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One for flow one for flower
Eh can be use your amazing imagination
OOOH...
Wow nice photo
When they find those planets... whispering.. the rift.....
Anyways..
I still wondering what's beyond.. I guess I sometimes like thinking about possible lore.. even if it wouldn't work..
Beyond
Is there anything beyond you wanna say
Mm yeah...
And welcome back to chat got krilled
Today's contestant is Mr. Caterpillar who's score is currently more than 1 hour
Currently today's longest score
ah they beat me cri
Wasn't there a theory where it was said that the people of the Sky world were sorta kinda given immortality by perpetual reincarnation or something like that?
Wouldn't that apply to us as well? We are stuck in a time loop possibly. Unable to complete the given quest
Aspects that made it into the game from concept art.
Image A) darkness plant melted for daily quests house light once burned away. The darkness in the nest at wasteland’s graveyard area even allows butterflies 🦋 to be freed from the darkness’ grasp.
Image B) the giant wurtle or whale / elder creature in Sanctuary, Eden/orbit intro and hidden Forrest exists. However the krill/dark dragons are the only creatures that shed pieces of its dark self.
the elder creature in sanc is separate from that concept, they don't really look alike
Image C) the original idea was to have an elder creature that was corrupted by darkness and Krills are the closest thing to this concept
Agreed everything has been altered to some degree. I’m merely showing the concept that made it in.
But fat creature
The number of limbs and the exact shape are altered
By looking at the origins of the idea we can get an estimate of the current vague presentation.
indeed
part of me wonders if the old corrupt creature concept was changed because
a) current dark creatures aren't corrupt, they just exist
or
b) current dark creatures are meant to be "past saving"
I’m heavily leaning toward they were corrupted to become these new things as we lack evidence for their origins outside of them appearing in a time and place when things went to hell
If they were present or a form of them were present in isle prairie or hidden forest we could definitively say “they are their own species”
But since they only show up in wasteland and Eden it’s hard to confirm.
That’s why I look back to the concept art to take a hard look at what the developers originally intended these “things” to be
they existed when the kingdom was new
Can you elaborate ?
krills specifically, we see them depicted independent of other creatures in the king's coronation, the fire mural, before everything went to hell
the krills were present for the kingdom's origin
You’re talking about the mural in prophecy ?
yes
Is it possible that the inclusion of the krill hidden in darkness is a prophecy for things to come? Much in the way that wasteland and Eden are both depicted in the same mural but were not built at the same time?

honestly i doubt it
the way i interpret the mural, we have the whole kingdom - citizens, elders, light creatures, orbit itself, and the king at the centre of it all. he brought them together, brought light to the kingdom
then, in the corner we have a dark creature, turning its head and leaving. the king drove darkness out of the kingdom, essentially
That is a way I didn’t even think of interpreting it.
So why do you think murals depict everything but krill and only in two murals are krill present (both at times that wasteland and its-industrial complexes were built)? Is the lack of krills in the earlier ages (isle, prairie etc) that they covered a different part of the sky world ?
imo i dont think wasteland's industrial complex had been entirely constructed by the time the coronation happened, we see only the very beginnings of it with tsadi and his turrets, and from the looks of it diamonds were relatively new tech as well since teth is holding her diamond up like she does in her cutscene - aka, "The Invention"
although it existed, it was new. i just think krills were around before then and were used as a general allegory for darkness
I DID A RESEARCH ON THAT GAME COMPANY
and i founded one of theyr first games
its called clouds
and i founded out its pretty similar to sky look at this its like prairie in the sanctuary place
and the boy was ghatering clouds to stop polution
and in sky
yes ! sky is inspired by cloud
The clouds help you to fly!!
I KNEW IT
many of TGC's games have similar themes
so maybe the boy was the person that ghatered the clouds in sky
i don't think cloud and sky share a universe, usually tgc's games are separate
@lethal stump i tried making more research on the game but in the tgc website they dont show it
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
idk
i know, from what i know about cloud it was made before TGC was actually a company - Jenova Chen made it on his own as his first proper game
yeah it was created in 2005
tgc was created in 2006
so it was created one year before tgc was a thing
but i wanna believe that cloud and sky share a kind of connection
canonically they likely dont, but you're welcome to make whatever theories youd like
thanks :))
and also his cloths are like a large version of the vannilla sky kid cloths
im back
Woah. At first I thought that was one of the hotdating pictures. Sky really is a kinda......definitive TGC product.
I've still got a copy of cloud running on my pc, I believe you can still get it from Jenovas University sub site
http://interactive.usc.edu/projects/cloud/
Funfact, Vincent Diamante made the music for that as well as Flower and Sky
i don't play journey but i think tere are some really big similarities between them.
in this image it looks like they are carrying eden on a boat
I think I saw something about an ark (not the enchantment one) in some concept art once
what's the caption on the bottom left picture? cant quite make it out
shoot i meant bottom right
Woah, okay what’s happening I am here to learn more about this major ark
Seems like it's written "ultimate embarcation". What's funny is that "embarcation" is a French word 😅 it translate to boat in english.
