radish]

At this point, everything is possible xD

[rapid radish]

That is a normal bug tho?

[hallow kernel]

no normal bug is brown

[whole hearth]

Might be a normal bug... but why is it red(fire) green(acid) blue/bnlack (plasma)

[quick glacier]

What if the higher our stats are the easier it'll be for us to elder? Like we'll get more elder points when we log in etc

[rapid radish]

Lighting depending time of day?

[hallow kernel]

thats definitely reddish in their picture

[whole hearth]

In brightest day I see them clearly as red xD

[rapid radish]

Show me your green and blue bugs 😄

[whole hearth]

Burh... im a baby I cant go andjust show u xD

[rapid radish]

You didn't take screenshots?? 😄

Always take screenshots 😄

[whole hearth]

you mad? I just thought of it this morning as a coincidence

xD

I will next time boss 🙂

[rapid radish]

I'm not mad, wth 😄

[whole hearth]

Was joking 😄

[rapid radish]

I hope you are right, but I think it might be also due lighting 🤔 that's why I would like to see screenshots, to see how green or blue they are ^^

[short pine]

Someone also mentioned before that Jao didn't like the mushroom hunt eldering because it wasn't dragon behaviour

Has anyone made teams to test different Elder theories? We could have different threads like 'Elder Testing - Nesting' or 'Elder Testing - Combat' probably

[rapid radish]

If it's like bright blue, then yeah, it's not a normal bug xD

[rapid radish]

I'm not aware of any teams, but I'm ready to join one to test things ^^

[quick glacier]

Me and my friend are about to test some theories from here

[lone gulch]

Mabye make a list of what theories exist atm so everyone can test them

[short pine]

Nice! I have work so I can't help until a lot later in the day but I will try to be helpful too ixi

[rapid radish]

There are many lists, but they get lost in the convo xD

[vernal cargo]

Can attest that there are green and reddish bugs, havent seen a blue one yet. The colors are not very vibrant but at daytime you can see it pretty clearly. Also helps to reduce the foliage density to make them stand out more in the light

[whole hearth]

Saw a blue one near a cave once... thats why I thought of kiling a bug and brining it to a crystal...but hadnt had time to do that just yet

[short pine]

I know before in the old spoiler unlockables, There was a pin for things like Elder Mushroom maps that the community made if I recall right
I don't know if it is possoble, But if we created things like a document that lists information that we have like Theories, Tester Groups, And Elder Progress tracking logs, Maybe a mod would be able to pin it here? Idk if they can in threads though

[quick glacier]

Making a list of all the theories would be a good idea

[snow furnace]

i wonder if that is just depending on the light

[whole hearth]

Maby.. don't know tho

It is or Black or Blue, Its for sure not a bright blue, but it did look like between the exoskeleton that there was blue

Also strangley enough, ive seen a bug that had golden colors in between the armor

But I will get pics of it later

[dawn pelican]

It's always been like that. Even in legacy

[whole hearth]

Really? wouldn't know never really played legacy

Doesn't mean that theory is out

that you need the bugs... seeing as we had mushrooms for different elements...why not bugs for different elements

[dawn pelican]

You could even have a bug as a pet that was most of the time bright blue

[whole hearth]

Strange

[dawn pelican]

It's just that most of the time people don't really look at the bugs and don't notice they have different colors

[whole hearth]

well... i noticed xD

[urban mantle]

any idea if the bio is needed to spit on the dragon or crystals to help with eldering?

[dawn pelican]

Has already been tried

[urban mantle]

also does water also need to be involved? what about combining all that then hitting the crystal?

[dawn pelican]

And i don't think a dragon that is not possible to aquire anymore will be related to eldering

Has anyone tried throwing bugs in the crater ponds?

[rapid radish]

And ppl have doen everything with the crystals, trust me xD

[rapid radish]

not to my knowledge 😄

[dawn pelican]

Sacrifice the bugs to our lord and savior yeetus the fetus!

[urban mantle]

so is there a person with 20% elder growth gatekeeping the secrets then? or already figured it out?

[turbid yoke]

https://tenor.com/view/comendo-mastigando-gif-11079610887514586452

The devs are looking at this convo like

[dawn pelican]

I'm not sure, I think I heard he either left the server or got kicked but I don't know for sure. Maybe someone can check if eon is still on the server

[rapid radish]

That's what someone said. We also had 3 persons saying they have more elder growth, but they have since left/being removed from the server. And anyone coming at me with the "mods said no one hasn't been removed"; unfortunately the mod team doesn't always know what the dev team is doing 🙂

[whole hearth]

Yea EON just dipped

[mossy laurel]

I heard the person with 20% just doesn't speak english?

