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potent briar
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Maaaan

livid valley
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Well you can say that only some are actually good for the butterflies

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Also

thorny folio
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pyre do u sleep

pseudo heart
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Please don't.. cold ping me... SkyDeepBow

teal orbit
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i do.... in 1 hour

livid valley
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This is ok lore chat

teal orbit
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egglet, could u give me butterfly theories?

short owl
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Two possibilities:

  1. Actual campfires
  2. The buterflies in those campfires are gone. The dak plants are not needed anymore.
livid valley
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Use The TS command somewhere in next time@potent briar

potent briar
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Kk

teal orbit
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if no.2, why r they gone?

short owl
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No 2... They probably deaded.

livid valley
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Wut about they flew away

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Possibly they woudnt have to stay in one spot forever

teal orbit
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oh no this theory is abt badly injured dying butterflies

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and how spirits tried to keep them alive

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emergency makeshift pots in a way

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OMG THATS IT

livid valley
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👁️

teal orbit
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the rocks surrounding the camp fire are the same rocks we make pots outta...

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and the pot is basically an artificial campfire

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oml this is GOLD

livid valley
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Hmm..

teal orbit
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In bad times, ancestors surrounded butterflies with rocks for more protection and preservation of light. Once the butterflies are too weak to fly at all, dark plants form around them, creating a protective container. When we show up, we give the darkness light and rejuvinate the butterflies trapped inside. so basically it works as a makeshift butterfly pot...

livid valley
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So the darkness ain't doing any harm then

teal orbit
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no they only suck out a bitta light

livid valley
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Also

teal orbit
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cuz they cant let the butterflies die

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farming.. lol

teal orbit
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enough for it to be nourishment but small enough to be sustainable

livid valley
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If they are gonna form around a dying butterfly it would be just a waste of energy is like trying to work out a spirit

thorny folio
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hmm butterfly theories? give me a bit I'm in class rn

teal orbit
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its way easier than catching fast mantas (statistically speaking, extremely low success rate)

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plus the plant has to do nothing but eat when it grows around a butterfly nest

teal orbit
thorny folio
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41 minutes to what?

teal orbit
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me sneeping

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and natgeo sky stopping for a bit

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cuz im writing it all down

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and preparing stuff

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we need more theories ppl~~~~

thorny folio
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ohhh got it

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have we talked about the blue valley butterflies yet?

teal orbit
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no not yet

livid valley
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Old beta leftover I have no theory for

thorny folio
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ok, wasn't sure what they were/ehy they were there

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If we really wanted to come up with a reason for it, subspecies SkyLOL

livid valley
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Yes

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Rarely exist

livid valley
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Only lived in cold temperatures

teal orbit
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adapted to cold temperatures good good

livid valley
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Don't produce quickly

hushed steeple
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ooooo butterfly theories? what did i miss

livid valley
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Can live way longer than normal butterflies

teal orbit
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yes like penguins

thorny folio
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interesting how you guys made a connection between campfires and butterflies

teal orbit
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ye

thorny folio
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yes penguin butterflies

livid valley
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PFT

thorny folio
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their blue tint could be trying to blend in, or a side effect of not being near warmth enough

short owl
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Butterflies are crratures of light. Perhaps ancestors had a rejuvination process involving birds

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They do catch bird light

teal orbit
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ok so here is the theory on blue butterflies...
on the mountaintops of the kingdom of sky, live an exotic subspecies of butterflies that have a blue hue for camoflage... these blue butterflies lay only a few eggs and raise their offspring with care... they typically have a longer lifespan than their counterparts in warmer climates...

short owl
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So take a pot of dying butterflies, drop in a few bird droppings, give them a few hours, and you get happy flap flaps

teal orbit
teal orbit
hushed steeple
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oop

short owl
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Like a jelly or jam, that isn't always the case

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Sometimes you eat it immediatly

hushed steeple
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so basically
dying butterflies grow grass
burn grass butterfly live

short owl
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Sometimes you seal it and put it aside for months

hushed steeple
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dunno

teal orbit
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explain plz

hushed steeple
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dark plants

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are grass

teal orbit
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it could be a good theory if u smoothe it a bit

hushed steeple
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dark plants grow around dying butterflies

teal orbit
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yes...

thorny folio
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dark plants grass? what??

teal orbit
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In bad times, ancestors surrounded butterflies with rocks for more protection and preservation of light. Once the butterflies are too weak to fly at all, dark plants form around them, creating a protective container. When we show up, we give the darkness light and rejuvenate the butterflies trapped inside. so basically it works as a makeshift butterfly pot...

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like this?@hushed steeple ?

hushed steeple
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probably

teal orbit
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we have that...

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null made it...

hushed steeple
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a bit different i guess

hushed steeple
teal orbit
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ok

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any other theories?

hushed steeple
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more like dark plants help butterflies live longer

teal orbit
teal orbit
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thats basically it

hushed steeple
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but at the same time butterflies are trapped inside the plants?

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yeah so u guys got it

teal orbit
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light creatures r a source of light. and a very easy one at that... they don't go too fast, they don't migrate, and they reproduce rapidly...
unlike other light creatures like mantas, which are relatively hard to catch...
so darkness plant genes were evolved to grow on top of butterfly nests as a way of farming.... they protect the nest because it's the key to their survival because it's their main source of food...

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like that

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any other theories? red?

