#lore-discussion-spoilers

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queen locust
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Things the Elders are- ageless, and pretty much predestined to be the Elders of their respective realms

fallen epoch
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Hmmmm

cobalt garnet
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@edgy sleet Appologies for the ping, but do you still have pictures of the "Traveler" cape in Sky? May I also ask when this was too?

queen locust
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« The elders were elders from the beginning, and children of light will not grow up to be elders. Children of light are of new generation »
« Elders are very ancient. We don't know their age or birthdays, gender, or if age & gender existed »
-Canon Lore Doc, Japanese Livestream 2

fallen epoch
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Oh, maybe I should have read that doc :3

queen locust
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Tis a pretty eye-opening read

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anyway- the reason I said that that was MAYBE skid number one was that this kid looks like a skid and the fact that it was in Isle

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aka the birthplace of the Prophecy

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Bricky I think expanded on theories concerning that fallen skid somewhere

fallen epoch
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I'm positive that it is a sky kid, and if sky kids are the "new generation" It seems probable

queen locust
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Which- if I think about it now- does coronation technically count as 'growing up'

fallen epoch
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Bricky was the first sky kid

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Duh

queen locust
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About that- if that skid was the Prince and he were the Eden Elder

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If he were to be crowned King does that technically count as someone 'growing up'

fallen epoch
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Uhhhhhhhhh

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Ummmmmmmmm

hollow stump
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Where is this from?

fallen epoch
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Uhhhhh

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Buhhhh

queen locust
fallen epoch
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The spirits in isle got updated memories

hollow stump
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Thank you

queen locust
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That 'come here' spirit memory to be exact

fallen epoch
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Just the first two

queen locust
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now if the Prince were to get into a mech- and they referred to the mecha Prince as the King

fallen epoch
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...

queen locust
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does that count as growing up-

fallen epoch
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@lethal stump This one is scaring me! Execute them!

queen locust
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shoot cowards- you're only killing a man XD

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jk jk

lethal stump
fallen epoch
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Do it!!!

queen locust
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Bricky quick question is the Prince the Eden Elder in your theory about the fallen skid?

vestal swift
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I HAVE RETURNED FROM THE FLAMES OF PURGATORY
even though there is no fire in eden and im just being dramatic

queen locust
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Oh heya Prenc

vestal swift
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Hello

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What did i miss about the birth of the skids?

queen locust
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not much other than me having certain questions about what counts as growing up

grand swift
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growing up imo is getting more wl

vestal swift
queen locust
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Because- Elders don't age, they were always just Elders

grand swift
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as u move through the the realms

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you get more wl

queen locust
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Me why-

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That's been in live for a week don't worry-

hushed lodge
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oh??? whats that pEyes

grand swift
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then you die to fulfill the unfinished business of your dead ancestors for some fancy candles :)

fallen epoch
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Sue them!

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Take this to sky court

queen locust
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Does Sky HAVE a court

grand swift
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lmao

fallen epoch
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ALL RISE FOR THE HONORABLE JUDGE OREO!

queen locust
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then again if they were organized enough for a military I GUESS they could have a court

fallen epoch
vestal swift
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Isn’t sky court the elders

fallen epoch
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They are the jury

vestal swift
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Fair enough

queen locust
hushed lodge
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ooooo

queen locust
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ANYWAY- if Elders were always Elders and they don't grow into their positions as Elders-

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What of the Prince and his Eden Elder status as King

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ASSUMING all three of those people are the same person

fallen epoch
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I love all the oreo emojis

queen locust
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Was he just always the Elder when he fell? Did coronation just not count for the ageless aspect?

fallen epoch
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This topic hurts my brain 😦

queen locust
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does patting your three pounds of sponge help

fallen epoch
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Yes, thank you

vestal swift
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:0

fallen epoch
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Too much school, I can't keep up X/

hushed lodge
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I'm such a moth in terms of lore lol- but the Eden king looks so cool

queen locust
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Oh- welcome to one of our more chaotic hours then XD

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We trust that you've read the pins?

short owl
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Eden has plenty of fire. It's just frozen

hushed lodge
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not really, I read the doc tho

fallen epoch
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I've never really been interested in the kingdom or how it works. the elders, the king, the prince, what they represent: Pffthpt!

hushed lodge
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I clicked on this channel on accident and got wrapped up in reading the discussion XD

queen locust
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And the Ninth Circle is frozen

fallen epoch
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GET OUTTA HERE WITH YOUR DANTE'S INFERNO

queen locust
vestal swift
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-

queen locust
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That thing is literally the Empyrean-

vestal swift
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+-+

fallen epoch
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BANNED!

queen locust
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or at least that's what it looked like

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ye do that-

queen locust
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Tis cool but what are we discussing about them-

grand swift
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i just used it as an excuse to flex

fallen epoch
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Oh?

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Well, if we're flexing

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I DID EDEN 5 TIMES ON MY FIRST WEEK! >:D

queen locust
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if we're flexing we probably shouldn't do it here-

grand swift
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yeah it was a one time thing

queen locust
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Oh mai

fallen epoch
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Well, that's all I have

grand swift
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not to mention when you die

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how do u just get transported

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does your spirit float to the diamond that we dont see

fallen epoch
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Huh?

grand swift
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or just instantaneously

fallen epoch
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...

queen locust
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doesn't our spirit just like- kind of wander around when we die

fallen epoch
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MOMMY! HELP ME!

queen locust
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And the camera just pans up to the moon

grand swift
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i swear spirits all went to eden

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and they were remembered because they ascended eden

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however i dont think elders did that ever

fallen epoch
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...

queen locust
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The Elders are pretty much in limbo so not sure how they could have Ascended themselves

fallen epoch
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HEEEELLLLLPPPPP!

queen locust
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so you've got a point there-

fallen epoch
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EEEEEEEEE

queen locust
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oof- good luck on the history dude

grand swift
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bc it would help every single elder

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you can see how your flame helped all the elders

uneven grotto
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@grand swift I actually feel like the king was consumed with greed after combining the elements into the eden diamond.

