lore-discussion-spoilers

[hushed steeple]

Anyway

Lets come up with elder nicknames

[queen locust]

Tis probably easy to guess who the Elders are even without them

[hushed steeple]

Isle - Colorado
Prairie - West Virginia
Forest - New York
Valley - Washington DC
GW - Alabama
Vault - Illinois
Elder - Utah

[queen locust]

oKAY NEVERMIND AJSKASKA

[hushed steeple]

Pfft

[rose gorge]

huh

[hushed steeple]

Oh right

[queen locust]

me neither-

[rose gorge]

who is Elder-

[queen locust]

also is Utah a living hell

[hushed steeple]

Eden

Idk

[rose gorge]

Ive been to Utah

[hushed steeple]

Who is Elder lmao-

Misspell be like

[rose gorge]

it’s very desert-y and there’s lots of rocks

we were camping

[hushed steeple]

The other day I meant to type "yeah" but instead it autocorrected to "Utah" and chat was talking about the elders so then I just-

Lol

[rose gorge]

the sand

[hushed steeple]

So anyway

Apparently valley elders were excited the whole time we were there

Exited

HhHhH

Oh thank God you edited that, you scared me

Lmao

[rose gorge]

the valley elder cutscene, except the second you arrive they immediately leave

[queen locust]

The Valley Elders are like puppies who found a new toy after several millenia

[hushed steeple]

Lol

[rose gorge]

skid: h-
valley elders: 🚶‍♂️

[hushed steeple]

Skid: ho-
Valley twins: 🕺

Me when i saw the valley elders for the first time: oh hell na-

[rose gorge]

the first time I saw them I thought they were soldiers

[hushed steeple]

Lol

[rose gorge]

and their bats were swords

[hushed steeple]

They look like Olympic athletes to me

[rose gorge]

and they were showing W A R to me or something

[hushed steeple]

I was like: oh god not two

[plucky ruin]

I was nOt expecting all that

[hushed steeple]

CHEESE GRATER

[rose gorge]

NOOO CHEESE GRATER

[queen locust]

i hate that I get why Eden is the cheese grater

[hushed steeple]

Gw could be PTSD and vault could be cPTSD imo

[queen locust]

but then again we have like- cheese here that's named Eden-

[plucky ruin]

I hate ur pfp those things were so evil @hushed steeple

[hushed steeple]

Jzgidggd

[queen locust]

FINALLY SOMEONE ELSE WHO UNDERSTANDS

[hushed steeple]

Did u just insult his babies

[plucky ruin]

a few times they just came up behind me and I'd see those eyes fill up my whole screen

[hushed steeple]

Your babies are going to grill you dude

[queen locust]

your babies have prevented me from completing the cursed Trials until the end of season

[pseudo heart]

Oof

[hushed steeple]

I dont have babies, i have children

[pseudo heart]

It isn't that bad yall

[hushed steeple]

Their*

I'm sorry

[plucky ruin]

yeah the eyes are cool

but I still hate those worms

[hushed steeple]

They look like water ripples

It's ok

[pseudo heart]

It's actually way easier than hIISSS air

[hushed steeple]

Excuse me

Air is so much easier

[queen locust]

okay before we evolve into either #general-sky-discussion or #sky-memes

[rose gorge]

yeah back to

uhh

[queen locust]

tis time for lore-

[pseudo heart]

Air is just.. pain

Aight

[hushed steeple]

So music

[plucky ruin]

I spent prob 25 mins in the trial of fire because those

[hushed steeple]

Pehhhh

Music

[rose gorge]

what do you think happens when an elder gets hit by a krill

[hushed steeple]

SO MUSIC

[queen locust]

Depends on which Elder it hits-

[pseudo heart]

Yes

[plucky ruin]

why does the forest Elder seal glowy butterfly bois away

[hushed steeple]

The topiclessness is making me angy

[queen locust]

If its anyone chonky enough to tank the hit they'll probably live

[pseudo heart]

If it's the valley elders, they'll hit back

[rose gorge]

the power of CHOMNK

HOME RUN whacks krill into the stratosphere

[hushed steeple]

E

[queen locust]

if it's the Isle Elder specifically his Oldness will bonk them with the staff

[plucky ruin]

damn krill

[pseudo heart]

didn't your parents raise you better?!
Krill: whimpers

[hushed steeple]

Me when i enter prophecy: so what new oobs do we have today

[pseudo heart]

The asian in him

[rose gorge]

“I’m not mad, just disappointed”

[hushed steeple]

Lmao

[pseudo heart]

Legit

[hushed steeple]

1/^1+πi/=ÂÄÃÆÀÀAAäaæaāaAAAA

[rose gorge]

uhhh

[hushed steeple]

Y e s

[rose gorge]

polusky you good?

[queen locust]

Also quick question wdym by this-

[hushed steeple]

This is a mood

[queen locust]

She never really seals any butterflies away

[hushed steeple]

Yea

[queen locust]

Prairie Elder is the one handling the butterflies, if anything

[rose gorge]

is it about those butterflies trapped in the pots that you burn to free them?

[hushed steeple]

Ye

Those were shipments righ-

[pseudo heart]

How bold of yall to assume the krill would even THINK of hitting forest elder

[plucky ruin]

o I got them mixed up

[hushed steeple]

Lol

[plucky ruin]

brain small

I'm so tired too

[hushed steeple]

Teth will just wack the krills with her hammer

[pseudo heart]

Yas

[plucky ruin]

not a good combo

[pseudo heart]

Prairie Elder looks like such a dad tbh

[hushed steeple]

Y a w n

[queen locust]

They're sealed mostly as shipments to bring to Forest

[plucky ruin]

ooo

[queen locust]

Probably to juice them of their light

[hushed steeple]

Prairie elder looks like Patrick from SpongeBob to me for some reason

[plucky ruin]

that makes sense

[hushed steeple]

Y a w n

[plucky ruin]

[rose gorge]

n

[pseudo heart]

..????

[rose gorge]

no

[hushed steeple]

E

[rose gorge]

please no

[hushed steeple]

What's wrong

[queen locust]

anyway-

[hushed steeple]

Music?

[rose gorge]

music good

[pseudo heart]

Music amazing

[hushed steeple]

I don't get the dramatic reactions from that

All i said was e

It's just SpongeBob lol

[rose gorge]

im always dramatic, 100% of the time

[hushed steeple]

Its just e lol

@hushed steeple not you

[pseudo heart]

I refuse to imagime that

[hushed steeple]

E

[rose gorge]

but it just made me imagine

[pseudo heart]

Lmao now that u mention that...

[rose gorge]

you enter the prairie elder cutscene....
and the elder turns around, and it’s PATRICK

[hushed steeple]

Lmao

Yes that's hilarious

Imagine editing that

[pseudo heart]

I've never actually played any trial with music on...

[hushed steeple]

Me too

I don't remember trial music

Tbh i would edit patrick into ayin's cutscene

[rose gorge]

[pseudo heart]

Sound sucks the hell outta my battery

[hushed steeple]

Lmao

Hmm

Any topics-?

Prairie looks like Patrick from s pingebom

[pseudo heart]

Prophecy students

[hushed steeple]

S pingebom

Jvsdbkkhd

[rose gorge]

s pingebom

[hushed steeple]

Diamonds.