So, it means the ultimate boat?
Yep seems so
ark will now forever be known as ULTIMATE BOAT
Just so we don’t confuse it with the forgotten ark
no I mean that ark
You think that they’re the same?
im making a joke
What up, I’m jarred I’m 19 and I never flippin learned how to read
maybe I need to start putting /j at the end of my jokes in lore chat
Hehe it's always difficult to know if people are joking or not with just writing
Sorry i just really wanna learn about the major ark and I didn’t get the joke rn away, very much a Drax moment
well
ark will now forever be known as ULTIMATE BOAT /j
Same
They sure didn't give it a great name ^^" but well it was just a fast idea at the time I imagine.
ah yes, im a bit late but i can explain that ark
its part of the old timeline
as far as we know, its no longer canon
Old Backstory Timeline
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DN92-hX2v3nPxc215W2K7YWnmCYTUtGXYTX5uLKq620/edit
you can read the old timeline here

also the text says, right to left:
prosperity (Samekh)
by battle (Tsadi)
the plan (Lamed)
ultimate embarcation (Alef/Resh)
here's the concept about the ark:
A powerful Ark made of Dark Stone is built. The [C]reatures attack and the Ancestors use it to seek shelter. The Ancients steer the Ark toward the Holy Land knowing the Creatures would be reluctant to follow.
Elder Creatures and their armies sacrifice themselves to destroy the Ark which explodes in the epic battle.
A Storm filled with darkness was created from the explosion and corruption spread through the Kingdom. The Ancestor’s Dark Stones curse the King’s crown, trapping him in the storm.
Good morning lore chat-
cough cough babylon
Hello! Any theories on what this statue represents? Is it the same as the one under the citadel gate? But why is this one broken? 👀
What happened while i was gone?
Isnt scrapped canon even worse than beta?
We dont talk abt beta cuz they MIGHT scrap it
But scrapped canon is already scrapped...
I wouldn't call them worse you know
"mysterious reveal"
It's not bad to know nor talk about it tho??
yeah what the heck- I don't understand Pyre's stigma on talking about old beta and concepts
They're still important and interesting pieces of information
Wait what’s going on? We can’t talk about old stuff anymore?
No we can-
I thought that was the point of this chat lmao
Talk about them as much as you like, just because they're scrapped doesn't mean they can't be recycled
Guys, idk if some of you know the story of the fallen ark from an old season in golden wasteland
But I feel they are from hidden forest and vault
I take some pictures so I can show you them for who didn't know about this
Just don't add a new message until I show all the pictures you guys wanna see
I'll talk as I please, thanks
Same here
I don't know what this talk about 'worse than beta' is but if you want to talk about concepts, then feel free to
Ah lightseekers
Don't let someone else prevent you from asking questions
Lore is lore- so talk about what you like so long as it relates to it smh
That's the story
We think that the lightseekers gave a hand to the people of enchantment
It was a storm who destroy the boat
i for one don't think they're ALL from Forest
observe the clothes of the Enchantment scholars
I said they look like from hidden forest and vault
They resemble Vault scholars far more than they do Forest
Some say that the vault people helped too but some say they had no involvement
Lightseekers yes
I’m going to say something about this chat that’s kinda bothered me... agree with me or not. A lot of you guys in here shoot down a lot of ppls theories without adding any proof or act like there’s no room to debate old theories. A lot of people here spend time simply disproving everyone else’s ideas, but adding no new knowledge. We are here to talk not to attack. Please be kind and don’t gatekeeper lore... I don’t talk in here as often as I want because of this :/
ah- we're sorry we made you feel that way Rose
True, it's just a place for theory and theory are not the real truth
Just a way to be the most close of the real answer
Still- I'd feel responsible with how often I go on here-
I'd like to be better
Thanks for coming out and saying it, Rose
I never say anything to theories that don't directly contradict dev canon... but if itmade you feel upset or anything im really sorry...
Maybe in the ark paint, the rain was falling stars ?
Or maybe some stars fall during rain and it gave element ?
Oh god... umm yknow...
I hate to shoot stuff down right after someone said they didnt like it
I rlly do...
Im srry but that rain cant be stars cuz according to the travelers guide, all the stars are now gone...
I-
Yeah...
But, i think we can tweak that theory a bit to make it work?
I was just question
Oh good
But sure something fall during rain and they catch them
Maybe it was the essence of fire in the hidden forest
Like the little fire we see
Ye ye
Yes
Prolly
It was shared
Their boat got krilled
Also how was there a storm in gw
Yeah
I still think a krill did it
No
No
NO?
yes

Yes
This is how it end
by thunder
So how it had that paint and how the ark and some little boat was destroyed if it's not ?
