i dont have any favourite subjects, i dont have any subjects in my blacklist (except computer science), i want a good hefty paying job without having to go into school for 12 years, i'm pretty good at studying, i didnt give any a1 or a2 yet and im finishing my ig this mj 2026.
my igs are: physics maths english as a second language (will give ielts) chem and ict 0417
#guide me through selecting what i want to be when i grow up
nimble cloud
vivid robin
i dont have any favourite subjects, i dont have any subjects in my blacklist (ex...
Do you have any particular field/career youre interested or looking towards?
nimble cloud
nah
vivid robin
Like engineering, medical, aviation, etc?
vivid robin
True
nimble cloud
same reason
i'm not willing to spend my 20's to mid 30's studying just for financial freedom
vivid robin
Same here
nimble cloud
and this "financial freedom" is also 14 hour type of work loads
like im not doing allat the jobs gonna be stressful IM gonna be stressed
is it even worth the money when the only thing thats gonna be spent is on ur family n spoiled kids who wont meet their fathers for 5 out of 7 days
vivid robin
Bro went a little too deep into thinking
First of all list your proclivities and interests
Whatever they may be
From within your chosen subjects
You could use AI to shortlist some fields
And then pick out the ones you think would suit you
If you want to move abroad, the choices might vary from the ones you might do at home
nimble cloud
You could use AI to shortlist some fields
i am NOT using ai to choose my career
nimble cloud
First of all list your proclivities and interests
i dont think i have any besides like gaming
studying is like a chore for me but i'm good at it
and ive done a good amount of hobbies i feel like
i went into rubiks cubes n all chess n tons more
it was fun but i always enjoyed video games more
i don't have any subject i prefer over the other besides like comp sci cuz i hate even the thought of going into comp science
vivid robin
i am NOT using ai to choose my career
Didnt ask you to. I said to do some research on different fields
vivid robin
i dont think i have any besides like gaming
On second thoughts, you're still doing IGCSEs so you've got enough time to think it out and consider a field as you still have A levels left
I've seen many people in A levels turn a 180° from the choices they made during O levels
So id suggest giving yourself some time to figure out your grades and where you stand after IGCSEs
nimble cloud
yeh but im so lost
like no clear path on what i wanna do
like this is the future job i want:
1: first lets js get rid of everything low pay, im not gonna define low pay i js wanna be able to live comfortable
2: i dont wanna study till pHd or get specialization or do some doctor/lawyer/pilot thing that will take me many years
3: i dont want to spend 12 hours a day working for 6 days of the week
vivid robin
like this is the future job i want:
1: first lets js get rid of everything low p...
Literally everyone wants high pay with less work bro
You have to work for it if you want to get paid good
Nothings cheap and easy anymore. At least not in this age and economy
Most high paying jobs require you to study and get some considerable level of education
Dont close all your roads even before you've tried them. First accept the fact that you'll have to work hard, at least in the beginning if not your whole life. Everyone has to
Id suggest armed forces (my plan) for financial stability at a young age but you dont wanna work
nimble cloud
Literally everyone wants high pay with less work bro
"less work" gng i js want less work hours im willing to study for it now in order to make up in the future
in order to relax in the future
by work i meant JOB work not STUDY work
im down to study 15 hours daily for 5 days straight
if it means i have a good job that fits everything i asked
nimble cloud
Id suggest armed forces (my plan) for financial stability at a young age but you...
whats armed forces?
vivid robin
by work i meant JOB work not STUDY work
I know that. I also meant job
vivid robin
in order to relax in the future
Lemme remind you there are millions of well educated people without jobs in the world right now. Extra study hours dont guarantee you a job, let alone a high paying one with minimal working hours. So you'd have to take your chances
nimble cloud
Military
what does going into military grant you
would it take years
also what military r u talk abt specifically
vivid robin
what does going into military grant you
Depends on your country tbh
Where are you from
vivid robin
also what military r u talk abt specifically
Army
Could be navy or air force as well
vivid robin
Ah
Well the Army is one of the most sought after professions in Pak as far as I know
Especially seeing the current state of the country
They pay pretty good too there
Could be a very good option if you consider choosing a profession within Pak
Army basically runs Pak unofficially at this point
vivid robin
what does going into military grant you
Good chance of financial stability at a young age, secure job, really good facilities and health care are some features.
There are cons as well such as political involvement, risk of life and so on
surreal dove
Good chance of financial stability at a young age, secure job, really good facil...
"risk of life" is a great pro isn't it
vivid robin
"risk of life" is a great pro isn't it
Lol, meant con. Too sleepy rn
nimble cloud
Could be a very good option if you consider choosing a profession within Pak
I'm thinking of running to canada and getting the passport
but that likely wotn be an option by the time its my turn to be an adult
so ill look for something similar
im not looking forward to staying in pakistan
vivid robin
but that likely wotn be an option by the time its my turn to be an adult
Seeing the visa rates, yes thats true
vivid robin
I'm thinking of running to canada and getting the passport
Are there good options in Riyadh or Jeddah
nimble cloud
no way im getting the saudi passport
vivid robin
Any field
vivid robin
no way im getting the saudi passport
No Im just asking
vivid robin
idk how do i check
Like, fellow students? Or just basically the field there's high demands for?
nimble cloud
Like, fellow students? Or just basically the field there's high demands for?
