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season of prophecy is already over. why is the bot still babbling?
not yet over tho
ohh
skybot talks whenever they feel like it
Guys this is important... we need enough material for the mushroom episode...
And dm me the theories...
O-
snap.... my candles wont get converted when ts arrived?
Ye...
Can I see the script btw?
Oh ill dm u
Yay
The mushroom people??
DID MISTER MUSHROOM TELEPORT FROM HOLLOW KNIGHT TO HERE WHAT
STOP WITH THE HOLLOW KNIGHTT
Oh the glow mushrooms... Right
The mushrooms in forest
Oh sorry
Dm me the theories plz
A mod legit went to lore chat, it was very chaotic 
Forgive me I'm still obsessed with bug warriors
It's ok
yo pyre check dm
what happened then? 
We all screamed
Chaos obviously
And scrambled
Pfff
And the mod was very confused on why we were screaming
And then we shouted random lore stuff
Pfff
Well, I shouted random lore stuff
i wanna ask if jellyfish hair is dead jellyfish we used as wig or not-
or are they secretly mushroom that grow on our head-
I-
I-

weird that fungus jump on our bodies
Mushrooms secretly help Megan get her message
The spirits were chilling in doest forest and they hear
"pspspsps worship Megan"
ahaaaa i see what you did there megan
(what are moffs referred to ingame, assuming moths dont exist)
Oh, uh
I-
Moths are the same as everyone other sky child
The human overlords just decided to separate them into classes
what i mean is say you are writing wholly first person as a legit skykid living in sky, what are moths referred to canonly?
bc moth is an irl jargon
Well
They're just... Uh... Children of light?
Yeah there isn't really a Canon term for moths
It's just a fanon term that even the game devs use
oh k
Yea
Moth is a nickname for a beginner player 
They have received that nickname because of their sloppy flight, brown wings, and addiction to light
yes
slightly late, but even then, moth isn’t even a universal term. the japanese part of the fandom calls them sparrows iirc
Could someone give me theories on mushroom biology and lifestyle?
What do they eat?
Why do they grow in trees?
R the mushrooms why the trees r petrified?
Are they all connected in one large network?
Is that how we teleport?
Like star trek discovery's spore drive
How big do they grow
How do they reproduce?
My theory is that mushrooms aren't plants at all
Ofcourse me too
Long ago, trees were tapped for their light collected from the sky.
The places where the trees were tapped never fully healed, and stored tree light saps out to this day
The most common shape for this leakage is a mushroom
Oooooh i got a theory... the mushrooms have a huge mycelial network underground which makes
It possible for us to teleport
If so, why do we only see caps in the forest?
There’s mushrooms?
yes, in forest :DD
Thats just how parasitic mushrooms look like.... there are root like things that many types of mushrooms have that r like super huge and these networks span all the way from homespace to right before stormlock
(Stormlock was blown up when the big red diamond blew up and darkness seeped super deep into the ground so no mycelium roots there lol)
So my theory is that thats how we teleport lol
huh
All creatures r born naturally... lol
So...unlikely
Mushrooms are not creatures tho
Even irl they defy classification as plant or animal
Fungi
Not animal, not creature
Sooooo orks arent creatures?
Orks would fit the classification of an animal
Don't orks move about? Don't they eat and do other animal things
I believe most ork versions are carniverous
Plus, it would not be compatible with most theories we have abt mushrooms so i respect your theory and i wont tell u to abandon it... but it wont go into the documtary smas it goes against its purpose...
Plus, thats my point, null...orks r creatures and they move about and do animal like things but they r fungi in the end...
So fungi r creatures too...lol
Imma search the definition of creatures...
Ok.
Btw, I came up with a new buterfly theory
cool
Buterflies may naturally lay eggs around dark plant seeds. The dark plant will grow around the eggs, providing the buterflies time to develop while protecting them from light eating creatures.
When the time comes for the butterflies to hatch, adult buterflies swarm the plants to hatch their young.
huh
For the past few hours all uve been saying is
“cool”
“Huh”
“yes”
“i-“
“huh”
First, creatures r creations, whether animate or inanimate
Second, null, the Butterfly theory is a cool and awsome theory and it will go into the script even tho its already finished lol
Wait@short owl read wut i just wrote and then sneep plz...
Plz... im so srry but its important u read it...

