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Found the diamond mask thing I went to find.
Hmm
Speaking of shields, the wasteland guardian got a shield right?
I don’t see any spear, but it does have two swords.
Wait that might be one of the 5 masks that surround the Eden door?
Wait what does the Eden door look like again-
Sun shield.
I assume they collect the light animals/resources in forest to be juiced out in the temple then to be distributed to another realm 
The wasteland altar had that shield resting on the right side
this is probably the longest that we've gone until someone alluded to the two Shields Theory-
Hm?
The shields suggest two sides to the war. Different emblems on the shields, different weapons.
Sun and diamond shields plus a spear normally leads into the discussion about the war in Wasteland
Can we please use a word other than juice-
I'm drinking rn-
j u i c e
That’s the fastest summary of two shields theory.
B r u h
Yeah sword i mean pfft
“We must liquidate our assets.”
-Forest Elder, probably
I initially thought they fought against krill. Not each other :'(
The barricades are useless against krill
I see
who would literally just fly right over them
To be fair, original story was man/ancestors vs angry spirit-animals. But the cut that. Or said they would.
It's not impossible they fought krill but the war likely wasn't meant for them
not at first anyway
Also one thing i saw in orbit was that the whole eden castle has some similarly to all the other realms
Like the vault statue
But what caused the war?
We don’t know definitively. This is where you’ll get colorful answers.
A h
There's a theory that's basically two sides, one wanted to use light for industrial purposes, and the other wanting the light to be naturally used-
oh god- there's a variety-
Derg named the first one
And even with that there's a couple of ways to interpret it
Once I think I remember Brick or someone else mention a coup
There's also generally the more environmentalist stance where they just flat-out disapproved of light creatures getting juiced like that
Pyre's take involved the Eden diamond iirc
I'm sorry but juiced always gets me 
I personally believe it was a rebellion. The kingdom was very happy with how productive things were, and every area had their place and helped the kingdom prosper in its unique way. And then king decided to build the diamond to push the productivity into overdrive, and suggested the taboo of harnessing the light in Eden. I suppose crabs had started to be seen, perhaps krill.
King plans defenses, Wasteland fights with King, Vault goes Swiss and locks their self up in, well, Vault, and late to the party Wasteland switches sides. Then king turns the diamond on and just as a last resort. Sucks up all the light/life. From both sides.
Would you like it with or without the manta pulp?
vault gOES SWISS AKJSJAKSJAJK
Oh yeah- Chrome mentioning the Wasteland Elder is one of the quirks of Two Shields
"The king turns the diamond on" 
Because Wasteland Elder uses both shields, we're not sure if he defected or not- and if he did, from which side to what is unclear
I believe I’m picking up what you’re putting down. I’m catching your drift. I’m reading those signs. I’m understanding your jargon.
that is the most 'an adult trying to relate' thing I have ever read
and it's glorious-
Random question but what are the ancestors-
Is it just another name for the spirits, or?
Trivia: you can still ride one of the boat that used to be in prairie dock
Ancestors are spirits ye
Oke thanks-
I search in vain for the invisible boat. I hope one day to find it and figure out where it fits in Ali’s boat doc.
Shtwkwtkeykwtw noooo

