Petition to take off clanless immunity on CVC & recommendations

[vestal sinew]

There is so many exploits to come with CVC for unclanned person's. As well as work arounds of helping a clan and causing traps to happen as well as growing. Exploits can be but are not limited to: Spying on clans for growers/numbers, spying on nesting spots of clanned dragons and sitting there until their clan arrives. A unclanned person can get close enough in render to lead clanned players into a trap and flying away once the fight begins to switch to a clanned account or join the clan. Unclanned players can pick up babies of anyone and go un-punished. CVC should be as the way legacy was for PVP but keep the needing to log out to join and leave clan ONLY. The red eyes are un-needed because you take away the stealth of the clans ASD's. Give it to the unclanned if anything to determine differences. Since solo-pvp has their own server there is no need to protect them on CVC.

[grand vault]

big yes to these changes.
if someone on a CVC server wishes to spectate they need to be okay with dying or getting caught in crossfire.
CVC is not the place to chill and grow and elder etc
you dont go to a battleground and just whip out a campchair and expect to be left alone.

[clever dew]

So necessary

[fast parcel]

i agree

[silent ether]

AGREED

[delicate cypress]

facts

[charred matrix]

100% agreed, there is no point in protecting solo players on server made for clans. Just turn off the solo's protection.

[terse scroll]

^

[unkempt frost]

Could change the solo eyes to blue or green glow

[spare quartz]

Agree

[mild root]

AGREED

[cedar obsidian]

Hot Take:
If for whatever reason the Solo Play is kept, there should be an EXTENDED timer for leaving/joining clan. 1 minute to log out can be considerably easy given the circumstances and would make get aways so ridiculously easy.

[terse scroll]

As well

[strange oxide]

AGREED

[tame furnace]

Best course of action on both accounts

[unkempt frost]

Yes

[strange oxide]

more attention to this pls

[vestal sinew]

thats not gnna help with anything no matter the timer rlly

if a clanless is baiting you, you cant do anythign anyways

[grand vault]

would a "peace mode" be a good thing?
a blue eye glow with attacks disabled- could also be used as a guns down peace meeting mechanic.
like raising a white flag.
something to give the user a huge disadvantage but not immunity

[vestal sinew]

if someone logs before you ctach it like it always has been, you just take the L

[vital breach]

Could not agree more with this, CvC is a great concept but with this it's going to be HEAVILY exploited. Spying, Scouting, and much more will be possible with CvC the way it is planned. Look at how much people exploit meshing and glitches in legacy right NOW.

[cedar obsidian]

But hear me out.. say example: the timer is extended even up let's exaggerate an HOUR. That's an account that can't be used to engage back on a fight if Solo is kept. This will force the person to take the fight or drop out entirely. Granted, of course, more alt accounts, but- 🤷‍♂️

[fast parcel]

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[vestal sinew]

are you saying the timer to log out? If so you can just keep 1 account out of clan at all times then and still exploit

so there rlly isnt a reason to change it

[charred matrix]

Exactly

[stiff cape]

I do agree that the unclanned immunity will cause a big issue to clanned servers.
As it will be used for clans to grow the most important hatchys safelty or even in battles. If an elder is low, all they have to do is leave clan and bam, they get away without being killed.

I think there should be alittle change to it such as maybe immune till Juvi stage then from there you can be killed or ect,
Or just get rid of the entire CVC unclanned immunity thing.
Many clans will use this to a huge advantage

[vast meteor]

Territories will be a thing in this new update, right? Why not have a radius around the clan's home 'base' be a PVP zone? Meaning, doesn't matter if you're clan or not, you can die.

[cedar obsidian]

I like that thought actually

[vestal sinew]

if it were tht id just hatchi bomb clans and leave em there to spy

all unclanned should just be targeted

[clever dew]

Is that a thing...? I've not heard about territories

[vestal sinew]

No

[stiff cape]

Another issue that can occur haha it’s so touchy with this immune thing

[vast meteor]

I vaguely remember hearing things about dedicated clan territories, but I can't remember if the concept was scratched.