Good night Pyre. Glad you like the theory
Ok gn
cool
Ooookkkkaaaaayyyyy folks more mushroom theories~~~~~
No I don't :'))
Light mushroom spores flies everywhere
Ya know those white particles
Forest has the best environment for them
Dark,wet place
Perfect for mushrooms
While in other places are either too dry or too light
Idk that’s my theory
huh, cool

hallo
Lore chat got krilled :((
But do you have any theories 'bput Mushrooms?
*bout
Cause Pyre needs it for NatSky
Which is a rip-off of NatGeo
But don't tell them that, we don't want to get copyrighted
nice
We need mushroom theories
Unmm
Maybe if we throw a mushroom at a krill they will hit it???
....what?
.
looks like dead ones
Those r sparks, which have a symbiotic relationship with many light creatures.... but thats just a theory... but we r going with the symbiosis theory in our previous vids and we need consistency lol
First, all creatures r born naturally and second ghost mantas arent real.... prob...
We rlly need to change the name sky geo dont we...
New name suggestions that DON'T infringe on copyright law? Lol
Anyone?
i mean i think its fine to call it sky nat geo or whatever lol
its just a little project in a small community
What if mushrooms are the corpses of jellyfish then? And the pics floshie sent are "dead" mushrooms? Or ancient mushrooms that were fossilized along with the trees or smth
i mean it might be
Since both jellyfish and mushroom is pretty similar in appearance. And the "dead" mushrooms seem to be hard
Well... all creatures r born naturally applies the other way around too...
Plus... mushrooms have a much wider brim
And if u look closely, Jellyfish have a pattern at the top while mushrooms dont...
mushrooms are poor jellysfishes who float too close to the tree and got fused into the tree
/yellow-ish tops?
I personally like flos's theory that Jellyfish r an evolved form of mushrooms lol
I mean thats super cool
Exactly but those r patterns
That would make sense 
Considerating that all mushrooms fuse to trees, here is my theory...
Long ago, all the trees were thriving, but then came the mushrooms... they were, ofcourse parasitic, and while they were capable of feeding their stasis sparks, the irganic tissue needed nourishment as well and they sucked the nutrients outta the trees and so they died...
Pretty much like normal mushrooms that grow on trees lol
hmm
hallo
that sounds pretty good
nat geo: sky
copyright intensifies
Nat hydro
baby jelly
@bitter shale the stasis sparks... not spores otherwise we would have jellies and mushrooms growing outta our bodies lol and that doesnt happen
So the sparkles r stasis sparks
Plus, mantas have them too and mantas dont have spores... they r made in clouds and emerge fully mature... the fact that mantas gave the sparkles means that sparkles arent spore
Im still gonna to call it spores
Aaaas u wish
Not sure if this belongs here but I'll just leave it here, why do the children of light always stare at the sky and the ones on eden near pnr is sitting down compared to the ones on the other realms? Still unsure if this is the question do belong here
It’s a lore topic so it might belong here
They longed to fly again, to be free.
Other ones near eden, have given up hope to fly again, to be free
Ah like that, thanks for answering
That's how I see them, the others silently await their ascension to the heavens, hopefully.
Those by the end, felt no hope for their savior, a lost hope fueled by dread and sorrow. Alone and away from the world.
REVELATION!! Could it be that the Season of Dreams Guide is the skating girl from the future looking back on her past self?
it makes a lot of sense that it would be
bc other quest givers have looked back on their memories in the season quests, but the difference is that its memories that are further back
the season of dreams questgivers memories are further back, i mean lol srry for bad wording
No prob lol
Maybe as the final cutscene we’ll see a time skip where the skating girl is now the guide and is skating with the valley twins
In the coliseum
aghsdg that would be so cute
im rlly hoping we get more content of the elders sometime
That is my dream and i hope the girl actually have that too-
Skating with valley twins...

yall does our capes have a mind of its own?
do they tho
hey do any of you know the meaning behind the drawings on the boat in forgotten ark
It basically tells how the spirit got stranded there
Umm so I asked to have old questgivers as npcs in office in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived so uhhh
Support??
ok folks, the 4th episode of the sky documentary has been finished!!!!!

@icy spruce u wanted the script?
now, we must start the 5th episode... if you have any mushroom theories, plz dm me the theory and share it with lore chat here...
oh and also we are looking for a narrarator to read the stuff for the documentary lol...
oh u could narrarate it lol
ohhhh
it just hit me!!!!
wouldnt it be epic if bricky narrarated this?????