He forcefully removed the light from the Isle elder and destroyed/stole forging hammer of the Forest elder.

fallen epoch
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I'm deleting my brain. And blowing up this server

queen locust
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We couldn't really do it because it was never our job to do it

grand swift
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yeah it was the kings greed

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because he felt entitled to all of the light in the diamond

uneven grotto
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There was no light except the Light Kids to keep the darkness from overwhelming the realms, which is why we see darkness plants even in Prairie.

queen locust
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heck even Isle underneath the temple apparently

uneven grotto
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The light Kids all went to Eden to try and save the lands, but they couldn't overcome the storm.

grand swift
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which connects to the theory

sinful anvil
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(i am beginning to think descendants are pretty much what happens if light n darkness have babies (from that one concept art of venn diagram with light n dark creatures))

queen locust
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i've got no clue what to make of that interpretation

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other than that yes that's TECHNICALLY what they are-

uneven grotto
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We never see Spirits or Elder riding Mantas. They are always in light-powered boats.

grand swift
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yeah

uneven grotto
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Mantas have a special connection to the Children of the Light.

grand swift
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they had to rely on their technology, specifically gw

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gw was a factory

sinful anvil
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(what im trying to say is “canonly” there is no dark counterpart to skykids, but you can corrupt skykids if you mean pushing the light and dark in them out of balance. but if you’re drawing dark-kids for the lolz n fun just go for it)

hushed lodge
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k-krill manta

grand swift
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i mean a skykid isnt light

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its just light to fulfil their form

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this was another theory

sinful anvil
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(and yea this is a reaction to the fanart about dark kids)

queen locust
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A h-

grand swift
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that skykids were just dark not hostile creatures with some wl to cover up their dark side

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but when we ascend eden we get true light and can break boulders and everything

vestal swift
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prenc has left the chat

grand swift
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lol

uneven grotto
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I don't think the kingdom had a civil war. I think the product of the King's greed was some dark forces that came against GW from the outside, either by being called by the king in Eden, or by being DRAWN to the power of Eden.

GW put up a valiant defense, but eden and everything, including most of the dark forces, were destroyed.

grand swift
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gw didnt have krills imo before

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they mightve had something else

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just like the pollution couldve

uneven grotto
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I don't think it was all Krill, but at least some, including Pipicus Giganticus (pipe cleaners, which could actually do stuff because almost all the light was gone from the land)

grand swift
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also pipes play a big part in eden

queen locust
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Please tell me it's not the dark worms

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Oh god it is

uneven grotto
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@queen locust c'mon. You love it.

queen locust
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I have a few misgivings

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One- we're not even sure if those things even exist outside of the zfire Trial

grand swift
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gw was never a place that was meant to be good

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it was a factory

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merely for ppl to work

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and make more power diamonds

hushed steeple
queen locust
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Two- those things are quite unlike krill in that they're not at all hostile

grand swift
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then bc of improper care (imo)

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the factory deteriorated and the dark creatures were formed and yeah

queen locust
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They're a threat to the existence of light but it's not an active effort

uneven grotto
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@grand swift probably (see broken crystal room with first krill), but all we see in the memories is the warfare/defense part of it.

grand swift
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plus gw is below the clouds

queen locust
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Light merely happens to be snuffed out if you happen to be in their path

grand swift
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maybe like the turrets seen in the concept art

hushed steeple
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What is the topic btw? I kinda get it but idk if I get it fully

teal orbit
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R we sure shadows r creatures?

uneven grotto
teal orbit
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I just woke up lol

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Pipe cleaners r deaf too

hushed steeple
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The shadows are like creatures but they behave in a way that something programmed would behave, plus they're literally just smoke

uneven grotto
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@hushed steeple everything

queen locust
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pipe cleaners are probably anything but blind considering they're literally just eyes with smoke trails

teal orbit
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Maybe its just magic smoke

queen locust
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Also morning Pyre

teal orbit
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Hey~~~

hushed steeple
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Yeah maybe they are just magic

edgy sleet
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@edgy sleet Appologies for the ping, but do you still have pictures of the "Traveler" cape in Sky? May I also ask when this was too?
@cobalt garnet hi there! I’m at work atm but will get back to u tonight with dates

hushed steeple
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I wonder what would have summoned them tho

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Or created them

queen locust
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If not blind in that sense then they're probably using thermal vision

cobalt garnet
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Thanks!

teal orbit
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The "eyes" r prob like wuts generating the smoke...

hushed steeple
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Ooo

teal orbit
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Oh hey duds wut dya think is better?
Tst.ver.2.0
Or
The symbiote theory?
I mean they cover different topics
But which one is cooler

hushed steeple
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?

teal orbit
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U know the tst ver.2.0 right?

hushed steeple
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I prob do and just never knew what it was called

queen locust
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the heck is symbiote theory

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Oh right- considering we don't exactly know how long the war wages for it's not like it isn't possible at all for there to have been a civil war and a subsequent one with krill if they crossed a certain threshold

hushed steeple
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Man, this asparagus is pretty good

queen locust
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So those barricades could have been used for civil war

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And at some point during it the krill were attracted to the damage wrought by that same war

teal orbit
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Its a theory that says all light and dark creatures r neutral creatures hosting thousands of tiny organisms
And that light creature and dark creature r merely names that hold any "scinetific" significance

queen locust
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Or at least- whatever darkness was generated

teal orbit
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The symbiote theory

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It was huge

queen locust
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in canon lore

teal orbit
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I will send u the doc in a bit

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Yeye

queen locust
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'rich ecology of light and dark'

teal orbit
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They all say that

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I explain in the doc

queen locust
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specifically referred to as 'dark creatures'

teal orbit
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Yes

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I explain in the doc

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Im saying saying "light creatures" and not neutral creatures with light symbiotes is like saying "flying things" and not "birds:

queen locust
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"flying things' also applies to krill

teal orbit
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No like irl

queen locust
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So what's your Sky equivalent?

teal orbit
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Uding the term "light creatures" instead of "neutral creatures capable of hosting light symbiotes"

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*using

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Noy uding

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Dang typos

hushed steeple
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You can edit messages

queen locust
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If I remember from last night you also brought up Prairie and Vault Elder in the construction of butterflies and spirit mantas

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And while I agree that the spirit mantas do smell like artificial work- the butterflies are questionable

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Yes- we see Prairie Elder fashion a butterfly out of flames

hushed steeple
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What if any organism that's transparent is artificial

queen locust
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But I'm having doubts about the ENTIRE RACE of butterflies having been artificial

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I mean- considering Vault where we even see those spirit mantas is a projection

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Then again we have the Jellyfish and I doubt those are artificial

hushed steeple
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Ah, right

queen locust
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Plus the mushrooms

lime steeple
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yk how we see manta getting ||krilled|| in first krill area in gw? what if the transparent mantas we see in vault are like ghosts of the ones that died in gw? what if there were more of them in gw before?

hushed steeple
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How'd they get in vault from gw

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And why are they in vault

queen locust
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Heck I don't doubt that a lot of mantas were killed in Golden Wasteland

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But I do wonder how they'd even get to Vault

lime steeple
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well you only have door from gw to vault...and maybe they were taken there...anyways i didn’t think this thru it was just random idea...sorry

hushed steeple
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Isn't there a theory that vault is all a dream when we go in it? Could explain why things look so transparent and unreal.

