lore-discussion-spoilers

[wispy cedar]

if they're already lit up just fly to them

[neat fractal]

Oh I see, thank you!

[mortal viper]

Megan needs to be told children are not suited to solve complex problems
I mean, it's the second time in a rowl she tries this and look where it got us: a bunch of honking wax stealing bellbrained clay children runing wild over ruins, pestering the dead for hair and pants

[open quail]

Megan watched too much magical girl anime 😔

[novel marten]

‘Hey I know you died in a mining incident and all that but can you pls give me the Glowy Tears’

[mortal viper]

this is not a YA novel, megan

[open quail]

BELLBRAINED

[queen locust]

honking wax stealing skckdkdk

[mortal viper]

give us some functional adults that can sort things out

[queen locust]

They gave us Elders but I dunno if I'd call them functional

[novel marten]

I thought the elders were supposed to be the functional adults to sort things out

[open quail]

Can you imagine how terrible it would be if the children were the elders instead and the elders were manifested???? Absolutely nutso

[novel marten]

Imagine the Elder cutscenes but with Sky children

[mortal viper]

Valley elders

cute

[queen locust]

Arthritis Elder

[mortal viper]

give me

[wispy cedar]

pestering the dead for hair and pants killed me

i mean technically it's true right

[lethal stump]

child valley elders....makes me think of this concept
they used to be so smol

[wispy cedar]

child valley elders....makes me think of this concept
they used to be so smol
@lethal stump KEKEKDN SO CUTE

[queen locust]

Sm o l

[broken basin]

Who's the one with Prairie elder

[wispy cedar]

looks like a sky kid

[lethal stump]

in the middle is a skid i think

or prenc, perhaps

[novel marten]

They were so tiny..

[broken basin]

itsy bitsy

[spring blaze]

i will forever be grateful for the fat labourer design

tgc thank you

look at the prairie elder. so huggable

[wispy cedar]

Ikr they looking like a plushie

[lethal stump]

chomky

[novel marten]

Prairie elder has dad energy and I love him for it

[wispy cedar]

the valley elders look only slightly taller than the skykid

[stone adder]

child valley elders....makes me think of this concept
they used to be so smol
@lethal stump It's just me or the vault elder seems to have a sort of halo in this concept art?

[spring blaze]

definitely not just you

[lethal stump]

oh yeah they used to have a halo

[spring blaze]

lookin holy

[short owl]

Another form for Vault

[pure leaf]

I'm proud of this.

[wispy cedar]

is sir hoot shorter than the valley twins

[pure leaf]

Carry on...

[woeful quartz]

Why is the vault in the mountain?

[pure leaf]

Good question.

[lethal stump]

rhythm guide is the shortest guide, so she’s probably shorter than the valley elders

[pure leaf]

I think its because the vault is the entrance to eden.

[wispy cedar]

rhythm guide is the shortest guide, so she’s probably shorter than the valley elders
@lethal stump sksksksk smal

[short owl]

Everything revolves around this kid. Even the best would struggle with that pressure

[queen locust]

Man maybe that's why he messed up- he crumbled under pressure

[wispy cedar]

[queen locust]

Like 'maw I never signed up for this responsibility take me out of here'

'I'm barely even legal ma-'

[stone adder]

Oh i was wondering something while candle run in wasteland: the ruin of the temple in the first area of gw it's alike the forest elder's temple. But there's no statue of the gw elder there...we can found his shrine only before the entrance of vault.
So if that last building is the temple of gw elder, whose is the first one?

[queen locust]

Nobody's- it's the ruins of a factory Laura

At least- that's what it looked like- the ruins of a diamond production site

[hushed steeple]

[queen locust]

Anyway it's late as heck where I am- so I'll leave it at that-

[woeful quartz]

Aren’t the diamonds made in forest?

[queen locust]

Night guys keep loring

[wispy cedar]

goodnight vir

[stone adder]

At least- that's what it looked like- the ruins of a diamond production site
@queen locust oh i see...thanks

[woeful quartz]

Good night

[queen locust]

Nope- if you inspect the ruins of the first temple you'll find that it's the same as the Forest temple

okay no really I should sleep before I get into that

Good night for real

[willow shoal]

[short owl]

Wait

If I wasn't typing here

Then... Where did I?!

[viscid coyote]

I suppose everyone here adored the prophecy cave’s transomation, right?

[hushed steeple]

yesss

the murals make me drool for lore

[vast haven]

In light of all these murals, I'm really leaning into the king is us theory

[hushed steeple]

Let's think about who's the shiny child on the mural

[ashen bloom]

prince

[pale estuary]

so the symbol this season
is actually the crown of the King?