im not trusting 16 year olds bro
vivid robin
Maybe consult your teachers
nimble cloud
that get their primary info from tiktok
vivid robin
Are you in riyadh
nimble cloud
Maybe consult your teachers
there is a reason they are teaching in a horrid school
nimble cloud
Are you in riyadh
nah im in dammam which is like pretty big
vivid robin
Ah
nimble cloud
like third biggest region after jeddah and riyadh prolly
vivid robin
Yeah
acoustic axle
You could choose electrical engineering but you don’t like cs
balmy hare
Pakistan
takes 5 years there, 1 year residency which u get paid for
uni is cheap
just go to the US or europe after residency
ull be making 6 figures by 23-24
depending on what u get into in medicine u can be working 40 hour weeks, still making the same as other specialities
nimble cloud
You could choose electrical engineering but you don’t like cs
im down to go electrical engieering
i js dont like cs cuz of the fact that the job market is REALLY REALLY messd up
nimble cloud
takes 5 years there, 1 year residency which u get paid for
what is residency?
nimble cloud
uni is cheap
idk if i wanna go to uni in pakistan, ill end up as a teacher or something bro
acoustic axle
i js dont like cs cuz of the fact that the job market is REALLY REALLY messd up
If your a low level code writer your gonna get replaced by ai😭
nimble cloud
If your a low level code writer your gonna get replaced by ai😭
ig
nimble cloud
depending on what u get into in medicine u can be working 40 hour weeks, still m...
40 hour work weeks is so low bro
but like medicine takes 12 years brah
acoustic axle
It’s no big deal you should just lean into whatever hobby you have. I enjoy cameras and tech and now I’m making a startracker form scratch
nimble cloud
It’s no big deal you should just lean into whatever hobby you have. I enjoy came...
how much would that make u
in money
nimble cloud
good luck to you bro how do u plan on earning from it though
lime pulsar
Guysssssss
Pls help
Idk if I should become a doctor or not
Like, currently I have two very different options : doctor and director. And doctor means full on dedication and idk if I'll enjoy being a doctor and yeah
But on the other hand, I wanna use my brains to help ppl
vivid robin
Breh
lime pulsar
I have a passion for directing but since that isn't a stable job, I plan on doing it later when I have money and scripts
vivid robin
Do what suits you the most
Theres an age for doctor but not for a director, so you could do it later anyways
lime pulsar
Theres an age for doctor but not for a director, so you could do it later anyway...
Yeahh true
vivid robin
Direct a surgery or smth
vivid robin
Pulmonary veins and CUT
lime pulsar
Pulmonary veins and CUT
KABOOM
vivid robin
Did you do a and as level??
Doing AS
lime pulsar
Ohhh dayummm noice
lime pulsar
Def not a director
Lol your ideas will definitely make it hit 🤣
vivid robin
Yes
balmy hare
what is residency?
meant house job, its only a year, u gotta do it after med school. think of it as an internship. you start getting paid. right after you can move to anywhere, like the US. same thing in US can be upto 7 years, thats why its longer there
balmy hare
idk if i wanna go to uni in pakistan, ill end up as a teacher or something bro
... dude
balmy hare
but like medicine takes 12 years brah
if your in the US then yes
where you get your degree doesnt affect your pay in medicine btw
balmy hare
if your in the US then yes
4y pre med, 4y med, 4y residency
you can skip allat, just do specialisation in a good country like the us or uk or anywhere except pakistan and youll get great pay
you have a great job market asw
nimble cloud
where you get your degree doesnt affect your pay in medicine btw
i never said i wanted to go into medicine
nimble cloud
i dont think words can express my hate for medicine
it is genuinely (for me atleast) the worst career field by far
12 years just for you to have to work 120000 hours in a week minimum is insane
even without the hours 12 years for financial freedom is asking too much
naive trellis
if your european or american think abt doing education for your undergrad and then work somewhere in asia, the pay is considered low back at home but living in asia is generally really cheap so it pays off, and leaving an impact on students is really rewarding.
balmy hare
even without the hours 12 years for financial freedom is asking too much
Isnt 12 years bruh
U do u tho
chilly current
What about finance?
rose cape
What about finance?
dont you have to take accounting in order to take finance
not sure tho
fallen lily
shld i js go into content creation
i think you should have your main job and then do it on the side until it is stable enough for you to quit your job
unless obviously if your parents is rich then you could just do exclusively content creation and focus on it
fallen lily
what in finance specificially
are you cracked at maths
like doing olympaids and avg 95-100 in maths and add maths
nimble cloud
like doing olympaids and avg 95-100 in maths and add maths
idk wht any of that is
im good at maths bro
oh yeah i do avg 95-100 easily at school and stuff
idk what an olympiad or add maths is
i mean like if ur gonna tell stuff like "finance needs u to be good at maths bro" like ik allat
but i appreciate any advice
chilly current
but i appreciate any advice
a job in finance is like accounting and shi
fallen lily
idk wht any of that is
different olympaids and competition separates people who are good in school to people who would land job in quant and stuff
thats why I was trying to ask
fallen lily
idk what an olympiad or add maths is
add maths is the harder module for igcse maths
it's not that hard to do good in normal maths at ig, so I was trying to ask if you take add maths
fallen lily
i mean like if ur gonna tell stuff like "finance needs u to be good at maths bro...
I was trying to get you into software engineering or research role in finance that's why I was trying to find out if you were absolutely cracked
bc those jobs can make banks out of uni
nimble cloud
Im assuming software engineering has to do with coding right
is it like computer science or pretty different
dw abt my maths i can handle tough stuff
nimble cloud
it's not that hard to do good in normal maths at ig, so I was trying to ask if y...
i can grasp normal math topics very easily, before tests i only need to revise it if i didit a long time ago
but thats ig maths
i could handle add maths for sure tho
but why software engineering and not like petroleum or nuclear engineering instead
fallen lily
but why software engineering and not like petroleum or nuclear engineering inste...
software engineering could land you better pay if you work in finance
fallen lily
i could handle add maths for sure tho
can you find a way to takew it, you def need it if you want any chance of getting into any mathematical subjects for top unis
at least in the uk
fallen lily
i could handle add maths for sure tho
it's quite easy actually but it is useful in a sense that it helps take a big load off for your a level maths
since the pure maths paper is very similar to add maths
some people say some of the questions are identical
nimble cloud
can you find a way to takew it, you def need it if you want any chance of gettin...
