#Make bile attacks fair

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oak inlet
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One of DOD's crucial strategies is using the environment in your favor to help you towards victory. Sadly, some rules do not apply to all the dragons. Objects/bodies with collision can block projectiles, such as acid spits and plasma shots, which means you can use trees and other dragons to protect yourself from being hit. The thing is: fire does not follow that rule. You can hide behind the thickest tree in redwoods, or a huge rock, or maybe even tuck yourself inside a log and a Flame Stalker can still burn you from by breathing towards you from the other side of the "object".

An Acid Spitter and a Shadow Scale need to turn around said object to be able to hit the dragon behind it, while the Flame Stalker is guaranteed to put you on fire.

The same applies to dragons' bodies, which don't present collision (you can walk through them like they're a ghost) unless we're talking projectiles.

Let's think about a bite fight with ASDs around. An ASD shooting from the distance has a high chance of hitting the FSs from their group while trying to aim for the enemies (with so many bodies spinning around) while one FS can flame 360º and effortlessly flame every single dragon around.

A Flame Stalker can protect another FS standing over it, serving as a body shield against SSs trying to pelt it from above, while, for example, an ASD cannot hide itself under an FS and protect itself from the flames 'cause, unlike with projectiles, the fire phases through any body.

Flame Stalkers are already the hardest dragon to kill, and the unfairness of it's fire damaging through objects makes combat unbalanced.

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spark drift
analog sentinel
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Ehhhh i believe it has to do with the heat.. Ever stand near a fire before? I sure have.. Fire is different a different beast altogether pretty sure trees would catch fire.. And would go up in a blaze of glory and then well... You go up in a blaze of glory from the sheer heat going off a fire.. Ive been burnt by a bonfire just by standing next to it.. My skin was flaking for a week..

oak inlet
# analog sentinel Ehhhh i believe it has to do with the heat.. Ever stand near a fire before? I su...

Heat itself can ignite things within its radius. Don't even have to be near the actual flame itself so it makes sense as to why fire can sometimes just pass through things as its not a solid object unless you count liquid fire which is just lava. The flame itself may not go through an object, but it can either take a short time or a long while before the heat catches up and starts pushing through to the other side. It's why if you touch a hot glass plate, it's the top part of it that's very hot while the bottom at first would be cold temporarily since heat is slowly passing through it.

oak inlet
analog sentinel
oak inlet
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Really, what the acid should do imo is eat away not just at stamina but also if there's multiple people standing beside the one who got hit by the acid, it should splash onto them as well since it literally makes a splat upon impact.

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It's a liquid and a solid at the same time before it hits anything and evaporates

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So yes. I do believe the bile could benefit from an aoe if you were able to build up the amount of acid you're gonna spit thus making the splash larger, turning a single target into an aoe

oak inlet
strong swift
strong swift
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"in reality" plasma is Way hotter Than any fire and IT should melt through not only rock but the skin of FS like butter but we still don't see that happening either

hazy knot
strong swift
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Depending on what kind of plasma we're talking about, a simple candle flame is not hot enough to contain plasma, while ionised electricity ín a neon light is cold and still considered plasma
regardles, a flame to contain plasma needs to be thousands of degrees hot like an acetilen torch (3100 Celsius)

pliant sedge
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@strong swift I would say if you charge ASD bile for bigger splash that hit multiple dragons it would not be OP because good players can still wash it off before it does most its damage. This does depend on situation of course.

Charge bile applying two stacks on all hit, not full would be a good trade for full ASD bile bar.
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Does huge armor damage to a single target while charged but does not splash.

Either way would be a good improvement because without bile ASD is literally worthless so the trade is fair especially because ASD cannot get out of combat vs good trackers.

strong swift
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I never said IT would be op, I only talked about the plasma of the SS
I even upvoted the idea

hazy knot