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So, skids, they're small, and can basically respawn right?
- Fodder for my army.
2, scouts and raiders
3, one way bombers
Four, manual labor

- Four skids in a skyboat can be an analog for aircaft carriers
They look like children, and they are expendable
Arm one with a spear and see a sapient enemy get demoralized
Hmm
Speaking of
When we relive ancestor/spirit memories, they're obviously bigger than skids. But like, in a kid<adult way.
The elders are WAY bigger.
But, the handheld weapons in the wasteland, seem too big for the ancestors.
I don't wanna think the elders were involved in the war tho-
They could've possibly designed a warrior race
Hmm
But why design a warrior race instead of making weapons your existing race can hold?
Jkjk
Because why waste a life when you could have a weapon do it
But isn't that what wars-
I assume that's what they thought
Ok nvm
When I mean weapon, I meant the warrior race
Maybe the elders are the fighters, and the surviving ones are the leaders
Think of them as generals.
Unless of course the smaller weapons the ancestors used were just buried in the sand considering how the wasteland is full of it
Yep
Hmm
Oh btw
There were catapults
Lemme look for a pic
The catapult still works btw-
Considering the sword, yeah the ancestors prolly did also fight
Maybe a skid-like race operated the catapults?
?
There's also this generation theory I'll just tell you about later-
Because if the ancestors are going to use a catapult it will be bigger than that
Huh.
The one kneeling down and all
Right. Let's continue this later
Right
Bye! 
Bye
Jumping late to the topic but elders have different roles in the sky world
The elder of isle guides the beings of light towards eden
Praire elder materializes butterflies and puts them in pots
Forest elder creates diamonds
Valley twins are probably warriors/athletes
Wasteland elder is truly a war general
Vault's elder is probably chief or leader of the priests of the vault
At the yeti's slope
This proves yeti that likes hugging must have stabbed something in the past
When you are a cuddly sweetheart but also not hestitant to stab someone
Exactly
My theory is that yeti was one of the giant warrior in gw but then they leave the batglefield because they didnt like the war and reside in valley
E h e
When the dreams girl is being bullied
Yeti: in order to act i need the axe
Also yeti is a giant, almost the same height like fire prophet. And Reika once say that there was giant ancestors as warriors or army, explaining why those shield and weapons in gw are very big
Hmm
Yeti part of the same species as wasteland elder????
....nah, i think they are not elder
Sad we haven't seen any huge ancestors yet
Then again
yet
....ya say fire prophet is not huge?
I think seasonal spirits are counted as ancestors
O o p

All seasonal spirits: NO YOU CANT KILL THE ONES WHO ARE BULLYING DREAMS GIRL
Yeti: haha axe goes chop chop
Maybe you suggesting that we didnt see any giant gw ancestors, maybe 

And the dude next to it
Oh yeah that catapult guy is quite huge too
Same as the ones weilded by valley twins
Similar
Valley twins didnt carry swords tho
And same as the ones located at the eye of eden if im not wrongs
I want to drop something here before i go on my runs 
Look their cutscene, they do
Aight
S p i l l
I thought they were like hockey sticks-
T a l k
Not swords
Im sure they are swords
Those are paddles ._.
What if white candles are equivalent to diamonds as they both do magical things
👁️
Like you cant just smack fire with swords-
Hmmm
Interesting
They're too dull to be swords, but i guess it's because of the place
Neither with a paddle😂
White candles do summon stuff
I mean hockey paddle
hockey paddles?
Or whatever the hell those are ksksk
Technically a sword is more fire resistant than a paddle stick
So its the contrary lmao
But like, why a weapon instead of a sport stick-
I mean they might make the paddles from fire resistant material
There is this sport that involves swords
I dont remember the name tho
Arguing about canon 
Arguing about what kind of stick the valley twins carry 
As expected tbh lol
There is a theory stating the valley elders were veterans of the wasteland war
P f f
Nope
*REVERSE PSYCHOLOGY GONE BRRRRRR
If you look closely, they are disabled, they miss 1 arm and have a prothesis installed
They're paddles
Ok it was my memory lying to me, those aint swords lmao
I think only the swords in Wasteland and Eden are swords
It's looks like this
Ignore the swords, my memories just lied to me
O h
Since the handle things are shorter than the twins' paddle stuffs
O H
THEIR DAMN CONSTELLATION IS A CRICKET PADDLES
valley of C R I C K E T
||oh cool they smack balls||
Lmaooooo
Thatsoundedwrong-
Me as a male: mercy please
it was not intended I'm sorry
I'm w h e e z i n g
Im
l a u g h i n g a lot at this statement
But I can understand why you thought they carry swords tbh, it's looks different from their orbit sequence
First this-
T POSE
Then this-
T POSE FOR DOMINANCE
AND NOW THIS-
ELDER TWINS ASSERTING DOMINANCE WITH T POSE
Ya didn't laugh on t posing valley twins? 
Yeah, the model for the twins' items in the orbit are different from the one they use for the valley cutscene
|| Helicopter ||
Its 3 am my brain just lied to me lmao
Actually, now that I see it again, it looks similar to the bats they use in the prelaunch beta
ALSO TWINS T POSING POG
cough
A h
ah
|| Jojo poses ||