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we need a bit more ...

true mason
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What if birds evolve into mantas

hushed steeple
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or the plants are parasites?
their seeds fall on butterflies

teal orbit
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next epicode@true mason
this episode is butterflies only

hushed steeple
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and they grow sucking the butterfly’s energy

true mason
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Alright

thorny folio
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I always thought the darkness plants were an unintended consequence of the darkness pollution

teal orbit
true mason
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Nice theory red

teal orbit
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we have the exact same one

hushed steeple
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oK fricc it i have smol brain

teal orbit
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in this doc

teal orbit
thorny folio
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so these plants found the nests instead of being grown to do so

teal orbit
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both happen

hushed steeple
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or the butterflies literally lives in dark plants

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maybe they are immune to darkness

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and live in plants for protection

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like clownfish

teal orbit
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immune to darkness seems like a stretch...

hushed steeple
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dunno

thorny folio
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possibly? what keeps them from getting consumed like mantas

teal orbit
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how abt we exlore the lrger eden butterflies@hushed steeple

thorny folio
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I also thought the wax we get is disintegrated light creatures

hushed steeple
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what is lrger

teal orbit
thorny folio
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they get stuck

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and always at the base

teal orbit
hushed steeple
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but the krills doesn’t attack the butterflies

short owl
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Darkness absorbs light. Do you think that includes sunlight? Wouldn't it be interesting if butterflies had a symbiotic relationship with dark plants where they fell to the ground, were consumed by dark plants, then fed off the sunlight that dark plants collected?

hushed steeple
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yeah

teal orbit
thorny folio
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well

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goldfish brain might explain that

hushed steeple
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this is not related to lore but pyre i think i need to add u on sky

short owl
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If it were just sparks, what turns sunlight into usable light? Why would plants have such wide leaves?

teal orbit
teal orbit
hushed steeple
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eh, or they can be more or less immune to darkness
they can be hurt by it but very slightly?

teal orbit
thorny folio
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I know but going off of the dark plants where mantas are stuck I was wondering why they nest in the middle of a clearing lol

teal orbit
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but the chances r super low

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almost non existant

hushed steeple
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no im not talking about krills any more

teal orbit
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oh ok

hushed steeple
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like they live in plants

teal orbit
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ye

thorny folio
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also if the plants don't have a way of trapping creatures, how did that light miner get consumed?

errant pelican
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Ya

thorny folio
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what if they're sticky?

teal orbit
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the plants that used up butterfly energy too fast died out cuz of hunger... the ones that used too less died too... the ones that use just the right amount stilll lives
natural selsction

teal orbit
errant pelican
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And how did they not have a candle? I have like a million candles

teal orbit
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not very common

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back then

thorny folio
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real life predatory plants have nectar that works as a draw and trap for their food

teal orbit
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darkness plants have speed

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like crocodiles

thorny folio
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you touch the base and boom your stuck. you have to escape by burning and the miners ran out of light

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also it looks like the dude is alive when he's stuck

hushed steeple
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plants and butterflies kinda help each other
butterflies gives energy to help the plants grow
and butterflies get protection from something even bigger like krills? crabs?
u know when the players are around each other they give each other energy, maybe butterflies are like that, that’s what allowed it to live despite the dark plants keep sucking energy from em

teal orbit
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ye

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haha cool

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look wut weve done

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but dang this is cool

thorny folio
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drink dark plant nectar and perish

hushed steeple
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id like to think only butterflies that lives in more dangerous places do that

teal orbit
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dark plants arent rlly like plants.. they dont to photosynthesis and they dont bloom

thorny folio
hushed steeple
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yeďżź

hushed steeple
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and other butterflies just kinda flies around being lame

teal orbit
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yes

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ok folks 10 mins left

hushed steeple
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oop

spring blaze
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10 minutes?

teal orbit
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last theories plz

spring blaze
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lurking noises

short owl
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If they are sticky, why don't we stick

hushed steeple
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how many butterfly theories we have now

teal orbit
teal orbit
hushed steeple
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cool

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where’s the doc

thorny folio
teal orbit
hushed steeple
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i wanna see all of em

thorny folio
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ye

teal orbit
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so far

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anyone with new theories?

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ooookay.... we r calling it a day, wrapping up episode 1 of the nat geo sky series

hushed steeple
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oop

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why do we call it nat geo sky tho

scenic hedge
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falls out of ceiling

spring blaze
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cus its nature and stuff

thorny folio
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we report on the lives of sky creatures documentary style

scenic hedge
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we have new lore bois

thorny folio
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we do? telll

hushed steeple
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yes

scenic hedge
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the new season trailer

thorny folio
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oh yes

hushed steeple
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what about it

scenic hedge
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the colosseum is a place for only skilled/champions to perform

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the entire kingdom comes to watch

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The fastest way to become a champion is to do racing

hushed steeple
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mHm

scenic hedge
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but ice skating is an option too

thorny folio
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also with the emotes we get the races have to involve some tricks

scenic hedge
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As well as other professions

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but this also means that the temples are holy

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well we already knew that

thorny folio
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but you're performance is considered a holy act

scenic hedge
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But the people have statues of The Valley elders laying around

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but you're performance is considered a holy act
@thorny folio yes!

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Flying is considered holy because the idea came from the elders/skykids

hushed steeple
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imma just watch this

scenic hedge
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so the races would be considered holy

hushed steeple
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hol up
so sky kids are god

scenic hedge
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No that’s Megan

hushed steeple
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or elders are god

scenic hedge
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Elders are closer to godhood than skykids

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but aren’t gifs

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gifs

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GODS

thorny folio
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or at least venerated as such

spring blaze
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gofs

scenic hedge
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yes

hushed steeple
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lmao

scenic hedge
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the elders are treated like gifs

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GODS

hushed steeple
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gifs

thorny folio
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the elders are goth queens

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PFFT

scenic hedge
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please autocorrect

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the idea of wings came from the elders

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because in orbit we see skykids everywhere

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and the elders lived in orbit before they fell

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but normal people can’t harness light

thorny folio
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didn't everyone?

hushed steeple
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i thought like spirits are lower ranks of god
and elders are higher ranks of godďżź

scenic hedge
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As evidenced by the fact that no spirit has any diamonds on there wings

hushed steeple
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and skids are just magic flying rock child

scenic hedge
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no the spirits are the dead citizens of the kingdom

hushed steeple
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oh understandable

scenic hedge
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everything goes to orbit when they die because it’s heaven

thorny folio
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sky kids go yeet

scenic hedge
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wait

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wait so is purgatory hell

thorny folio
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shoot I have a quiz

hushed steeple
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oop

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gl

scenic hedge
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Bye egg

thorny folio
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thank

scenic hedge
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Good luck

thorny folio
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see you guys later

hushed steeple
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cya

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so anyways

scenic hedge
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ok so the spirits could only glide

hushed steeple
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sky is hell

scenic hedge
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what

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nvm

hushed steeple
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or heaven

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whatever

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Maybe Eden can be hell but it's unlikely.

