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we prob are not Bc we do it too but Bc things that look like us have had a connection to us
You see there where pupils on the spirits memories
It’s not so exclusive
It would be cool it’s the prince and I understeand why you guys want to find him, but I really feel it’s about the sky kids
We don’t tend to appear too often
it’s not us
After catching up I’m super behind the we were tricked and are currently powering the diamond rn theory
I bealive it is. We should wait anyway for a confirmation
The murals depict things that happen before our tom
When we see more murals
but the murals depict things that have already happened a longggg time ago
Anyhow the floating pose is really kid like, the way the game always portrays us as light (in terms of weight) and whimsical beings
I mean we confuse the sky kids and child of light and the prince easily. what if there is some relation
also if it were us eden would be more involved but it’s not
Quick question, was the mural created to predict them finding the king or after the king was found?
So would the elders
i imagine thé CoL/prince/King is the first skid imo
It wouldn’t be involved that much because the mural is not about that
Also eden does appear
no I mean for us
The palace it’s on the painting
ik
was he the “child of light” like a prophecy type of thing? like “the child of light will save us blah blah blah” and then he ventured out, came back wth the four lights and now he’s the child of light or something
coincidence...I think not
Haha> i imagine thé CoL/prince/King is the first skid imo
@lethal stump haha, that’s fun. It would be intersting
maybe, moom
... idek what we talking about ima go look at the walls
I think he is
@echo horizon they probably where waiting for us
I've never actually payed attention 😅
i mean, it makes sense
the king in the murals is drawn the same way as the skid in the opening mural
but no what I mean is that if the murals were about us then we’d be in eden with the elders after we did trials
Also eden would be broken
And the kid in the painting is interacting with the mural
*elders my bad
thé CoL and Prince/King are drawn the same way as skids so it’s not unlikely they’re the same kind of being
We are above the palace, that can’t be more close to eden
Elders are dead and gone by time we roll around
^
they’re not necessarily dead
the murals can’t possibly be depicting us tho
^
Elders are dead and gone by time we roll around
@pulsar iris but we have memories whit them
but they’re not alive
they’re just, outside time and space
@ashen bloom it’s really possible, really REALLY possible
@lethal stump maybe dead, but they do know us
@viscid coyote whats ur argument for it is
We are kind of a light service
@ashen bloom as you see the prince, I see the kids
that’s not proof tho
And I told you it also has sense
Yea but they not physically here
they’re physically outside time and space
@lethal stump that’s dead or not dead
no u need some proof tho
this chat is alive
@pulsar snow I stuck a stick in the anthill lol
thats not dead and dead
have you read the canon doc, @viscid coyote ?
OOPSIE I WASN'T DONE
Theory: so there’s two versions of sky world: the ancestors’ sky and our sky. Our sky is the most current version. The prophecy was about the origin of our sky. The prophecy said that the prince would complete the trials, go to eden, power the diamond, and become the king. However, this would backfire, resulting in prince becoming eden light and the eden diamond thing existence and the endless storm of red rocks and darkness, which eventually kills all of the spirits.
the prophecy cycle starts again...
@pulsar iris small lighting beings, painted whit a different colour, whit little bodies compared to others, doing the trials but not painted as the other pupils, and shining intensively whit all the elders
@lethal stump i wish, could you tell me where to find it?
pins
🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
but @viscid coyote whats ur proof that the mural has skids
also, so I found a weird thing in ascension, it's the elders stone thing at every temple on one platform when you start going to the orbit space area
do youknow wht this means? I'm no genius 
imma chuck this here for anyone new
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no u need some proof tho
@ashen bloom you need proof too, I don’t have any problem whit your theory, it’s cool. But we have kind of the same level of analyzing
I do have proof
also, so I found a weird thing in ascension, it's the elders stone thing at every temple on one platform when you start going to the orbit space area
do youknow wht this means? I'm no genius
@pulsar snow oh, stone?
also, so I found a weird thing in ascension, it's the elders stone thing at every temple on one platform when you start going to the orbit space area
do youknow wht this means? I'm no genius
@pulsar snow it looks like the thing at the end of Vault so I just assumed it was a cool cutscene of like Vault getting destroyed or something although idk if that makes sense
@echo horizon oh you mean like a vision
keng 
I get both your theories... but... where are the fallen ppl in the paintings when we went through? It seems like all the elders also showed up to receive the elements
the prince has been depicted the same way countless times as far as I know and if it depicted us then it wouldn’t be showing the forest becoming smoky and stuff
when you’re getting to Orbit after dying in Storm you’re flying through destroyed Eden right?@viscid coyote
that’s what I meant
@ashen bloom and when it’s drawn whit it’s crown like form?