Don't MIND ME AVAKVAJAJA
is this a jojo reference?
Concept names, yeah
Nooo they fit more in jojo part 5 or 6
I giving them names for my Sky AU purpose

Do you plan to give them their concept names or new names
It looks like kakashi is having an existential crisis with Dora just standing there contemplating how Kakashi is the superior twin
Basically just their fanon name splitted into two names

E p i c c
Spill
Y e s
Idk I'm just very interested
Its 03:33 AM shouldnt have said that lmao
O o p
Basically it centers on the story of the rise, consolidation, golden age and collapse of the sky kingdom
Also the rise of the skykid kind
I/we'll be waiting 
Sneep
Or
Lore

S u p

Gotta keep an eye out for krillener
Been thinkin bout Wasteland
👁️
Who
I think we all know what happened to Wasteland and we dont rly have to discuss it even more
Nope- specifics are still iffy as all heck
There's still a lot to discuss about Wasteland even if the war's been discussed to high heaven
Same with the factories
Shipwreck stands out like a sore thumb and so does the finer details of Battlefield
Despite it looking like a clear cut case of war and the dangers of consumerism, there are reasons why Wasteland remains a topic of debate XD
So we got multiple theories as of how Wasteland ended us as Wasteland
- The Great War
- Pollution and Corruption from the Darkness
Factories?
Not multiple but those 2 just tell me
Pipes at Wasteland
Factories indeed yep-
So yes maybe you can say it was The Great War
Remember that Forest Temple and how it looks similar to the area with the first krill
Battlefield
Those are heavily implied to be factories
Yeah the Ruins area
So logically, they should've invented handgonnes and primitive magitek cannon
Darkstone?
They did have something resembling a magitek canon, yes
Maybe a 1st world war situation happened
Since Wasteland is second nearest to Eden and Vault
Their weaponry turned wasteland to well wasteland
I mean- it ain't unreasonable to think that it could have been a mix of both too- just that the war had been the tipping point
Perhaps darkness was trying to attack Vault? If so, what for?
Maybe internal strife?
Pollution renders a land useless over time- war does it faster
Another kingdom?
Like maybe darkness slowly growing in Wasteland
Both are possible ye
It is possible that they censored and razed their enemy's traces to the ground
Maybe those pipes belong to the other kingdom
The sands of time covered it all
Wym?
A more technologically advanced one
Everything about the area looks like it's been razed to the ground
But they got erased by the sky kingdom
Sandy, desolate- this is all that's left after that unnamed struggle
Their tech, their cities, everything
BUT
Personally I think no won really one that war
Or they censored it
They didn't get a chance to win, more specifically
You guys see those murals and drawings on the Forgotten Ark
They basically erased and torched it down to the ground, removed all traces, and left
Wouldn't you say the same could have happened to the Kingdom's side of the war?
Like we saw a drawing of a boat carrying the lights being struck by thunder so yeah war
They came at the wrong time
We don't know whose weapons belonged to which group after all
That implies they also lost
What they did is just
Good point
Well yeah- that's what I'm implying yes
Swear everyone to secrecy
Most likely
But the shields at wasteland look alike of the Elder's
Say this, krills attack
Not men
The Elder used both shields
Not living beings
Alternatively- there was a war, and then krill attacked
Basically beings of pure darkness that destroyed everything and corrupted it then left it to wastes
Im using Light vs Darkness stuff here
They most likely got blindsided
My opinion is kind of more kind of realistic, since many civilizations can pop up before or after Sky kingdom
Tribes?
Yes
The fact of the matter is that there was no Kingdom that rose after the one that we see of fell
Ancient kingdoms?
Maybe the kingdom was the last
Personally i just think darkness attacked because they wanted to infiltrate the Vault of Knowledge
What do you think that darkness would have done with the knowledge, though?
Searching
Either more food or corrupting it
Dont know maybe they just like destruction
Or maybe wanted to take over everything
We can't really deny that there was something important in that Vault hidden in Archives
It is possible that the sky kingdom was like blessed by like one deity and there are others in the world beyond the realms
But they got wrecked
So while I think it was attacked, I think only someone with something to gain from what they find in that Vault would want to wreck it
Deal with the devil?
Darkness' thirst of power drove it mad and chose to wreak chaos
Wait, I'mma be right back, like 15 minutes I guess
Aighty then- cya Nathan
This implies that there's a working mind behind the darkness, interesting
You never know
Potentially 1 is either exempt or the other candidate
First of all, why was Forest like that?
All shrouded by clouds and raining, depleting the light of the children
Maybe this was a sort of punishment from Eden elder because Forest elder betrayed him?
Symbolically, there's a possibility it represents grief, guilt, and/or inner turmoil- more often than not it comes from Forest Elder themselves
I can see it being a punishment of some kind from the Eden Elder, but what could she have betrayed him on
Exactly
And also her broken diamond
Question is, what are diamonds for?
We saw Forest elder have one, but broken, then Vault elder with one too, and then Eden
We also see vault with a sorta broken mask
Could this be?
Oh yeah- Vault and Forest were mentioned as being related
Boom
Because of their masks mostly, and I think it's because of the diamond
Specifically that diamond she fixed being the same one Vault Elder uses
AND Isle
But Isle doesnt have a diamond, he's just broken and old
His mask was broken because??
So we can all say that Eden elder had followers: Isle elder, Forest elder, Vault elder
According to most discussions I've seen- disagreements with the rest of the Elders
Isle Elder is notably not on the Gate to Eden
Banished perhaps?
Notice how there are only five masks
Banished is the likely explanation in my opinion
I think it has to do with Prophecy in some way
Maybe a case of heresy
Maybe this whole world was owned by Eden elder
Then the three elders betrayed him and left him to become weak
And then rose a peaceful world surrounding a core of darkness
That core of darkness, The Eye of Eden?
And then Eden elder attacked what was a very triumphant realm
Golden Land
Anyone?
Uh- Golden land?
