#Medical university help

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rich dagger
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okay so first of all idk where ure from but:

  1. US medical school:
  • 4 years of undergrad -> can be any major as long as you meet the prerequisites for med school -> getting into med school can be quite tough because you would need to take the MCAT + lots of clinical experience or volunteering.
  • 4 years of grad school -> this is if you want to obtain an MD or DO license
  • match into residency program -> this takes a LONG time like 3-7 years
  • take USMLE for your final certification
    so ultimately: you come out in your 30s when you're done with training. most likely in quite a bit of debt, but some say it's worth it if you like your job enough and tbh if you're lucky to get a good job
  1. UK medical school:
  • a little and literally only SLIGHTLY lighter!
  • 4-6 years of UK medical school to obtain MBBS/MBChB degree
  • 2 years of foundational training to gain experience in different specialties
  • you can then choose between general training and specialty training
    then you come out of med school: maybe a few years earlier than US med school
    *note: UK admissions are typically a bit easier than US admissions

"UK students take out far less debt, US doctors make far more money, UK has fewer years of schooling but more years of training, training is tough in both but anecdotally it seems more taxing in the US" -from reddit

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@gaunt hull

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i like neuroscience too and im trying to figure out the same thing

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tbh depends if you really want to pursue becoming a neurosurgeon or a neurologist

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like for me i was thinking of going to PA school in the US which is actually similar to the medical pathway but lighter, work less hours, debt--maybe less i don't know yet, but definitely less time cause they don't require residency

gaunt hull
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Wow its all so complicated 😭 ty

woven lantern
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and its very accurate

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just wanted to add that for european countries scholarships are pretty much non existentand im pretty sure the same applies for US

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international students are what makes these universities money

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so they obviously dont offer scholarships

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they give scholarships in asia but not in the west

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for Uk unis youre looking at 50k a year for 5 years

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and for the US its more than that

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# gaunt hull Do you know any good universities in any of those countries?

Sorry I dont, Im based in the uk so I dont know much about asian unis but there is 1 that I do know about

weill cornell in qatar. basically weill cornell is one of the best medicine unis in the world and its based in the USA, but they opened a branch is qatar, and so its very popular cuz u get an american medical certificate (the best) but u dont have to go to the USA. however, its costs are the exact same as the one in USA, new york so its about 70-80k dollars a year. I dont know anything about whetehr they offer scholarships. this is definitely the best middle eastern medical school.

I would strongly advise asking your schools careers advisor for more info

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also something else to consider: neuroscience can be studied as a separate degree. but you wont be a doctor, you'll deal more with research around neuroscience if you understand what I mean

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also, neurology/neurologist deals with physical problems with the brain while psychologist deals with mental issuesthey are 2 completely different specialisations

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woven lantern
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cuz you'll probably take a lot more at igcse than alevel

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I'm not planning on taking more than 5-6 subjects in either cuz I would rather focus on fewer subjects and do well in them than other way around, yk?

woven lantern
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5-6 igcses imo is slightly too little I would take a bit more to be on the safe side cuz a lot of unis wont like it

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and 3 alevels is all you need, some take 4 but its not recommended and it doesnt help you for medicine

gaunt hull
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What subjects could I possibly take in either?

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My school doesn't really provide too many subjects to choose from

woven lantern
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these are the requirements for medicine

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and the rest you choose

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gaunt hull
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At my school they told us for medicine we will need all 3 of sciences in igcse

woven lantern
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depends on where you apply but to my knowledge maths bio chem is sufficient

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you might want to take it just to be sure

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but I dont think its a requirement

gaunt hull
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I was thinking I'd take as many as possible since I don't know where I'll actually end up studying yet

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I am planning on applying to every possible university in countries thst I can possibly go to and also apply for scholarship and then I will see which one I can afford to go to and which one is the best out of all the ones I can afford

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they have turkish

gaunt hull
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I will see

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it says available in zones 3 and 4 only

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idk if ur in them

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@gaunt hull just remembered

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studying medicine in germany is free even for international students

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and if you're good at german then you could probably get out of doing the foundation year in german

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I think this is probably your very best option

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I would advise you to really look into this

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it fits all of your criteria