I can try narrating
I need to try out voice work anyway
but I also don't have a setup for voicework either
ok @sacred rapids, @undone harbor, could u guys decide who is gonna narrarate? plz?
and ppl, for our next episode, i need to compile jellyfish theories so plz dm me the theories if u thought of or already had theories plz...
Do jellyfish eat-
Brick brick brick brick
I’d love to, but I have my own lore-related scripts and videos I’m trying to record and edit
So I’ll have to pass
plz elaborate... lol
Like, do they just eat light to survive
i would love theories on jelly life style or biology lol....
what do they eat?
why do they live where they live?
who does what 👁
make up cool stuff supported by speculation lol
If they eat light, where is that light from?? It's raining in forest
well.. its your theory... u make it up~~~
UhhH
Idk man
I don't have enough big brain power to come up with any theories for jellyfish nor mushrooms
ok... how abt.... the stasis sparks inside the mushrooms generate enough light for both of them...
Hmm but then I have to ask, where does the stasis spark come from
Okay nvm, I just understood 
I'll take that as an explanation 
ye... the stasis spark is like mitochondria lol and it travels with the spores and they grow together lol...
hello
i have came back from hell
Ahh
ok i gtg and sneep now lol
Night night
I can’t
Ya know
SCHOOL-
And the fact my mother never gives me my phone in the middle of the week
Night pyre ☺️☺️
Here's a jelly theory
Jellyfish are energy based beings with only losely connected mass. While this unusual setup leaves them vulnerable to drain and preditors, also allows them to seemingly phase through solid ground, giving them access to light sources most cannot access.
Ancestors often chose their light mining sites based on the locations of jellies. @teal orbit
what are the tentacles for
When skykids approach the tentacles they get dragged upwords. This may be true of all light sources - get too close to them and you're dragged up to the bulb. This is especially useful for protecting baby jellies who get lost in the ground
make sense
well since later this week im going to have nothing better to do but my mic might not be the best
Tho why does the jellyfish have to start spinning as if its charging up whenever you interact with it and shoot you up
Only thing i could think of as to why this happens is, sky kids contain too much energy and the jellyfish have to spin fast enough to shed excess energy to prevent overloading and possibly dying
Nop, people talk about theories regarding sky here so it doesnt really matter
They dont
Actually no they do
Atleast the versions of us does
But other children of lights are bald
Ive never seen a star/col actually die so who knows whether we bald or not
Actual hair?maybe
I've always thought all our cosmetics are made out of light
But i do think we arent bald because when we ascend we keep our hair despite being ascended
Now that i think about it, col that we collect are more like souls rather than vessels like we sky kids are
We can only contain but we cant be contained by other sky kids
Hey guys anyone sufferring from same amnesia like feeling before exam where I keep on forgetting some points required for exam
Check a doctor or something and I don't think this is related to Sky?
But pls check for help just in case
Or something-
Oh,got that too,maybe you're just too nervous
But please find help-
This is normal for humans.....some memory were missing because if our anxious feeling before exams..... Its best to keep calm down.... And, pray to your God for the blessing to answer that questions...
Where is this from?
Sky
Crazy how they draw the fighting but but never display the enemy
Do actual moths exist in sky? Like the insects
I think there may have been one in the slumbering shipwright’s scene
i dont think a butterfly would be flying around that late at night
Although, since it was presumably nighttime then, would that mean prairie used to have day and night cycles?
yes, it seems the kingdom used to experience regular day/night and seasonal cycles
Thank you!
Something about the murals in Ark about crabs
Here is the first one after people come with pots see 3 crabs, 4 pots.
And the one after it, 7 crabs no pots (or maybe 1 in the middle too)
This however, would not explain how they are edible, hehe.
forest had a night time too, the cutscene for belonging when you finished the constellation turned the sunny forest area to night, just in time for family dinner 
Small question what do you think the sky kids look under their mask? Clothes? I meant their hands or face are dark but the "eyes" and chest/forehead diamonds are glowing
I suppose maybe they have a full glowing face/chest or just have the same spots as on the mask and clothes
I assumed they are very bright on the inside, where the light is kept, and if they where open their eyes it would look like headlights.
i dont thinkthey have faces
the unmasked mask shows them just blank
Considering the abundance of pots, thats possible.