[vestal sinew]

yup, thats why it should just do without all together instead of compromising XD

[grand vault]

i dont see a way of getting around any of the issues without AT LEAST taking away the immunity.
maybe half the stamina of the unclanned as well, like a status effect?

[stiff cape]

Legit XD
Jao needs to try and sort this out before it drops as there’s gonna be a lot of arguing for it

[unkempt frost]

If you do that might as well not allow them on the server

[clever dew]

now THAT would be unfair to new clans unless there was a capture the flag mechanic

[stiff cape]

The stamina part, hell nahhh

[vast meteor]

Or- maybe have some semblance of like.
Clanned will all have glowing red eyes, right? So you can spot enemies easily.
Why not give unclanned glowing blue eyes, so you can know who is an enemy, but know who to recruit?

Still allow people to be killed, regardless of clanned or clanless.

[charred matrix]

the red eyes is another thing thats should be removed

[vestal sinew]

unclanned should have the glowing eyes if any

[clever dew]

Because the problem isn't if you can tell they're unclanned or not. The problem is they can come find you and lead people to you, scout, be a pain in the butt, and you can't do anything about it

[vestal sinew]

would make it easier to tell too if clans are nice enough to leave them alone

[charred matrix]

why would anyone want to have a glowing eyes on pvp server

[vestal sinew]

fr

[grand vault]

there will be way more unclanned on CVC servers- they need the marker more than clanned

[clever dew]

And there are people who will kill those who are unclanned just to be mean, they already do it haha

[grand vault]

what about player tag will show on unclanned?

[vestal sinew]

wym?

like how admins names show above their heads?

tht would help to report them but thats it

[charred matrix]

there is no need to mark anyone at all, maybe make it an option that unclanned ppl can turn on glowing eyes but thats it

[unkempt frost]

I like this

[vital breach]

I wouldn't mind a red glowing eye effect if you kill a clanless though, for the shame >:D

[vestal sinew]

THIS

hahaha

[charred matrix]

yeah but for like 15 minutes lets say

[vital breach]

everyone will know what you've done haha

[cedar obsidian]

Or maybe here's an idea... like how Path of Titans prevents you from logging if you're in combat... what about the prevention to leave clan if your CLAN is in combat for whatever duration of time? That's to hoping not all targets are lost.

Idk, grasping for straws at this point. 😭

[charred matrix]

i can still be able to spy on my unclanned acc

[cedar obsidian]

But then again, it's just generally just exploited anyway if someone leaves an account OUT of clan to then join.
I suppose the only other options to that would be making it so the Chieftain or multiple TCs have to approve a join?

Or SOMETHING.

[cedar obsidian]

Too many loopholes to be done, can't cover all angles frfr.

[charred matrix]

exactly, and knowing dod players they will find even more ways to abuse it

just turn this off, let unclanned ppl turn on glowing eyes and thats it.

[naive shore]

preach

[safe grotto]

Another exploit unclanned can probably do (if it's not fixed in 1.0) is using a ss to shoot at a clan member trying to log and stand them back up. It's something you could do in us4/legacy, even though you don't take damage you can still get stood up and prevented from logging. I could see clanless using this exploit to keep clanned members from logging out while their actual clan comes to kill them, or follow the clanned dragon around while giving the position away to the clan. Too many loopholes

[crude scaffold]

and equally another potential exploit. group of unclanned flying together to body block clanned players from another clan, say youre an ss trying to get a kill shot on an fs a group of immmue ss get in your way what can you even do?

i wouldnt want to split up my clan just to avoid immunity trying to play on a pvp server.

not to mention the glowing eyes are just not how id want to play a server to fight others

[pallid swallow]

if you really want to make the clanless to be safe from the clanned, then make the 'hub' part of the map a safe zone (like BR) with a cooldown before becoming protected again when reentering the save zone

and red eyes absolutely kills the joy of having a variety of skins

[sour orbit]