scenic hedge
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Because only light creatures can “use” light

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like use it to fly

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mantas are old

hushed steeple
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yea

teal orbit
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Imma sneep now...
Mono, great work as always lol

scenic hedge
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Thank you

hushed steeple
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bai pyre

scenic hedge
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but personally I think the mantas where too small to ride

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except for the ones in prairie

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Because prairie is just clouds

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and clouds produce light

hushed steeple
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u can still ride other mantas

scenic hedge
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not if there too small

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light creatures are just light clumped together

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while dark creatures are the same

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mantas = krill

Butterfly’s = crabs

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each light and dark creature had a equal

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All neutral creatures didn’t

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spirits are considered neutral

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And I dunno where I was going with this

hushed steeple
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are skids neutral tho

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is this chat dead

scenic hedge
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nah

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Skykids are light creatures

hushed steeple
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mhm

thorny folio
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Nvm it was a short one

hushed steeple
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but can dark creatures use darkness

thorny folio
thorny folio
hushed steeple
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i like to think they can use darkness, like how krills can fly too, but when using darkness it hurts itself

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plants can use it to drawn out light

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this is why when u burn em u have candle light

scenic hedge
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u h

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actually

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wait

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krills and mantas work the same way

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they are clumped together forms of light or dark

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so they use darkness to sustain themselves

spring blaze
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they both fly

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haha

hushed steeple
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ye lmao

scenic hedge
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but can “eat” eachothers elements

hushed steeple
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yes

scenic hedge
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skykids can burn darkness plants for wax and krills attack skykids in an attempt to eat their light

hushed steeple
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mhm

scenic hedge
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Darkness seems to be able to create a symbiotic relationship with creatures

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I think light can do the same

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the crabs used to be pests

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but only in large numbers

hushed steeple
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plants mostly just draws out light from the ground and air, they don’t need much light
crabs need a bit more light, so when they attack u u lose some power
krills needs more bc they bi g

scenic hedge
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crabs and krill don’t need light to essentially survive

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it is seemed out though

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seeked

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as seen by the whole killing all the spirits thing

hushed steeple
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like how skids don’t need wax to survive but they still get it for stuff

scenic hedge
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yes

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plus simply to hunt

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krills used to attack spirits too

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so it would make sense they attack skykids

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Even if they didn’t want light

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most creatures seem to retain normal animal instincts

hushed steeple
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mhm

scenic hedge
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anyways

willow shoal
hushed steeple
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yes?

scenic hedge
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oh hey aqua

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the krill appeared suddenly

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like extremely quickly

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we actually can see them rise out of the sand in the last desert wasteland area

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and if you get spotted there’s no time to prepare

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whitch means creatures can form extremely quickly

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uh

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Thanks for coming to my Ted talk

hushed steeple
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or maybe they didn’t just “form”

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they just simply hide in sand

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and comes out when there’s noice yum yum skids

thorny folio
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like those spiders who bury in the ground or fish who hide in the sand

scenic hedge
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huh

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Then why weren’t there any recordings

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or paintings

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we have manta and crab murals

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But no krill

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Except for in ark where they where attacked by a krill

golden bolt
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I’m new to lore discussion, is there any chance there was a civilisation before us skykids (the spirits perhaps) and there were no survivors of the Krills so they were never recorded?

scenic hedge
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the spirits are the civilization before the skykids

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skykids fell out of the sky in the spirit era

golden bolt
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O

scenic hedge
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But not in large numbers

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we only see one fall out of the sky

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and see almost no trace of other skykids

golden bolt
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I remember someone saying “wake up, child. Bring our lost stars home.”. Is it an elder or another being...

delicate agate
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Yo what if dark creatures are actually corupted by something

golden bolt
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Interesting

scenic hedge
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I remember someone saying “wake up, child. Bring our lost stars home.”. Is it an elder or another being...
@golden bolt we don’t khow

delicate agate
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So they want to bring back their light cus theyre used to be light creature??

scenic hedge
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I personally think the voice is Megan or the prophecy questgiver

pastel brookBOT
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The voice of @scenic hedge is a whisper that echoes through the ages. May we meet again in the Eye of Eden!

scenic hedge
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S H USH

golden bolt
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who’s Megan

scenic hedge
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megabird

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!lore

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!loremoff

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frick what’s the doc

delicate agate
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Im moff

golden bolt
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Sorry I’m new to lore, it seems interesting tho

weak wharf
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Are we allowed to lore about beta content or nah?

delicate agate
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Nah

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I guess?

weak wharf
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Oh a'ight then-

scenic hedge
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OH MY GOD I FOUND SOMEONE WITH THE SAME THEORY AS ME

delicate agate
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What

scenic hedge
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HAHA IM SO HAPPY

golden bolt
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:00000

delicate agate
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Ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

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That makes sence to me

scenic hedge
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anyways

golden bolt
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Could the king be Eden elder..

scenic hedge
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The king is the Eden elder

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plus the corrupted king concept art

golden bolt
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His darkness is stored ||in the diamond|| perhaps

scenic hedge
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nah

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hold on

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WHEE IS THE LORE DOC

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I can’t find it

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So I’ll explain it

golden bolt
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Oo

scenic hedge
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the power diamonds are wood and dark shoved together

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or any other organic material

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or possibly light

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but they basically create power

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They are everywhere

golden bolt
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Who uses the power

scenic hedge
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no

pearl verge
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Fun fact - children of the light are tiny, because on one of the pipes in the final golden wasteland chapter there is duct tape going around it

scenic hedge
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I mean most skykids are half the hight of grown adults

pearl verge
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So you want to tell me

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They duct taped pipes those are 2-3 times larger

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Than them

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?

scenic hedge
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??????????????