Take out the waste
Ah
In Golden Wasteland
I dunno, I've always just seen the realms being under one Kingdom actually
The devs just laughing at me because im probably just wrong
They had sovereigns- but the ruler among them was the Eden Elder- at least that's how I see it
Eden elder fell
Used his last remaining power to attack Wasteland
And remains dissapeared only leaving the diamond behind
Whats the diamond called tho
Rebirth Diamond?
The giant spinny red one? We mostly just call it the Eden Diamond
Eden Diamond then
The rebirth part mostly pertains to the beam and trust me I have no clue where that came from
We call it the Ascencion Beam, but feel free to name it something else
Maybe its the ability of the diamond?
Ascension beacon?
Think of it, Vault elder's diamond basically revealed secrets
Like in the elder's cutscene
Mostly murals- and pretty much revealed the only person with a mouth in this whole game
Aka the Eden Elder, apparently
I have some thoughts about the diamonds and their abilities- if ya wanna hear 'em
can't really call it a theory cuz I'm too lazy to complie said thoughts XD
Basically the blue ones are the commercial, widespread ones that have pretty straightforward abilities- but are still very much manual and require someone to light it up
You know those red pop tart rocks in Eden though?
Yea
I think those could be an upgraded version of the blue ones- made to take in light automatically rather than having someone manually light it up
You can see tiny red ones plastered in the walls of a building in Eden- implying that these things were used commercially to a small degree
The giant Eden diamond I think is them trying to take it one step further- taking in light automatically and recycling that energy
Sounds liek a cool theory
Yes that one
So red ones are like the evil version
Darkness
Not necessarily evil per se- just the next logical innovation
Idk I brought it up mostly to see how it'd relate to the attack thing
I haven't seen it used for that purpose but now I want to XD
back
Oh heya-
Well, that possibly means there's machines running on light
When I mean machines I mean more complex ones
so here's the question: Why didn't they go full magitek? Did they have a limitation or did they just not see the things that can be built?
There's actually a mural from Prophecy that suggests that they DID go magitek
A couple of them actually
Hmm, so it's possible then that there's other lost survivors from the Sky kingdom that heeded the warning
and just fled
Because you can't just really flee on a skyboat
Credits to Wolf for that first one-
The magitek implications I'm talking about are mostly relegated to the Wasteland Elder and his possesion of the Fire Element
See those figures below him in that last mural- those are presumed to be turrets of some kind
Same goes for the one in front of him in the first set of murals I sent
interesting
So there existed a sect following the Wasteland elder that gone magitek
are there like hints that more of them are around or are we safe to assume they're dead?
That's presumed to be the Kingdom's military
And by Kingdom I do mean one containing all the realms
But I do wonder what people might have done with that element after the Kingdom's been totalled
I assume they reverted tech levels
Since suddenly you can't produce them anymore
Like after what thousands of years the stuff gets broken and there's no way to use it so they just used fire primitively
The structures remain as we traverse the realms so the existence of the diamonds would imply that they haven't gone back THAT far
But all modern things produced before the fall are gone
When I mean modern I meant the latest things
So that means they pulled a 40k and just slowly lost the knowledge
As I said earlier, I need more context
so I'm going off of guesses, the pictures you posted and the theories you posted lel
Ohhhh- aighty then
Given this is Sky there's barely any context other than the final product and the morsels of canon lore we got over the months
Off-topic but
what?
I just realized when mulling over the bathroom earlier that the Isle theme and the Prophecy theme share some of the same... Harmony? Melody? Idk I'm not a music person yet
Huh. Kinda have to listen to that for context but that's interesting
maybe the prophecy is linked to the isle
But I do know that some of the other Seasons that pertained to other specific realms don't share the same melodies as the realms they take place in
or something
That's what I was gunning for ye
The theme for the Season of Dreams for example isn't really... Valley-esque, it's more of it's own kind of melody if that makes sense
Other than the Sky leitmotif they don't feel the same
Understandable lmao
I'm more of a spirit and Isle person myself
Speaking of I need to go listen to those themes now
Cya'll- have fun loring
"A prophecy is a message that is claimed by a prophet to have been communicated to them by a deity. Such messages typically involve inspiration, interpretation, or revelation of divine will concerning the prophet's social world and events to come (compare divine knowledge)."
So we have a prophet for each corresponding to an element. But what about the "deity"?
Megabirb?
I always imagined they looked soft
soft and fluffy mantas
bet cuddling one would be one of the best things ever 
huh.
Are these the whurtles or-
Ok so uh- I tried riding it
It just phased right through :'^)
Whale
I've been speculating this but i think the whale is guiding us since we see it in eden and hidden forest
O o h h
Btw
This isle elder is more sus than ever 
BSJSJBSJSNSBSJBSBSBS
Isle elder is imp 
Jkjk
H e h e 
Interesting
Oh btw @magic gust
Those are the realm doors
That's the homebase
Or part of it at least
Speaking of realm doors...
Perhaps Isle Elder is the prophet who paints all the cave paintings and the symbol represents enlightenment
Hmmm
unfortunately, that's all I can contribute for the lore XD
Does it work via safe FTL-type portal/wormhole creation, or something else entirely?
Hmm
Lemme take a video or smthn
Choose a portal
Any portal
Praire
You sure you want the second one?
I wish I could say that portals are outside the lore but they aren't. There are a number of portals that have nothing to do with Home
3rd realm, lemme see what that is
3rd realm is the hidden forest
Aka big tall trees and you can't see the sky bc the clouds are covering
Also in the level it's constantly raining
And rain hurts
Also the trees are dead so they have no leaves
Well kinda dead
Ok so there are bridges at the 2nd last area
And remember those bell towers?
Yeah they are bell towers aswell
Yes
Thanks for the context