[ashen bloom]

o

but what if the prince becomes the king

Bc everywhere else prince is a shiny boi

[pale estuary]

eh? didn't he got crowned already?
based on the murals in prophecy

[pastel brook]

the future is already written bruh...

[ashen bloom]

wdym

him gathering the lights could be his coronation and crownedness

or smthn

[pale estuary]

hmm, true

but mostly, when someone gets crowned as king

all people of a kingdom gathers to glorify the event

[ashen bloom]

didn’t they tho?

all the elders came and there were tinies in the arks

tinies as in spirits

[pale estuary]

tinies?

oh

the Ark spirits are merchants

but

[ashen bloom]

well there’s many arks

[pale estuary]

i still wonder what the 6 lights in Ark are

[ashen bloom]

they seem like fragments of elements

[pale estuary]

elements huh

[ashen bloom]

Since they restore the things

especially the blue one

Which just so happens to be the same color as water

*the water element

[pale estuary]

mhm, the blue purified the toxic water

[ashen bloom]

ya

And it gave it fish XD

[pale estuary]

XD lmao

fish got summoned out of nowhere

[ashen bloom]

red did a light thing too which could be fireness

Magic fish

[pale estuary]

Red gave the Murals found around the ark ship

Blue purified the water

Cyan summoned the oars to open up the clouds, to summon winds

Green summoned grass and flowers around the pond

[ashen bloom]

so it matches

[pale estuary]

Purple decorated the ark

orange gave shops

[ashen bloom]

Maybe purple is the embodiment of magic?

[pale estuary]

maybe

[ashen bloom]

And orange is capitalism

[crisp belfry]

ahha

c a p i t a l i s m

[pale estuary]

lmao

[crisp belfry]

the final element

[ashen bloom]

XDDD

[pale estuary]

well, they are Merchants

[crisp belfry]

lol

[odd wasp]

Hey there...

[ashen bloom]

hi

[pale estuary]

ohwell XD

hellow

Eyvari, thanks for the discussion XD

[odd wasp]

Since fire is live....is there a theory for the murals

[ashen bloom]

XD Np

[pale estuary]

I'll sleep early today for tomorrow's teaser of the TS

night peeps~

[lyric isle]

To clarify
Are krills confirmed organic

I have a lot of theories based around them being war machines

[ashen bloom]

I have been informed by @fossil mason that skykids are actually final ducklings

[lethal stump]

we have know clue if krills are organic or not

[ashen bloom]

*ugly not final

[lyric isle]

good

(I’m just worried, I have some very in-depth thoughts on it I’ll structure properly and talk about with you all one day...)

[ashen bloom]

wait I have a t h e o r y

so what if the prophecy was that the prince was gonna become the king and that would result in the explosion so they wanted the prince to not do that. But they didn’t listen and then the prince completed all the trials went to eden and couldn’t handle the power, resulting in the explosion

[hybrid pecan]

Is there a guide or something for the lore? 🥺 I really wanna get into it

[ashen bloom]

and then prince was Megan’s child and were fractures or remnants or smthn of prince trying to learn what happened and a t o n e

there’s some docs

Check pinned

[hybrid pecan]

Aaa thanks!

[ashen bloom]

Yeeee

also @lyric isle I think krills are organic but we’re bred or smthn to become spotlight attack things for mysterious diamond vs sun war (tho I don’t think the war was actually diamond vs sun bc the elder has both the diamond spear and the sun shield)

s o m e o n e a t t e n t i o m m e

[hushed steeple]

No

[ashen bloom]

[hushed steeple]

If that thing is organic, then its all the more creepy. Its like you can hear its bones break or dislocate all the time.

[ashen bloom]

if it even has bones

[hushed steeple]

ugh

[ashen bloom]

Tis a wiggly shrimp

[trim jay]

uhhh- whos megan im not caught up with the lore tbh dhhdhdb can somebody give me a simplified version of what happened pls

[boreal basalt]

Hi guys ^^ I would like to know if there are some informations about why the king (or prince) has been corrupted? And how?

[mortal viper]

Megan = megabird

[floral elm]

I just got into sky and I have a theory. You know when you spawn in as a new player on the isle and you don’t have any wings yet and there aren’t any spirits awakened yet (I think, correct me if I’m wrong on this), so who gave you the wings?? My theory is that new players’ characters are actually characters who had their memory wiped after realizing they were doomed to keep repeating the cycle of the game over and over, and they want out. They got tired of trying again and agian to save everyone in eden only to die and fail and be reborn just to fail agian. so basically my theory is that the character you play as has been repeating the cycle so much they tried to escape and live their life only to have their wings and memories taken away and that’s the character you play as when you first start the game. Thus the cycle repeats

[mortal viper]

and no, daleur, no info on how or why, just theories. You are welcome to drop yours here too

[heady sinew]

There's no need for spoiler tags here!

