#lore-discussion-spoilers

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queen locust
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So when we get to that last stage do we deworm the dworms

keen kettle
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Dedworm

median stone
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Smogon

thin dirge
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Wait, I remembered something-

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Didn't Worms technically made similar sounds to Krill?

median stone
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Ouhhhhh

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Yeshh

keen kettle
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Maybe a little...

median stone
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Grrmmmmmmmmmmm

queen locust
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Kinda? The sounds sent chills down my spine if that's what you're referring to lmao

keen kettle
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Some rocks make similar sounds to krill. pPopcorn

thin dirge
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I theorized Krills were pretty much similar to Worms

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Made by the Orange Light

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From Prophecy

median stone
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Yeeeeeee

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Two orange light combined

keen kettle
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I am inclined to believe that dworms are methaphysical manifestations in mind.

median stone
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Yes

thin dirge
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Worms are like, proto-krills

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But more like a Krill at their true form?

keen kettle
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Thats a SkyNoThanks from me.

median stone
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Just to make it similar in dark world

queen locust
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Couldn't it be that the Worms were diluted versions that the Fire Prophet came up with?

pastel brookBOT
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Psst hey @queen locust, I heard there's a prophet somewhere that's very shy, but you didn't hear it from me pPopcorn

queen locust
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Like- we know Krill existed back then

thin dirge
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Wow, thats an interesting coincidence from skybot

queen locust
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Likely it was the most terrifying thing to them at the time-

keen kettle
queen locust
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i live for the shy Fire chonk

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anyway-

keen kettle
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Eeeh... well, protecc fire chonk.

median stone
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I'm just sure that smogon is a same thing as krill

keen kettle
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Weird filters...

queen locust
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Ikr

median stone
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It just in dream world transform to smoky

queen locust
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It keeps me from swearing my usual amount tho

median stone
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As our dreams also usually appear in smoky atmosphere

keen kettle
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I got filtered with "all is well" in game. Go figure.

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My dreams are crystal clear.

queen locust
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Sometimes the filters take mercy on me and let me swear

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Twice-

keen kettle
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Haha!

queen locust
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Fire Prophet taking inspiration from the krill kinda makes me think he was looking for things to put into the trials- and the guy was meticulous if he'd pinned down as many similarities as he did

pastel brookBOT
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I haven't been this scared since my creator got stuck in someone's basement stickerCold

queen locust
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i worry for your creator sometimes skybot

keen kettle
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Same.

queen locust
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well- creators

median stone
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Skybot have some hidden secret clue for us I think

queen locust
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Nah, skybot's not really integral to lore

median stone
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Just like riddle maybe

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Haaahahaha

keen kettle
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Skybot is the king

queen locust
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They're either too vague or they're just telling us to charge our phones

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Plus stuff like 'not trusting the Elders' is kind of the go-to for all of us at this point lmao

median stone
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But I'm not understand why basement?

queen locust
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Elders were always sus

neat fractal
keen kettle
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Must be connected to the lore. pPopcorn

neat fractal
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OH I FORGOT ABOUT THAT-SkyLOL

median stone
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I guess the creator stuck in the basement mean that he is trapped in cave of prophecy as the old cave that were covered by the clouds

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Don't mind me

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I'm just explore my mind

queen locust
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Old Man Isle's basement

shadow star
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Wow thats kinda cool 👀

keen kettle
queen locust
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Idk I've always just assumed the Cave was somewhere beneath the Isle Temple's basement-

median stone
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Yeh

queen locust
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So Isle Elder over here's just managing his five prophet children like 'okay so go crazy but not too crazy'

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'the fate of the Kingdom is at stake do you all hear me-'

keen kettle
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Beefy kingdom

queen locust
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god I still have class tomorrow-

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I better sneep- goodnight guys, have fun

keen kettle
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Sneep well, Vir!

wanton pulsar
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hey would someone link that one doc with introduction to sky lore?

wanton pulsar
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thank ya!

bitter shale
gentle sparrow
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Wait- The 3rd one isn't the Theory Vault it's the moff doc again pEyes

lethal stump
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yep

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but those are also in the pins, aside from the lore moff doc

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ive been trying to get it pinned but had no feedback from mods

undone harbor
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Ok so the prophecy caves is on top of home space
Haven't tried the trials yet

icy spruce
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what

dense kindle
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There are no living people in Sky Children of the Light other than literally 6 elders and skykids... why is everybody dead?

median stone
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Ok so the prophecy caves is on top of home space
Haven't tried the trials yet
@undone harbor emm what?

On top of home space????
It is in Isle of dawn right?

icy spruce
median stone
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There are no living people in Sky Children of the Light other than literally 6 elders and skykids... why is everybody dead?
@dense kindle

Some said because of the diamond explosionpPopcorn

icy spruce
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Also, elders are not dead nor alive

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They're in limbo

dense kindle
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That’s depressing

icy spruce
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Are you new to lore? :]

median stone
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Uuuuuu Hotel Del luna or Goblin reference....

Paying for their sins.... Spending all of your life there

dense kindle
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👀

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Perhaps

icy spruce
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hhhhh

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ok

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Sooooo, what now-

dense kindle
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Well new to this channel no sky

icy spruce
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Oh

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NEW LORE MOFF ALERT

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UNLEASH THE DOCSS

dense kindle
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😂

median stone
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Actually is it really they were in da limbo now?

dense kindle
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Bruh

icy spruce
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Ye, I think it was found in the canon lore doc

median stone
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They can disappear just like ghoat

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Ouh

icy spruce
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Yes

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Ghoat

median stone
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Hahahaha sorryy

icy spruce
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That's ok

median stone
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Anyway this is fantasy game they can be whatever they want

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They are ghoat stuck in da limbo

icy spruce
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I-

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And not a lot of lore are like---revealed

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So your theories might be canon or not---unless the devs debunked it then idk-

dense kindle
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Swell

icy spruce
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I-

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Anyways, have ya read the pins?