[dawn pelican]

I'm betting my unborn baby ir it was a dev pretending to be a random person giving hints

[mossy laurel]

But supposedly they said something along the lines of "you gotta find the circles and clean the circles"
Whatever that is supposed to mean

[whole hearth]

imagine

[dawn pelican]

It's just way too many coincidences

[rapid radish]

translation from a person, read bottom to top:

I will share the coordinates if I can
I'm busy right now
I'm also an adult yes
thanks, I'll see later
I'll stop you, I'll go back later
not something else
I don't even know the specific time but it's in the waters there
it can be at night, it can be in the morning
You're going to have to go around in circles

the go around in circles simply means to look around, it's a saying

anyone know Crow's tag, so I can try add them as a friend? 😄

[azure pulsar]

with asd in the little waterpit in the crystal cave right at big rock

sadly, I am not fully grown yet

[dawn pelican]

I can't play for another 3 hours 🥲

[azure pulsar]

but only asd can get in the "no water" area under some water in this pit

[whole hearth]

Maby its a situation of lazarus pit?

Being reborned

[dawn pelican]

Yeah I don't think it has to do with something under the water since asd is the only one able to dive

[azure pulsar]

We already were at the pount, that every Dragon could have their own elder method

[rapid radish]

unless it's species specific 😄

[dawn pelican]

It's just my opinion but i believe it will probably have to do something with the big tree near big Rock and the waterfalls. It's shaped unlike any other tree and has no function

[proper imp]

hi guys b

[rapid radish]

HANS

Hellooo

[dawn pelican]

Hi hans

[proper imp]

Hello are we any closer?

[urban mantle]

I still think the crystals have something to do with it

[azure pulsar]

asd, water, inferno maybe fire (being lit), ss being soemthing with agile flying (?), fs something fs specific

[azure pulsar]

nah

[rapid radish]

But it needs to be "grindable, but not campable" 😄

[dawn pelican]

No

[urban mantle]

Those colors could match the glow if the Dragons

[proper imp]

he said its campable

[dawn pelican]

No, not campable

[urban mantle]

Or egg glow of the species

[rapid radish]

No and the persons who got eldering have left/been removed from the server 😄

[azure pulsar]

yeah, maybe more little waterpits are like this?

[proper imp]

someone got it?!??!

[azure pulsar]

what

[dawn pelican]

The Filipino dude from yesterday

He just disappeared from the server

[proper imp]

did he say why and how?

[rapid radish]

You are welcome to try things, but ppl have been trying a lot of everything for at least 2 days already 😄

[rapid radish]

well progress

but one of them was cheating for sure

[dawn pelican]

No he only gave us hints in the form of kinda riddles, hence why I think it was an undercover dev

[proper imp]

not just an elder tick?

[rapid radish]

it was a language barrier, bc he is a philipino! 😄

[proper imp]

google translate is very good

[rapid radish]

nope 20% growth wasn't attainable only through ticks, even with 2x growth speed

[quick glacier]

Has anyone tried contacting him via dms?

[dawn pelican]

Yeah but why wouldn't he just use Google translater

[rapid radish]

I sent him a friend request, we'll see if he accepots

[proper imp]

wow i wish he told us then Hans can become the biggest blitz

[rapid radish]

and we used that and also one person knew the language and translated

[quick glacier]

Okay so now all we can do is wait and try out some theories Ig

[dawn pelican]

Yes

[proper imp]

what was this phillipino person doing before getting the 20% elder

[rapid radish]

all we got from him was (translated by a person, read bottom to top):

I will share the coordinates if I can
I'm busy right now
I'm also an adult yes
thanks, I'll see later
I'll stop you, I'll go back later
not something else
I don't even know the specific time but it's in the waters there
it can be at night, it can be in the morning
You're going to have to go around in circles

the go around in circles simply means to look around, it's a saying

[proper imp]

we should try decipher this then its our best shot

let me use my 1/2 braincell to do this realquick

[rapid radish]

it has been done for hours last night, I'm not gonna start again xD

[proper imp]

seems like a version of a fetch quest to me

[rapid radish]

but feel free to interpet it as you wish 😄

[proper imp]

go around means get stuff and go around in circles again and again

timing could be in morning and night something to do with the green glow that only happens at that time

[rapid radish]

Today he said he cannot tell anymore, bc "an admin" told him not to

[proper imp]

did jao say we were fine once we figured out?