Didnt we already have a suggestion like this with almost 1000messages and the devs didnt care

[rapid haven]

assuming most clanned people have more than one account.
Maybe this could be solved by unclanned dragons being able to damage other unclanned ones but not having a hitbox for clanned so they could't be body blocking but the clan still have a counter to them with allied but unclanned players?
If worst comes to worst we could just throw clanned/unclanned in different instances of the same map where they still can hear/read each other but not see or otherwise interact

[vast pawn]

Ah hound finaly woke up. Sadly to late the game is done.

We could Change something earlier, because we talked about this 1-2 months ago.

Ah i forgot it was us and there are some personal Problems.

https://discord.com/channels/576933363672285186/1172527778009186314

[torn mirage]

Tbh it’s not that deep

We got PvP

I like the damage on

It increases the skill gap

[silent ether]

Your post had 23 yes's and 30 no's this one has 45 yes's and 3 no's

[silent ether]

Things can still be changed, the update isn't out yet

[edgy halo]

Ok how about this for CvC. Instead of letting solos get attacked. (Which would inevitably lead to groups just ganking solos like in legacy.)
Just make it so clanless peeps cant grow. Then pretty much the only people that will play on CvC are people already in clans.

So if growth is disabled for Solos, they can reach out in global to get a clan or go to regular pvp server.

Eldering and nesting is already disabled for clanless people. Might as well just disable growth to. Then there cant be any scouting really as youll be a hatchling and inevitably a fresh spawn.

[charred matrix]

this will allow us to pick up unclanned hatchie and drop it to spy on other clans while not being able to kill it

solo players already have solo pvp

[edgy halo]

But if picking up a clanless hatchy is disabled

Then its not a problem

[charred matrix]

then imma go and pick up every hatchie so i can kill it after then the protection still makes no sense

[edgy halo]

What? Its not protection

Disabling everything for a clanless person in turn fixes all problems. As they cant do anything and neither can clan people do stuff to them.

Disabling growth and pick up. Elder and nesting is already disabled

[charred matrix]

ah right, i didnt understand

but then again why would anyone want to be a hatchie that cannot grow and do anything

[edgy halo]

People are not happy that scouts can be a thing, a clanless adult flying around. Instead of enabling damage to solo adults, (which is literally just regular pvp) this solution makes it so, people that want to play cvc will be the ones joining. Looking for a clan or already in a clan

[charred matrix]

but what will u gain from being able to spawn as a hatchie that cannot grow on a pvp server

[edgy halo]

Nothing thats the point. You want to play on CvC then join a clan

[charred matrix]

so they can just turn the protection off cuz it makes no sense

[edgy halo]

At that point sure. Because then it will only be clans killing hatchlings. Or hatchling killing hatchlings. Obviously disable pick up for ungrouped hatchlings and have fall damage so you cant just drop a hatchy for spying

But from view i think this helps CvC as a whole. As only people who want to play CvC will join

[charred matrix]

There is just not a single logical reason to protect solo players on a server made for big clans. If the protected solo player is supposed to stay forever hatchie then the protection makes no sense cuz pvp can help u with that cuz what difference does it make if u gonna stay forver hatchie by getting killed or by the server settings (if u wont join clan)

[charred matrix]

and thats why it makes no sense. Only people that wanan do pvp and wanna join clan should go and use CvC

[vestal sinew]

This would only work for actual noobs to CVC someone can still leave clan and scout once they're adult/elder.

[edgy halo]

If you wont join a clan, there is regular pvp and solo pvp servers

[edgy halo]

Have to find a way to combat that aswell then. But at least my option helps to some degree

[vestal sinew]

The only answer to all of this like I said once again is to get rid of immunity all together. There is no good compromise for this.