These things are the jellies
They float you up to the elder shrine once again like the mantas
Kinda cute not gonna lie
Ikr
But I assume they're big
So a noticeable size difference?
I can't seem to send videos here.
Smalls are like rlly rlly small
Messenger it is ig
Smaller than your character
Can you send it via messenger
Right, thanks
Pennywise: 
Oh right forgot to mention
YoU cAn fLoAt ToO
On the trees of hidden forest there are fungi

See that blue part of this jelly?
Yeah fungi have that color
They are circle shaped
Huh
Did you not yet play the game? that's so unusual for you to be here
Well haven't got the chance yet
Never seen you around here you an og?
No
Oh
I started in the middle of Sanctuary
Last week I saw Tom Zhao's site on reddit and became obsessed with Sky lore since then
Ooo
I remember someone here said they'd make a game inspired by sky and let everyone play it and is working on it to be mobile
But idk where they at now
a
I saw things like the Megabird and said wow I wonder if there's anything left of this in the real game so I went to Eden looking, nothing, watched the credits, told myself oh well that's OK, then the view pulls back slowly and wow no way there She is!
Imagine if someone created an unofficial spinoff for Sky that is about the Wasteland War
they made roblox spin off already 
How do you have the same pfp ever since i quit sky- and when i joined lore @bitter shale
Is there really a roblox spinoff @bitter shale
Like- you not getting bored?
Rebirth
Huh
The profile pic depicts the same cycle of life and energy to and from the heavens that is central to the lore of Sky
Oh lel
Shoot I had to go do smthn at that time-
The real lore of the game...

The pic won't load-
a gif
Oh nvm-
A h y e s

You shall remain forever unenlightened my child 
Unwatchable but I thought it was funny that the Roblox player cant fly and immediately falls below the world every time
Jkjk
@hushed steeple explain what exactly-
The fungi
Dark plants?
The glow thangs in forest
On the trees
I'll include that in the recording of the forest-
Hmm
What is happening here?
I see wind- kinda like how there's always that annoying wind in sky that prevents you from exploring farther than the devs intended-
Jkjk
6 pillars=prolly the six realms or elders
The castle=clearly the eden castle
The King is kneeling with mouth wide open and an orb floating above the hands in front of the face
Oh-
Maybe he was gonna eat a coconut whole
Eureka!
Whatever the literal meaning, the thematic meaning is that all those offerings everyone delivers up the mountain in all those paintings, the King was hoarding, instead of offering them up
E p i c c
So about the open mouth-
It reminded me of the legend of the crocodile-
There is certainly a garden of Eden apple thing going on there too, please share
Like a Forbidden fruit?
Yes
Eating the coconut whole
H e h e
I'm not sure if this will be any help but
Can I share?