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You can take your time since this chat is kinda sneeping.

dense kindle
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In progress

icy spruce
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Oh ok

hushed steeple
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Idk if this has been considered before or pointed out but- capes are made of light as they don’t ever appear in the kids shadow h

icy spruce
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Ye

primal verge
proper mirage
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this may be just a model glitch but... theres a diamond shape on the chibis back pEyes

dense kindle
icy spruce
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Don't think that's a model glitch

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Since there were some topics about that

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And some theories

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You can see it on your skid (I think) when you're capeless

proper mirage
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well i aint gonna be the one to get krilled a ton to find out lol

icy spruce
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Lol

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Try eden then

hushed steeple
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Perhaps the diamond on a skid's back is a birthmark

icy spruce
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Perhaps

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But it's on the clothes

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So uh-

hushed steeple
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So is the light in our chest

icy spruce
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true

proper mirage
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notice the slight bumps

icy spruce
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o-

hushed steeple
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Ye, birthmark imo

keen kettle
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Looking under skids Cape? aaaahhEyes

hushed steeple
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Khxisgidhigs

proper mirage
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for some reason tho its only on the non-seasonal clothes

icy spruce
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I-

keen kettle
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Tsk tsk tsk.

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Diamonds are refered as artifical stars btw?

icy spruce
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I don't think so (?)

keen kettle
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No like in concept art, they are.

icy spruce
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Oh, didn't see that

keen kettle
icy spruce
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ohh ye

spring blaze
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i think the markings on the clothes were from beta where the light in your chest was in that shape

hushed steeple
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o

spring blaze
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just a lil beta funfact for yall SkyLOL

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the front matched the back

lethal stump
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where was that

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looks like isle ? prairie ?

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possssibly vault ?

stoic stirrup
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idk gives off a forest vibe
it could be isle temple but not sandy area
prairie too bright for that, but might be temple i guess

spring blaze
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it’s isle! this was wayy, WAYY back in the super early isle days

stoic stirrup
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Ooh

spring blaze
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(credits to shira for the picture)

stoic stirrup
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i see

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that area looks so cool, i wonder what's up the stairs

lethal stump
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prelaunch had so much more cool king stuff SkyCry SkyCry SkyCry

spring blaze
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iirc its the temple, so you’re seeing the elder shrine which suspiciously looks like the king than the isle elder

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poor gramps wasnt represented from the start

lethal stump
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rip grampa

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oh well, we love grampa now !

stoic stirrup
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prairie dad and wasteland uncle still my favs :3

lethal stump
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vault is my fav for angst stickerShiny

hoary violet
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meme about you guys (shrunk it down so it doesn’t interrupt the conversation too much)

livid yarrow
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Hey I was thinking... I love these theories but sometimes it’s hard to find where the theory starts and where it ends!!stickerGloomy

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What to do?

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Wait

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I have idea

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What if we did like a large ⏸️ emoji to symbolize the start of a new theory! That way we can be more organized!!pWow stickerUmm is this okay?

lean fox
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I can apply this to when i talk about my theories and musings

livid yarrow
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Yea!!

lean fox
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It seems very useful actually

livid yarrow
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ThxstickerHeart

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Like this:

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⏸️

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I have a theory about wasteland

lean fox
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I am listening 👁👁

livid yarrow
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One it was thriving like valley but darkness spread from the king and Eden to wasteland. Economics plummeted, there was crime and pollution. Crabs went from a nuisance to a threat. Krill turned dark.

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The elder paniced

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He tried to evacuate the city through the ark

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But it was attacked by the king and his army

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Spirits- dead

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Animals-dead

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It was devastating

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Thoughts??

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I mean when you go into wasteland imagine it without darkness! Golden sand and beautiful temples! Manta and birds souring above! ⏸

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inner basalt
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May I have some pics of the king? I want to make a fanart but I kinda don’t know his appearance in details

livid yarrow
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Here hold on lemmy see...

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Sry I don’t have any!stickerGloomy

wild ridge
livid yarrow
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Oh wow!

lean fox
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thee are towers all over wasteland battle fiels

wild ridge
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yeah it’s the old layout of eden

livid yarrow
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I think I’ll use this too!

lean fox
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its mostly up to interpretation

livid yarrow
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Hehe

lean fox
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i like to think he has a long cape and halo

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i still have to design his feather display

livid yarrow
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I like this face tbh

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It’s fun to draw

frail hearth
livid yarrow
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Nice!

lean fox
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oh ho ho ho

queen locust
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Morning ya'll- what are we talkin' about-

livid yarrow
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The pic on the bottom left, I drew a sketch like that.

frail hearth
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this is probably the 727283829292929th time i save it but it always gets lost in the endless ocean that is my gallery

livid yarrow
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The king

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Wait guys!! For those who don’t know,

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I had an idea to organize the theory’s

hushed steeple
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My friends don't share my excitement over Sky's lore... Why... :'d

frail hearth
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mood

queen locust
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Don't we already have Theory Vault?

livid yarrow
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Just put this emoji when you start talking

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⏸️

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That way you can reread previous theory’s without confusion

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Ok are we starting theory’s about vault? Because I have about 50 thousand!!SkyLOL pWow

queen locust
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I mean- go ahead dude

livid yarrow
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Dudet

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Lol

lean fox
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u first then i shall share some of mine :

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gets out the popcorn

livid yarrow
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Ok so I think that vault is like a huge archive of info.

lean fox
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I WAS THINKING THE SAME THING

livid yarrow
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The elder is kinda like the librarian lol

lean fox
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mostly archives of memories souls and stuff

livid yarrow
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Each level contains info about different subjects

frail hearth
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i mean there is an area that's literally called archives

livid yarrow
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Those floating things are like capsules with info inside lol

queen locust
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Did we not already establish that Vault was pretty much like an open-source library of information

livid yarrow
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The shelves contain floating things

queen locust
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Heck what else could it have been-

livid yarrow
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SrypWow

queen locust
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That's okay- I still want to hear more tho

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The levels containing different subjects is new to me

livid yarrow
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Yeah I mean...

