Increase ping cap

[stone radish]

We all know about the little grp of force desyncers but PING will not fix this instead all of our people with bad internet and our people with lag spikes will all suffer. They need to increase it. Imagine flying on a elder in PVP and all the sudden your ping spikes for a sec... boom gone dead elder. I would love to keep playing with all of the people I play with. Desync in most cases is not caused my ping and more hardware related and with 1.0 coming out it could be worse. I do not want to leave anyone out. Please Increase or remove ping cap.

If not one of these 2 options I would love for them to test it on ue5 server then just add one and go with it.

[reef ore]

Second - as someone that runs a worldwide clan/community

[vast sequoia]

Imagine the same people with high ping or high ping spikes getting kills they shouldn't be getting. Or getting away because they are desynced. 💀

[dim ore]

Then record??? I have seen people get revived.

Also what about players in diff countries that have high ping? This is forcing them to not play with their friends because of this change

[vast sequoia]

And yes a lower ping cap will help with force desyncers because their ping will be so high (depending on what they are doing) to where it will either go past or as high as the ping cap and force them to quit (that is how it should work, if it doesn't the devs will need to fix)

[vast sequoia]

There are eu servers as well. Many games has ping caps

[stone radish]

I think it fine when u get killed in a bad way u can get restored

[vast sequoia]

And also recording due to a desynced player does not work all the time. Prob about 30% of the time. Lol depends on the severity

? Mind recording your sentence it does not make sense.

Rewording

[dim ore]

Again. You are forcing players in diff countries to not play with their friends. Did you not read what i said???

[vast sequoia]

Hate texting on phone

[stone radish]

I could care less about the desync tbh because yet again the main cause of desync is hardware not ping

Especially people with low ram

Everytime u freeze Frame u desync

[vast sequoia]

I did? If I had to choose, it would suck, but I rather choose the ping cap rather than people getting kills and getting away with it. It's not fun on any party.

[next saddle]

Upgrade your stuff lmao, dont expect other people to suffer cause you dont have the right equipment

[vast sequoia]

It's both. And with ue5 you kinda have to have a decent pc

[stone radish]

Sure upgrade ur stuff but that wond help some people who live in places where they can get better ping

[vast sequoia]

Just move lol

[next saddle]

Then your argument is invalid

[vast sequoia]

I joke I joke I joke

[valid kelp]

i was bouta say, how you gunna jus tell someone to move lmao 😂

[vast sequoia]

xDD

[dim ore]

I have gotten killed bt desyncers before numerous times. Lost count. But i would rather not force my friends to be UNABLE to play with me just because they live on the other side of the world.

Thats some elitist stuff right there.

[stone radish]

I'm just trying to change this now befor they do it later

Cuz they will get complaints

[dim ore]

Literally i would take dying to desycners over forcing players to play on a diff server cuz they live in australia while im in the us.1

[stone radish]

U guys think ping cap gonna save u all these players on laptops funna be the killers

[vast sequoia]

I mean it's just the game world man. Gotta make it balanced otherwise it would be just so screwed lol. Literally any other game does this unless it's mostly pve and not really focusing in pvp.

[vast sequoia]

Laptops can be pretty good. Just gotta get a good one though

[pseudo wolf]

never had an issue on my laptop what does that have to do with anything XD

[vast sequoia]

Limit o:

[dim ore]

No, its not the game world. Putting a cap on ping to where players get kicked is not a normal thing. I dont really see many games with that tbh.

[pseudo wolf]

Mythy 😄

[stone radish]

I have no reason to argue with people who won't change their mind

[vast sequoia]

It IS a normal thing what.. xD
A lot of fos games does, pretty sure the isle does (someone would need to check), a lot of pvp games do

[vast sequoia]

We were arguing?

[vast sequoia]

Fps*

[dim ore]

Just because of a few desyncers yall are punishing the EU community. Its sad

[dim ore]

I have never seen games actively kick players 💀

[vast sequoia]

Give me a game as an example where you haven't seen. That you play that's pvp

[dim ore]

Not for that at least. Losing connection cuz bad wifi etc sure, but having a set ping limit thats HELLA low to kick them is.. yeahhhh

[stone radish]

All games have ping caps but they are mega high for the most part

So u don't notice them

[vast sequoia]

Not pvp ones usually

[dim ore]

Ive played isle prettty much since its release date. Never heard of a ping limit there. Bob. Pot. Hmmmm

[valid kelp]

does the isle kick people? as i understand it you would just suffer from high ping an rubberbanding

[dim ore]

Then if they have ping caps

[stone radish]

The isle does not kick people

[dim ore]

The limit is high so i DONT notice

[stone radish]

U would be surprised

[vast sequoia]

I am unsure on that one a lot of games don't say their ping caps as well. But I know in general games like: ow, valorant, league of legends, do have the ping caps. But I also haven't played on the isle as long or Bob. Bobs weird.