Not sure
They are spirit
But maybe only 5 of them survived
they still died while they couldn't escape
So one love crab
One try to search mushrooms
One is farming
The another one paint
The other one is tired
And the one who had water power try to make water pure
The one who loves crab is taming crabs
Yea
Dancing crab spirit
Lol yes
I just know they are maybe the only who survive and try to get food and water to stay alive but they didn't survive because they had no pure water
Ever notice how the winged light and the characters without masks look similar
What if it's something like all of them were winged light
Who characters
The player
No
Wl are like stars
But they are more like others who are like yourself
Child from eden
There is a theory that wl has to do with the prince and that the prince is us
Yes
We just see he look tall and had a crown on his head
We dont know whether he is canon anymore actually
Well it was the only clues we had about him from the vault
Just a quick statement, I just want to say that this channel is not about finding out what is canon and what is not canon, and shooting down others theories will not be tolerated.
There is a reason why nothing in this game is explicit and there isn’t like some lore bible on the story. Everything is supposed to be open ended and up for interpretation.
Were the spears' sizes like this?
But when we relived the memories of the spirit here, the size difference was clear
?
First they do that
Mhm
Yep
Your constellation friend
H m m m
It called the light
what're ya'll talking about?
It's pretty hard to explain 
Yus
mk
Friends used to be able to give you wing boost
Yep
Ye
Yes hh
There was a theory that Skids are the decendant of Prince/King. Hence, the same constellation (or just similar constellation)
Maybe
perhapss
Lol
There's also a similar theory of Skids being the reincarnated Prince/King (just split into 2377438927483920 pieces)
And welcome back to....
chat got krilled
our 2nd contestant is Chesca who's score is currently less than 1 min
😭😭😭
they're supposed to be the same, and originally they were ! the friend constellation was just expanded for ease of accessiblity
Hmmm.... so that basically confirms we’re descendants of the prince... he fell from the sky just like we do... and the wing light is apart of him correct?
I do like the theory that the prince is somehow related to skids and that we befriend him or help to free him from the fate he was cursed with. But the idea that the winged lights are his body or being broken apart, it would explain why we collect so many of these lights only to give them away at the end
Oo
So are we saving the spirits or our we collectively saving the prince?
Is the prince apart of the mega bird?
I can see it being both
Well, it says in the canon doc that the WL are imprints or smthng. So there's a chance of Prince being WLs
just that the prince is taking a hella longer time to save
When he’s saved... what’s next? Does the world end? Are we bathed in eternal light?
Can we finally perish?
ah finally- the sweet release of death-
I think that he tried to become his own megabird and was punished for his hubris of trying to break into the heavens without the approval of the megabird
I'd call that a reward XD
I-
Whoa what?? How do you break into heaven?
I
easy- do like Lucifer Morningstar and become a tiny harmless cherub-
Some people have speculated that he is the one that opens the beam to orbit and we use that to pass on and restart. It could be that he created it with enough light energy to become a god himself after becoming corrupted by dark stone exposure
oh no, I think they mean't the theory where King/Prince made the big diamond in Eden to get the light from the beam
ye that
Only for all that ambition and hubris to be his downfall
I’ve never heard this before! I usually hear the king is the one that causes the downfall. I guess that would make sense as to why the prince is scattered and not the king
I’m sorry for having to ask, but can somebody give me a an explanation on who prince is?
Some people also think he might have become the king from the corruption of the dark stones

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The prince/king was this elder leader that was scrapped but some people think he might still be in the game somehow
Ty both ^^
^where do you guys find the lore moff prompt?
They are- just not in the way we all think-
I didn’t realize that I’m glad he’s canon
i have it on stand-by in my personal server which is how i grab it so quick - it hasn't been pinned yet
Crazy how pivotal the king is in sky, and he doesn’t have a shrine or even visits you while meditating
I had a theory a minute ago where the isle elder was the prince
He might not have a shrine but he DOES have a ton of propaganda that we can't escape from lmao
Bless you, Bricky for being the archiver here lol
Sky king is not immune to propaganda
well, it did say that Eden Elder isn't around to be saved anymore. Which most people theorises that Eden elder is King/Prince
I remeember that but on a keyboard
Mornin
This is perfect
Mornin'
So the king is beyond saving
And we’re trying to save the prince?
If the prince/king is actually the winged lights that we collect, it would explain why we don’t see him like the other elders
I'M BORED HELP
Ye
Also whose doing the voice over at the beginning?