[queen locust]

Dark stone or smthn of the sort

Maybe whatever the Light Miner was mining

[hushed steeple]

In the shape of a diamond

How can dark plants = dark stones

[queen locust]

Bricky had a convo with one of the devs about this once

About how darkness is used throughout the realms

[hushed steeple]

I see

E

E

[rose gorge]

E

[hushed steeple]

E indeed

Eindeed

So anyway

Eden elder must have been feeling pretty uh- idk-

Just-

[rose gorge]

cheese

[hushed steeple]

Krill rawr

Probably feeling like

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

I feel like lore channel is descending to losing topic ideas

[rose gorge]

Perhaps

[pseudo heart]

Oh wait for Season of Dreams

[hushed steeple]

"Hey how are u feeling today?"
Eden elder: "AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA"

[pseudo heart]

We'll be up and running again

[hushed steeple]

Mood. I am Eden elder.

Oof

[rose gorge]

kinassigned eden elder

[hushed steeple]

What

Then who should be vault elder.

Me

I'll be Eden and Lamed

And eden elder?

Yes

Well-

Both are relatable

Pspspsspspspspp

[rose gorge]

back to my conspiracy theory that the king is actually just all the elders standing on each other shoulders with the prince on top in a trench coat

[hushed steeple]

Pfft

Honestly,

Honestly,

I can imagine that-

[hushed steeple]

W h a t-?

Because chonk

I forgot what I was gonna say

Imagine Teth just. There-

[rose gorge]

uhh

because why not

[hushed steeple]

Anyway, who will be Tsadi then.

Teth would be like "I don't wanna participate"

And just stand there next to the supposed king

[rose gorge]

can i be the diamond lamed holds in the cutscene because i wanna be held by lamed

[hushed steeple]

Sure

[rose gorge]

vault

[hushed steeple]

Vault ekde

Elder

Vault elder

Ekde

[rose gorge]

I love the Ekdes

[hushed steeple]

So do i

Eldes

The ekdes are noice

[queen locust]

i was trying to find the darkstone quote but jesus I found a lot of arguments just scrolling back

[hushed steeple]

I'm so good at spelling I just can't type

I like the ekdes

[hushed steeple]

That sounds terrifying

[queen locust]

not really it was just exhausting

intellectually-

[hushed steeple]

Ekdes will help

[rose gorge]

the ekdes are very mysterious and cool

[hushed steeple]

For me it's terrifying cuz I easily get angy so I'd explode if an argument happened isgkxgxihxh

Lol

[rose gorge]

arguments make me anxious

[hushed steeple]

They make me so mad

Then I lose myself :))))

During arguments, id rather not stay-

I need to practice on how to exit the internet when angy

Just- nope-

[queen locust]

Come now Polusky you wouldn't want the other person in the argument to come out thinking they're the better person right-

[hushed steeple]

Angy tho

[queen locust]

Intimidate them with your cool

[hushed steeple]

Oh if they expressed they thought that

Oh man...

I would just. Nope.

I hate having angy management issues

We really should think of a topic

[rose gorge]

we’re trying

[pseudo heart]

Prophecy students—

[hushed steeple]

I can't thonk

[queen locust]

-are not the same spirits we see throughout the game

[hushed steeple]

Yes

[queen locust]

which is an unfortunate but technically sound fact

[hushed steeple]

Nyoom

[pseudo heart]

Mood

[hushed steeple]

Thoom

[queen locust]

Oh right- I was waiting to bring this up but

[hushed steeple]

Omg a potential topic

[queen locust]

When you're flying in Sanctuary, do you sometimes hear a door close somewhere

[hushed steeple]

Okay that's scary

[queen locust]

In the clouds specifically- by the entrance

[pseudo heart]

??

[hushed steeple]

Why am I scared now

[rose gorge]

n no??

[queen locust]

I want to think it's a bug but it happens every time I take that route

[hushed steeple]

I noticed that if I fly into the clouds to much, there's a hit kinda sound that makes my character fly away from a potential boundary

[queen locust]

Oh it's not a 'ding' sound though

It's the kind of wall slam sound

[hushed steeple]

I'm not talking about the ding sound

I'm talking about a wall slam sound too lol

[pseudo heart]

Lmao I play sky on mute but I'll keep my ears alert when I go to sanc hh

[pseudo heart]

Mind sharing ur route?

[queen locust]

yeye that sound- it might just be a bug of some kind but it's been BUGGING me

[hushed steeple]

Why does a door closing sound in sanctuary make me so anxious what the heck

[pseudo heart]

Lmao same

[hushed steeple]

Like I genuinely feel anxious haaihabjakabaskhskh

[pseudo heart]

Maybe sanctuary islands wasn't the "escape" its description was saying

[hushed steeple]

Door.

[pseudo heart]

Sound.

[hushed steeple]

Door sound.

It actually scares me ngl

[queen locust]

Random door sound effect in Sanctuary clouds

[hushed steeple]

It sounds ghostly

Are we sure it's like a door closing tho

[queen locust]

okay maybe not a door- but it sounds more like the sound that he Forest bridges make

It's definitely a stony kind of sound

[hushed steeple]

I know of the sound you mean I think

[queen locust]

try fwwwwwooosshhhh with a blak blak

blckalck bclack

[hushed steeple]

It's like my sky kid hits into something without the ding sound and I was always like "what the heck"

[hushed steeple]

This is hilarious idk why

[pseudo heart]

Like stone scraping against another stone??

[hushed steeple]

No

Just

[queen locust]

trust me it sounds nothing like a windwall and it's decidedly a solid sounding sound

[hushed steeple]

B O N K

[pseudo heart]

No no,, I meant the sound viridi was trynna describe

Lmao plot twist, it was sanctuary islands that was the hallucination

[queen locust]

yeye gimme a sec

[pseudo heart]

The ancestors was so desperate to the point that they made a space where they can "escape"

[hushed steeple]

Imma go do the quests first cya

[pseudo heart]

The slowly crumbling world of sky

But in reality, the space that was Sanctuaries Islands was actually just a space that makes you hallucinate that you're in a summery island

[hushed steeple]

Sanctuary was supposed to intentionally represent a get away and vacation, right? There was never really any lore for the season

[pseudo heart]

Lmao no no,, this is not a theory

But like.. an AU

[hushed steeple]

Oh ok

[pseudo heart]

Since no ones talkin bout anYTHIN

[queen locust]

I agree- and Prairie Elder's poem makes me think this is the case-

why can't I spell Prairie right wh

Fields of harvest, prairies of joy.
Farmer and fauna as one.
The Elder protects the creatures of light,
For darkened days to come.
Fly up, fly away,
For the Children of Light in need.
We shall recall our days of wonder,
And feel its air once more.
-Prairie Elder Poem

[hushed steeple]

Makes me feel like skids were brought to the world to revive light

Maybe to revive Eden

[queen locust]

heck my device doesn't want to cooperate- Imma put a pin on that

anyway

Sometimes the Winged Lights are called stars too- but if we're going to be bringing those home it's a bit of a roundabout process

You put like 63 of them in bodies and when you die they ascend with you

But what happens to the other 70-something stars

oh also this quote

<<The constellations in the intro are composed of the spirits/ancestors NOT winged light. Winged light=/=stars
“You’ll find imprints of the Children of Light” -talking about winged light (note: later in the same context the say Child of Light singular)>>

[pale geyser]

is there a possibility that the devs are just trolling everyone about the winged lights? Like, are they imprints of children of light, or an individual?

[pseudo heart]

Unlikely..?

