#guide me through selecting what i want to be when i grow up
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thought we were just talking about medicine in switzerland vs USA js now but back to law
js your way of saying u were wrong but alr
Nice cope
yea top law
is approximately 2x harder
to get into
but the upper pay limit
is legit 3-4x higher
cope? i didnt change the subject and u have no stats to prove your point
going into medicine gives you alot higher chance to get a good 500-700k
I do
med you can just study for and practice
for law you need high pressure critical thinking
where you can barely improve that its more of a skill you learn at a young age
Anyways i have shit to do so
Nice talking to you man catch you later, was kinda fun
actually no yes in America+Canada and switzerland its easier to earn 500k in medicine but in the rest of europle (UK, France, Germany, Italy etc) its way easier in law
your acting like med doesn't have other factors making it difficult
and u can train critical thinking
you too bro
what country are you going to btw
like what tho
UK USA France or Germany not decided yet probs one of the first 2 though
like the fact answers depend on chance in med
there can be multiple diseases that fit the same symptoms
a lot of people die simply because they had a rare disease their doctor simply didn't think of
and doctors get diagnoses wrong all the time
Law also has multiple answers mutliple ways you can make your argument
but multiple of them are right
not just one
Lawyers also have more time to make their arguments
hours or even days
doctors dont always have that luxury
thinking in medicine is arguably harder
in some situations
But then you can always do a lil more diggign
its actually not that common
even if they do get a false diagnosis they bare 0 responsibility because its as good as imposisble to verify exactily what disease the person has based on pure sypmtoms
thats even IF the victims family gives consent to a surgery to even make sure what the disease is
doctors do get strikes or warnings or whatever you wanna call it when they genuinley mess up
when they diagnose something complteley unrelated
forget a medicine is expired
Cut out the wrong lung mid surgery, things they can easily haev controlled if they focused mre
Yes but they never know what arguments they're supposed to make
what if the opposing client made a very steep accusation how would you have reacted if its something thats extremley unexpected you can never be 100% prepared
what do you even learn in law lmao
like im genuinely curious not even for the sake of the argument what do you learn besides the name of offenses and all that stuff
if they have no evidence it wont hold up in a court of law you can disprove it and their integrity is immediately gone
i mean u have to know the whole law
and if u want to work in corporate law
you need a decent knowledge of economics
and law in other countries
24 and childhood in the same sentence???
your sarcasm is literally false brh
you CAN get a diploma in a 3rd world country if ur going into medicine
and go to usa easily or if not just get a six figure job
no u cant bruh
im tryna say that if you are sacrificing so much of your time from the ages of 12 to 24 i should be allowed to have a good stable career
paying above 80k a year with good working hours
maybe you right ive js seen people that have six figure job as doctors and they deadass got their diploma from pakistan
Extremely difficult its like a 4 stage processe
a lot of ppl in this server make the same mistake
they see one person do something
and think its easy
your early years
set u up to earn a lot in later years though
good a level good uni good internship etc
are what allow u to earn a lot of money
and u kinda have to do those things
24 and younger
tried to hard to defend u bro😭
yeah u probably right
the reality is how good your uni is directly decides what companies will hire you
which is in some cases uni matter more than degree
so your trying to say that if i DO end up putting like 5000-ish hours of my life into studying and all at the ages of 12-24 i will be maybe able to get a good job if i end up in a good uni?
or are you saying smt else
also you and the other dude have been at it for 400 messages straight
we were debating law vs med
if u genuinely put that much time in
you will succeed
all these unis have low acceptance rates
but u have to remember
a large amount dont have much \
other than grades
good extra/supercurriculars can genuinely set you apart
statistics don't tell the full story
your giving supercurriculars yeah?
yes
and 0 ec?