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Those hologram things with the constellations are like symbols that say: hello in this floor you will learn about the forest

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Does that make sense

lean fox
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it does

livid yarrow
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Good 😌

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I think I’ve always thought this way about vault subconsciously

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It just made sense to me

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Then that would make sense how at vault summit, there are statues of the different elders, I bet they each contributed info into the vault

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So that’s my theory basically

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Thoughts?

lean fox
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now what if those statues are inactive golems 👀

livid yarrow
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(Gasp)

lean fox
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considering i think all vault spirits are kabbalists

livid yarrow
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⏸️

lean fox
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i have never put much thought to the statues

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but thosethings being weaponized when the vault was attacked?

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so cool to me

livid yarrow
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They all seem like teachers and preachers

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The spirits

lean fox
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kabbalists are people who study jewish mysticism of the kabbala so its not far off that they are spiritualy inclined

livid yarrow
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Cool!

lean fox
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and a tree being present? tree of life >:D

livid yarrow
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That makes a lot of sense tbh

lean fox
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and its in the shape of trees of many tree of life murals in shuls ive been to

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like

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a very familiar shape

livid yarrow
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Mmmm

lean fox
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and stance being two legs close together? coincidence? i think not
since in prayer there are parts where one should have thier feet unseparated to resemble malachim who only have one leg

livid yarrow
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Mmmm

lean fox
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random burst of excited thought is concluded for now

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⏸️

livid yarrow
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👍

queen locust
willow shoal
icy spruce
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Hhhh

bitter silo
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Hello everyone

icy spruce
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hallo

bitter silo
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How is the lore goes now?

icy spruce
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what do you mean-?

bitter silo
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About the King theory

icy spruce
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Oh

bitter silo
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Does anyone have a theory for the candle?..

icy spruce
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The candle at the end of the orbit cutscene?

bitter silo
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Yes

icy spruce
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Oh, some says it represents Megan, some says it is the world Skids llve in and some---just says it's our skid soul or something. There isn't much theories about it so pardon me-

queen locust
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DUDE

icy spruce
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Beta contents

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ARE NOT ALLOWED

queen locust
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WE'RE NOT ALLOWED TO TALK ABOUT BETA

icy spruce
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BETA STAYS IN BETTAAAAAAA

bitter silo
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Oh ok

queen locust
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PLEASE DELETE THAT MESSAGE-

icy spruce
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Sorry 'bout that, some of us just go full on krill if someone mentions a beta spoiler.

bitter silo
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Done.. sorry

icy spruce
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We don't like Beta spoilers and that's ok.

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Are you, perhaps new too lore? Or no-?

bitter silo
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Well so wht about a concept?

icy spruce
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Ye

bitter silo
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I'm long not visiting

queen locust
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Concepts are very much allowed

bitter silo
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Well i was making a story

queen locust
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Beta isn't-

icy spruce
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Mhm

bitter silo
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So i need some stuff for reverences

icy spruce
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Unless it's old-old beta (aka when Sky Children of the Light wasn't named that Sky: light awaits), it's allowed.

bitter silo
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And i don't relate any king on sky.. cuz i don't seems to find strong clues about any king

icy spruce
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well, Sky's lore is not that much revealed (yet)

rapid juniper
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What happened

icy spruce
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Hmm, Jerix asked about King then the candle at the end of the cutscene then asked for some beta spoilers and then we go full on krill and uhh ye

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aaaa

rapid juniper
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Ohhh

bitter silo
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Lol

queen locust
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I swore I saw a red light flash when that happened-

bitter silo
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Then go beserk

rapid juniper
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Where

icy spruce
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I-

queen locust
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Sorry sorry-

icy spruce
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Lemme copy and paste

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Jerix asked about King then the candle at the end of the cutscene then asked for some beta spoilers and then we go full on krill and uhh ye

rapid juniper
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Ye

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Lmao

bitter silo
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Well i dont really ask for some

fast jasper
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wat happened

bitter silo
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I just ask if u knw about smthing

icy spruce
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I-

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LET ME JUST COPY AND PASTE

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Jerix asked about King then the candle at the end of the cutscene then asked for some beta spoilers and then we go full on krill and uhh ye

rapid juniper
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Yes lol

hushed steeple
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Yeah that

fast jasper
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o

hushed steeple
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They copy pasted three times dohhdoohdxmdj

icy spruce
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hhhhhhhhhh

bitter silo
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Actually only one person copy paste three times

hushed steeple
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Yeah

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Chesca

icy spruce
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Ye

hushed steeple
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They did

icy spruce
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anyways, L O R E

bitter silo
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Yeah.. so not much i guess

icy spruce
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Ye, hmmmm

rapid juniper
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WhTs the lore

icy spruce
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I-

queen locust
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We stopped at that Candle from Orbit right

icy spruce
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Ye

queen locust
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Cuz yeah we don't have much on that thing except that apparently the universe of Sky is in that candle

bitter silo
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Yeah candles

queen locust
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or at least that's what zooming out suggested

icy spruce
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yep

queen locust
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Zooming out and Megan's flash

rapid juniper
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Well candles are our hearts u can see when we have cand,es there’s a Heart in the middle

icy spruce
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Ye, wait what

hushed steeple
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The candle prob just represents our life source

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If that makes sense

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Idk how to explain

bitter silo
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Well tht last candles remind me of a famous quotes of Anne Frank

icy spruce
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Or just our light since when we loose our flaps, our candles aren't lit.

rapid juniper
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No like the money of sky candles

icy spruce
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Ohhh, the white one?

hushed steeple
rapid juniper
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There’s a heart on the. Midllle

icy spruce
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You mean the white candle?

rapid juniper
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Yes

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Lmao

bitter silo
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I think the devs is leaving a message for us

icy spruce
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The candle when you try too steal a corpse's clothes.

bitter silo
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With tht candle

rapid juniper
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YEs

icy spruce
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Ye, that's the one

bitter silo
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At the end

icy spruce
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Yeeeeeeeee

rapid juniper
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Yes

icy spruce
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ahaha

bitter silo
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Look at how a single candle can both defy and define the darkness.