ill try to take it in grade 11
fallen lily
ill try to take it in grade 11
Grade 11 you need to already be doing AS level further maths if you want to keep up the pace
What I think you can do is, the break after igcse just speedrun the syllabus and take it October November this year
nimble cloud
ok
nimble cloud
wait
am i getting catfished
whats the difference between software engineering and computer science
also: why not just take smt like petroleum engineering instead, or nuclear engineering
what is the difference in those 2 and software engineering
sharp oracle
also: why not just take smt like petroleum engineering instead, or nuclear engin...
petroleum and nuclear engineers are very well paid
and its a stable sector
sharp oracle
whats the difference between software engineering and computer science
software engineering is more like applying the principles to design and develop
cs is much more theory based
cs has a lot more maths
neither software engineering or cs is worth taking rn ngl
sharp oracle
dont you have to take accounting in order to take finance
no
accounting isnt even a respected a level rlly
best things for finance are maths further maths statistics and economics
nimble cloud
neither software engineering or cs is worth taking rn ngl
why?
and also where are you guys getting all this information from anyways
sharp oracle
why?
lack of jobs your only getting hired if u do a great internship or go to a top 5 uni
whats your actual goal
what career
nimble cloud
i dont have any favourite subjects, i dont have any subjects in my blacklist (ex...
.
sharp oracle
.
what country u in
if u only care about money
and job stability
do aerospace engineering
nimble cloud
do aerospace engineering
ah
alright
but the other dude said software engineering
and also why not other engineerings
what makes them all dfiferent
sharp oracle
but the other dude said software engineering
a lot of ppl in this server dont know what they're talking about
sharp oracle
what makes them all dfiferent
they work on and with different things
diff disciplines
like in medicine right
u become a doctor then specialise
sharp oracle
I HATE MEDICINE
u get what im saying though rught
nimble cloud
i shouldve added that to the blacklist
sharp oracle
*right
nimble cloud
kind of yeah
nimble cloud
its like
nimble cloud
petrol is chemistry engineering aerospace is physics engineer
sharp oracle
anyways the reason i say aerospace
sharp oracle
petrol is chemistry engineering aerospace is physics engineer
no
wrong
they're all physics
nimble cloud
oh
sharp oracle
petroleum is just physics+chemistry
nimble cloud
how do u know so much
sharp oracle
how do u know so much
ive researched
nimble cloud
what is defense sector
nimble cloud
ive researched
do u wanna be a aerospace engineer when u grow up
sharp oracle
but u dont have to do defence
nimble cloud
yeah i got it
sharp oracle
u can do js commercial planes sattelites
sharp oracle
do u wanna be a aerospace engineer when u grow up
yes
anyway
aerospace is the most job secure
and due to having the most maths
a move into high finance
is very possible
its easiest to get a job with
nimble cloud
i dont really care that much abt finance
sharp oracle
- one of the highest paying jobs
sharp oracle
i dont really care that much abt finance
regardless
sharp oracle
aerospace engineers earn a lot
nimble cloud
how many years will it take
nimble cloud
like 4 years is average
oh so im 15 rn in grade 10
if i graduate high school at 17 go to uni at 18
sharp oracle
oh so im 15 rn in grade 10
i mean the university is 4 years
nimble cloud
thats fking insaneeeeee
sharp oracle
but yea aerospace
sharp oracle
is by far the most secure engineering sector
nimble cloud
aight aight
nimble cloud
what are the bad parts abt it btw
nimble cloud
have diff working weeks/working hours
im aware
sharp oracle
what are the bad parts abt it btw
if your not good at maths
u wont get in
u need A* in normal maths
nimble cloud
oh so do i have to do add maths
sharp oracle
minimum A
sharp oracle
oh so do i have to do add maths
all engineering needs maths
nimble cloud
na ik that
im js asking like
add maths isnt a requirement in ig or a levels
so i didnt give it yet
im thinking of starting as soon as my ig ends
and giving it oct nov this year
sharp oracle
for it u need maths and physics
then for 3rd subject
do
further maths
or statistics or dt
if u dont wanna do fm
electronics is also decent
nimble cloud
but fm is best right
sharp oracle
but fm is best right
yes but a lot of schools only allow u fm if u do 4
but if u can do it w 3 a level
thats great
nimble cloud
why tho wtf
nimble cloud
yes but a lot of schools only allow u fm if u do 4
why do schools do that
sharp oracle
why do schools do that
cause it makes u limited
if your js doing maths and physics
only do it if your deadset on engineering
if your not deadset
either do 4
or swap further maths for economics or statistics
sharp oracle
what is there to do besides engineering
finance law medicine
nimble cloud
not into either of those 3
finance ill likely die unemployed (ts is satire dont come at me anyone)
law and medicine require me to be 32 when i graduate
sharp oracle
finance ill likely die unemployed (ts is satire dont come at me anyone)
this is only if u dont go to a good uni
best thing to do is degree apprenticeship but thats another topic
sharp oracle
law and medicine require me to be 32 when i graduate
law is more like 25 but the amount of money u earn once your fully qualified is worth it
nimble cloud
law is more like 25 but the amount of money u earn once your fully qualified is ...
oh
so whats stopping u from going into law
sharp oracle
so whats stopping u from going into law
i prefer engineering im better at stem than humanities
top law is much harder to get into
for example with engineering
if u go mid uni for bachelors
going to a top uni for your masters
sharp oracle
can still save you
nimble cloud
lmaooo
nimble cloud
ALL humanities are hard for me
sharp oracle
even history isnt hard
sharp oracle
ALL humanities are hard for me
are u good at stem?
nimble cloud
going to a top uni for your masters
wait but how would that work
since like
if u going to a mid uni for bachelor wont that mean ur not capable of going into a top uni for masters
sharp oracle
if u going to a mid uni for bachelor wont that mean ur not capable of going into...
no
nimble cloud
and wont getting a masters degree equate to the fact that u will graduate at like 26
nimble cloud
are u good at stem?