Probs Megan but really none of us are sure XD
we don't know for sure - some people even think the king and prince are the same person
Well, actually. Most likely since we don't know who is the Eden Elder
frick
Sweet sweet Megan
You fool
We all saw
most common narrator theories
- megabird
- prince
- king
- isle elder
- vault elder

I like the idea that it’s possibly either Daleth or the prince
You had this list ready didn’t you :3
hhhhhh-
hello
you know this weird symbol all over the kingdom, that uh..
this sort of thing
I think the isle elder might be the prince personally
Part of me wants to think it's Isle Elder in case Megan's dubious existence comes into question
Howdee???? 
Hallo????
Oh? I’d love to hear an elaboration
He had the Prophets at his disposal- they're just hanging out in his basement-
Megan to me is like an omnipotent goddess, who facilitates the transition from death to rebirth
anubis man is isle elder's grandson 
thats pretty wholesome
I always thought that Daleth was the king’s advisor who was banished after he became corrupted and was replaced by an inexperienced Lammed, who unintentionally made things worse
O
Maybe that's why she has all of that information on hand?
Exactly
that's interesting
Oh let’s see.. I don’t have a lot to back it up it just makes sense to me. So the prince seems to be one of the youngest ppls in sky. He falls in isle when there’s already an established kingdom. Isle elder is left out of a lot of stuff, and the prince was created to either change or fight the king. It obviously didn’t work, so he retreated back to isle, to guide lost souls towards the fallen kingdom, and safekeeping the knowledge of the ancients, with himself as a young sky kid as the focal point of the cave paintings
coolio
This isn’t a bad theory tbh 
uwu
Quick recap whose daleth and whose lamed
yes pls
Daleth is the isle elder and Lammed is the vault elder
Yes
i think the only problem with this is that the isle elder is depicted separately from the prince/king in the proph murals
Ohhhhhhhhhhhhh
oh my
And this is where I remind everybody to limit the use of their concept names-
lammed...
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They were never canon, they were placeholders, and now they are fanon.
Just to avoid confusion
Those
thank you
Yea... there’s also that so
😅
Best to stick to [realm] Elder
Thank you, Vi, thank you Bricky
Love the symbols next to their names
Lmao
Op
And I oop
so uh, what's the topic?
Whose the prince/king/isle elder
we're just bouncing around it seems
mkay
But I’ve been sitting on a question for a minute
oh ?
Ooo, what is it?
Fire away-
What is it
Remember when you die and you’re inbetween realms?
Like you disconnect after the point of no return
Come back and home is closed off
Like lightening and thunder, and all the other realms are closed off
Also the stars seem brighter and has an angry tone, the eden door is lit, but in a menacing way
Why is that?
Wait how do you do that
You're being forced to complete Eden basically
Oh you can log out of the game after PnR
Megan is angry with thee
When you open the game again, you'll end up in a stormy Home
Stormy home has wingless babies if you time it correctly
Only Eden will be open, and you'll be forced to complete the run
It'll stay that way until you complete Eden
keep in mind that closing a game isnt really uh.. part of lore
If you want a real challenge you can have someone walk you through the doors wingless, and you can do an eden run without wings
Interesting
But that sounds like just a cool glitch
Oh it isn't- but it does add gravity to the whole Point of No Return thing
not really a glitch, just a system to make players complete the ending sequence
It ain't a glitch actually
But still like, the game could have just sent us straight to where we left off
hows that

Hm
My question is why all the theatrics
If for whatever reason you're booted out of the game because your phone died or whatnot, that's what you'll be greeted by
A very stormy Home with an Eden demanding to be complete
maybe the game isnt used to teleporting players where they left off, so to add additional security, the home is closed
You're past the point of no return with no way to collect more winged lights until you complete Eden- so even as you escape the game through other means, if you're not done then the game will just kind of force you to
Your only option is to die
Which is crazy cause it implies that once you pass the point of no return, the elders/meagan controls the realms
how does it imply that ?
what
Before you die you can do whatever you want. When you hit the limbo zone, and the base of eden, the elders/meagan force you to complete your climb. You can force close all you want but until it says you’re about to be reborn, you cannot access any realm, or have contact with any of your friends via warp. You’re closed off from the rest of sky. Without your consent, by the will of the elders. Also when you start out the gates are also closed?