queen locust
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Tis okay- it's a valid question

hushed steeple
queen locust
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And ye there was one in Theory Vault and some dev quotes concerning Vault's dreamlike state

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keyword is dreamlike

lyric isle
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I can’t stop thinking about the fact that skids were intended to sound like clay

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They come off as sentient glamim (plural for golem) to me now

queen locust
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wait THAT'S the plural of GOLEM

lime steeple
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how does clay sound like? were they supposed to make like ‘clack’ ‘clack’?

hushed steeple
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I always saw them as stone but idk

lyric isle
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Don’t ask me, ask Hebrew grammar

queen locust
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clay kind of sounds like stone if it was hardened enough and yes it does go clack

teal orbit
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Hey voluntary

hushed steeple
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I just wonder how skids can move their limbs since they're hardened and only internally made of light

lyric isle
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This is very inspired by Hollow Knight, but they seem like vessels for light (as opposed to void, in HK)

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glamim of clay or stone

queen locust
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i haven't seen this theory pop up in a bit and now my morning is made

lyric isle
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and they might be made by a deity

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as well as the vessels

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though this is assuming that intro narrator is Megan

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and I don’t have a certain belief on that

teal orbit
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I think I have found a way for the symbiote theory work with the mech krill theory

queen locust
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i seriously doubt that krill are mech but go on

lyric isle
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tell

teal orbit
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The robots have mechanisms that grow symbiotes inside them

lyric isle
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(also the possible krill bones are making me uneasy)

teal orbit
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Like petri dishes but cooler

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And personally i believe krill r organic

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Plus its canon whether u like it or not

lyric isle
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I’ll only be upset with the krill thing as a lot would collapse on my lore and headcanon end

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how is it canon

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prove

teal orbit
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The livestream

lyric isle
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I need absolute clarification

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What do they say

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quote

hushed steeple
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Reminder that mantas in prairie have power diamonds in them which are artificial things

Edit: (well they appear to be power diamonds)

teal orbit
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Go to the theory vault and search for krill theories

hushed steeple
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Isn't that....

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Theory based

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Only

queen locust
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I mean- if you're looking for absolute clarification we have the canon lore doc Pyre

fallen epoch
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All I know

queen locust
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Not Theory Vault

fallen epoch
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Is that strawberries mean love

queen locust
hushed steeple
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They can mean both imo

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But why are we talking about strawberries

fallen epoch
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But rainy days! Mushroom weather!

queen locust
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Ehhhhhh nobody really cares about what the Victorians think so love it is

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ANYWAY

hushed steeple
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Kbxkhxkhd

queen locust
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<“The world of Sky has a rich ecology of light and dark”>

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<“Dark creatures and dark plants will try to take light from you”>

teal orbit
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Yes...

hushed steeple
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Gotta go eat food brb for awhile

fallen epoch
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<"Strawberries mean love">

queen locust
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Two livestream quotes that point to the krill's dubious existence as a non-organic being- and leans towards it being organic

fallen epoch
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A third, secret, quote ^

teal orbit
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Logically sleaking, thos dont prove anything virdi...

fallen epoch
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Actually, they do. If they were said (I assume by the devs) It makes it canon

teal orbit
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If krill arent dark creatures it still works with those canon stuff

fallen epoch
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Krill are dark creatures.

teal orbit
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Yes yes@fallen epoch its canon

queen locust
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I realize that, but if we were to assume that they were MECHS- how do you explain it's existence in Prophecy

pastel brookBOT
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beware the ||mods||

teal orbit
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Ikr?

fallen epoch
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I don't think Krill are mechs

teal orbit
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Thats why i root for the organic theory

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Like seriously

lyric isle
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“All creatures are born naturally into the world”

fallen epoch
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Just 'cuz they survived in the sludge, and that stuff is nasty

queen locust
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That too, really

lyric isle
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...I need a moment

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existential crisis GO

fallen epoch
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@lyric isle You get 7/10ths of a moment

lyric isle
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I feel a really really horrible unease right now

fallen epoch
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Why?

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Is it because of bricky

teal orbit
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@fallen epoch they evolved so they can survive the sludge....
Its like melted icecream to them

fallen epoch
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Yeah... he does that

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But mechs can't really evolve

teal orbit
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Bricky has a scary aura

fallen epoch
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Also, isn't the graveyard full of Krill bones?

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I don't see no robot stuff there

teal orbit
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No@fallen epoch i think krill r organisms

queen locust
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Why would they have to survive the sludge when they just fly over them

lyric isle
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I think I’m going to cry

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I feel like I will

spring blaze
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D: whats happened here

teal orbit
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And no graveyard has whurtle bones

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@fallen epoch

lyric isle
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I’m just frozen

queen locust
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You need more moments- don't mind Bugkid-

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Just- all the moments that you need Voluntary

teal orbit
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Let it all out in cozy chat

queen locust
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Take 'em

teal orbit
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Ye

fallen epoch
teal orbit
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He just realized krill were organic

queen locust
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I take back what I said then definitely mind Bugkid

teal orbit
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Ive been there@lyric isle

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Its ok

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Its natural

lyric isle
# spring blaze D: whats happened here

I’ve strongly believed the krill are war machines for the longest time, and so many of my beliefs have been rooted in that, and a lot of my view of the kingdom of Sky as a whole

and it is most likely completely debunked by the sole sentence “All creatures are born naturally into the world” being said by the devs, which means so many of my theories crumble to dust

I don’t feel alright

queen locust
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Its not really much of canon lore if that helps even if it is dubious- not much is outright confirmed about krill

fallen epoch
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Ohhhhh

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I'm sorry, that must be rough

lyric isle
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I’ll have to rethink

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everything

teal orbit
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A good transition from there is to move into your "krill r war beasts" phase@lyric isle

lyric isle
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everything

spring blaze
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take your time

lyric isle
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here go the stages of griiiiief

spring blaze
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but your theory is definitely valid. many people have thought that. dont let the devs talk your way into this haha

queen locust
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Take your time, lore chat ain't going anywhere- and we'll be happy to listen to any theories you come up with

lyric isle
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this one belief was the source of so many fun and interesting ideas

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cool concepts of how they could work

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how it impacted the economy

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how the war went

queen locust
fallen epoch
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@lyric isle Have you ever played/seen Journey?

short owl
lyric isle
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the fact they still charge even now it’s over as they were made to

lyric isle
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so many cool ideas

queen locust
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I feel like I'm back in front of panelists I'm sorry-

lyric isle
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so many happy memories

fallen epoch
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Well, I feel like you should play it. You may like a lot of the things presented in the game

lyric isle
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which are now invalid

fallen epoch
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Try it, it is $4.99 on the app store

lyric isle
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nothing

teal orbit
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If u think of krill as specifically trained and selectively bred war beasts it all still works

lyric isle
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It’s been 6 months

queen locust
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Just because they're disproven doesn't mean they're invalidated, you know

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The memories you've attached to this I mean

lyric isle
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They can’t come off as natural to me, I can’t envision them as natural

short owl
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And don't deminish the fun you got from them

lyric isle
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mayhaps cyborgs??