10x better at stem than humanities
sharp oracle
and wont getting a masters degree equate to the fact that u will graduate at lik...
masters is only 1 extra year
nimble cloud
masters is only 1 extra year
oh thats worth it ig right
considering the increased salary
sharp oracle
oh thats worth it ig right
extremely worth it
u cant become a chartered engineering
without masters
nimble cloud
wdym charteered
nimble cloud
ok lmao
nimble cloud
if u going to a mid uni for bachelor wont that mean ur not capable of going into...
,
nimble cloud
what?
nimble cloud
OH
sharp oracle
in the rankings
nimble cloud
like top 10-30 uni in the world??
sharp oracle
like top 10-30 uni in the world??
im talking uk rankings
rn
but
in the world
aim top 100
at lowest
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sharp oracle
realistically though
almost all good unis
are in europe australia singapore
japan or china
nimble cloud
not in us?
sharp oracle
yea and US obvi
sharp oracle
idk how im gonna get there with the pakistani passport
study visa
nimble cloud
which passport do u have
sharp oracle
UK and kenya
nimble cloud
study visa
that still has a risk of not working
sharp oracle
might get US soon
nimble cloud
oh u have uk and kenya??
sharp oracle
one of the best things u can have
nimble cloud
alright
sharp oracle
yeh is it bcz of trump
nothing to do with trump
its simply because so many people want them
nimble cloud
ohh
nimble cloud
switzerland is super expensive
sharp oracle
australia france japan secondary
sharp oracle
switzerland is super expensive
true but
if u can afford
or get scholarship
its one of the best
and its only bc
nimble cloud
not talking abt scholarship i meant in general
sharp oracle
salaries in switzerland
nimble cloud
their economy is sooo bad
sharp oracle
are much higher than anywhere in the world
sharp oracle
their economy is sooo bad
lol what
nimble cloud
ah
sharp oracle
swiss economy is one of the best
nimble cloud
lol what
i meant like
from a tourism perspective
from an outsiders perspective
i didnt know engineering majors are allowed to have side job
sharp oracle
from a tourism perspective
their salaries are some of the highest in the world so obvi stuff is more expensive there
sharp oracle
i didnt know engineering majors are allowed to have side job
no uni can stop u from having a side job
nimble cloud
not "allowed" sorry
sharp oracle
their salaries are some of the highest in the world so obvi stuff is more expens...
quality of life in switzerland
sharp oracle
is one of the best in the world
nimble cloud
ABLE to have side jobs
nimble cloud
quality of life in switzerland
sounds sweet
sharp oracle
ABLE to have side jobs
best thing is degree apprenticeship tbf
sharp oracle
let me google it
okay
nimble cloud
OH i saw it
wait so
would the university count that as studying??
when ur working
sharp oracle
would the university count that as studying??
the employer has a partnership with the uni
u work like 60 percent or 80 percent of the time
and are in uni 20-40 percent of the time
u learn both at uni and by doing the job
u still have to pass the uni exams
nimble cloud
yeah but it says its only till like uk
sharp oracle
yeah but it says its only till like uk
other countries have similar programs
nimble cloud
when u can only spend 20% time studying
sharp oracle
bruh obvi
u can spend more time at home
its like u go uni 20 percent of days
and job 80 percent
but the good ones are extremely competitive
as hard to get into as oxford and cambridge
nimble cloud
so wont the exams be like 5x harder for u then since u dont spend alot of time ACTUALLY studying
nimble cloud
as hard to get into as oxford and cambridge
oh so i probably wont get it then
maybe
probably
im not into that ig
sounds too tough
sharp oracle
so wont the exams be like 5x harder for u then since u dont spend alot of time A...
no
sharp oracle
sounds too tough
the grade requirement
is a bit lower
but they care a lot about
extra curriculars
nimble cloud
yeah im not built for that then lol
sharp oracle
yeah im not built for that then lol
its legit more about effort than how smart u are
nimble cloud
ill probably stick to a small part time job
nimble cloud
its legit more about effort than how smart u are
dude if its competetive then im super duper fked
sharp oracle
dude if its competetive then im super duper fked
a lot of ppl apply
but get auto rejected
bc of no extra curriculars
failed interview
nimble cloud
and no its not abt effort when ur going against a kid whos entire life revolves around harvard and camrbdige
sharp oracle
etc
sharp oracle
and no its not abt effort when ur going against a kid whos entire life revolves ...
it is about effort
nimble cloud
a lot of ppl apply
i mean like the people that DO pass are like sweats bro
sharp oracle
i mean like the people that DO pass are like sweats bro
u dont understand
somebody with ABB + great extra curriculars
has a better thance than the one with A* A* A*
No extra curriculars
extra curriculars is js spending your time
and effort
nimble cloud
are u talking regarding degree apprenticeship or just getting into uni in general
or both
sharp oracle
are u talking regarding degree apprenticeship or just getting into uni in genera...
degree apprenticeship
for uni most of the good ones
A* A A
is the bare minimum
but extra curriculars
nimble cloud
a* a a and no extra curriculars?
sharp oracle
aren't weighted a lot or necessary
sharp oracle
a* a a and no extra curriculars?