anyway where were we again-
Boats.
Turning on the diamond
There’s an old version of prairie villages outside of the caves. I just. Can’t fight past the windwall and it aches my heart.
Omg yessss
I know that sky is up to interpretation but what do you guys think about sky kids in regards to biology? As in are they living, made of rock or whatever, or something else? I wanna hear others opinions
Golems-
Golems
Tiny little light golems-
Psychopomp golems
They even do windows.
yes we're completely serious-
Cause in my little sky universe they're a mix of both? Idk
Don’t be shy have some more tell us your theory.
I think they are just dolls send from sky to return thr light. And the little chest diamond powers them
Uh. I did a little diagram a while ago but I'll try to explain
if dolls were moving around and honking that's technically a golem-
wait does this make the toys from Toy Story golems
inanimate matter with a will
the discussion we love to see in lore chat
If you wanna talk about biology and science, talk to Pyre
He made a whole ecosystem map thingy
I'd recommend reading beta history if you haven't from pins
Hoo hoo, before Toy Story there was the Mayan creation story. A whole age of humans managed to anger the gods, so the gods animated their belongings and were butchered by said belongings.
So when sky kids are born they pretty much just fall tfrom the sky as moths. But in my universe they are also actually whatever their mask is. Like its their face. Ut this is just for animal msks. So like moth appearance besides the mask. But this isn't my point ill continue anyway
Hold on ppl
He seems. Nice.
OH- so if they have like a bunny mask they have those attributes as well?
I don't think so the masks and outfit seems to be a game thing
I know that- just in terms of Beans's universe here
Like, Skykid see Ancestors do, Skykid do.
A quick heads-up, Pyre's backreading capabilities are godly
by god my English is all over the place today
You’re Englishing just dandy, good netizen.
E n g l i s h i n g
I only know one sentence in Tagalog.
We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @exotic berry. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.
Wut
Then back to lore
Basically sky kids are made of clay, with their little light cores which is essentially their heart and holds their energy. Because of this they are malleable and can change their appearances, but not their tribe(animal species).
Going on to their organs(?) Or whatever. They have veins that carry light and "blood" which is liquefied red candle wax. They also use this to summon their red candles. Kinda weird but anyway. In this universe they do have food, but it is not required to live(in most cases) and is mostly for special occasions. When the food is eaten it goes to a stomach, Which is turned into light somehow, and goes to a "light stomach" connected to the light core. They also have lungs, used for bursts of energy like deep calling. I always think of it as screaming really loud.
don't worry the same thing happened to me once when I tried describing my language XD
Everyone else saw the bot notice, right?
Uhm what haven't I covered...
W o a h
Aha sorry lmao
You and pyre will be the best of friends :)
that happens ye- once I tried describing a Filipino myth and I got that notice-
And I didn't really think of it in real science terms cause I'm not that good
Just uhh this thing happens cause I said it does :)
It's Sky- we're allowed to suspend our disbelief XD
Well your proposal was still sound
And possibly valid >:^)
So here in this world they technically have blood. Which also makes candles. So candles made of sky kid blood. Wacky
Sdggkdf thank you
R e d c a n d l e s
Yeah
That’s not a bad theory. I don’t think they literally have candle wax, (or eat?) but we know from dark plants that something like veins can be used to transport light (try burning one and letting it recover).
Mhm
if they bleed and they bleed wax will that be them waxing
Question though
I still wanna know your takes on the "light tribute"
You mean like to the statues in eden?
Like, when you collect enough wax/light
And you clicc that candle button to get a new candle from the sky-
Oh I see it as sky kid currency, like wax is change and candle is a dollar, sorta
Mhm
after the update I just saw that as Candlemaker sending his love down from the heavens- as a joke-
I wonder where those candles actually come from-
(He sails the skies, and knows if you’ve been naughty or nice.)
I thought you collect the wax and the isle elder forges it into a candle and just gives it to you-
I’m having images of King as a classic Krampus figure.
About the food thing I do have a character who does need to eat meat to survive, but that's related to how he was born and a bunch of other stuff
All those poor mantas XD
H u h
@hushed steeple I imagine the sky kid takes all the goey wax out of their bodies and let it set in the cold air
imagine this giant hulking building of a man just going down to the village of dreams
with a sack
Which is ironic because he wears the manta cape
If Candlemaker were a Santa analog, King could be Krampus.
do we even want to know what’s in the sack
N e ways
W o a h
Candles
no- no we do not-
Yes. Yes. Y e s. But he’s so big. That he freezes when you look out your window.
We only collect wax-
Just bits of fabric? Ion know
are candles made from processed manta fat?
Or we litter
I think I know why sky got no mammals-
So it says on google that wicks are braided cotton-
Candle wax was originally made of animal fat for pete's sake-
Hmmm
candlemaker give us answers
Welcome to lore chat, btw, @steep karma and @hard minnow
The big brain cell juicer family welcomes you XD
Someone do the thing with new moff lore things.
Again with the JuiCE
The doc?
Yep-
But there are unevolved birds still and jelly and mantas
Usually I just have those ready-
Yeah I’ve been through it haha
More or less. Has concept art and livestreams.
And I do XD
Ohh
Speaking of jellyfish
My lore is so inconsistent lmao
Irl ones retain their shape thanks to water
If they're taken out of it
They become
Well-
Flat.
oh yeah as for the mammals- one theory proposed they're all extinct
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
lore moff- credits to Bricky
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit
canon sky lore
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit
theory vault
gOD AKSJKAJKSK
Ty!!
I want to look at it later
Then again sky jellies are magic so- :'D
Can I bookmark it or something loke thst?
I. Shall go play the game. You have all been lovely. But I need to dress like the lovestruck postman and ~~get his mask. ~~
I mean
Copy paste the link on your gadget "notes app"
Aight cya Chrome- have fun being a rabbit
you can copy the links
Are those in pinned messages?
If you got one
Hold down the message, and select copy message link. Or do what they’re saying.
Ok ty
Along with the rest of the materials we get our lore from ye
Like old beta Sky
And concept arts
Anyone got lore for the blue eggs in broken bridge area?
Aviary = chamber of guf
But w h y
Thanks guys
H o w ? ¿
What happened 2 my homies
If I remember it correctly it's purely because of natural selection
Aw-
Sucks for them x
Simply due to the fact that they aren't light or dark creatures, they died off
Right
In this universe, all creatures we see are spontaneously generated from light particles
Guess the sky universe hates grey then-
In my world they have the capacity for either, so sorta neutral
And yes I do mean all as in including dark creatures- PRESUMABLY, because of how that quote was worded
Theres stuff to do with the darkness plants too
Is it okay to post images here? I wanted to ask about a thing in forest
Oh yeye- as long as it's related to lore
I keep being like "in my sky universe" who am i
*remembers the hundreds I sent
Ofc mayt-
Haha
This is what happens when I am encouraged
It glows when you touch it and stops when you don’t
Ohhhh- the clock
It’s a clock??
Isn't that a clock for thr rainbow
Ohhh
Exactly the one ye
Looks like a timer-
Ayayay I was right
For cooking-
Sometimes if I have nothing to do I wait for it
Thank you!!
Shdjfjdj yw
But anyone have any ideas abt the blue eggs?
Nah nah cooking the pot of gold
Oh- literal easter eggs
I dk but I wanna see other ideas
The last mammals 👀
I remember that one comic where it was a baby krill egg
Not much to them really- they're literally Easter eggs
it was really cute
Yeah in my universe they were krill eggs
interesting!
They can be turned into sky kids by giving them a winged light
Your character looks like someone I met in the vault breakdancing-
Sounds like me
wow ive been spending too much time in gen and cozy im unused to no slowmode 
They become a demon lmao
Welcome back to the sneepy on the best of times chat-
Was there a moth who either clapped, or sat in the corner nearby?-
But r basically a normal sky kid except stronk and need to eat meat
that sounds cool
Kinda cause the krill always be attackin u, presumably to eat u ●○●
And they have bad peripheral vision
The demon sky kids i mean
As a bonus they can eat darkness plants without any ill effects, though they are bitter and spicy
In my lore they are seen as a bridge between light and dark
Cool
Though kind of feared by the other sky kids
it is 1:30 am. and now i want to eat darkness plants.
There are also lions living in gw and they intentionally eat the darkness plants even though they're bad
lions??? omg

