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pyre do u sleep
Please don't.. cold ping me... 
i do.... in 1 hour
This is ok lore chat
egglet, could u give me butterfly theories?
Two possibilities:
- Actual campfires
- The buterflies in those campfires are gone. The dak plants are not needed anymore.
Use The TS command somewhere in next time@potent briar
Kk
lets.. go with no.1?
wut dya think
if no.2, why r they gone?
No 2... They probably deaded.
oh no this theory is abt badly injured dying butterflies
and how spirits tried to keep them alive
emergency makeshift pots in a way
OMG THATS IT
đď¸
the rocks surrounding the camp fire are the same rocks we make pots outta...
and the pot is basically an artificial campfire
oml this is GOLD
Hmm..
In bad times, ancestors surrounded butterflies with rocks for more protection and preservation of light. Once the butterflies are too weak to fly at all, dark plants form around them, creating a protective container. When we show up, we give the darkness light and rejuvinate the butterflies trapped inside. so basically it works as a makeshift butterfly pot...
So the darkness ain't doing any harm then
no they only suck out a bitta light
Also
so a bit of harm
enough for it to be nourishment but small enough to be sustainable
If they are gonna form around a dying butterfly it would be just a waste of energy is like trying to work out a spirit
hmm butterfly theories? give me a bit I'm in class rn
its way easier than catching fast mantas (statistically speaking, extremely low success rate)
plus the plant has to do nothing but eat when it grows around a butterfly nest
ok we have 41 mins rn take your time
41 minutes to what?
me sneeping
and natgeo sky stopping for a bit
cuz im writing it all down
and preparing stuff
we need more theories ppl~~~~
no not yet
Old beta leftover I have no theory for
ok, wasn't sure what they were/ehy they were there
If we really wanted to come up with a reason for it, subspecies 
yes thats good
Only lived in cold temperatures
adapted to cold temperatures good good
Don't produce quickly
ooooo butterfly theories? what did i miss
Can live way longer than normal butterflies
yes like penguins
interesting how you guys made a connection between campfires and butterflies
ye
yes penguin butterflies
PFT
their blue tint could be trying to blend in, or a side effect of not being near warmth enough
Butterflies are crratures of light. Perhaps ancestors had a rejuvination process involving birds
They do catch bird light
ok so here is the theory on blue butterflies...
on the mountaintops of the kingdom of sky, live an exotic subspecies of butterflies that have a blue hue for camoflage... these blue butterflies lay only a few eggs and raise their offspring with care... they typically have a longer lifespan than their counterparts in warmer climates...
So take a pot of dying butterflies, drop in a few bird droppings, give them a few hours, and you get happy flap flaps
rn we r in butterfly session.. birds r the next episode
nah they r permenantly sealed until further notice
oop
so basically
dying butterflies grow grass
burn grass butterfly live
Sometimes you seal it and put it aside for months
what?
dunno
explain plz
it could be a good theory if u smoothe it a bit
dark plants grow around dying butterflies
yes...
dark plants grass? what??
In bad times, ancestors surrounded butterflies with rocks for more protection and preservation of light. Once the butterflies are too weak to fly at all, dark plants form around them, creating a protective container. When we show up, we give the darkness light and rejuvenate the butterflies trapped inside. so basically it works as a makeshift butterfly pot...
like this?@hushed steeple ?
probably
a bit different i guess
didnât read back
more like dark plants help butterflies live longer
well, they did and then we changed it a bit to fit the general idea
exactly
thats basically it
but at the same time butterflies are trapped inside the plants?
yeah so u guys got it
light creatures r a source of light. and a very easy one at that... they don't go too fast, they don't migrate, and they reproduce rapidly...
unlike other light creatures like mantas, which are relatively hard to catch...
so darkness plant genes were evolved to grow on top of butterfly nests as a way of farming.... they protect the nest because it's the key to their survival because it's their main source of food...
like that
any other theories? red?
we need a bit more ...
What if birds evolve into mantas
or the plants are parasites?
their seeds fall on butterflies
next epicode@true mason
this episode is butterflies only
and they grow sucking the butterflyâs energy
Alright
I always thought the darkness plants were an unintended consequence of the darkness pollution
yes.... farming...