Pot I know I'm pretty sure has a base ping cap depending on the servers, for official you can get kicked but unsure of the numbers

[stone radish]

600ms

[vast sequoia]

That's still relatively low

[dim ore]

Compared to 300????

Thats high. High enough i didnt even know it existed

[stone radish]

Yeah but it allows ping spikes and a wide range of high ping players

[dim ore]

If dod raised theirs to 600 tbh I would be fine

The limit is too low

[vast sequoia]

Eh. In my experience 300 is pretty high. Maybe we should lower it 💀

I joke again.

What's the current ping cap from legacy 450?

[dim ore]

Its 300 i thought lol

[vast sequoia]

Legacy ain't 300 otherwise people wouldn't be complaining lol

[stone radish]

I have no clue I don't play pve dod

[valid kelp]

my ping on dod was over 1000 one day, it was wild

[vast sequoia]

I see people with 1000 in pvp and the ping cap hasn't kicked them 💀

[vast sequoia]

I don't either lol

[stone radish]

Yeah I will admit 1000 is alot

That should get kicked

But people should not get kicked for 300

[vast sequoia]

But I think the last ping cap was like between 300 and 600. And for some reason it hasn't kicked them

[stone radish]

Dod pvp servers had no cap

[vast sequoia]

I say let the ping cap be tested, and see from there because if the last ping cap hasn't kicked people in the 1000s then there might be issues lol

[vast sequoia]

Believe they did. Idk I'm not ab admin anymore and I forgor. Either way I say let it be tested

[stone radish]

I tested dod servers with lag switch

Then tested a bad pc

And bad pc took took win for desync

[dim ore]

Ping cap is fine it just needs to be raised. 600 would be chill like other games. 300 makes it unplayable.

[vast sequoia]

It has to be testing in ue5 on the map. And with the ping cap

[stone radish]

That's how ik

[vast sequoia]

Aaah

I say no. But it would be nice to test it the performances of the majority players. So hopefully test servers comes up and we will all see how people do

[dim ore]

They should be testing it now before their release or 1.0 is gonna suck so badly lol

[vast sequoia]

They would need public testing. So it tests many people at once within the server and then make another public server with lesser people and test from there. So you got different tests, and then make another server if need be to confirm. (Or make one of the servers with higher ping cap but don't tell people which server is which)

[stone radish]

That depends on what's inside ur laptop

I'm not saying all laptops but alot of them can't run games on ue5 especially not for a long while

[vast sequoia]

Ban laptop players. Ez

[pseudo wolf]

so long as it meets specs it shouldnt be an issue. if they cant run the game thats not the games fault i feel like. Sounds harsh but its reality

[pseudo wolf]

woah woah easy now killer XD

[stone radish]

That would be just as bad as having this ping cap I would have to defend laptop players to

I want everyone to have a chance to play

[vast sequoia]

I'm joking 💀

[vast sequoia]

xD

[stone radish]

If it meats the specs true should be no problem but we all know there are many players who will struggle to run it

I want us all to have a Chance before they push peeps away

[vast sequoia]

Sadly that's just how games work in order to be up to date and modern and stable.

[pseudo wolf]

if they struggle to run it because of their hardware that is not the games fault. I know its more nuanced than this but you cant expect to play lets say a ps5 game on a ps3 right? just cant do it. gotta upgrade

and its not like they didnt let them know about the updated requirements

[stone radish]

In the first place I was never defending people with bad pcs I want ping cap fixed

Just upgrade like yall say

[pseudo wolf]

youre right I got us off subject sorry lol

[vast sequoia]

You're right, we should ban pc players

[stone radish]

Lmao

[vast sequoia]

All their fault

[pseudo wolf]

Problem solved XD

[vast sequoia]

I think they just need to test it when public testing comes in. But I think yall would need to ask jao when/if he does put up public testing

[stone radish]

I agree but test before ping cap is released not after

[vast sequoia]

Wdym?

Before public testing?

[stone radish]

I want them to not add a ping cap before any tests are done

[vast sequoia]

Why?

[stone radish]

They wanna add a ping cap based on legacy.