Jkjk
Please share
Ok then-
A woman always shed fake tears to gain the pity of her neighbors. This lead to them giving her money on a daily basis(?)
One day, they uncovered the truth (it was about time) and they raged towards her house to get their money back.
In a greedy panic, the woman took that big sack where she put all her money, and swallowed it whole
By the power of fable logic, she turned into a crocodile
Bsjsjsbjskzbsnskbsb
They say crocodiles shed fake tears, and this kinda reminded me of that time I thought the yeeting rocks were the tears of the eye of eden
Wow that's exactly the same
O o p
Are Elders (like forest mama) deceased or alive?
The King demands offerings
One day, the animals realize the balance of the world is disrupted and rage toward the castle
War...
The ancients create the ark and attempt to take all their belongings and lock down at Eden
They fail, and the holy land becomes a storm
Some season the theme of it doesn't very fit to the main storyline
Like this season
That sKaTing gIrL
B r u h 
Hmm
If you think about it
The devs of sky
In terms of worldbuilding
Same as the legend of the crocodile!
Seems to fall more on the "Gardener" category.
Aka discovery writers or pantsers idk
Then again I could be wrong
I think this is to illustrate that not everyone in the world was wrapped up in the Eden saga. That's why we can't even see Eden from the village. It's an artistic choice to show us that these people had normal lives learning to ice skate and village life.
That sounded both wholesome and sad I- 
But, if valley can see eden and caught on explosion. Why the village don't?
It doesn't make any sense
I finally downloaded sky
They make the Sun really bright in that spot and make it a little hazy but I think it's more of an artistic license to have some place where the inhabitants were not even thinking about Eden
Thank you jesus
Even the far far far dawn realm caught from eden explosion
THAT HAS GIVEN ME MY DAILY DOSE OF DOPAMINE TIME TO SEND YOU A FRIEND REQUEST DJJDBDJSJSBJSJSBSBSJBS
DOILOOKLIKEICARE
NSKSKNSKSKSNSKKSNS
Lel
Jkjk
uh, I had a theory of Valley Elders using their power or smthng to protect Valley (prolly mainly to the lower class citizens that's why the villgae wasn't that destroyed) and it costs them their Arm and Leg that's why they have those artificial limbs or smthng
Btw Nathan what should I call you-
You have to choose what to nickname your friend an stuff
Huh.
D a n g
Call me..... Reclaimer.
Beautiful
It's time to usher the new Ecumene.
Call me Elidi or Sup your choice
E h e -
E
Jkjk
How do I accept friends lel
Yeah-
Thinking about what you wrote... Isle Elder protects us on our return to sky realm . Prairie elder protects the animals. Forest Elder protects the artisan knowledge. Valley Elders protect the architecture. Wasteland Elder protects Vault. Vault Elder protects the memories.
Right, tping to home
Where are you lel
It's ok to do at Gardener Category. But though all season's only
theme fit to the main story but other season's. Idk because I don't play it until end of 
I agree. All writing styles are a-ok! 
ye :D
I play sky at august but idk
Back from 4 hrs of cr

What's the topic
Oof
The full constellation
Lemme charge my phone then i'll be back 
bac
welcome back
the crowned guy in the mural has an "D:" expression?
he has been tenporarily banned, but pls dont discuss about this.
Ok so yesterday me and yash1352#8552 tested something.
You can have a cape with 0 stars. Just like spirits. But there's no difference from that and capeless
That made we wonder.
What if sky spirits can't fly? They have the cape just for the aesthetic. Is there a spirit memory of spirits flying using their cape?
The constellation kindof looks like this
They should be able to fly without using the cape as we see them in orbit flying with us 
I think the spirits in Orbit fly because they're already deceased, and it has nothing to do with whether they could fly when they were alive
I personally think vault was supposed to resemble Eden's tallest spire thus the vault-like Eden shrine and the diamond in Eden was supposed to be above it, just like Vault's summit
Btw when i went to eden yesterday i noticed that the back of the statues fall when you enter the continuous rock rain
It wasn't falllen before
Dang all these little details.. TGC 
Yes, i was like how did i miss it
Yeah, I too think Eden used to be the capital and that's where the main temple was, and Vault is designed after it
Maybe we foucus too much on the giant crystal
Ohhhh this is cool :O
dah dah dah dah
Valley was the capital, Eden Castle was where the King resided
lurks
Noice
Lots of villages ig
Valley was made when kingdom flourished the most
Also just to let you know Golden wasteland is actually a part of valley
Before darkstone was mined
It was the main residential area, where theatre thrived, ppl do entertainment stuff, knowledge stuff too
I mean
Just look at Valley
I think golden valley was the name for valley of Triumph
Wasteland was a factory area under the clouds then king ordered the wasteland elder to build a fortress around the castle to protect the ark
which shrine?
Eden Shrine
I want to land there TwT
someone has landed there before
Yes
Yea
There's a vid too
Bricky is it okay if Nathan is the secondary Bricky now 👁️ 3️⃣ 👍
who
@/ignis#4379 did oob through on our eden run yesterday but i got kidnapped by a manta in the orbit
The one Sup dragged here even though he doesn't play sky
Relatable
i. i guess ??? im not the authority on that. look up to whoever you want idc
I thought that it was the same one
No it's muchh bigger
ok
but maybe the one we see in vault is smaller because it is an illusion and could be broken
That's the theory yes
why would the vault elder be in the middle then?
I think the shrine we see in eden was supposed to be at the summit of vault
But how did it reach there
explosion perhaps
or maybe we see the one in eden a lot bigger because we are not supposed to be that close to it
there's no hole in the top of vault, if there was an explosion that yote the summit shrines from vault to eden there'd be physical evidence thereof
I think that this is real vault and the shrine at the top is blown off
what exactly do you mean?
nah, nvm its not really important
yes I thought the same, if you meant that that bit is the bit that got blown off from vault
if that part is vault, what's the tower we come out of at the beginning of eden ? are they both vault ? is it something different ?
We comeout from the top of the vault in eden social spce an there's no hole 
Illusion or a fake building
illusion
It could be a fake vault or a smaller version of it to store more info
hm, i still disagree since that final bit of eden would be more likely to be the eden palace/temple - as seen in the murals in isle showcasing all the temples
it doesnt make sense to visit the vault twice, especially not when it would mean neglecting one of the temples