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I would also say that learning german now would prepare you even more, but the foundation year will cover what you need to know

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@gaunt hull it depends

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if you want to get into medical

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take more than 6 IGCSES

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but for UK, Aus etc they only really want around 6 IGCSES

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and if you do 5 sometimes it’s wavered off if you do well in A levels

gaunt hull
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I was thinking biology, chemistry, physics, English, maths and maybe business just cuz I find it fun

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Like what other subjects I could take? Others are too hard and time consuming

fluid ledge
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I’m doing dentistry rn

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so med entry and dentistry semi similar

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but i’m not doing dentistry in US because it’s a 8 year course for bachelors and the rest of the world it’s 5 yrs

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I did
Bio chem math phys english literature and language for my IGCSES

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AS: English Literature, math chem
bio physics and math

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i had to cause it was required both languages

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i would of just done eng lit if i had the choice

gaunt hull
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I will try to talk to my principal to hopefully get literature added to my classes

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mint cairn
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Quick question: As an international student interested in studying medicine in the UK, do I need to take A-levels, and if so, where and how?
And a foundation year to?

woven lantern
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where? british council (for alevels) or a school that does it

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or yeah IB

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pearson A levels etc

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Thanks @woven lantern and @fluid ledge

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Guys can anyone answer my question if they have any information, experience or if they could give advice? Basically, my current school is not good. Barely teaches anything and honestly overpriced considering the fact that they don't really get anything done. I am thinking of switching schools. There is this another school in my city that teaches the Cambridge system. So, the thing is, cuz my school barely taught me anything, I am supposed to start 2nd year of igcse this academic year, but we asked the other school and they said I should be starting A level or AS this year, depends. There is also this option to go to a course. I will still get the certificate of the 2nd school that I mentioned but I won't have to attend school 5 days a week and the science classes will be only once a week and I wont get A level diploma(or whatever you call it). Tho the course teaches SAT and IELTS. I was wondering if I can get into a university abroad without the A levels (considering the fact that i will be applying for scholarships) or is it crucial?

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# rotund belfry Alright firstly how will you complete your IGCSES?

That's exactly what I am wondering, but I was thinking maybe the school will give me some tutoring if I go there because I have switched schools before (from a normal local school to an international Cambridge school) and I had to learn 4-5 years worth of material in a year

rotund belfry
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You can’t really do AS and Igcses in the same year

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I mean you cna

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But it’s horrible

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jolly cypress
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and if u want a scholarship then a levels def matter

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or play a huge role

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jolly cypress
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year is +1 than grade

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so grade 10=year 11

gaunt hull
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Ohhh

jolly cypress
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which one

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jolly cypress
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oh oki

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so have u sat ur gcses?

gaunt hull
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My school is running us late on purpose

jolly cypress
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Idk what they're thinking

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# jolly cypress in what way

Like yk checkpoint 2? We did checkpoint 2 in 9th grade so last academic year even tho we were supposed to do it in grade 8. They honestly skipped the entire 9th stage. And it is all just mixed up and unclear and no one at school is even guiding us. In checkpoint 2, they let us know about the exam dates like 3 days before. And we should have completed our igcse last year or at least beginning of this year to be able to do A levels yk? Cuz our school is only 11 years long

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Also I'm not sure if AS is mandatory

jolly cypress
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yeah i can see the issue now

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considering that it's only 11 years long

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well

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can u switch schools?

gaunt hull
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Like a bit ago

jolly cypress
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uh no its ur education so it matters

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usually u sit ur gcses in year 11

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so dw too much abt it

jolly cypress
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for non international they dont do as, its like a mock i guess

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it doesnt go into ur final grade

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# jolly cypress weird....

Ikr, there are so many other issues with the school that don't even make it worth staying in but at same time all the other schools don't accept anyone who switches from that school (at elast that's the case 95% of the time)

jolly cypress
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where international is 50 as and 50 a level

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how abt u sit ur gcses then switch schools?

