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Yeah
Also, once we fully “relive” a spirit (complete the constellation), they literally rip off the hair in their scalp and give it to us
Well, metaphorically
So taking into the account that multiplayer IS part of the lore, we’re basically the new generation and the spirits are the boomers
We fell from the sky
Indeed we did
We nyoomed
But there was a reason why we fell out of there
And that’s how babies are made in Sky
We're also made of clay/stone or whatever which resembles that we were created by something or someone
So we didn't fall from the sky with no reason
Also we can change our appearance at will
You can change your height by drinking drugs
DRINKING DRUGS SOHXXACOHSFOHOHFS
I mean we aren’t supposed to question anything
I don't think they're drugs
Plus like, we can buy things from a shop, but since the spirits are “dead”, can we not just nyoom out of there with free potions
I don't think they were made to be drugs
I mean
Because it doesn't sound right for actual children to be consuming drugs
I mean
They're potions
Potions are magical drinks that have magical affects on people. Drugs are not potions.
They're not medical ogadohdadohdadoh
Are some spirits really died because we can interact someone of them Mainly the season quest giver
Maybe medical potions in Sky could be recharging your cape energy
I don't see the reason behind seeing the potions as drugs
Okay stepping behind that conversation 😂😂
What
I didn't word that right whoops
r/ihadastroke
I mean, I see your point. Like, are they really dead? We can buy from them, they have shops, we can’t nyoom out of there with the potions for free
yeah lol
Of course they're dead. You relive their memories and you can see how some of them died.
It's called stealing from them-
Grave robbing basically
Is the crying miner not dead?
I mean, maybe they’re dead people with the ability to interact with the outside world at will
Like the quest giver for example
What if we take anoobis mask
And he bonks his drum
Nah they're spirits. In stories, humans could always interact with ghosts and spirits.
He bonks his drum and literally paints on the wall
Ghosts are basically in a separate dimension but you can still interact with them, at least in fiction
Maybe the prairie elder
He painted on the walls a long time ago before death
But how does it just appear like that permanently 🤔
It's magic leave him alone ugysVCOUSYCBP
It wasn’t there before so it couldn’t have been before he died
Can’t they just use their magic and bonk themselves alive 🤔
Irl, you can still go to caves back when earlier humans were writing on walls. Whether it's paint or carving they still exist, for an example. I don't see how it's different for Sky, especially since there's magic in Sky.
Most of the murals also light up too
I can
If I do it hard enough
I mean I guess you could say they were murals that were engraved before hand and we just couldn’t see them
Just a simple bonk
And nyoom
Yeah
Prairie elder makes butterflies out of fire
Brings up a jar and brings in the butterflies
The forest elder summon a hammer like thor
Valley does the Team Rocket motto and chucks our flame in the sky
Gufuzigsidgigdodgigd
didn't the wasteland elder just fight the air-
We put our flame in the wasteland spear tho
Mans really lost a fight to air-
Sailor moon transformation plays
Yass
No, there was a literal war going on in gw
Ik I'm just making fun lol
Oh ok
Golden wasteland is basically the earth in 2040
HA
Man, 2040 really degraded with technology
more like 2050
At this rate it’s gonna be 2030
the 2050's are not going to pretty years
This sounds terrifying since in 2050 I'll be 48/49 years old
Basically everyone tbh lol
My point
Going back to lore, what IS the Vault of Knowledge
A library
It’s hidden deep after golden wasteland kind of
And a Vault is usually protected
Compared to Wasteland, Vault is pristine
A library consisting of people's memories, those things we see stacked up on shelves.
People also theorize that when sky kids go to vault, they're actually dreaming.
I can see why such a place would be protected
Ooo
Knowledge is more important than many things in my opinion. Lots of knowledge should be hidden and obtained by only the right people.
If Wasteland was in a War Situation, what was the war for? Was it to protect something?
Maybe to protect vault?
Imagine trying to hide information so that it wont fall into the wrong hands
However, vault is seen up in orbit
Exactly what I was trying to think
Ikr
Oh yeah, right after vault is the door to Eden
Reminder that you can see vault collapse when flying up in orbit
But little did they know, they themselves were “the wrong hands”
SJSSJSJ
I feel like some were the wrong hands, some weren't
I feel like the Elder cutscene at the end of Vault was them giving you permission to go forward to Eden for earning their respect and helping them
You see all the elders with her in the cutscene
If the so called War was to protect the Vault of Knowledge (And maybe what Happened to Eden)
I think sky kids going to Eden was already planned before they meet Lamed
Elders perhaps preparing them for the journey and then the cutscene is like “you are finally ready?”
Yeah
side tracking here where did the diamonds go after being sent up
Hmm
where ever they go
The diamond Lamed through upward after showing it to the sky kid?
Maybe the forest one too
I barely remember lots of the cutscenes cuz I skip them
Maybe Forest sent the broken diamond to the vault and the vault threw it to Eden
Since the vault cutscene is happening at a vERY high point
Wow look at that, a mailing system
pffft
I heard that Teth and Lamed were related tho, like all the elders supposedly are, but Lamed and Teth are sisters ig
HDSHSKJ
Idk tho
Aren’t the elders genderless?