The lore of Sky feels very similar to Journey’s lore, but with a twist. I’m curious to figure out how they compare and contrast.
What is this place
It's in isle for anyone who doesn't know
I know it's from a season but
There's a boat and three lights and I was wondering if there's lore behind it
Oh maybe it worked in whichever season it was made for then
Its lightseekers i think they kept the light they collected there
from fox band’s crab sheet music video, i think its for relieving a spirit memory
Yes it is from lightseekers
Wait r u aloud to put ||credits|| spoilers here
(question: if the hc goes valley elders govern their own classes (higher class or lower class), i wonder if they like their jobs or argue over which to pick? did they make peace to suck it up? or did they genuinely love their own classes and the responsibilities w it)
Ok so I was watching the credits right, and I was wondering. Why is there two worlds instead of 1? Is there another race of creatures in that other world that we don’t know of (yet). Or could it be the world Journey takes place on 
i answered that to myself that the realms are simply on one planet and there are other planets in sky’s universe
its like our world. in outer space there are planets and stars. its how i see it
Hmm, then why can’t we access the other stars out there
And why is there only two planets
maybe our mission is bound to our world alone?
hc: sky exists in our world but in another universe (following multiverse theory)
its lowkey like whats-it-called, fermi paradox? the one w the great filter
are we the only ones out here
Sky civilization doesn't have the technology for that
And maybe the civilization before didn't either
Or
When everything went corrupt, the ancestors did have the technology for it and dipped to one of those other planets
are we the only skykids out here? are there other types of skykids? are there other creatures called “aliens”?
oof...
so what if the survivors went to another planet and colonized it??
martian journey oml
its p funny n sad. going to another planet unaware that ur original home is slowly repopulated
what are alive spirits even like?
skykids have never seen human life before
sob
I wouldn't know what to think if me and all of humanity went on like, Mars just to find out Earth has been recolonised
clincher is ppl on mars can be evolved differently so martians /= earth humans woo
if it goes the same for ancestor spirits
(but if there are alive ancestors out there, how come seasonal spirits are also dead? and our realms welcome only dead spirits?)
Well, I don't think everyone would of been able to come with
Recolonizing costs money. The people who died probably couldn't of payed to get on aboard and or there was no room left.
It was probably getting cheaper and cheaper for people to be able to come along the more people payed for that transportation but it became too late
The others who were left just kept on living
You could question "but why are there spirits who died in war, resembling the time before Eden corrupted?".
Well, the spirits may all be from different generations or centuries and such
well I have a theory of the king and those planets if you want to hear
eh?
alright so
the eden diamond started overloading with the king not knowing. the king comes into the room with no clue that it wasn't supposed to do that and it ya know fractured causing tones of energy to be released sending the king to another planet
So basically the king got isekai'd by the diamond blast, fantastic
YeS
You know that one theory about the big pink planet we seen in the ending is where Journey taken place
Maybe the diamond send the King there
And he become the journey protagonist-
Idk, imagine if that is the case lol
Lol
i come into the chat in the middle of class and the first thing I read is the King getting isekai'd
beautiful-
Yes lol
In real world we have trucks, in sky world we have diamonds
Welp-
Tractors
Yes
does the King get greeted by a useless goddess
oh shoot what if he's greeted by m e g a n
Maybe
Hi i'm kinda new(not really) and i'm lost. Who's the king?...
Hi T~T
The king
Is a lie
Jk jk welcome to the lore chat
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
HELLO NEW LORE MOFF- credits to Bricky
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit
CANON SKY LORE
https://docs.google.com/document/u/1/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit?ouid=111696134187527164036&usp=docs_home&ths=true
THE THEORY VAULT
Base information about the King can be found in the first document
Long story short, he's a vague entity that's important to the lore of Sky
Presumably the head monarch even among the Elders
Everytime I'm reading a story, the chat is active
Ye, King might be well--the King of Sky
Oh thank you i've been having headaches searching the enternet (ಥ⌣ಥ)
There also exists a Prince, and possibly a golden bird deity though Megabird is a questionable existence-
Yep
lore chat's got ur back
Yes
welcome to the big brain cell juicer family uwu
We're active 24/7....maybe
you can never escape-
We have angst material here
mostly angst
you get the occasional existential crisis but eh-
it comes with getting reborn over and over
where were we anyway ajhsajajsh
Morning good
morgen guten lmao
What do we have in lore today
hue he he
Morning good

anywho- the last theory that popped up was Jouske's and it was about the King I think
getting isekai'd
ye
yes
Cause of eden-kun
Megan-dammit Eden kun, stop isekai-ing evryone
*everyone
Chesca-
Eden-kun?????