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bro

pearl verge
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Im a confusing person

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I know

scenic hedge
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That’s not really a good thing

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skykids are half the height of spirits

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who are confirmed to be adults

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so they are short

pearl verge
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Idk

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I will be back in 15-30 mins

scenic hedge
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Kay

short owl
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What if krill were born in pipes and the fact they are so round is because they were squished into that shape

scenic hedge
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What if krill were born in pipes and the fact they are so round is because they were squished into that shape
@short owl ...

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.

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a

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I-

short owl
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I broke people. Whoops

hushed steeple
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cursed theorystickerCold

sacred rapids
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I have my own krill theory that includes those pipes if you need to read it

short owl
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Sure

sacred rapids
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so the pipes are where the sludge of the light creatures after being turned into power diamonds since bad feeling like hate and vengeance don't get used for the diamonds. so all this bad sludge started to accumulate and started to split the pipes up, collecting shrapnel as they bursted. then the sludge started to pool into the water of wasteland and started binding with small creatures in that water, krill. as the sludge kept building and building then made the krill what they are today, giant dark creatures made out of the hate of the light creatures used for the diamonds
explaines
-keeps organic (ish)
-has explanation for clanking sounds
-why they hate the ancestors
-shape
doesn't explain
-why they hate us
-target/attack sound
-eye lights

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glad I have this in a easy access place

short owl
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Maybe they hate us because we are too much like power diamonds

thorny folio
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well they need light creatures to consume to survive, and they see our light and think we're a manta or smth

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except we're just hosts for it and they can't eat us, so the krill go >: ()

short owl
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And the sound they make could be the cumulative angry screaming of all the animals whos dark combined to make them

thorny folio
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the horrible screeching noise? that tracks

sacred rapids
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in a constant quest to regain thier own lost light they attack the skykids to try and gain theres

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that sound about what your thinking egglet?

pearl verge
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A child of the light near a duct taped pipe

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So how big are we

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Exactly

sacred rapids
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roughly similar size to emperor penguins

pearl verge
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How do you know

sacred rapids
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measuring with office's computers

thorny folio
pearl verge
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Uh

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But why would anyone duct tape a pipe that is tue size of 2 emperor penguins

thorny folio
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duct tape?

pearl verge
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I mean its blue

sacred rapids
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I don't think the sky kingdom has duct tape

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that's just the color of the metal?

pearl verge
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Why are all the pipes grey then

sacred rapids
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texture bugs?

pearl verge
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And this one would specifically be blue

thorny folio
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well the pipes are made of stone

pearl verge
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This isnt a bug

thorny folio
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I thought they were rollers for some kind of conveyor belt

pearl verge
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I think its duct tape cuz

thorny folio
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they look almost like ball berings

pearl verge
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That would explain how krills got out of them pipes

sacred rapids
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if they where made in the pipes in the first place

pearl verge
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I dunno

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I play this game for a week

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And noticed the detail

short owl
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There are a few places where graphic bugs cause a blue striped pattern

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Tgc is aware of them

hushed steeple
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So. Im sure this has been pointed out 100 million times but.

pearl verge
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What?

thorny folio
sacred rapids
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actually I don't think it has kam

wet sinew
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Is that hair?

pearl verge
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Could anyone

sacred rapids
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nope megan concept

pearl verge
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Summarize the lore that is 100% correct

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In like a small text

sacred rapids
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not at all

pearl verge
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Cuz I jave no idea

thorny folio
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megan = ramen noodles

pearl verge
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I have no idea about this games lore

thorny folio
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theres a link to the google docs let me find it

hushed steeple
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Megan only has 8 flaps haha

thorny folio
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there isn't much of it lol

sacred rapids
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yo bricky we got a lore moff

pearl verge
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Dont look at mine

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Wing span

sacred rapids
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thought that would get bricky but maybe not

thorny folio
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this is confimed lore

wet sinew
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Thank you :)

thorny folio
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but let me find the new moth lore doc that has more on it

sacred rapids
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wait I think I have it somewhere

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found it

wet sinew
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Okay

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Okay

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After reading both

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Do we know if the crabs have gender?

sacred rapids
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no idea

wet sinew
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Cool cool

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I'll look into that then

sacred rapids
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all crabs look the same except for color and maybe some darkdust on them

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and all have very similar tendencies

wet sinew
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Do they have a seam on their underside?

sacred rapids
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no just "rock"

wet sinew
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Ok

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Hmm

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So that suggests that the crabs dont reproduce

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Or atleast not In the way crabs do

sacred rapids
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we're trying to have a kids game here

wet sinew
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Oh sorry

willow shoal
wet sinew
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Yeah sorry

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I'll stop

sacred rapids
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but something about crabs I think you should know is the crabs at sanctuary will help other crabs get flipped back over

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it's actually pretty cute to watchpAww

wet sinew
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Okay

willow shoal
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Crabs in Oasis too

sacred rapids
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what is oasis?

willow shoal
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ohhh maybe I should say “Next to the Broken Temple “

sacred rapids
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ohh

willow shoal
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Understand?

sacred rapids
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yeah

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I was thinking "maybe that's just the name for sanctuary in a different language is something"

willow shoal
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It’s called oasis in game

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Just an area of GW

sacred rapids
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I'll try to remember that

short owl
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Interesting that sanc crabs are more effective and agressive than gw crabs

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Perhaps sanc crabs are healthier?

sacred rapids
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maybe the area has some effect on the crabs

gusty cape
short owl
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Hmm... So a mixed thought here - crabs in arc got cranky after water was taken. Crabs in oasis get cranky unless they are island crabs sitting in the sun.