Yeah but you can call them whatever you want
wait what are all the elder fanon names
yeah
that makes the popular teth x lamed ship even worse
confirmed but the ceators
they can be related as lovers
Oh lord
thank u
Yeah people are weird
yall listen here relations can be romantic
deep breath
...the art kids have joined the chat
Sweet Home Alabama plays in the background
wdym butter
SKDBSKSHSK
I’m kidding
some people interpret them as lovers because they see the relation as romantic instead of familial and idk how to tell you that this time “relation” does not extend to sibling relationship alone so pls dont go around saying teth x lamed ships are werid because this word has broader meanings than you think
OH LORD
Are you saying people who are into art are people who ship the elders? Because I'm an art kid and I don't want to be bundled up with them
dont let me tap the sign again
okok forget i said that let's get back to lore
alright
the sign: the devs only say they are related and not in what way
I’m an art kid too, and I don’t like to be bundled up either. If it doesn’t relate to you, you don’t have to acknowledge it @hushed steeple
Or you could just not tell ppl to shut up lol deleting the message isn't doing anything
bruh
Wth happened
Nothing
Can we go back to lore theories please?
Indeed
It's not just me, it's more of maybe other ppl would take it the wrong way
What the heck are krills
@hushed steeple Im sorry then :(
You're okay
||and in eden||
what brought the krills to eden?
SPOILER THAT
Yeah so getting back to Vault being a dream of some sort, it’s like reliving memories. If the possible war was to protect knowledge and hypothetically the knowledge of Eden and memories from there-then is it a preparation to finally let someone relive the story?
SPLOIER
also the crabs and the dark plants
You don't have to spoiler in this channel
You don’t have to spoiler the word Eden
and gw
!spoilers
The community generally agrees that the following things are spoilers:
- Anything after the door to Eye of Eden (but not the word Eden)
- What the 8-player puzzle unlocks
- Anything in the secret level including what it is ||(office)||
- Beta content that is not live or not meant to be accessible (all beta content stays in the beta channels)
Also by the way this chat allows spoilers
Oh
Yeah
Sorry I was used to staying in help
lol that’s a mood
When I first got here I was told that I wasn’t allowed to say Eden unless it’s spoiler tagged so I made the same mistake of telling people to censor the word Eden in the chat lol
And sometimes I still do because habit
What is
Here as in the server or the channel
In the looking for group
Oh



Is there lore behind why general's timer is so high?
It's horrific up there
Even with slow mode it's really fast so yeah
i said so bc apparently people dont know the words are vague enough to be taken in a thousand directions
there i gave my explanation
Still, I think it's best not to tell people to shut up. Saying that can spark up negativity and make people feel upset.
If you can tell some people don't understand something, best to just explain it. If they still don't understand then oh well. They will eventually.
why is this the mural in the news video
where’d he go
and why is there a sounds like someone landed on the ground 
What
prolly cause another player was off camera
(been thinking about that king’s star looks like an upside-down cross lately)
Only 4 elder get the 4 elements
right but there used to be the glowy person in the centre
And we see a krill down
Don't forget about the seemingly artificial elements known as knowledge and illusion. We even collect the knowledge and illusion lights in realms like gw and vault.
Ik, I just talking about the 4 light on the wall drawing
Oh okay
I’m relatively new, so what does this mean? (Don’t worry about spoilers)
He meant these things- representing illusion and knowledge respectively
I’ve beaten the game a few times and explored everywhere ||including in the office|| but am clueless about lore
Also this
I see I see
You already know Megan ?
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
HELLO NEW LORE MOFF- credits to Bricky
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit
CANON SKY LORE
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
THE THEORY VAULT
For lore we reccomend starting with these docs-
Particularly that first one- just to get a feel of things
NICE THANKSSSSSS
Waht
The pins are a beautiful beautiful place to be-
Well uh i cant seem to see lore moff doc in pins XD
If it's these things btw- those are the orbs that you have to get in Enchantment- particularly because we don't know what they represent we refer to them as illusion and knowledge
Because you know how there's like 6 orbs of colored light- 4 of those we believe to be pretty much the same as the elements in Prophecy but the other two are just kind of there
I don’t think they are the same
I meant in name-
Oh oki
So far the red one is referred to as either illusion or memory because of its ability to summon murals, and the purple one is thought to be knowledge because of where you even find that thing
Yes
why does nobody ask for me? 
because we don't miss you if you keep showing up anyway skybot-
Wait then do u think the orb in valley kinda counts? Like theres this one at the citadel or sth
Where
Which orb-
Yes
The.... Light orb? Just your average light orb or the spirit
Because there's one in Ice Rink and we're pretty sure that's blue and it corresponds to water
Yeah
Yes
The cyan one is water
No
Oh-
Bro no the Cyan one is Air- found in the space between Isle and Prairie
I think the normal lights are from lightskewers
Hm true
If you're referring to those normal light orbs, I think they're the precursor to the colored ones
Yes
Brought by the Lightskewers to the Vault scholars and turned into the colored orbs
Yes
Hehe
.... Hm
Besides my desires to make jokes about light skewers being people who turn light orbs into tasty shish kebabs...
Is there a lore explanation for how plain old light orbs turn into unique special colored ones
And lore chat feel asleep
Good night lol
Idk- ask the Vault scholars-
I'm tempted to say they just used food coloring
Though I have a few thoughts- like, maybe because they were brought in as pure light, they split the light into a spectrum
Pfff that's true
Though.... I don't think the sky ppl made glass before
Like all their windows are like... Gatey
Oh no it doesn't have to be glass
Oh?
It could just be something like the surface of a bubble, or a crystal
Ahhhh true!