@echo horizon oh, thanks you
Also the figure appears to be very special whereas skids seem to be more equal
I think so
i feel overwhelmed
whatre you guys talking about
? It’s always drawn in crown form
lore
Also the figure appears to be very special whereas skids seem to be more equal
@ashen bloom but where have we seen sky kids painted before?
yes, you can see the elder shrines in ascension, however they’re much larger than the ones in vault @pulsar snow
Also
@ashen bloom that’s a shining head, not a clear crown
Theory: Long before the elders, there were only dark creatures. The elder's made the land a place of light, and that's when the spirits live. One of the elders misuses their power, and destroys the land once again. The spirits have kids, which are the children of light aka our skykids. We are quested to revive the land, and we accept. Eventually, when you've done enough good, you are granted krill poofing powers. You use them to save the land, starting the cycle again. The last of the children then are forced to save the world one last time, and they all disappear into orbit. Buuut, one last survives, and then sky kid manta combo's are created, (where is this going? even idk) restarting the cycle but it's a manta kid.
Also devs apparently confirmed that elevator part of belt isn’t real
That’s why it’s suspicious
I gtg dang it
no but it looks exactly like king mask
@ashen bloom dang, that’s high!
its a head not shining
Also devs apparently confirmed that elevator part of belt isn’t real
@ashen bloom wdym
no but it looks exactly like king mask
@ashen bloom also exactly like the iconic shines around the game
Idk someone do that
@dapper copper dang it
but this ones more e l a b o r ate
lol
So, the Eden King/Prince, right?
I'm speculating that before we was even king of the Sky Kingdom, he was either human or an angel, but I'm going for the angel thing for this one. After the countless disobediences he created, he was casted out of heaven and into a barren place, which we now know as the Eye of Eden. The elders are his friends or those who did the same things he did, so he made them the elders of the other lands they found.
See yall later
y’all, i think that’s the eden crown from this concept
And it unites the king with the prophecy which would make sense why the king is the symbol
i heard a great call ring out in the skies...is it....the prophecy?
theres no human existed in the game
That's why I went for the angel thing
y’all, i think that’s the eden crown from this concept
whos the white boi with the crown
prince?
Shiny boi?
E v e r y t h i n g i s p r i n c e
The person we found before orbit
maybe it’s concept art for a “dead” skykid?
Lost stars you need to bring back home idk
Then why would it be so light
i’d say it’s the prince, but it’s not labeled so 
^
but why does it have w i n g s
considering what we have now with the murals, it’s safe to assume that’s the prince
^
the prince has usually had wings in the concepts
hey so i read this
There’s an entity known as the megabird we see twice, in the credits/sky of Orbit and around the portal into office
in a document pinned or something like that, and since its around the office and office is the human world does that mean the mega bird thing is something with rebirth?
I read through the concept art and it said something about dying and going to sky and after eden going back to human world so maybe it link up
maybe i am stupid but hhhhh
actually who exactly are the elders? why is everywhere corrupted except isle, valley and vault?
Oh no
@lethal stump oh so the prince is the big shadow in the background?
dw mistakes are made
oh so the prince is the big shadow in the background?
@echo horizon thats the king
@echo horizon im saying the prince is the glowing white child
^
Its looks like eden also theres a part of eden floating it looks like the top of king- @echo horizon
oki
Glowing kid could be saved star from eden idk
DOES THE SKY KING HAVE AN EVIL DEATH RAY?!?!?
possibly
Look at the picture lmaooo
if it was ever added in the game to make eden 10 times harder
That would be awesome
Make Eden harder 2021

Zeus vibes lol
oh god
Oh boi
And along came Zeus
King is Zeus conformed
HE HURLED A THUNDERBOLT
sits on his big mountain with a lightning bold and parties with elders
I feel like TGC should kinda make a season based on the story of Sky
^
-----------------+
That’s this season
thats what prophecy is @cunning perch
Can i slap my theory who rules the kids in sky?
sûre bloky
thats what prophecy is @cunning perch
@lethal stump kinda but maybe something more in depth
K
travelling spirts 
DOES THE SKY KING HAVE AN EVIL DEATH RAY?!?!?
@pulsar iris laser beam eyes
Pew
kinda but maybe something more in depth
a) this is the most lore we’ve ever gotten in a season
b) the point of sky lore is that they aren’t going to give us 100% definite answers, bc the fun part is everyone making their own stories and theories ! tgc will never tell us the absolute story
I still stand by my theory: so there’s two versions of sky world: the ancestors’ sky and our sky. Our sky is the most current version. The prophecy was about the origin of our sky. The prophecy said that the prince would complete the trials, go to eden, power the diamond, and become the king. However, this would backfire, resulting in prince becoming eden light and the eden diamond thing existence and the endless storm of red rocks and darkness, which eventually kills all of the spirits.
I have a theory about the Wasteland's origin 
Mother is the King of sky kids and the "King" is in controll of the dark, that's my theory
who's the prince?
@neat flint GIVE ME YOUR THEORY!!!
SAY
@feral radish ok i think it will be long
@cunning perch are you new to sky lore ?
seems like it
clears throat
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@cunning perch are you new to sky lore ?