[urban mantle]

So do all the crystals cast glowing circles on the ground?

[proper imp]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1067228836632219678/1077336245212037251/slither_medium_pers_texture.gif

[iron quarry]

Not from what I remember, but some locations without crystals can have them

One I remember being sanctuary

[azure pulsar]

circles is meant as "searching the needle in a haypile". it's a saying

[iron quarry]

Hmmm

[urban mantle]

So then what about the line find the circles and clean them?

[rapid radish]

clean?

that's not any of the translations 🙂

[pliant ice]

What the heck happened while i was asleep guess we’re back to the start

[urban mantle]

Scroll up above the translation

[rapid radish]

I gave the translation 😄

[urban mantle]

This is what they said did they translate from what the person who did it said?

[rapid radish]

"something along the lines"

this is the translation #1209681807746801724 message

no cleaning 😄

[urban mantle]

There were blue circles on the ground in big Rock cave that my clan mate could not see as a asd

[rapid radish]

they didn't mean actual circles, it was asaying

"the go around in circles simply means to look around, it's a saying"

[urban mantle]

Then just say look around Jesus

[rapid radish]

it was a translation from cebuano

[mossy laurel]

No its more second hand information i got, someone who also just heard about it

[rapid radish]

all languages have their sayings that don't translate to english

[iron quarry]

Time for my specialty
Over analyzing

• it's tied to the water and nothing else(?)
• I know someone showed smth about green water here earlier, even though most waters the same blue
• still specific areas
• coordinates are involved
• "Near 500 S x 610 W
• "It starts with the water nearby tree"
• Large opening redwood tree next to a lake
• something to look for, but can be seen/possible both day and night
• crystals stand out all the time
• it's notable to consider the little circular orbs as a possible answer as well. Not fireflies, orbs are wider spread
  • one place with this I know of is Sanctuary from nesting there a couple of times

Crossing languages always makes things a little complicated, though if the term go around in circles is more so looking around. Perhaps it doesn't stay in one place. Similar to the hybrid egg idea a longer time ago

It's definitely more of a thing rather than an action though this is second hand, though it's still visible to the eye no matter debated time

[rapid radish]

Yeah, you guys wouldn't understand this saying from my language, bc the tranlation changes the meaning xD "can't afford to capsize the boat" 😄

[iron quarry]

Ah lmao

Languages always fascinate me a little to much

Riddle making is something I also enjoy

And speaking of

[iron quarry]

Funny how I said this earlier too LMAO

[rapid radish]

I love riddles, but we don't even have a riddle at this point xD

[turbid copper]

Where's riddler to help us

[lone gulch]

What exact riddle are you talking about?

if you can call it that

[iron quarry]

Supposedly someone's at 20% way to elder...but a different language

But this is also heard in game chat and second hand thus to us

[lone gulch]

oh i found it

ty

[iron quarry]

Meaning some things aren't quite as saturate as a primary source but still more viable to finding answers than a blank board

Yeye np

If they said more specifically to what it was to look for that'd help so much more

[turbid copper]

[rapid radish]

there is no riddle 😄

[dusk magnet]

So after VERY carefully testing and waiting around the areas given or hinted at by that EON guy. I have found nothing at all related to eldering. I tried nesting in the areas. Doing all of the different calls in the areas. I even tried just living in the areas and still had no results.

I think the information we scraped together through a translator isnt worth getting hung up on and we should start looking else where. But thats just my thoughts.

[radiant hull]

well he cant tell right

let his friends follow him and record where

[iron quarry]

I went to bed around here but anything new about this green water? 👁️

[proper imp]

drink green water and swim in it?

[iron quarry]

Not sure but as someone who's developing my own game

U don't just change the water

[rustic pivot]

what "areas" are you referring too

[iron quarry]

Granted the water is mainly a flat plane but I've never seen a spot like this

[errant pecan]

Has someone tried eating a bug near the water or drinking a certain amount/thirst threshold?

[rapid radish]

it can be a bug tho?

[dusk magnet]

You want specific coords?

[rustic pivot]

sure xD

[dusk magnet]

Lemme grab em

[urban mantle]

Then how would you get the water green and is the crystals involved with it somehow then? Oh wait doesn't some times in the night everything looks green from the aurora?