im doing both
which ec
alr yo
im thinking for my ec / sc im going to give stuff online
try to get certifications
and ill try n participate in some mat contests or some shit
is it neccesary that i win
and how much time would it take
Do at least one sport at a decent level
awards, competitions
clubs
asw as research projects
also try get on your schools school council if they have that
and some work experience
thats all u need
bold of you to assume my school knows what that means
genuinely thats like so much bro
that only useful for showing leadership
a sport can show that asw
it like rlly isnt it
im doing all that and have time for being a bum
work exp is only like what
1-3 weeks in a year
how many hours would 1-3 weeks be
research projects js do holidays
why are we measuring in hours
work experience programs are usually either
1 day
1 week
am i supposed to write 1-3 weeks on my college essay
or 2 weeks
ah
i assumed you would do something along the lines of like 2k hours
to show determination or something
wdym how bro
ye u right 🙏
thats 250 days of work exp
most work exp programs are like
8 hours a day for 1 week
u rlly overestimate
the time commitment of all those things
u can do all those things and still be a bum
isnt that also like internship
u dont have to sacrafice your whole life
similar
for triple a star im pretty sure u have to
internship is usually after uni
no
js be consistent
because your school is full of stupid people
and how come when a guy gets a singular a grade in a levels hes considered a fking genius
oh shi 🙏
makes sense lowkey
the average grade in my school is a B+
IN A LEVELS
yes
thats like crazy
9.3 percent of all A level grades awarded are A* by the way
2.3 percent of people get straight A*
its hard
but its by no means impossible
it varies by subject asw
alr
but rlly getting 3 A/A* is js about consistency
saudi arabia
uhh
im shit physically
i could do chess i guess but im 500 elo rn
do i have to be really good at the sport??
500 elo
gng i got to 500 elo in 3 weeks
yo i could escape easily if i wanted to probably
i havent played in 3-4 years
i was 500 elo at 12
decent some unis care a lot about sport so it does matter
define decent in chess
what would u think decent is for chess
bro a sport
1200 would be enough right
yo chess is a sport gng 🤣
around that preferrably a bit higher
alr what sport u giving then
what unis give sports scholarships for chess
lemme google if they even do that
dude they give for esports 🤣
chess has to be one
rugby
alright hold up
what if instead of sports
i do like calisthenics
do they accept hand stand push ups as sport
ohh wait no
YO what about rbuiks cube shit
i could get good at solving rubiks cubes
wouldnt that be helpful enough
only for elite players
no bro
Obviously
naa im not rich enough for golf
and im not very good at swimming
i can float i guess
Forget them
but not swim well
Those aren’t the kind of sports u can get at in a year or two
Think of an actual plausible sport
cant
Wdym can’t bro
theres none 🙏
How tall are you
5'6 or below
Are you fast
sports isnt really that necessary yeah
i can get faster in 1-2 years
Are you fast now
fuh naw
Nah but it felts
Oh
but i could get alot stronger in 1-2 years
but it could be possible in 1-2 years
The only sports u can rlly get good at in a year
Are like
Combat sports
Or sports where physicality or height is a big factor
you only said sports for the scholarship right
No
Unis with strong sports teams
Do consider in admissions
If your playing at a decent or high level
so what if i js get decent at calisthenics
js because theres no team play doesnt mean its not a sport
reminder that esports is also a sport
that is taken into consideration by unis
Irrelevant
okay forget sports all together
Okay
what should i do this upcoming summer break
Idk what’s available in your country
no i meant like
shld i focus on olympiad getting certificate math comps allat
or like smt else
gng what 🤣
im ahh at football
but i enjoy sports
alot
besides golf n stuff
Have you ever heard of sperm racing?
microscopic comp macroscopic stakes 🙏
Its all based on an "if" though
wow bro those are some nice numbers lmao
so when im married ill be in my childhood?
Lmao ik
LMAOO
wym by work exp? i gotta be 18 to even work at a grocerry store where i live 😭
LOL
yeah im there aswell
Like in the sector u want for example law finance and law firms give out work experience for 1 week to like 15-18 year olds
bubbles
During summer or other holidays
Yes
what uni is the other guy going to
No idea
i heard those ec stuff is in USA only
Nah
i barely hear about any other colleges requesting them
like ideal to have?
But it boosts your chances if u play high level and the uni has good sports teams
Yes
what if ur good at sports
but you dont wanna play sports 💀
like play for their team n everythin
Don’t state it
But it u say u play for like a football academy
They’ll try make u play football
ohh
Alr thanks
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what are u taking this may btw?
Maths physics bio chem English literature English language computer science DT religious studies
what are religious studies?
Religion philosophy and ethics
why are u taking them
mb didnt see the msg, biology chemistry math physics and arabic
Are u doing others at a diff time
Or just those
Yes i am
Im taking combined sciences english and human biology edexcel somewhere not sure yet
aswell as A2 bio + other a levels if i have time
Why combined science and human biology when you’re already doing all 3 sciences?😭
Fair enough though
I’m starting a levels September
Thing is i hate computer science and ict
so i really just searched for ANY subject med related that i can take lmaoo
i was considering taking coordinated sciences aswell
i mean if i get a bad mark in my arabic ill be doing coordinated instead of combined
I wasn't emphasizing on the childhood aspect, I said it fordramatic effect
My main point is that if i'm sacrificing SO much of my time from 12-24 i should be allowed to have a good stable career
Is that not the case though?