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saying cyborgs might help

queen locust
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to be fair none of us really thought those things were natural from the start lmao

lyric isle
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I might hang onto that??

queen locust
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So your observations were valid from the beginning

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anyway I gotta get ready for class- good luck Voluntary-

spring blaze
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you can keep your theories. its a theory for a reason

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you have many things to back it up, and its clear that you’re very passionate about this particular theory. this channel accepts all theories, dont let any dev confirmations change your views

fallen epoch
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@lyric isle All your theories are wrong. EVERYONE'S theories are wrong. If TGC releases all the lore, It's gonna be some random bullcrap that doesn't make sense with anything XD

lyric isle
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good point

spring blaze
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and tgc loves to keep things vague. i highly doubt theyll ever release the whole story

lyric isle
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it’s just

fallen epoch
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@spring blaze They wont. That's what makes a good story

lyric isle
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‘intentionally vague to allow and encourage interpretation’

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but my biggest strongest-held idea is thrown away

fallen epoch
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@lyric isle Can I provide you with some advice?

lyric isle
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I might hang onto ‘cyborgs’ ifwhen I finally accept this

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yes please

fallen epoch
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Go eat an apple.

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:3

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it'll make you feel better

rapid juniper
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Uhm

spring blaze
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take some time off of this channel

fallen epoch
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...And eat an apple.

lyric isle
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this is going to be a very long painful transition

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I wish myself good luck

rapid juniper
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Yes

fallen epoch
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@lyric isle Eat an apple!!!

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D:

lyric isle
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alrighty

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I’d like to talk a bit more

fallen epoch
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Alright!

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Did you get your apple?

lyric isle
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ye I have something

fallen epoch
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Hey guys, I actually have a lore secret, so Imma use spoiler tags

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||I hacked into Sky and I created a secret area inside the daylight prarie, behind the clouds and above the caves. Inside the area, is the Sky Bugkid Lemonade Stand! I sell lemonade there for 30 cents (50 cents for pink lemonade ;)) Just wanted you guys to know that||

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Don't tell the devs

livid valley
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Please do not talk about hacked content here

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Even though it's spoilered

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I'm also joking pPopcorn

fallen epoch
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Oh dope

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XD

livid valley
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Xd

ember temple
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hands out lemonade to everyone

fallen epoch
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IS THAT MY LEMONADE

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DID YOU STEAL MY LEMONADE?!

lyric isle
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I keep trying to convince myself they’re machines but they’re confirmed not

ember temple
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drops the lemonade and runs away crying

lyric isle
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this is going to be such a painful transition

fallen epoch
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pHelloKrill AFTER THEM, MY PRETTY!

ember temple
fallen epoch
livid valley
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oh no

lyric isle
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their fearsome organic bodies

livid valley
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you cut the krill into sushi

lyric isle
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hhhhhh

fallen epoch
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Voluntary, do you want some lemonade?

lyric isle
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sushi is possible they don’t taste like metal they’re not metal

ember temple
lyric isle
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Yes please

fallen epoch
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...But they live in toxic sludge

ember temple
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Bugkid's a meanie pAngry

fallen epoch
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YOU STOLE MY LEMONADE

ember temple
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No I didn't stickerNoThanks

lyric isle
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I’d say their machinery would be able to survive that, but they’re not machinery

fallen epoch
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Some lemonade, just for you, voluntary c: CapeYellow

lyric isle
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thank

fallen epoch
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That's totally lemonade, by the way XD

ember temple
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I made my own lemonade to share and you're accusing me of stealing yours?

queen locust
queen locust
lyric isle
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the majority of my lore is collapsed so uh

ember temple
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I keep on thinking krills are skykids with their light snuffed out, and they try to attack normal skykids cause they're desperate for their light back

queen locust
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Butters is gonna have a field day

lyric isle
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so much of my lore is gone

queen locust
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that's... i can't tell if you mean that one krill is one skid or if the krill is an amalgamation of several skids

spring blaze
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for me krills are corrupted light creatures

lyric isle
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at least the spirit stuff remains

fallen epoch
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Hey Voluntary, do you know what would make you feel better?

spring blaze
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i mean the game is all up to interpretation

bitter shale
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Someone selling lemonade now? pEyes

queen locust
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Morning Flos

lyric isle
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well some of the spirit stuff is still there but some somewhat developed ideas about krill manufacturing will never see the light of day

bitter shale
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Morning SkyLOL

fallen epoch
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Check my big spoiler tag up above, Floshie

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It is super secret

lyric isle
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they just can’t be organic why do they sound the way they do

fallen epoch
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don't tell the devs

lyric isle
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WHY DO THEY SOUND THE WAY THEY DO

queen locust
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Voluntary's grief is kind of making me think though- because Butters once had this theory about the Elders being the Five Stages of Grief

bitter shale
queen locust
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Now that Shock and Testing are in the mix

fallen epoch
lyric isle
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HOW CAN THE EYE JUST SHIFT

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Cybernetic stuff

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cybernetic stuff

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denial is fun

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I wonder how frustrated I’ll get later

fallen epoch
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It isn't healthy though

urban ginkgo
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Maybe krills sound mechanical because they have armored plates for an exoskeleton that may be caked with ooze to make it more clanky? Idk
also I think crabs might be able to move their eyes like that but idk either

lyric isle
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ye

fallen epoch
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And it doesn't seem like true denial

lyric isle
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I don’t know anymore

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so many of my theories are dead

queen locust
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it kinda sounds like Bargaining at first but then you kind of looped back into Denial

lyric isle
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The stages aren’t linear

queen locust
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They ain't indeed

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You skipped Anger somehow

lyric isle
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that’s just a rough map, it’s the main emotions you’ll just feel

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but kind of a rough order

fallen epoch
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Voluntary, Would you like to get on sky with me soon?