Cause they are spicy and poisonous and make you salivate to appear more fierce and scary in general
Yeah the gw lions aren't cute most of the time
They b waging war
They hunt krill
that will not stop me from “pspspspspsps” them

Another thing to note is that tribes used to only live in specific realms before being scattered into small groups after the Big Fight Event that wrecked things
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The only place that has proper cities is valley
Its almost all masked sky kids, you know not animal ones
They are pretty much oblivious of life outside of valley
And in their dances and competitions, they dress loke birds
Which offends a character of mine when he goes there cause he's an actual bird
do the kids see your bird boy and go “oh nice mask”
Yes! He's the only one who doesn't need to wear a disguise
ahh sweet
And they need to find manta meat for the demon boy and everyone's like "manta meat?? Why would you eat mantas on a regular day???" Because valley kids love the mantas and don't eat em
So they have crab soup instead
And he never eats birds cause his best friend is a bird and that would be rude
Imma stop talking abt my lore for 1 minute and play sdghkdf
oki! i think it’s all very cool btw 
So uh-
Anything on what dat is
Just a bug or lore 
It could be lore. Those two lines seem to be reminiscent to the valley twins. They also appear the be tilting to the right. Incidentally, in every pair shown in the valley: from the realm gate top to even the statues in the race, it's always the right one that has something broken.
Either that or it's really a bug-
Idkman
Hmmmmm 
Thats basically what i first thought
Got anything about the bird before the orrery? All I've got for my world is to do with people who sacrifice moths :|
Like what lore do yall have abt it
But the normal sky kids in valley have their own take on it, whatever that is
Theres actually like. A sad little story i made up about a moth who was sacrificed. They're a ghost now askgdghsd
Also what does the timer thing on the side of forest temple do?
for the rainbow :^)
The bird before the Orrery is actually a leftover from old beta
It doesn't look to resemble any of the birds flying through Sky and so far that's two people who I've seen refer to it as some sorta sacrifice lmao
It's a statue of some kind but I wouldn't be that surprised to see it used in a sacrificial ritual or smthn
One of many quests iirc
I appear
Heya Meow-
i dunno too much about the bird statue beyond 'old beta quest' help me out here-
LADS LADS
VALLEY CONSTELLATION IS NOT BALANCED
What
like- in terms of stars or-
Wait lemme get the pic-
The shape is not balanced
So far the I have that the normal kids see it as a sacrifice from some kind of deity and have a festival for it, and the bad ppl have it as their motif icon thingy/ place to sacrifice moths
Just geometrically off-putting-
Like it's angled at a lower level
My sky world sdfgjdj
My universe? Generally off putting lol
Yeah we gotta have some villains
so uh
OH- is it the paddle-
right line is not like left one-
the little hook at the end
ye the paddle
Yeau I noticed the asymmetry, but I thought it may be to make it seem more naturally constellation like
Or maybe bc the elders are not identical so
Eh
i mean
if that is the case... why the actual constellation is symmetry?
like iunno man this seems sus
It isn't, right?
it is symmetry
Valley kind of merits a special mention because this is the one that you'd expect not to be asymmetrical but then again
only the gate one is asymestry
Valley's motif of having one broken half of a whole is off-putting in general
You're right dfgjsf
Valley wants to give people perfectionist a bad time
Yeah there's a lot of imagery referring to one half being broken, but which one?
Mostly the right side? idk
Yeah right side
Citadel and the statues in the races come to mind
Like
Why the right side tho 
Which elder would that represent
I'd say whoever has the prosthetic on their right
Did the elders get into a fight and then broke one of the ear or idk and then commanded the people to do the same thing throughout the whole area and even the realm portal itself
but then what would be up with the one who has their prosthetic on their left-
some part of me wants to think the Twins were like 'hey you know what would tick some people off'
and proceeded to just wreck random parts of their realm
Mmm myes make royal like architectural buildings must be destroyed on the right side
People have done dumber things
like apply to the wrong academic strand-
and now have to be committed to that strand-
Dude I’m motivated to do these theories and not do my school work 
Does anyone have the lore moff docs- i need it for a friend owo
Search in convo with the magnifying glass on the top
We are probably made out of clay outside and our insides are just a candle
K, thanks
Hey! I have a theory about sanc! Wanna hear it?
So everyone here is (hopefully) aware if the geysers in sanc, and that points to volcanic activity. There is a theory of sanc being a dormant volcano, but, I’m here to propose another theory related to that, and it involves some geology so get ready
L
I will be taking research of New Zealand and it’s volcanic activity, please correct me if I’m wrong
Yeah come to see think of it like what are those thing that launch you in the air and thats how the sanctuary spirits died L for them
The Tectonic plate that NZ is on (the Pacific Plate) is getting pushed into the mantle by the Australian plate, this has lead to NZ having major volcanic activity. If Sky has tectonic plates (specifically areas like wasteland, isle, valley, and forest), that must mean the volcanic activity in sanc must be caused by sanc’s plate (well call that the Sanc Plate) must be getting pushed under by the Isle Plate.
So this could also point to sanc having earthquakes, too, as it must be on a fault line.
So does this make sense or nah? Hope y’all liked it
Thanks
According to the map that @true grove posted (thanks so much), there could possibly be tectonic plates
It's all in pins there are more pics
Yes there might be tectonic plates. I'd love to see lava in sky.
Me too
Oh yeah there is also 2 hot springs that I know of in the new area in valley, so that could also be caused by volcanic activity
One is currently blocked off but I’ll show the other one
2 
my suggestion? its mushroom hqir
they have prosthetic right arm, and they didnt have mask horn like asparagus hair
Here’s the hot spring
i see no any volcano near
Maybe the volcanic things are like ring of fire
:D
The gysers are in order surrounding sanc
So um
Ring of fire ?
I live in the ring of fire and quite to say I’m used to strong typhoons
And earthquakes
Neighboor
Yes yes
gysers do be making hot stuff
if its like that why are the other water areas in sanc aint like a hot spring
mind you I’ve had 22 typhoons last year
It’s hard to explain in english ;-;
I only got 1/2 earthquakes jsjsjsjs
It was at night :,D
It was smol
More recent one is as strong as one of the worst typhoons... didn’t get hit by it that much.
you could just translate your language into google translate
Ring of fire is like volcanic circle the water doesent get hot only rocks fly everywhere ;w; if the volcanoes have small holes in them they Boil, Gyser (sorry grammar”) Is just uh depict it as small volcano in land it has water inside the hole ontop of the gyser body :D, Gysers they say are near the lake thingy (like idk The water like moat lake thingy)
Have no more to say