[pale geyser]

idk

[queen locust]

<<“You’ll find imprints of the Children of Light” -talking about winged light (note: later in the same context the say Child of Light singular)>>
-Traveler's Guide

I'm leaning towards that trolling thing

https://youtu.be/f0XBmzddf40
Traveler’s Guide
-from here apparently-

[hushed steeple]

Hi- im back from quests

[spring finch]

where's the doc that says that eden is named "original sin" in japanese ? please link me to it i feel like i made it up lkjdfdfkjdfskj

[queen locust]

It might be in the pins somewhere?

[spring finch]

found it !!!!!!!!

[pale geyser]

that has a bunch of connotations ngl

[spring finch]

honestly i would've been much more terrified of eden if the name translated like that over to english

like damn original sin?? what happened here lmaooo

[queen locust]

several things presumably-

[hushed steeple]

Yea-

I mean- just look at eden-

[pale geyser]

mess

[queen locust]

Several things which are all subject to several interpretations so it's weird trying to put together any one specific sin

[hushed steeple]

I wont forget: AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[queen locust]

oh wait I should add that to the Elders=Seven Deadly Sins thing

[hushed steeple]

God, that reminds me of when we trie-

Yea

[spring finch]

several interpretations is what makes fun tho dkjfkdfg

[hushed steeple]

That-

[queen locust]

it helps that Eden is Pride right off the gate

[hushed steeple]

Lol

[pale geyser]

can someone explain symbiote theory to me btw

[spring finch]

wait thats so interesting that you say that, "pride right off the gate"

[pale geyser]

i looked through the pins and didn't really find anything

[queen locust]

They're in the Theory Vault- the Symbiote theory I mean

I suggest DM-ing Pyre for further explanation though but the gist of it was that every creature was neutral- just that they are named light and dark creatures based on the particles they emit

For example a light creature would emit spark and the dark creatures would emit dust

[pale geyser]

so then what does that have to do with symbiosis?

[queen locust]

oh I mostly just say it's Pride because it's the Original Sin- and the mural for Eden suggests a kind of similar situation

yeah wait a sec Imma take a look at the theory again

[spring finch]

i feel like just had a realization and i dont know what to do with myself lololo

[queen locust]

oh okay- so apparently in Symbiote theory Symbiote refers to the light creatures- rather than being light creatures they're referred to as neutral creatures compatible with either normal sparks or stasis sparks

The dark creatures on the other hand are akin to parasites that feed on the light to survive- dust-compatible neutral creatures

[pale geyser]

ahaaaa

[queen locust]

if I'm uh- if I'm understanding that right at least

[pale geyser]

ok ok, so it should be called parasite theory lol

[hushed steeple]

E

But symbiosis-

[queen locust]

The sparks and the dust are the key players in that theory kind of

idk Pyre can probably explain the symbiosis part better

[hushed steeple]

E

[pale geyser]

i'll ask him when i get the chance

[queen locust]

I had to look up the meaning of symbiote again I haven't heard that term since 5th grade

[hushed steeple]

Oop

Basically-

[pale geyser]

pretty sure they use it a lot in Venom

[queen locust]

And it refers to an organism living in harmony with another organism to both of their advantages

[hushed steeple]

Yea-

[queen locust]

A parasite is the antithesis of this

[pale geyser]

yea

[hushed steeple]

I havent used it in a long time but i still remember a bit about symbiosis-

Just a bit-

[queen locust]

OH wait- maybe when Pyre used the word symbiote and parasite- it's in reference to the creatures' relationship to the sky kids

[hushed steeple]

Maybe

[queen locust]

A skid's relationship to a light creature is symbiosis- kind of-

We mostly use the light creatures to our advantage-

[hushed steeple]

My brain apparently always hurts so myself cant process things as quick as usual. So forgive me if i look like an idiot

[queen locust]

The relationship between a skid and a dark creature is... not quite parasitic but since it assumes the dark creature feeds on light it's probably that

nah that's okay Ani-

[pale geyser]

kinda like a moth and anyone who isn't a moth lol

[hushed steeple]

Imma let my eyes take a break-

[hushed steeple]

Lol

[queen locust]

yeah do that-

eyes are nice and they work hard-

[hushed steeple]

My brain works harder-

[queen locust]

Your brain is a hard worker- it wants you to be proud of it-

[hushed steeple]

My brain is a brain.

[queen locust]

and I watch Cells at Work

[hushed steeple]

Im more proud of my 100+ candles than my academic achievements- not even joking-

I just-

Candles yknow

[queen locust]

Oh uh- quick question-

[hushed steeple]

Mhm?

[queen locust]

Since we've connected the Elders to the Seven Deadly Sins I kind of wonder if we can manage to link them to the Seven Heavenly Virtues

[hushed steeple]

My b r a i n.

HHHHhHHHhHHhhhhHH

[queen locust]

ye I can't really think of another topic sorry-

[hushed steeple]

M a y b e

We'll t r y

[queen locust]

LUST=CHASTITY* GLUTTONY=TEMPERANCE* GREED=CHARITY* SLOTH=DILIGENCE* WRATH=PATIENCE* ENVY=KINDNESS* PRIDE=HUMILITY
Here are the sins with their corresponding virtues for easy reference

[livid valley]

Epik

[hushed steeple]

M y B r a i n

[livid valley]

KRILLED=DEATH

Cough

[hushed steeple]

Pfft

[queen locust]

the thing that makes me iffy about the virtues is that they don't really solve the sin that their Elders should be correlated with

[hushed steeple]

HhhHhHHhHHhH

AaAAaAaaaAaAAHHHHHHHHHHHhhhHHhhHhHHH

Im gonna d i e-

[spring finch]

i don't think it was the elders sinning but rather the king. i think it would make sense if it was the king instead

[queen locust]

Like I don't know- how exactly the Twins being chaste would help them with their hedonistic lifestyle

[spring finch]

the king isnt around to be saved anymore right?

[queen locust]

Uh- Ani you can lie down if you like- you don't have to force yourself to think

[hushed steeple]

I cant lie down cos im outside-

[queen locust]

Oh yeah- but we believe that the Elders might have been related to some sin

[spring finch]

where can i read about that :0c

[queen locust]

About the sins, I made a doc for it if you like

[spring finch]

pleaseee :3 🤲

[queen locust]

https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/14finxz-dPcA6hD1PIVJErukxSqSGIjY98bnwSuTfYxs/edit

[hushed steeple]

If i were at home, id already be lying down

[queen locust]

This combines much of the stuff we discussed yesterday

or the other day

idk I lost track of time

[hushed steeple]

But the thing is, when i stand back up. My head hurts like hell and my eyesight just blurs out into white for like 10 seconds.

[spring finch]

noooo

you should sleep

also thank you for the google doc!!!

[hushed steeple]

I think i need water.

Although im not thirsty-

Ok im never thirsty

[queen locust]

what if I pulled up the buggy Sanc mural- I take shots every time that comes up-

water shots-

[hushed steeple]

E

I just ignore the sanc bug mural now-

Lmao shots-

[queen locust]

wise choice-

[hushed steeple]

When i sleep and wake up, my head hurts even more-

Ok i think i srsly need water

But then im not thirsty.

[livid valley]

This hurts my head

[hushed steeple]

Everything hurts my head-

Anyone have a topic-?

No?

Oh.

:'(

I have one! How about the golden wasteland?

What about golden wasteland?