It is the case lmao
medicine is the most stable job on the planet doctors Are always needed
- They have enough pay to suffice your lifestyle even as a junior or in residency
medicine is not 12-24????
thats like till 30, 28 if you know what ur doing
and even then i'm pretty sure they get 14 hour shifts right
During residency they do
thats the part where theyre training for their final stages
and its not 14
its 10-12
equally horrible
yeah man be a content creator and film roblox montages im sure that'll get you somewhere
Doing combined science after doing all 3 sciences is legit pointless
It’s like taking higher maths
And then after doing foundation maths
yeah i know lol
i just wanna hit the 8 subject requirement for egypt
I’m mean kinda valid ig
whats your problem with engineering
whats your problem in general
He’s saying
What u want
Is an easy degree
And an easy job
And an easy way to get there
But no high earning career
Is rlly easy
Some degrees are easier
Some degrees are shorter
But none are truly easy
never said i wanted it easy
i just said i didnt wanna spend 12 years on it
and also i only really want a starting salary of above like 70k
and get married at 25 n live n npc life
thats not asking for alot
especially for the amount of work im willing to put in between the ages of 12-24
70k in what currency
u have literally no options then
what u talking abt
engineering can get you masters at like 23 ish
and get u above 70k starting salary
Not starting
what??
its around there
thats only in mid-high tier eng
Aerospace Engineering, Mechanical Engineering, Electrical Engineering, Biomedical Engineering Software Engineering, Computer Engineering, Chemical Engineering, and Petroleum Engineering.
are only ones that can realistically earn that much starting
yeah
civil engineering got high demand though
u said u want pay
exactly im sacrificing childhood in order to live a good npc life
yeah yeah
i dont wanna do civil
i wanna do aerospace
im js letting u know that civil got high demand
what a levels did u pick again
didnt pick yet
bro thinks idk this
if your aiming aero
u realistically need 4 a levels
but i will do further maths pure maths n physics
for a top uni
which are u doing then
yo hold up
i live in saudi arabia
why dont i go for chem engineering
petroleum
or smt like that
are u even good at chem
its also pretty hard to get into
im 7/10 or low 8 on every stem subject
except maths im like a 9ish at maths
ibr gng
you've deadass picked 2 of the hardest engineering degrees
and u don't seem that motivated
i mean im only at ig rn
aerospace and petroleum are both hard to get into
do u genuinely thing u can get A* in some of the hardest a levels
they're all hard but some are much harder than others
ok so what do u think i shld do
answer this
maybe im not willing to take the risk though
wdym
if your not engineering isn't for u
chem physics and further maths are some of the hardest a levels
bro besides engineering i dont haveanything
im not gonna be adoc a lawyer etc
ill js try checm phy math further maths
unless u get a 9 in ig math
dont do fm
your deadass taking one of the hardest a level combos
js become a pilot ibr
i think
being a pilot
is the only thing
that fits your criteria
who tf told u this
chatgpt 💀
are we seriously using chatgpt
not even a top 3 ai
but anyway
pilots make a lot
at any age
i dont have a problem lol
are you saudi?
being a pilot is the only thing that fits your criteria
NOOOOOO
he is
pakistani
wdym no
immigrant
Bro i swear i wanted to be a pilot when i was in like 7th grade
The flight academy is insanley expensive AND difficult
- crazy high working hours
- you need to take AL phy which is one of the hardest
but the salary is bizzare
engineering it is ig
physics isn't necessary
most of the time
its like trying to get into a med uni without a level bio
what
Ok
you know youre not paying 105k dollars for a uni bro 😭 🙏
NONE of us are
yeah
some airlines have acadamies
yh?
but your basically forced to work for that airline after
not rlly a negative tbh
being a pilot is genuinely his best option
yea but a lil risky
how?
yeah i really wanna be a pilot
how big are the work hours
but you have to be away for family for soo long
yeahh same issue w me
idk but its one of the most
might go bankrupt idk
did i not js say u can do it for free if your good enough
im talking ab the airline
idk prolly higher
its possible to transger
and dont work for some bs airline
yh
when is qatar or british airways ever gonna go bankrupt
i dont think thats gonna be easy, its very expensive for the airline to rent aircrafts and pay for gas all for a singular student
bro the acadamies take multiple
if ur smart they dont gaf
ibr
he isn't built for engineering
at least not the disciplines he wants
he said no to law
medicine
lol
yeah ik its insnae
is being a pilot
He suggested content creation 😭
Nah
i did?