[edgy halo]

But at that point its just regular pvp

So get rid of CvC

[blazing notch]

Exactly lol

[charred matrix]

it is not cuz its clan limit is 1000 not 200. I can tell u right now that the top10 biggest clans on pvp servers all have more people than 200 and they will be forced to split the clans

[vestal sinew]

Other than as you said a "safe zone" but if that happens anyone inside the safe zone needs to have their names above their heads like admins do to report for exploitation when they're not on by starting fights then running to the safe zone.

[edgy halo]

Regular pvp has 200 as a clan limit

[charred matrix]

and CvC is 1000. cuz it was made for big clans, but no big clans wanna use it

[vestal sinew]

We've been saying that, only reason we want to fix CVC is because it's made for large clans atm and PVP servers are not.

[edgy halo]

Ah i see

[vestal sinew]

Basically you either play a PVP server where you don't get what you asked for. Or get forced to play a exploited server off the bat but you can get 3/4 of what you had in legacy.

[charred matrix]

• there are supposed to be additional clan futures on CvC than wont be included on pvp

[edgy halo]

Heck just make it so your dragon dies if you leave a clan

[vestal sinew]

LMAO

I won't argue that

[charred matrix]

nah cuz what if I wanna switch clans after i spent 100 hours eldering my dragons

[edgy halo]

Thats my point in the joke. Why switch clan’s randomly

[vestal sinew]

A Lot of drama happens in clans as well as internal spies so some peeps switch clans often

[edgy halo]

Yea thats why i left my clan and stopped playing for awhile

[vestal sinew]

Shoot I've been in 6 diff clans myself on US 2 in the past year & 1/2

[edgy halo]

Anyway it was a joke lol

[blazing notch]

I been rocking w the same crew since day oneeeee

[crude scaffold]

i still dont understand why solos want to play on a cvc server when they have specific servers MADE for no clans/little clans

[charred matrix]

cuz they wanna decide when they wanna engage in clan wars 😭

[crude scaffold]

i mean i guess but like this is all cause people want to complain about being a random in a game where clans n having a team is the only way to progress

[charred matrix]

ik right its just not logical at all, they should just make another CvC made for actuall big clans not some noob solo players imma be honest

[crude scaffold]

only options is split clan to have a sense of normal in pvp or suffer in an extremely exploitable cvc

[robust tundra]

I 100% agree. CvC should be catering to the big clans playstyle, not new players without clans. That is what the PVP servers are for etc etc. You can STILL survive in cvc just like players did in the legacy officials. You can still join clans. But giving them protections like that is just going to cause so many issues.

At the end of the day - just make CvC the way it was before. No glowing eyes. No solo protection/clanless protection. Large clan limit. Group dmg off. Its that simple.

Either that or make ONE CvC server this way. Like. You can have multiple servers with diff options 🙄

So why not have a CvC server with these to allow normal play.

Another issue with the clanless protection is DRAGON PEARLS. People gonna be clanless while clans fight to snatch pearls safely.

[crude scaffold]

bro i forgot about that

[charred matrix]

they will probably disable that for clanless, but then again if u cannot do ANYTHING unclanned they what is the point of that at all

[crude scaffold]

if cvc stays the way it is currently its going to be a useless server

[robust tundra]

Tbh i might not come back to dod if pvp and cvc are as they are.

People forget about one of the biggest killers in this game: LAG. NOT DESYNC. LAG. People wont get kicked for lag as its usually the server falling apart.

Now with group dmg enabled, no matter how "skillful" you are, you cannot beat lag. You have a high riske of dying.

[charred matrix]

im gonna abuse the solo options just to prove a point and kill randoms just after they join clan, idc

[robust tundra]

Dont forget if you get a niiice critted dragon you can just leave clan and grow it safely 🙄

[placid shore]

Unless they add a mechanic that you gotta be E blood as clanless

Plus even if you do, you can't breed or fight with it so

[potent viper]

that wouldn't make sense though

[charred matrix]

u can stil spy and abuse it in many other ways, some people listed it, just completely remove clanless protection they have their own server

[placid shore]

Or maybe just don't have an official CvC sever?