When you haven’t met the elder the gateway is blocked!
hm.. or maybe
I got my own something to say about this
portals are individual for children: they need to open them up themselves by exploring the realms
maybe No Return means cutting the ties with this world. Maybe its just us leaving it forever. Maybe reborn wasnt intended, but something went down and the child came back
what makes you think it's the elders that control the gates, though ? it doesnt seem entirely within their control imo, considering they're in limbo
they can open the path for you to continue on, but that requires you meditating at their shrine, id imagine you'd have to meditate again to let themclose the path, if they're capable
maybe we were meant to die and never come back, so we became dead to the world
and then poof
Im back, somehow
maybe we werent meant to save the fallen ones, but we did save them and the starlight helped us
i disagree, IDA, rebirth has always been a big thing in sky - in the concepts and now, i dont see why itd be an accident or "unintentional"
its a major part of the theme of sky - a cycle
When you leave for eden pass the point of no return you cannot go anywhere else. The doors light up for eden and the spirit portals are closed. As a moth you cannot continue on your journey without the consent of the previous elder. They control your access to the portals
Sorry guys spell check is killing meee 😖
Vault Elder's consent?
well, there are faces carved in the doors of eden
those are the elders, yep
they look similar if not the same as faces carved on portals..?
and in stormy home after the pnr they glow up
Yea that’s my point
Interesting
so maybe the elders do have something to do with it
maybe they did close the portals
perhaps
lore-discussion is best lurk channel, please talk y’all im interested
I- ok
I :3
Would the Elders want to impede your progress in such a brutal way though?
well... maybe the know about the cycle of life and so on.. they are old after all
I feel like it’s more EXTREMELY heavy handed than brutal
Thinking back, it'd be more beneficial to leave the portals open for the children to have access to things that would keep them alive for this part
If they wanted to brutal they would have put crabs everywhere haha
why would they keep us alive if we were ment to die at this point
they don’t want n o o b s going in there and messing up
Collect the fragments and rescue the spirits
And I realize it's our fate to die there, but did the Elders have any say in that in the first place, us dying?
Maybe... that was the king/meagan trying to make up for the collapse?
wdym
The opening portal thing is prolly just a game mech
Then again if we're talking about the use of portals, what was the purpose of Home in the ye'old days anyway-
It's implied that questgivers can walk through these portals, but it wouldn't make sense for spirits/ancestors to be able to use Home-
I'm just curious if the Elders themselves were aware that the cycle existed
The cycle~~OOOOoooo000
well... maybe they didnt. Maybe they did know about the fallen ones. We did save their spirits, maybe they wanted us to find the lost children too
all they did was open up the gates until the eden came
If they weren't aware of the cycle existing, wouldn't it be better for them to have the children survive the ordeal though?
why would someone make them send children off to die
HOLD on guys,
Exactly
but they know about the cycle
Megan.
I think we’re missing the most important question
Wait no our purpose is to not just die but to save to
Why WOULD they willingly send a child off to die if they weren't aware that they had a chance?
Child sacrificessss-
Did Aviary have a stormy middle ground for eden???
Who is the mysterious middle man anyway? The guy at the top of the tower, the guy connected to all the constellations?
No like we need to save to
Maybe whoever that person was, had a day in this?
Maybe cause they knew we’d come back haha
Whos the guys who connected
Megan moment
had a say
I think they are aware.
thay are in orbit, they see the gateway
that's likely the prince/king
Ye, Megan should stop watching anime. Like: MEGAN, ACTUAL CHILDREN CAN'T SAVE THE WORLD
we didnt save the world but we saved what survived...and.. tbh, thats good enough c:
"megan is an otaku" is not the take i expected from lore chat on this fine evening but i'll take it
In the very beginning of the game, the illustrations on the cave walls show the six realms connected to one power source, a little dude
Ah thats Megan
What is otaku
thats likely the child of light
Basically a person who really likes anime
a person who likes the animes and the mangas
What have I come to
An otaku is someone who avidly watches anime.
But why does it look like us? They're drawn the same
we're children of light as well ^^
Probably because we're the same thing
It's probably the Prince but I dunno-
You could not go to aviary after the point of no return
We’re kids of inbetween I think
I JUST REALIZED UR PFP IS JIN BYE
There's so much mystery surrounding this central character it bugs me haha
Lol yup the one and only
you seem pretty new Honsul, are you ?
So what happened if the game disconnected?? You’d get sent back to where you left off??
Okay so what are we on
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Whoops
Home and aviary are 2 different things, aviary is treated as any other level
I joined yesterday

Welcome !!
!!!
Yesss
Ahh welcome mothy 
The big brain juicer family is expanding
Homespace was just a watery area back then
Home is where the heart is
Heart. Hmm
It was a personal place, other players can't access it. It had the friend stones, portals and everything. Until the aviary came and TGC moved the portals there iirc
Other players could be in home space with you
THANK U FOR THE DOC

Water home or island home?
Water home
Water home
Ah
I'm gonna go read it now 🙃
Eden didn’t even exist when beta first started so fjsjajsj
I have more interesting links
The Canon Lore Doc (can be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing
The Theory Vault (can also be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing
Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing
And make sure you check the pins, they are heaven to us theorists. :))
Red eden was a last minute thing too uhhhhh
Eden was a slow cooker project haha
aH- ALI BEAT ME TO IT AGAIN KJKJKKA
Man imagine how cool it'd be if Eden had it's old concept colour palette-
Like- literal black and white dramatic-ness, that would be cool.