no
nimble cloud
ah alright
wait so what do u think are great extracurriculars
in my case
and which ec are u going for
sharp oracle
and which ec are u going for
im doing gold crest
arkwright scholarship
cansat
maths challenge
physics challenge
young minds essay competition
work experience
stem racing
sharp oracle
basically
any kind of engineering maths or physics related
opportunity
do it
awards are very helpful asw
nimble cloud
what should i do right now then
where do i look for those kinds of opportunities
yo hold up
i dont have to sacrifice my whole life for ts
sharp oracle
where do i look for those kinds of opportunities
your school u can do some at home
nimble cloud
my whole childhood*
nimble cloud
since like
sharp oracle
most of these dont take long
nimble cloud
degree apprenticeship is optional
sharp oracle
degree apprenticeship is optional
in this job market
if u dont do a DA or go top uni
your cooked
nimble cloud
your school u can do some at home
alr wait can we talk abt ec in dms
sharp oracle
alr wait can we talk abt ec in dms
alr
balmy hare
law and medicine require me to be 32 when i graduate
u can finish residency and become a specialised doctor making 6 figures by 26-27, thats if u dont go to the US, where they have extra stuff like undergrad + where u go to uni doesnt affect ur pay so u have more flexibility of where to study. 40-50 hour weeks, benefits, great salary
but ur not interested in medicine
u could go into aviation, become a commercial pilot
u get to travel the world, get great pay
and doesnt take as long
and its much easier than engineering medicine wtv
nimble cloud
and doesnt take as long
do you really fully understand what you are trying to convey
i can work as a pilot starting at 25 but i will be making 25k at most
then 5 years in i start making 300k~ easily an year
and also its not that easy + i have to work LONG hours
when i was a kid i wanted to do that but genuinely after research its js like being a doctor but slightly better
balmy hare
i can work as a pilot starting at 25 but i will be making 25k at most
u graduate at 18, takes around 2 years to get a commercial license, then you build on ur flight hours for another 2 years, in 4 years or by 22, you can start flying commercial
and u wont be making 25k
seriously do some research
balmy hare
and u wont be making 25k
starting salaries are around 50-80k USD
its much more chill then tryna become a doctor, easier job, similar pay.
sharp oracle
but ur not interested in medicine
majority of ppl aren't cut out for med tbh
sharp oracle
u graduate at 18, takes around 2 years to get a commercial license, then you bui...
itsn't flight school incredibly expensive though
balmy hare
itsn't flight school incredibly expensive though
it can be
sharp oracle
which is why a lot of ppl becom pilots when they're older
sharp oracle
it can be
idt u can even get student loans for flight school
tbh u could js do a joint degree with pilot studies
and work while accumulating flight hours
till u become a pilot
balmy hare
hmm
sharp oracle
aerospace engineering with pilot studies
and they give u flight hours in the degree
js need to do a few more once u graduate
idk what other join degrees there are
with pilot studies
balmy hare
was thinking of it, but then thought i wanted a bit more settled life
sharp oracle
was thinking of it, but then thought i wanted a bit more settled life
same
dont wanna be flying all over the world all the time
icl
in my opinion
9-5 weekday job
isnt that bad
sharp oracle
actually id prefer if it to start earlier
same id rather like 7-3
ill never understand ppl that hate on 9-5s ngl
theres not rlly much better options
balmy hare
yeahhh
nimble cloud
seriously do some research
Alright i guess
nimble cloud
ill never understand ppl that hate on 9-5s ngl
7-3 solos 9-5 so easily
matter of fact i'd go 5-1 if i could
sharp oracle
matter of fact i'd go 5-1 if i could
waking up at 4am everyday
nimble cloud
js sleep at 9:30 it aint allat
u get 8 whole ass hours to urself
n get back while sun is still up
obsidian vessel
like this is the future job i want:
1: first lets js get rid of everything low p...
just give up lil bro you must sacrifice somethig to get a "super high paying job and study for like 5 years max and work 6 hours a day 4 days a week" this is like a toddler begging
nimble cloud
just give up lil bro you must sacrifice somethig to get a "super high paying job...
alright what do you wanna be then
didnt know that i cant js have a good career now
sharp oracle
just give up lil bro you must sacrifice somethig to get a "super high paying job...
Bro js hating
balmy hare
just give up lil bro you must sacrifice somethig to get a "super high paying job...
i half agree
no offense
sharp oracle
i half agree
Only med and law in the US require hella years of school
He js wants like a 9-5 weekday job
That pays well
With not excessive years of uni
It’s not unreasonable
No need to be hating on this guy
sharp oracle
ig finance could work
Finance end engineering work
But only certain jobs in finance
Which are pretty hard to get ngl
balmy hare
yeah
sharp oracle
fiance
high finance is extremely hard to get into though
ppl go into it thinking there gonna be doing IB at goldman sachs or JPMorgan
and end up doing accounting
echo kite
and end up doing accounting
yeah bro i dont think imma get into jp morgan and goldman with straight b's in igcse
sharp oracle
yeah bro i dont think imma get into jp morgan and goldman with straight b's in i...
yea ibr majority of ppl who go into finance have a completely warped perception of what they gonna be doing
echo kite
hopfully from some other company 
echo kite
yea ibr majority of ppl who go into finance have a completely warped perception ...
yeah fair
sharp oracle
hopfully from some other company <:sobpraying:1362848173495812309>
its something like only 5-10 percent of finance graduates end up in Investment backing quant private equity and hedge funds
echo kite
its something like only 5-10 percent of finance graduates end up in Investment b...