[iron quarry]

The thing is I'd agree but, I've seen that texture to water before

I don't know how far back

But echo redid the map basically entirely so it's not a slip up n forgotten one

If I wasn't sick rn I'd probably recall it better

[iron quarry]

Did we ever get those coordinates?

[turbid copper]

No, but he would figure it out cuz he's smart

[proper imp]

Confuse.

[dusk magnet]

So this screenshot is from EON. He posted this along with the google translated message of " It starts with the water nearby here ". The location he was refering too was 500Stouth x 610West. Its a large opening with a fallen log / a large out of place red wood tree right next to a lake. This was the first area I tested.

EON, then posted another message which was translated into something about the two craters and a giant lake. This location was 690North x 690West. Again. I also tested there.

[proper imp]

is he a SS or FS could depend on the species

[dusk magnet]

He was an fs and I tried with all current playable species

[proper imp]

dam

[urban mantle]

I don't think it has anything to do with water

I still bet it's something with the crystals

[proper imp]

why is my DoD updating at 5mbps bruh

[rapid radish]

no, the translation was as I gave it, the craters and stuff were interpeted from the translation

[iron quarry]

Ding ding guess what's close to those coords

That green river again

Yall gotta look into this one fr

[lone gulch]

I am at that green river now with my entire admin team

if we find something we will let you know

[iron quarry]

LMAO

👍

[lone gulch]

but imo its just the lighting that turns it green

[opaque mulch]

We had heard it had something to do with something glowing

[iron quarry]

Like I said
If it's anything I'm good at

It's over analyzing

[lone gulch]

its the same dirty tap water as everywhere else underneeth

[opaque mulch]

we have looked around the map and found multiple glowing caves and certain crystals brighter than others

[rustic pivot]

@silent carbon

[rapid radish]

glowy comes from the jedi game thing

[urban mantle]

Which guess what glows

[rapid radish]

but the jedi game thing wasn't an actual hint

Jao gave no hints

[opaque mulch]

this guys stats are what?

is he e line?

[rapid radish]

we don't know

[errant pecan]

What server do they play on?

[rapid radish]

that is the only ss he ever sent us

[errant pecan]

Officials?

[analog cloak]

@turbid prawn

[opaque mulch]

because im spitballing here--what if you need full A line to do it? OR you have to have a couple passive ticks before it lets ya get to it? the activation method for this can NOT be too difficult and require something insane coding wise

So it cant be anything too insanely complicated and we are all just missing something

[turbid copper]

i don't think it has to do with the ticks

[opaque mulch]

perhaps bloodline?

[turbid copper]

Maybe, but at the same time it can be totally different

[opaque mulch]

We have only tested pure E lines on both official and our private server

https://tenor.com/view/pooh-think-gif-8829751109291692418

[turbid copper]

[opaque mulch]

what were Eons conditions?

[rapid radish]

This is the word to word translation btw ;

You're going to have to go around in circles (this is a saying that means to look around)
it can be at night, it can be in the morning
I don't even know the specific time but it's in the waters there
do you know the coordinates? : not something else

[lone gulch]

Alr so

we had a fresh adult there

they're skilled in 3/4 nesting, and are nesting (male part) at this sus water

[opaque mulch]

is it in chinese? Can you give me the untranslated version please?

[lone gulch]

now they have 2.5%

SS ^

is it an elder tick?

[turbid copper]

I have 2.7 on my IR, it's ticks

[rapid radish]

it's in cebuano

[lone gulch]

alr

[rapid radish]

kinghanlan ka mo pulit mnga bilog

pwede gabi pwede sad buntag

dili man ko kahibaw partikular oras pero naa sa mga tubig naa didto duul

kabalo ka sa coordinates? : dili lain lain

[lone gulch]

i got excited for a second there

[rapid radish]

does anyone have any A bloodline dragons and if they do, are the passive ticks still the same amount?

[lone gulch]

they are

we have reached A BL yesterday

and its the same

[rapid radish]

My translation is from MagicGoat, they actually know the language, so Iw ould trust that more 😄

[opaque mulch]

I think you have to reach a line then

like the jedi system you have to get better right?

[errant pecan]

This sounds silly but would it be swimming in the sus water?

[lone gulch]

we alr tried that for 20 minutes now xD

[rapid radish]

ok, good to know. what is the Life Expectancy stat, I know ppl talked about that being the key too?

[errant pecan]

Ah

[opaque mulch]

Are they in a pvp server?

or PVE?