Anne Frank

rapid juniper
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Also when we pull out our candle it’s from our heart

icy spruce
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Or chest

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And you can't see the

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Gem thing

hushed steeple
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So our heart is essentially fire

rapid juniper
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Yes

urban ginkgo
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We’re called moths but we’re basically just lamps SkyLOL

rapid juniper
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Well we’re moths actual moths

bitter silo
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No u guys just sky kids

queen locust
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I mean- we essentially blindly follow the call of the Light that always leads us to the brightest freaking thing in the Kingdom

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If that ain't mothlike idk what is

icy spruce
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I-

bitter silo
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@queen locust well thts how the game works.. we follow the game😂

icy spruce
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._.

queen locust
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I mean yeah- but to take it into the perspective of the skid we're playing as instead of the player's has merits

bitter silo
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Wdym

icy spruce
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If you were the skid

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Not the player controlling the skid

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Like, you literally are the skid.

queen locust
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It's true that following the Light is just a thing that the game makes you do- but in the context of the game the skid themselves is following a call

bitter silo
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Well if like tht.. im there just to safe tht stone kids

rapid juniper
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The light well our freinds constellation is called the light waht if our freinds were leading the way when were moths

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Way

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Its way

queen locust
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Yeah but we didn't KNOW off the gate that we were supposed to be saving stone kids \

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We had to get there first to find that out

bitter silo
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The light.. can be tht giant light beam or the lost light/star for me

queen locust
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For all the skid that we're playing knows up until then we were just reliving spirit memories and meeting Elders in limbo

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No one told them what they were to expect

bitter silo
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Well as a moth back then, i didnt want to go to eden

icy spruce
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can relate

bitter silo
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But another moth dragging me there and left me

icy spruce
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I-

queen locust
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That was your perspective as the player Jerix- but what about the skid that you've played as?

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The Light still called to them even after meeting all the Elders

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Even after reliving all the spirit memories

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And it's still telling them to go to Eden

bitter silo
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As skid i was a happy moth.. flying around n playing as i want.. and then i learn i must safe tht trapped kid on eden.. and i get ascended candles.. then i become a player

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And now im a skid investigator

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Trying to solve the puzzle

cerulean silo
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Maybe the statues keep coming back because of all the other skids trying to save them

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And they eventually die because of it

bitter silo
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For all the skid that we're playing knows up until then we were just reliving spirit memories and meeting Elders in limbo

Hmm so the orbit its a limbo?

cerulean silo
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I guess so

icy spruce
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perhaps

bitter silo
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My perspective is tht when we play the game one time.. the story ends, we safe them, they are home again in orbit.. but after tht we have option to be reborn again and do it all over again.

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So the orbit frm where i see it.. its their home

cerulean silo
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Unless you don't

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Wanna go to Eden again

bitter silo
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Yes

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So when n how the darkness came?

queen locust
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Mostly depends on how you interpret the Intro cutscene

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And what you think darkness meant in that context

icy spruce
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well, darkness most likely existed naturally

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And there were little to none darkness in Sky

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Until ✨ E D E N ✨

bitter silo
icy spruce
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Prolly cause of, as I said ' ✨eden✨ '

bitter silo
icy spruce
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mk

bitter silo
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Darkness came and they fell

rapid juniper
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Yes

icy spruce
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ohhh the stars, oopsies

rapid juniper
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The stars

icy spruce
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My brain is currently on crabs, pardon me. But I forgot the theories about that topic so uh-

bitter silo
queen locust
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Once Butters proposed that the Intro cutscene was out of order

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I don't know too much about the details but the gist of it was that the Elders didn't literally 'fall' from where they originally came from because of some original sin

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Rather it was a metaphor- 'falling from grace'

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Because note how in the intro cutscene 'darkness came, and stars fell' came after the Kingdom has been built, not before

bitter silo
#

@queen locust does the elders fall too? Or just the stars around them?

icy spruce
#

Well, ancestors stated by the canon lore doc that they're also stars so-

queen locust
#

It's noted in the Canon Doc that the 'fallen stars' referred to the Elders

icy spruce
#

I guess both (?)

bitter silo
icy spruce
#

Oh, well elders are in a limbo

queen locust
#

I mean- I won't debate against the idea that the Ancestors are also stars

icy spruce
#

So they might be there at the same time not-?

queen locust
#

Elders being in limbo throws wrenches into so many theories oml-

icy spruce
#

i-

bitter silo
#

Maybe the elders who send us to bring them home

#

I wonder who send us?

icy spruce
#

Megan

#

prolly

bitter silo
#

Not Jenova?

queen locust
#

i can't tell if that was a pun on Jehovah or not-

icy spruce
#

I-

bitter silo
#

Jenova chen😂

#

He is the Creator

queen locust
#

No no I know that but like

#

I'm not sure if it'll reach such a meta level

bitter silo
icy spruce
#

I'll just commit King excluding the explosion-

cerulean silo
#

Jenova Chen
The true elder of Eden and all

hidden scaffold
#

hey so... one of my friends said that the valley rings look like biblically accurate angels

... now i cannot unsee that

rapid juniper
#

Woah

#

But its different

hidden scaffold
#

and now that i think about it when you fly to the center of orbit its got the same structure

you have a big shiny orb in the middle and all these creatures flying around it pFIRE

#

i guess it still different tho yea

rapid juniper
queen locust
#

The Orbit actually reminds me more of the Empyrean than it does Thrones

hushed steeple
#

Him: "dang girl, you look like an angel"
Her: 👁️ 👁️ 👁️ 👁️ 👄 👁️ 👁️ 👁️ 👁️ "really?"

queen locust
#

The Empyrean as described in Dante's Paradiso is basically God's spot in Heaven

rapid juniper
#

Oooooooooo

queen locust
#

A bright place with angels surrounding it in an eternal dance of light

hushed steeple
#

o. o

queen locust
#

It's actually supposed to be so dang bright that you can't see anything but light

