maybe the statues are the bodies of col that failed? They're initial bodies being turned into stone, preserved. Until the faithful day when a group (or solo) sky kid/col(s) actually destroy eden. Also, seeing as the skids are okay with it what would happen if the cycle is broken and their purpose is fulfilled? Would they return to being stars in the sky? Or would they be killed off? Or maybe fade into space?
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I do think that the statues are previous CoL
According to the traveler's guide, it sounds like the statues in eden are those of the fallen stars, the fallen spirits of your ancestors...
Eye of eden | return the light of the fallen
Remember?
hmm idk If i read that
if it only said the light of the fallen, it doesn't specify who fell. cause CoL can fall by losing all their light and dying
It IS still possible and its a good theory...
Its just canon IMPLIES otherwise
But it doesnt SAY it so i have nothing to say in the matter haha
maybe the CoL are like,, soldiers sent to fight a battle that eventually makes little impact. the statues were the last army that failed and this is the next?
Yes, but in that case, why didnt their bodies shatter upon death like us?
Encasement in a cement like substance upon death is an ancestor trait, not a cotl trail
Also, the size
Irs too big
*its
reminder to please take care not to shut down others' ideas. it's often unnecessary to remark on whether an idea is consistent with what you think to be "canon". We can all have so much more fun if we focus on encouraging each other 
why can't CoL recognize other of their kind without lighting a candle? Is it a curse or something?
Oh yes im not trying to force my theories on u
Just providing an evidence based canon view point
imagine if u lit everyone in the server and ur phone just shuts down
"Hmmm yes too many friends nope"
hmm that is a good point. but ancestors don't use winged lights. I also do think the statues are closer to our size than ancestors 
maybe we can’t recognize things without lighting candles- which is why krills are pitch black? i don’t know, i think it’s just the game and being anonymous
but it could definitely be something! i just think it’s a matter of privacy in some way
well, we do survive using light so makes sense
Oh... hmmm u make a good point... but the size thing was kinda proved by other ppl with pics... there's this guy called bricky...
imagine if the way to truly die is to have your light and soul stripped away from you-
what is soul- cue disney
maybe that’s the glowy kid we hug after eden? the light part of you that’s separated?
white kid?
hmm interesting
The currently most promising theory is that all cosmetics are an imagination and by lighting candles u r telling the other skid what u think u look like...
But not the shape of the cape or the pants... only the color in those cases
cuz colour is a reflection? so maybe you need an external source of light to be able to see it
Thats... just calls no?
i mean, colors are an illusion of light
Not a language
hOnk
maybe only some skykids shatter. the one eden cutscene before we start flying up to orbit shows glowkids breaking out from the statues. we start out flying with them, so one of those that broke out has to be us right?
H o n k
h o n k
h o n k
huh 
oh yea they're def skykids cuz of the ascent
imo
Aaaaactually... u shatter like a normal cotl when u die and u look different from the ones that broke out....sooooo... yeah.....
well many animals communicate through sound, even if the children are humanoid i don’t think they have a language
now that you mention it... i recall a shiny skid does fly up from unseen statue far up nera the diamond... that statue might be us
really? is there a vid of it
we’re all just honking moths, that’s the lore
Not all that shines is gold my friend...
we're all honking moths trying to just understand what happened 
i mean its the regular cutscene after we hug the shiny boi, after we fly up following the pillar of light
Nahh, we are actually honking chocolate.
U... shatter when u die... go have a look in eden... that being aint us haha
plot twist we’re just normal human kids that got mistaken as a prophecy
ksksk, who knows la 
My evidence?? Well, I just said so
And how thats canon
chocolate cape
burnt honking chocolate moths who desperately want to melt
white chocolate mantas
i would buy a sky kid chocolate statue
OH YES
Well, now its time for cracking pots and going off topic... so bye folks ~~~
MANTAS ARE WHITE CHOCO
what chocolate are krill 
burnt choco
dude would you eat this thing- it looks like a child-
look at all these new merch ideas folks
how do you burn chocolote lol
i-
anw back to the topic I just watched the intro again
HAHAHAHA trying so hard to redirect
when you try to melt a choco bar but you use max fire and play sky while melting it
guaranteed burnt choco 
the playing sky part is important I presume 
totally not a personal experience
dark chocolate is burnt chocolate change my mind
I tried microwaving choc to melt it before but I left it for too long and it got cooked instead
so from the beginning there are the constellations.. ...
i would eat that
you must not be familiar with the valley one
yum
are the constellations that fall made up of the same ancestor spirits???
i swear it literally looks like ice cream
aye noot 
The krill are the birthday candles
Ice cream cake
ice cream cake
I guess so
And the crabs are the cherries on top
ha! 
why wouldn't the eden castle be a birthday cake? Skykids are reborn in eden
i want ice cream cake..