I agree with one thing that the eden diamond was supposed to be on that shrine as when the blue diamond in eden was added all the elders were there so the shrine could represent that
I think eden palace would have megabird or the king as a shrine instead
What if vault elder is the king 
WHAT
YES
I think the eden diamond was to power the city instead
i think it had two functions - controlling rebirth and powering the kingdom
This blue diamond
scary oob
I think tgc hasn't yet completely came up with a storyline of the eden
Where is that?
light awaits, oob in eden
Ash lurks sometimes so maybe she'll choose one of our theories 👁️
technically there isnt a storyline at all
👁️ huh
There is for other kingdoms amd there are enough evidence
Eden is just chaos
I don't think the orbit beam was rlly necessary for the rebirth cycle tbh
e h e
oh, i suppose you werent here for the "there is no canon" drama
let me explain
sky has been created to be open to interpretation - there is no hard and fast story, if there even one at all. there's, technically, no canon, no non-canon, etc., and so when designing sky, although tgc does have a narrative department, their aim with sky isnt exactly to follow a storyline as much as send a message or make the player feel a certain way
what makes you think that ?
👁️ i've heard that a million times bricky
The elders and ancestors have existed before the shiny boi fell who opened the orbit beam came so that means the rebirth cycle has been that way before that or smth
Personally, I think it was a way for them to "go back home"
Or smth
I don't think anyone opened up or made the rebirth beam
I only think they found a way to convert the light energy to power the kingdom
Elders never get reborn because they used darkstone to gain powers
And spirits get reborn with us
It’s just an easter egg
I thought he was part of the game’s lore cuz I just noticed it was on a tombstone
Imagine jenova reading this message and ascend into orbit with anger 
I did not know 
We'll keep it a secret

ah, here is where we fundamentally disagree
personally, i think before the shiny boi fell, rebirth wasnt possible as the kingdom had become indifferent. the shiny boi was the one who brought light to the kingdom and opened the rebirth gate to connect them once again with the megabird, therefore letting them be reborn freely
what's the topic today lore folks
Eden diamond and vault's summit in eden
a-
isle gives me a serious Ponyo vibe
why does vault elder have a scratch?
Like in my pfp 👁️◡👁️
a bit irrelevant but does anyone know what the concept names for the elders were? (I forgot)
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They were never canon, they were placeholders, and now they are fanon.
so valley elders only have one name
depending on how you look at it, yes
some people do
Samekh
Samekh
others do
Sah
Mekh
others switch it up
Mekh
Sah
and some people do
Ekh
Sam
(or the inverse)
so it really just depends on what you like most
personally yea i do
Sam and
Ekh
I like Sah and Mek, don’t really care which one is which but seen some say pointy is Sah and poffy if Mek so I adopted that one a lil more.
Mushroom
and asparagus 