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🙂

lyric isle
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mayhaps

fallen epoch
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We can hang out

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And I'll make you feel better

queen locust
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anyway- before I get any more insensitive- do you want to talk about smthn else

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smthn to just- take your mind off the grief for a sec

lyric isle
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so many of my theories are dead or damaged so what do I do

fallen epoch
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Virdi, come join us on Sky!

lyric isle
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help me

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help me build

queen locust
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hang out with Bugkid I guess I have a quiz-

fallen epoch
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Voluntary, come with me on sky

lyric isle
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Alrighty, send QR

fallen epoch
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Virdi, you coming?

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Or no

lone jackal
#

Random Thoughts about the lore of the game, but back then a year ago or two ( since i used to be a beta player lol ) I used to theorize maybe the game is about human civilization and after everything that went wrong in certain events ( i didn't know how to describe this ) it turned into some sort of unfinished afterlife or purgatory

But now I'm just :/ lol

rapid juniper
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Hm

short owl
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You know, natural creatures made of metal is not off the table

rapid juniper
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Yes

queen locust
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That's still natural by some accounts-

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Like- they could be a sort of natural golem or smthn

bitter shale
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What if sky people purposely give them metal body-

queen locust
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Natural- if the Ancestors had no hand whatsoever in their construction

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because by then they wouldn't be organic

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then again the timeline displayed in Prophecy isn't really all that set- maybe it isn't as ancient as we took it for, but I'm grasping at straws there

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That it was described as presenting the origins of the Kingdom makes this interpretation iffy

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But when we look at the murals again, it looks as though they already have a military in place, with Wasteland Elder at the helm

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So it's not unreasonable to think that there must have been SOME kind of war that they were going to- or preparing for

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That the last mural looks as complete as it does and presents the Kingdom of Sky in what looked like its peak is somewhat telling of how much time must have passed

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I mean- we have Vault in place, a complete structure of Eden, and even the Valley's flying races

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It's wholly possible that the power diamonds are much more ancient of a craft than we took it for

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Advanced enough to construct Vault and control the beam of Ascension and while I still don't wholly agree that krill are mechanical

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@lyric isle -there's still some kind of hope for it

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plus the krill being presented in exactly one place in all of the murals in Prophecy- the last one, where the Kingdom is at it's best- is kind of telling

neat bane
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Holdup is "the fall" after the event of eden's diamond? Or before?

queen locust
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The fall I think is more of a pyramid where they experienced the peak first

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And then just slid down and culminated in the Eden diamond exploding

lethal stump
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« the fall » refers to either when the elders fell or when the kingdom fell, it changes depending on the context of the discussion

queen locust
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Yeah that too-

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anyway I might have looked into the timeline placement of Prophecy a little too much

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My sentiment still stands though- power diamonds are an ancient craft-

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well semi-ancient with regards to Prophecy

neat bane
queen locust
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Oh that fall-

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I saw a theory here once where that intro cutscene is out of order- and that the fall of the Elders referred to them falling from grace after Eden instead of before

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i.e. instead of falling from somewhere like say- Orbit

neat bane
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Ooh, interesting

queen locust
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I can't do that theory any justice since Butters came up with it and I suck at retelling others' theories-

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but that was generally the gist of it

neat bane
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I see I see, thanks a bunch!

vocal ore
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I still can't think of how the Vault and Forest elder are possibly related, i wanted to figure this out myself but I just can't-

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There's no other information to go on about them other than that they both use diamonds and have similar masks

queen locust
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Lmao mostly I just think the relation was that the diamonds in their cutscenes are the same diamond

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Like you know how Forest Elder fixes a diamond in her cutscene

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And by the time we get to Vault Elder we have another diamond that she uses to project murals

neat bane
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That's true, and with both using the diamonds I've always assumed they at least knew each other to talk about er... Business(?)

vocal ore
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So the relation is that they're business partners?

queen locust
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All of the Elders know each other

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They've come from the same place

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Whether or not their connections extend further than business is debatable tho

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Other than the Twins and their fraternal relation anyway

bitter shale
teal orbit
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ok folks the full version of the symbiote theory

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there`s the doc

queen locust
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Aight thanks Pyre

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i'm in class but honestly I'll take anything over cinematography-

teal orbit
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haha

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the alternative is fake biology

neat bane
teal orbit
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tsadi and teth?

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prob stickerShy

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i like to think

lethal stump
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the way i see the elders are like a family tbh

teal orbit
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and the prince is...

bitter shale
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Lamed and Teth already confirmed to have a... connection?

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Like

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Canon doc

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Idk the word aa

queen locust
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an insane family where GW Elder had to deal with the Twins for an entire era because they shared a realm once-

lethal stump
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« their masks are similar because they are related » is the phrasing

teal orbit
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bricky? wut dya think abt the symbiote theory

icy spruce
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ye

bitter shale
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Ah yes related

lethal stump
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i haven’t read it yet

bitter shale
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Thankies bricky

queen locust
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I brought up the diamond earlier but other than that I'm stumped-

teal orbit
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imma put it in the theory vault

lethal stump
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stumped regarding what ? the relation of the elders ?

icy spruce
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O-

queen locust
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You could say that ye

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Specifically between Vault and Forest Elder

teal orbit
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u read the symbiote theory @icy spruce ?

icy spruce
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no, I just lurked right now

vocal ore
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Idk about you guys but i definitely don't wear matching clothes or things reassembling theirs with my relatives just because we're related

icy spruce
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well, some people does (prolly)

queen locust
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Design choices- makes it easier to distinguish if we're talking meta

vocal ore
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That sounds more like a, uniformed thing

queen locust
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a uniform I'm-

icy spruce
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hhh

queen locust
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Megan: I've made children and I have also made matching uniforms and yOU WILL LIKE IT-

icy spruce
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yES

vocal ore
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LMAO

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The twins:

neat bane
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I've always thought that they were simply... Idk, tasked? Like the elders are ministers and the king is the president or something

lethal stump
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the way i see it
the elders were gods, created « oldest » (isle) to « youngest » (valley), CoL notwithstanding
they spent a while together in orbit, with megabird as a « mother » figure of sorts, and from that time they developed a family bond. i used to ship elders, but once i started seeing them more and more as related i was like « nahhhhhhhhhh »

icy spruce
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ok

lethal stump
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~~now i ship spirits pFIRE ~~

icy spruce
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I- what

teal orbit
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prince is somehow in the center....

queen locust
icy spruce
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prince, the spoiled youngest sibling

lethal stump
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i see the prince as a child they raised together, although isle was probably the prince’s main caretaker

lethal stump
icy spruce
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I- w h a t

queen locust
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dm me about ship a n y t h i n g

icy spruce
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w h a t

livid valley
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wh

vocal ore
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wait whay

neat bane
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Oh my-

icy spruce
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I- anyways, I'll just uhhh * commits Eden *

vocal ore
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oh ok can't say that then

bitter shale
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Hmmm

The prince being raised by the elders... maybe the next season will be about that but from different perspective with different actors?