Maybe? That's what it looks like at least-
same
are we just delicious chocolate toppings-
candle cakes are little edens..
everything is cake
they use our cookie crumble selves
leading us to the big cake
the cake is a lieeeeee
so do we get reborn to form a giant cake made of moths?
what have I done
let's go to eden sike eden is a cake
god's work
I-
clearly
and it looks beautiful
LORE
valley of triumph is one big red velvet cake with vanilla frosting
Haha, what if elders are mint candy or smthng-
//bonked
redvelllveet 🤤
the storm got vv hungry so it went chomp on eden cake and then didnt share forever
mint choco chip..
if sky people used to have language, what root of language it would be? hebrew? 
Is Isle like- a sponge cake- made with baby food
Oh nvm-
can-
sky kid lore? nah. but cake?
YES
can you save prairie elde-
Nah, it will be c a n d y-
ngl the temple bell characters look like hebrew
pRAIRIE SHALL TASTE LIKE SUNSHINE AND HAPPINESS-
then i would like to drink the milk
butterfly sprinklessss
I
y u m y u m
The third realm must be a Black forest flavour
so can wasteland taste like green tea and pandan
yeah gimme gimme
BUTTAFLY SPRINKLESSS
prairie is funfetti!!
Wasteland is like those ones with the gummy worms
Green tea, pandan, and just a hint of deadly freakin' seafood
maybe petroleum
petroleum flavoured cake
isle = caramel?
why have I come up to such a cursed thing
isle is like lavender
can we have an ice cream party now?
isle is chocolate and vanilla marble WITH caramel
gw is a green tea cake with weird things on it.
do not question
purble
hmmmmm
isle taste like lavender
prairie taste like whipped cream with butterfly sprinkle
hmmm
lmaooo no more questions
forest taste like......... water
the ocean
blueberry is the only one i can think of
omy
~ s l a t ~
slat
valley is vanilla ice cream with cherries
home is ice water but they put ice smack in the middle
^
Actually, forest will prolly taste like dirt with a tad of salt water
OOH!! forest has those caramel chocolates on it with sea salt
to wash away the tooth decay
and then they hide something in the middle of the cake like they're Yukihira Soma
theres a cake called forest somwthing
Lol chocolate. I had an idea about the origin of Eden. In the beta originally the treck to Eden included blue crystals to grow out of the sky child the closer they came to ascending. Originally the now red crystals were blue. Blue crystals are essential in the movement and activation of the sky realm by the act of voluntarily giving light to them. However in Eden those crystals which are now red take light involuntarily. The Eden crystal emmiting light and darkness is very close in shape and concept to butterfly pots, a vessel that contains and transmits light to be used. It makes me believe that Eden was an accident through an attempt to produce a major light source for the betterment of the sky citadel. Clearly something went wrong, and the vessel took light rather than giving. Is the rebirth and ascension loop of sky children not to prevent Eden from happening but to contain the spread of Eden's corruption by burning corrupted plants and saving remaining animals. For this reason I also believe that the sky children are not the residents of the sky realm but where originally the givers of light to the original inhabitants, hence it became their responsibility to contain the corruption of light.
The vault must taste like knowledge
vault taste like blueberry
nah, the vault just tastes like bluberry and sugar paper
black forest cake
I'll take the whole stock please
so @thatskybakery needs to be a thing
@wintry viper you should censor that there are spoilers my friend.
Sky Kingdom Icecream
Isle = Chocolate + Vanilla
Prairie = sprinkles
Forest = sea salt caramel
Valley = Caramel? It slide down fast like skid in race
Wasteland = Gummi Worm
Vault = ? ? ?
Eden = the Ice cream but idk what flavor
Also hello everyone.
note: vault effects wear off after a week, also risk of mind being blown
Oh spoilers are alright
no need censor in this room fam
HWEHEHEHHEHEH
They're very very welcome
VALLEY TASTES LIKE ICE
we have spoiler privilege lmao
y e e
just as long as they aren't current beta spoilers
valley is basically icecream
Ice cream cake it is then-
Oh yo my bad I thought I was in gen chat. Stupid me.
Exclude the cream
P f f t
valley is red velvet with vanilla ice cream
probably cuz of the topic rn
But someone took the first slice from the middle
are bakeries lore-
Sky Kingdom Icecream (revised)
Isle = Chocolate + Vanilla
Prairie = sprinkles
Forest = sea salt caramel
Valley = red velvet
Wasteland = Gummi Worm
Vault = ? ? ?
Eden = another flavor of i scream but idk which
Indeed aha. Sorry.
because I would like bakeries to be lore-
vault is rocky road
valley is red velvet cake with vanilla ice topping
and fresh rice inside
THATSKYBAKERY
AKJSKAJKAJLSA
plot twist! inside the wasteland cake there’s a krill. it’s big. run.