Nice theory red
we have the exact same one
oK fricc it i have smol brain
in this doc
nonono its a golden theory.. one of the best we got... u were just a bit late to the party
so these plants found the nests instead of being grown to do so
both happen
or the butterflies literally lives in dark plants
maybe they are immune to darkness
and live in plants for protection
like clownfish
immune to darkness seems like a stretch...
dunno
possibly? what keeps them from getting consumed like mantas
how abt we exlore the lrger eden butterflies@hushed steeple
I also thought the wax we get is disintegrated light creatures
what is lrger
its farming.... plus.. mantas arent consmed either
in a way
srry.... larger
but the krills doesnât attack the butterflies
Darkness absorbs light. Do you think that includes sunlight? Wouldn't it be interesting if butterflies had a symbiotic relationship with dark plants where they fell to the ground, were consumed by dark plants, then fed off the sunlight that dark plants collected?
yeah
ye... the darkness bloom in their nesting space andmantas have goldfish brain capacity lol
prob not... just sparks
why do they nest in open areas?
well
goldfish brain might explain that
this is not related to lore but pyre i think i need to add u on sky
If it were just sparks, what turns sunlight into usable light? Why would plants have such wide leaves?
they dont see them.. and even if they do, it would be like a hawk attacking a bunch of ants.... hard to catch and way less energy than mantas
they nest in nooks and crannies too....
eh, or they can be more or less immune to darkness
they can be hurt by it but very slightly?
sunlight and usable light is completely different... i dont think anyone does photosyntesis in sky except for forest trees long ago
I know but going off of the dark plants where mantas are stuck I was wondering why they nest in the middle of a clearing lol
imagine if a hawk slams into an ant.... splat...
but the chances r super low
almost non existant
no im not talking about krills any more
oh ok
like they live in plants
ye
also if the plants don't have a way of trapping creatures, how did that light miner get consumed?
Ya
what if they're sticky?
the plants that used up butterfly energy too fast died out cuz of hunger... the ones that used too less died too... the ones that use just the right amount stilll lives
natural selsction
that dud was just trapped and prob starved to death
And how did they not have a candle? I have like a million candles
real life predatory plants have nectar that works as a draw and trap for their food
you touch the base and boom your stuck. you have to escape by burning and the miners ran out of light
also it looks like the dude is alive when he's stuck
ye everything`s damp and wet
plants and butterflies kinda help each other
butterflies gives energy to help the plants grow
and butterflies get protection from something even bigger like krills? crabs?
u know when the players are around each other they give each other energy, maybe butterflies are like that, thatâs what allowed it to live despite the dark plants keep sucking energy from em
drink dark plant nectar and perish
id like to think only butterflies that lives in more dangerous places do that
dark plants arent rlly like plants.. they dont to photosynthesis and they dont bloom
like the wasteland butterflies
yeďżź
yes of course
and other butterflies just kinda flies around being lame
oop
10 minutes?
last theories plz
lurking noises
If they are sticky, why don't we stick
how many butterfly theories we have now
till i sneep and i cant put new theories in the nat geo sky doc
abt 7
we have flame, and also idk if the dark plants can ingest clay
they arent prob its not in the doc
i wanna see all of em
only light prolly
ye
so far
anyone with new theories?
ooookay.... we r calling it a day, wrapping up episode 1 of the nat geo sky series
falls out of ceiling
cus its nature and stuff
we report on the lives of sky creatures documentary style
we have new lore bois
we do? telll
yes
the new season trailer
oh yes
what about it
the colosseum is a place for only skilled/champions to perform
the entire kingdom comes to watch
The fastest way to become a champion is to do racing
mHm
but ice skating is an option too
also with the emotes we get the races have to involve some tricks
As well as other professions
but this also means that the temples are holy
well we already knew that
but you're performance is considered a holy act
But the people have statues of The Valley elders laying around
but you're performance is considered a holy act
@thorny folio yes!