It takes a village...

vocal ore
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Admiring Actor big Teth fanboy

bitter shale
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Yess

queen locust
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the guy waxes poetic about her being a star that's the best thing ever

bitter shale
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I ship my oc with my other oc is that okay-

icy spruce
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w h a t

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I mean, ye I guess-

lethal stump
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i regret bringing up ships, let’s move on from the subject SkyFaint

icy spruce
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yes, before we drink another glass of water

teal orbit
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symbiote theory

icy spruce
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yes

bitter shale
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Pyre you send the link three times already-

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Calm down

teal orbit
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read, then QnA session

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im so excited

queen locust
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OKAY so- I still retain my misgivings about the butterflies being a whole artificial species

icy spruce
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ok

bitter shale
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Butterflies maybe just light but having a physical form?

teal orbit
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that was not the theory....

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its a smol discussion abt it

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nvm

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the prairie elder transforms the fire into the butterflies...

vocal ore
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ngl i thought the elders were the bad guys at first thanks to Ayin's first impression-

livid valley
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in the future prarie will be flooded with butterflies

vocal ore
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"Sir what are you doing? siR WHY ARE YOU CRUSHING MY LIGHT AAAA"

queen locust
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"get inside the pot Baxter"

icy spruce
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w-WhY

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I-

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At this point, I'm gonna commit Eden again-

rose gorge
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prairie elder looks so huggable and soft i trusted them immediately pWow

livid valley
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make more butterflies so we can make more diamonds

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;DDD

vocal ore
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Isle was immediating to me at first

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I've only stopped thinking that the elders were the bad guys when i met the twins

queen locust
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morse code intensifies

rose gorge
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my first time watching the elder cutscenes I was just confused and didn’t understand who they were and what they were doing

icy spruce
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wh-

rose gorge
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all I comprehended was “tall people stand in front of me, do cool things”

teal orbit
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okok bacc to symbiotes..... plz?

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i rlly wanna talk abt it....

vocal ore
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-scary oldbroken mask guy
-Giant guy crushing light
-Big woman snatches my flame

livid valley
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what

queen locust
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Anyway- Pyre quick question, was the theory made simply to have a better sort of distinction between the creatures

icy spruce
vocal ore
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is fine

teal orbit
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this theory is the first step in a new sky creature classification system

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ok imma post a text wall...

livid valley
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:/

icy spruce
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oh yay, text wall

queen locust
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man why'd you have to remind me taxonomy is one of my credits

short owl
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There's a nonzero chance that all our skykid sees is "Strange tall people doing strange things but letting me move forward so that's cool"

livid valley
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:0

queen locust
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gentle husks of light and clay just imitating spirits like the children they are-

sinful anvil
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thats what i relate w skykids

queen locust
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that's a weird combination of morbid and wholesome

sinful anvil
#

(imagine skykids learning asl)

short owl
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Problem

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No fingers

sinful anvil
#

then au we have fingers?

lyric isle
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Glamim-vessels much

queen locust
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ASL but it's advanced morse code that just comprises of honking

sinful anvil
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another problem

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idk whether skykids can learn or they’re just imitating whatever they see

vocal ore
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Are the spirits normally visible like that? Or does skids have some psychic powers to just see ghosts?

queen locust
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hey yeah they technically could learn morse code

sinful anvil
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so like parrotspeak

livid valley
icy spruce
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yes

sinful anvil
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to learn is actually applying whatever you see and add variety to the body of knowledge, so its a bit complex

icy spruce
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but that's a finger-

short owl
#

Perhaps our emotes are a form of SL, since we need to have a standardized (through Spirits) system of communicatioon that relies entirely on the parts of the body that we do have

lyric isle
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I once had this crackpot idea for tonal honk language

queen locust
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h j o n k

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They do have social capacity though- going by that shiny boi interaction in Eden

sinful anvil
#

oH

vocal ore
#

Kinda odd how the only thing of recording history that we have in Sky are just murals

queen locust
#

Despite not learning how to hug or hold hands with spirits

sinful anvil
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when the isle elder nodded and skykid nodded back...
do they actually know or just mimicking what is socially expected?

livid valley
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mitten hands

vocal ore
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No hint of Sky used to have actual writing and languages

livid valley
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:(((

icy spruce
#

yes

livid valley
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why mitten

sinful anvil
#

what if sky does not have textual language but depends on visuals entirely?

lyric isle
#

all I want is to be able to hug spirits

livid valley
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is it lessens the complexity

icy spruce
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Well, there is the mask- that has writings-

sinful anvil
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come on it couldnt be. skykids have hands!!

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in my canon they do

icy spruce
#

headcanon

queen locust
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imagine hugging dead people

vocal ore
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oh yeah

queen locust
#

Oh wait Voluntary you're here- there's hope for your krill mechs

vocal ore
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Oh no now I'm justified imagine a person wearing a mask irl with just alot of words written onto it

icy spruce
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I mean- some people do that-

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irl

livid valley
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the purge

sinful anvil
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(unrelated so in brackets- forever fascinated w the idea of skykids irl bc imagine meeting a kid looking no older than 10 but wearing a mask with glowing eyes and an outfit that is too cold for the weather)

icy spruce
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But we're talking about Sky where anything happens :DD

vocal ore
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scribbles "UwU" onto Vault's mask

lyric isle
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tell me how there is

queen locust
#

hold on I went over that earlier

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Natural- if the Ancestors had no hand whatsoever in their construction
because by then they wouldn't be organic
then again the timeline displayed in Prophecy isn't really all that set- maybe it isn't as ancient as we took it for, but I'm grasping at straws there
That it was described as presenting the origins of the Kingdom makes this interpretation iffy
But when we look at the murals again, it looks as though they already have a military in place, with Wasteland Elder at the helm
So it's not unreasonable to think that there must have been SOME kind of war that they were going to- or preparing for
That the last mural looks as complete as it does and presents the Kingdom of Sky in what looked like its peak is somewhat telling of how much time must have passed
I mean- we have Vault in place, a complete structure of Eden, and even the Valley's flying races
It's wholly possible that the power diamonds are much more ancient of a craft than we took it for
Advanced enough to construct Vault and control the beam of Ascension and while I still don't wholly agree that krill are mechanical
@Voluntary has Ascended -there's still some kind of hope for it
plus the krill being presented in exactly one place in all of the murals in Prophecy- the last one, where the Kingdom is at it's best- is kind of telling

pastel brookBOT
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the future is already written bruh...