FRESH R I C E
VAULT TASTES LIKE....HEY WHY IS VAULT CAKE A HOLOGRAM WHAT THE KRILL
R i c e
prays to the ancestors
idk why but I can just imagine my skid eating dirt trying to figure out if the land taste like sweets or not
DARN IT
UHHHH UHHH VAULT IS TWINKLY RIGHT
valley twins laughs in hidden
THINK OF TWINKLY ICE CREAM THING
Vault should be a hologram
anyone wanna hear my take on realms as scented candles
krills could also = gummy worm?
the valley twins gotta be like those figures u put on the cake omg
Hmmm reminds me of trolstice
you know I love me some scented c an d l e s
yum.. hey wait why do these taste like sea food and bugs
vault is blueberry dyed to be a darker blue color with yellow, white, and purple star sprinkles
oh no first cakes now this
Ah
the wasteland elders spear are the candles
gummy worm krills... i wld NOM
vault has floating cake
The whole candles around the realms are beginning to make sense
So uh, realms as scented candle?
Home : breeze of clean ocean with stardust and nostalgia
Isle : first morning sunlight and seaside scent with a hint of lavender
Prairie : fresh grass and cherry blossoms mixed with sea salt and sandalwood
Forest : splash of rain, wet tree wood and spring shower scent
Valley : ice cool peppermint mixed with vanilla winter snow and fresh chaotic energy
Wasteland : green tea mixed with carbon dust and stormy clouds
Vault : old knowledge and night air blended with garden herbs
Eden : stormy clouds and thunder with scent of despair
Orbit : Shooting stars on clear water with light of hope scent
Office : camomile tea and friendship with a hint of honey and fresh milk
a lot of sense
oooo i like Vault is blueberry flavor
just that it's liquorice
vault was eaten by the big chonker spirit manta
lmaaOoooo
Spirit Manta go CHOMP
mantas are jelly
it's a conspiracy
Mantas are jelly 😍
Mantas are jelly :)
i remember when i first got sky i could basically smell every place
Manta-Flavored Jelly™️
imagine if all the realms are just one big feast
sounds so much like synthesia omg
^
I OBJECT TO VAULT
VAULT SHOULD BE-
WAIT, WHY CANT I TOUCH THE VAULT CANDLE??
lmao
i knew that the wasteland smelled like smoke and pollution and that the prairie smelled like flowers and allergies
Plot twist: and it's the krill that'll do the eating
7 stages of gett- WHAT
DARN YOU AGAIN VAULT, STOP MAKING YOUR PRODUCTS A HOLOGRAM
@bitter shale ya mind if I draw the candles at some point btw-
ma'am this is a family-friendly server~
the forest has that rain smell. you know, the rain smell
BAHAHHAHAH
please do
im more than ahppy to oblidge
we're talkin bout realms here... but what about spirits and skids
what keywords would i even put in to search it
the smells of sky
i need to know
and tastes
do skids even have noses
whoa
they dont even smell so no
Y e s
when I first started playing I was like wow they're all baymax
please keep references family friendly
I'll be removing comments that make inappropriate references
wait do they have mouths-
do skids even have nostrils-
they have noses but do they breathe
omg
...
they domt have solid bodies
biOloGy
hmmm i only have that theory of 7 vault floors as 7 stage of human conscicuesness
wait
uhh whatever teh word taht is-
what if instead of breathing they do photosynthesis
do they have solid bodies or are they like spirits
A h
S o l i d
skids are p l a n t
solid light form?
well I mean they do fall through the ground quite a lot
oh wait seven stage of meditative consciousness
Hmm
maybe they phase
A h
Personally I just kind of think that skids are little light golems
welcome class to sky lore 101, today we'll be learning about what dirt tastes like. We also are colabing with skid bioligy in which we shall be asking the question: "Do we as skids have noses?"
so technically they're solar cells
like when the spirits were "alive" they had solid bodies like skids?
running on the power of starlight and friendship
yeah probably
And they seem solid enough in their memories
Wait a sec
ive figured out all the family trees in sky btw
i k r
revolutionary-
CONGRATS, YOU ARE NOW THE BEST THEORIEST
this question hasn't been answered yet, and I shall say my opinion in this. g i l l s
inspired
what kind of freak of nature is a skid-
but fr i figured out the family tree of belonging
and how can I become one
Plot twist: You have to restart after dying in eden because you lost WL without bringing them to their bodies
Kinda like an impossible task considering dem red roccs
death found a loophole to keep the children alive because dead children = nono
gills + light + oxygen = skid
^
Technically if our task was to destroy the Eden diamond, then yes it's an impossible task
we have gills????
Except I don't think that destroying the Eden diamond is our task to begin with-
how do they honk
Wait a sec
or we just cant breathe in general and just use magic to stay alive
also yo how come edens door only has 5 elder faces
WL only have capes in the endgame
it doesnt have isles face
h m m m m m m m m mm
is it time for Isle Elder's banishment talk
isle's face got shattered tho
BANISH
pun maybe intended
e x c u s e ?
banishment, or self exile?