Flying is considered holy because the idea came from the elders/skykids
imma just watch this
so the races would be considered holy
hol up
so sky kids are god
No thatâs Megan
or elders are god
or at least venerated as such
gofs
yes
lmao
gifs
please autocorrect
the idea of wings came from the elders
because in orbit we see skykids everywhere
and the elders lived in orbit before they fell
but normal people canât harness light
didn't everyone?
i thought like spirits are lower ranks of god
and elders are higher ranks of godďżź
As evidenced by the fact that no spirit has any diamonds on there wings
and skids are just magic flying rock child
no the spirits are the dead citizens of the kingdom
oh understandable
everything goes to orbit when they die because itâs heaven
sky kids go yeet
shoot I have a quiz
Bye egg
thank
Good luck
see you guys later
ok so the spirits could only glide
sky is hell
Because only light creatures can âuseâ light
like use it to fly
mantas are old
yea
Imma sneep now...
Mono, great work as always lol
Thank you
bai pyre
but personally I think the mantas where too small to ride
except for the ones in prairie
Because prairie is just clouds
and clouds produce light
u can still ride other mantas
not if there too small
light creatures are just light clumped together
while dark creatures are the same
mantas = krill
Butterflyâs = crabs
each light and dark creature had a equal
All neutral creatures didnât
spirits are considered neutral
And I dunno where I was going with this
mhm
Nvm it was a short one
but can dark creatures use darkness
Gn Pyre!
good question
I donât think so? It might make them stronger or feed their more aggressive impulses, but it seems more harmful than productive
i like to think they can use darkness, like how krills can fly too, but when using darkness it hurts itself
plants can use it to drawn out light
this is why when u burn em u have candle light
u h
actually
wait
krills and mantas work the same way
they are clumped together forms of light or dark
so they use darkness to sustain themselves
ye lmao
but can âeatâ eachothers elements
yes
skykids can burn darkness plants for wax and krills attack skykids in an attempt to eat their light
mhm
Darkness seems to be able to create a symbiotic relationship with creatures
I think light can do the same
the crabs used to be pests
but only in large numbers
plants mostly just draws out light from the ground and air, they donât need much light
crabs need a bit more light, so when they attack u u lose some power
krills needs more bc they bi g
crabs and krill donât need light to essentially survive
it is seemed out though
seeked
as seen by the whole killing all the spirits thing
like how skids donât need wax to survive but they still get it for stuff
yes
plus simply to hunt
krills used to attack spirits too
so it would make sense they attack skykids
Even if they didnât want light
most creatures seem to retain normal animal instincts
mhm
anyways

yes?
oh hey aqua
the krill appeared suddenly
like extremely quickly
we actually can see them rise out of the sand in the last desert wasteland area
and if you get spotted thereâs no time to prepare
whitch means creatures can form extremely quickly
uh
Thanks for coming to my Ted talk
or maybe they didnât just âformâ
they just simply hide in sand
and comes out when thereâs noice yum yum skids
like those spiders who bury in the ground or fish who hide in the sand
huh
Then why werenât there any recordings
or paintings
we have manta and crab murals
But no krill
Except for in ark where they where attacked by a krill
Iâm new to lore discussion, is there any chance there was a civilisation before us skykids (the spirits perhaps) and there were no survivors of the Krills so they were never recorded?
the spirits are the civilization before the skykids
skykids fell out of the sky in the spirit era
O
But not in large numbers
we only see one fall out of the sky
and see almost no trace of other skykids
I remember someone saying âwake up, child. Bring our lost stars home.â. Is it an elder or another being...
Yo what if dark creatures are actually corupted by something
Interesting
I remember someone saying âwake up, child. Bring our lost stars home.â. Is it an elder or another being...
@golden bolt we donât khow
So they want to bring back their light cus theyre used to be light creature??
I personally think the voice is Megan or the prophecy questgiver
The voice of @scenic hedge is a whisper that echoes through the ages. May we meet again in the Eye of Eden!
S H USH
whoâs Megan
Im moff
Sorry Iâm new to lore, it seems interesting tho
Are we allowed to lore about beta content or nah?
Oh a'ight then-
What
HAHA IM SO HAPPY
:00000
anyways
Could the king be Eden elder..