I thing they should let 1.0 run for a bit then add the ping cap at the appropriate ping

[vast sequoia]

Why not just test the ping cap on a public test server that's running ue.5 with everything included

[stone radish]

Hmmmm

[vast sequoia]

Because then you basically have the real thing and would only need two test servers to test and just have one server be a higher ping cap and the other a low ping cap

And everything on pvp

[stone radish]

In my opinions instead of testing on that just do it when its released with all the players

[vast sequoia]

All the players will be able to play it though. It's public testing

[stone radish]

But I'm happy if they test it at all and give people a chance

[dim ore]

My thing isnt even hardware its literally just diff areas of the world.

[vast sequoia]

Because if you do it on release there could be issues etx. And it wouldn't waste their times either because you are getting ping caps, bug testing, etx everything all done within the test server

[vast sequoia]

O.o low graphics card? Cpu? Ram?

[dim ore]

Can upgrade hardware if ya have money but aint no one moving for a game

[vast sequoia]

I mean if you like games you're gonna update to continue playing it. If you don't have the funds you would have to return when you have the specs

[dim ore]

I.. huh

[stone radish]

Like I said specs are specs can be changed ping can't...

Unless u move

[dim ore]

I said its not even the hardware its the location where you are LOL aussie players have high ping cuz of where they are if they play with US players

[vast sequoia]

Ping can if you get a better provider unless you are in the middle of no where

[dim ore]

Even my ping spikes cuz i live in the boonies

[vast sequoia]

I thought you were talking in game when you said "different parts of the world" so thought it was specs issue

[stone radish]

My ping is good my internet provider is bad I get the spikes lol

[vast sequoia]

Well tell the spikes to go down

[stone radish]

Frfr

[vast sequoia]

Frfr

[stone radish]

Dw I'm gonna be the num desyncer cuz of my awesome pc specs

[dim ore]

Oh LOL i was so confused im like... huh 😂

[vast sequoia]

Specs too good you can tp to any player

[lyric reef]

#getshroomsnewpc

[pine bone]

https://tenor.com/view/gene-wilder-sarcastic-wonka-gif-5926299

[vapid wedge]

"Desync in most cases is not caused [b]y ping and more hardware related"
No, desync is 99.99% a connection issue. If you are in that .01% claim that it's your hardware, your system is so overloaded that the game would be 1 fps and wouldn't be able to process/send the packets necessary for the connection. There are minumum requirements for a reason.

[compact lily]

Do you know how many people got restores off of your desync butt maybe 2 out of the 20 we recorded you & smokes on and reported

[compact lily]

Yup

[stone radish]

if u thing this is true go ahead but i desync cuz i get 15 frames on dod not from my 40 ping

ur could not be more wrong

[compact lily]

We've looked at both you and smokes on ping and we have seen y'all at 800+

[stone radish]

thats uper rare for me

super

[compact lily]

But it's not your Internet😑

Right?

[stone radish]

for the most part i have had some rough isuuues in the past on ping put my pc is way worse

smokes suffers from ping mine is from pc

[compact lily]

Yours is both from what you just said

[stone radish]

i have not had ping issues in 3 months

acctually 2 and a half

[stone radish]

if you truly believe this im sorry but ur new to dod

[pseudo wolf]

What she is saying is a overarching technical thing not a specific to DoD thing. DoD doesnt supercede how technology functions

[violet forge]

Sounds like you're pissing on people and calling it rain. I think we both know no one is playing the game on a potato, or a potato posing as a laptop, so hardware shouldn't be an issue. If it were hardware related your fingers would be melting and you'd be more concerned with shutting down the system instead of trying to play this game (speaking from experience). Like she said, 99% of the time it is a connectivity issue, and if your internet is so bad that you want a ping cap above 300 you need to either stop pirating your internet or join a server that isn't half the world away.

[vast sequoia]

legacy people be playing on potatoes. but not in 1.0 thankfully

i hope

[stone radish]

all off yall are in the same vc lmao

the only reason

[vast sequoia]

I don't know half of you lmao

[stone radish]

not u myth

[vast sequoia]

yay

[pseudo wolf]

does that invalidate how tech works?

[violet forge]

This game is painful to play without the right specs, so the only people who claim to be doing it on 300+ ping with 20 frames or less have the premium version and trying to go for god-mode. Clapping dragons without being able to see or hear them in real-time. Miss me with the fantasy explanations.

[violet forge]

Careful, we could change the fundamentals of the universe if just sitting in the same vc talking about reality is all it takes.