#

A place reserved for only the purest of souls, the highest of angels

#

then again according to the same book God is like- a bright book

#

Like a really bright book

hushed steeple
#

Wdym like his appearance is a really bright book?

queen locust
#

Literally a book

#

and idk what was up with that

hushed steeple
#

The universe is his story ig

queen locust
#

Dante was probably high when he wrote the Divine Comedy anyway

hushed steeple
#

Nah he just has a good imagination

queen locust
#

POINT BEING- I think I've seen the Empyrean be described as the origin of all light in the universe at one point

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Which makes sense since God's smack-dab in the center of it

hushed steeple
#

woah

queen locust
#

An interesting bit about it is that apparently it's occupied by the element of Fire

#

Specifically Fire

hushed steeple
#

Fire is a very resourceful element

queen locust
#

It is, but I find it notable because Fire in this case is synonymous to a godly element

#

And seeing how much importance is being placed upon the element of Fire in general in Sky I can't help but think that's supposed to be a nod to smthn

bitter silo
queen locust
#

That class of biblically accurate angels is actually Thrones

#

Giant gold gyrospheres adorned in eyes and wings

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and is also set on fire

bitter silo
queen locust
#

Iirc in the hierarchy they were the third highest ranking angel

#

Below only Seraphim and Cherubim

bitter silo
#

Wheels within wheels

queen locust
#

yep here it is

#

Aside from that the things in Valley are actually referred to as Armillary Spheres

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Used to study the night skies mostly

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Citadel was stated to be a place of scholars so I'm not that surprised that these things show up

#

And Valley has a pretty good vantage point for it

bitter silo
#

Stargazing

livid valley
#

love the angels

icy spruce
#

ikr

bitter silo
#

Wht about this?

icy spruce
#

Its a bug

outer grail
#

What is that

icy spruce
#

BUG

hidden scaffold
#

Woh... ⬆️ that was really in-depth

icy spruce
#

what

bitter silo
#

Its doesn't look like a bug to me

icy spruce
#

It's a bug that survived multiple updates somehow

bitter silo
#

They updated the drawing

icy spruce
#

And it is a bug

hidden scaffold
#

Where was the drawing?

icy spruce
#

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

#

Jellyfish cave

hidden scaffold
#

o h

icy spruce
#

In sanctuary islands

bitter silo
icy spruce
#

ok

bitter silo
#

So its an updated bug?

icy spruce
#

what

#

Dunno, all I know that it's a bug that somehow survived multiple updates.

queen locust
#

no that's literally just a bug ye

#

Time to take my mandated Sanc mural shot

outer grail
#

What’s it supposed to be then

icy spruce
#

ye

queen locust
#

to be young and hydrated

icy spruce
#

I-

bitter silo
#

Looks like the the enlighten (thts wht i call it) got knocked down by wasteland elders

icy spruce
#

aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

#

It's a bug

#

Not lore-related and all

#

It's a bug

queen locust
#

Pretending that is isn't a bug for a bit though- yeah that's what it is and it's seriously lacking context

icy spruce
#

Mk

bitter silo
#

I see a connection here

rapid juniper
#

Yes

queen locust
#

we're not supposed to- it's a bug

outer grail
#

So if valley citadel has the armillary spheres, it’s just solidifying that the goal of the ancestors was to go back to orbit....right?

icy spruce
#

perhaps

rapid juniper
queen locust
#

What no- the Sanc murals

icy spruce
#

If you mean the Sanctuary mural, yes

bitter silo
#

Yeah call it a bug.. i call it a clue😁

rapid juniper
#

Ah ok

queen locust
#

I meant the cursed Sanc murals that I take water shots for

rapid juniper
#

Hm

icy spruce
#

hhhhhhhhh

queen locust
#

no really- bugs are probably the one of the only things we take care not to insert into lore

outer grail
#

So that is a child of light in the middle of the spheres?

#

Or is that the king or something

rapid juniper
#

Maybe

queen locust
#

If every bug was lore-related we'd have an uprising on our hands

lapis notch
#

We think it’s the King

icy spruce
#

Or Prince-

lapis notch
#

The one from the Prophecy murals

pastel brookBOT
#

The prophecy??! don't trust what the Elders say!!

bitter silo
#

Well why don't they removed it like the rest of the bug?

rapid juniper
#

I think it’s the prince

lapis notch
#

Sky or not now

icy spruce
#

Because it somehow survived

#

Or the devs just haven't noticed it yet

rapid juniper
lapis notch
#

Me 🤝 Ches
Prophet of

outer grail
#

Prince and king are different how
I am still confused

bitter silo
queen locust
icy spruce
#

It is a bug

#

B U G

#

And Prince and King MIGHT be different people OR the same.

#

We don't know

outer grail
#

Lore is confusing

icy spruce
#

That's why I said or Prince

#

Ye

queen locust
#

Oh- and there's a possibility that the Prince and King are the same person if you interpret coronation that way

#

brain cell juicing go brrt

icy spruce
#

ye

#

Yes

outer grail
#

Is the pyramid vault or eden
Cause the 4 stone pillars in it look like from vault

queen locust
#

Vault and Eden- Vault is within the mountain

icy spruce
#

Yes

outer grail
#

oh

#

Righttt cause it rises up

queen locust
#

Eden is that fancy castle structure built on top

icy spruce
#

Yes

#

And big diamond

outer grail
#

but big diamond is under the mountain

#

Is it the one in the vault elevator?

icy spruce
#

oh ye

bitter silo
#

"If only they had listened"

icy spruce
#

I thought you meant the present Sky, not the one in the murals

#

Sorry

hushed steeple
outer grail
#

I’m thinking the theory about the king absorbing the light energy from eden is likely
Given that the armillary spheres have the sun at the center, and they drew the king at the center

bitter silo
#

I think the elders been warned

queen locust
#

While there are similarities- Journey and Sky are in two separate universes

icy spruce
#

Krills are most likely not machines since they existed before technology was advance in Sky (stated by the Prophecy Mural)

outer grail
#

That is true

icy spruce
#

Yes, they are different worlds and universes

outer grail
#

I didn’t think of that

queen locust
#

Devs might have taken inspiration from the Guardians, not necessarily related

outer grail
#

The krills are in the murals

icy spruce
#

hhhh

outer grail
#

We should add that to the main docs
Under “undermining the krills are machines” or something

icy spruce
#

Perhaps in the Theory of Vault docs?

queen locust
#

Ye we probably should

#

Anyone wanna take a stab at that?

outer grail
#

maybe chesca should do it since they thought of it

icy spruce
#

what

#

I-

outer grail
#

Add to the docs....?