Have it beusable by private servers

[charred matrix]

big clans wont go to private servers

[placid shore]

My clan is almosy a hudred strong we live in a pric server

[gusty sandal]

Then PvP will be ruining for smaller clans and new players. Do you want to be chased and bullied by a huge clan with over 500 accounts?

[placid shore]

almost*

[charred matrix]

diff type of pvp

[potent viper]

i feel like an official cvc server could be great but it would still have chaos, what bothers me most is that clans will be antagonizing every single other clan which is also bad, plus then again the clanless protection will make things worse when exploited

[placid shore]

Exactly, leave CvC for the private servers with diff pvp than officials instead of just removing it?

[potent viper]

i mean cvc being on official is a good idea

[woeful meteor]

CvC that's the whole point. To fight and antagonize other clans

[potent viper]

what foils the plan are the abusers of it

[charred matrix]

but thats part of clan pvp yall

[potent viper]

i mean true but no one wants any clans to go above and beyong limits and convincing fellow clanless solo players to go spy and to give off information

plus clan members can just leave and join back and gather info like that

especially for very greedy clans

[placid shore]

CvC has a join/leave cooldown

That's been confirmed

[charred matrix]

so remove protection of clanless and the issue is fixed thats all we asked for, if someone dont wanna deal with clans they can do solo

[placid shore]

Removing protection of clanless makes it normal pvp

[gusty sandal]

CvC is meant for that. For how clans truly treat each other. For how we truly participate as a clan and fight as a clan. CvC can allow such toxicity without disrupting solo/new players who wish to improve and practice before joining such clans or those that just don't like being part of a clan.

[potent viper]

people will wait it out if it means they can claim more power and dominance

plus they can still keep in contact with the clan through discord and stuff

[gusty sandal]

No one will want to host a private server which requires us to pay for if our devs have already been kind enough to offers us our own official server

[placid shore]

Thats a good view

[woeful meteor]

It doesn't have to be different than normal PvP to be valid. Calling it CvC makes it a clan space. Not a solo space

[gusty sandal]

Why cant big clans have one on PvErs, PvPers, and solo PvPers can have one?

[woeful meteor]

PvP has the clan cap. CvC is way bigger for a reason

[placid shore]

So that clans can take in solo players

Who are ready

[gusty sandal]

Even if PvP has a clan system. You won't really see clans like GRAND, ANBU, 1337, GAIA, or any of those that most players complained about.

We would have our safe space which is CvC

Once a solo player is ready, they can just move to CvC. That's why we have clan recruitment in this server. So communicate we're ready to be part of a clan.

[potent viper]

trust me i do get that and yes i know that is the reason cvc is a thing but clans won't think of it as fun if there is a dominating clan that is literally diminishing clans just to be on the tippy top and making it unfair for other clans and doing whatever they can to be able to accomplish top dominance to rule over the whole cvc

[gusty sandal]

But that's how clans work. Try to be the best. There is no equality in clans. There is no such things as "let's let this clan grow and we can calm down"

[charred matrix]

what makes u think that it wont happen on any server that has clans regarding if its cvc or pvp

[gusty sandal]

NO clan thinks that way

[charred matrix]

like trust me regardless of anything clans will dominated both servers that enables clans

[potent viper]

true

[charred matrix]

and all we ask for is to have our own space and they refuse to give it cuz they wanna protect solo players on cvc which makes no sense

[placid shore]

Y'all forget

[charred matrix]

bro, if my clan will get 10 people on Solo PvP we will still dominate any random group of people

[placid shore]

CvC means Clan versus Clan

[gusty sandal]

Plus that's the whole point of CvC. Clans fight each other and compete for dominance. If not then what's the point of a clan? It's not a happy place of equality

[placid shore]

Not Clan versus Solos, or Player versus Player

[gusty sandal]

Exactly!