@lethal stump mhm
lol
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@lethal stump yee
my theory is that we’re related to the child of light/prince or king because of the game title, the fact we collect lights, “light” is depicted with
and that’s in the prophecy mural, and our friend constellation (for skykids this time not spirits) has the shape of a crown and comes between Vault and Isle (Eden/death and rebirth)
Sometimes I imagine discord as an actual realm in sky. And we’re all in a cave with sticky notes screaming at each other about stamps and paint used in murals
oh my god 😂
XDDDD
ooga booga 
sounds legit
Unga bunga
i always imagine lore chat as a room in the vault 
and we have the lurkers
hey friends sorry to jump in, just wanted to see if anybody has thoughts on why there's a pipe funneling birds into eden?
Can i show you all my krill theory?
theories are all welcome
... can this be an actual thing?? I would kinda love to scream at you in all in sky about rock colors and the shape of crabs
ye s
Krills aren't alive
golden wasteland crab den place thing at arc
robots?
ill like we were all friends and go to prophecy cave start honking
They are machines created by the dark
lmao machiine
This has some irl facts and what i found myself
I think they are Bc they’re in the prophecy murals but they were bred to become war spotlight things
@hidden marsh Eden was a part of the light creatures' rebirth cycle, personally i think it's just their normal migration route that wont end well. Although there are some other theories, for example there's a theory saying that Eden uses those light creatures to power the diamond or other industrial purposes.
Krills are really smol and live in the dark depths of ocean
I agree with the industry one more
so the machine can grow?
Machine is red diamond?
cyborg krill
technically they aren’t krills, theyre dark dragons
They lab grow krill for WAR
These are built by it
t r u w
technically they aren’t krills, theyre dark dragons
^^^
so when theorizing about them, remember to keep their canon name in mind
Krills have soft tummies y'know 
If you listen closely you can hear mechanical noises
:0
ya but krills easier to type
Especially in eden
Lil clickity clack
sounds like some angry krill growling to me
ye, krills have soft underbellies
they don’t seem entirely mechanic
someone have video of the sound?
What if
and they’re in prophecy murals
A bunch of super chibi sky kids are driving the krill
In my War Krill theory, i explained the clickity clack sound to be the result of the krill's shell/armor.

Like a mech suit
so u guys are sayi g krill can be a machine?
so the chibis are making a very dangerous prank which takes out your light
it’s more likely armor tho
Hmmmmm good point
there’s a picture of the krill model reika shared, it looks like a living being and not a machine
More like "not fully natural" than a machine.
so u guys are sayi g krill can be a machine?
its possible but also not possible
crabs seem to be natural
Ye
crabs are prob more dark tho
crabs be some rock shaped creature
oh right
Crabs are like krills, they have a soft body protected by a solid shell
like crabs
in their hiding animation their shell literally jumps off them

grilled for 7 eons
Where is it?
In wasteland in 3rd area after manta got krilled at an edge
Gw grave thing
easter egg btw
Crabs are like us in a lot of ways
us?
yeah i sure do like bonking the hell out of people
😭
But light crabs still bonk
but they d o
everyone is dusty
I tested your theory @ashen bloom yesterday in santuary
i dont understand there are two types of crabs?
I bathe in dust
Ye
o
Explain pls ; -;
I posted video it was awhile ago
i dont understand there are two types of crabs?
just the hostile one and the passive one
Ye
well then
Dusty crabs attac
they protec
Dusty is darker color right?
but most importantly they bonk
I saw something weird today during the quests
ooo
blu
According to the ark mural, the crabs were provoked when they took their water
i guess you might be on to something 
So water cleans crabs mayhaps ?
Maybe
Water is for happy crab
So
imagine drowning means happiness
:^D
yes
also how did the crabs just get out of the world
?
I push them
They are oob masters
I am OOB master
I push them
you use uno reverse bonk card did you
Yea
What if spider crabs exist in sky?
They phase through walls so I walked till they were on the other side and let go
What if spider crabs exist in sky?
longer legs
SPIDER CRAB SPIDER CRAB
Ohhh!!!
pick you up and bite
drill spider?
Concept art monster for wasteland
She would chase you and try and drill you with the spike in her stomach
where S A U C E
O_ o
i love them
yes
Australlia in sky
lol crabs stacking on each other and catch you midair
I t h o u g h t t h o s e w e r e s k u l l s
b r u h
Let's beg TGC to make Australia in Sky
that one crab falling though
yes
skulls will make this game darker ngl
I mean...
imagine seeing the skulls of the dead spirits
Spook
Next to a guillotine
halloween upgraded
Yes
isnt that just the stone thing you light on fire after reliving a spirit to get the cutscene?
o
Hot pockets but with spirits
ok but the turret would be interesting, since it doesnt really fit the definition of a creature
im sorry, hot pockets what?
Idk i just thought about it randomly
fair
Or spirits are just frozen and u need to defrost them
We should put them all in gw...
e
no, more dark creatures outside of gw, it would be funny
well there are theories that turrets already is in gw
oh how?
Or spirits are just frozen and u need to defrost them
@obsidian yacht ooooooooh u could go see the gen 2 skids in eden......
krill r moving turrets
yeah i guess
there is concept arts of the turrets having at the kinh statues
but a turret moving is kindof against the point of a turret right
king*
THE TURRETS R JUST DORMANT
Oh thank god someone found it lmao. It wasn’t on twitter for some reason
you can find the art at tomzhaos site
I want extra area in wasteland for expert flyers and veterans and I want to be demolished by the creatures that live there
That would be good dlc thingy
yessss
how would it be added tho? It wouldn't work well with seasons because moths could never finish the season
Not for regular wasteland cause a mothy would die instantly
So you know the extra rooms at the end of wasteland?