#

Or no

icy spruce
#

eh, ok

outer grail
#

I’m thinking is it v likely the center is the king
Cause ppl on the mountain seem to be worshipping him or something

icy spruce
#

Ah, someone has added the 'Krill are machines'

outer grail
#

Yeah

#

So we need something for undermine it
Since we have sort of evidence

#

I’m new to lore so i read that whole docs yesterday

icy spruce
#

And someone already mentioned the canon stuff-

#

So uh-

outer grail
#

Ah u mean the darkness and light balance?

lean fox
#

⏸️

#

I don’t believe dark creatures are actively malicious

#

Like

#

Krill can very easily be predatory sky creatures

icy spruce
#

hhhh

lean fox
#

And since light is warmer than dark it would make sence that they have thermal vision

queen locust
#

Circling back to the ecology thing, I'm not sure you can quite attach morality to the nature of predator-prey relationships

lean fox
#

Exactly

queen locust
#

Krill being a natural part of the ecology means they're merely doing what's in their nature- not driven by malicious intent

icy spruce
#

True

lean fox
#

Mhmm

queen locust
#

Same goes to Crabs honestly

lean fox
#

Yeah

outer grail
#

I wonder about what one of the devs said about crabs walk representing something

lean fox
#

So rather than krill coming in at the forefront of the battle or whatever tragedy i just think they are just naturally inclined to niches that are sandy

outer grail
#

Or perhaps attracted to places of darkness

lean fox
#

Warm and sandy with little “human like” activity

outer grail
#

With little? Uh, eden and gw seem p full of human activity

#

Or do u mean like, currently full of

lean fox
#

Currently

#

I believe something happened prior them making thier home

queen locust
#

Human activity is kind of a stretch considering there's barely anyone alive pretty much anywhere in Sky

lean fox
#

Exactly

queen locust
#

heck everyone sans the Elders are dead

hushed steeple
#

Im not saying that the krills are the same as guardians from journey, i know them are on different universe, but If you hear so close the krills they sound like gears, idk is a weird theory

lost hull
#

maybe they started out as organic animals but became mechanical

queen locust
#

They do- krill are very much machine-like creatures

bitter silo
#

Krill attacking manta!

queen locust
somber dome
#

I think that krill are just very territorial and only attack skids and to defend their territory

neat flint
#

Krill when it sees us sound like a helicopter tbh

lean fox
#

Or as food

icy spruce
#

hhhhh

lost hull
#

ah that's true

rapid juniper
#

Well actually they eat light

hushed steeple
rapid juniper
#

Tgc show us clue about what krill is going to do to us

#

Krill the manta

somber dome
#

I always though the manta was just destroyed not eaten

rapid juniper
#

Well

#

It was eaten same as our light

hushed steeple
rapid juniper
#

Yeah but krills aren’t guardians

hushed steeple
#

looks like it

#

I didnt say they are guardians(?)

somber dome
#

idk i think we just take damage bc they ram into us

#

like when our skid hits a wall

rapid juniper
#

Well nope

#

Gw krills are different and are weaker

#

Eden krills is stronger cuz when you get close to them you lose stars

icy spruce
#

ye

rapid juniper
#

Also we cant use home glitch in eden

glass mountain
#

does anyone know what the weird serpant thing is that flies near you in ||eden|| before you get to orbit? it's like when you're flying around destroyed stuff

rapid juniper
#

Its a whale

wooden harness
#

The whale?

#

Ye

somber dome
#

pWhale ?

glass mountain
#

is that what it is? It looks super weird, and something similar looking you can see through the clouds when flying to wasteland

rapid juniper
#

But they destroy thos stuff so we can pass trought

#

The whale

queen locust
#

Pretty much the same thing but white yeah

#

There's another one down in the Underground Caverns

dull fox
#

Is turtle

#

🐢

#

🅱️urtle confirmed

rapid juniper
#

Burtle yes

somber dome
#

turtle but no shell?

lost hull
#

pretty sure it's not a turtle bc no turtle would be that Long

solar relic
#

yeah that creature is a whale - i think we see the same one in the underground caves, between valley and gw and also in ascent to orbit

#

could be multiple too

rapid juniper
somber dome
#

are we talking abt the skulls in wasteland or the whale in the begining?

dull fox
#

Wait what

#

I was talking about the water prophets mask

#

XD

solar relic
#

oh

#

that's a turtle yes

lost hull
#

yeah the whale mask is the one you get from the feinting warrior

dull fox
#

According to someone somewhere there is only one whale in the entire world of sky

#

It just follows you

tough vector
#

Oop

solar relic
#

afaik it's never been confirmed by devs there is only one whale

#

unless canon lore doc missed it out

dull fox
#

There’s probably only one whale mob that they use over and over tho XD

rapid juniper
#

Oh lmao

dull fox
#

Sorry I’m throwing off the groove of this channel. Lemme just disappear real quick

junior robin
somber dome
#

Isn't the whale in ||Orbit|| much bigger than the one we see in wasteland?

lost hull
#

i once had a picture of me right next to the whale in orbit

#

it's much larger

dull fox
#

I think that what you see from orbit is just the storm. The storm is big enough that from our perspective it could be the only visible thing

junior robin
dull fox
#

If the world of sky was a gas giant there would be no such thing as a clear sky

queen locust
junior robin
#

Ooohhhh

dull fox
#

Daylight prarie would be cloudy

hushed steeple
#

only clouds

queen locust
#

End credits, zooming out

dull fox
#

On the surface of Jupiter there is no sun

somber dome
#

There also prob wouldn't be an ocean if the world of sky was a gas giant

dull fox
#

No sun can make it through the clouds

#

In fact

#

On some gas giants there is no surface

#

But just considering that it’s sunny in the daylight prarie and dawn, it’s not a gas giant