yeah exactly
i wanna do hedge
or pe
but with these grades im not too sure
echo kite
yea gng u gotta get into like lse oxbridge
yeah or wharton
sharp oracle
or top swiss unis
echo kite
wharton is js part of UPenn
yes
echo kite
its first for MBA/postgraduate
oh hell naw
echo kite
i deadahh thought its 1
whats the tier list
and can i do under grad from top 1 and then do mba from wharton or something
sharp oracle
whats the tier list
echo kite
thats if i can admission from any of those lmao
sharp oracle
and can i do under grad from top 1 and then do mba from wharton or something
u dont rlly need mba for finance
what a levels u taking
echo kite
u dont rlly need mba for finance
yeah but just to be safe
sharp oracle
or planning to take
echo kite
what a levels u taking
business accounts maths (stats and pure)
i should have take eco
sharp oracle
i should have take eco
yea ibr i got no idea why u chose buisness over con
echo kite
yea ibr i got no idea why u chose buisness over con
whats ibr
echo kite
and yeah i dropped it before i dont know why 
sharp oracle
how far into a level are u
echo kite
ill be real
yeah dude what are u planning on doing
echo kite
how far into a level are u
im in as rn planning on giving the m/j v2
i heard its better to give both in a levels
if i get bad marks ill give it both again
sharp oracle
im in as rn planning on giving the m/j v2
your doing a level this summer?
Maths Physics Further maths and BTEC engineering
echo kite
your doing a level this summer?
as level
sharp oracle
is what im starting next year
sharp oracle
and u know more about finance than me
ive js researched a lot
sharp oracle
ive done 0 research
if its still possible
echo kite
he says inshallah ill get into harvard if i work hard
sharp oracle
I'd change your sub choices tbh
echo kite
claude is better
claude is good ash but its limit is so low
echo kite
I'd change your sub choices tbh
what would u pick
sharp oracle
what would u pick
maths further maths econ for 3 a levels
Maths further maths econ physics/cs for 4 a levels
echo kite
Maths further maths econ physics/cs for 4 a levels
physics for finance?
and whats the point of taking futher maths for finance tho
the main thing is stats
sharp oracle
the main thing is stats
Most schools dont offer Statistics a level so I js didnt mention it its also js obsolete if u take all the statistics topics in normal/further maths
top finance degrees are esentially js applied maths
which is what physics is asw
theres a reason why for things like quant engineering graduates actually get the jobs more than finance graduates
and thats why
maths physics fm econ
is the best combo
drop physics if doing 3
echo kite
oh
its too late for that now tho
can i take futher maths in a levels if i didnt take it in as?
sharp oracle
can i take futher maths in a levels if i didnt take it in as?
yes
in UK most ppl js do a levels at end of y2
sharp oracle
they dont even take AS
echo kite
they dont even take AS
yeah but they have 2 years to do it
sharp oracle
but i will have to work my ahh off
u want to go finance at a top 5 uni....
echo kite
i will only have 1
echo kite
u want to go finance at a top 5 uni....
yes but because of my igcse grade idt its gonna happen
sharp oracle
yeah but they have 2 years to do it
no they do normal maths all in year 1 and further maths all in year 2
echo kite
no they do normal maths all in year 1 and further maths all in year 2
ohhhh
thats sick
sharp oracle
yes but because of my igcse grade idt its gonna happen
your igcse grades dont carry massive weight
echo kite
so do i take stats futher maths maths in a levels
sharp oracle
no dont take a level statistics
echo kite
your igcse grades dont carry massive weight
but im most likely to get bad grades in as also
sharp oracle
take fm though
sharp oracle
but im most likely to get bad grades in as also
u js gotta work harder then
echo kite
but im most likely to get bad grades in as also
ill prob do it again if bad
sharp oracle
u wanna go to Harvard bro
echo kite
u wanna go to Harvard bro
where do u wanna go
echo kite
take fm though
aite
sharp oracle
where do u wanna go
im gonna apply bristol bath warwick oxford sheffield
echo kite
my main goal is degree apprenticeship though
is that space dudes
sharp oracle
is that space dudes
wdym
obsidian vessel
Bro js hating
Im not hating at all
its really very childish to make demands like this
"yeah man i dont wanna study for more than 5 years and i wanna work for 7 or 6 hours a day and make 6 figs a year"
there are basically no actual jobs that meet those requirements
whatever profession you study you NEED specialization to get a good chunk of money
which takes anywhere between 2-5 years
obsidian vessel
i half agree
yeah thanks
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obsidian vessel
alright what do you wanna be then
medicine related most probably
obsidian vessel
Finance end engineering work
engineering does not work
you need specialization before making the amount of money that he wants
nimble cloud
you need specialization before making the amount of money that he wants
yo dingus where did i say i wanna be a millionaire i js said i want to not be broke gng
nimble cloud
i dont have any favourite subjects, i dont have any subjects in my blacklist (ex...
.
if im sacrificing my childhood i shld atleast be able to not have financial struggles
sharp oracle
you need specialization before making the amount of money that he wants
A bachelors is 3-4 years and a master(specialising) is only 1 year
Not to mention a lot of integrated masters engineering degrees already specialise so it’s just 4 years anyway
Anything finance or engineering related is max 5 years of uni before u can earn a lot of money
Which is what he wants
God forbid somebody doesn’t want to do law or med and work 10 hours a day 😭🙏
obsidian vessel
yo dingus where did i say i wanna be a millionaire i js said i want to not be br...
you said 6 figures broski
obsidian vessel
if im sacrificing my childhood i shld atleast be able to not have financial stru...