[lone gulch]

we are in PVP

[lone gulch]

ah you man that philipino guy nvm

[opaque mulch]

SO if i understand this its A line is needed and then going to specific places on the map?

[opaque mulch]

all good man

[iron quarry]

I have a A BL IR rn, I was testing on a DvE official server earlier

If it wasn't the fact of being just now 8 am I'd try it

[opaque mulch]

but unlockable

XD

[rapid radish]

all theory at this point

[opaque mulch]

Makes sense if its based off that kind of system "you wont have it till you have it" kind of thing

[rapid radish]

also it shouldn't matter if it's pvp/pve/dve or cvc, eldering should be the same on all types

[opaque mulch]

it was mentioned once that PVE and PVP would have slightly different stuff at first. that be why some are asking what type of server

[minor hinge]

At the moment the information we have is almost completely irrelevant, in my opinion rather than a mechanism to follow Eon has given us a riddle to solve, it would make sense because the grammar with which it is written leads me to think only of that. There is something we have to scrounge with our minds more than with our eyes. I played an MMO a while ago and they gave players a similar riddle, it was all in the words though!

[lone gulch]

Another question, do ticks work the same as in legacy still?

because i have 7.5% on my ss and i started playing it today only

i had it for a while now tho

[rapid radish]

yes

[lone gulch]

i got my tick earlier this morening which means i had around 5% coming from something else

[rapid radish]

if the server has a growth sped up, it speeds up also the elder ticks

[lone gulch]

Oh alright then

we have x2

[rapid radish]

thta's it then 😄

[lone gulch]

im crying ;W;

[iron quarry]

I got my bare riddle rambling brain right here if yall wanna backtrack

[urban mantle]

I hate riddles 😭

[iron quarry]

We didn't have the cords then but I added them as extra bulletpoints

[minor hinge]

Analyzing this I can say, that is something we have to look at in a specific place that we can always see. Moslty crystals at this point. I think we have to head to specific coordinates and look at something.

[lone gulch]

checking this water again witha 0% elder now

[iron quarry]

The crystals bit I noted when that riddle was all we had lmaoo

[lone gulch]

How much does an ASD tick give you

[iron quarry]

Uncertain, but I know IR is .9

[lone gulch]

i tp'ed to the water, swam in it, dived, turned a few circles, got out and killed a bug, ate it

now im 4.2%

[iron quarry]

Interesting

[lone gulch]

and i didnt see the tick message either

[whole hearth]

Strange

Maby you do certain things by certain locations...

[iron quarry]

I noted about that earlier with my elder .9

I didn't get the msg..

[whole hearth]

Like hidden quests

[iron quarry]

Although I got back on past 12 hours so uncertain if it was related

[whole hearth]

Kinda like "easter eggs" xD

[woeful badge]

IR ticks at 0.9% roughly

[whole hearth]

What happens if you kill a dragon there and eat it? @buoyant linden

[rapid radish]

2.1%

[urban mantle]

Maybe eating or drinking stuff after doing something?

[rapid radish]

ASD is 2.1% and IR 0.9%

[lone gulch]

then i did something right

[iron quarry]

They did say it starts at that tree

[night tendon]

Was gonna ask if there was any luck but looks like I joined in at the right time 👀

[quick glacier]

At what cords did you do that at? I wanna check it out myself aswell

[iron quarry]

We need to figure out the rest here

[sleek kelp]

Gonna also check! Am on officials and already got my tick for the day

[lone gulch]

the green water thingy 501 S 775W

iirc

[quick glacier]

Okay thank you I'll try looking there

[lone gulch]

so assuming i got an elder tick

bringing me to 2.1%

i did something that i got another tick, bringing me to 4.2

[iron quarry]

Honestly

Im getting up for breakfast

I need to test this myself
I called ot on that green water mann LMAO

[lone gulch]

wait wait

unless

[sleek kelp]

Gonna be doing this on a spawn shadow scale with passive 3.8%

[lone gulch]

its not the time that speeds up if you have higher growth rates

bruh

its the AMOUNT

we just tested this again

and got twice an elder tick with doing nothing

[whole hearth]

0.0

[quick glacier]

I have 4.2 prog on my asd aswell but it's from 2 ticks

[lone gulch]

so if you have x2 growth

it doesnt give you every 6h

but it gives you twice every 12

[sleek kelp]

flying to that water now

[whole hearth]

So its because of growth rate?