What if water naturally collects light (including sunlight), which is how clouds charge us, and when the caves dried out (the ship suggests the water level used to be higher), sanc crabs lost their source of light

GW crabs have been hungry longer and are thus weaker, but sanc crabs are newly cranky so they are more friendly to eachother and have more energy for aggression

cobalt rover
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(sorry, this is such a cool thought! What is GW an abbreviation of?)

novel marten
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GW = Golden Wasteland stickerHeart

cobalt rover
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Cool thanks!

hushed steeple
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Now I feel bad for crabbos and love them more

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Poor lil dudes

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I don't blame them for being annoying jxbdihihd

lost widget
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I'm late to this discussion, but I like Null's theory on the crabs

hushed steeple
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Me too

rustic nymph
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hmmm hello, can someone tell me if the theory of each realm being a phase of life is canon?

hushed steeple
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Idk if it's canon but it's rather a very common theory

rustic nymph
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Someone told me it was Canon, and it was said on a live, but I didn't see anything about it in the doc here

hushed steeple
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I’ve seen it written on quite a few bits of early concept art and stuff

rustic nymph
short owl
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It's cannon enough for The Office

hushed steeple
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True

short owl
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But there isn't a whole lot of non-symbolic tie in

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Plenty of symbolic tho

rustic nymph
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I followed the posts about the creations and on social media this theory wasn’t even

hushed steeple
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Tbh TGC'S games are often compared to the stages of life

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Specially journey

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But I just don't want to say whether it's canon or not cuz I don't know enough about the theory

short owl
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Tgc put the stages of life associated with each realm on a poster in the office

rustic nymph
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Although they have been placed in the office,in the social media this theory wasn't even apears

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I think if the only place that’s mentioned is in the office, then it’s probably not Canon. If it were, they would have talked about it in the realms creations

hushed steeple
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I do think orbit and Eden support the life stages theory big time though since Eden can easily be seen as the process of dying, and orbit can be compared to heaven or an afterlife

rustic nymph
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yeah,i kwow,i heard it a lot of time

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But apparently it’s a popular symbology in fans, but not related to lore so far

hushed steeple
rustic nymph
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Well, they mentioned the the phases of the day in the creation posts on social networks, but nothing about phases of life

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I even remember that the posts were made before the office changes, and there were a lot of people asking about the theory of phases in coments

tall flume
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I’ve recently heard about the “King”, the Eden Elder, who isn’t in game but there’s statues of him throughout. Can someone tell me more about this? I didn’t even know he existed until a few days ago. Is he good? Is he bad? Is he on the same side as the elders, is he the cause of destruction? And what actually hapoened to Eden...? The name implies a beautiful, life-filled paradise.

hushed steeple
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We don't know much about him other than him and the prince may or may not be the same person, and that they've likely made a huge mistake that caused corruption.

tall flume
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Oof... oh wait yeah i heard of a prince too one time, that adds to my comfusion...

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confusion*

sacred rapids
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well they exist just we just don't get to see them unfortunately but both still "exist"

hushed steeple
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Yeah

sacred rapids
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but you come up with whatever you think they acted like or what happened to them!

lost wing
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What’s the like, general area that sky takes place in called?

thin dirge
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Sky...?

lost wing
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👁️👄👁️

thin dirge
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The fallen Kingdom is literally called "The Kingdom of Sky"

lost wing
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Huh

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Ty

thin dirge
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I think it was called like that?

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But I don't remember, so I could be wrong

spring blaze
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yeah its the kingdom of sky

livid valley
teal orbit
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Bricky calls it "horizon" and the ancestors "cloud ppl", @lost wing

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@hushed steeple sky devs made sky's realms based on life stages and times of days
And its confirmed
But thats meta and not in game lore

short owl
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I call it Horizon

livid valley
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Nice

teal orbit
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That could have been gold for nat geo sky but the forest templ has an open roof with light but the crabs r still aggressive and sunlight and sparks are very different...@short owl

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Oop srry so much for the ping

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I was talking abt the xrab theory u made up there

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Abt no sunlight makes crabs mad

livid valley
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;-;

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Pyre you gotta stop the habit of pinging people

pseudo heart
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Henlo

short owl
pseudo heart
short owl
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Hello Ali

pseudo heart
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What we talkin bout today

livid valley
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I have no idea

pseudo heart
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....SkyBoogie

short owl
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Idk. I just hopped on for a moment inbetween other stuffs

willow shoal
livid valley
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Birds huy

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What's yours

ember temple
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So I just relived the "Come here" spirit memory and...the skykid (?) that they found in the sand...I need to know more about them
Did the spirits rescue them? What'd that kid turn into in the end?

teal orbit
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The prince

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Th3n the king

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But that's just a theory

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A sky theory

livid valley
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Bru

teal orbit
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Ok now... give me all your bird theories plz

livid valley
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No u first

teal orbit
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Ok here goes

pseudo heart
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Could it be—

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The village in valley—

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Was where the rhythm spirits were from?

teal orbit
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There r 2 types of birds, lets just call them pidgeons and swallows for now
Lets make a better name for them later...
Pidgeons generally live on the ground and dont migrate... they are capable of landing on the ground and are qble to digest orgqnic material...
Swallows never land. They are born flying and die flying... their bodies like other light creatures r self sufficient and they grow their own food inside their bodies

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Ali, plz make bird theories too...

pseudo heart
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Sky wildlife kinda flies over my head,,, sorry pyre SkyBow

teal orbit
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Oh.

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Dreoamow?

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U got any theories?

livid valley
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Question

teal orbit
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Ye?

cursive laurel
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Hello what we talking about

teal orbit
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Pineapple sugar? U have any birb theories?

livid valley
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How did swallows reproduce to maintain their existence

teal orbit
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They r like swarms of fish lol

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And also, they r made by clouds... sooo yea

hushed steeple
teal orbit
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I told yal... i dont keep proff with me...lol

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I remember wuts canon tho

hushed steeple
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Does anyone have proof that the life stages theory is canon?

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If so ping me

teal orbit
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Its meta tho

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So its not lore

livid valley
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Bruh

pseudo heart
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You can see it in the wall of the office in the dining area

teal orbit
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Ye but office isnt lore

pseudo heart
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I'm not talking about office itself

hushed steeple
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I was thinking it was meta but people made it seem like it was merely a theory earlier khsohsihd

teal orbit
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Seriously anyone got more bird theories?

hushed steeple
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So I was confused and didn't want to assume anything

short owl
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right

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I forgot about that particular banned word

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anyway.... let me rewrite that

teal orbit
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Ben we rlly need bird theories rn, could u think of sum?

short owl
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Birds aren't particularly active in the ecosystem. Nothing eats them, and they don't stay to reproduce. Really they just pass through the world in a loop from the megabird to the planet and back to the megabird

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They do, however, consume small plants and leave behind orbs of light

teal orbit
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Huh...