Like which part-

[rose gorge]

e v e r y t h i n g

[hushed steeple]

exactly

What everything-

[rancid yarrow]

this is the lore chat right? where can I see concept krill?? general chat was talking ab it and now im curious

[hushed steeple]

Oh

Im not too sure

I think it should be in pins but

Idk

[bitter shale]

this place

lookin kinda weird

[rancid yarrow]

ah well I dont have the time to check rn, I have an exam in a few.. ill come back when im done

[vast latch]

The one on the top

[hushed steeple]

Those look huggable

[vast latch]

A part of it looks like the whale/tuna king

[hushed steeple]

Like. U could sink into them. Like big dogs

[bitter shale]

concept art krill is long dementor

[hushed steeple]

The last one looks so neat ong

pattable...

[pseudo heart]

If you wanna see a bunch of Sky concepts, https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1 is a whole heaven

[queen locust]

long dementor oml

[pseudo heart]

The way we could've had way more problems other than krills

Who knows maybe we'll see some of em in future seasons lmao

[pale geyser]

what was dark stone's function?

[hushed steeple]

I have a theory about that if you'd like to hear it!

[pale geyser]

ofc!

[pseudo heart]

The original power diamond iirc

[hushed steeple]

This is gonna be a long one, so get yo snacks and get your drinks!!

Okay so, this is also going to go into wasteland territory, as i like connecting stories a lot, and i assume eden and wasteland are connected on a base level

[bitter shale]

[hushed steeple]

In the world of sky, a lot of magic is seen used - mainly meditation, and crafting with light - as we see the forest elder craft one of the small power diamonds in a cutscene. I assume this light crafting is a power reserved for the elders only.

Hi im back from my what seems like endless walk. Hows it going

Im still walking but-

[pale geyser]

there is thory being told. shh

[hushed steeple]

I dont think i would know tha-

I'm assuming this custom was getting lost to time, and the elders started dying one by one. So, in a desperate attempt, the remaining elders - the vault, forest, and wasteland elders, i assume - had started to get a plan together to teach their fellow ancestors/spirits. Though, this wasn't the only issue.

the other, arguably bigger issue?
The light in their world has started to run out.

So, they attempted to find a way to multiply or duplicate the light left in the world - turning to the then, still living eden elder.

So, they all formed a plan together - they would conduct an experiment to duplicate the sun.

And so, from the back then blossoming golden wasteland, which was deeper inside the valley of triumph, i assume - they had started to build a massive testing facility.

This was a large one, as a big amount of power had to be used - it reached from the middle of wasteland, to above vault (i assume the vault of knowledge is underground to keep it safe), to the very castle of the eden elder.

Preparations looked good - everything was looking up. Though, the light was starting to fade only quicker and quicker - and so, when the day came, they finally pulled the lever to activate the machine they'd designed - inside it, the big eden rock (?) We know today.

So, there was a big celebration hosted, where everyone who wished to could witness the event.

And so, at the final hour - the king pulled the lever.

But, something went wrong.

the power overload was large - but the experiment was successful.

In fact, so successful, that when the king held the sun in his arms it melted him, already showing that this wasn't good.

The sun, after melting together with the king, blew up, causing a tear between realms - which is when the dark dragons started to fly in. Distraught, they started causing chaos trying to return to their home, while the spirits and elders tried to escape.

some survived, some did not.

Eden was created because of the massive power overload - it's what used to be the glorious kings' castle. Wasteland was the most advanced part of valley - the only part of it left is the vault.

Once the elders were saved, they sealed eden behind the massive door. What they didn't know however, was that there was someone - or something - that wanted to go home.
A lone sky child - without its wings.
The elders agreed to craft them a cape made of the little light they had left - allowing it to fly once again. And so it ventured to eden, becoming the first statue there.

They never reached orbit.

[wild ridge]

Oh

Ok

[hushed steeple]

Instead, they're stuck somewhere between eden and orbit - but they have no hopes of ever reaching it. Instead they're stuck on that empty plain before orbit.
What I'm saying is that they're the sky child we see in the cutscene!

[pale geyser]

is this all pure speculations or have you noticed something that points to this?

[hushed steeple]

I have about the melting sun part doing the last cutscene before eden. Give me a second!

Here! We see eden, with the massive gem on top, and the elder holding the what i assume is the duplicated sun - their face distorted in horror.

[pale geyser]

looks like they're about to eat it

[hushed steeple]

Lmao

kind of yeah haha

Yea

Also, i think I'd have an idea on why the winged light icons look as they do.

[queen locust]

Quick question, why do you believe that the Elders died one by one, and why is it that those specific Elders are the ones that are left?

[hushed steeple]

the star in the middle stands for the fallen king, and the rest of orbit lost to the experiment - the two wings representing the ones lost by the skychildren, that had to be replaced by the capes we know today.

[queen locust]

In canon, the Elders are not dead at all- they're merely in a place beyond space and time, limbo if you will

[hushed steeple]

As i said, the vault elder is in charge of keeping, well, the vault. I think there'd be some immortality spell there. For the forest elder, i believe the forest would also be a place that would keep elders alive for longer. The eden elder i assume is also immortal, due to being the first elder in existence, I'm guessing. I never really thought about it too much.

About the limbo part, i wasn't aware this was a thing!

It could be very much possible that the sun "banished" them to the limbo to never let them be greedy again - or when they tried to go with the sky child, they could be stuck in the same realm.

[pale geyser]

so is the sun megan?

[queen locust]

imma take a short break and eat first brb-

i'll think a little more about stuff to ask-

[hushed steeple]

Okay!

[hushed steeple]

Idk what you mean, but i assume the sun in orbit was an eldritch abomination, and sentient. I assume everything in the sky children's realm was a peaceful cycle - and in essence, a part of that still exists, because they're always reborn

But what about megan

I genuienly don't understand what you mean, I'm sorry ;-;

[pale geyser]

megabird

[hushed steeple]

Still don't - who's Megan ????

The megabird

[vast latch]

The deity in Sky

[hushed steeple]

Her

I STILL HATE HOW HARD IT WAS TO GET A SHOT OF MEGAN

[vast latch]

I'm gonna assume you don't know about Megabird/Megan yet

[pale geyser]

its a personification of the light pretty much

[hushed steeple]

I don't, I've never noticed her :O

Theres megan up there

Theres a plan to kidnap her, wanna join

[vast latch]

Megabird is a deity. She(?) appears in the end credits and office's lake

[hushed steeple]

I would assume they could be a guardian of orbit that keeps it stable along with the old kid's power. Maybe they're the one who created sky children?

Yep

[vast latch]

Oh

[hushed steeple]

Thats what we speculate

Except the guardian part

[vast latch]

Zero, did you read the lore moff, canon things and theory vault doc yet?

[hushed steeple]

Lol

[pale geyser]

can u link them btw

[hushed steeple]

It would make sense for skykids to worship them, i think. But i don't think that they're just a deity - maybe they were created because of the massive explosion? I'm not too sure.

Also no, i haven't - i just joined the server about half an hour ago.

Someone made a theory that megan is an alien

Oh

[pale geyser]

seems kinda obvious imo lol

[hushed steeple]

Get the links-

[pale geyser]

yeyeye

[vast latch]

Canon lore:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE
Theories:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24

[hushed steeple]

Gotcha !! Tysm

[vast latch]

Wait!