And we see that they're capable of making prisms, I'm sure the diamond shapes could have played a factor in that
considering how the people of Sky use light though I think we can suspend out disbelief just a little-
Alternatively some of the scholars asked to observe the elements up close
And then they tried to replicate the powers of the elements with the lights from the orbs- or incorporated samples, and ended up with orbs that could accomplish something similar but much less powerful
The red and purple lights could just be simple offshoots of the ones they tried to make with the elements
Because you know how sometimes you try to make something and accidentally end up with something completely different- serendipity
Kind of in the same vein how modern microwaves and penicillin were invented
quite off topic from the current chat but,, are there any theories about mantas? they're one of my favorite creatures, and i feel like they have some sort of backstory. i just completed the bell quest in sanctuary, and the huge mantas are so beautiful. a version of mantas is also seen in vault, but they're completely different colors
Oh shoot- NatSkyGeo time
Well there is a theory
there are multiple in fact-
Yes
SOMEONE PLEASE SHARE MY FASCINATION ABOUT THE WHALES WITH ME
THEY'RE SO COOOOOOL
uh- define whales- like the big chonky ones or the slender chonk in Sanc
YAAAAAAAAY THEYRE SO CHUNKY AND MYSTERIOUS
They’re just different body types of the whales >:((((
we support alll
Oop-
i think the sanct whale is a diff species from the regular whales we see
thats what i thought too, because they come together at the end of the bell quest
The ones you see in Wasteland-Valley, the Underground Cavern, and Orbit are the whales
Wait wait I actually didn’t know about a whale in sanctuary?
i know all mantas have to have some sort of connection to the bells, because those are the thins that called sooo many of them over
manta dynamax👍
JHAKJKSAJAK DYNAMAX LMAO
I HAVE A WHALE BIDEO
[image off of google] this is the elder manta
mantas but.. very big and very very many wings
now compare that to the chonk whale
its veryy interesting because we know they can fly and be in water but, they prefer to stay in water somehow?
Yes- the one in Sanctuary is entirely different from the chonky one
the whales resemble fishes hahha
And I say chonk as an affectionate term don't worry
but all the other forms of manta are the opposite and prefer to stay in the sky
maybe since it have such large body mass, buoyancy supports it better then flying
THE WHALES ARE SO CHUNKY THEY MAKE ME SO HAPPY I really wish we saw them more but maybe the lack of sightings is what makes them so mysterious lol
Shouldn't the same be said for the whales then?
We only ever see the fish-like whales in the skies
we dont see them do much but dive back into the clouds🤔
Nowhere near any kind of water source
maybe the clouds supports them like it does us]
Under the clouds is the ocean!
a friend of mine brought up a theory from her friend that sky could all be underwater,, which could explain why all of these ocean creatures are in the sky, but it wouldn't make sense because there is a lot of water/ocean present in the realms
even jellyfish float above water
under the maps its all sea ww
I realize that, but they're flying rather high up for the sea
I think that’s kinda cool, but I’m not sure how it would fit with the rest of the scenery
it also wouldn't explain the beginning (the very beginning in dawn) when it says that people met up in the clouds
Alternatively they could all just be less dense than air and that's why they float
for all we know sky isnt on earth
balloons,,,,,,,
its probably in a different galaxy or universe, soo the gravity there could be much different
Granted the physics here are weird- we have capes magic and a crippling fear of giant shrimp
Biology is also different in this world so maybe them being airborne could be an evolutionary tactic of some kind
we consume light energy to fly so i assume creatures of light does the same, except that they can generate it on their own
Evolving because the sky suits them better than the sea
Not to mention every creature in sky generates spontaneously from light particles
and THAT'S biologically impossible-
oh also more offtopic but i have two theory about krill
- they steal winged light from us, and theyre created from that stolen winged light? they have to consume more to survive or something
- they steal the winged light for their beams of light
irl anyway
They and us are creatures of light it’s not impossible they can do whatever the frick they want >:(((((
man I wish you three were around when the NatSkyGeo thing was big-
Chonk fish are neutral creatures, they arent the same as us
your fascination with these fictional creatures is honestly amazing-
i personally think krills were corrupted whales and they would krill us only for their instinct to follow the light when they were still whales
CHONK FISH ARE CREATURES OF LIGHT FIGHT ME D:<<<<<
They cant contain light nor do they need light to be able to move around
Mushy when we fight we use words lmao
GAAHHHHH
the whale on the way to megan🤔
hmm.. although this is completely possible, krill look much different and are completely different sizes, and completely dropped the ability to swim
its heading to light hahah
halloooooooooooo
krills are just, skinnier i feel
I sort of disagree that the krill are corrupted creatures- I firmly believe they're naturally dark
Sky has a rich biology of both light and dark
WAIT WAIT LEMMIE PULL THAT PIC BACK UP
And that's what leads me to that belief
Whales are weird in the sense that they can fly despite being neutral creatures that shouldnt be able to proper themselve seemingly endlessly to the sky because of their body, but apparently they do
THIS THING LOOKS SUSPICIOUSLY LIKE KRILL BUT AS A CREATURE OF LIGHT
They dont use charge, they just soar whenevr to want to the sky
i think whales are creatures of light as well, except for that it dosent really care for u (since compared to it your light is too small)
Ease off on the caps there m8
Oops sorry I’m excited lol
I mean it kinda does look like a krill
them whales just goes about their own business towards eden haha
ye that too
maybe them krills where the leftovers of the elder's war with creatures of light
The indifference of the whales kind of lends credence to them being a neutral creature in place of light
Whales are just chillin and minding their own business
but they still go to eden which means they are still creatures of light🤔
That doesnt necessarily mean they are creature of light
They don't heal you, nor do they help you in any way- heck when you run into one you lose winged light
Crabs arent creature of the light either but theyre in eden
elder mantas mainly only go to water
that's just bonk 
crabs goes into orbit??