His darkness is stored ||in the diamond|| perhaps
Oo
the power diamonds are wood and dark shoved together
or any other organic material
or possibly light
but they basically create power
They are everywhere
Who uses the power
Is this the doc-
no
Fun fact - children of the light are tiny, because on one of the pipes in the final golden wasteland chapter there is duct tape going around it
I mean most skykids are half the hight of grown adults
So you want to tell me
They duct taped pipes those are 2-3 times larger
Than them
?
Thatâs not really a good thing
skykids are half the height of spirits
who are confirmed to be adults
so they are short
Kay
What if krill were born in pipes and the fact they are so round is because they were squished into that shape
Thatâsâ
What if krill were born in pipes and the fact they are so round is because they were squished into that shape
@short owl ...
.
a
I-
I broke people. Whoops
cursed theory
I have my own krill theory that includes those pipes if you need to read it
Sure
so the pipes are where the sludge of the light creatures after being turned into power diamonds since bad feeling like hate and vengeance don't get used for the diamonds. so all this bad sludge started to accumulate and started to split the pipes up, collecting shrapnel as they bursted. then the sludge started to pool into the water of wasteland and started binding with small creatures in that water, krill. as the sludge kept building and building then made the krill what they are today, giant dark creatures made out of the hate of the light creatures used for the diamonds
explaines
-keeps organic (ish)
-has explanation for clanking sounds
-why they hate the ancestors
-shape
doesn't explain
-why they hate us
-target/attack sound
-eye lights
glad I have this in a easy access place
Maybe they hate us because we are too much like power diamonds
well they need light creatures to consume to survive, and they see our light and think we're a manta or smth
except we're just hosts for it and they can't eat us, so the krill go >: ()
And the sound they make could be the cumulative angry screaming of all the animals whos dark combined to make them
the horrible screeching noise? that tracks
in a constant quest to regain thier own lost light they attack the skykids to try and gain theres
that sound about what your thinking egglet?
roughly similar size to emperor penguins
How do you know
measuring with office's computers
yes, although this may not be a conscious decision. If not, they eat to sustain themselves because they weren't built for darkness
duct tape?
I mean its blue
Why are all the pipes grey then
texture bugs?
And this one would specifically be blue
well the pipes are made of stone
This isnt a bug
I thought they were rollers for some kind of conveyor belt
I think its duct tape cuz
they look almost like ball berings
That would explain how krills got out of them pipes
if they where made in the pipes in the first place
There are a few places where graphic bugs cause a blue striped pattern
Tgc is aware of them
What?
i thought those were new textures lol
actually I don't think it has kam
Is that hair?
Could anyone
nope megan concept
not at all
Cuz I jave no idea
megan = ramen noodles
I have no idea about this games lore
theres a link to the google docs let me find it
Megan only has 8 flaps haha
there isn't much of it lol
yo bricky we got a lore moff
thought that would get bricky but maybe not
Thank you :)
but let me find the new moth lore doc that has more on it
wait I think I have it somewhere
found it
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once youâve read this, check out pins for more information. 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
no idea
all crabs look the same except for color and maybe some darkdust on them
and all have very similar tendencies
Do they have a seam on their underside?
no just "rock"
Ok
Hmm
So that suggests that the crabs dont reproduce
Or atleast not In the way crabs do
we're trying to have a kids game here
Oh sorry

but something about crabs I think you should know is the crabs at sanctuary will help other crabs get flipped back over
it's actually pretty cute to watch
Okay
Crabs in Oasis too
what is oasis?
ohhh maybe I should say âNext to the Broken Temple â
ohh
Understand?
yeah
I was thinking "maybe that's just the name for sanctuary in a different language is something"
I'll try to remember that
Interesting that sanc crabs are more effective and agressive than gw crabs
Perhaps sanc crabs are healthier?
maybe the area has some effect on the crabs
I think itâs because theyâre cleaner and stuff?? The less pollution there is the more aggression will pass by
Hmm... So a mixed thought here - crabs in arc got cranky after water was taken. Crabs in oasis get cranky unless they are island crabs sitting in the sun.
What if water naturally collects light (including sunlight), which is how clouds charge us, and when the caves dried out (the ship suggests the water level used to be higher), sanc crabs lost their source of light
GW crabs have been hungry longer and are thus weaker, but sanc crabs are newly cranky so they are more friendly to eachother and have more energy for aggression
(sorry, this is such a cool thought! What is GW an abbreviation of?)