That’s a good place for a dlc. I’d say at least die once before being able to enter. And even then, warn the player that going alone would be super dangerous
Not for regular wasteland cause a mothy would die instantly
not instantly just suffering :))
just watch em
I would like to see the far building that looks a water central
The one with many pipes on the left of the landing in GW map
We want mothies to come 😭😭 gotta keep the lifeblood of the game strong or else it’ll just be full of vets
Elaborate but refutable
Wasteland's origin:
Before, Wasteland Elder was a guard of Valley .
After the Prince was crowned, he gave the elements to the Elders (we could see it on the mural). Sometimes later, the King found the darkness and wants to use them to make machines which could protect the Vault (because it holds the forbidden wisdoms) so he decided to choose a lonely place (with harmless crabs) near the Vault to make a factory (There the Wasteland was born).
And he ordered the Wasteland Elder to be the new guard at the GW. Then he gave the W.E (Wasteland Elder) the Fire light to use it as an energy to make the machines that the King told.
So the W.E asked the Forest Elder to help him build the factory (since Forest Elder is good at mechanics). The Forest Elder did the exact same factory (like the one at their realms and so it also use mantas to be the main energy)
After the factory was built by , W.E collect some darkness and fuse it with the Fire light (and the krills were born).
Next, W.E asked the Forest Elder and the ancestors to built up some statues of The King (but it wasn't just really statues). The King told the Forest Elder to put the diamonds into the statues.
Then, W.E used the Fire Light to turn the statues into machines that work like krills in order to protect the Vault.
After a long time, the darkness came out of the turrets and turns the whole water into dark. So the crabs started to turn dark too and hunt for light creatures. The krills and the statues somehow gone wrong and they started to destroy everywhere in the GW.
And they became a dangerous thing to the Elders.
So there were the rebels (it includes the ancestors and the W.E). Together, they successfully stopped the statues but they couldn't stop the krills so the krills kept destroying the places and (it leads to the death of the W.E).
And then there was the GW we've seen today.
That's all about my Wasteland theories and its own origin

We want mothies to come 😭😭 gotta keep the lifeblood of the game strong or else it’ll just be full of vets
@pulsar iris ohhh, why?, whats a vet?
It's pretty long so..
It took me almost an hour 😅
Veteran
krill were prob trained to do wut they do
for the tst war
It's just my theory 😅
great job math
@viscid coyote just a veteran player lmao ppl that have been around 5 or more months
one more thing...
@teal orbit yes?
Also who is W.E @neat flint
Wasteland Elder 
Well not really it was an accident
The King didn't expect it to be like this
And so the Elders started to think again about the King
Then a moment later it also leads to the King's downfall
Ohh ok
About king statues being turret but not more powered I think the last mural is a great proof for this theory
I have a question: Why don't we see water power anywhere?
Water likes moving from up to down
It can also move things as it does so
Plus the idea the Air Cyan Light powered the levitatiom of buildings and boats racing in Valley
Makes sense
oh hey im back
hi back
the one thing is that teth made the diamond and the factory first....
most certainly
Wb guys
Water likes moving from up to down
@short owl you mean like a mill powered by hydroelectic ?
oh hey guys i`ve been telling cozy chat mainstream theories like stories lol
they love it!!!
did i tell these right?
The King didn't expect it to be like this
And so the Elders started to think again about the King
Then a moment later it also leads to the King's downfall
@neat flint Ahhh i updated a bit
Y’all what’s happening
im very confused...
i have no idea
[math]`s theory is like nothing weve ever seen before...
off of whatever the topic is/was I have a theory about the darkworms (or shadows as the emote is called)
Little suggestion- maybe refrain from referring to the Elders by their fanon names?
and its a bit.... weird....
the theory...
oh and now the official name is shadow.... i think
@teal orbit !!!! I was here for it an you had me on the edge of my seat! Great story telling!
So that would explain the different shield designs!
Sorry if it was confusing 
I wonder where they manufactured them 🤔🤔
Lol
lots of iterations in the theory vault
who made the theory
idk
i made the newest edition
original maker?
idk
prob bricky tho
he made a lotta things
or blu
i rlly dk
did you guys notice that the cutscene island getting bigger and closer 
I will call them darkworms untill the day I die pyre you can't change my mind
so after try and try of the trial of fire, with some participates getting lost and dieing in the trial their souls started culminating into beasts that are just so huggable and these beasts started roaming the trial making it harder and harder for each future participate
did you guys notice that the cutscene island getting bigger and closer
like it moved 1cm :0
I think they’re baby krills
I actually read some of the concept art on twitter, I think it was a war against the creatures
And maybe later in since the tst exists it turned into that as well
I realized most of my dark creature theory's have things pooling into bigger evil things
like my old ish krill theory
I've updated it a bit to go better with the sounds we hear when they pass us
Still doesn’t explain tst though
what is tst
But they definitely fought krill
oh
Two shield theory
e
lmaoaoao
can I get my krill theory in here real quick? I know there's a bigger discussion that doesn't really involve krill to much but I want to but it back in here
sure why not
what’s up
also I think the butterfly's lead the creature resistance
are krill confirmed organic/living
my theories are crumbling to dust
^maybe?
it's a hard maybe-
perhaps
krills are just soot clouds in mecha suit...?