My two other points stand
Other light creatures will be able to recharge you or aid you in your journey
But the whale decidedly doesn't do any of that
i feel like crabs have some sort of beef w cotl
Oh u mean the fish that flies with u to orbit
it crashes the top of vault for u owo
yaya
Well, that one couldve just flew up then flew back down or just orbjt around the planet
Even then I doubt that would matter much since a- we're dead, and b- we can fly
U never see it again near the center afterall
🤔
Whales are so confusing
there's a possibility that the whale didn't do that for us at all and it was just in their way
you DID mention that they were indifferent
i could never really understand why megan is a ball of mantas
Technically that's just a tiny part of Megan
Megan a mega cluster
Megan resembles a supercluster more than she does the simple Empyrean-esque place of Orbit
Im learning new fancy big words
but we do have to enter it by that manta ball
oh uh,, not sure if this is an existing theory or not but a lot of the people i know believe that wasteland is a mix of all realms
that's... weird- and new- please go on-
:o really? okay :D
How so? U think ark isnt part of gw?
i know that the 1 krill temple is supposed to resemble forest temple 👀
Lets hear it anyway
I mean wasteland has buildings like valley that are just broken
Those temples are factories apparently
Oh they are- same structures and everything
dark stone manufacturing
You can see more factories in the distance
Forest and gw will ofc have the same
i think i get the idea they are trying to say, that gw is showing us what the whole kingdom looked after the war(?
not just one map
That’s what I always thought
So it's like a culmination of sorts, that kind of thing?
Everything the Kingdom was- you can see in Wasteland?
well sand is from dawn, temple is from praire i forgot, pots from forest, krill/over all darkness from ||eden||, the tornado at the beginning could be ||orbit||
something else from valley i forgot-- igwhsorjgn
i havent thought about this too much hold onn
If it helps Wasteland has the same architecture as Valley
you can see sm places that reminds you of other maps in gw
While valley is considered the central city, gw in the other hand is sort of like the jndustrial part of the kingdom, basically markets and the likes are there
and wait... maybe gw was targeted since all realms wanted to be seperate, and having one place where they were together wouldn't work?
Theres murals that depicts cargo being shipped to shipwreck even
u know on forest have a animation on the temple door, when they harvest light from the creatures to make their energy stones
Yum
I think the reason ppl might think the realms are a mix of gw is because a lot of resources were transported to gw for war purposes mostly, and the king put out a lot of propaganda over him across Sky but you mostly see him in gw
ah yes the king
Ooh thats interesting
my biggest concern is why nobody came back to gw to try and somehow revive it :(
Now that uve said it, gw is more influenced by the king than the other realms
There was a concept art where megan is depicted to kind of morph to existence from multiple mantas/light creatures.
Also gw is polluted and so is Eden. Krill and crabs thrive from pollution so ofc they'll be in gw.
man i never got this reply thing right
if it used to be "golden" like in the name, it must have been so pretty
It probably was beyond saving
The ark crew, couldve saved gw
Bro would you want to try and revive a land that's been rendered uninhabitable and scattered with krill that has a 99 percent chance of killing you
HECK- would you still have the resources to do so
Wasteland would be hecking costly to try and revive
It sounds like a very good idea
if it were even possible at that point at least
the orbs could only cleanse a part of the ark map 🤔
A theory of mine is that megan is actually a group of light creatures forming a single greater creature, or that the light creatures in the world are actually fragments of megan.
thats true thats true, but its in such a good location and it must have been a great place for everything basically. if it was used as a trading center, its important to the economy etc
Plus you only have a limited number of them
We don't know how widespread the use of the colored orbs are either
Given more time, and if they were still alive, they couldve made smth better
Or if they were even legitimate
so all light creatures are born from it like how the krill's dust scatters while it flies?
Lol ark crew scam sorcerers
And by the time Wasteland's been rendered into the useless piece of land that it is, there likely weren't even enough people left that can try and revive it
Much less let it prosper
i think by the time of gw the elders are already losing the war and fleeing
In my theory, yes. Although it isn't confirmed nor it is canon.
Not only did an entire war happen upon its grounds, it would have been easier if it weren't for the fact that it is now infested with dark creatures
those bones in the 4 krill map...
Wasteland is like this place that was supposed to be great and wonderful but then war happened and they had to focus on other things
Whurtle bones
did anyone thought to dig them up and make a reconstruction haahha
Nah- that was actually likely something intentional
oh oh wait another theory from a friend (not sure if this is already an existing theory)
us skykids are a mix of dark and light, hear me out
if dark creatures take in light and are still dark, and light creatures take in dark and theyre still light...
we are "light" but we are still hurt from dark, and even become dark if all our light disappears
Notice how the bones are placed next to the temple where the factory is
to add on to that, maybe we were originally dark, and given so much light that we became "light"
my theory is that we are rocks that received the light and then we became children of light
like, without it u do become rocks
Tis a common theory yes- skids being a mix of light and dark
A hollow dark shell containing light, something like that
We arent entirely light creatures, be we can be a vessel for light, but unlike dark creatures, we dont absorb that light, rather contain it
rocks arn't really, dark, but ye a vessel
I like the idea of them being mortal (whatever spirits used to be) and light
we could have been extremely dangerous creatures but we still had some sort of hope, and with enough light we became what we are now
so we were tamed in a way with light
Well not normal rocks- maybe the same ones used to make power diamonds
🤔
somehow I doubt we were tamed creatures though
its quite a stretch
it just doesnt make sense for us to be a mix of dark and light but still be working for the light
We were always pretty docile and in the intro cutscene it's painted as though we were sent by someone, from somewhere
i thought we were supposed to be lifeless untill the light was somehow infused into us
The fact that we needed to be woken up tells me that we are some sort of last resort effort
It says something like “they are not different or the same species as the elders” so I think they are the next, newest version, a 2.0 made to be the new generation and also bring some stars back
have anyone seen the land of the lustrous?