#

I think the world of sky is a planet similar to earth

#

Since there appears to be an ocean and weather similar to earths

median stone
#

But less than earth

dull fox
#

How do you mean

median stone
#

I mean

#

U know that these days

#

Our sea level is increasing

dull fox
#

Well yes

#

But let’s not get into politics because for some people that is a political thing rather than scientific fact

median stone
#

And that world just like our next 1000 years after

#

Eh no nono

#

I'm not taking any political things here

dull fox
#

For some people climate change is a political issue. Not for me, but for some so let’s steer clear of it

median stone
#

I mean in science fact right?

#

Oufff I'm sorry I've seen it in my country news too

#

I'm sorry

dull fox
#

It’s all good

#

Just don’t wanna get into that kind of argument here

median stone
#

Wokayy

#

So some scientist predict that this earth will no have no land

#

Then it's transform to this kind of world

dull fox
#

But on that note, if climate change is what led to our planet being like sky, it would be a lot different because the increased amount of water would lead to much more intense storms and weather throughout the planet

median stone
#

Ahhh hahah yes

dull fox
#

The world would be a hot and humid world full of extreme storms worse than anything we’ve ever experienced

#

Tidal waves the size of mountains type things

#

So I don’t think that sky is future earth after climate change 😅

hushed steeple
#

sky is just a simple world

median stone
#

How about other planet like neptune or uranus

dull fox
#

Neptune and Uranus are also planets that would have no sunlight reach the surface

median stone
#

I don't mean like earth

bitter silo
#

It is mention tht they made new home in the clouds

median stone
#

Ouh

dull fox
#

Also consider how little we know about the actual planet that is Sky. The entire story- our entire experience happens on an island probably only slightly larger than Hawaii

outer grail
#

smol boi

dull fox
#

There could be entire continents we don’t know about

median stone
#

Yes

#

That's why there is some seasonal spirit

somber dome
#

I'd love to see more kingdoms in sky besides the one we get to explore

median stone
#

Live in other continent

dull fox
#

We also have no idea how far we travel when going to the enchantment area

median stone
#

Uuhh our phones gonna explode

#

Just like genshin

quasi drift
#

aha hot phone

outer grail
#

I would love to see more places in sky pls underwater realm

dull fox
#

That could be next who knows

#

Not me

somber dome
#

I'd like to see a reef filled with all kinds of light creatures

dull fox
#

Me too

median stone
#

I would love to see more places in sky pls underwater realm
@outer grail every one have ask that

outer grail
#

Ik

#

Cause it’s cool

median stone
#

Yess it's our childhood dreams

outer grail
#

Ik it’d kinda disrupt their cycle tho

#

The childhood adult rebirth thingy

median stone
#

To discover the world deep in sea

outer grail
#

But it’s still cool

somber dome
#

a sunken citypWow

median stone
#

But it should be only one area u know

dull fox
#

One thing that has always felt off about Sky is this: where are the villages?

quasi drift
#

skys atlantispEyes

median stone
#

Destroyed

dull fox
#

There is very little evidence of an actual village

median stone
#

By storms

#

The these storms disappear

dull fox
#

So how’d the other buildings like the ones in prairie survive?

somber dome
#

I'd love to see a whale nest pWow

median stone
#

Something still remain to tell the tale

#

And....

#

Some of the land were floating

#

Maybe at first that place never exist

outer grail
#

Trueee there’s hardly any village

median stone
#

Then our Megan create it for us

dull fox
#

But realistically if a storm could destroy an entire village leaving no trace of it- how could some building survive and others not? The temples appear to be in near perfect condition for the most part

outer grail
#

Hm maybe it only destroyed eden

somber dome
#

Eden is pretty destroyed too

median stone
#

Emmm about that sunken city?

dull fox
#

Eden is very destroyed

median stone
#

Could be

#

Yess

outer grail
#

It shows in the prophecy mural a heck ton of people worshipping
Perhaps everyone was there to witness the king absorb the energy

#

So everyone died in eden

dull fox
#

But their buildings would have survived, no?

outer grail
#

Would also explain the skids in stormlock

median stone
#

Everyone were sacrificed to pay for their sin

outer grail
#

buildings where?

dull fox
#

Exactly my point

somber dome
#

i think the big eden diamond just exploded

dull fox
#

There should be more ruins than there are if the island had as many people as are portrayed on it

median stone
#

Including the prove of the citizens that is buildings

outer grail
#

huh
They went from prairie and valley to witness the thing on eden

median stone
#

Were destroyed

outer grail
#

Eden is a wreck and has many ruins

dull fox
#

Most of the ruins in Eden seem like a war to me

#

Seem like the ruins left behind on a battleground

heady sinew
#

Remember that Valley's Citadel is meant to have slums, apparently. It's just hidden by clouds

#

We only see the tip of the iceberg pEyes

somber dome
#

rlly?

#

:0

outer grail
#

Perhaps, but the lore i read in theory vault was basically: king absorb energy, cannot contain, kaboom

heady sinew
outer grail
#

What

#

Why is that not in theory vault then

#

It could add so much to the civilizations area

somber dome
#

I want more world building

median stone
#

Remember that Valley's Citadel is meant to have slums, apparently. It's just hidden by clouds
@heady sinew wwwwwwooooww nicethen these thing supporting my old earth theories where our Everest mount were separated in two side

#

Hahahahah

#

And only the top of it remain

#

Hahhahaha

somber dome
#

do all the trees in forest have leaves hidden in clouds?