@floral elm I have a theory that involves Mind-Wiping! Tho it's a bit different. But I definetely agree that something happened to the Skykid's memories

[floral elm]

@heady sinew :0 what’s your theory?

[heady sinew]

I should write this all down someday and keep it stored in a document for copy-pasting but basically I think the Skykid is the reincarnation/fragment of the Eden Prince/King

And I'm even more serious about it since the Fire Trial

[boreal basalt]

@mortal viper hmm currently I haven't 😅😅
But I want to work on an personal project based maybe on prince or king stories

[mortal viper]

oh that would be great!

[boreal basalt]

But can u summarize me some theories about the corruption?

[heady sinew]

Most corruption theories involve greed and such. A hungriness for power that ended up causing the Eden explosion (Reasons are unknown but some people think the huge diamond at Eden is a failed Power Diamond experiment meant to store even more power than before)

[boreal basalt]

Oohh didn't know about power diamond? What is that?

Sry for asking so much question 😭😭

[solar relic]

an example of power diamonds would be those diamonds on doors you light up so that they open, they are also used to make platforms float - this can be seen in the valley platform in front of the temple entrance if you fly below it, and also the vault elevator if you ever happen to get that occurrence of the camera zooming into the meditation circle spot, as the elevator goes up you see a power diamond on its bottom

[boreal basalt]

I see okok thx!!

[floral elm]

I wonder where all the rocks in eden are coming from

[pulsar iris]

Power diamonds of past harnessed light creatures

[solar relic]

the red rocks in eden seem to be from the exploding giant diamond

[pulsar iris]

But since we are creatures of light, we can trigger the diamonds at will

Makes me wonder if we and ancestors all existed at the same time... if our power would be exploited or used 🤔🤔

[fast jasper]

probably a yes to that

[pulsar iris]

Yikes 😖😖😓

...if that were the case.. where there be children of darkness?

[floral elm]

OO

[pulsar iris]

*would

[fast jasper]

idk

[solar relic]

judging from the murals we only ever see ancestor figures/elders aside from the shiny kid revealed during the fire trial, so i don’t really think skids existed at the same time as ancestors

[floral elm]

I like the children of darkness idea tho

[pulsar iris]

No we know that

[desert sun]

i dont really think skykids existed when the ancestors were alive

oh nvm

[pulsar iris]

We didn’t it’s a theory

[solar relic]

ohh oops misread

[pulsar iris]

Like what if we lived at the same time as them, would we be milked for power like the mantas

[sturdy condor]

Probably

[pulsar iris]

And then turn into a krill adjacent being

[solar relic]

probably yes

[floral elm]

Might have to draw thta

[solar relic]

as for turning into a krill, maybe?

it’s certainly an interesting idea 👁️ 👁️

[pulsar iris]

So if these children of darkness existed....

[desert sun]

someone had a theory once that skykids Did exist when ancestors were alive and that they were turned into crabs haha

[pulsar iris]

😭😭😭

[floral elm]

CRABS

[desert sun]

but that was a while ago

[pulsar iris]

Not sure about that, cause they’re crabs that are docile

[fast jasper]

[boreal basalt]

Krills could be a light creature before?

[pulsar iris]

I was thinking krill was a fallen elder manta

[floral elm]

Imagine a happy glowing krill

[pulsar iris]

Maybe...

[fast jasper]

i think they’re evolved fire worms from the fire trial

[pulsar iris]

An incorruptef dead manta turns into a memory like vault

[solar relic]

what i would give to have a krill origin story

[floral elm]

I feel like krill are some part machine

[hushed steeple]

Season of krills

[pulsar iris]

And a corrupted manta lives eternally as a krill

[boreal basalt]

So krills were manta before?

[pulsar iris]

Maybe?

[fast jasper]

nooobody knowwww

[pulsar iris]

We know the power was milked

[boreal basalt]

Then die and became corrupted?

[pulsar iris]

We knoe that krill hate light creatures, or at least try and take it from them

[floral elm]

Like the way they attack and find you with the light blinking and stuff seems very machine like

[hushed steeple]

[pulsar iris]

But the power diamonds where a man made resource

There has to be a consequence

To overusing nature right?

The mantas at the end of forest were locked up

While the forest elder created diamond

[floral elm]

Maybe people were experimenting with making the mantas power more powerful and created the krill

[pulsar iris]

Diamond received power from mantas, but what happened to the mantas after extraction?