make sense
Tryna do this but h
if it has the way to make gysers where are the hot springs which is kind of a deep pond idk which it does have on sanc

never thought actual science would arrive here in lore-
"water percolates deeply enough into the crust, it comes into contact with hot rocks and can circulate to the surface to form hot springs. Geysers are the most well known geothermal feature. ... The water in these deep cavities is heated by nearby magma. Suddenly, some of the water flashes into steam and expands rapidly"
it seems hot springs need rocks in order to form their spring while geysers need magma underground seeing sanc dosent have much rocks around it makes sense which it dosent have that hot spring form. Now looking at the season of dreams hot spring it seems its form its like sanc itself but why does it have 2 hot springs i see no rocks formation in or out of the springs anywhere from the pictures taken
indonesian noises
Pyre: "Hold my sky cotl biological ecosystem chart"
2 more observations before I do my hw
- For some reason, only now did I realize the skids and their clothing are suspicously fire-proof
- Their default tops are similous to kimonos. The left part is over the right, which in Japan indicates the wearer is alive.
i see we've been talking about the disaster that is the filipino climate
and the ring of fire in general ksakjskajk
ring of cheese
try living in this ring of cheese I guarantee it is nothing fun-
on that note geysers and hot springs are ONLY present around places with volcanic activity
mind you those wouldn't exist without it
yeashh
about how far apart from each other are Sanctuary and Valley anyway-
just- on all axes
The Village at least is on the slopes? but the hot springs themselves are situated ON the slopes and not the bottom of them
and that's still pretty high up and that worries me a bit-
this is cursed
volcanic eruption begins
It could be underwater for all we know
The volcano I mean-
We haven't seen much evidence of a volcano existing above sea-level so far I think
they're all below sea
what even is that-
NZ is part of the ring of fire
fire trial from the distance
Yes
cheese
The final element^^^



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Hi guys, I’m back to lore!
Excuse me for asking but what do the dark dragons play in the storyline?
Did they play a part in the death of the ancestor spirits or what?
Ping me if you wanna answer I don’t mind
oh, i think they are just corrupted light creatures
I kinda forgot but Yes ig

Freezing channel, again...
That’s a cool concept but if so shouldn’t the light kids have the ability to un corrupt them? I kinda wanna see a light dragon
is the statue in the village Dora or Kakashi?
Village of Dreams
?
yep
Well, some people say that it’s most likely Dora
What if when a krill collects enough winged light from skykids, they reborn as a shiny boy?
It eats mantas, though
Hmm, true but I don’t think it cant be reborn
if you look at the statue from the sides, it looks like Dora. But if you look at it from the front, it looks like Kakashi
Shiny boys just stand still, so same level of smartness as for krills
Cool