H m m m
hmmmmmm
hm m mmmm mmm m m mm m
tell me the stuffs
hmmmmnnnnnnnN
Okay the banishment actually isn't the thing I was going for but either way they there must have been SOME kind of discourse for them to split
I can just imagine wrighting down skid language
Skid: H O N K
Writer Skid: Casually writes down honk
And that theory the Isle elder is the adult prince
Humina humina
daily reminder : manta does have mouth
i thought prince was dead?
I know
im just wondering who punched grandpa in the face
yeah ive seen that and i cant think straight
we actually dunno- depends on your definition of dead
yo cuz in the cave of peophecy it looks like the isle elder is there watching whoever the starkid is
if manta has mouth, and elder race and spirit race has mouth, where is skid mouth?
Ye
Death mostly means separation (of body and soul) I think
he committed oxygen not reach lungs
someone said that the isle elder existed long before the others as he was the one ushering the boats for all the other spirits at the beginning of civilisation so the other elders only came after
This is probably part of the reason for the banishment
or exile
imagine if the mouth is the little line in between the skids eyes-
or self-exile
YES
"the dark is blinding"
I CANNOT UNSEE
P F F FT
NO PLEASE I'M IN CLASS-
Yes :)
real life manta mouth have the same shape tbh
A h
in which the manta manages to be scarier than the krill
just imagine this floating m o u t h
coming at you while you're out on a swim
imagine someday the elder manta open its mouth
c h o m p
i think the elder ushered lil starkid who saw the prophecy of how princes become princes and then was like "pfffft" and then speedran the trials and then became prince and then became dead
ALASKAN GIANT WORM
just casually nom
alaskan bull worms need to be more feared
Lowkey explains why they decided to add checkpoints-
Jkjk
bruh- that- that should technically be what the beta krill would look like except this one lOOKS FLUFFIER AND LESS LIKELY TO GIVE YOU A SOLILOQUY UPON D E A T H
ohhh
thanks for reminding em of the name-
spEEDruN
A h
is it possible for skids to be overwhelmed with light and then explode
sounds like he speedran life as well
reminds me of the concept art krill 
i feel like if they weren't already dead and they were placed above the Ascension beam this is exactly what would happen
Ah yes
y e a h t h a t
yep that :V
n y o m
Mmmmm yes
this thing still haunts me in my waking nightmares
omg
Imagine if the devs decided to make the mantas chomp you and the spit you out to your destination
Yep
krills use to have dexterous little hands to commit skid crimes??
hey what if sky mantas can nibble skid's head-
A h
manta kidnappings would be way more surprising/shocking/heart-attack-giving
no they use those to tear you apart limb from limb as you beg for mercy and it'll smell like shrimp the whole time it happens
N i b b l e
OR they'll grow extra wings cuz that's what they do when they collect more wl
h a n d
At least the word "kidnap" will feel much more suitable now
ok ok manta kidnappings just happen suddenly
guns
while krills let you know before they do
G u n s
guns
krill have more class
the ancestors were kidnapping mantas
guns?
mood
Plot twist: the krill and crabs are the good guys and they knock out your WL because they want to make you like them
Jkjk
violently affectionate headbutting
where are those crabs in sanctuary that dont ram you?
not in the cave its on a little island right
Or fashionistas with a despise for capes
when I first got manta-napped it scared the heck out of me
Those ones are chiller than the Sunbather
he was just hungry smh
they're just Emma from the Incredibles-
insert incredibles reference here
tbh i like to imagine sky mantas behave like cats. they will nudge you gently with their head, pressing their body on your arm and chirped when you petted them

they will sometimes place their head on your lap if you allow them and would love to be petted. sometimes they will nibble your fingers or give light kisses, like cats

AAAAAA
and we're all Bob
i want a sky cat to follow me now
and they also make you panic as you try to escape from they're grasp
Now im torturing myself by imagining these bacuse i know i will never meet a manta ;-;
NO FLOS SCREW YOU I CRIED-
wait, what do baby skids look like???
Sanctuary but it's Cat Island
use tiny spell first and then come bacc
average sized mantas just want to be petted tho
tehy understand your boundaries 
now that's a real Sanc right there
hmmm cat island season name?
hey can manta purr-
Season of Purr
normal people already do that i want the mantas to flood me
and then I can die
they usually like wail
the forest manta follows you the whole map
hmmmmmmm I now question if the skid we're playing had a life before the one we took control or they just started
tehy either chirped, chitter or wail
thanks noot
i can read backwards this doesnt stop me
Basically, it says “ew, your fashion choice is so horrible I losed my appetite”
CONSPIRACY: Krills are tsunderes
if you interpret them as organic child corpses then yes they might have had a good 5 or 8 years
before they were mummified and subsequently possessed
krills are tsundere cats
while mantas are more affectionate
they get possessive when some other skid tries to love the skid theyre loving
red = love
jellies might act like i-dont-care-if-you-die-feed-me-peasant cat
m h m m
lmao nvm-
bloop
Krill: Y-you existed within my line of sight! B-b-baka!