If you are referring to the central figure in the prophecy paintings, then this individual already helped the elders long ago and there would be no need for the sky kids
I think the paintings are probably from before the storm, when the elders were still alive
it would seem that way since i only described a little bit of my theory, but i basically think the history of the kingdom was made up of periods of light and darkness - whenever a period of darkness came around, more children would be sent to fend off that darkness (the first child being the CoL, then the next round being the eden children, finally ourselves)
also yes, i agree, it was before the storm as its the origin of the kingdom
why would you do something so brave yet so controversial?
That would explain the beckoning spirit cutscene in isle
yea, i think the kid in the ushering stargazer cutscene is the shiny boi from prophecy - thus the prince/king too
What is the king, and what is his relevancy to the lore? Fill in please? I've never seen him
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Also. Can someone tell me the story of sky? Don't really get it. 😟
It could be, I wonder this too. The first cave in isle shows multiple stars falling, which suggests that it might have been just a sky kid, but perhaps they were much rarer
the king is explained in this document, as well as some other things about sky lore ! its just about 600 words ^^
The final constellation in the Vault Elder cutscene is a crown. There are hidden references to a King, though this ancestor is never depicted as a spirit
because they're not an ancestor - its far more likely theyre an elder
An image appears on the crown constellation of a crowned figure
Ah, did he aid in the downfall of eden?
Elders are anointed members of the ancestors
That is our assumption!
according to the old backstory timeline - but according to the devs they're much more ancient beings, more like gods than people
Like ancient greek gods
yeah
they're so ancient its unknown how old they actually are
which imo implies them to be quite quite old
much older than any ancestor could achieve
I like the idea of them being the ones who won the trials and won immortality as a result
Elders aren't spirits but demigods just waiting for ages on end which is why they're in such a sorry state
A sky player said that the elders came to the valley of sky as pilgrims, and learned to use the light to their advantage. They made the valley of triumph, which was the golden era, but they used so much light it sucked it out of the world.
i see them more as fallen deities, it makes more sense imo with the information we've received about elders as well as certain concepts about them
Then a war happened over the last of the light, corrupting everything. The king only realised it was all wrong when it was too late. So he sent out a burst of light as a final call and that's how we were created
I imagine they were people who made breakthroughs when it came to technology, giving them the status of elders. Each elder seems to have a talent, like the forest elder with the weapons, the daylight elder with storing light, etc

Valley twins talented in making chaos
That's a great interpretation. I personally like to think of the King as iredeemably lost