I love ur pfp Moth
me?
Freezing AGAIN
omg, i just found a incredible pic of previous eden in this channel
The big crystals in eden do the same, do krills have that crystal in them? 
i think they just eerily float

my argument on why dark dragons are related to krill: they have so many legs, they usually appear in places with water (semi-aquatic?), they have some kind of swimming movement, other stuff that I haven't noticed
it could be, multiple people have actually theorised this
the closest thing we can get is C H O N K whale
My theory is that krills were peaceful creatures living under the clouds like the whales do, but they have been forced out and mechanized to be a light killing machined used for war. They had control over what the krill does, like how they appear when there is an unauthorized open of the GW temple.
Then ever since the fall of the Sky Kingdom, these krills thrived under the polluted clouds to feast on the remaining light living in it, maybe explaining the dead whales in Graveyard.
but I feel like this was an obvious explanation of them and i should really sleep for it is 2 am here
Anyone figure out why the yeti has a chipped horn?
Ha- Have you seen the wasteland beast concept, doesn't look peaceful to me.
y e s and i don wanna see it again-
what I come in here and see....
This part is particularly interesting to me
The king concept never made it neither in earlier beta versions
If you read the beta history album you can see most of the concepts made it
I'm surprised how many awesome ideas they have to throw out the window just because of compatibility and game play 
Ok big guys. The ones at the end of every world. What is their purpose.
I-
Wow that’s terrifying hahaha
I WAS ABOUT TO SLEEP PLSSS- 
I cant see the picture it does not load what is it?
Same but these photo albums are just making my brain tickle