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u can also do homeschool

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u can sit ur exams privately

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I am so extremely lost and so are my parents

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We decided I'll stay at my school and just do tutoring but there is no igcse or a level tutoring for science in my country

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And the English and maths tutoring are like triple the price of a normal tutoring (which is already expensive enough)

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well

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by a lot

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jolly cypress
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or still too expensive?

jolly cypress
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what is ur currency

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jolly cypress
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okay no worries

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uh i dont have pic perms

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but they can go as low as 3 dollars

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per 50 minutes

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plus imo

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u can teach urself igcse science

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there r soooooo many resources

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always make sure to follow the specification

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jolly cypress
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it's mainly maths anyways

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jolly cypress
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past papers a lot of it

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and for resources

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Okay I have endless questions, so one of them is, is there a good university anywhere in USA that offers good education along with scholarships for international students? I really really wanna study in USA but it is so immensely expensive. The only way I can study medicine there is if the total cost isn't so expensive and I also get like 50% scholarship

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I really wanna study medicine but it's so expensive all over the world. Sometimes I am thinking of giving up and going for design since art is what makes me happy

fluid ledge
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everywhere else max dentistry is 5 yrs and in the USA it’s 7-8 yrs

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i would

jolly cypress
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and arent scholarships for medicine rly hard to get?

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extra curriculars, projects, volunteering etc

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just know, there's is a lot of competition

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# jolly cypress extra curriculars, projects, volunteering etc

My mom just talked to the principal of our school (she's the one who controls all out academics and stuff) and she said she will be enrolling me into all of those stuff ans also she said if I go to Korea, the main thing is my grades and everything else will he handled. At the moment USA is not in reach for me, so Korea is 2nd best option so yeahh

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jolly cypress
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u dont want to be in debt

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korea is good too, just make sure the unis tehre dont require u to speak korean

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jolly cypress
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I've been studying it since like 4th grade

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jolly cypress
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well good luck with that stuff 👍

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I just don't know how my school wants to fit Igcse, AS and A level in 2 years

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Idk they keep trying to convince us all we will be just fine

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Idk they changed all teachers and principal and everything last year

reef parrot
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u might be cooked

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igcse, as and a alevel in 2ears?

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ur cooked

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bh

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tbnh

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I hate to admit I am aware

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They said we won't get any summer breaks (as if I ever got a summer break without school) and will study non stop to be able to complete school in time

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administration

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is

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braind4d

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I'm cooked

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the whole school

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It's a private school

jolly cypress
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like to ministry of education or smthn

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where i live we have khda and they overlook schools and see if they r doing good or notand if they arnet then they get shut down

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u can def report them

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# jolly cypress u can def report them

Well my whole class tried to last year, but first of all we can't take it that far cuz no one wants to sit in court and stuff and also, once again, it's a private school, government won't do much

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leave

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school

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ong

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That's unfortunate not an option..

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ynot

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# reef parrot ynot

My school ran us way too far behind so I can't switch schools, they simply won't accept me into my grade, they'll put me like a grade lower

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we started o level syllabus in g9

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whereas its usually strarted in g8

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lmao

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Also what exactly is o levels? I've never heard of it

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like

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i havent

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'ifnished my igcses yet

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gut

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starting igcse sytllabus in year 8 is the standard go to

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where im from

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Ohhhhh

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Alright

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I know my English is ass but im pretty sure i made it clear that add maths HELPS u in A2 MATHS and some SCHOOLS actually need you to have add maths in O LEVEL to pick A2 MATHS in A LEVEL (main)

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Guys your opinions on me taking igcse psychology for igcse? I don't have too many subjects for my igcse atm, i am interested in psychology, I know a decent amount already and since I am going to a neuroscience field I thought it'd be a good idea?

rich dagger
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I took psych

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It was fun

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But it is quite hard

gaunt hull
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I'm not doing igcse psychology but I have more knowledge about psychology and neuroscience than an avarage person, so I didn't think it'd be hard

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Also I asked in the #ig-psychology channel and they said I might not be able to give psychology cuz it'll be held in 2027-28 I think and my exams will be in 2026

rich dagger
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If Cambridge then it’s easier but it’s still a lot of content to remember

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All Ik is we are doing igcse and my school is an international Cambridge school

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If that even makes sense

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Guys my parents want me to take AP and in my country the system is messed up so I have to do AP along with my igcses in the best case scenario. Which subjects should I take for medicine?

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Why

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