some sort of... experiment maybe?
i feel the children of light are similar to the sensei
but we still arent perfect as we are still mortal and can still die (running out of winged light)
We are "light" but we cannot perpetually hover like mantas and jellyfish
And we can only by combusting a part of light, thus emitting blue light in a short burst, while krills need to burn all the light they eat
We did fall from the heavens aswell tho, it wouldnt make sense if we were made from the very diamonds deemed as corrupt
Oh right been meaning to ask IS THRERE PICTURES OF THESE TURTLES?!
I was about to say murtles
a praying machine left to free the souls of elders
I don't think the perfection lies in the immortality of skids considering we always have to die and be reborn to do our job
Just go on an old sky beta walkthrough
Which one though
Like which land
Idk just look for the one that's like the longest
Longest vid
And i think it's in the beginning at the 18 min timestamp
Why's everyone not talking
the winged lights are just borrowed souls and we have to return them to where they should be?🤔
the elders left memories to lead the skid towards definite death, and made it seem like the right thing to do
although depending on how you see immortality we're effectively immortal by virtue of an endless cycle of death and rebirth
and the skid are doomed to relive this and sacrifice itself endlessly(?
pretty much yes
Unless they dont want to I guess
As in they (megan) gifted us the gift of immortality for saving the spirits?
There's not exactly an actual end in sight to our mission- plus simply staying in one place is just delaying the inevitable
Doesn't that mean we're just
When you do eventually die of something else other than Eden, you're revived and the Light is still calling to you
Stuck in an endless loop cycle?
so the skid's only purpose of existing is to free the lost souls 🤔
it makes me think we are artificially made for this one thing
Except never ending Deja vu
We die and we redie
But that wouldn't make sense tho
We're skids sent down for a job- playing janitor and cleaning up lost spirits and helping them ascend yes
My theory doesn't make sense
Well I think Megan always sents fallen stars in the storm
ohh another theory, i still don't know if this is a common theory or not since i just entered this community
each elder are all friends of a higher powered god, but during the wasteland war the dark won (obvi)
eye of eden was created to connect with god, who is the shiny figure during rebirth but the higher god started worrying for his elder friends so sends cotl to meet them and then report to god. (this theory is from a friend)
but that end part we can add on the previous theory, that the higher god whipped up some sort of experiment to make cotl, but we still have some sort of darkness in us because we were made in such a rush
If we're stuck in a time loop aren't spirits supposed to be non lit up?
Like aren't they supposed to be blue if we're in a time loop?
Or is it just game mechs
O
i think its just game mechanisms
Technically not game mechs, because we also have seasons
Yup
there should be many more spirits in the kingdom to save
Well
So when we say they're in a loop- it's not the perfect kind of loop
Because somehow there's always more people to be saved
adding on to the theory i put above, when we rebirth we go back to exactly our old motives, our old goals. we could just be an experiment or some sort of last minute prep or plea for help
Seasons are there to make the skids anti-bored
its only the skid that lives in a loop, i think
I don't believe we can dismiss all the spirit hijinks as game mech-
Maybe when we save winged lights other souls replace them so we have to go back
So what we're talking about lore dudes
Including Seasons
rebirth wipes memory
Oh heya there
SoP didn't give enough loreee
Pretty sure rebirth does not wipe memory
if P stands for Prophecy that's just objectively wrong
I think rebirth is a riencarnation into another body
And next season doesn't even look like it has lore itself 
I disagree- I think learning about how the spirits lived in Valley is lore
It kinda just talks about how the prince faced the trials
As your body turns into stone in eden storm so you take control of one of the kids you save, then your memories are transfered there and suddenly you are reborn
Spirits stay the way they are whenenever we die and rebirth the cycle can be because that they are part of the implants, memories of the prince
d a n c e
tHAT'S A GIGANTIC PIECE OF LORE WDYM
HISTORY OF SKY-
Rebirth does not wipe memory, thats what i think
OBJECTIVE LORE-
It was about prophecy(ies) but in the past... As all the memories we relive from spirits
JSHSHS
sigh ok wait im gonna resend the theory because i think it explains a lot of the things we're talking about right now
Prophecy was all about the rise of the msot powerful being in this world
whoop gotta go cr now www
Prince/king

And how it brought the golden age of the old civilization
(repeat bc i think it explains a lot of things we're talking about)
ohh another theory, i still don't know if this is a common theory or not since i just entered this community
each elder are all friends of a higher powered god, but during the wasteland war the dark won (obvi)
eye of eden was created to connect with god, who is the shiny figure during rebirth but the higher god started worrying for his elder friends so sends cotl to meet them and then report to god. (this theory is from a friend)
but that end part we can add on the previous theory, that the higher god whipped up some sort of experiment to make cotl, but we still have some sort of darkness in us because we were made in such a rush
when we rebirth we go back to exactly our old motives, our old goals. we could just be an experiment or some sort of last minute prep or plea for help
aw heck imma need to take a late breakfast see you all in a bit
Woah a lot of text
its just a resend because nobody replied to it but it explains a lot of things yall are talkin abouttt
I really disagree on that theory but i do believe cotl are not natural beings but artificially made
The Prince fortold
I do think eye of eden is a massive energy generator to power an entire civilization
A industrial facility operates on top of the mountain
It has industrial purposes, not religious ones
Also yeah i think during the war multiple spirits took sides (except maybe isle and praire elder)
Maybe im wrong maybe im not, i just love lore lmao