Hold on, let me type up what this sky player told me. He told it to me when I was just a moth, and he said he was told it when he was just a moth too.
Hoo dang thats cool
Like Jafar from Aladdin
Or that guy who melts in Indiana Jones
or Isildur
Especially Isildur
Ok. So long long ago, the elders came to the valley of sky. There is no clear description of when they came to sky, but it was told that they were led by the king. They set up a small camp, and there, the first elder, the isle of dawn elder, found the power of light. He figured that it could be used to create things and power things, so he told the others. They decided they needed to explore more, so they headed further into the great valley. They found a field, and built the first boats. These helped them expand and explore. It was there that they found out there was a way to collect and store light, as the daylight prairie found. They could store as much as they want, and that is what they did. They loaded many boats with tons of light. Thus, the second realm, daylight prairie, was found.
prince was the best in the trials. Just imagine what would happen if others ruled over the kingdoms
Then, they set off further. But alas, the first of many hardships came. The journey to the forest. It was cold, and they went there to mine light. Yet mishap was at every turn, and at the fault of a few miners, lives were lost. But they succeeded in building the third of many great sanctuaries. There, the forest elder crafted the first light diamond. It was quite weak, but with this power, they could make great weapons, and the light power was much more efficient. Thus, the third realm was found and conquered.
how is the lore, some interesting content here
They entered into the golden age. You can still see the effects of it today. Light was released, great golden, detailed structures were made. This seemed like the winning side, and they knew it. Championships and races were set up, and the winners, the valley twins, were made elders for their skill and sportsmanships. But the king wanted to press on. To build a palace. To build more. At the rate they were going, surely they could do no wrong.
But alas. The story was not so. It took for a darker turn, and it was one they would never recover from.
"Moria... You fear to go into those mines. The dwarves delved too greedily and too deep. You know what they awoke in the darkness of Khazad-dum... shadow and flame." -Saruman
With so much light taken and used, there was leftover. Matter cannot be created or destroyed, so the light returned to the world as something. Something else. The absence of light bred darkness, and still, they pressed on, oblivious. The vault elder, a wise soul, advised them of the darknrss, but the king would not listen. He wanted to go greater. A kingdom fit to be proud of. So he started the building of great walls. Here's where the story gets foggy, I can't recall whether he talked about them trying to harvest the light from whales, or the absence of light leading to the starvation of the whales and light creatures. Worn down to the bone, and devoid of light, they created krills and dark, corrupted plants. And the absence of light always seeks for light. Which is what the krills did. Fueled by darkness and devoid of light, they turned on any light there was. The city walls became a gateway to a prison.
What I wonder is whether this whole mission of ours is partly to pave the way for a new race like the ancestor race, eventually.
The darkness became a force, pressing and stirring up disruption. Corrupting the waters, the plants the very air they breathed. There was no turning back. At the kings order, the kingdom readied for war. A war for light. A war for "peace". A war for revolution. This once great city was going to be their dying ground. The vault elder advised against it. The king squabbled, and would not listen. So the war continued. Light became harder to find.
It was a losing battle from the start.
So many lives were lost, in that war. Shields, spears, barricades, they littered the field. The stagnant air drew a wind over the desolate landscape. Yet the king was relentless. He ordered them to push on. The wasteland elder, he tried his hardest. But it simply wasn't enough.
The army. Was decimated.
Fleeing behind the walls of the vault. The final sanctuary, the final step. They stored their light, in great libraries. Scholars rose, yet it was all doomed, in the end. Darkness was quick approaching. This haven would not be one that housed those that called it home, for very long. There was nothing left, but fast diminishing hope. The king at this point, had only one goal. Reaching eden. Reaching the light. Finally getting there. Only returning to their place would be the way to fix all of it, in his eyes. The vault elder could do nothing to stop him. With each step, the darkness drove closer.
He eventually did make it, to Eden. But it was with struggles. He looked back, and realised, it was too late. It was all too late. His plans were for a bygone era. Wracked with distraught, the king did his final act. As the darkness drew in, he did something to protect his castle. To bring them home. But it failed. The castle wrenched out of the ground, all light being sucked into a beam. But with all this light being sucked up, it left so much void. The darkness drew in. The world. Went dark. The king was dead. The city lost, and the beam of light, a final beacon of help.
But as I said before. Matter cannot be created nor destroyed. With so much light, a bit of it returned to earth. Us. The goal to bring back light and save this kingdom. This troubled world. The first sky children.
But it was not enough light. Not enough. So we gave our lives, gave our light, to make more sky children. And thus became the fallen ourselves.
An endless loop. Free the sky children before you. Be reborn by the sky children after you.
Alas, this is the troubled story of sky.
So uhh that's what I was told as a moth. 👀💦
I think I may have changed it up before, but it was told to me on my second trip to eden by a veteran that's now inactive. He said the same had been just about told to him by a veteran before 😥
When I take a moth under my wing, I suppose I'll have to continue the tradition. He led me through alll tbe realms as he told this story. 😥
Lore story (kind of)
Not many people remember when we were grounded. What is now the wasteland was once the center of the kingdom. The stars protected us and the elders were our gods.
Then the stars started dimming. Without the protection of the stars, the creatures of darkness started sneaking in. First, a few crabs entered the moat. Then, the krill started taking over the skies. Soon, the ground was uninhabitable. The king had long been corrupt, but the queen had prepared for this eventuality, advised by the goddess of wisdom, who now presides over vault. At her command, the royal and common weavers had been weaving capes of light and butterfly wings for an escape to the air. Because of the krills, we escaped up to the clouds. The king refused to come, and now is the ruler of darkness.
The air was peaceful for a while, but the eye of eden, where the queen lived, was starting to become dark. The king was jealous of the beautiful area, and sabotaged it. The crystal, where the queen resided, was first. It closed itself and locked, trapping the queen inside. Without the power of the queen sustaining the area, the eye became the home of darkness, the young queen the only light.
Now, it is our duty to save the queen, and restore the light to eden.
Where'd you get that story
I know this is nothing like the story before, but this is one way I believe the sky story could have started. There are others, but this is my favorite
I just made it up, honestly
Someone has to start the stories, anyway
Tbh I probably won't continue the tradition. Pretty sure the lore is from 2019 or something, since it's been through two veterans. 😥 It didn't have any power diamonds or reasons behind some of the elders.
I guess the story for this story ends herem
does oreo fit into the lore? or is he just an easter egg
Oreo isn't lore related just an Easter egg
oki
Such a mood
do u think that the season of dreams quest giver is actually the little girl? (the one the season is about)
I freaked out I thought this was cozy chat I-
I should sleep im too tired
like, an older version and their her memories?
uh, beta content also isn't allowed here right?
oohhhh
your answer is still in beta but itz major spoilers so a little warning 
it is? season of dreams? i'm not a beta-
I don't wanna get in trouble for spilling beta content so imma- 
oooh, ahaha, so there already is an answer?
yepzz, best if you wait till you finish the quests ^^
good idea
i have a question
i noticed people talking about intros ? that they translated?
have i just not been paying attention?
do theseshow up when youenter the different realms ?
Wdym?
like
idk i was scrolling through what i had missed since i only check this server now and then and like-some people where talking about like the english, japanese and chinese translations of something being different?
If it’s about “intros”, that’s most likely the cutscene from the very first time you fire the game up
It doesn’t play a second time, you’d have to look it up on YouTube
LOTR FAN YESSSSSSSSSS MAE G'OVANNEN MELLON NIN
What is lore
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don't hurt me
I mean because of the channel name
the story
yeah that
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yeah
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I would be one of them-
Sorry-
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Theories and interpretations of any aspect of sky. From the history, the realms, the elders, to megabirb. Anything that isn't beta 
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Speaking of-
Lemme drop in this thought I got at 3am
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Original concept art:
Ngl that "humanoid" I mentioned looked like the prince-
Huh
Also ^
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