Diamond kun

I mean- we could still technically save the King if he were on another planet I think
wh-
The wording of the Eden Elder's status kind of suggests that rather than being in some impossible place the Eden Elder is just kind of- gone-
Why are yall adding japanese honorifics to sky lore stuff
Because
Isekai

Yes
the King's useless goddess companion is now Megan you can pry this off from my cold dead hands-
Yes, the useless op goddess
:DD
that's the best mom 101
Defo did not just send her kids to a world to save
Megan, stop watching anime
Remind me of that sky animation
Megan : go back to earth, you are not done yet. I want you to tell them something
Random spirit : oh what you want me to tell them?
Megan : hJöNk
There is no lore. Only
HjOnK
oh yeah- before that I think there was a theory with Rain where it kind felt like 2012 tbh
and that ain't a bad thing I'm a sucker for disaster movies
I hate that movie ngl
Apocalypse movie always give me nightmares
Anyway
Whats the theory
hhhhh
Hhhhh
hhhhh
wasn't it a mayan typo
wh-
Whoops
Moving back to Rain's theory there's also the issue of terraformation
If need be anyway- if the spirits were to migrate to another planet there's not exactly that much guarantee
plus it'd be expensive as all heck
several Edens put together kind of expensive
Tis nothing to say of the travelling and living costs alone
What if they actually create eden diamond not only as power supply but also as a way to go to other planet
But then it went blast
Yeah
Oh hello-
Oh heya Rain-
Hey
Alao i just realize the reborn portal in orbit actually have a frame???
Lmao i legit always thought it just standing there as a white candle shaped light
Without any door frame
Yeah it kinda does look like a frame shaped like a candle
Indeed... when i try to move behind it there is a barrier-
Cant see whats behind :<
Oooh it's the famous black and white oob
There's a spot where u can get past the rebirth gate,,
overrated
Ye hhh
I shall sneep now bye
Night good flos

I just realized my pfp was taken in that area.. 🧍♂️
........ 
Cha Cha real smooth 
I don't know of this oob that has been mentioned
Oh Himitsu if only u know what I'm referencing
I can link u to a tutorial vid of how to get there?
so you guys know how most diamonds open doors or make things fly
That would be nice
so uh what was the eden diamond meant to do?
Open a gatewayto Orbit
ok
It might of done multiple things but I think maybe it was a power source for almost everything needing power
Like a key of sorts
Control the Ascension beam?
like open a door to heaven (which I guess it kinda does) or make the whole mountain float?
Seems like vault had a connection to the huge power diamond and orbit too
wait do we know if the beam is going up or down?
because if it's down then they might have been trying to harvest the energy of orbit
Nah it's going up, I've been real near that beam multiple times 
dangit
it's an interesting thought tho ngl
Yes it is 
even if I kinda think that it might not have been the orbit's energy that caused it to go haywire
Omg the orbit oob looks so pretty once you get through it
Sorry off topic
I'm just sitting here in my room thinking over a comic I made then was like "wait a damn second"
then came here
wh-
man I just leave OOB to you guys I have too many terrible memories of OOBing in Wasteland akaksk
I- ok-
I barely ever oob
I oob a lot
I OOB a lot
ok
I would send the comic in but problems with spoilering and I can't fix it
help, I have half a braincell living
or keep it in the right format
Anyways, what're we talkin' 'bout?
ok
yeah I guess we're still on that
Okay but where did the diamond come from?
Maybe vault ppl made it
Probs Eden Elder shenanigans with Vault Elder's help
It's looks too unpolished and wonky to have been made by the sky people.....,, I've always thought it's a natural diamond
maybe that broken factory we see to the left of broken temple
Or maybe it's the first diamond they made?