lyric isle
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I’m preparing to make the possibly painful transition

icy spruce
bitter shale
queen locust
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This whole block of text

lyric isle
#

“All creatures are born naturally”

sinful anvil
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so vault mask is like “abcdefghijklmnop”? jk

lyric isle
#

what am I supposed to do

icy spruce
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idk

teal orbit
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ok m bacc

icy spruce
#

Hi Bacc

bitter shale
queen locust
teal orbit
icy spruce
lyric isle
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if all creatures are said to be born naturally krill aren’t machines, quod erat demonstratum

vocal ore
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Imagine what they're writing on Vault's mask "she is very coolio praise her"

lyric isle
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I’m struggling to accept it but slowly reluctantly am

bitter shale
queen locust
#

So while WHOLLY artificial krill are impossible, cyborgs aren't necessarily off the table

teal orbit
livid valley
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hi world

icy spruce
#
  • laughs in always thinking that krills are natural *
lyric isle
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ok yeah, it is right then

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never mind

queen locust
#

it's hecking iffy though considering how far I've stretched the entire timeline

teal orbit
#

ok i gotta go

queen locust
#

Aight bye Bacc

teal orbit
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plz PLZ read the symbiote doc

lyric isle
#

[distant Lv 5 crying noises]

icy spruce
#

Ok, bye Bacc

#

Yes

livid valley
#

bye bacc

queen locust
#

oof- group activities

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brb

icy spruce
#

And now, lore chat got krilled

icy spruce
#

ok

teal orbit
#

thx

#

i rlly gotta go now

icy spruce
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no problemo

#

ok, bye Bacc

#

Have a great day

lyric isle
#

being krilled feels a lot less fun knowing it’s confirmed not to be by destructive machines built as terror weapons

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fun idea but

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gone

icy spruce
#

ye :((

lyric isle
#

reduced to nothing but a happy memory thinking of it

bitter shale
#

who confirmed it aaaaaa

Plz i need to know when and where and by who-

queen locust
#

The mechanical aspect is still valid even if I disagree with it

bitter shale
icy spruce
#

I think it was in the canon doc 'bout them being naturals-

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Not sure though-

sinful anvil
#

but for me i dont believe krills are evil because darkness is not inherently evil in the game. so krills can be born to be evil but made? probably

lyric isle
#

I enjoy(ed) the idea of the krill being built to be destructive
probably attacking the side that built them too at points but they couldn’t sort that out

bitter shale
#

What if they are trained to be evil?

queen locust
#

Iffy but not impossible

icy spruce
#

ye

vocal ore
#

Krills and dark worms seem to have very bad sensibility

#

Crabs are different however, they spot us pretty easily

queen locust
#

assuming dark worms even exist outside of the trial at all

sinful anvil
#

they are destructive? good
they are born to be destructive? bad (unless u say that is breeded)

lyric isle
#

“tempests are krill fuel”
that was a joke but even that joke is gone

queen locust
#

heck I'd argue the dark worms are even more mechanical than krill

icy spruce
#

me too

lyric isle
#

I had the idea for crabs being drones once but no

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that’s gone

icy spruce
#

They're just...there-

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the dark worms

livid valley
#

imagine its just a drone shooting out dust particles '

lyric isle
#

everything is ruined

icy spruce
#

lmao

vocal ore
#

Well i mean, Dark Worms and Krills never stray from their paths so

queen locust
#

crabs are deadly roombas

icy spruce
queen locust
#

they don't need knives to be deadly-

icy spruce
#

yes

bitter shale
#

Crabs being natural creature is makes more sense imo since crab grilling does exist

Like no one want to eat soemthing made of metal right-

icy spruce
#

ye

livid valley
icy spruce
#

I mean, who eats metal? (Iron at the background)

bitter shale
lyric isle
#

GiftProphecy
👐

#

this might help

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just to stare at it lovingly

queen locust
#

I can't it's just a Fox jesus head on two Jesus hands

lyric isle
#

f o x j e s u s

#

that’s the best name I’ve ever heard for it I’m crying

bitter shale
#

Lmao chesca-

queen locust
#

jesus no pls don't take me yet

icy spruce
#

AAAAA, DISCORD

#

Y?

#

:((

queen locust
#

i have so much to live for-

lyric isle
livid valley
#

oh no its a meteorite

queen locust
#

oh no it's the second coming

bitter shale
vast latch
#

Lämp

vocal ore
#

I'm pretty sure someone came up with a theory that a skid's physical body was made out of darkness and their soul light before

queen locust
#

Yyyyep

vast latch
#

The moth has ascended and became lämp itself

icy spruce
bitter shale
#

Can we all agree that eden is just a very big l ä m p ?

queen locust
#

is it skid biology time

icy spruce
lyric isle
#

all creatures are born naturally though so my skykid golem thing might be gone

vast latch
#

If it's a lamp it's a very deadly one

livid valley
queen locust
#

Does a skid qualify as a creature

lyric isle
#

are skids considered creatures

icy spruce
#

hhhhh

lyric isle
#

if skykid golem is gone I give up

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I quit lore

queen locust
#

Heck they fell from the same place as the Elders and while THEY could be born naturally

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skids are w e i r d

icy spruce
bitter shale
lyric isle
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all creatures are born naturally

icy spruce
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HHhhhhhh

lyric isle
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it ruined a lot of my theories

queen locust
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so am I- you can pry the golems out of my cold dead theorizing hands

bitter shale
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are skid counted as cretaure

vocal ore
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germs are natural too

sinful anvil
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which propoganda do u want, megan or king

lyric isle
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let’s see how many more it can

sinful anvil
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meganda or kinganda

icy spruce
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I-

queen locust
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mEG AN D A I'M-

icy spruce
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hA

bitter shale
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meganda sounds like wakanda

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meganda forever

queen locust
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because I'm filipino I can read that as 'me beautiful'

rose gorge
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meganda forever

icy spruce
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Meganda sounds like Me Ganda

sinful anvil
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im this close to renaming myself palekinganda

icy spruce
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Which means, me beautiful in Filipino-

lyric isle
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Radiance bad, reject unity

queen locust
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IT DOES IT REALLY DOES I CAN'T TAKE IT SERIOUSLY AHJHAJAHSJHA

rose gorge
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you are all beautiful stickerHeart

vocal ore
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Do you think there's more elders in the Sky universe than the 7 we were shown ingame?

sinful anvil
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i didnt realize its that funny lmao

queen locust
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pa l e king beautiful

sinful anvil
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moreover how does sky astronomy work

icy spruce
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I-

vocal ore
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o h

livid valley
icy spruce
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I mean, there might be more elders (since constellations represents elders, right?)