Oh i didnt know 18 - 30 was your childhood bro
didnt know u a big baby like that
obsidian vessel
Anything finance or engineering related is max 5 years of uni before u can earn ...
finance is insanley unstable
obsidian vessel
God forbid somebody doesn’t want to do law or med and work 10 hours a day 😭🙏
Im not talking about med or law + law isnt that hard
im saying the guys making wild demands
if someone wants ANYTHING in this world he has to sacrifice another
Even in engineering its insanley difficult yet youre saying only 5 years
sharp oracle
finance is insanley unstable
this is actually false. Your correct in the sense that a investment bankers career typically lasts like 3 year but thats because they usually move into hedge funds, private equity, asset management or other things after
which are higher paying then investment banking anyway and less hours
of course top Investment Banking is hard to get into in the first place
but once your in theres so many other things u can go into
sharp oracle
Im not talking about med or law + law isnt that hard
saying law isn't hard is a wild statement
its 5-7 years to become a lawyer and the acceptance rate for top law firms and Biglaw is sub 2 percent
finance and law are arguably harder but higher paying than med
med u js need to get into any uni for medicine which is the only difficult part
finance and law u have to get into a top uni and then after get a job at a top firm
top finance and law firms legit have set universities they hire from
u could go to the worst uni for medicine but still get a job as a doctor simply because they're always in demand
simply getting into law and actually getting into corparate law, patent law and actual top firms
are two entirely different difficulties
sharp oracle
Even in engineering its insanley difficult yet youre saying only 5 years
im not saying its an easy degree at all but it is the shortest in only being 4 years
max 5 years of school if u do another masters or an MBA
saying law isn't hard and finance is insanely unstable shows how little you know ngl
yes it is performance based
but people dont randomly lose their jobs if their performing well
which is what an unstable career is
obsidian vessel
but once your in theres so many other things u can go into
"once youre in"
obsidian vessel
saying law isn't hard is a wild statement
i never said its easy
there are just much harder professions like physics/engineering and medicine
obsidian vessel
its 5-7 years to become a lawyer and the acceptance rate for top law firms and B...
"Top law firms" Every single top medicine uni or top engineering uni is gonna have similar accpetance rats law is nothing special
obsidian vessel
finance and law are arguably harder but higher paying than med
Law is higher paying than medicine?
law isnt consistent either unless you become a well known and great lawyer
Medicine just study and youll get in law requires high pressure thinking in the moment etc etc
specialized doctors make anywhere from 300-400k a year whilst law does 150
obsidian vessel
med u js need to get into any uni for medicine which is the only difficult part
Absolutley not
getting in is the easy part, staying in is whats hard
the first 4 pre clincal years are hellish
obsidian vessel
finance and law u have to get into a top uni and then after get a job at a top f...
Literally every single profession
obsidian vessel
u could go to the worst uni for medicine but still get a job as a doctor simply ...
Yes so youre saying if i go to a 3rd world country, get a diploma as a doctor then get into the UK or USA easily right thats your logic?
obsidian vessel
are two entirely different difficulties
Yes medicine is obviously harder
you can literally seacrh up any article talking about professions in university with the lowest pass rate and you will never find law or any finance related profession there
obsidian vessel
saying law isn't hard and finance is insanely unstable shows how little you know...
Finanace is one of the most unstable jobs on earth lmfao literally ask anyone
youre dealing with money inflation and stocks
could it get more "stable" than that?
obsidian vessel
which is what an unstable career is
Thats not what i meant
its not about how well you do your job its just very unpredictable something like a rock cimber
you can be climbing perfectly yet a rock comes plummeting on your face and there are zero mistakes you did
sharp oracle
there are just much harder professions like physics/engineering and medicine
law is arguably the hardest non stem related profession there is engineering and med are by no means "much harder" they're equally hard
sharp oracle
"Top law firms" Every single top medicine uni or top engineering uni is gonna ha...
top law firms and uni is a diff thing
modest tundra
Thats not what i meant
what are yall talking about
sharp oracle
law u have to get into a top uni with a low acceptance rate
then get into a top uni
sharp oracle
Yes so youre saying if i go to a 3rd world country, get a diploma as a doctor th...
no lol but if u go to a bottom uni in the UK for medicine
u can still get a job as a doctor in the UK
obsidian vessel
law is arguably the hardest non stem related profession there is engineering and...
Yeah "non stem"
sharp oracle
Yes medicine is obviously harder
what i said about difficulties wasnt even about med
sharp oracle
you can be climbing perfectly yet a rock comes plummeting on your face and there...
they look at consitency one mistake wont get u fired and they only fire you in times they arent earning much money which isnt extremely common for top firms. They fire the 5-10 percent consistently lowest performers
they dont js fire people at random
obsidian vessel
what i said about difficulties wasnt even about med
what was it about then
sharp oracle
Yeah "non stem"
non stem doesnt make it easy
obsidian vessel
they look at consitency one mistake wont get u fired and they only fire you in t...
Dawg i am not talking about YOUR performance
Im talking about stocks
obsidian vessel
non stem doesnt make it easy
absoltuley does
sharp oracle
what was it about then
i said getting into a buns law job and top firm are two entirely different things
sharp oracle
Literally 0 logic in it just pure memorization
extremely large volumes of work and all the small details matter
obsidian vessel
i said getting into a buns law job and top firm are two entirely different thing...
kind of goes both ways
sharp oracle
Are you going into law?
no im doing engineering
sharp oracle
kind of goes both ways
how?
check stats in the UK u can go to the worst uni for med and still get a job
sharp oracle
the same can't be said for law engineering or finance
obsidian vessel
check stats in the UK u can go to the worst uni for med and still get a job
No lmao
obsidian vessel
extremely large volumes of work and all the small details matter
On its own probably compared to general professions INCLUDING stem then its insanley easy
obsidian vessel
saying no lmao instead of doing some research
Bring facts out your bum with zero evidence
sharp oracle
Bring facts out your bum with zero evidence
alr ill give a link
sharp oracle
On its own probably compared to general professions INCLUDING stem then its insa...
it js isnt
sharp oracle
specialized doctors make anywhere from 300-400k a year whilst law does 150
and also
obsidian vessel
it js isnt
what?
obsidian vessel
this is pure yap
Lmfao what
sharp oracle
the upper limit is like 1.5m for partners
obsidian vessel
the entry for lawyers at top firms can be as high as 150k
"entry" gang
sharp oracle
"entry" gang
yes??????