[hushed steeple]

Not done yet

I'll read them when I'm done with schoolwork, I've been procrastinating all day, haha

[vast latch]

Lore moff - new version
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true

[hushed steeple]

Theres more

Ye

[vast latch]

I'll put it in a single message wait

[hushed steeple]

Oh buddy boy I'm excited to read that !!

[vast latch]

Lore moff - new version
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
Canon lore:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE
Theories:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24

There we go

[hushed steeple]

Got it tysm!

[vast latch]

Have fun reading

[bitter shale]

@hushed steeple your theory remind me of this blue eden

[hushed steeple]

I like blue eden-

[hushed steeple]

Looks noice

[bitter shale]

indeed

[hushed steeple]

But i still like the red

[vast latch]

It looks less scary so I think that's why they changed it to red

[hushed steeple]

Consider: purple eden

[bitter shale]

maybe its to signifying the danger of eden

[hushed steeple]

It looks really tech-like when its blue

[bitter shale]

red : danger

[vast latch]

Mhm

[bitter shale]

notice the elders nad those spirits getting blasted away

[vast latch]

Yellow is light and blue is absence of light

[pale geyser]

but the skid in the pic is fine

[bitter shale]

because

they just arrived

[vast latch]

This photo of vault vault is meme worthy

[hushed steeple]

me omw to heaven

[bitter shale]

dont mind vault elder assert their dominance

[hushed steeple]

I should make a meme of that

PSHEKAGSJDH

ascension.jpg

[pale geyser]

me when i put discord on light mode

[rose gorge]

HAHEJDH

[vast latch]

She's doing the WRYYYYYYY

[hushed steeple]

I saved it

Ill make a meme

[bitter shale]

also heaven does exist in eden

[hushed steeple]

Ik

[rose gorge]

me n the boys ascending

[hushed steeple]

When i first saw heaven in eden

[hushed steeple]

I went like

So eden really is paradise?

[bitter shale]

always has been

[pale geyser]

always has been

[hushed steeple]

Lmao

[vast latch]

Used to be

[bitter shale]

got me thinking

if eden sky is actually blue...

clear blue sky

without any clouds

imagine how clear the night sky would be

[vast latch]

Imagine how many stars we could see

[hushed steeple]

E

I imagine eden was called eden before the great experiment, since now it's the eye of eden - implying it's an awful spot in a paradise.

Chonk

[vast latch]

He confused

Lamed's reaching out to Tsadi

And the twins (?)

I can't see teth anywhere

[hushed steeple]

Neither can i

[hushed steeple]

Teth is like: i still dont want to be in the pic

9 people?

[queen locust]

THERE- MY QUESTION

wait no what are we talking about

Blue Eden

[hushed steeple]

Lol

[vast latch]

Blue Eden and the disappearance of Teth in the pics

[queen locust]

So Zero was a moff- shoot- I missed out on the welcome-

[pale geyser]

that was why megan wasn't in their theory

[hushed steeple]

their*

I don't use he/him pronouns

[queen locust]

OH HEYA I THOUGHT OF A QUESTION-

ALSO WELCOME TO LORE CHAT

[vast latch]

Welcome to the sky discord

[queen locust]

the big brain juicer family welcomes you-

[vast latch]

We all share a single braincell

[hushed steeple]

JSGDJ THANK YOU

[vast latch]

Also nice Zhongli pfp

[hushed steeple]

what is it that u wish to know from the elevated one

[hushed steeple]

Thank you !! I love him v much haha

[queen locust]

Why is it that you thought that the light was disappearing from the lands?

[hushed steeple]

I imagine that the day/night cycle exists but it's so slow that night has never fallen before - if it did, it had been before the spirits existed.

[pale geyser]

but why?

[queen locust]

What could have led you to that conclusion though?

[hushed steeple]

simple logic - the sun doesn't move at all from what we see in game. If it does, it's only very miniscule.

[queen locust]

It could have been that it wasn't always like that

We do seem to be stuck in a loop of some kind- just us sky kids

[fast jasper]

bet megan went after everyone was dead “imma just stop time”

[hushed steeple]

Maybe - coming back to my eden theory, the day/night cycle could've reset because of it. And yes, sky kids very much are stuck in a time loop - due to the realms of sky being an error / fusion of two realms and timelines (the spirit realms and orbit)

[queen locust]

Then- the day/night cycle could have functioned just fine before those events happened

[hushed steeple]

Exactly. Due to the power overload, i wouldn't be surprised if it influenced the cycle of day and night, too.

[queen locust]

If we were stuck in a loop, the same might not be said for the Ancestors for when they were still alive

And I have my doubts about any sort of power overload having any bearing on that day/night cycle

[hushed steeple]

i see your point

I was talking more about the fusion of the two realms. I should've specified.

[fast jasper]

isnt the moon always a crescent but the only time we see it is gw and the office

[queen locust]

There's also Eden actually

[hushed steeple]

Hi-

[fast jasper]

wait nvm the moon is on pause too

[queen locust]

Eden is in the dead of the night- the camera pans up to a shot of the crescent when we die

[hushed steeple]

Homespace has time

hmm, well, it could be possible that the forced dragged the moon closer to the sun - so i could imagine the two being in the sky simultaneously.

[queen locust]

I dunno if we could consider Homespace as a legitimate realm

[hushed steeple]

I believe home space to be a simulation from the vault

O h

[queen locust]

now that's... a new one

[fast jasper]

i think the eden diamond was supposed to absorb the realms and do some crazy planet destruction thing but it cant be that far fetched

[hushed steeple]

The elders would've probably noticed that the sky children are always stuck in a cycle - it's safe to assume that they would feel like they deserve a resting spot - which is why they simulate home space for the sky children to rest.

[queen locust]

that wording makes me believe the diamond imploded on itself and became a black hole of some kind

I'm not entirely sure that Vault would have that kind of foresight but I'll admit it's an intriguing thought though

[fast jasper]

we can assume the world of sky is in a time loop since the acolyte state in eden falls every time we get to a point

[queen locust]

Due to the very nature of Homespace in context with the lore though I'm having doubts

[hushed steeple]

I assume that it has the capability to do so, as it can project the constellations - and the dark mantas? I believe those to be simulated as well. If we're following my theory, this realm and the spirits were an advanced civilization.

[fast jasper]

well homespace is a place between worlds and realms but not time

[queen locust]

If we're putting Homespace on the same level as Vault then we'd be seeing Homespace as nothing more than a hallucination

[proud fable]

Yes

[fast jasper]

time is existent in homespace but not the realms

[hushed steeple]

Hallucination? Could you elaborate, please?

[queen locust]

Vault as we see it is commonly believed to be a dream-like scenario

Notice how the space just extends after a certain floor

[fast jasper]

the higher you go the less tube-like is gets

[queen locust]

2nd to 3rd- and the floors start to become less tangible- as in, you just lose the walls entirely

When exiting the cutscene from Vault's summit, you are transported to another place

A ruined Vault

[pseudo heart]

O— now that you've mentioned homespace.. maybe not the same level as vault

[fast jasper]

then floor 5 you see space whale coming from the back

[hushed steeple]

hmm, i still believe vault to be a legitimate building. I think those walls being gone is simply because of the barrier between the limbo and the vault is very much.. slim

[queen locust]

With the gate to Eden just ahead- and when you enter Eden, you can see that Vault is not as high as what we just went through might suggest

[fast jasper]

the vault isn’t the summit of eden but is just a little off centre

[hushed steeple]

as i said, i believe vault to be under the ground simply to protect it. I think that instead of going up, the elevator (?) / Levels aren't in a straight line but slowly, slowly going up - and the entrance to eden is at the very top, but it's not at the surface yet, which is why it's still carved in stone.