GW = Golden Wasteland 
Cool thanks!
Now I feel bad for crabbos and love them more
Poor lil dudes
I don't blame them for being annoying jxbdihihd
I'm late to this discussion, but I like Null's theory on the crabs
Me too
hmmm hello, can someone tell me if the theory of each realm being a phase of life is canon?
Idk if it's canon but it's rather a very common theory
Someone told me it was Canon, and it was said on a live, but I didn't see anything about it in the doc here
Iâve seen it written on quite a few bits of early concept art and stuff
Oh, I know, but here in my country the fanbase is for sure and not sure where it came from
It's cannon enough for The Office
True
I followed the posts about the creations and on social media this theory wasnât even
Tbh TGC'S games are often compared to the stages of life
Specially journey
But I just don't want to say whether it's canon or not cuz I don't know enough about the theory
Tgc put the stages of life associated with each realm on a poster in the office
Although they have been placed in the office,in the social media this theory wasn't even apears
I think if the only place thatâs mentioned is in the office, then itâs probably not Canon. If it were, they would have talked about it in the realms creations
I do think orbit and Eden support the life stages theory big time though since Eden can easily be seen as the process of dying, and orbit can be compared to heaven or an afterlife
yeah,i kwow,i heard it a lot of time
But apparently itâs a popular symbology in fans, but not related to lore so far
Idk about that. The game's lore is still a mystery and it's kept that way for people to make theories and stuff about the game and its story so if the life stages theory is canon they'd probably not mention is since it's a huge theory based on Sky's story.
But maybe you're right
Well, they mentioned the the phases of the day in the creation posts on social networks, but nothing about phases of life
I even remember that the posts were made before the office changes, and there were a lot of people asking about the theory of phases in coments
Iâve recently heard about the âKingâ, the Eden Elder, who isnât in game but thereâs statues of him throughout. Can someone tell me more about this? I didnât even know he existed until a few days ago. Is he good? Is he bad? Is he on the same side as the elders, is he the cause of destruction? And what actually hapoened to Eden...? The name implies a beautiful, life-filled paradise.
We don't know much about him other than him and the prince may or may not be the same person, and that they've likely made a huge mistake that caused corruption.
Oof... oh wait yeah i heard of a prince too one time, that adds to my comfusion...
confusion*
well they exist just we just don't get to see them unfortunately but both still "exist"
Yeah
but you come up with whatever you think they acted like or what happened to them!
Whatâs the like, general area that sky takes place in called?
Sky...?
đď¸đđď¸
The fallen Kingdom is literally called "The Kingdom of Sky"
yeah its the kingdom of sky

Bricky calls it "horizon" and the ancestors "cloud ppl", @lost wing
@hushed steeple sky devs made sky's realms based on life stages and times of days
And its confirmed
But thats meta and not in game lore
I call it Horizon
Nice
That could have been gold for nat geo sky but the forest templ has an open roof with light but the crabs r still aggressive and sunlight and sparks are very different...@short owl
Oop srry so much for the ping
I was talking abt the xrab theory u made up there
Abt no sunlight makes crabs mad
Henlo
Pyre, I reccomend the reply feature if responding to old messages

Hello Ali
What we talkin bout today
I have no idea
....
Idk. I just hopped on for a moment inbetween other stuffs

shall we start birds?
butterflies is finished
nat geo sky
So I just relived the "Come here" spirit memory and...the skykid (?) that they found in the sand...I need to know more about them
Did the spirits rescue them? What'd that kid turn into in the end?
Bru
Ok now... give me all your bird theories plz
No u first
Ok here goes
There r 2 types of birds, lets just call them pidgeons and swallows for now
Lets make a better name for them later...
Pidgeons generally live on the ground and dont migrate... they are capable of landing on the ground and are qble to digest orgqnic material...
Swallows never land. They are born flying and die flying... their bodies like other light creatures r self sufficient and they grow their own food inside their bodies
Ali, plz make bird theories too...
Sky wildlife kinda flies over my head,,, sorry pyre 
Question
Ye?