[vapid wedge]

I won't claim that the network integrity of DoD as a game or it's servers doesn't play a part in desync. But that's not what I replied on. Desync is not caused by client hardware unless under extreme load. Full stop

[arctic bronze]

They used to but don’t anymore. This is a nice concept but the amount of exploiters and hackers that will use this to their advantage outnumber anyone actually having this issue.

[stone radish]

Wrong even a normal freeze frame will cause a tiny bit of desync

[pseudo wolf]

without affecting your ping? which is the metric on how they measure a connection to a server?

[stone radish]

i cant explain without getting banned or i would

[vast sequoia]

go to DMs?

[stone radish]

i would rather vc but they left the vc i could see them in lol

[violet forge]

You mean you can't explain how you know to force desync and the theories on what your machine is doing to force the desync, as the justification for why you want a higher ping? Wild.

[stone radish]

i have tested many things

[vast sequoia]

.> give the info to the admins. Plus if you aint doin it on official they wont care but if you care of others forcing desync then you should def report it?

[stone radish]

i would but they would prob ban me lol

[vast sequoia]

Don't explain it in public of course cause that's aganst the rules, but dm an admin or midnight about it

💀 my guy wot.
Ask on an alt account then

can't ban you if they don't know steam ID. + alt discord accounts
Why would they ban you if you give them info on what people are using to desync 💀

[violet forge]

Mythy, they're not actually trying to shed light on known hacks/exploits, they're trying to ensure the continuation of the ones most beneficial to them.

[vast sequoia]

💀

If thats the case then we keepin the 300 ping LMAO

at least I hope

[stone radish]

thats not y

[pseudo wolf]

Thats very weird because i've been in the same vc for about 7 hours 💀

[vast sequoia]

then why don't you tell them? There is literally no reason not to.

[stone radish]

oooo ur name LMAO

[pseudo wolf]

OH YEAH XD theres that

[pine bone]

https://tenor.com/view/jiminoreo-gif-9709957519444977411

[violet forge]

XD

https://tenor.com/view/oops-yikes-awkward-jennifer-lawrence-gif-9504720997818108080

[stone radish]

ill join in a sec after im safe on the isle and explain if u want

[violet forge]

Then come speak your peace my dude. Nothing like being told you're wrong in private versus publicly.

[vast sequoia]

💀

[pine bone]

I seem to recall things being admitted to Midnight after his elder ss died at the top of Para mountain from desync. Could be remembering it wrong tho

[vast sequoia]

wot?

like someone admitted to mid that they were desyncing on purpose?

[pine bone]

yes

[valid kelp]

not the admin midnight

midnightalpha

[stone radish]

i was growing on 3 accounts lol not my fault

[violet forge]

Ah, because its our fault you're playing 3 versions of a game on a system that can't support it. Almost as if playing that many iterations at once is a known problem you would have that would consistently and reliably cause desync. Yeah, makes sense that the simplest solution there is to raise the ping cap and not, idk, stop using Sandboxie?

[stone radish]

having 3 dods open does not increase ping

[violet forge]

Nah, but you tried to cite a hardware issue for desync, and then literally state you're running a program that overclocks said hardware...Bruh

[stone radish]

hardware is an issue but im not putting using sandboxie into that category cuz thats its own thing

[violet forge]

https://tenor.com/view/can-tell-if-were-joking-or-not-david-rose-david-schitts-creek-ep303-gif-20256342

[woeful reef]

shrooms im sorry but its gotta be done broski

people need to stop using clumsy bro

we have people with bad internet and people across the world on our community server (which we added a 300 ms cap on) and nobody has been kicked or lagged out during our training sessions

[stone radish]

This is from when I was using sandboxie

Lmao

That's also not sum u should put in officially disc

[stone radish]

Also it's funny that u think clumsy is a threat it's a massive double edge sword

[woeful reef]

but people who use clumsy can force desync and turn it back off whenever they feel like

[stone radish]

Glad u know that

[woeful reef]

yeah ask your clanmates they tell me about it

[next saddle]

Pftttt nah they dont unless extreme cases.

[dim ore]

its okay they raised the ping limit to like 400 or 500 im happy o3O

[next saddle]

I have clips of being behind a fs as a ss and im being flamed. I reported it and tryed to get a restore and they said " well you need to be this distance and in this case its not extreme.

[next saddle]

Good

[dim ore]

FELT I remember when midnight was on fs and I got flamed from his booty cheeks 😭

[next saddle]

Lmao, i really dont mind the desync players, what really makes everyone mad is the fact that the admins wont restore you, regardless if its minor desync or if its massive, we should be restored.