I'm sure they're still viable dude- not much is confirmed just yet
krills r void
I had so many interesting ideas based around them being war machines
Still think super chibi kids in mech suits
someone stole the technology from pale king
when is next season- 
a few weeks
||SOON||
later they send a tall seasonal elder in th art and then when it comes ingame its short :0
hey considering Neon Evangelis Genesis the thought of a prince controlling a mecha suit is practical after all. he can forge a synch rate or smth
I just started that show!!!
I want to join in this once I do the damned Fire Trial but the krill implied to be organic is upsetting
fun fact in final cutscene mr anubis is taller than other prophets wth tgc
Those poor kids 
yea they need skykid style hug
Shadows/Darkworms (or Dark Clouds/Smokes as I like) do behave differently than Kills, they even have 2 eyes (Krill just 1), yet they can't see us and move around randomly
the belief krill are machines is pretty deep into my mind
soot clouds
where eyees
If you scream you can see them better
I dunno, after dying several times to those things I tdon't think they were moving around randomly
they are moving in pattern
id like the eyes watch me when i sleep
we are just walking coals with ecolocation
what will I do if krill are confirmed organic
so many of my beliefs rely on them being machines
What believes?
You can still work around those?
so the pipes are where the sludge of the light creatures after being turned into power diamonds since bad feeling like hate and vengeance don't get used for the diamonds. so all this bad sludge started to accumulate and started to split the pipes up, (new stuff) collecting shrapnel as they bursted. then the sludge started to pool into the water of wasteland and started binding with small creatures in that water, krill. as the sludge kept building and building then made the krill what they are today, giant dark creatures made out of the hate of the light creatures used for the diamonds
explaines
-keeps organic (ish)
-has explanation for clanking sounds
-why they hate the ancestors
-shape
doesn't explain
-why they hate us
-target/attack sound
-eye lights
I hope
this mural proofing that they once have flying board for the race and i want it back
any more help with this is appreciated guys
Friendship is power guys I’m telling you
i want flying skateboard aaAaaAaa
Two boats
FLYING HOVERBOARDSSSS
also hoverboard?
I’m too biased but wouldn’t the eyelights be
a literal tracking light
yES
By randomly I mean, not chasing us, they do have a pattern , but they don't care about us.
They drain us passively
I guess that explains the flying race-
sky tech is getting more weirder
sort of-
Flying board to race
?
they use the elements to making hoverboards-
I WANT HOVERBOARD
I guess that explains the flying race-
@queen locust that's cool
They aren’t ghosts or anything right?
Bruh we can fly, we don't need hoverboards
hoverboard spirit when
Hoverboards!!!!!!!!!
We want hoverboard
may I steal that as an OC idea
the ark problem will be resolved
steal what? the hoverboard?
I already have two spirits
help me
Omg
looks like we have a hoverboard spirit fight starting over here
how did the elders get the hoverboard?
What if hoverboard can break wind wall
and too many ideas
Will the next season at the Valley
with hoverboard spirit 
also is it only for the elders
YES YES
Put air in
Please
So if they fly with boats... Those aren't hockey sticks
It’s in the picture
next season in valley please AAaAaAAaA
Hmm we never have vault season before, so maybe
:0
I want to crack open vault like an egg
vault has enough we need more valley
Eventually get back to vault
they kinda using air element for the hoverboard tho-
added hoverboard race
Cause you realize WVERYTHING THAT EVERYOKE DID THAT WAS MARGINALLY IMPORTSNT WAS IN VAULT
what?
We dumb kids so we can’t access the info
I don't see where we could get an entrance in Vault, maybe in Valley (if they plan an undewater map)
vault season might have more lore than this season
I stg if they add a violinist spirit
what do I do with my OC
my krill theories might crumble soon
this crack also appeared on vault elevator
seems like this spinny thing also use diamond to power it
my krill theories might crumble soon
@lyric isle what about my krill theory?
I do like yours.
Same.
like this
is diamond power so stronk it crack the thing covering it?
miiiiiight be
Eden diamond 
might just be ice wedging for the valley thing
i do like to imagine thsoe diamonds are some kind of a hivemind with eden diamond as the center of it
when eden diamond went yeet other diamonds will reacted too altho not in bigger scale like the eden diamond
Apparently VAULT HAS A HIDDEN PLANETARIUM??????
wOT
Whereee
About the Two Shields Theory I have an explanation why there are 2 different shapes
But it is against the 2 factions idea
planetarium?