Hello what we talking about
Pineapple sugar? U have any birb theories?
How did swallows reproduce to maintain their existence
Can you link me some proof? :0
Bruh
You can see it in the wall of the office in the dining area
Ye but office isnt lore
I'm not talking about office itself
I was thinking it was meta but people made it seem like it was merely a theory earlier khsohsihd
Seriously anyone got more bird theories?
So I was confused and didn't want to assume anything
Ben we rlly need bird theories rn, could u think of sum?
Birds aren't particularly active in the ecosystem. Nothing eats them, and they don't stay to reproduce. Really they just pass through the world in a loop from the megabird to the planet and back to the megabird
They do, however, consume small plants and leave behind orbs of light
These orbs are really appreciated by the landlocked creatures, since they're a primary means for light to be returned to the planet
What I mean, I cannnot say
like the ones from the laugh spirit cutseen?
Tell me plz...
I think so, yeah
How does it go?
tho maybe it's birdcall?
no it's definitely the laugh one
How does it go?
Jouske, copy before hitting enter
Wut do the birds do...
so a "light catcher" goes to try to collect a floating white orb and falls
the spirit we get the emote from laughs at them for falling
I cant go into sky rn...
The floating white orbs are supposed to have come from the birbs
I think a little larger than birds actually
Huh...
but we don't get to see birds in the cutseen so idk
Idk
Ok then how abt this... when swallows make excess light, it all comes together bbecause of they're
Formation when they fly
And thats the huge orb of light
When did they become swallows
maybe the light just kinda snowballs together into something bigger
Yes yes
Maybe when the light leaves the birb, it expands
Long ago null, long ago
kind of like how big fire make small butterfly
I dont think light would expand on their own...
It might if it were previously compacted
Cause compacting light is part of the process of turning light into life?
Life?
Yeah
Huh...
Like how Ayin turned a flame into a butterfly
anyways I got some world building to do for something see y'all

Big flame, small butterfly
Oh no no null
Now imagine you had better power over it (cause you're the megabird)
You could make a bigger, yet more compact light creature
like a bird
Ayin was just hatching the Butterfly with high temperatures.... all creatures r born naturally...
Im srry but like... yea...
Not artificially made by an elder...
But you still have big flame with lil butterfly
So lil butterfly needs alot of power eh
Ye
Like dragon eggs lol
Your theory abt how excess light forms orbs and it rains down on the ground to be like fertilizers or food has been added
Dreomow?
Any other theories?
Oh an null your theory abt how birds r too high up for darkness plants and too small for krill
So they rarely get hunted has also been added
Ok more of my theories then...
The forest temple was built in the Birds migration path and thats how they churned out diamonds so fast - a bird conveyer belt
Ok folks imma take a 45 min break from this chat like i always do on Saturdays
SO IF U HAVE A BIRD THEORY YOU WPULD LIKE TO ADD TO THE DOC, PLZ PING ME
Hiii its been a while since i visited this channel
Lore chat nseeping
does anyone have any theory about the monster in forest? the one where when we go to eden we see them too- idk their name arghhh 
Tis called a whale and we can see it on the way from Valley to Wasteland as well
Nope- the one in Sanctuary is called an Elder Manta
A Whale is a lot chunkier than an Elder Manta lmao
chonky
As for theories I'm not really familiar with much? Other than the Whale not being a light creature at least

Whale isnt a light creature?
No
Why?
I believe it is tho
Its very similar to the Elder Manta.
Its just very old and ancient
It is old and ancient
Plus whale can be seen crossing to orbit
That dosent mean it's a light creature
Then if a non light creature can cross to orbit how come krills can't?