*headbutts you to possible death
Also Krill: It's n-not like I like you or anything >;'^(
jellies are the most chill thing and im glad theyll stay there forever and let me bounce on their bacc
the skid we play already knows a lot of things, and based on the fact moths have a little braid on the side of their head is tied means they have already been reborn before. Maybe the tip message is your thoughts?
ooohh, maybe jellies can act like those elderly cats who just want to seek solace and feel comfy?
i mean, its cute to imagine-
i love already
Reminds me of that finding nemo scene
next conspiracy: all creatures in sky are actually cats
Sky: Children of the Cats
cats on cakes
cat cakes
still going on this theory
I- what
where theyre swimming into the jellies and then get traumatically electrocuted
yeah me too <3
yes they had to have learnt how to braid hair somewhere
THEY JUST BISCUIT SHAPED LIKE CAT TONGUE OKAY
okay Imma go ahead and inspect the monster of a skating course the yetiman has keep loring brb
skids were born with a fashion sense
What if the krills were based on a person from TGC's pet just like how stitch from "lilo and stitch" was based on one of the artist's cats?

I can imagine a braiding line with like 10038293791 moths now
hmmm that flag on the yeti house... do you think the yeti cut the flag and use it for their pants?

it complements their white
skid: is birthed "omg where am i what am i what is my purpose"
also skid: ew no i have to fix this weave like so not groovy i have to put it in a braid-"
imagine if spirits are actually people from your past, the people you remember at least. thats why it says "relive this memory"
We just have amnesia? 
are we hollow knights
y e s
Megabirb as the Radiance
idk why i read knights as thighs
RemEmBeR mEeEee~~~
hollow tHiGhs
yall-

that's it you're all treating me to starbucks
and when you sit they dont turn the size of texas they just deflate
the thighs just go pfFFFFFFFFFFffffffffffff
Ik this is a game mechanic but-
A h
hahahaha I was gonna say that
maybe cuz u continue with the skids soul
A h
Skid: Cool I'm rebo- hey wheres my cape?
WL: nervous sweating
wait how do ppl have no cape
Btw guys
i think because the winged light is from the skids who came before is so we give it back. but the ascended light is from our own effort. we give that and recieve our permanent wings..
when you start you get your cape after getting a wl
oh so that must mean that giving your winged light to the fallen is like returning soul to physical form? and physical form has cape and not shiny boi soul?
before us*
bathe in wasteland sludge, sacrificing themselves to eden krills, smashing themselves to red crystals
If this whole sky universe is actually made with SOFT worldbuilding, we're screwed
isnt it made with fmod?
yeah thats actually theyre point they made it super interpretive
its like how theyre soft magic system is soft
So I guess we're already screwed-
y e a h
sigh
tbh i wish one question from the lore channel was brought to the devs and they could explain it

ya like a qna
livestream
interview
Like thata ever gonna happen
i would die for just one lore question to be answered
Earlier Ash popped in and said the battle axes were for a thing-
What thing??
also, mc skid's first life's gender was male change my mind
Does he kill sky kids??
minecraft skykid??
there is a hunter ancestor with a bow and arrow..
maybe the battle axes were valley twins' once? 
maybe once valley twins carry those battle axes???
idk they never specified but it has smthn to do with what he used to do before the skater girl stuff, or at least that's what I gathered from it-
AAAA
They are mentors
no they had paddles to yeet people when they lost the sport games
They look a bit too big tho don't they?? 
He hunted for sport!!
Oh my gawd
maybe just maybe they lose their battle axes and change it into paddles instead lol
That monster
It was pretty much up to us to guess what he did with the twin axes
wait who has the axes
as is with almost every aspect of lore
ok well now im gonna go hunt for this Thing Ash Supposedly Said About Axes™️
Beware of any big foots around
There's another bit and it's from February of last year
Legenda say whoever comes thwre never returne
I just imagine the first life. you land in a weird place, get found my another race, travel with them, end up in prairie, leave them, meet a few other of said different race, meet the elders as they teach you a few lessons, and even befriend all of thee spirits (alive this time) you meet
You know how the weapons in Battlefield are too big for the spirits to wield
Giant spirits apparently exist
yeah
stronk
Yeah but like- he can't have been the only person using all those weapons right
I know he's pretty much an army of his own, but it'd be pretty weird if he didn't have anyone with him and there's just- a metric ton of weapons lying around
he smaaaaall
Mostly I assumed when I heard about the giant spirit thing was that they were if Chibi mask spirit wasn't wearing the mask
and yes I do think she's giant without that mask
omg i nvr thought abt that
wait she's wearing the mask??
Well ye
yea its herrr mask
IM BACK AND I DIDNT FIND THE AXE BUT I FOUND A MARIO STAR???
I kinda thought she just dished it out to whoever wanted-
oml- y e s
going up to the gw elder in skids first life be like:
Skid: Heya! I'm (insert name here)! How about you?
GW Elder: What?
Skid: I said: Heya! I'm (insert name here)! How about you?