WHERE
where did you get that info
give

b r u h
wow
my hype just went into the void of darkness
reading comprehension is a valuable skill kids
i mean, with vault hair and white outfit we can become an astronout-
white cape, manta suit, maskless, vault hair

sorry the suit costs 1000hearts
i... suddenly am itching to draw that
draw it
do it
do it
give me like 5 hours or smthn you'll see it in fanart chat somewhere
oh man this will be hard to find
give us a ping will ya viridi?
They are scholars so studying the stars isn’t out of the range of possibilities FYI
Could happen
forgot to say but go off tebkanlo
About the Two Shields Theory I have an explanation why there are 2 different shapes
But it is against the 2 factions idea
It's simply explained by the 2 kind of weapons. Two different fighting styles
Who used a sword needs a lightweight protection even for agility sake. While spears needs more defence close range protection, since their are long range
And if swords (SunShields) were against spears (DiamondShields) wouldn't there be more spears cut/break?
They are scholars so studying the stars isn’t out of the range of possibilities FYI
@pulsar iris the Citadel in Valley seems the perfect place to study the sky, with those giant gyroscopes
....there armillary spheres.....
CITADEL AT NIGHT
having a day night cycle in every realm will be awesome
also makes the game heat ur phone into a car engine
only a certain mask should do that
like in the concept art each realm was meant for like a specific era or day and I think it's still like that
indeed
well imma be off to do some art for a project then bed
Night
Also supports of the tst
Are there more shields on one side of wasteland than the other? I think that could tell us if they were working against or for the same thing
Gn
What I guess I’m asking is what symbol dominated which side of the battle field
hey i missed a lot but if anyone wants some krill info to theorize off of, you can't actually land on them (idk how many people know that so)
Why there's just 6 elders in the eden door instead of the seven? You know, thinking that Valley Elder are two
yeah
im not familiar with fanon names sorry?
well if you countt the twins as two then it should include the isle elder
Also, here are the fanon names so you can understand better the lore language
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
well if you countt the twins as two then it should include the isle elder
@sly fractal the twins are the twins, they are considerated as one
Even if their icon/face symbolized two
sksk sibling rivalry
oh shoot i was counting wrong sorry
how do you know for sure that it's Daleth missing?
It sound as a criticism comment? Sorry
no it didn't, i was making a mistake
how do you know for sure that it's Daleth missing?
If you look to the portals at homespace you'll notice at the top the face/icon of the elder, also this face is in their statue in the temple and you can find all of them together in vault temple
The face of Daleth is missing
yep, got me there
Isle is the least corrupted realm, it has no plants to burn or any dark creatures
It have plants!
Yep! In the
cave
oh right
But they are just two or three
isle is also supposed to symbolize birt iirc
Anyway yes, is the least corrupted real...
OMG UNDERSTANDED EVERYTHING
In sky, the realms are from the least corrupted to the most corrupted! Isle is the least and vault the most! Think in it, it... have sense!
potentially
It fits with the eden explosion theory
Vault is the nearest realm to the eden, and the isle is the farest
Vault doesn't really seem that corrupted but then again, its a building so it might have been protected from corruption
Vault is just like a tower inside gw
Vault doesn't really seem that corrupted but then again, its a building so it might have been protected from corruption
@sly fractal Maybe, anyway, vault seems soo destroyed as the Valley
I think that vault is a tower inside the eden mountaint
So when you go to the top, you're in the eden top
well you have to climb up the mountain more once you get in Eden, but yeah it definitely gives you a boost after two realms of going downwards
Right.. valley is going downwards
so is the beginning of gw
And I'm not sure about gw
the beginning where you jump into the cloud whirlpool goes straight down
Yeah but considerate the idea of what the gw social area is litterally floating in clouds
well yeah but it's just a straight flight from valley temple
bassically, the old civilizations had the knowledge to build in technically nothing
yep
Interesting
makes you wonder where they came from
Also i wonder about if Sky is called Sky or it was like a country with an own name
Yeah but I like to call it Horizon cause a horizon is where the land and sky meeet
hm, interesting!
So for wasteland theories I collected some screenshots. This is the same mechanism in forest, meaning wasteland was probably used to mine light as well
Wasteland seemed to be better at it because the diamonds in shipwreck
This sheild was facing away from the entrance, meaning the attackers were diamond shielded, how else did that spear get there??
Three diamond shields were littered around the area, while the rest were sun Sheilds
The wasteland elder has a sun sheild as well! So that implies he was the protector of vault! Or he was on the defensive from the diamond shields
And the forest elder... had diamond mask... did she attack wasteland,!?!?!?
ya'll might be onto something
hmmm. it might be ||The King🗿||
or maybe not.
Also who these guys
although I did see ||The King|| as a diamond star silhouette and has Descendants(Concept) as his subjects
I like to imagine forest and vault have sister like relationship and they once have quarrel with each other-
I think those are soldiers/elite guards
Also why are the shields so freaking huge?!,!?
And the forest elder... had diamond mask... did she attack wasteland,!?!?!?
And it lead to this-
@pulsar iris because the wielder is giant as well-
That would mean the ancestors would have to be in a mech suit or the same size as wasteland elder?