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Orbs?

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U mean sparks?

short owl
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These orbs are really appreciated by the landlocked creatures, since they're a primary means for light to be returned to the planet

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What I mean, I cannnot say

teal orbit
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Idk ant orbs

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*any

short owl
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It's in one of the prarie memories

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the light catures

sacred rapids
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like the ones from the laugh spirit cutseen?

teal orbit
#

Tell me plz...

short owl
teal orbit
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How does it go?

short owl
#

tho maybe it's birdcall?

teal orbit
#

How does ut go?

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Jouske... we need more bird theories...

sacred rapids
#

no it's definitely the laugh one

teal orbit
#

How does it go?

short owl
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Jouske, copy before hitting enter

teal orbit
#

Wut do the birds do...

short owl
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Pyre

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it may be easier just to watch the thing

sacred rapids
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so a "light catcher" goes to try to collect a floating white orb and falls
the spirit we get the emote from laughs at them for falling

teal orbit
#

I cant go into sky rn...

short owl
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The floating white orbs are supposed to have come from the birbs

teal orbit
#

So its as large as the birds?

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Or smaller?

sacred rapids
#

I think a little larger than birds actually

teal orbit
#

Huh...

sacred rapids
#

but we don't get to see birds in the cutseen so idk

livid valley
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Idk

teal orbit
#

Ok then how abt this... when swallows make excess light, it all comes together bbecause of they're

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Formation when they fly

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And thats the huge orb of light

short owl
#

When did they become swallows

sacred rapids
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maybe the light just kinda snowballs together into something bigger

teal orbit
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Yes yes

short owl
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Maybe when the light leaves the birb, it expands

teal orbit
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Long ago null, long ago

short owl
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kind of like how big fire make small butterfly

teal orbit
#

I dont think light would expand on their own...

short owl
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It might if it were previously compacted

teal orbit
#

Oh

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Why would it be compacted?

short owl
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Cause compacting light is part of the process of turning light into life?

teal orbit
#

Life?

short owl
#

Yeah

teal orbit
#

Huh...

short owl
#

Like how Ayin turned a flame into a butterfly

sacred rapids
#

anyways I got some world building to do for something see y'allSkyWave SkyWave

short owl
#

Big flame, small butterfly

teal orbit
#

Oh no no null

short owl
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Now imagine you had better power over it (cause you're the megabird)

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You could make a bigger, yet more compact light creature

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like a bird

teal orbit
#

Ayin was just hatching the Butterfly with high temperatures.... all creatures r born naturally...

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Im srry but like... yea...

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Not artificially made by an elder...

short owl
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But you still have big flame with lil butterfly

livid valley
#

So lil butterfly needs alot of power eh

short owl
#

Ye

teal orbit
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Like dragon eggs lol

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Your theory abt how excess light forms orbs and it rains down on the ground to be like fertilizers or food has been added

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Dreomow?

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Any other theories?

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Oh an null your theory abt how birds r too high up for darkness plants and too small for krill
So they rarely get hunted has also been added

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Ok more of my theories then...

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The forest temple was built in the Birds migration path and thats how they churned out diamonds so fast - a bird conveyer belt

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Ok folks imma take a 45 min break from this chat like i always do on Saturdays

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SO IF U HAVE A BIRD THEORY YOU WPULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE DOC, PLZ PING ME

brittle gust
#

Hiii its been a while since i visited this channel

queen locust
#

Lore chat nseeping

dreamy solstice
#

does anyone have any theory about the monster in forest? the one where when we go to eden we see them too- idk their name arghhh stickerGloomy

queen locust
#

Tis called a whale and we can see it on the way from Valley to Wasteland as well

dreamy solstice
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oh yeahh

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is the one in sanctuary a whale too?

queen locust
#

Nope- the one in Sanctuary is called an Elder Manta

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A Whale is a lot chunkier than an Elder Manta lmao

dreamy solstice
#

chonky

queen locust
#

As for theories I'm not really familiar with much? Other than the Whale not being a light creature at least

pseudo heart
brittle gust
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Whale isnt a light creature?

livid valley
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No

brittle gust
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Why?

thin dirge
#

I believe it is tho

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Its very similar to the Elder Manta.
Its just very old and ancient

brittle gust
#

It is old and ancient

thin dirge
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Yeah

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Its pretty much the same as the Elder Creature in the concepts

brittle gust
#

Plus whale can be seen crossing to orbit

livid valley
#

That dosent mean it's a light creature

brittle gust
#

Then if a non light creature can cross to orbit how come krills can't?

stark marten
#

The whale may not be a light creature, but that wouldn't necessarily make it a dark creature either. I think a lot of people see it as being more of a neutral creature, since it never really interacts with us directly, it's just kind of there

livid valley
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Yes

brittle gust
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They might be hybrid like sky kids

livid valley
#

Imo skids are sentient

brittle gust
#

Its been a while since i've read skids SkyLOL

livid valley
#

Skids are sentient because it can be hit by a giant creature charging at them with the heavy weight and still survive without a budge,fell slowly??? Even if they fell really fast I bet they can still feel nothing going to valleys water without feeling anything the outer layer must be clay which protects the hollow area of the body which contains the soul

brittle gust
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Imo whales are closely to hybrid since if you get close to the whale that is crossing to orbit, the whale can damage you

queen locust
#

Not sure if that can explain their sentience, but their interactions with the Elders do suggest that they have subtle forms of communication

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Their imperviousness to pain isn't really indicative of sentience

livid valley
#

Their really fast movement and tough skin damaged you they are neutral creatures to me

thin dirge
#

Tho, Whales are big and ancient compared to us Skids. Maybe we lose light the same way we lose light when we smack into stuff sometimes-