GW Elder: WHAT?
Btw about the endgame where you fly (after seeing that ruined castle in a blue void)
If you fly close to the spirits you met and you friend give you sum wax
Is this game mechanic even necessary, or was this added for lore?
Those are a killer's weapons
ooo?wheres that :0
probably them thanking you for saving them or something
Inside the cave... hovel... thing that Yetiman lives in
Next to the bed in the corner
But what about your friends?
oh i forgot they were there
i'm just surprised we have a bed
Wait
oh wait your friends give u wax? I didn't even know that
WAIT JUST A SEC
oops I thought the spirits-
Also, I'm pretty sure the reason you remember after you get reborn for the first time is because the memories carry on for a while each life until it fades a bit and you have to go through the whole gathering spirits process again?
Close friends in the crown constellation do
Those spirits you meet, and your friends are part of constellations
IS thErE a ConNecTioN
waw that's cool I didn't know that
i think so
if ya dont know context for this look at my theory on spirits being memories or whatever
a few possible ones yyyyep
Crown constellation is Eden's
there was the theory that skids are fragments of the king or the eden elder thing which is why they're in the eden constellation
We may or may not be the Eden Elder because of that
wait
yea
oh yeah that one
But why wax tho-
Then again heart fragments would be too op
the beginning of the game
somethings like wake up child
since we are on the agenda of that thing
'Wake up, child. Bring our lost stars home.'
Funny considering our eyes are closed when we take off our mask
wouldnt that be the crown constellation?
me on zoom classes
I think when they referred to the lost stars they were talking about the Elders
And the Ancestors that were part of those constellations
yeah
Then again my pfp can indicate our eyes are actually glowy. So the masks are like a shield ig
But from WHAT
who was the thing that woke us up?
Eden Elder still counts for that of course
and gave us light
Just not on the salvageable level
probably the supreme being
maybe the one that didn't fall with the elders is the one speaking to tell everyone to come home
since all the ancestor spirits are apart of the corresponding elder spirit of their realm
you know how long it would take to save every skid in existence if we really are that Eden Elder-
Hmm
There should also be a reason why those specific spirits make up a constellation, where unlocking all their stuff will give you elder stuff
wow this is really in depth
has anyone actl researched this
Mostly I think it's because those particular spirits have a special connection with their Elders
we are also part of a separate constellation
but WHAT
Define researched-
and "descendants"
Because it's been a topic on some days I think
But why with those specific memories?
Unless they were tasked to do those stuff as some kind of time capsule for the skids to learn from about the past
I'm just here to reiterate what I remember on those days XD
like drawn up the specific connections between each spirit and their elder as well as the overarching theme for each constellation it mostly the former
^
Ah- there's a few actually
is there a doc with that
and why arw those specific spirits so important that they are part of that constellation?
Not really, but I can write up what I remember real quick
if there were countless spirits who lived in the realms
Oh wait actually there's a doc- KIND of
W e l l -
U h m
Idk
It's the gnomin sky interview doc I think, where they mentioned that each spirit emote was related to what each Elder represented
noiceee
Because the Elders look the way they do based on how a person at that age would view them
and then here is my other question... the constellations existed before the fall
sooooo
THE REALMS AND SYMBOLISM
Isle- Dawn, Birth, Primitive Civilization
Prairie- Daytime, Childhood, Iron Age/Medieval Age
Forest- Rain, Adolesence, Industrial Revolution
Valley- Sunset, Young Adulthood, Information Age(?)
Wasteland- Dusk, Mid-life Crisis, Rampant Consumerism/Downfall of Civilization
Vault- Night, Old Age, Remnants of Civilization
Eden- Storm, Death, Ruins
The second one, as it applies to the main constellations
Prairie corresponds to childhood- so naturally they get the fun emotes
are the ancestor spirits part of the constellations before the fall or are they helping reshape the constellation AFTER ????
Wait
Forest represents Adolescence, so they get the moodier emotes
You're in a mid-life crisis in GW, so you get the emotes that signify danger and caution
Constellations are groups of stars
What if there are other constellations.
But we only focus on theirs. Maybe because they are also the lost stars we must bring home?
Jkjk
yep- Seasonal constellations
^ thats what im like huh? about
that makes some sense ey
all the seasons are new constellations
May not be connected to a certain Elder, but maybe they're connected through an idea instead
M a y b e
Or notable bonds
groups of spirits/stars we free
oh like irl some stars we can't see for some seasons
Notice how Belonging is an entire family of spirits- that bond could have been enough to warrant a constellation
or the become
Same with the Lightseekers and Enchantment scholars- their bonds as colleagues could have earned them a whole constellation
Stars can be represented with either 5 points, or 4
The WL and us ourselves, seem to have the 4 point star icon. Like we are also stars in our own right
Rhythm Troupe embodies it as they're a whole troupe of travelling performers
maybe the constellation system is the way they reflect the concept as above so below like.. their souls were connected
Vacations bring people together, so that's Sanctuary right there
Reminds me of the isle contellation
okay but like- Prophecy is sus though
yeah it is
right
The pointing boi had a ponytail daughter, Like that come here spirit with a ponytail. She was with another spirit who looked like the refusing spirit
^^^^
not necessarily related btw
prophecy could be diff cuz it's before civilisation like the isle elder
^
Btw what does ^ mean?