BLUEEE
Yes
BLUE EDEEENNNN
bruh Blue Eden though-
BLUE EDENN
Bleu Edeeen-
Tough job
Rip you old betas 
Uhm
Cheese
Crab
Yes
I thought it was about the portals-
Ok the portals
No cheese crab
Cheese portals
uhhh portals closing because Eden right-
Ig
cool
you need 14 obsidian to build the frame of the portal
Well there's always a thing where fallen kingdoms always close themselves off to the world, so I'm guessing that's why they did it?
Step one: point portal gun at wall and shoot
Step two: point portal gun at another wall and shoot again
Brings you to the deeper part of eden
then you build a rectangular shape and light it with flint and steel
U sure this is lore?
positive
To get to eden u gotta k word lots of endermen
are krill just a bunch of endermen attached like a couple hundred worms on a string
krill are enderdragons
Then u use an ender pearl
Oh snap that reminds me my friend needs my help in Minecraft-
I'll be back rq-
yo quick question whats ur pfp from?
Koi from Twitter?
ohikdoke thanks
About portals it seems not activated till you meditate I wonder how does that work
Actually ive meant to ask/question:
In the intro they say something about : if only they had listened
Talking about stars
And then they ask us to return the stars.... so all the children of light we connect had consciousness at one point of their „life“????
wait sorry I'm having a bit of trouble understanding- when you say all the children of the light, do you mean the winged light?
To me the WL seem so be an imprint from other S.Kids that like, lost all their light and left behind their WL (the one we see in the pity box) in the overworld-
O
Additionally, the stars in the intro are actually the Elders, not the Winged Lights
But that doesn’t explain why WL is so scattered
:0
But what are we retuning then...??
The devs actually did say winged light are imprints of a child of light during a livestream
I guess it depends on how you interpret 'imprints'
They could be memories, they could be fragments of someone's soul
Child of light is also used alternatively with children of the light- as in, plural
Interesting
Imma try process that
Oh man
KRILLED
Lmao just wait for 'em Chesca
So they could be imprints, a part of a whole child, or actual children?
Well the devs said “a child of light” so I think it’s a part of a whole child but who knows 
saying a part of a whole child just makes me visualize Jesus and the communion crackers I'm sorry-
Like an imprint of a specific child the way they worded it
OOoo
Could you elaborate on that?
Oh i forgot I was talking 
Ok so when you die in eden you meet a child of light and you hug them and become whole and stuff right
I believe the imprints are of your other half
And that other half walked the world before we did- they're your child of light?
Do you guys think basegame spirits had to do that when they reached orbit ?
Spirits aren’t the same as us so I don’t think so but maybe
I also believe that we are the eden elder reborn, so those imprints would be back when we were the eden elder
I always suspected we are the eden elder but I feel like prophecy said a lot more
Many people died trying to complete the trials, and the one who did seems to be the representation of eden
And we are the next ones to have completed all trials
Kinda like chosen one mumbo jumbo
i can't think of much to say I just agree does this count for a krill
I guess that’s how they figured out who the prince was.. besides falling from the sky haha
Imagine the worms getting you in the trial of fire and you have only one chance 

Instant death
no please I haven't even completed that one yet kajskjaksj
And either ya'll cheesed it or you died so many times that you began to mistake hate for love because I cannot for the life of me figure out how some of you found those adorable XD
Also everyone knows this by now I think but prophecy logo is the king head that’s like. Everywhere in game 👁👁
Just like the krill, it was repetitive exposure. You gotta face your fears until they become cute
that's... morbid-
and heck even before the was crowned King there's propaganda of him I guess-
Those structures could have been made after
hallo
It was a prophecy after all
true
...does anyone here write fanfics for sky?
ye
nah
Can you dm me a link???
Wow I just read the pdfs that Ali sent and it's the most confusing stuff I've ever read
WAIT WHAT
Nothing makes sense 🤣🤣
PDFs or google docs-
And feel free to ask questions lmao- we discuss a lot of stuff outside of the pins
they look like the fuzzy and pathetic caterpillars that wobble themselves across the yard in the summertime
No shipping stuff here please
Actually lemme send out a general psa: @pulsar iris will read any and all fanfics about sky you write, including comics. PLEASE SEND THEM I LOVE FANFICS
Oh okay sorry about that-
There we go
I'll just DM you when stuff happens Rose lmao
👀 PLEASE-
The pdfs
I feel like I have a vague understanding of the storyline now at least lol better than 10 minutes ago
Idk if I've ever come across the PDFs but I'm going to assume you're talking about the canon lore doc and the theory vault
Yep those ones
The theory Vault especially left me so confused lol
I might have to read the Canon lore pdf again to clear out all this confusion lol
It's just too much to read in one sitting 
It's alright, take your time with it!