Also why are the shields so freaking huge?!,!?
there's different types of shields:
counter for maces,swords etc.
and one for countering arrows
In this battle though, there are only two sheild designs
They all use the same weapon it seems
yep diamond/star and the sun ones
And both shields are same size
Forest Elder in this situation is the blacksmith while Wasteland is the user for her elite items
(Elders are not Genderized🍤)
Prairie is the crafter/supplier
Forest as the blacksmith
Isle as the ??? maybe guide
Valley as the champions/lead fighters
Wasteland as the ???maybe lead champion
and
Vault as the ????Keeper of the Past
my guess
oohh
Shepperd of new kids~?
also you see isle elder’s birbs all the way through eden and orbit
and the rest of the realms
yes, they were summoned once the elder saw you
its either a guide for the skykid, or a warning to all spirits that the light is back
^
i think its a guide
yes
the birbs
Isle elder has a staff that looks like it was based off a Shepherd's hook, so yeah they could be a shepherd
I
based on the murals from the Cave of Prophecies,
the elders that the "king" entrusted the lights from the cave to are Prairie, Forest, Valley and Wasteland
The voice of @pale estuary is a whisper that echoes through the ages. May we meet again in the Eye of Eden!
That was... beautiful @pastel brook
so what's left are Isle and Vault
Isle elder is on the farthest from Eden
maybe they believed that the skykid(player) will come one day in Isle, holding the flame
Vault, is directly under Eden
so its like an elevator to the place
its a prophecy for a reason but we dont know what it says
The prophecy??! don't trust what the Elders say!!
Hello fellow lore peeps I have a question in regards to a glitch mural I saw and wondering if any of y’all have seen it
yeah
You mean the prophecy mural?
i have seen your future, @pulsar iris, and... well, i won't spoil the surprise 
no the one under a cave in sanctuary island
Yeah
..
It’s the first time it appeared for me
feeling like this be explained in the next season or the season end in this
hmmm, maybe its not a bug owo
im sorry, what did the bot just say about not trusting the elders????
its been there since Sanc
it was confirmed a bug
Tis a bug
Bug wall
The bot's messages are just joke things for the server, they're not official lore or anything. It's just for fun
oh ok
skybot just makes vague jokes about the prophecy
i was about to theorize off of it
You say prophecy it usually jumps in
The prophecy??! don't trust what the Elders say!!
but i wonder what they meant by, Don't trust the elders
The prophecy??! don't trust what the Elders say!!
oof lol but yeah its manage by the mods not eh devs
The prophecy mural did have me reeling and asking so many questions
What other words trigger skybot?
personally, I see the elders as morally grey alongside the supposed king n prince but that’s just meee
prairie, forest, and Valley elders actually snatched the Flame from you on their cutscenes
orwait, i forgot prairie
prophecy lore blahhh (im trying to get the bot don't question me)
It's probably best to leave the bot alone
ah ok
Bots need sleep too
😭
everyone gets tired, even bots
good dreams bot!
thought this might be a good channel to say this - do you guys see connections between hyper light drifter and sky?
What is that
No but do go on-
asking all those who have either played or heard of hyper light drifter
its a great game
basicllly
Oh- is this because they're both about ruined kingdoms?
the clothes are very similar in each, and the character can make sounds AND both about ruined kingdoms, yes
the drifter honks- my life is now complete
Mostly we just think Ancestors used to eat crabs-
Also that’s an Easter egg
Hyper Light Drifter is a single player game (made by Heart Machine, based on Zelda and Super Metroid) about a person who is sick of some sort of heart disease, and who is travelling around to find the cure. He arrives on a land which he feels has the cure, because a dog-type god leads him to it
crab barbecue
When you enter this land, you are greeted by people like you (drifters)
thats all im saying without spoilers
It's basically my favorite game of all time, and I 100% it lol
main character looks like this
@pulsar iris thanks for telling me, i deleted it
im trying to recreate his look in sky
With red cape, the helmet-type mask, season of prophesy legs
and season of prophesy pendant
Oh i thought i shouldve spoilered it😅
I think lore is one of the only channels that allow spoilers
RoseGold I recommend the game if you have a pc or ps4
@tawny wharf I just saw the trailer I’m looking into it!!
awesome
I updated my full lore doc to include season of prophecy. Please rate it

if only @hushed steeple had listened...
Anyway
Good morning to you to skybot 👀
nice doc
Sky bot stays on top of prophecy
woww
im a bit disappointed if not suspicious about fire prophet’s teaching. he only tells them to be proud without being pragmatic about the hardships in the trial, it seems
are there any links/videos or something like that that discusses sky lore? didnt really find much on yt myself
not really, but the pins are full of info @mild obsidian !
I am recreating this character from Hyper Light Drifter in Sky, by using Red Cape, Season of Prophesy Pendant and Leggings, The Firework Back Item, and the Small Face Armor
@sinful anvil actually he teaches them to be brave!
this has something related to lore?
Paleking, good argument for the teachings and traits playing into the king's downfall
Patience, if used wrong, leads to inaction.
Bravery, if used wrong, leads to ignoring warnings.
Resilience, if used wrong, keeps bad things in motion.