What I love about prairie is that their concepts and designs were so precise, it hardly changed compared to the other realms. I do wish they added the dark prairie cave back
I mean it's technically the official poster location for Sky 
from the trailer to the ost album cover
-more reasons why prairie is the best realm
@teal plank copy-> paste
If you were asking about the different names you can go change your nick name in a channel
So something I’m just now thinking about...
If we have a Postman,
then we have postcards.
If we have postcards, we have a written, intelligible language.
The symbols from vault could give answers
Ty
what do yall think about the difference between the shipwreck and the forgotten ark
theyre both boat type things in the world of sky but why are they so different
I think that they were carrying different things... I don’t know what the ark was doing but the shipwreck was carrying the diamonds created by forest
also more lore questions i have
what was the purpose of the races/who made them? they seem to just be a city covered in snow/clouds then someone decided to call it a race?
wheres the actual "city" in valley? the race subtitle says race down the ridges and the city gates will open or smth like that but what is the actual city part?
well the ark seems to carry light (ofc) and from the murals it appears they they went on the same path that we were going, can see all the realms and the storm
i wonder what crabs taste like :,)
random observations
- they mine light and store it in pots, sometimes as bubberfloos
- theyve been mining ever since isle of dawn, seen by the third spirits memories near the temple
- dark plants seem to grow from these mines?
I think the races where for entertainment and prestige. Just like the village of dreams there’s places in sky we don’t have access to yet. But you can see over the cloud cover that there’s home spaces for the previous sky ppls. The twins using the technology developed by forest where able to create a metropolis. Where young and old, Rich and poor, are able to enjoy sports.
but the races (spceifically sliding) looks basically like a town that got buried in snow
there are random rooftops and stuff peeking out
IMO I think they might have been knocked over by the storm/ didn’t realize it got REALLY bad before it was too late.. or a krill got them idk
yea
also the flying race is interesting
there are just rocks out of nowhere? the second half of flying race is also kinda reminiscient of between eden and orbit
That area could have been repurposed before the collapse... I mean the society was on the brink of collapse so it would make sense to move citizens, and then make the area for fun to distract from their impending doom
everything seems to fall apart and stuff is just everywhere jFASKLFDJALKFJ
hmm perhaps
also i rly wanna see some art of gw ut without the corruption
Someone made a fan art of it when we talked about it a few months ago... It was a cross between forest and valley
ye
I’m assuming the collapse did that haha
the beginning of gw looks just like valley but destroyed
hmm
im wondering how everything got destroyed tho
theres just sand and water everywhere
the buildings didnt knock themselves down right 😭
Have you read about the power diamond yet?
no
im assuming u mean the volano in eden
volcano
Have you been to Eden yet?
yes
also lore is def full of spoilers so i wouldnt be talking here if i havent been right 😭
The closer you get, the more clear the object becomes. It’s not a volcano, but a massive cracked diamond.
o i think of it as a volcano
it spews out dangerous stuff and its at the top of a mountain
hm
another lore question:
what were skids trying to do at eden? like the ones we saved
like we as skids were trying to save other skids but what was the very first skid there trying to do?
(I’m not out of the convo I’m just looking for the general doc haha)
In any case. Most people assume the diamond in some way led to the destruction of Eden and what we now know of as Golden Wasteland.
The architecture looks similar to Valley because they were close to one another.
yes ive heard of that
the diamond is literally why the skids decease
We don’t know for certain. Bricky, ViridiAve, or Kamilico may have better answers than I.
id assume they were trying to dismantle the uh
broken diamond
is what ive heard
and itkinda makes sense
ou
Some of these I don’t agree with personally, but most of these have the general consensus
It’s been argued that the Skykids’ job was never and has never been dismantling the diamond.
But it’s possible.
I saw a theory here awhile ago that us attempting to save the skykids is the very thing that’s helping the destruction
We collect kids then go up the storm, and sacrifice ourselves. The sacrifice is actually feeding the power diamond
Interesting theory. I don’t know if I’ve seen it before, but I don’t personally agree with it. But, still, it’s an interesting theory.
Yea same
I’m really happy about dreams though, I love seeing the spirits do regular life stuff. But I’m REALLY interested in the yeti??
Is there a race of yeti ppl?? Just hiding in valley, do they still exists??
then what were they doing
maybe the king/prince was the one who broke the diamond and they started the huge cycle of death among skids
Have you heard of the corrupted king theory?
but only our corpse is left there
all the light or energy that owuld be feeding the diamond gets smashed out of us by rocks
a bit but ima be honest i forgot everything about it lmao
Look through the pins and see if that helps answer some of your questions. Most answers are to be taken with a grain of salt, as we rarely have concrete conclusions to our questions.
Which feeds into the sacrifice theory, when you reach the diamond’s edge you come across a small area with dirt water.. maybe the water soaks up your wings and leeches into the crystal idk lmao
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24 here’s the link again if you want to look @sharp summit
Does Anyone Have a Big Picture of The Office Poster that explain the meaning of Ages on each map?
Psst in the future please disable the ping when replying to old messages 
thats what i have uhh
eden eder looking rather square too 
King is in office poster, I must have completely overlooked him. Glad a tiny tiny picture of him is still in game.
i think hes on somemurals too
I think the diamond was originally a connection to Orbit, so the people of sky kingdom could be reborn when they die. A “road to heaven”. But after it got corrupted, it got a little messed up. Thats why all the spirits are stuck in sad statue mode rather than being reborn. Trapped souls. My view anywho.
Maybe the poor lil sky babies are trying to go up to see if they can still find, meet and save the eden elder, only to realize more are up there to be saved, die in the process rinse and repeat.
Oh right, hes also on a vault mural, just....a little spindlier.
The giant statues in gw look like him as well
ye
How many basegame spirits are there and how many statues can we save In Eden?
also i feel like its kinda weirdchamp taht after u give an elders followers money for clothes the elder just gives u their hair 
63 statues. Forgot how many spirits uhhhh.
zzz i can count
isle 3
dawn 8
oops
*prairie 8
forest 8
valley 7
gw 6
vault 5
37 base game?
ye
So that leaves the question... who are the spirits that are scattered without a memory?
We already know they aren’t seasonal spirits, because when they come back as traveling spirits they give a wing buff
Also why are the vault spirits more expensive? Do they give more wings than the other realms?
Not sure I understand where spirits without memories are, and vault spirits are totally more expensive because they are full of themselves for being fancy scholars or something. Same amount of buffs, but things like white cape and table are highly desired.
Spirits without memories are just the open light kids like the one on top of the ladder in vault or the one at the boat in isle.... maybe? But is it just a matter of spirit power then? Cause none of the other spirits could levitate or do telekinesis
Oh. I don’t think Winged lights are spirits. Lot of debate on what they are. Candidates include souls/light of other sky kids, the left behind memories of the Prince, unknown previous generations of stars or skids, and the Prince himself split into many many pieces. I think Vault stuff just counts as end game stuff, prolly video game reason honestly.
Summoned ViridiAve
Basically you know how sometimes I refer to them as memories of the Prince
Morning! If I’m not mistaken, aren’t you the one that made the before corruption dan art of wasteland?
uh- nope-
Whoops
haven't done any lore related art
Mb
not yet anyway XD
anyway- about the Winged Lights- in relation the the spirits and the Wing Buffs they can give you, I think the Prince also imprinted on those spirits
Either as a shared memory or however else you imprint on someone in a way that isn't gross
“What a nice young lad! He left such a good impression, I think I will keep a fragment of him to give away someday.”
Yeah about that- maybe it was a thing that they gained when the Prince became sovereign?
I personally think Spirit wing buffs are something they each personally have, and can give. Its just that the princes was strong enough to be a bunch of them. Soul energy or somthing.
I still want to stick with the imprints thing because of the similarities between Wing Buffs and Winged Lights but having the spirits be capable of giving something like that when they Ascend is intriguing
Granted, Im sure he would be a pretty popular king if he personally knew every one of his subjects.
It would be cool if after you collect a certain amount of memories, you can get access to the prince’s like after your first 100 wings collected you get to see the prince’s memory. And then you get a new one at 150 and 200
If someone were dedicated enough, they could probably create a narrative out of the first set of winged light we encounter. If each pose is Prince in that particular area, then it’s like a scene in a movie.
Hello Ali. Welcome back to the wondrous land of lore.
@exotic berry ooh, montage!
Oh, @pseudo heart , did you include Candlemaker’s boat in your boat doc?
Pointing candle maker's boat is a var 1 boat
Mkay! Wunderbar.
I didn't add it in the chart but ejwjnd imma update it when I put the dreams lift and uhhh mural boats
Is the chart in the lore vault or are you updating elsewhere?
Huh,,, was I supposed to put it there xiahbsjsdiiwhd
I haven't put ANYTHING in the lore vault 
I'm adding another page hhhhhh,, gonna draw more ฅ^•ﻌ•^ฅ
What do you think the prince’s life was like? How do you think his memories intertwine with the basegame or even seasonal spirits?
Not exactly. I think that would be a good place for it - it’s a wonderful little document. Do with it as you will 
If he is what’s causing the WL imprints, he seems to have been naive, innocent, curious. He seems to have explored just as much as we are now. We would know more about him I think if we knew what the constellation walls are (those that you can enter when you’ve found so many spirits), if they’re gameplay or canon, and if they’re canon how long they’ve been up.
When you’re new to the game you have to save a certain amount of spirits before they let you access a new area
Unrelated: the spirit orb near krebules keeps getting a dark cloud around it.
It’s an animated bit of darkness, and slowly dissipates after a time. I don’t think it’s a glitch. I just need to grab a chibi friend and swing them over it with their candle out. Ffff
Maybe the prince put them up?
From the locations the wl is at, and if those are fragmented imprints of his soul, then the world he lived in and the world we’re in aren’t so different
If one were inclined, you could draw similarities between the darkness that divided the light, and the spirit gates. When you find a spirit, you’re having them rejoin their place in the spiritual world and their appropriate constellation. So you’re uniting the light, undoing the division.
That’s certainly possible, if they’re who put the gates up.
I think that would require someone from vault blocking areas, they seem to be the only sky people with... special abilities
m a g i c
maybe
I feel like dreams is more of a uper class place compared to what could be lower on the mountain
also does this mean sky has a postal service?
yep
you can see the postman dragging packages
uhh on a cart or soemthing idk the name-
on a sled
oh ye sled-
they have doors
well
you are not wrong-
my country itself didnt have many mailboxes so yea-
mailboxes for each houses, i mean
the box thing with red flag
village seems like a nice community so I don't think there would ba any thiefs
with hermit on their sight, no thief would dare-