yall seen the first scene of the murals
Ye
it looks like isle elder
Candlemaker: okay daughter look at my line of work it's a pretty big deal now spread the word you're my head of marketing
Imma interject for a sec and pretend that it matters, but the person with Stargazer wasn't actually the Voyager
When I relived the spirit, they weren't ascended
also in the big mural the elements are with every elder except the vault and the isle
sadly this also goes for the students in the Trials
it wasnt voyager???
because I desperately wished that the candlemaker was one of the students asjkjskjkakjs
^
I need a comparison pic of them 
Basically, if a spirit is ascended, they would appear yellow in the cutscene, not blue
ahhh
A h
You can see this in the cutscene with Twirling Champion
Oml I just realized it's impossible for me to ping Pyre-
WhY caN'T I uSe fOntS jajjsbajiahabah
just type Pyre-
I tried-
A h
Wassup
*COPIES AND SAVES AGGRESSIVELY
Basically there's theories-
Mostly about the spirits
There ya go
Link link link
Plus the constellations and why they have specific spirits
Oh... spirit theories... i thought we hit the jackpot with a biology theory but oh well spirit theories r ok too
There's also this I need to have argued against
Where's the theoru?
Imma need to go catch up on some homework tho keep loring ya'll
Here's one Ig-
Ya'll show your theories too-

Aknansjksnakalmsna
just read from there on ahaha
Ok
idk if i have theories or just a whole bunch of questions...
theories phrased in questions
lmao
Here's my theory/headcanon(Sorry if this is out of place, also TL;DR: Spirits are past memories + souls):
Basically, the first life of the skid you're playing was a boy. When he fell he landed in front of the Ushering Stargazer's house (this is a clip before the new area it was put in). He was then "adopted" by them, in which he lived with them for a while. Skip a head, he meets all of the spirits we do and reaches eden. I'm pretty sure something compels him to go to the point of no return (BTW the lore for WL stays the same)? He goes in, goes through eden, saves a few CoL, goes through what we did, and gets reborn. Cyle continues and blah blah blah until it reaches the life we are playing. We go through our first life meeting the souls of out past friends through memories. We befriend them one again, and move on. We also somehow remember how to tie our hair, how to talk, etc from our past lives. And like that the cycle continues. you might be wondering "But how did we forget most of the memories from our past life and need to relive it again if after the first time we get reborn we still remember our emotes and have our items". Well #1 The memories fade over time and #2 We literally have a closet with all our stuff. Also I'm pretty sure the reason we get free hairstyles is because our past lives gave them to their spirit friends as to not lose them. While other spirits need light to "see" if it's actually you (it's demonstrated that skids need to put light on another to actually see them). Maybe they're vision is blurry from not seeing you for so long? Or maybe the fact you could have looked a bit different from what they last saw you as? Also you also might be wondering about the spirit statues, well that's where their soul resides sooo ye
lol thats long
The canon doc says wl arent stars
The rest checks out
wing lights seem to be left behind by previous skids
Aight
or like
W o a h
something.. lmao
Btw remember that isle mural of 1 falling star. Then the mural afterwards show 2 falling stars?
canon doc???
Any theories?
Wait what if this can line up with
then the spirit from light seeker has three of them praying in the cave..
This
Like, showing the cycle. The first rebirth, then the second, then so on?
Jkjk
also, about skid friends. Maybe you remember them the most because they're one of your kind?
Hmm
Mhm
or mission from
whatever woke us up
also the fact that skids are "descendants"
and the spirits we free are our ancestors
like...
huh
some had capes but could they fly??
Hol up Pyre, I got a question
The actual WL and the statues they are returned to don't have capes.
But in the endgame cutscene they do. Why?
The fact capes don't have shadows was also very sus
we have light in our chest did they???
notice the elder shrines all have holes in their chest and need to be offered light
llike...
I don't think so the physics don't check out
maybe capes are light coming out from our body, allowing us to fly? I mean the only reason we have capes is because of WL
Not to mention the size spells don't affect the capes
And if we lose light, the capes turn white as we go dark
like*
wait they don't?
Nope
true
Try the chibi mask and you'll see
aw I thought my big cape was cuz I got bigger
sadly I dont have the chibi mask
Iiiinteresting....
Buuut as always, no theory is without flaws...
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Cotl are a new generation, which means the ushering star gazer's kid aint a cotl...
But im not forcing this on ya... u can keep on believing what you believe and it would be ok!