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I mean, the way we lose light to touching the Whales is similar to how we lose light when we smack into stuff like the moths we are SkyLOL

livid valley
#

Hmm make sense

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Brutal

thin dirge
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Yeah, the Whale is MOVING too. Imagine flying into a big creature that's also moving fast

lost wing
#

Can someone explain the whole diamond theory? I heard dead light creatures have a role in it, and I’m confused 😬

livid valley
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*crushed light creatures

lost wing
#

Nasty

livid valley
#

Aye

thin dirge
#

Like, smacking into a solid object at fast speed is one thing. But smacking into one thats moving at fast speed is a entirely different thing
Thats like running into a moving train-

queen locust
#

I hear it's time to talk about the juicer-

livid valley
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Yes

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Juice time

thin dirge
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So uhhh... Just dont fly into Whales pls

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Ok

lost wing
#

Why are crushed light creatures used to power the diamonds, for example?

queen locust
lost wing
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Huh

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Wait

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So like

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Are the creatures of light brought in alive..?

livid valley
#

Yes

queen locust
#

yep- likely-

lost wing
#

Would they crush sky kids as well? (Ik prob not)

thin dirge
#

I mean...

lost wing
#

O-O

queen locust
#

considering skids likely didn't exist during that time it's kind of unlikely-

thin dirge
#

I dont think so considering the Prince is one...

livid valley
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We're not totally made of light like the light creatures but they could crush our shells and take the light

lost wing
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Good XD

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Who’s the prince..?

queen locust
#

also would you really be willing to crush something that looks like a CHILD

livid valley
#

Yes

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It's a rock

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Walking

lost wing
#

Good point

livid valley
#

Why not

queen locust
#

oh mai- are you new to the channel Noodles?

lost wing
#

Wait what

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Yes 😦

livid valley
#
queen locust
#

d a n g i t I was too slow-

lost wing
#

Ty

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Ima go read dat

livid valley
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:)

thin dirge
#

L O R E M O F F

lost wing
#

See y’all

queen locust
#

anywho- those docs are for you- we recommend starting with the Lore Moff Doc

teal orbit
#

Hey folks im bacc

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The prince isnt a skid...

thin dirge
#

Uhhh

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I believe they are due to the new spirit memories

queen locust
#

welcome to the big brain cell juicer family lmao

teal orbit
#

The prince is maybe an elder its just a theory

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But definitely not a skif

thin dirge
#

The new spirit memories definitely show a skid

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It has the same model as our skid

teal orbit
#

Nah thats the prince

queen locust
#

I'm- if we're all agreeing that that's the Prince-

thin dirge
#

Yeah, the Prince, which is a skid

queen locust
#

then why don't you think that the thing that fell that looks like a skid is a skid

thin dirge
#

It has the exact same model as the skid model-

teal orbit
#

The prince made us in his image like god in the bible but according to the opening cutscene skids were made a long time after the fall of the kingdom

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So yea...

queen locust
#

'in his image'

teal orbit
#

Srry @thin dirge

queen locust
#

suggests exactly that

teal orbit
#

Ye

queen locust
#

that the Prince was a s k i d

teal orbit
#

Nah

thin dirge
#

Still implies Prince was a skid

teal orbit
#

Is god a human?

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Nah

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I think...

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We just look the same

thin dirge
#

The humans are Ancestors in Sky...

teal orbit
#

No...like...

thin dirge
#

Prince is more like "Jesus" in the story

queen locust
#

i don't know if that allegory even applies here

teal orbit
#

Just cuz they look the same doesnt mean they ARE the same...

thin dirge
#

Uh, Prince even flies like a skid from the concepts-

queen locust
#

okay- let's back up a little- I sense discrepancy-

teal orbit
#

Im just saying, the prince prob made us to LOOK like him... but skids didnt exist at the time

queen locust
#

So- is the Prince in your eyes, a sort of proto-skid

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instead of an ACTUAL skid

willow shoal
queen locust
#

and when I say actual skid I mean the ones like us

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so when you say the Prince ISN'T a skid- he isn't exactly like a skid, is that what you meant Pyre?

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I think so but stretching it into an analogy between making humans in the image of god is a stretch

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Considering the Prince doesn't even hold sovereign over the skids

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It's marginal even if we go by the Prince=Skids theory

thin dirge
#

We could also be the Prince, kinda like a 2nd Coming

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If we are indeed using religion as an allegory to this

queen locust
#

Most likely? if whoever made them weren't like- godly-

lethal stump
#

greetings lore chat, i see we’re talking about the prince pPopcorn

queen locust
#

Heya Brick

lost wing
#

I read the thingys! Pretty cool :>

thin dirge
#

I'm probably still gonna keep my hcs about the Prince

lethal stump
#

well, i’m still thinking of my theory

thin dirge
#

Besides, this chat aint for debates about what's right or wrong

lethal stump
#

however i did have some ideas along the line of that today

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i came up with a reasoning for the 63 fallen in eden

lost wing
#

What happened to the king and prince? Where are they now? Dead??

thin dirge
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We dont know

queen locust
#

ah yes- the weirdly specific number of 63-

thin dirge
#

That's the thing

lost wing
#

Oh ;-;

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Who’s Brick?

thin dirge
#

They're stated to be around, but we dont know where or how

lethal stump
#

I’m brick

queen locust
#

debates are half of like what we do here-

lost wing
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Hello Brick

lethal stump
#

anyways, would y’all like to hear my idea pEyes

lost wing
#

Ye

teal orbit
#

I suggest u watch the opening cutscene again...@thin dirge ... u will see that the elders fall, then the realms r made, then they collapse AND THEN the first skids r seen to be made...
Im srry but your theory doesnt make a lotta sense...
Also i gtg imma be back in 45 mins bye~~~

thin dirge
#

True, but it can sometimes turn a little too much.