Lol ye👍
The whole "us being the Eden Elder" thing is very interesting
Especially since there are so many terms and concepts used for this Eden Elder
The Megabird, the Prince or the King, || the Lil Shiny Boi before orbit ||, etc
I don't get the Megabird thing though, seems a little, out of the blue?
Oh no need to spoiler tag-
What I'd definitely like to research more deeply is the giant cucumber looking whale thing you see before orbit
Like......... What on earth is that 🤣🤣🤣
the cucumber whale thing ajkajsjsak- whatever it is, it's a whale, and it shows up in other places too
Like in Hidden Forest and the space between Valley and Wasteland
Yeah in Sanctuary islands right?
It's unknown if it's the same whale in all instances
Oh the one in Sanctuary Isles is different
The one in Sanctuary is an elder manta
Why'd i never saw it in between valley and wasteland
They're diff species hh
Where is it in Forest???
I have no idea where that was :0
It's in the cloudless pocket before GW social space hh
In sunny forest when u enter it comes out immediately
Like- you know that huge thing that comes from the clouds in the Underground area
Wait u mean Wasteland?
Really?? I'll have to look at that again
Woah where is that
I've seen it in videos but I can't seem to find that place
Forest cavern
When u enter your camera pans to there and it shows the cucumber whale
You can access it through a tree with an entrance to the left of the exit to the boneyard
Boneyard? Where the whale call is?
Yes
There's 4 wl there too
OOOOOOO
Have fun exploring, !!
Thankqu 
It's interesting also how this whale is present wherever the darkness is present, Wasteland, forest, eden
Even though it seems to clearly be some sort of light creature
Could this also be some sort of a reincarnation of the Eden Elder?
Oh oh and the one in the Valley—GW transition get sucked up into the whirlpool into the broken temple too
Yeah
Lol it's so........ Round
that rotating thing in the distance wasn't a sun and it took me too long to realize that
it was the chonk whale
Another thing that could be interesting to look at is the architecture style of that structure in the picture and of the other structures on your way to orbit, to see if they resemble any other realms styles





CHONK WHALE 🤣🤣🤣
Xtra long chomk whale
Interesting though it's face seems to be made of stone
Oh ye- the architecture of Valley is consistent between Wasteland and Eden
Yee
Really???
Yes
Oooooo
U can see valley-like architectural style during ascension
Which is basically inside the castle
Interesting
And buried in the sands of Wasteland are Valley-esque buildings
Like after the peak (Valley) there was no more progress in civilization unlike the changes in architecture throughout isle to Valley
Just that first area after the hurricane though but traces of it can be seen in the other areas
Hmmmmmm
Could there be any time inconsistencies of like, valley like structures hidden in previous realms?
I can feel the essay about to come 
Prairie's more of a precursor to what you can see in Valley, and I don't know what was up with Forest other than they really like temples
Isle- Dawn, Birth, Primitive Civilization
Prairie- Daytime, Childhood, Iron Age/Medieval Age
Forest- Rain, Adolesence, Industrial Revolution
Valley- Sunset, Young Adulthood, Information Age(?)
Wasteland- Dusk, Mid-life Crisis, Rampant Consumerism/Downfall of Civilization
Vault- Night, Old Age, Remnants of Civilization
Eden- Storm, Death, Ruins

Oh there- that's a simplification of the symbolism found in each respective realm
There's a heavy use of dark stones in Forest too
I read that the top of Eden could just be one big dark stone, but what exactly is the evidence for this other than its shape?
The top of Eden is more of what you see when you Ascend to Orbit rather than the place you go to when you die
Remnants of a castle and such- idk about that darkstone bit tho, sorry :'DD
It doesn't make much sense to me since supposedly Eden was the dwelling place of the king, therefore should be made of light things? Unless of course the king was evil to some extent all along and corrupted the kingdom, the dark stone being a symbol of this
I haven't read about that either hh
Idk lol so much is running through my head rn I can't organize it all
Old concept?
Eden being made of darkstone to sail to the holy land
Or smth
On a big boat
Brrrrr
???? Idk either
Dark stone is an old concept thing too btw
Oh- Eden as an Ark theory
Ark?
There's no dark stone in the game rn
In the old concepts, eden was supposed to be a big ark
But the devs scrapped it then recycled it into Enchantment season
????? Really? But all the doors have these blue stones I thought those were the dark stones?
Those are power diamonds
Oh haha term confusion
Ah no no, not old concept
What exactly are the power diamonds then? Are they still made by darkness? Like the dark stones? Idek what those are anymore lol
It's an old beta thing
Oh?
Before darkness plants, it was dark stones that the skykids burn in Sky: Light Awaits
OOOO ok
Oh dear
Wdym
You're not aware of the manta juicer yet?