I swear it's not yeti
hshhshs i see that boop-
nah i think the skater did join the postman
seems like postman actually trust the skater-
tho the postman just leaving the packages there while running after yeti still isn't the best choice
i like how the postman just casually abandons their deliveries to follow a yeti minding its own business 
everyone trusts skater girl
bias number one, you see
Postman after senpai yeti.
yeah that's basically it
so a guy peeking while there is another guy peeking that being peeked by someone else
nice
why are my eyes just drawn to this-
triple peeks
Peekception.

KSJSKAJKS BEAT ME TO IT-
like here's him slipping away
he's not looking at the camera I checked
“You look for Bigfoot, but Bigfoot sometimes looks for you.”
“I-I have a d-d-delivery for you Mr. Yeti-s-San. Sorry it’s late uwu ~”
SKJAKSJKJAKSKAJK
Level four has hearts and a deep blush.
MY C O F F E E
I'm like 90% sure postman has a crush on ol' yeti
why must you say something so controversial yet so plausible
Tell me more of this theory that I have not heard of.
it's golden-
I don't got much on it but it's just a hunch
the letter has heart stickers that should not exist just yet plastered all over it
that I never get to see the whole way though 
and it smells like cookies
this confirms other countries
Right. Uh. Connotations of having experience of the world, no longer naive. Cosmopolitan. There’s a second layer to the joke that may not translate well. It’s an inference that gets lost in being explained. My apologies.
You’re perfectly fine!
So are they a refugee from another zone, like prairie? Or like. A neighboring country. Like. “This is Sky. Where are you from ?” “Land.”
don't refugees have to be from other lands?
She might just be taking refuge under the broken temple type of refugee.
I think this is the case in this instance.
Or just trying to escape the devastation of the city.
listen man I just want there to be more to a planet than what we see
like there has to be more
Wasn't there technically already proof of other lands with the Rhythm Troupe?
They're wandering performers
I hope there is.
I hope there’s more to explore, more to see.
and shipwreck it has to have come from somewhere else the ship just doesn't match other ones
and I think ark also could be from somewhere else
Could be the Titanic of its time. We also haven’t seen any other ports, so. But I hope there are other places.
Some of those from Ark have clothing that resemble the Vault Scholars'
to show it's friendly to our lands?
Like Enchantment Guide
they probably were
that or they were aware it happened and have steered clear of the land ever since
oh hey bricky!
Possibly, but in the concept art we see, Home itself is on the edge of the storm’s influence.
hello
hold on I need to check something brb
They heard the sounds of war coming from like miles off the coast and they're like 'yeah no turn back'
Take your time.
depending on the nature of the eden explosion, it could've made the kingdom unsafe to biological beings (ancestors), only accessible to skykids bc we're blessed with flame
back
didn't find what I was looking for sadly
now that we're on the possibility of other lands actually they're now a candidate of people the Ancestors could have been fighting against in Battlefield
perhaps an invading force that wanted the eden diamond for themselves 
giant yellow beam shoots up into space followed by a giant storm forming in mere seconds
"hey you think we should turn back?"
"what else are we supposed to do?"
*"how?
Its got krill horns in it though
it doesnt match actual krill horns at all
or any part of a krill's biology for that matter
what else could it be?
Its got large spiky unidentifiable spikes in it
Another form of a krill?
The bits kinda float. Still look sharp.
maybe a different creature all together
I don’t know if you all realize this but gw krill and eden krill are different. Eden krill are WAY stronger
contact with an eden krill extinguishes you
I think storm has something to do with that
contact with a wasteland krill doesnt do anything unless you're being attacked
When you use the home glitch in eden you still lose flight power. Home glitch in gw you just get slapped around but no real damage
has anyone here got krilled enough to be taken to the pity star? if so what happened when you died?
I need the info
got it
Does it say something like “lets not let that happen again”?
so it's the same when your skykid breaks like in storm?
No....words?
is there a shatter sound boop
When you fully die they take you to sky purgatory where you meet your light half. When you die outside of eden, the place for that is beyond the wind wall in home. You hug the light get your one wing back and they send you on your way
I don't want to lose 151 lights for this but if I have to, for science it is!
It’s easier to do it after an eden run haha, that way you start at like 50-60
oh good
Wait, do you keep your eden givin wing buffs?
Nope
Or do you have to do eden again to get them back?
To get them back you gotta go die agajn
die again in eden*
So you can cosplay a moth after a one wing challenge