[unborn falcon]

Would be cool if all clan dragons will be invisible for solos?

[gusty sandal]

Clans will focus on clans and being better but solo protected players will get in the way and it can be exploited by the other clans for spying

[placid shore]

Maybe just add a timer on CvC for solo players

[gusty sandal]

Imagine I'm on my elder fs nest and have a bio that I can't kill somewhere near me waiting for their clan to come kill me off

[charred matrix]

people can still stay unclanned on alt acc

[placid shore]

You get X time before you need to join a clan before you get marked as PvP

Problem solved, then if you already joined a clan and left ur still PvP marked

If you haven't joined yet you got X amount of days to fnd a clan before u also have to PvP regardless

[robust tundra]

CvC is meant for the bigger clans. It allows for different playstyle how us1 used to be. Us1 had LARGE clans running it and small clans couldnt really survive. Pvp allows for the smaller clans, while cvc allows for the big clans to go at it.

Enabling PvErs by putting on clanless protection is useless and honestly it needs to be removed. The ability to scout and not get killed ruins the whole CvC aspect. The eyes glowing ruins any aspect of ambushing.

SIMPLE FIX: KEEP CVC BUT REMOVE PVE ASPECT (aka clanless protection/glowing eyes)

[frozen flame]

CvC is actually more designed for PvE solos to learn how to play in a clan.
Clans will play PvP, but it can be hard for a player to get into already established clans, particularly if they are only just getting used to PvP.

With CvC they are basically getting PvP light, where they can make friends, form groups and then brand new clans.

[charred matrix]

what type of new clan will make clan made of 1000 ppl

[robust tundra]

Or i dunno, mayhe have DIFF SERVERS with different options since people are going to whine. They have several servers with diff options. Idk why they want to take away from large clans that have been keeping this game alive in legacy by shooting us in the foot with this. When instead, just let us have what we had. No changes needed

[charred matrix]

and if so why big clans dont have official server made for them

pers already have so many things done for them

[frozen flame]

What sort of clan needs that many players anyway?

[robust tundra]

CvC makes zero sense dor solos to learn how to play in a clan. Do that in pve. Or pvp with small groups. CvC should not be where that is placed.

[charred matrix]

why do u care when u dont play pvp

[gusty sandal]

New clans can always be formed in PvP. Id they feel like they're growing then they can go ahead and move to CvC to continue their expansion and now compete against other clans.

[charred matrix]

10 of the biggest clans have more than 200 ppl on

[placid shore]

Bro

[gusty sandal]

Plenty of them

[charred matrix]

we will be forced to make 4 clans to keep all the ppl in them

[placid shore]

She knows what the devs r talking and doing

[robust tundra]

Do you play official pvp us1 etc at all? Do you not know of clans getting big to fight each other? Lol

[gusty sandal]

People have multiple accounts as well

[placid shore]

Just add an off server with no clan cap and group damage disabled and keep CvC how it is

[frozen flame]

Because I would like to play PvP, but it is a hard to get into when you are lucky to only reach adulthood for ten minutes

[robust tundra]

The devs are playing on PVE aspect ONLY

[placid shore]

^^^^

[crude scaffold]

then play solo pvp luse?

[robust tundra]

Literally just make a CvC server with no solo protection and no glowy eyes and honestly there would be no issues

[placid shore]

Maybe add glowy eyes to the solo players

[unborn falcon]

Its not that hard, but and more fun)

[placid shore]

Not the clanned players

[crude scaffold]

pvp is just punishing big clans. cvc is punishing clans for existing

[gusty sandal]

But that issues we had it when pvp had big clans. CvC removes big clans from those PvP and allows those that wish to practice, a better chance.

[frozen flame]

And it's hard to join clans because most clans are worried about spy's and don't want to deal with a newbie

[woeful meteor]

I understand wanting to live longer than 10min, but you guys have so many options. We just want our dedicated server for what we love too.