Apparently not
Oh dear
basically it's this thing
I just joined the server yesterday
You find it in Forest and a broken one in Wasteland
Mantas get crushed and juiced into manta essence and then put into diamond molds
A broken one in Wasteland? Interesting
Wow why tho
Why as in why mantas or why did they feel the need to make diamonds in the first place?
I guess option 2
Potentially it wasn't just the mantas that they crushed in there btw
Technology ✨
But Ig that would just be inevitable corruption, maybe starting with the king
But how do we know it used mantas?
And notice the variety of functions that a power diamond brings to the table- they're convenient, and a natural consequence of a progressing civilization
Really? Interesting
They probably used mantas because they're big and big means more juice
Good luck !!
Ah- okay good luck then XD
Really enjoyed it tho haha ngl
Once you enter this place you can never get out
your brain cells are now part of us lmao
I feel like not understanding the game is part of the fun haha 
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yeye- that way we have room for making more theories
It's more fun when you start staring at the little details
Cya- and good luck on the English oral XD
Oof brb gotta pass some assignments too
And I gotta candlerun I'm kinda broke-
crush mantas into diamonds yes
I come into the chat and this is what I see lmao
what's the topic?
Do you think they juiced the birds too? Since we see spirals of them heading towards the forest temple or are mantas easier to catch so they're endangered now
Well, imo I believe they also juice birds
Same here- it could have worked on any light creature for all we know
ye
Oh yeah- once I think there was a theory that the whurtles in Graveyard were light creatures and that they were raised there specifically so they could be juiced
oh ye
wow... that... is inappropriate....
i dont think u should say that in a family friendly server lol
even guns arent allowed...
your name i mean
not wut u said
what
Hey guys
Lol
well, just crabbed
XD so you all lost wl
Well, crabbed
nah just the chat
Ye
I know
Welcome back to....CHAT GOT CRABBED (deffo not a rip off of Chat Got Krilled)
eh, pretty sure they're both the same
We are done about the story theory of the Ark
What other season we could talk about who had a story in ?
I know season of belongings is about a family from hidden forest
ig
i would like to talk abt the sacrifical bird
They said it was from beta
if it wasnt scrapped and its not a bug, we could make up lore
and theories
yk?
then when someone asks next time
Are you talking about the big bird in Valley ?
we should have a better response than "eh, its from beta"
the one on the stone slab yes
hmmm
Iirc one of the devs popped in and said that there's still room for lore for that stone slab bird
omg i have a theory
Dude, they said it was an old thing from old version of the game and beta
You just meditate and the bird being alive and fly away
So it's not entirely limited to beta now
Maybe also whats keeping the orbs floating
Well I'm sorry... It's a song and I can't predict who can read Hangul
Same goes for other beta leftovers- all of them still have places for in-universe lore in the finished product
haha a lot of us are from korea including me
That is actually really cool haha
Granted. It does look different from everything else in game. Its possible they might have just LEFT it there for decoration. But im gonna chill out with a bunch of silly theories anyway, even if I don’t believe them.
But I didn't say anything did I?
sooooo... my theory is that they fattened up a light swallow like they do when making
foie gras and thats the bird right there... its light keeps our flight energy charged and the whatsitcalled floating with even one diamond...
im not a mod so i cant rlly force u to do anything lol
u do u
aaaannnnd chat is ded
does.. anyone know what lore we already canonically have
I changed my name, has it loaded yet?
👍
let me get the biblecanon doc
im in love with u
what
THANK you
I realize the last one was inappropriate it's just that I've had that username for a long time specifically so that my friends from another server would recognize me.
I'm very sorry I meant no harm I just really like that song
thank you for pointing that out though I probably wouldn't have noticed otherwise
haha no prob lets rlly get bacc on topic
sorry... 
sometimes this chat just feels like a sopwith camel...
What's that 👀
its a plane that was in service during ww1 that was notorious for getting out of control and killing its pilots
🙃 Oh boy
here its so hard to keep on topic... lol
Lol understandable
It's a wide community i don't think its exclusive to this chat rip
e
f
so what now?
Why r the elders labeled with Hebrew Letters?
Just curious huhu it seemed like a very interesting choice
its from the concepts
They are :?
so not canon
They were
ye..
I actually studied Hebrew for a little while that's why I was surprised
haha good for u
at 1:50 in the afternoon?
No at 11 pm at night 🤣🤣
wait u arent in korea rn?
Nope
oh.
I'm not Korean huhu
Just an avid BTS Army 🙃
ohhhh
I've been studying Korean for over a year and a half now
bye
bye
imma just say smth right here so i set the next record fro longest krilling
hah
you again! i shall not lose!

hmmmm
so jus clarifying yall saying this is a gun? 


bai



, here i come...