there are just so many different theories.... cmon give us something to go off of 👁️💧👄💧👁️
I think i misread your theory @eager hull my bad if i misread something
my grammar isnt that great, sorry if it doesn't make sense rghiuji
One day i shall share my theory, but it will be instantly denied lmao
please share :o even if its a stretch, a theory is a theory
We don't deny theories here
A long time ago some dudes denied a theory of mine lmao
Whoever denies someone's theory needs to read pinned messages
I think the Elders descended on Cloudearth and tried to engineerize a way to send as much souls as possible to Megan to save all lights possible from a Great Darkness (like the end of the universe slowly darkening one solar system at time)
But their tech was only partially able to beam to Orbit, thus the destruction of Eden
wait uh i just got a super random theory
what if there was no war on gw but its just a random pollution site BIHSRGJI
the war was at eden, not gw. there are so many different parts of gw because thats where all pollution/trash goes. it could have been made to symbolize pollution in real life. or, before it was a trash site it could have been a great place for rich or higher up people (golden wasteland, when you shine your candle on the ground ints gold) but it became too hard to manage and too expensive so it was deserted
I thought this after reready the intro, the part about "...together light is infinite..." & The part about how elders failed, or something like that (not sure, I read that a long time ago)
thats a very odd theory and it doesnt match up witn anything but its still there
@eager hull there's evidence of war in gw
:o yeah thats what i thoguht
And the elder is a big warrior man
thought^
Before exiting gw, you see battle fences and weapons and shields everywhere
There's no evidence of war in Eden
Pretty sure at least
yeaahh
And it seems there HAS to be some kind of higher, friend of the elders since we see them connected to the dude in the opening. That guy sure does not look like a megabird. But maybe they are the same thing I dunno
hmm adding on to the artificial cotl theory, we can literally buy resize potions to make ourselves perfect? is nobody talking about that? even if its a potion its still so out of the ordinary.. literally you can resize yourself to your perfect needs.
"perfect"?
IMHO that is just game mechanincs
Changing height to whatever we want it to be doesn't = trying to be perfect
Interesting thing about the potions, they say “turn into a baby” and “turn into an adult” when apparently skykids cant age
The only time beauty standards are seen as people perfecting themselves is when it's heavily enforced. There's no enforcement of someone's height needing to be a certain way to appear as perfect.
But still interesting idea, @eager hull
It might just be a way for them to look more like how mature they are mentally after they have had a bit of life or somethin. But basically yep they just for game cosmetics.
Yeah
I feel like it resembles more of a kid going "I wanna look grown up!" And making themselves taller
You know.....I like that better
Something more innocent
ooh yeah yeah, perfect wasn't really the right word for that by the way uH
Ugdudgidh
It's ok
Even though a growth potion still puts you a few heads under an adult spirit
It's ok the kids still think they're grown up after becoming tall
thats too truee
The other day I was in Office and afte the spacestation trip me and my friend dived into the unknown this we finally reach the ocean.
We tried to point at a light flickering area which from this picture (zooming) might seems a group of clouds and it just reminded me one thing
what did it remindyou of
the emptiness of the world
oh and i will bring this up again while on the topic of office
although its probably just a fun easter egg, that ghost dudeee 
they're not a spirit... you can't interact with them, they aren't a skykid either.. i need to know moree
Alot of time before I started my journey in Sky someone.used the tableglitch or something to go from Home Island to the other far Island in the horizon (the one with the Intro Murals we see just one time and never more)
@eager hull it's just an Easter egg
sadly yes, but it could have such a good backstory if it wasn't
I named him Gilbert the ghost
So could this be that those far far far away clouds are the Home Space Island surroundings?
I read that Gilbert exists because I guess people used to think the office was haunted or smth
Possibly
And if anyone doesn't know what murals I am talking about, I hope some Lore Veteran could show those old screenshots
The intro to the game?
The intro island expedition
So the icon above eden looks exactly like the head of the dude in the middle
i hear Gilbert-
Thanks for the video! The part about
"With stars united, our light was infinite / But darkness came, and stars fell"
is exactly what inspired my theory I mentioned before about why the Elders desceneded on Cloudearth
So maybe its the King? But then I don’t know why he was such a connecting force. The main dude.
assuming the King completed the Trials why WOULDN'T he be a connecting force
I kinda assumed its someone who was in charge of the others, including the King
But how hes in the middle and hes in the center of the rest of the lands.
Oh right, if he was up there to begin with then he would have to have done the trials after they fell?
Perphas... But why the Prince wasn't recognized, if he fell like the Elders ?
If he were also the Eden Elder, wouldn't it be that the Elders recognized them and like- didn't have to bother with the Trials to coronate him
Or was it that the Prince was depowered when he fell?
Maybe he was eden elder, but not the king, until after the trials. But I can’t come up with a reason why he would be in the middle.
You did it @hushed steeple, I knew i could believe in you!
what word spawned that?
the word "trials" probs
Maybe the intro murals were being told by someone after the events of everything
It's even possible that no one knew about THOSE specific murals
Maybe they weren't predictions, but observations- and whoever drew the murals simply knew of the Elders' history
Including the Prince who will eventually be crowned King
It could make sense if the King looked like a child at first (being the prince) since the figure in the middle looks a lot like the skykid figure at “bring our stars home”
And that's why he's specifically in the middle?