[robust tundra]

This is in every game. Every. Game. Isle has it, BoB has it, PoT has it. Every game.

For DoD, they have the pvp server. Hurting BIG clans is not the smart way to do it.

[placid shore]

Maybe... just maybe

[gusty sandal]

Like I said. Clans can be formed in PvP. Once they grow they can move to CvC. No EVERY clan will reject someone new.

[placid shore]

They're trying to encourage smaller clans

[frozen flame]

And DoD is trying to do things differently

[placid shore]

Not mega clans

Ever think of that? CX

[peak jetty]

Then why make grandparents part of upstatting lol

[frozen flame]

We should be happy the Devs are trying to think outside the box

[robust tundra]

If we had CvC without the cons it takes the large clans out of PvP. Then newer playera can use the pvp to practice.

[gusty sandal]

What's the point now that their players have gone used to such mechanism that has allowed this game to have some many players as well?

[placid shore]

To make A, A+ and A++ RARE

As it technically should be cuz it's powerfl

[robust tundra]

Again they can help you guys that want to learn by not hindering the large clans.

[gusty sandal]

We are but suggesting never hurts

[peak jetty]

Needs more accounts in a clan to upstat

[gusty sandal]

I'm sure we want to make sure this is a game we can enjoy as well

[woeful meteor]

I appreciate that, I do. But in this instance, PvE players get what they want, PvP players have a safer place to play with a 200 cap instead of 1k. The only ones who lose here are clans

[robust tundra]

Fr with grandparents being added to upstating, you NEED more accounta or more members

So put clanless protection in PvP

[peak jetty]

A is soldier standard. + and ++ should be rare

[gusty sandal]

Thinking outside the box is nice but played opinions and feeling should be considered. Majority of players that is while also making is enjoyable for the minority.

[placid shore]

or allies

[robust tundra]

Not CvC. Esp since pvp is MEANT for the smaller clans.

[clever dew]

This isn’t true at all.

Clans are recruiting new people all the time

[gusty sandal]

Yes exactly!

[charred matrix]

But mega clans will exists anyway do yall u derstand it 😭😭 like i will kill every random every hatchie every solo player on any server if a want to and not giving big clans their own space wont change that

[robust tundra]

Fr ANBU recruired several new people recently.

Like i said they have an easy fix that HELPS new players

[gusty sandal]

Now ofc if your acc looks sus then anyone would question it

[charred matrix]

If yall are not part of big clan why yall wanna destroy the experience for us if there are servers for you already

[clever dew]

Everyone who is in a big clan now had to start fresh at one point and learn to grow and stay alive and fight. So why are new players being pampered to do it without being killed, at the expense of the pvp community’s enjoyment of the game, when we all had to go through the growing pains of learning ourselves?

[peak jetty]

The reason big clans will avoid cvc is because of the utilization of immortal scouts/ground tracking/ baby camping.
Cvc servers will primarily be filled with pve clans that want to “occasionally” pvp

[robust tundra]

CvC is meant for large clan fighting. Keep pve aspects out of it. Remove the solo protection and glowy eyes.

Pvp is meant for small clans. Literally. Put in clanless protection there. Now you dont have large clans in pvp and you STILL have the aspect of safely learning pvp

[placid shore]

I tried playing offs after not being on it for months. Got killed for being a "clanned spy playing clanless" cuz I had over 1.5k hours... they didn't believe me when i said private servers exist

Official clans wil lalways have issues

[woeful meteor]

So then don't go onto the clan v clan server EZ

[robust tundra]

Again my suggestion will fix that.

[gusty sandal]

Omg yes!!!