Pilot is harder than engineering in my opinion
yo when did i suggest content creation
the acceptance rate is lower but its not harder
its not even opinion based bro
for good engineering
u need maths physics further maths
and a 4th a level
to be a pilot u can take bs a levels
youre LITERALLY IN THE AIR
flight schools do their own exams
and youre telling me u can take random als?
ye and
theres no way dawg
the important thing is u pass their exams
no
but it just doesnt make sense lmao
The engineer is on the floor and the mf could take all the time he wants to fix whatever hes tryna fix
but ur int he air
carrying like 100 people
its an aptitude test for pilot school
its basically an iq test
pilots dont fix planes bro
Nah they gotta calculate the air resistance and shi
u dont get it bro trust me 🥀
LOL
dont let ahmed put u off he dont know what he talking about
NO
Lwk bro js work at mcdonalds atp 😭
genuinely if i want to
i could get into pilot and engineering
not at the same time obv
see what u did bro if he tries to do engineering he will fail
what do u mean
bcz of the insane work hours
im not aboutta fail 🤣
work at a gas station
he wants to do pertroleum or aerospace
the jump from ig and alevel to uni is enormous bro
if he wanted to do civil
Petroleum isnt that hard right
he'd be fine
its very popular in saudi
yehh
theres a company called aramco
i live very close to kfupm
bottom 5 statements ive ever heard bruh
and aramco
pays decently
saudi only has 1 good university
Nah gang its easy
yk why
cuz all u gotta do is seperate the crude oil
n i live next to it
yo 😭
into parafin for jet fuel
irrelavent
bro thinks petroleum engineering is just gcse chemistry
lmaooooooooo
it is trust
petroleum isn't the kind of job your seeking
my uncle actually owns aramco bro
high paying petroleum engineering jobs are on offshore oil rigs
bros uncle brought 1 aramco stock
yeah it was 100%
Lol
i dont think so
i can get good grades in a levels
yo bro nice bio whered u get it frmo
fym u said u want low hours then picked the one discipline that works on offshore oil rigs
from my youtubr brh
ok ill do aerospace then
yea how are u gonna do that
Aerospace is also hard 😭
dont they make planes or something
name one high paying aerospace company u can work for as a pakistani citizen
bae systems uk
n go out of country
bro
u have to be a citizen of that country meaning by birth or parents
to work in defence or aerospace
in that country
your not from france germany UK or USA
which is where all these high paying aerospace jobs are
ok what else is there
ok ill do mech engineering
too risky
he was joking
oh
they dont make 70k starting in your country
its unstable asl
it does make good money if you make it big n everything
not if u go popiular
not for shorts
yes "just be part of the 0.01" percent of youtubers that succeed ah statement
LMAOO
like oh bro js make it to the nba
js make it to the premier league
js become a top paid actor
yeah
its ez
Ehh i could do it if i want to
but gotta give others a chance n everyhting
@nimble cloud
i meant at like 9 and shit
ON THE CONTRARY
Lmao i stole vids from instagram since their humour was a bit more advanced
LMAOOOO
js become a pilot
search me up bro im called "Bad seed media"
its the only thing
Had an ai give me the name
that fits what u want
Spent 20 mins making the logo aswell 🥀
deadah being a pilot is the only thing that fits this guys rules
it doesnt
you said not to go into engineering
only bcz u think im gonna fail
how
right?
be a mall security guard
no
or is there another reason
because
he said he dont want long hours
they work long days but less days
long hours means 12 hours a shift btw
the average is 35-40 hours a week
for a pilot
but they might be on duty for a few more
on flight or out of country
flying
like are u talking about 35 hours in the air or 35 out of country
obviously flying
yea thats what i mean vro
im not here to discuss other retiring bs
js help u pick a career
Yes and he said he doesnt want long hours bro 😭
dont have energy for that
he can compromise
also
short haul
can be only 8 hours on shift
pilot is legit the only one that works for him
what if i give maths further math phy chem in a levels
and theenn go pilot
is that evn possible
hardest a level combo btw
obviously it is
doesnt matter brhhhhhhh
u really think ts guy can compromise for his own life bro 🙏
lmao
ts guy cant do fm
i cant set him up to fail bro
i swear it was him that told me there was like one A in his whole school or sum
guy talking about maths further maths chem physics
whats the issue
u made it very clear u dont wanna compromise
yo but u are right
on any of your set rules
WHATS THE ISSUE??