The murals in the intro are a story that's told to us, and whoever drew them must have known that the King in child form went on to become the monarch of the kingdom
granted most figures look like that
or at least- the de-facto leader of the Elders
We don't see the murals elsewhere after all
It wouldn't make that much sense for them to be an ancient thing since not only would it have predicted the fall of the Elders, the history of the Kingdom, and who became King
But also the coming of the skids
what if theres nothing wrong with the king, but rather the eden diamond is more like a failed project to bring the stars home
Its easy to assume the figure in the middle is a god-type. But I think he also glows like the victor in the Proph murals
If the diamond corrupted the king who corrupted eden which corrupted the diamond then my headache
So like- a thing where the King wasn't consumed by greed and was more of an effort on him to deliver his subjects to Ascencion
So- well-intentioned extremist King?
mm yea
I could see a “anything to get back” type senecio where war or something does not matter because hes going to get us home!
'no cost too great'
I don't think the murals were made as an observation of past events, I think they were predicted by the Prophets, each with their own piece of the same puzzle (only from our POV it looks like the past)
But for them it was the future, this is why I think there is a Krill among the last wall
-the King, probably
maybe. he wasnt trying to harm his ppl to get them back but he got into beef with the creatures. he got corrupted maybe from a long time working with the diamonds, and then corruption magnified his desperation
They forsee a glimpse of the darkened times
as for the wasteland battlefield ... maybe ppl start to revolt as the diamonds begin to pollute lands
And I think one of the pins for Prairie elder says there was a prophecyy about the coming of the sky children
this is more entertainment than all of netflix but shhh
Nice!
Isle Elder's poem suggests that too now that you mentioned that
So do we think the middle guy in opening intro is King/Prince?
yes.
But one question- wouldn't those murals have tipped off the Kingdom that MAYBE they should take precautions?
Or were those exact precautions the things that the King was trying to accomplish?
idk what to do with wasteland battlefield bit bc i myself think there was a war against the king (& i like the idea the king is responsible for how damaged wasteland and eden are). but so far ive been thinking what if the corruption does not mean he turns bad, but rather it means he did bad things convinced that theyre for the good
I think opening intro is prophecyy made after fall of kingdom but before sky kids
Thus Nutcracker's theory about the King being a well-intentioned extremist
Isle Elder's poem suggests that too now that you mentioned that
@queen locust what poem?
Dawn breaks with stars fallen,
Ferries stir to distant calls.
Shepherd us home back upwards,
A herald awakes to heed us all.
"Dear Children, no hope was lost,
We saw of your return to us."
The Elder opens up the skies,
And together again, we fly.
-Isle Eder pin
This one
epik
Oh yeah I was thinking of that one
Fields of harvest, prairies of joy.
Farmer and fauna as one.
The Elder protects the creatures of light,
For darkened days to come.
Fly up, fly away,
For the Children of Light in need.
We shall recall our days of wonder,
And feel its air once more.
-Prairie Elder pin
Here's Prairie Elder's for good measure
(i bet unlike pale king, the king did want to connect w his ppl a bit, or is at least sociable bc he can read minds)
I like nothing more than imagining the looks on all the elders faces when they realized they are about to be sent thousands of children.
we dont have minds so he cant read us
If we go by the crackpot Wing Buff theory from last night yes probably
Because you know how the Wing Buffs function like the Winged Light imprints
And how sometimes we refer to the Winged Lights as the Prince's memories
Maybe he imparted a part of himself into each of the spirits
And that's how they're able to grant you wing buffs?
(mm trying to explain battlefield bit
while the king looks to the diamonds as a way to return to the skies, ppl begin revolting against it due to its adverse environment effects. king didnt want to care for that so he insisted and put propaganda statues bc he believes he’s in the right)
King: seriously guys I'm not trying to kill you all I'm trying to SAVE you- would my thousands of statues lie to you?
p much
And the diamond, I think, was originally inside the mountain rather than floating menacingly on top of it, prolly plenty of time to have a castle around it to research it.
thats what real kings would way to the people
see it even fits irl apparently lmao
With this Daleth poem I now see it this new addition in all its glory
Might be because of the dilapidated structure of Eden in general, but maybe it was just always inside
AHHHH! I love it! Its cute!
huh what if the king is sent like after the realms turned into wasteland but he messed up and eden happened so now skids come
actually, nvm
I could see Sky kids being loosely based on the image of the king before his, uh, whatever made him big. As a kind of “I liked you better when you looked like this” from megabird.
Megan: see look at you- you look a lot less stupid without that heavy freaking star-head
bru
o-o > ✨
pale king: everyone makes fun of me cuz im small
king of eden: have u considered a mech suit?
(tbf pk wanted to connect to his bugs)
Yo what theory I missed
prenc?
ohhh
Im a lore moth but enjoying the theories
Oh- heck welcome to lore chat then!
Have you looked through the pins already btw?
wait is that a p i g
yes
that's actually awesome holy-
You can say that in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
It's most likely gonna be scrapped into a new season
this is awesome art, but it belongs in #sky-fanart-sketches-and-art-chat or #wishlist-and-ideas-archived, this isn’t the place for fan made seasons. i hope you understand 
where ?
Wait wait wait wait wait wait REALLY
Its prolly for year of the pig, chinese zodiac. Maybe a new years celebration picture?
I hope it returns by the end of 2021
Maybe
which is 1 more year of Sky
Piggies are underappreciated animals
So agreed
I have a pet pig...
2
anywho...that constellation maybe or not gonna be scrapped..
It's beautiful to be not added in the game.