sharp oracle
its basically the same for medicine
the entry for junior doctors is nowhere near 150k lol
your js showing how uneducated you are
obsidian vessel
the entry for junior doctors is nowhere near 150k lol
Junior gango
sharp oracle
wanting to go into med not even knowing how much they earn
obsidian vessel
Getting a specialization is completley diferent
obsidian vessel
wanting to go into med not even knowing how much they earn
so you go into fields based on pure pay?
i really dont care how much medicine pays as long as i can live comfortably
sharp oracle
so you go into fields based on pure pay?
no lol but obviously it came up in my research
obsidian vessel
which im pretty sure it surprasses that
obsidian vessel
no lol but obviously it came up in my research
what came up on your research
obsidian vessel
entry law pays more
Yes entry
best youll reach is 200k
Medicine is way more exponential
obsidian vessel
partners earn 1m or over
Evidence?
wheres that link you were talking about earlier?
You bring shit up your bum and blame others for unauthorized info
modest tundra
You bring shit up your bum and blame others for unauthorized info
lmfao
Sad thing is that hes not wrong
sharp oracle
Sad thing is that hes not wrong
im getting the links rn
modest tundra
you keep assuming that you somehow get into those top law firms with a 2.5% acceptance rate
sharp oracle
this guy rlly thinks med earns more than top law
modest tundra
this guy rlly thinks med earns more than top law
It does tf??
modest tundra
this guy rlly thinks med earns more than top law
Keyword top
obsidian vessel
It does tf??
Lol
sharp oracle
show me anybody in med earning close to that
obsidian vessel
show me anybody in med earning close to that
Already did
obsidian vessel
not even close to 3m
3m is the higher end of law
very few reach it
For neurosurgeons its not that uncommon
its rare but noowhere close to the chances of getting into that law firm
sharp oracle
For neurosurgeons its not that uncommon
takes like 16 years to become a neurosurgeon btw
obsidian vessel
this is like comparing a billionaire financer to a doctor making 250k
obsidian vessel
takes like 16 years to become a neurosurgeon btw
No
6 years med
4-5 years specialization
Largly depends on the country
Place im going to is as i stated
sharp oracle
No
neurosurgeon specialty training is 8 years much longer than other specalisations u also need to work as a junior doctor for about 2 years before being able to enter a specialisation program
something u should know as u want to go into med
obsidian vessel
neurosurgeon specialty training is 8 years much longer than other specalisations...
Which country?
obsidian vessel
neurosurgeon specialty training is 8 years much longer than other specalisations...
yea whats wrong with the 2 years
i already counted them
4 pre clinical, 2 years clinical and the rest is specialization
js admit youre wrong lil bro
sharp oracle
Which country?
UK
sharp oracle
3m is the higher end of law
the percentage that succesfuly become neurosurgeons
is 3.7 percent
sharp oracle
top law firm is 2 percent chance to get into
obsidian vessel
the percentage that succesfuly become neurosurgeons
More like the percentage to even CHOOSE neruosurgeory
sharp oracle
takes 16 years to become a neurosurgeon
obsidian vessel
top law firm is 2 percent chance to get into
So youre proving yourself wrong
obsidian vessel
takes 16 years to become a neurosurgeon
you cant base your shit on ONE country bro
"yeah man i saw a guy doing law making 20 cents a day i hate law !!"
sharp oracle
you cant base your shit on ONE country bro
UK med is shorter than USA med btw
obsidian vessel
same bs logic
obsidian vessel
UK med is shorter than USA med btw
I dont recall saying im going to USA
sharp oracle
I dont recall saying im going to USA
where u going then g
obsidian vessel
egypt are we serious<:sobpraying:1362848173495812309>
its my 2nd choice
sharp oracle
as the 500k number is for america
obsidian vessel
as the 500k number is for america
So i cant work in america 💀 ?
sharp oracle
its my 2nd choice
ass 2nd even
sharp oracle
So i cant work in america 💀 ?
to move to US u have to do a US residency which is more school btw
obsidian vessel
to move to US u have to do a US residency which is more school btw
Still there are european countries that pay as good if not more
sharp oracle
Still there are european countries that pay as good if not more
for example?
obsidian vessel
Switzerland
sharp oracle
only one i can think of is switzerland where the cost of living is also much higher
sharp oracle
Switzerland
yea
their pay is higher sure
but cost of living is much higher
in USA you would still have more disposable income
obsidian vessel
in USA you would still have more disposable income
Not necessarily
obsidian vessel
Lmao wait
sharp oracle
than one in switzerland
obsidian vessel
theyre almost identical
search them up
largley depends on where youre living though
obsidian vessel
explain how a neurosurgeon in the USA
would a guy living in las vegas or new york have the same disposable income as one in oklahoma or somet?
obsidian vessel
700k as a senior
Lmao basically the same as what i said earlier where are you trying to get
sharp oracle
700k as a senior
senior clearly says 557CHF
obsidian vessel
senior clearly says 557CHF
Turn it into dollars lil broski
sharp oracle
Turn it into dollars lil broski
regardless your link specifies 700k is the lower end for senior in USA so they still earn more buddy
cost of living in switzerland
is higher than new york btw
and new york has the highest cost of living in the whole of America
obsidian vessel
is higher than new york btw
Theyre the same dipshit
sharp oracle
Theyre the same dipshit
obsidian vessel
neywork is 3500-5500
obsidian vessel
Yeah by 3.8%?
now put into account the chances of you getting into the best of the best law firm
Law is very chance based
sharp oracle
now put into account the chances of you getting into the best of the best law fi...
so now we're swapping from medicine to law
obsidian vessel
if you do manage to get into that crazy law firm then sure youll get alot of medicine
sharp oracle
alr then
obsidian vessel
so now we're swapping from medicine to law
What?