Also, it could be possible that eden ate away at the wall.

[fast jasper]

but what was the elder door for at eden

[queen locust]

I don't doubt the security that might have gone into consideration when constructing Vault, but for the mountain to have contained such a large space is somewhat illogical to me

[hushed steeple]

Maybe it isn't as big as we imagine it to be - it would have been much smaller from the perspective of spirits, especially elders. But we as sky kids are tiny compared to them.

[queen locust]

We might be tiny but we're not that tiny compared to the Ancestors- we're like the hobbits to their human

[fast jasper]

actually eden is smaller than most realms from what i observed while using the eden shortcut

[queen locust]

Well it IS situated on top of a mountain-

Not much room to build around

[fast jasper]

i mean yeah

[hushed steeple]

Mhm

[modern karma]

I was actualy wondering if the whole thing is actually just eden itself as the ‘eden’ we normally talk about is actually just the ‘eye’ of eden?

this is so random I-

sorry if I dont make sense

[queen locust]

Nah don't worry you do- maybe there's more to Eden that we see of built around somewhere

We only ever enter it from one side of the mountain after all

[modern karma]

Tru

[hushed steeple]

OH, THATS SUCH A COOL IDEA

[fast jasper]

well then the other must have very tall jagged rocks or stronger wind?

[hushed steeple]

I'll have to remember that..

[pseudo heart]

Now.. The structure of Eden doesn't really make much sense to me, at least

[hushed steeple]

I just realised something when i was thinking of what Zero said about homespace just now-

Im sorry whats happening-?

[hushed steeple]

ani, what did you wanna say? I'm all ears !

[pseudo heart]

Like.. the actual entrance is from the Vault right?? Then you enter a corridor.. A whole open area, now the Eden is supposed to be a mountain right and a huge castle at that but you open the door after the social area then BOOM wind and rock area, what's that part supposed to be?

[fast jasper]

also i think eden is more of a plateau since they literally built a city on top

[pseudo heart]

I don't think it's a city

[fast jasper]

does look big enough tho

[hushed steeple]

Knowing that valley comes before and so does wasteland, i think it's safe to assume it was built on top of the mountain that valley was on. Valley and wasteland are/were the city, eden was the castle in the middle of it.

Homespace couldnt have been made by Lamed in order to create a space for us to rest from our travels unless Lamed had already known that we were going to eden and save everyone- and homspace isnt affected by the timeloops too so i think homespace is just for game mechanics

[queen locust]

I agree with it having been a city, Eden was meant to function as the capital of the Kingdom once

[pseudo heart]

This

[queen locust]

i had to read that twice and i see no trace of blown up castle on the mountains in Valley

[hushed steeple]

@hushed steeple

But, going from catsle builds from the middle-ish ages, it's very possible that it was built to be more defensive. Builds of that sort did have some very small cities inside that ran independently - so both theories are very much possible here!

[pseudo heart]

Okay so the homespace thing..

[hushed steeple]

It's a good idea !!

[fast jasper]

bet nobody from the ancestors time expected a bunch of light children coming to save them

[modern karma]

tbh I thought of the homespace as an island or sth from the sanctuary islands or sth, maybe there was an earthquake and they separated idk

[pseudo heart]

I don't think it's the same level as vault, but rather the same level as wherever the hecc the elders are

[hushed steeple]

But why would it be in the water, then? The rest of them are all in the air apart from two or three i think.

[bitter shale]

If eden only have an eye

Does that mean there is the second eye somewhere?

[queen locust]

The Elders might have had some form of premonition but I don't know how likely it is for the Poems to be taken as canon

[hushed steeple]

oooooh keep tapking

[queen locust]

and somehow I doubt it- wouldn't Eye of Eden be referring to 'Eye of the Storm'?

[modern karma]

tru...

[queen locust]

The 'time of day' associated with Eden is Storm

[bitter shale]

And those children are pyromaniacs who went wild when a cool pants arrived

[hushed steeple]

I know this is off topic but is it ok if I dm you? You seen really cool and I'd like to be friends if you're ok with that!

[fast jasper]

yes

crazy pyromaniac children

[queen locust]

Heck man I'm down for that- here's to the start of a probably beautiful friendship lmao

[hushed steeple]

Heck yh!!! Who knows, maybe we'll write a story abt sky kids together ahaha

[queen locust]

as someone who is constantly broke I can confirm that I will set the Kingdom on fire for wax just for pants

[hushed steeple]

Same lol

I still only have moth pants :+

:(*

[fast jasper]

oof

[pseudo heart]

Skids and elders are somehow related right?

[fast jasper]

sub species says i

[hushed steeple]

They're supposed to be a hybrid between wl and elders

[bitter shale]

I dont think they are related

Its already syated

[fast jasper]

wait lemme get the pic

[bitter shale]

Stated

[queen locust]

« The elders were elders from the beginning, and children of light will not grow up to be elders. Children of light are of new generation » -Launch Livestream

Here's your quote-

[fast jasper]

smack

[queen locust]

smacc

[bitter shale]

We are different from elders

[pseudo heart]

Ooooooh i see i see

Hold up thoughts are being thonk

[queen locust]

Take your time lmao

[rose gorge]

the most related they seem is that our color scheme when extinguished looks kinda like theirs

[bitter shale]

Okay who is the one who draw the king got tripped on a boulder and fell yesterday

[pseudo heart]

Me

[queen locust]

LMAO YE THAT WAS GLORIOUS

[hushed steeple]

Wait so the dark stones and sky kids are a bit more closely related to the spirits?

[pseudo heart]

It was 100% pure craccheadery

[bitter shale]

I wanna ask what did you use to draw that lmao

[fast jasper]

oop king be tripping?

[queen locust]

you- you are a god-

[queen locust]

smthn like that, according to some pieces of concept art

[hushed steeple]

OOOOOOO

[queen locust]

Though we don't really know how much of it carried over in the final product

[pseudo heart]

I used my phone, fingers, iBis Paint and uhm.. idk, whatever braincells I had left

[bitter shale]

Skids are hybrid of light and dark

[hushed steeple]

That is so funky

[pseudo heart]

I swear I'm an artist

[bitter shale]

You draw with fingers????? How it can be so neat aaaa-

[hushed steeple]

Maybe because some sky kids hoard winged light the corrupted stones are from their greed?

[hushed steeple]

A lot of people draw with fingers-

So If they're too powerful for too long, they end up having those dark stones grow inside them, because wl is a pure creation, in an (in this case) impure vessel

[queen locust]

That's one way to look at it- the other is that a skid is light within a hollow shell

[bitter shale]

Yeah but when i try it its so messy ;-;

[modern karma]

my fingers r shaky and my artistic sense tells me to give up on art

[pseudo heart]

Desperation

[hushed steeple]

Skids are nyoomers

[bitter shale]

This tbh

[fast jasper]

pretty sure skykids without the player side would be sorta clueless about greed

[hushed steeple]

Felt. My graphic tablet broke ;-;

[queen locust]

Hollow shell being made from dark material of some kind, and it functions like a meat puppet

except we hope to god it ain't meat

[fast jasper]

arent humans just meat puppets then

[hushed steeple]

Maybe some wl, especially the ones in eden, get corrupted due to the overall vibe and with how many corruption rocks are in there?