bcz my school is full of dkheads
TWIN U SET 20 CONDITIONS FOR YOUR JOB
ONLY FOR MEDICAL
are u saying you are the smartest person in your school
do you know how shitty medical is in my perspective
THEN DO ENGINEERING
u refused for finance and law
ENGINEERING
FINANCE
dont listen to ahmed
Dude hes genuinley helpless
pls js ignore ahmed if he says engineering again
Theres no easy profession
finance: i dont wanna be homeless
law: 12 years
doctor: 12 years aswell
ik but theres easier js let me help him
also law is like
Lord save you bro
really hard probably
ahmed your js making this convo take longer
and i dont want to do law
yeah what do you recommend
ok what do u recommend
finance wont make u homeless law isnt 12
top 3 smartest people in my school probably
finance is your best option if your any good at maths
for finance your only taking 2 hard a levels
i really really really dont wanna give business its so fking easy and makes me feel dumb
who tf said buisness
take economics
buisness is a bs subject
i dont know anything at all abt the finance sector ive been wanting to go into engineering since i was like 9
idk jack sht about finance
engineering doesnt fit your rules
it isnt high paying enough
which rule specifically
and incredibly difficult
its high paying enough
this was never in my rules
u dont know anything about engineering either
isn't high paying enough yea
u cant do aerospace
petroleum is long hours
on offshore oil rigs most likely
meaning away from home
bro
pls
stop suggesting
the hardest sht
why
the starting wage isn't 70k
and the acceptance rate
is incredibly low
look
either
u drop one of your stupid ah rules
or your gonna have to try get into a USA uni
to hit that 70k
pilot is genuinely
the only thing that fits
wait nvm
u cant even do nuclear in US
are you seriously saying that im asking for too much
yes
70k graduate
is extremely high
with all your other rules applied?
and living in saudi?
what country
the only other rule is no studying till 32 and no 12 hr shifts
canada is probably the best option but it could change in the future
petroleum aerospace and nuclear (the really high paying ones) legit aren't possible for you
u said nobody in your ass school has ever got an A*
to acc get a high paying job in engineering a good uni is needed
meaning
good grades
meaning A*s
I'm not studying from my school anyways, nobody does
regardless u gotta drop down to at least 40k realistically
we all fk around in class and have tutors at home
ok and then what
no wonder your all stupid
u want me to go into civil??
i swear to god
go into whatever u want
js not aero nuclear petroleum
or anything else with security checks
wym security checks
basically jobs u need to be a citizen of that country for
i kinda agree with @obsidian vessel now
your rules
are completely unrealistic
expecting to earn 70k
okay bro
im js slightly misguided
cuz
i thought that shit like psychology majors
earn 40k a year
at graduate
i thought 40k a year is super duper low
no
for anything other than some engineering disciplines finance law or med
thats normal
bro ibr js do finance atp
take maths further maths economics accounting
i know im capable of engineering though so why take the risk of finance
not earning what u want
for finance im practically locked into either get into a top uni or jump off a bridge
ITS THE SAME SHIT WITH ENGINEERING
,
like holy bro
u have a warped perception of the whole education system and job market
where do u get ur info from
yeah im realizing now
research
like gng
pilots dont earn 70k graduate
u cant js say research bro elaborate
is bottom 5 statements
info for what specifically
salaries, uni admission requirements, ec requirements
are we serious
uni admission requirements?
the university websites?
ucas?
yes a level grades
salaries is obvious theres stats on it
and u can js look at jobs
at diff companies
ec is just common sense
what do u think u write about in personal statement
dont do engineering
if u need anything else
i can help u
but career wise
your only option is being a pilot
as engineering law finance med
dont fit your rules
there isn't an engineering a level
name one discipline of engineering that fits your rule
maths further maths n physics
legit name one
yea how mate
if not ill js figure it out at uni time
uhh
qatar airways
i will email them
and ask for a job
alr wait
i have to actually lock inn
your hopeless
theres no way all of your guys information can be true
what do u think
is wrong
name one thing i've said
which is wrong
why is it that
everyone encourages you
to go into uni and all
and get a good job
and say that its the most secure route for life
and now that im trying to do that
because it is
its so fkng risky hard n low paying
HOW IS IT
SECURE
AT ALL
EVERY SINGLE CAREER PATH HAS HEAVY CONS
it isnt risky or low paying
thats if u work for a bad company
thats for a bad company
the only thing thats bs is expecting to earn 70k graduate doing the bare minimum
i dont think u understand how competitive the engineering jobs that earn 70k are
bare minimum????????????????????????????????/
4 a* in the hardest combo
for a levels
and then 4 years of uni