The whale may not be a light creature, but that wouldn't necessarily make it a dark creature either. I think a lot of people see it as being more of a neutral creature, since it never really interacts with us directly, it's just kind of there
Yes
They might be hybrid like sky kids
Imo skids are sentient
Its been a while since i've read skids 
Skids are sentient because it can be hit by a giant creature charging at them with the heavy weight and still survive without a budge,fell slowly??? Even if they fell really fast I bet they can still feel nothing going to valleys water without feeling anything the outer layer must be clay which protects the hollow area of the body which contains the soul
Imo whales are closely to hybrid since if you get close to the whale that is crossing to orbit, the whale can damage you
Not sure if that can explain their sentience, but their interactions with the Elders do suggest that they have subtle forms of communication
Their imperviousness to pain isn't really indicative of sentience
Their really fast movement and tough skin damaged you they are neutral creatures to me
Tho, Whales are big and ancient compared to us Skids. Maybe we lose light the same way we lose light when we smack into stuff sometimes-
I mean, the way we lose light to touching the Whales is similar to how we lose light when we smack into stuff like the moths we are 
Yeah, the Whale is MOVING too. Imagine flying into a big creature that's also moving fast
Can someone explain the whole diamond theory? I heard dead light creatures have a role in it, and Iâm confused đŹ
*crushed light creatures
Nasty
Aye
Like, smacking into a solid object at fast speed is one thing. But smacking into one thats moving at fast speed is a entirely different thing
Thats like running into a moving train-
I hear it's time to talk about the juicer-
Why are crushed light creatures used to power the diamonds, for example?
here's a concept art explaining the mechanisms for the machine
Yes
yep- likely-
Would they crush sky kids as well? (Ik prob not)
I mean...
O-O
considering skids likely didn't exist during that time it's kind of unlikely-
I dont think so considering the Prince is one...
We're not totally made of light like the light creatures but they could crush our shells and take the light
also would you really be willing to crush something that looks like a CHILD
Good point
Why not
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Nah thats the prince
I'm- if we're all agreeing that that's the Prince-
Yeah, the Prince, which is a skid
then why don't you think that the thing that fell that looks like a skid is a skid
It has the exact same model as the skid model-
The prince made us in his image like god in the bible but according to the opening cutscene skids were made a long time after the fall of the kingdom
So yea...
'in his image'
Srry @thin dirge
suggests exactly that
Ye
that the Prince was a s k i d
Nah
Still implies Prince was a skid
The humans are Ancestors in Sky...
No...like...
Prince is more like "Jesus" in the story
i don't know if that allegory even applies here
Just cuz they look the same doesnt mean they ARE the same...
Uh, Prince even flies like a skid from the concepts-
okay- let's back up a little- I sense discrepancy-
Im just saying, the prince prob made us to LOOK like him... but skids didnt exist at the time

and when I say actual skid I mean the ones like us
so when you say the Prince ISN'T a skid- he isn't exactly like a skid, is that what you meant Pyre?
I think so but stretching it into an analogy between making humans in the image of god is a stretch
Considering the Prince doesn't even hold sovereign over the skids
It's marginal even if we go by the Prince=Skids theory
We could also be the Prince, kinda like a 2nd Coming
If we are indeed using religion as an allegory to this
Most likely? if whoever made them weren't like- godly-
greetings lore chat, i see weâre talking about the prince 
Heya Brick
I read the thingys! Pretty cool :>
I'm probably still gonna keep my hcs about the Prince
well, iâm still thinking of my theory
Besides, this chat aint for debates about what's right or wrong
however i did have some ideas along the line of that today
i came up with a reasoning for the 63 fallen in eden
What happened to the king and prince? Where are they now? Dead??
We dont know
ah yes- the weirdly specific number of 63-
That's the thing
They're stated to be around, but we dont know where or how
Iâm brick
debates are half of like what we do here-
Hello Brick
anyways, would yâall like to hear my idea 
Ye
I suggest u watch the opening cutscene again...@thin dirge ... u will see that the elders fall, then the realms r made, then they collapse AND THEN the first skids r seen to be made...
Im srry but your theory doesnt make a lotta sense...
Also i gtg imma be back in 45 mins bye~~~
True, but it can sometimes turn a little too much.
That's what I was worried abiut
I've seen it a few times here, and I don't like seeing it
Why can we see some spirits but not others?
Also, there's a chance the intro actually isn't in the order we thought it was
I mean- I guess so long as none of us are going forth hurling insults into each other I guess we're in the clear? Then again I sense a lot of passive-aggressiveness sometimes
I mentiined it here a few times
we can't even trust the intro ajsajhjsh
Maybe the king and prince went into hiding after the collapse of the kingdom because they were worried that the public would blame them and like, kill em or something?