[modern karma]

We have bones

[queen locust]

technically yes- we're just brains in a fleshy prison

[bitter shale]

We are meat puppet for our brain

[hushed steeple]

yeah

[fast jasper]

wait wait

[bitter shale]

They do vibing so hard they got corrupted-

[fast jasper]

we have a skeleton mech and flesh armour

[queen locust]

imagine vibing so hard you turn to the dark side

[pseudo heart]

I used to draw with fingers waaaay before I even got first graphic tablet (which was this year) but it and my laptop broke not too long ago for some reason.. now I'm just.. bacc to finger drawing...

Anyways

[hushed steeple]

I don't think it's in their control. They're impure because of the rocks. Call it something like a chemical reaction!

[bitter shale]

Hormones

[queen locust]

Corruption rarely is within anyone's control-

[pseudo heart]

H—

[bitter shale]

[queen locust]

wait oml no why hormones

[hushed steeple]

Rest in pieces. hope you get it fixed soon!

[fast jasper]

raging hormones

[bitter shale]

Hormones are chemical-

[hushed steeple]

HAHA DW

I'm silently glaring at the other stuff at my notepad.,.,.,anywaye

[queen locust]

I was gonna ask for a second if light has feelings and then I remembered that this is Sky

[hushed steeple]

everything has feelings

[queen locust]

and if light had an urge we have an insatiable urge indeed

an insatiable urge to commit a r s o n

[hushed steeple]

[fast jasper]

i gots another image about skykids and elders

[queen locust]

anyway keep loring ya'll Imma clean up a bit here-

[hushed steeple]

I love this emote so much

[queen locust]

brb-

[hushed steeple]

Kk,!

[modern karma]

I think its stating too obvious stuff but the darker the things the more UM ‘edges’ they have? Idk how to say it
And maybe this means like there is more dark than light in the world?

what am I thinking

[hushed steeple]

We are just pyromaniacs and nyoomers

[fast jasper]

nyoom

yes i guess

[hushed steeple]

"all i know is be quick and do arson." - sky kids

[fast jasper]

or maybe just the middle bit deciding to slide back and forth every now and then

[hushed steeple]

And play with krills

Speaking of krills, i think they originated from orbit.

[fast jasper]

but why would megan create something dark

[hushed steeple]

As i said, i believe orbit was its own realm where everything was a never-ending cycle of harmony and balance. You can't have light without dark, or dark without light. I believe the krill were made to maintain the balance between light and dark - call it the yang to the yin.

[fast jasper]

oo

[pseudo heart]

I'm bacc and okay so about the place where the elders are in the same level as homespace thing..

Because look, what do those things have in common? We meditate to reach them,, and as how each elder have their own area. I think homespace is the skychildren's own,,

[hushed steeple]

that's a very good idea, i like it!

[short owl]

Ok but weird thing
Homespace may have unusual time, but time actually flows there (unlike everywhere else)

Do we work on the edge of space and time, and our homespace is the only thing inside time? Or is it outside time which is why where in time it is changes?

[hushed steeple]

My b r a i n right now-

[frozen pivot]

Homespace could be outside the 4th wall, u never know 👀

[pseudo heart]

That's why I said it's kind of the same level as the area as where the elders are rn.. It's something that the Skychildren can access and is not in the same plane of existence as the world of Sky so it was unaffected by what ever the hecc happened there i.e, darkness, corruption, the explosion

Also why it retained its daylight cycle

[hushed steeple]

I just think its game mechanics and not lore related

[short owl]

But it's not unaffected. It has a storm state that it enters

It's in this storm state when we first awaken, and returns to this storm state once we pass pnr

[hushed steeple]

I still think its game mechanics-

[short owl]

so maybe when our connection to shiny boi is strongest?

I was also thinking about how bursty our energy was compared to light creatures and I think how energy is released falls into three categories:

• Burst - Light can be released in short bursts for quick movenent (us, crabs)
• Continuous flow - Energy is released continuously without interuption. This requires less energy per distance, but acceleration is significantly reduced (mantas, butterflies?,whales)
• Burstable - Like continuous flow, but the flow can be broken to allow for a single high energy action (Krill)

[hushed steeple]

its my first time reading through this channel, and the first thing I see is how energy in sky is distributed, this is some big brain stuff

[pseudo heart]

Oh we do go big brain mode from time to time

Now Q, have u seen the essential docs to read in this channel

[hushed steeple]

no?

[pseudo heart]

Lore Moff Doc (ESSENTIAL, credits to Bricky)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?usp=sharing
The Canon Lore Doc (can be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing
The Theory Vault (can also be found in pins)
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing
Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing
And make sure you check the pins, they are heaven to us theorists. :)

[hushed steeple]

Is it plausible that was my theory? Sorry for frying ur brain lols

there's an initiation for- WHAT

[pseudo heart]

Say no more

Nah, not an initiation

[hushed steeple]

I'M NOT READY FOR THIS

[pseudo heart]

More of a thing so that you'd get the gist of the channel

If the links overwhelm you,, for now you can just read the lore moff doc !!

Oh and welcome to the Lore Channel !!

Where we fry our brains and drain our brain juice on a daily basis

[hushed steeple]

i'll be back in 2 hours, with my brain fried and ready to inhale lore

or I'm never coming back

Don't forget ur big brain juice that's known as procrastination on schoolwork and 2838226282 liters of caffeine

[pseudo heart]

Except the caffeine part for me, the rest is mOOD™

[hushed steeple]

I HAVENT DONE ANYTHING FOR SCHOOL TODAY AKDGSKGWS

i'm procrastinating while reading this, I'm already becoming a lore kid

[pseudo heart]

I even completely forgot there's still school

My brain is on vacation mode already

[hushed steeple]

One more week....then I'm free

I love the emotes in this server they're so cute ajdgwkw

[pseudo heart]

Wait

Uhm

Lore..

Before any mod catches us hhhh

[hushed steeple]

do I need to read the huge message mirian sent

oh yh lmao

ummm

What could we talk abt lore-wise?

I need more theory material

in another server I'm in, the members were theorizing that the levels of vault after ground floor, and the 1st floor is a hallucination

hallucination or dream

ooh

As compelling as the ideas of a hallucination is, I'm not sure I believe it

[pseudo heart]

Same, I'm not with the hallucination theory

[hushed steeple]

It just feels so..incomplete

We have so much other material to support everything else is real, why should vault be an exception?

why is bricky king? never heard of them before

and uhh why is also king?

isnt it cannon that vault is a fever dream? or am i getting the docs mixed up

[pseudo heart]

Bricky is another user in this server hh @/a simple rock#8192 who's uhhh how do we call them

[hushed steeple]

it could be like this: a test given by the vault elder to make sure that you're ready for eden.

hmm, i don't see it as much of a test though. Only lighting some lamps to ascend? Doesn't feel right to me. I can see the trials being a test...maybe vault is where they originally were?

ooh that sounds interesting

It would explain why they're so empty. All the space was originally used for the trials.

And the elevator could've risen them to each trial

[lethal stump]

hello

[lethal stump]

vault was made to be dream like, but the exact term of « fever dream » is a theory iirc

[hushed steeple]

ah okay, thanks for informing me

[hushed steeple]

So what's the story behind the trials and "the Prophecy" anyway?