Well, I'll give an irl example of smth that seems like they would of been impossible for people to make but were in fact made by humans
Egyptian pyramids
I imagine the diamond was made with heavy metal music being in the background and that made it go a bit
KABOOM
Kbzzkvxihigzzihxih
wh-
skyluminatti confirmed
No no,, I'm not saying that it's impossible to have been made by the people of sky but it just looks so unpolished and raw compared to the diamonds they use
I kind of think that the Eden diamond might have been fairly recent
It isn't even the same shape
Maybe it's not a diamond?
It looking unpolished might not have to do so much with ow old it is- rather than what it could have been made of
maybe the thing that caused to to blow up also messed with it's appearance?
Oh yeah maybe it blowing up kinda wrecked it
plus we see the thing spinning so it's probably not the usual kind of power diamond
Made it less hardened and symmetric
prolly
heck the diamond doesn't even look solid
I mean things blowing up can kinda make them look not the same
Ooh now that you've mentioned it..
Since the eden beam didn't appear up until shiny boi did some bippity boppity magic with the mountain
Alternatively it could have always been there
Well that was in my theory
And there might another reason why it only showed when shiny boi was shown
I didn't see the diamond I'm the prophecy stuff tho
The prophecy once foretold of skykids that never rest. They never saw the darkness that swiftly engulfed them. Don’t forget to charge your phones 
I'm at 41% I'll be good
OH SHOOT I HAVE A QUIZ DUE IN THE NEXT HOUR
i'm running on three devices i am god
So the story is to-
FJDJFJF RUN ALI
I HAVEN'T STUDIED AT ALL BYE
OH GOD
Good luck Ali!
MAY MEGAN GIFT YOU LUCK AND MAYBE LORE KNOWLEDGE
Wait Wait the eden diamond spins?
anyway- Eden diamond-
I thought it spasmed
yeah I wondering about that to
I always thought it did? Maybe it's cuz my device is too clunky
I thought it was clouds going round it
It always looked like it spun to me
and first time going in I thought it was it's way of generating power
Cuz diamonds need a light source to do literally anything
Centrifugal force or smthn like that
... Oml did they use the king/prince /eden elder to Power it 
then what is the diamond pulling fromm

It could be that it already had light and the spinning was a way to perfectly preserve and recycle the energy
but idk too much about Physics so don't quote me on that
Cuz clouds give light
Pff yeah something tells me that breaks a law of thermodynamics
oh right
probably entropy- I don't have the laws memorized anymore despite my morbid fascination with heat death
Hmmm
Yea
Entropy... Wouldn't that make the diamond slow?
Cuz energy always has to move outward until equilibrium is met?
Rkekfjfk
That's definitely not what entropy is
nevermind found the laws that's technically not the one it's violating
though a perfect system that can preserve and recycle its own energy is theoretically possible I doubt that the Eden diamond ever succeeded in being that system
well sky doesn't quite apply to our physics all the time
It might have been an attempt to reach that system
but literally it just looks like a force of uninhibited chaos
that is somehow still operating
Yeah
Though (maybe this is a game mechanic) the waves of red rocks in the point of no return are in patterns
was the king trying to make something like the bifrost from norse mythology? seems like it's similar after thinking
They have patterns yeah but I think it's a defense mechanism too on top of it being a game mech
Oh yeah
and I was leaning on it being a bridge to the afterlife too kind of
Cuz the point is over time you understand the pattern
like the beam takes you to orbit and bifrost takes you to another realm
..... Oh God where do we even end up when we die
and we have realms
Once I think Pyre's version of the TST stated that the reason the war happened was because of the Eden diamond and who it allowed access to
are the portals bifrost bridges
and though I don't completely agree with the theory it had the Eden Diamond in it so-
Yeah
It'd explain the corruption of the diamond too, but
I don't exactly belive it either...
Cuz... The king would have wanted people to try it right
plus if everyone was going to end up in Orbit anyway shouldn't they just like
So why would he be on the bottom of the Mount Eden attacking the people protecting it?
wait
Op-
like literally just wait to die
or he coulda tried it himself
Man i have many more questions now 
What if they tried fixing it cuz they assumed it failed but psych, it actually worked yall just had to not be cowards
That was part of it actually- one part of the theory stated that there was a jealousy problem where if the King could come and go from Orbit using the beam as he pleases
The other spirits wanted that kind of power too
True
But....
... Oh wait
They wouldn't know that someone had to bring them to the temple and meditate
So....