Imagine....lore about a pig

I hate how my year is the most horrible year in my life-
Things arent always lucky. As shown FROM THE YEAR OF THE RAT.
:‘(
who cold pinged me
You did not turned off ping—
i never turn off ping 
Relatable kinda
Mmmmaaaybe eye of eden used to take over even more land like a little more before no return point where the last krill roams and thats why we can see some old statues in those places
With time and generations of light bringing moths their light pushes the darkness and the rocks rain
Like its slowly containing it
That's quite a positive theory
I wonder when they'll relase more lore tbh I didn't get enough from prophecy xd
Probably the upcoming season
Lore Chat still dead part 2
It’s like 1am, of course it’s dead
12:47 AM
Lore Chat Died part 3
i mean- what do ya'll wanna talk about-
Dude it’s 10 am and i feel dead too so what
I remember this one person saying that maybe the music in each realm represents the state of each elder, I think mental wise
And I love this theory
It's 2:50 PM for me
Vault's music is serene but at the same time when we get to the summit it's like
Don't tease me with graduation music that I will never hear in person-
I think it resembles that Lamed is happy to see us
It sounds like an "I can't wait" moment
Seemed she was excited to give us knowledge on Eden
And maybe power crystals since she was holding one
What about T e t h
I have never heard the music at the last area and the temple
My volume was always down so-
When we enter that one level after going through the gates in the beginning of forest, that harp music starts playing. It sounds calm, but there's a moment where the harp changes its tone to something more higher pitched with less of a calm pattern.
It feels like a sigh. An "I'm so bored" kinda sigh.
Halo music-
Harp
I tend to mix halo and harp together no clue why
I have never really heard forests music except for the area with the river
Because apparently im too focused on cr-?
After we watch Teth's cutscene and go to the end of the forest level, the music sounds so happy. It's like the elders like seeing us.
Ofc they do. Who doesnt like a chaotic skid
Isggidgjzjgx
I can definitely see gw's music resembling the mental state of Tsadi
Lol
Valleys music is too loud. I want to die everytime i hear it-
I just cant-
I CANT WITH THE MUSIC THERE-
I agreev
Valley music definitely resembles the twins' mental states
I hate the races more-
I love the races
Definitely
I've learned techniques on how to beat anyone
The races kill me inside-
So isle, with the most dramatic mehhhhh
Rip
Everytime i need to go to the village-
Heck yeah
Anyway
I don't remember what isle music sounds like
I never listened to isle music much
I don't really go to isle much
Uh i can go now
the only isle music I remember is the one that plays when you fly up to the temple
I remember mehhhh
Yeah I feel like isle never really had much music
And that
So he just-
Meh
Prophecy cave has music I just don't remember what it sounds like
Isle elder: meh
Isle grandpa goat is the first thing I see when I get back what
Isle Elder is best Elder fit me
🐐
So isle is most meh
Vault elder is my favorite elder.
That's all I can say. Best is subjective.
Oki
Idk what you mean by meh
No feeling
Just meh
MEH
i love all the elders 
My fav is forest mama
my favorite boomers♥️
Jhdjhdkhdhkdhjd
Skods can "ok boomer" the elders
I only hate valley because of the music.
skods
Just the music.
skods
Skods
I love the valley music kdejsjshhw
I find it hilarious that boomer applies to the Twins as well
I like listening to the race music on the soundtrack because there’s a bit in it at the end that doesn’t play because it loops on the race
I hate listening to music while candle running and the valley music overlaps with my music
Lol
Mine too
The twins are hip so they'll just go "ok zoomer" back at the skods
oh my ggod fndjdjrhrrh
Im not a zoomer, since when did sky have zoom
Lmao
Imagine zoom in sky
Zoomers are generation z
Okay good point
Yes
Nyoom
Wait no
which elder has the best cutscene music in your opinion 
i really love the epic swell in gw
Idk-
Vault
I never listened to-
oh
: o
What about eden.
the music in eden goes so hard
BUUUUUUUM BUUUUUUUUM DUUUUUUUUN DUUUUUUN
That's just not it
The Eden elder exists. If there was no evidence of their existence, that means they never existed. As long as we're aware that an Eden elder existed then of course they count.
What have i started
Anyway
wait what if the elders ok boomer each other
the poor Isle Elder
Then it would last an eternity of just "ok bommer"ing
Lmao
They'd gang up on the isle elder
I mean maybe it was a way to keep occupied in limbo
must’ve been kinda boring there before us kids arrived
Lol
so their only entertainment is 'ok boomer' memes
With our chaos, ground falling, honking, nyooming
Clown to Clown Communication
When skids came into the world, we started with burning corpses
Dang

And collecting children
isle elder, watching the first skids come flying up to their doorstep: 👁️👄👁️
ujsbdbsnshsbsbsbsvsbd
ok so uh
noooooooo
who are the elders 
What
uh
I thought they were just called spirits
The people that you see at the end of each level when finishing it
the tall gray/blue/white/black people that show up
ooooo
and get a cutscene all to themselves with you
ooooooooooo
and after it you see the constellation for that realm
yeah ik those guys
Yeah they're elders
my favorite is prob the guy with the spear and shield because I'd like to imagine him using them to smack around krill
His fanon name is Tsadi
Are you perhaps new to lore chat Artia-
Uncle Heels
the elders have the best sense of fashion in the whole game. change my mind
I gotta agree
Agreed.
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
HELLO NEW LORE MOFF- credits to Bricky
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit
CANON SKY LORE
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
THE THEORY VAULT
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Then I do suggest reading these to have a feel for what we talk about here!
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