[lethal stump]

there isn’t a hard-and-set story, although we do know the murals show us the origin of the kingdom

[hushed steeple]

Well, I didn't get much out of it.

[hushed steeple]

I believe they were made after eden happened and the elders realised the sky kids had been starting to travel there - they wanted to pick out the bunch who were allowed to go there, from finding who could pass the trials and who couldn't.

[lethal stump]

it’s easier to understand if you have some pré-determined knowledge of lore

[hushed steeple]

I know much part of the lore 😅

[lethal stump]

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. :stickerHeart:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit

[hushed steeple]

I'm not new here, that's what I was saying, but thank you anyway

[lethal stump]

ah, i misread your comment

i just woke up

[hushed steeple]

So, I have some headcanons about SoP and the murals, but I'm curious what are you guys thinking about them too

[bitter shale]

my hc said thos emurals tell us how the kingdom came be

and who responsible for that

[lethal stump]

go ahead with your thoughts, chris

[bitter shale]

[hushed steeple]

Haha, it's ok.

[bitter shale]

yes

tell us

[hushed steeple]

Well, I think that the prince was originally involved with the elements. We can see him interacting with each one of them

In the final mural, we can see Eden and the prince

Just wondering what could it all mean, chronologically-wise

[lethal stump]

the way i interpret it, the prince completed the trials, received the elements, opened the rebirth beam, and then was crowned in orbit

as well as gave the elements to the prairie, forest, valley, and wasteland elders

[hushed steeple]

Do you think that the prince was the first one to complete all the trials?

[lethal stump]

yea, i think everyone else who tried ended up dying

[hushed steeple]

They're basically spirits, so there's not much trouble for them, unlike us. For example, they don't get 'dried out' if their flame touches water or darkness. I don't think that they have a flame at all

[lethal stump]

i don’t think they were always spirits, they were alive at some point

[hushed steeple]

So dying is not exactly what was happening in these trials. Besides, when we live the prophets' memories we see them teaching other spirits, the trials being like a practice room. I don't think the prophets were pushing their own students to certain death...

[lethal stump]

what do you think the limp bodies in the murals are then ?

[hushed steeple]

Hmm, that might be related to something else

[lethal stump]

what do you think it is ?

[short owl]

Maybe ancestors got lost in the trials cause they didn't have the ability to hear light calling

[hushed steeple]

Wait. There's a child of light at the end of every trial. How would that be useful for spirits?

[short owl]

There is a col there now

Maybe there wasn't then

[hushed steeple]

That's the only way out of the trials' realms back to the cave

[short owl]

How much scarier would earth have been if the wl wasn't at the end?

[lethal stump]

i think the WL is just a remnant of the COL who completed the trials (well, the way i see it anyways)

[short owl]

Like yes, WE knew the center is where we wanted to go, and yes WE suspected there was a solution since that WL was CLEARLY there so there has to be some way to get to it

But for an ancestor, it would just be the place literally falling apart

[lethal stump]

maybe rather than a wl there was an elemental light, like we see in the murals

[hushed steeple]

[lethal stump]

well, not those ones
different ones, imo

[hushed steeple]

and these two that exist for the sake of enchantment-

[hushed steeple]

Oh

That still doesn't make it clear on how are the trials and the murals are linked

[lethal stump]

i see the enchantment lights as mimickries of the elements

[short owl]

That... Could have implications. If the COL lost a piece of themselves for each light they aquired...

[hushed steeple]

It could be illusion and tech are not natural elements, or became strong enough to be elements after the rise of the kingdom

Also we know the victor was not a current day sky kid because when he first takes the elements to eden, we do not see a castle there.

[lethal stump]

yeah, it’s the origin of the kingdom

it couldn’t have been a modern skid

[hushed steeple]

Yes, but what do they say, historically speaking?

What is the stort told in those murals?

The idea that its a kingdom origin and not a prediction of sky kids winning the trials, the proof is just the lack of castle

[lethal stump]

the story in the murals is the origin of the kingdom, that’s the only thing we know, chris

[hushed steeple]

The typically thought idea is that it tells of the Prince, going to the trials, winning, gaining the elements, giving them to the elders, going to eden and then getting crowned King.

[hushed steeple]

Hmmm... so what is that story? 😅
I'm a little behind with the lore since the season started

[lethal stump]

what are you trying to ask, chris ? you’ve been asking the same kind of question over and over

[hushed steeple]

Viridi showed a really cool essay from someone I cant remember, theorizing that the victor, gave the elders the wrong elements (such as forest getting water to cause bad rain)

[nocturne zealot]

oh oh i have a theory about SoP

[hushed steeple]

That I have no idea what the mural say. Literally Not that whether it's a story from the past or future, but what do they actually say. Like what does every picture mean? (I have my rudimental theories, but I want to know what you guys think)

The new info from prophecyy would be that the victor (thought to be the Prince) had won the trials and givin the elements to the elders, and possibly have taken them to eden before getting crowned King.

Murals could mean anything tbh- murals are just really hard to decipher-

[lethal stump]

we don’t have concrete answers for you, chris
the point is that you make up answers for yourself
we’ve given our thoughts, but ultimately it’s up to you to interpret the text
the only thing i can say for sure is that it’s something that took place in the past, bc it’s the origin of the kingdom

[hushed steeple]

I don't like murals but I like murals

[hushed steeple]

That's what I was asking. Thank you!

First Mural: Prince leaves to go do trials.
Second Mural: Prince does trials and is the only survivor victor, he then acquired the elements.
Third Mural: Prince gives Forest water, Valley air, Prairie Earth, and Wasteland Fire, then goes to Eden with Vault.
Forth Mural: King, in the center of everything, gets crowned the King at the height of the kingdom.

[lethal stump]

maybe not the height

it’s still the origin story, after all

it’s only the beginning

[hushed steeple]

Wow! Thank you!

Now the question remains... what about Isle and Vault elders?

Granted, thats just one idea, in reality we know JACK NOTHING about anything

[lethal stump]

lore chat is like a high school english class minus the grades
why are the drapes blue

[hushed steeple]

Isle is on the boat as the others get the elements, and Vault is behind Prince at Eden. They seem to be exceptions due to their jobs.

[short owl]

Easy. Red team, blue team trope.

[hushed steeple]

Isle seems to just take care of Isle, maybe not needing an element, and I personally think Vault was the Kings advisor.

[lethal stump]

same, i also think vault vault was the leader before the king fell and was kinda salty after being replaced but that’s angst

[short owl]

It goes back to the beta. Question is - if Eden's destruction was orriginaally blue, but now dangerous darkstone is red, which side did the blue drapes indicate?

[lethal stump]

what blue drapes

[short owl]

You said the drapes were blue

[lethal stump]

nono that was a joke

i was making a joke about english classes over analyzing tiny details

[hushed steeple]

“You are turning into a big stormy diamond you are in no way capable of leading right now”

King: 😠

[lethal stump]

i wasnt referring to any actual drapes

[hushed steeple]

"What does it mean that the Storm is red?"

[short owl]

The temperature of Eden is controversial

[lethal stump]

it should be freezing but there’s no snow/ice, in fact there’s sand

[hushed steeple]

Well, Eden is defined by warm colors

Therefore, Eden gives the impression of warmth, at least that's what I observed

[short owl]

However it sucks away light, which fire (that provides warmth) does not do

Although... Maybe there was an illusion of warmth?