[rapid radish]

do you have increased growth speed in the server you are on? 🙂

[lone gulch]

best you guys try it on official

[turbid prawn]

^

[sleek kelp]

I'm trying on official now

[lone gulch]

and see if you get similar results or not

[quick glacier]

Same omw I'm gonna get killed but might aswell risk it

[minor hinge]

I'm at the green water thing and for me it's blue wth

[cyan halo]

can i have coords for that place?

[lone gulch]

Yes, x2 But someone said it only affects the time span in the sense of how often you get elder ticks

but i assume now its not that

[turbid prawn]

ive been around that fallen log all day and didnt have anything happen but maybe because it was during fights/ no being in teh exact spot/long enough

[lone gulch]

it gives you twice the amount

[rapid radish]

No, it was proven that it is the amount, so your one elder tick is x2 the normal aka 2.1% x2= 4.2%

[sleek kelp]

water's also blue for me but imma experiment, starting with 3.8%

[rapid radish]

False alarm guys

it's a x2 growth server

[sleek kelp]

Ah

[rapid radish]

I wish we could pin things on this discussion 😄

[lone gulch]

i was mislead

[rapid radish]

it's fine, ppl misunderstand things all the time 🙂

[lone gulch]

you said that yourself xD i thought speeding up as in the time

not increasing the amount lmao

[rapid radish]

See, a misunderstanding, I meant the amount and you took it as the time 😄

[lone gulch]

cheeky

so we are at 0 again

that river log also does nothing for us

[rapid radish]

BTW, UPDATE ON CROW; they didn't leave, they were banned for 3 days for apparent swearing, they'll be back 😄

[lone gulch]

we nested there, slept there, ran around there and even killed each other

[iron quarry]

Surely it's still something, 20% is 20

But we also don't know the server

[half hound]

Poor crow

[minor hinge]

y'all check 237s - 620w

[lone gulch]

rip so it could be a modified one as well?

[lone gulch]

whats there?

[sleek kelp]

yea

[iron quarry]

I don't remember if it was said or not, last I know it wasn't said yet

But even if it's 2x that's still a lot

[half hound]

God i wish my brain could handle helping yall more but i am about lost braincell wise

[minor hinge]

Strange spot with the same green water

[iron quarry]

I'm a riddle person

I can make a riddle in a split moment

I haven't worked backwards on someone else's riddle in a while tho

[urban mantle]

I think it has to glow with aurora

[minor hinge]

I followed the direction of the first green water spot and found this one

[urban mantle]

Remember when suddenly the whole world is greener

[iron quarry]

G r e e n

[lone gulch]

i still think its simply a different water model

remains of the test map

the "test" map also had this water

[minor hinge]

it has strange green particles floating in a direction tho

[whole hearth]

Maby search for entrances to the big tree? Maby draco is in it?

[lone gulch]

thats supposed to be water plant stuff

sec

[minor hinge]

It can't be normal all the other ponds have a normal blue water

[iron quarry]

That's probably why it feels familiar to me

[lone gulch]

this stuff

[turbid copper]

Honestly i think something about it must be in the lore

[woeful badge]

Algae?

[errant pecan]

G R E E N

[lone gulch]

yeah

[quick glacier]

I'm about to go back to reading the lore

[lone gulch]

it floats on the top of the water and the water itself is dirty af

[minor hinge]

or dust

[iron quarry]

But still

When u think about it

No other water source spot is like that rn

[woeful badge]

There's another lake that has lilypads and flowers though

[turbid copper]

That's just dirty water

[iron quarry]

Actually I was just about to redive into that

[lone gulch]

i wouldn't be surprised if they indeed missed these two spots when changing the water models

[iron quarry]

A theory from 2 am or so

[mossy laurel]

There's a pond with a log floating in it with a little tree on it in Elder Forest
You can drink it

But I wasn't able to sniff it, might be something there

[turbid copper]

The map is not completed yet, and maybe it's just dirty water like it was in the test map

[lone gulch]

this ^

[iron quarry]

There's some areas with unsniffable water yeah

Still

The more see check the better

[lone gulch]

esp with 0% dragons

[turbid copper]

The only clue/clues must be in the lore so yea

[lone gulch]

if that wasnt a bait either

[rapid radish]

I'm so ready to ping Jao to give us a hint xD

[lone gulch]

i do feel like that would ruin the entire work towards it tho

maybe its so easy that one hint would give it away

yk

xD

but ill join in

[urban mantle]

Nah let it be easy

[turbid copper]

Yeah, if it was too complicated then, we would have get a clue or something