Uhm
thank you for adding onto some of the problems I had with it-
It still has merit of course- but the table for discussion is long and wide
If meditating helped bring their souls back...
Maybe they were just missing the religious aspect of life?
Well-
..... I assume their soul had to be separated to get back
... Never mind
hmm
Hmmm
Come to think of it
What would the meditating shrines be for?
Oh
.... Keeping the elders strong
Nvm
now that you mention the meditation shrines though Forest Elder's shrine is w e ir d
It's smack dab in the middle of the same machine she uses to make power diamonds
Yeahhh
Perfect score 
Now that i think of it maybe the whole reason sky fell was cus people stopped meditating?
AYYYYY CONGRATS ALI
So the elders got weakened and couldn't lead/do their normal stuff
And then society fell into chaos
maybe that's the reason that the Elders were in limbo in the first place, maybe?
Yeah, cuz... Most elders are weakened or missing something
Also,, a friend of mine asked what if the candles in the shrines were offerings?
I mean,, I haven't really thought of it like that but..
The Valley twins are the most well liked it seems 
If they'd drawn their power from the faith of their respective citizens after falling from Orbit it'd make sense that they're weakened if no one was there to offer their candles
Like...
Isle needed flame to sailor moon transform
Prairie needed flame to make a butterfly again
Forest needed a flame to fix the one diamond she couldn't make??
Valley used fire to play badminton or something
Wasteland needed flame to gain strength
And Vault needed flame for her diamond projector to work so she could gift her knowledge to someone ;u;
s a i l o r moon transform-
So... I bet if everyone stopped meditating the elders fell and then the realms fell
we gotta keep them alive
The rest of the elders: uses the flames for something practical and useful
Valley elders: looks over the flame they yeeted with a lacrosse stick in the distance
Yes, i apologize for using "sailor moon transform" unironically
freaking Valley Elders-
Pff yes
Having fun while the elders are like
"OH GOD MEGAN HELP US WE'RE ALL DYING AND THE SPIRITS STOPPED LIGHTING OUR FRIENDSHIP CANDLES"
Maybe their case is the same as GW Elder's bUT THEY'RE IN GOOD SHAPE WHEN WE MEET THEM
THEY EVEN HAD THE STRENGTH TO HAVE A MINI-ARGUMENT OVER COURTESY
WHAT IS U P WITH THOSE TWO-
OML YEAH
LIKE
WHY DID THE FIGHT OVER THE FIRE
I have so many typos oml
Was getting a flame like... Approval for them?
Did they want approval?
I guess you could make that because there's two of them they have shared strength to keep each other sane???
Yeah? They'd probably be able to-
No she can't
Like- the other Elders looked so weak on their own
anyways I got half of a exam that's tomorrow to study for so I might want to get on that
see ya guys
Yeah...
But the Valley Twins in particular are in good shape
Yeah
oh mai- good luck to you both then
Except for a missing eye and a clunky arm
I think that they are the classic celebrity type
oh right their prosthetics
just like real life-
lmaoooo
Lmao yep
Another teen's life ruined by social media smh
F
To be fair they're in the prime of their lives
Nah- Forest mama is the teen in terms of story beats
Pfff
Oh right
So valley represents adult hood before you need to pay taxes i guess
They're technically adults but like- the kind of big shot young adult that you see when they're fresh off college
Yeah
though I doubt that's a thing that we're gonna see irl the world sucks too much for that rn
anyway-
pls go to college and start an idyllic life I beg you-
Pfff
Omg
Yanno how people like- throw things when cheering
Did the audience legit throw burning candles in the coliseum-
Pfff ye
I mean they're probs immune to fire seeing they freakin play with it
CUZ WHENEVER WE GIFT CANDLES THE CANDLES ARE LIT UP
sky was a nation of deranged arsonists
SO THEY'RE THROWING B U R N I N G C A N D L E S
is- is a nation of deranged arsonist children
this time with w i n g s
Yes
Yay :DD
candle go brrrrrrr
Arson :DD

BURN BABY, BUURRNNN
Thank god for the rain in forest or we might accidentally really upset forest elder with our arson
anyway we got from the eden diamond to this what the heck were we talking about
:)
:]
:D
Anyway
hhhhh
The eden diamond
My theory is that the reason the world fell was cus ppl stopped worshipping the elders
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Except for eden... Idk what to say about that
I have a question regarding that tho- I'm all for the slow decline of the nation but when would the decline have taken place?