Balance, if used wrong, can prevent focus
being brave is not only about huffing your chest, being brave is not happy and easy all the time, and i think he missed that
likewise the prophets kind of provided a simplified version of the traits
what prophets? There is only skybot
well the emote is one thing, im basing my answer off the trial
hey
One must balance (lol, irony) the wisdoms with a counter-wisdom
The counter-wisdoms are absent in the trials
do you think that the counter-wisdoms could be an upcoming season or no?

On one hand, if the wisdoms lead to failure, the prince probably never learned their counters
On the other hand... Perhaps we may.
Hey, I just wanted to make sure. This is the prince right?
i feel like, there are 2 clans. The diamond and the sun. and they waged war with eachother
Weren't the diamonds in forest and the sun in wasteland, or am I getting this messed up
i feel like, there are 2 clans. The diamond and the sun. and they waged war with eachother
@quick grail And, we as the sky kids: desendants of the 2 clans must prevent it from happening
the war
so skykids = 50% sun and 50% diamond
ya but the elder makes this theory so messed up ;-;
the elders are probably the 2 clans
and the fact that all shields including sun shields protect vault which is filled with diamonds
but it’s one elder
and they want us to cover up for them
gw elder has both sun shield and diamond spear
maby the elder was a descendant of both clans like we are
? Why would he be descendant
Like are there generations?
this implies that spirits can procreate
also we’d see more spirits with both then
Counter-patience: The wisdom of urgency. Sometimes you can't afford to wait.
Counter-bravery: The wisdom of fear - understanding that there is risk in the unknown and that the best decision may be to run.
Counter-Resilience: The wisdom of yielding: Sometimes the cost is too high. Sometimes the reward is too low. In these situations, it's best to walk away and reallocate your resources.
Counter-Balance: The wisdom of extremes - occasionally things are worth your entire focus
Also we have seen a baby ancestor in Valley
exactly
The confident sightseer
excuse me I must see this
and the valley elders are twins
I think that the sun (wasteland) was with the king because we see the sun symbol on sheilds in wasteland. Their symbol also kinda looks like the king's mask, but that's kind of a stretch. The diamonds (forest) were against the king's ideologies (I think that the people in forest found out how to make power diamonds, and he abused their power) The people in forest knew the power of them, but the king ignored their warnings. This lead to the king's corruption
Oh elders. Elders were never babies. :(
elders were always elders, they don’t seem to age
and i don’t think they were necessarily « born » bc of this
but they are adults ??? and some are old and the valley ones are twins
they were created as adults
or whatever age they are
they were never anything before that
they didn’t grow up, they just
are
are
these stains lookin kinda sus innit
I'm sad I didn't pop my head in here after fire trial was released
whats the fire supposed to represent in the elder cutscenes
I kinda like to interpret it as us restoring their connection to Megan- lighting them up and all
The fire is the light that they've lost, and we're returning it to them- if that makes sense?
Idk that's just what I think-
My head canon is sorta related to urs
Our job is to bring back the elders right, and we do it with our flame, or in other words, “light”
Their home is in the light and when we first see the elders, they are dark and empty, so when we reconnect them to the light using our flame, this is what brings them back home
don’t worry citizens, your hero is here
yes
yes
the moderators are broken, but I'm here
aight skybot who forced you to bully the mods-
That's... concerning- Skybot-
the mods are merely extensions of skybot
Mmm..what is this mean?
it's a bug
Is it beta content?
It’s a sanctuary bug, nite
I know it's a bug, but where did it come from? Was it part of sanctuary season?
And if so, does anyone have the full mural?
If not, does that count as a bug from beta that shouldn't be there? Like the gold child on the boat mural bug in prophecy cave before?
I'm very sorry for so many questions, I just wanna be sure so I don't spread misinformation
Here
To be honest, this mural seems to be connected, and all the elders may be watching the birth of a child of light.
Thanks for all the shots lmao- this bug's keeping me hydrated
It's a strange little bug that persisted for a lot of updates akjkjakj I wish that thing was connected-
Ohh
So it's just a bug? Not even related to beta?
probably tgc justr wanted us to be spoiled for Prophecy when Sanc is still running
even tho there are a lot of bug reports for it, they didnt remove it
Mmm. Originally, this graffiti had five elders drawn at the end of the paradise season, and today I checked and found that there was a child of light and an elder of the wasteland.
Also those mural drawing look similar to the big murals in Porphecy Caves
that's why it's unfortunate that it's dismissed as a bug-
Anyway- disregarding that for a minute, I wonder why it even looks like that- having a giant glowy boi just laying down
GOLDEN CHILD GONE?
With the Elders gathered around it
Candle..
Oh dude you just have to light up the pots again
Ohhhhh
Gosh I thought it was permanently there lol
I thought it disappearing is some sort of symbolism
If you light it up, you'll see the next scene four times.
So i did some searching and there are only these boats broke and spread in isle



















































Maybe the world of sky was filled up with water????