lyric isle
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I wonder how many more theories ‘all creatures are born naturally’ can destroy

let’s play that fair game with the shooting balloons with water jets

livid valley
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i guess.

lyric isle
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but balloons are my theories

queen locust
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Voluntary pls I know you're upset but isn't it about time that you started thinking about I don't know- using that to your advantage

lyric isle
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what advantage

queen locust
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No clue- which is why I'm leaving it up to pretty much everyone else here-

teal orbit
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ok folks im bacc

livid valley
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hi bacc im dad

lyric isle
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correct

queen locust
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Besides, like I said before cyborgs aren't COMPLETELY off the table

vast latch
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Hi bacc

teal orbit
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ok im sure u have a lotta questions abt the symbiote theory

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and possibly a lotta rebuttals too

vocal ore
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There's billions of stars in the sky but we only got to know 7

icy spruce
teal orbit
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im here to answer and explain them all

queen locust
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i don't really have much of anything concerning the symbiote theory really-

teal orbit
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rlly?

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its good?

lyric isle
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I can’t question your theory, I need to clean up the rubbish pile of my broken theories first

teal orbit
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oh and regarding the butterflies

lyric isle
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I can’t accept this yet

queen locust
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I'm just kind accepting that MAYBE we need more classification systems concerning the creatures

icy spruce
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I agree with your theory and I don't have any questions about it (for now, prolly)

queen locust
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since it's your field and everything Pyre

lyric isle
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well krill aren’t machines that’s sorted

teal orbit
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virdi doesnt think they r not alive
and if this is the case, i have a whole new way of explaining that to the sybiote theory

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the butterflies

sinful anvil
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(i mean irl constellations are actually made up so we can easily identify stars, so in sky there might b infinite constellations. and there are more planets in orbit credits so anything may be possible)

lyric isle
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I’ll just force myself out to avoid getting too angry

queen locust
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no i do not in fact think that the butterflies are all artificial

sinful anvil
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(so mayyyybe somewhere out here there’s a prince-like star governing their own elder without the eden tragedy)

lyric isle
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goodbye for now, will only return once calmer

queen locust
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Aight see ya Voluntary- hope you calm down

lyric isle
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what are you talking about nothing’s artificial

everything’s natural

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ye goodbye I need a rest

icy spruce
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Byee, and hope you get better once you cooled down :DD

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Anyways- * virtual pats SkyHeadpat *

teal orbit
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ok so butterflies DO sneeze calls so if they r light creatures they have sparks...
some more stuff:
when we deep call we overload the butterlfies and they get hot and they come to us to give bacc the sparks that we gave them (cuz they have small storage space)
and they rub into us and push us up collectively
butterfly charming is like putting jam in a jar but the jam is our sparks and the fly is the butterfly...
like feeding
the isle elder maybe putting the light next to the eggs
so im saying butterfly eggs r like dragon eggs...
they only hatch in extreme temperatures
so our candle is wuts need ed for the butterfly to grow...
like food+grow up trigger

queen locust
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i'm- now I'm even more confused

teal orbit
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butterflies have a call too

rapid juniper
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Ooo there should be a butterfly call

icy spruce
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yesss

teal orbit
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yknow wut, the theory i made just now is so cool, im gonna subscribe to "butterflies r alive" too

icy spruce
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I-

rapid juniper
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I’m going to wishlist and ideas

teal orbit
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ik that was narccisistic

vast latch
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I am confused but go on pyre

queen locust
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i mean- I'm glad you're happy with your theory I guess?

vast latch
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I'm sure I will understand after a while

teal orbit
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so basically butterflies have calls too

icy spruce
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Ye, if you hear closely

vocal ore
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what

teal orbit
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so it would make sense if butterflies were alive

icy spruce
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You can hear like high pitched giggles

queen locust
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They're like tiny giggling girls ngl- the butterfly calls I mean

teal orbit
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the call im talking abt is the visible "sneeze" part of the call

icy spruce
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Very cute

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I like butterfly calls

queen locust
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are butterflies Japanese schoolgirls

vast latch
icy spruce
teal orbit
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duds.. there r 2 parts in a light creature`s call:
the real sound, and the spark distributing sneeze

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i cover this in the doc

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butterflies do the sneeze

queen locust
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my take away from the sneeze part was that holy christ mantas sneeze hard enough to yeet us into Temples

teal orbit
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which is all we need to say butterflies have sparks in em too

icy spruce
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huh

queen locust
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they do call periodically I'll give you that-

icy spruce
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huh

queen locust
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Like any other living creature that produces sound yes

teal orbit
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little amounts of sparks leak away all the time and we call that charging our light

rapid juniper
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Yes

teal orbit
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then there is larger migrations of sparks that r so huge we can see them

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and those r callls

rapid juniper
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Oh you changed your name lol

icy spruce
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yeah

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they did

queen locust
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Bacc's name is a dad joke

icy spruce
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Yes

rapid juniper
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Yes

icy spruce
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anyways, lore

bitter shale
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manta is pog

rapid juniper
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Yes

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Wait

icy spruce
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ok

bitter shale
icy spruce
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pogchamp

bitter shale
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what does the bird eat tho

rapid juniper
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Seeds

bitter shale
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we see the bird whisperer feed the bird

icy spruce
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no idea

rapid juniper
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Seeds

icy spruce
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flowers????

bitter shale
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light seeds pEyes

rapid juniper
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Or worms

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Light worms

icy spruce
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w ha t

lyric isle
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I’m calmer now, but will only engage in topics not anything to do with krill or centred around creatures for a while

icy spruce
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ok

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Hi Calmer Now

lyric isle
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to avoid getting angry again

sinful anvil
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are there other elders or princes/princesses out there

icy spruce
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And there's lots of constellations in orbit

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So eh-

sinful anvil
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what if there are other types of skykids

fallen epoch
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@sinful anvil We can't prove anything like that, so I'd just put a pin in it :p

icy spruce
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but it's possible (prolly-)

queen locust
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I mean- define other types of skids like

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Made of light, made of dark or smthn smthn

sinful anvil
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ie descendants who are not like us

queen locust
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There's the Fallen- subtly different from us

sinful anvil
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our theme is balance of light and dark, there might b other themes

queen locust
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And that one skid from the spirit memory from way back who I'm convinced is a skid prototype

short owl
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We can't prove anything, so i'd run with that theory until I develop some convoluted story around it that ends in Megan being evil

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but that's just me

sinful anvil
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gods being evil is just .. no, in my case

queen locust
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gods being human- sort of in my book

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human- as in, flawed, imperfect beings far from the glorified perfections that they decidedly aren't