Same goes for the rest of the stuff i have to say... -
Winged light are imprints of the cotl, which means they are like footprints, rather than the foot itself
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A cotl's memory doesnt disappear after rebirth, as we retain the memory of all our friends, number of currency, and stuff plus the emotes too
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The whole past lives thing goes with the skids being a new generation soooo there's that...
In sum, its an impressive theory, its just.... its not exactly canon
Not that your theory is wrong or anything all theories are equal...
Its just no canon...
yeah the skid stargazer finds cant be us
I explained #3 a bit if you look at my messages
because it was alive during their time
a lot of ppl say it's the prince
it looks like us tho.. cave of prophecy?
then again we dont know how long the rebirth cycle has been going on for
Btw when we get reborn we really just lose our capes/WL. Everything else stays the same
iNCepTioN
I just realized everything I've been saying up to this point is implying the capes are more sinister than we think 
and whenever we help them ascend they are capable of giving perm wings..
lmao
||kidnapping||
honestly it seems a lot of sinister stuff was happening
The wl make up the cape...
and see, they have wings... the imprints of the cotl are the ones that dont have wings... we give the wl to the fallen, remember?
Thats how they get their wings...
maybe the reason we dont capes at the start is bc we don't have enough light power?
Thats your candle~~~
I generally agree with your theory
Its cool
we give the wl to the fallen ?
translate pleease 🥺
is ascension a sort of returning the ancestor to orbit so that's why cuz u save them for good u get a reward
I mean they do go to orbit before that but maybe its like a confirmation
^ or donthey become something else
Well.. the flight energy is the one that makes us fly... but the wl make up the cape and ig in a way they help us fly cuz they ARE the cape haha
Almost all the (inner part of the) arches in architecture look like candles
maybe u give them back the essence of light or something symbolic like that
which is why they turn yellow from blue (which is kinda the colour of darkness as discussed earlier)
also sadly I didnt have enough candles to get the items from the recent traveling spirit so I wasted my ascended candle 😔
im assuming that all the statues we give wl to are other cotl who came to free spirits???
Yes but then there's 1,2 and 4 hahahaha
O o f
hmm yes, but then again its a headcanon sooo
Ever since proph prolly
I dont mean the season the real deal
most sky lore is headcanon
lmaooo
crabs r skids?????????
creb
Btw
o h n o
Crabs represent rebirth LMAO
We just send them up higher...
It basically just bribing them to get ac haha
hey maybe at one point they used skids for darkstone manufacturing
imagine if theres actually skid souls in dark crabs though, thats why they wanna attac u-
and after that skids becomes crab
they want ur l i g h t
"There are instances crabs dump one shell in exchange for another, symbolizing a point of rebirth in their life cycle"
noooooo
Mantas in the diamond press scream in the distance lmao
genetic experimentation
wait someone confirm or deny me plz: the statues we give wl to in eden are fellow cotl who came before us on the same mission??
Does anyone know the story of the season of dreams or is this the wrong place to ask lol
pretty sure
Because we haven't merge with wl yet
kid want to become the very best skater like no one ever was
wait there's a soundtrack title called those who came before and idk if it's part of the pnr sound
Makes sense
The chat name has the word "Lore" does it not?
Jkjk ofc you can ask here
brb
ahahaha I wasn’t sure
i saw the backflip dude (I think) in season quest 3 end cut scene
what was the lesson she learnt tho
I didn't rly get it
Crabs in sky aint real crabs...
Confirmed multiple times by multiple ppl...
Just thought u should know
who is the spirit next to blushing in the cutscene?
bacc
yo i was pinged here?
Possible, but highly unlikely... prolly they are the fallen stars, the fallen spirits of your ancestors
to the right
Lemme just bring up this pic bc why not
i'D LikE tO hAve mOrE Of mY thEoRiEs dEbUnKed
dARK cRabS arE eX skidS cOnFiRmEd???????
:o
If dark crabs and skids have the same walk cycle, yes, but if not, no
So no
But its ultimately up to u what u belibe
its a joke-
*believe
walk cycle?
Ahhhh finally done answering all the theories...
theres like a %10 percent chance of that happening
genetic experimentation
I-
Sure
U do u
Highly likely
if u can have spider-man why not crab man
i feel more confused then when i walked in here tonight
Ok we r entering crackpot domain again
Ping me when there are theories
This time plz plz link
skreee
Link to what?
yessir
are spirits the same race are elders? nah. But dark crabs are possibly ex-skids? yes
O i
The original text block
Aight then
soooo
Elders and ancestors may be the same species... highly unlikely, but possible
wait a minute where are the spirits' and elders' mouths?????????
Only the sith deal in absolutes
like I said, baymax
elders cant be what the ancestors are..?
nvm I'll just go with my mouth headcanon in which the mouths are the little line between the eyes
how come the ancestors were worshipping them if theyre the same
If my theory is right, they decompose their food outside their bodies and absorb it thru their skin like mushrooms
As for skids, they only eat light
👁️ 👄 👁️
Considering the twins. That means the elders could have had parents or other relatives. Or maybe I'm just missing something