In my theory it's because ppl abused stuff esp the diamond production and uhh manta juicing
When would they have lost faith?
they got cancelled on twt luvs smh
And then the war broke out
I think that was last straw
If there was a war though, wouldn't they need the Elders more than ever
If so many people are at war then there's less flame gifts getting to the elders
Because the Elders aren't absent gods- they play an active role in their society
You could almost call them the pillars holding the nation up
Yes yes
Well- i think they might not have time to build shrines to worship the elders
... I mean... Maybe if it was a civil war it explains the broken temples in wasteland?
The... Two in the entranceway anyway
I'm also leaning on civil war, but I'm still iffy about any one specific Elder going head to head with one another- let alone factions among them
Yeah, cuz if that was the case we'd see more destruction in other areas...
... Well... There is that giant collapsed area past valley temple leading to Wasteland but-
It's all covered in clouds and a whale- PLUS that storm that takes you to the first area
come to think of it there's a weird amount of free ground across some realms
Isle to Prairie and Forest to Valley
The jump between Isle and Prairie convinces me more than ever that Isle was a port realm
Boats are a prominent thing in Isle specifically

Most of it probably but we could still take them into consideration when measuring distances in between realms
Yea
Like that gap between Valley and Wasteland I mentioned earlier
Mhm
Social space is the only bit of solid ground between those two realms
I mean i guess game play wise the long distance gives each kingdom a sense of individualism and cleanses your emotional state
Uhm
Idk what i said to get that message deleted
Uh anyway
But... What do they mean for us lore wise?
And why doesn't vault have a social area?
Vault really is just weird like that ajhsjahjshja
In vault people were more considerate about their level of knowledge that what they wore didn't matter? 🤔
Vault is uhh, high status thing?
Maybe nobody socialized in vault lol
Or perhaps skids just weren't meant to be there yet
Yee
yeeeeeeeeee
Only ppl Who passed sky college
Yes
The fact that it's only accessed through Wasteland's Temple kind of suggests that ye only elites really had passage
Yeah
Ah finally i caught up
Doesn't Valley have any boats lying around? 🤔 The ice rink has one
Skyvard Universityyyyyyyyyyyyy
Also uhhh
I think boats were an established form of transportation in between realms
So they travelled everywhere by 
Yeah
Just- everyone kind of used them because not all of them could fly AND transportation of goods is a thing
The passengers got to sigh not being able to slide down and thus missing the fun
lol
i want all of the spirits to compete in the sliding race now-
I-
just- all of 'em-
PFFFF
PLACE YOUR BETS ON WHO'S GONNA WIN
Sky battle royale but it's a gigantic sliding race
For sky's last day all the spirits participate in Valley
Chibi will win.. She would chibi fall and get to the end first
But aren't they already racing in that area in orbit?
you have a point there-
wh-
it's less fun when they're all dead but hey- s p a c e
Every so often you gotta stop, honk, and throw candle wax at children
aye die
throw wax at children ajshajhjshja
More like you honk the candles out of them😂
h j o n k
You commit theft
I-
does that qualify as grave robbing
aight adios see ya in extra limbo
Wha-
Cya
Oh right- you've read the docs right- the Elders being in a place beyond space and time and all that
Basically limbo
ye
Basically, they're in your username
But the King- assuming he's the Eden Elder- is just kind of in a limbo of his own
Pff yep
He gets to regret his decisions for all eternity
Ah yes
My name
yes get ready to be called on accident a lot in this chat XD
yes
Praise Megan we're saved
Omg, you're the actual limbo :0
That's classified information
I
... Gotta do algebra
:((
Oh well boys and gals, we won't be getting our answers :((

Uhhh
give me the answer or ill throw you into the krill pit
oh no
Somehow i ended up in journey gameplay videos and by brain is mixing up theories 
well if your gonna say they are related thats a no
It's one of the few things that we do know about Sky- that Journey isn't related to it, lore-wise
For copyright reasons-
yes
yea
Sad tbh
Same idea different place
anyways
slams new theory’s on table
it’s about crabs
because why not
Ok so
In ark we see a mural of the crabs
Hallo, I’m new here but I am instantly drawn to this section
I remember that mural, in the cave system to the right of the ark
OK TIME FOR DOCS
Yep
UHH
A