[robust tundra]

If they did what i suggested EVERYONE WINS

[gusty sandal]

Guys pick that what Necro said

They have a huge point

[placid shore]

Make su suggenstion or link it

[woeful meteor]

[gusty sandal]

Necro put that as a suggestion PLEASE

I BEG

[robust tundra]

Big clans stay out of the pvp small servers, pvp servers have small clans that learn to fight together, and newbieslearn on the sml clan server whwre they can join a small clan and EVENTUALLY grow big enough to go to cvc

Okay i wo
Ill xD

Omg will*

[clever dew]

I’ll also say a lot of the time big clans only kill fresh clans when they’re bored, most of us would rather fight other large, skilled groups. There’s not a lot of fun in destroying some new guy who can’t fly yet

[gusty sandal]

Can we all just appreciate Necros suggestion? It actually make a lot of sense ngl.

[placid shore]

They still do a lot wym XD

[gusty sandal]

Exactly!

[gusty sandal]

Yeah because we didn't a CvC

[placid shore]

See a hatchling? ehhhh lets kill it cuz why not

See a juvie faceplanting learning to fly? bite it

[gusty sandal]

At least big clans can only focus on other bigger clans. There is no satisfaction of bullying a smaller one when we can compete with the big ones for dominance.

[placid shore]

Official servers are like that, you can't deny it

[clever dew]

Sure people did it I’m not saying they didn’t. But with people being active again in 1.0, new dragons to use etc., a lot of the skilled pvp base will return to the game

[gusty sandal]

Allying is a thing as well, let's not forget that.

[placid shore]

True that Moon

[charred matrix]

That is not part of the conversation it will happen anyway, if u dont wanna engage into fighting do pve if u dont want clans do solo pvp how many times do we have to repeat that everyone has what they like except for big clans

[placid shore]

TBh a clan with n allies will always be weaker than a clan with them

[gusty sandal]

And most clans respect allies as well

[clever dew]

Alsoooo isn’t the whole point of the official pvp servers that there are no rules? I’m sorry to be so blunt but truly, it’s pvp, and there are no rules. Yes it’s very mean when people kill hatchlings and new players but that’s how the official servers are built. Unofficials exist if you want safe zones and rules.

[terse scroll]

^

[placid shore]

That's why the devs made a server mode to prevent that

[terse scroll]

There is no need to make things so accommodating for solos when this game isn't meant to be played as a solo/progress as a solo.

[placid shore]

Don't NEED rules if GAME mechanics prevents something

[clever dew]

Yeah and there’s no reason to accommodate people in multiple server modes when one would do lol

[placid shore]

You can't progress solo in CvC, u can't elder, breed or nest

[clever dew]

It doesn’t matter and you’re missing the point we’ve made a million times dude

[robust tundra]

Suggestion has been made :3

[terse scroll]

CvC Servers
Clan vs Clan is PvP but designed for big clans. - Jao's words.

You can't make a game mode entirely made for the mega clans to play in and yet not actually have it accomodate them.

[clever dew]

It’s not about nesting or eldering it’s about how clans will abuse it

[terse scroll]

No disrespect just saying

[gusty sandal]

Guys let's please wait for Necros suggestion. A PvP won't protected pve.

[placid shore]

You're missing the same thing duddette

[gusty sandal]

GUYS CHECK IT OUT

https://discord.com/channels/576933363672285186/1203788312368914462

[clever dew]

[terse scroll]

https://tenor.com/view/tgcf-heaven-officials-blessing-tian-guan-ci-fu-xie-lian-eyebrows-gif-21892977

[rustic wigeon]

W hound for this make the server hardcore af and let the big clans slaughter each other

[next terrace]

Petition to get shrooms a new pc

[terse scroll]

I agree

[blazing notch]

Yup

[silent ether]

did your plan to get $1 from everyone not work? xD

[next terrace]

I aneed someone to set it up for me lol

[rustic wigeon]

Smort

Start your eldering service shrooms

[naive shore]

PERIODD

[fossil thunder]

Agree the red eyes no need. Gives you away. Maybe something else. The red eyes look really bad and they glow is way to much. Cheesy 🧀

Can hear really well that's a good indicator.