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That's what I was worried abiut

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I've seen it a few times here, and I don't like seeing it

lost wing
#

Why can we see some spirits but not others?

thin dirge
#

Also, there's a chance the intro actually isn't in the order we thought it was

queen locust
#

I mean- I guess so long as none of us are going forth hurling insults into each other I guess we're in the clear? Then again I sense a lot of passive-aggressiveness sometimes

thin dirge
#

I mentiined it here a few times

queen locust
#

we can't even trust the intro ajsajhjsh

lost wing
#

Maybe the king and prince went into hiding after the collapse of the kingdom because they were worried that the public would blame them and like, kill em or something?

thin dirge
lethal stump
#

so
im going to preface this with i believe the prince aged into the king, and as he age he slowly corrupted
I believe he constructed the 63 eden children out of clay, and then sacrificed each bit of his remaining light to give them light. he knew he was going to die, and he wanted there to be someone around after him to keep things running
so, when the eden diamond exploded, the 63 children died trying to fix it, and the king died as well
from there i like to imagine Megabird giving thĂŠ CoL/Prince/King a second chance, which is why today we sacrifice our Light to save the fallen
but eh, doesn’t have much basis, just a fun idea i thought of

lost wing
#

O okie

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I’m a lore moff ;-;

lethal stump
lost wing
#

Plz help meh

livid valley
#

If prince can age this is the most advanced skid?

lost wing
#

I’ve read it (Tysm)

queen locust
#

no moff left behind- the big brain juicer family will take care of you don't worry Noodles

lost wing
#

Ty :))

lethal stump
lost wing
#

Wack

livid valley
#

Oooo

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Interesting

lost wing
#

So is the megabird the god of sky?

livid valley
#

Ye

lethal stump
#

basically yes

queen locust
#

But- if he were to age, wouldn't that kind of go against an Elder's ageless nature?

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wait nvm

lost wing
#

Cool

livid valley
#

What if the aging stop at a very specific point?

lost wing
#

Huh

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Neato

lethal stump
#

according to the concepts, megabird is a being that is connected to all light

lost wing
#

Ooo

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So like

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Shiny boi

thin dirge
#

My theory was that something bad happened to the Prince, possibly falling into the same limbo we found ourselves in when we die in Eden.
Prince was too important, being the incarnation and literal child of Megan/the Light, and was necessary to trigger Ascencion. Isle Elder could do that too, but he was damaged and also stuck in limbo.
That's where the 63 statues came from. Descendants that sacrificed themselves to save the Prince, whuch worked. That's why there's nothing left to save.
Prince was already saved

queen locust
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Shinybois are described as being the imprints of the Child of Light

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whether Child is singular or plural is weirdly used interchangeably

lost wing
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Oooo

queen locust
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And who exactly shinyboi is- we have no exact clue-

lost wing
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Is it confirmed that Skids are light? If no, I have a small theory.

lethal stump
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although it is mentioned we have a  relationship  with the child of light as a character

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skykids are debated to be pure light or not

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many people see them as hybrids of light and dark

thin dirge
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Ooh, sure!

queen locust
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quick question and idk if this has been answered before but seriously why 63

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That's a weirdly specific number

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for the number of Fallen we see

thin dirge
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Credit me tho-

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Also, yall noticed that 63 is enough for 7 wedges..?

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The same amount of wedges everytime we ascend...

lost wing
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This is guna sound really random bc I have like no evidence, but what if sky kids are not light, but just neutral dark? The starts we take seem to die in darkness (losing our winged light) but we seem to do alright in it..

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Stars not starts*

thin dirge
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Well, concepts does have Descendants being dark and light hybrids

queen locust
thin dirge
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I believe the real descendants are the statues in Eden tho

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I think so?

queen locust
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Here's one of 'em

lost wing
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Ooo

queen locust
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hAIRY MEGAN ASJAKSJAJK

lost wing
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Wait..

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So what are we? (Skids, I mean.)

thin dirge
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Well, depends in interpretation...

queen locust
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Keep in mind, those are from concepts, so exactly how much of it is carried over is debatable

thin dirge
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Most people believe we're descendants

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I believed were the Prince

lost wing
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?

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confused moff noises

thin dirge
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But I think it mostly boils down to interpretation?

queen locust
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We are also outright referred to as a new generation

thin dirge
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I believed the statues in Eden were descendants tho

lost wing
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Huh

thin dirge
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True

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But the Prince could also be considered a new gen, soooo....

queen locust
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Technically he was new gen when he fell-

thin dirge
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Yeah

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👁️👄👁️

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What even are we..

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Like other than light and dark

queen locust
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welcome to questioning what the actual heck are skids

lost wing
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What species is an Skid..

queen locust
lost wing
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We got parents, or do we just like poof out of the light??

queen locust
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Skids cannot grow up to be Elders

lost wing
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intense breathing

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I-

queen locust
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There's some other theories I see sometimes pop up- skids being perfect power diamonds,

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or golems

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tiny golems with a taste for anarchy

lost wing
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What

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Is

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A

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Golem

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;-;

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.

queen locust
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Basically anthropomorphic beings made from any inanimate matter

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Like stones and clay

lost wing
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..

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How??

queen locust
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You mentioned earlier that you think we're kind of a neutral dark presence

lost wing
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cries like a confused moff

queen locust
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That's kind of how it's split, according to some theories

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A light soul, inside a dark vessel

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Or smthn along those lines

lost wing
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I thought the stars like, fell or something and our job was to get em back?

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Are we even sentient? Do we think???

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Ye

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Are we sentient?

queen locust
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Our sentience isn't that questionable- if you look at our interactions with the Elders

thin dirge
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Pretty sure, yeah

lost wing
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Ye

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Good point

thin dirge
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Our skid appears to feel emotion, especially in Eden...

queen locust
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They know signals like nodding and asking Wasteland Elder not to push himself- non-verbally, but still

thin dirge
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Oh gosh, the thought of it makes me feel depressed for our skid in Eden...

lost wing
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Ye 😦

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Sad bois

sinful anvil
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and also if u sit long enough the skykid starts to stretch or rub their head

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they have reflexes

queen locust
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And can feel visible pain- refer to Eden-

lost wing
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Ye

queen locust
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When taking out winged lights to give to the Fallen, they flinch

thin dirge
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If you have different stance on for Eden, youll notice after passing the first area of Eden, your skid is hunched down a little, and you can't change the stance

lost wing
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Sad :((