Ohh
Yep sounds like a hassle.
I have met dedicated fake moths who have done that before
Running around capless is so hard 
anyways
what would the other -not sky- lands look like?
Once I flew over the gate from the first part of forest to the second, got extinguished, saw very briefly some words “you lost your flame, try not to let it happen again” or something and returned to home with all my eden buffs and collected WL intact.
No shiny hug though
You can reject?!
I'm thinking just about anything that main sky lands is missing
like tropics or a jungle or a volcano or whatever
Can confirm that Eden krill extinguish on contact. One poked his head in the redstone cistern and caught me by surprise.
yeah someone I knew did that
Yea eden krill are build different
i still think it's because of the storm
The rocks and the storm could help ngl
Quite possibly.
I remember being extinguished just by a krill passing over too close.....
so eden krill are like dark worms but with bones?
Though in my situation, I was safe inside, and for some reason the krill poked their head in the hole and just. Booped me.
or a exoskeleton idk
Ha. Funny.

well new topic
do the bird like masks exist with real birds we don't get to see or are they just artistic ambiguity
There’s no way to answer that definitively.
They may have been made from descriptions of animals that existed in the past, passed down through the generations.
funny belief of mine
since some water creatures are on land that means some air creatures are in water
Back to @sacred rapids question about other lands, thinking back to the first cutscene, the elders where sent to a planet, with an already made ecosystem. So was the planet created for the sky people or where there already inhabitants out of the land of sky that are isolated because of the clouds?
That actually makes a lot of sense. Imagine coral deer and whale elephants haha
I feel like the clouds where more like a protective measures
because in isle and sanctuary the clouds just kinda end and water is just out there
interesting
especially eden
has anyone tried turning up their render distance to see farther out on the water?
wha
its a joke

Honestly I think they might have existed once because stylized as they are, they resemble the creature just enough for them to just be born out of an ancient idea
Same goes for the other animal-based masks
Especially Prophecy
god English-
GIANT SPIDERS
actually hold on
there isn't any proof that the eden diamond was manufactured and no proof that it wasn't. stuff like mantas go to the same orbit we do for rebirth right? so that leads me to 2 conclusion,
1 the diamond was discovered in the mountain and it was draged up, shaped into what we see (beam was there already)
2 the diamond was manufactured and the beam is a indicator of where the best place to ascend was based on light creature patterns
I have fan art of the spiders
I veer into the latter one-
spider enemies coming into sky when
I kinda like the first one that I came up with
because it's like
"so Mr. King we found the source of the giant beam..."
"dig the mountain around it"
"wha-"
"did I stutter?"
I would like to see the spiders please

I'll dm it to you
and prophecy mural no3 (I think) have there being a caldera in that mountain which means either: it was dug out, or it's a volcano
which kind does the manta that got krilled belong to?
I'd say 1
Poor baby
F
i presume they got many wing slits along their maturation
also lads
can you imagine patting mantas
i cant
they might just go through any physical solid structure
like iunno why but i like to imagine mantas behaving like cats : fond of affection, showing their affection by pressing their body on us, and like to be patted-
you free them you are now adopted
jouske if i may ask your oc how does it feels like to pet manta
are their body smooth-
it's like actual cats if you feed it it will never let you go
as a cat owner i agreed
you don't adopt the cat the cat adopts you
just googled and irl manta rays do like head pats
to be fair we're all adopted by mantas
they yeet us in Prairie and take us for piggyback rides
if mantas behave like cats... how jellies behave would be?
like immortal hedgehogs but they're smooth
hedgehogs... now thats an interesting take
sorry- I've been exposed to too much Sonic-
hedgehogs? why hedgehogs
the person on reddit that made a comment on someone asking the same question I googled said that mantas are like sea puppies
soo
no please I would just die of happiness
well this sea puppies is not what you want to go near
affection or just straight ignore you-
i got stung by one before
i know it's not sky but like I'm saying it anyway
Jesus can take me now and I wouldn't care that's just heaven on earth-
oh-
they do so be careful with them
wait are manta and stingray the same species-

- Manta rays don't have barbs. The most obvious difference between manta rays and stingrays is the barb at the end of stingrays' tails. ... Stingrays don't use the barbs to hunt; they're a defense mechanism when threatened by predators.
why is devil rays in there
how... how many rays we have-
sorry about bringing that up back to sky manta
630 different species
Oh these babies
sweet jesus that's a lot of rays
nah nah i love mantas
oF SUNSHINE
Real disappointed
they didnt have tail :<
mantas are more less aggressive then stingrays
Yee
i have seen someone dance with shark
i wonder if its possible to dance with manta-
maybe
Probably
skys manta tail aint sharp right
ah yes
ah very big brain
Science 101
nonono don't say that
BRUHNsa
U can kiss them too hh
oi linnaeus where's the species n am e-
They flap and stuff it's so cute
flapping happily as they enter the juicer
NO—
NOOO
"Manta Rays are not dangerous. They are even harmless and can't hurt any diver or swimmer. They are usually very curious and swim around the divers. They can sometimes even jump out of the water to get rid off their parasites!"
well guess they are really sea puppies
make sense why the devs added them to sky
god no please a flock of those would make me cry
and see them die
wait
does manta rays give birth-
I cry at normal dogs living their best lives wHAT OF THOSE THAT COULD YEET ME INTO THE SKIES
AND FL A P
So cute and cuddly. Using their little fins to grab at you for hugs as you get the gears warmed up.
I did more googling and uh
I think I found the reason they choose manta as one of the sky creatures
I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE
please no
have you guys see mantas leap like dolphin
PLEASE YES
if you take by their heads it cant hurt you its only the tentecales