#

or are all the trees petrified?

median stone
#

Petrified between death and lives

#

Petrified trees don't have any leaves

somber dome
#

leaves could be hidden in/above clouds

dull fox
#

Fun fact: a lot of authors and such don’t actually come up with lore for their stories, books, or other forms of media. They rather prefer to let nerds like us brainstorm and try to figure it out and take the best ideas from what we say and combine them together to make the lore afterwards.

median stone
#

Yeh

somber dome
#

yeah like cow tools

dull fox
#

cow tools

median stone
#

Cow tools?

dull fox
#

cow tools

median stone
#

How to make cows?

heady sinew
#

🐄

median stone
#

Let them breed and that is the tool for making the cows

#

Or tools for sucking their milk

dull fox
#

Someone send a picture of cow tools to this channel so it’ll make sense

median stone
#

Hahahah ye I don't know what is it

dull fox
#

It’s a comic by some dude. One panel, but it’s basically a cow looking at a weird looking thing titled “cow tools”

#

I wish I had it

somber dome
#

ppl speculated how and why these tools were made

dull fox
#

But basically people started trying to figure out what the weird objects were and the creator basically let them figure out the lore to his comic for him

somber dome
#

yeah

dull fox
#

And that’s how a lot of authors work

#

It’s possible that TGC is just letting us figure out the lore for them based on a rough sketch of what they’ve come up with

bitter silo
#

Yeah

dull fox
#

Here I’m having my brother send me a pic of cow tools so I can show y’all

heady sinew
#

Lmao, it would be cool. Both gamers and devs creating a story together

dull fox
#

That’s why I think this lore channel exists

#

The lore behind the lore, you could call it

bitter silo
#

U read my mind

short owl
#

I mean maybe but that would be hard to do with two years of content planned

median stone
#

Whatttt

latent tendon
somber dome
#

probly

stoic stirrup
#

i mean he also ded

rapid juniper
#

Well he ded all of em there body is gone nowhere to be found

median stone
#

Uff that cow tools....... Just like discovering our past like that or the past of something... Like that?

#

That tools look like something that we will use for cook that cow right

somber dome
#

like TGC gives us bits of lore and we connect the dots for them

median stone
#

Yyyyyy

#

A bit of clues.... And we find the result...

somber dome
#

more like we come up with a result and tgc goes along with it

kind bobcat
#

Sky lore is made vague, so we can go wild with our theories.

#

which makes for good headcanons

deft lintel
#

Some body still like the body we burn for spirit
Probably when they die, they being like a rock

#

So some of them are maybe destroyed or just hiding in the sand or snow

median stone
#

Or.... They were sacrificed and they gone pofff*

deft lintel
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Lol xD

median stone
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I mean by that explosion

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Hhahaha

deft lintel
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Not sure

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Most of them could be dead slowly because they was stuck in a place like the crying spirit

bitter silo
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Who buried them?

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Lol random question

hushed steeple
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Wow never seen these people in lore chat before

queen locust
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Heya Kokichi

hushed steeple
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Hi

queen locust
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And I don't think they were all necessarily buried per say

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Or maybe it's been that long and their bodies just decomposed

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Or maybe they don't decompose at all?

hushed steeple
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They are made of light

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Well half light half flesh

queen locust
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That flesh could have gone SOMEWHERE then-

hushed steeple
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Basically an organic creature that

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Is light?

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Technically in a way

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Think of it like those gems on steven universe

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Their gems project their physical form

deft lintel
queen locust
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And their gems are their actual bodies, that sorta thing?

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idk I never watched SU

hushed steeple
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Now back to sky think of it like there's no gem on the ancestors

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Yes like that

deft lintel
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Ancestors have gem

hushed steeple
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But they are projected into light like flesh

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And when a gem's been hurt it will poof into nothing because the physical form is damaged

queen locust
deft lintel
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Yes like the one on the head and maybe on the stuff

hushed steeple
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Yes that

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Btw that's a plant not something on their bodies

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It's like the start of the plant

deft lintel
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Yea ik, but still have gems

queen locust
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A seed if you will lmao

hushed steeple
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Yes a seed

deft lintel
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Seed ? XD

hushed steeple
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The seed is decaying the spirit i think

queen locust
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Not just decaying- it's outright taking over

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Tearful Light Miner gave the possibility that those dark plants that we've been burning really were just Ancestors

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actually that kind of begs the question though

hushed steeple
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Ye

queen locust
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If the Ancestors had this as a defining feature of their biology are they not technically dark creatures

deft lintel
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Guys, you know when you fly up to the orbit ? If you can see down, we see the same thrones from the Vault

hushed steeple
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ohnocrabmod crab is mod

deft lintel
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Why it can have the same thrones if it's where the prince live

jolly loom
queen locust
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AHA- ANOTHER WATER SHOT-

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That's a bug Mish

jolly loom
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Sad

queen locust
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Best not to look into it too much in terms of lore

queen locust
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We can't be sure if there actually was a set of thrones like that in the Summit

deft lintel
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We need to see

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Everything is related with the eden crystal

queen locust
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god next time I need to take actual lore shots- anyway-

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What are we talking about now because it seems like we just keep jumping from topic to topic without a resolution

deft lintel
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Look up

queen locust
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Yes but like- what about the Eden crystal Dark- wdym by everything is related to it

deft lintel
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I mean actually we see it in all location, we need to go in for to save all the child and we rebirth after we trying to be close of the crystal, where the prince live was in Eden, the giant door of Eden have all the head statue of all the Elders

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Just guess what I mean

bitter silo
deft lintel
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I mean normally you need to share your candle for to make free the spirit

deft lintel
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Are you sure ?

bitter silo
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Yeah.. i count.. i see it doesnt hv isle elders head

deft lintel
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Strange

bitter silo
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And funny tht only isle elders hv broken mask

deft lintel
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Something happened to him

latent tendon
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Vault has a cracked one?

bitter silo
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Only 5

latent tendon
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One of them is the isle one, I dont think valley is included there

bitter silo
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Valley is right bottom i think

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Isle elders head tht isn't there

bitter silo
latent tendon
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Wait we can find out by looking at the vault grave elder thing

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Isle, prairie, vault and forest are there

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Also wasteland

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So Valley isn't including