Yeah, thats what I feel sometimes, which feels like gatekeeping or pushing people into agreeing and stuff.
I mean, its alright, but it can easily get too far
so
im going to preface this with i believe the prince aged into the king, and as he age he slowly corrupted
I believe he constructed the 63 eden children out of clay, and then sacrificed each bit of his remaining light to give them light. he knew he was going to die, and he wanted there to be someone around after him to keep things running
so, when the eden diamond exploded, the 63 children died trying to fix it, and the king died as well
from there i like to imagine Megabird giving thĂŠ CoL/Prince/King a second chance, which is why today we sacrifice our Light to save the fallen
but eh, doesnât have much basis, just a fun idea i thought of
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If prince can age this is the most advanced skid?
Iâve read it (Tysm)
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yeah, the prince is the direct child of the megabird in my theories
Wack
So is the megabird the god of sky?
Ye
basically yes
But- if he were to age, wouldn't that kind of go against an Elder's ageless nature?
wait nvm
Cool
What if the aging stop at a very specific point?
according to the concepts, megabird is a being that is connected to all light
My theory was that something bad happened to the Prince, possibly falling into the same limbo we found ourselves in when we die in Eden.
Prince was too important, being the incarnation and literal child of Megan/the Light, and was necessary to trigger Ascencion. Isle Elder could do that too, but he was damaged and also stuck in limbo.
That's where the 63 statues came from. Descendants that sacrificed themselves to save the Prince, whuch worked. That's why there's nothing left to save.
Prince was already saved
Shinybois are described as being the imprints of the Child of Light
whether Child is singular or plural is weirdly used interchangeably
Oooo
And who exactly shinyboi is- we have no exact clue-
Is it confirmed that Skids are light? If no, I have a small theory.
although it is mentioned we have a  relationship  with the child of light as a character
skykids are debated to be pure light or not
many people see them as hybrids of light and dark
Ooh, sure!
quick question and idk if this has been answered before but seriously why 63
That's a weirdly specific number
for the number of Fallen we see
Credit me tho-
Also, yall noticed that 63 is enough for 7 wedges..?
The same amount of wedges everytime we ascend...
This is guna sound really random bc I have like no evidence, but what if sky kids are not light, but just neutral dark? The starts we take seem to die in darkness (losing our winged light) but we seem to do alright in it..
Stars not starts*
Well, concepts does have Descendants being dark and light hybrids
Here's one of 'em
Ooo
Well, depends in interpretation...
Keep in mind, those are from concepts, so exactly how much of it is carried over is debatable
But I think it mostly boils down to interpretation?
We are also outright referred to as a new generation
I believed the statues in Eden were descendants tho
Huh
Technically he was new gen when he fell-
Yeah
welcome to questioning what the actual heck are skids
What species is an Skid..
Whelp- the clue is that we're neither Elders nor Ancestors
We got parents, or do we just like poof out of the light??
Skids cannot grow up to be Elders
There's some other theories I see sometimes pop up- skids being perfect power diamonds,
or golems
tiny golems with a taste for anarchy
Basically anthropomorphic beings made from any inanimate matter
Like stones and clay
You mentioned earlier that you think we're kind of a neutral dark presence
cries like a confused moff
That's kind of how it's split, according to some theories
A light soul, inside a dark vessel
Or smthn along those lines
I thought the stars like, fell or something and our job was to get em back?
Are we even sentient? Do we think???
Ye
Are we sentient?
Our sentience isn't that questionable- if you look at our interactions with the Elders
Pretty sure, yeah
Our skid appears to feel emotion, especially in Eden...
They know signals like nodding and asking Wasteland Elder not to push himself- non-verbally, but still
Oh gosh, the thought of it makes me feel depressed for our skid in Eden...
and also if u sit long enough the skykid starts to stretch or rub their head
they have reflexes
And can feel visible pain- refer to Eden-
Ye
When taking out winged lights to give to the Fallen, they flinch
If you have different stance on for Eden, youll notice after passing the first area of Eden, your skid is hunched down a little, and you can't change the stance
Sad :((