For what purpose?

[boreal basalt]

Oooh interesting 🤔

[pulsar iris]

The only group that used them where the Rythm family

Besides that they seem just like wild animals

[desert sun]

i had a whole theory about the way krills roared when they attacked, but it wad a bit of a stretch

[boreal basalt]

Ancestors just wanted to get more power?

[pulsar iris]

👀 let’s hear it @desert sun

[desert sun]

itll be a bit to type but ok

[floral elm]

:0

[solar relic]

you can kinda compare it to the real world - advancing technology at the expense of nature

[pulsar iris]

Yea my same thought

It’s a common theme in tgc games

[floral elm]

I like how each realm you can see more technology come into play

[pulsar iris]

Yea where isle is basically untouched and vault is completely manmade

[floral elm]

The prairie had about nothing and then you see some buildings in the valley and then ya the vault

And something happened in the wasteland 🤔

[pulsar iris]

Something indeed

Let’s think about the locations...

Isle, forest, wasteland and vault are located on the ground

[floral elm]

Hmmm I was just thinking that the krill might have been somehow created in the wasteland but why did some go to eden then

[pulsar iris]

While prarie and valley are higher up in the clouds and mountains

[reef plover]

Guys I forgot some lore history, could someone remind me what the child of light is? I know that winged light is the imprint of the child of light. Also who is the prince again? I know he has something here with Eden but I forgot that too.

[pulsar iris]

Isle isn’t effected by krill because it’s too far away

Prarie is in the clouds, but corruption still exists.... IN ALL REALMS

[proper mirage]

i think the doc will help ya out with that

[pulsar iris]

at different levels!!!

[floral elm]

:0 explain more

[pulsar iris]

Except vault maybe..?

Remeber there are dark plants and trees

[floral elm]

Oh yeahh

[desert sun]

so basically, i noticed that whenever skykids honk it seems to be an outburst of light. you use honks to recharge light, and whenever you deep call, nearby lit candles react to the call (try it).
one day i realized krill do a similar thing, as they have a call as well

so, i got a krill next to a candle cake in wasteland to see if its call produced the same effect on candles as a honk, and from what i saw, it did
so basically. ????? i never really drew a conclusion from this

[pulsar iris]

??????????????

KRILL ARE CORRUPTED MANTAS!!!!

[desert sun]

ill try to send a vid of the effect im talking sboutt

[proper mirage]

but why they so long

[round elbow]

WOAHHG

[reef plover]

Don't forget krill have a light of their own

[floral elm]

Ooo that’s interesting :OO

[pulsar iris]

Yes!

[floral elm]

I think that kinda proves the corrupted manta theory

[pulsar iris]

And ! I just realized this! When you ride a manta, there’s a white spotlight, and purple glitter keeping you attached!

[floral elm]

OH YEAH

[pulsar iris]

The krill have spotlights as well!

[floral elm]

Yesss

[round elbow]

Wowww

[pulsar iris]

We did it guys

We solved sky

[proper mirage]

i think the spot on the mantas is just to show where you are on it

[round elbow]

The biggest brains

[proper mirage]

like a game mechanic thing

[floral elm]

So krill are corrupted mantas

But why?

[pulsar iris]

Maybe it’s just mechanics but it fits really well in the lore

[proper mirage]

eh

[pulsar iris]

Well back to forest

It was forebidden

[round elbow]

RoseGold: I’ve connected the dots
Moth man: you didn’t connect ******
RoseGold: I’ve connected them

[floral elm]

The dots have been connected

[pulsar iris]

We know forest was a diamond factory

[pulsar iris]

We also know at the end of forest that the manta where locked up

[desert sun]

the halo thingy

[pulsar iris]

So yes krill are mantas

So my guess is the trees have some sort of

Power to extract light

And they were used to extract power, and store it in the diamond

[round elbow]

gasp is that why the trees have cloud leaves?? They rain and it extracts light?

[pulsar iris]

Mantas, jellies and butterflies and birds all have the power to recharge as well as sky kids

[floral elm]

If the forest was where the mantas were being used then how come we first encounter the krill two realms later?

[pulsar iris]

...maybe???? Why else would the trees be knocked down

Because... maybe the krill were tired after extraction

[round elbow]

Sneepy

[pulsar iris]

And they put them in wasteland for them to deal with the consequences

[floral elm]

OH idea maybe the wasteland was another forest at one point and it’s a wasteland because all the light was completely drained from the area so the trees died

[desert sun]

^

[pulsar iris]

Yeah!!! Cause you also have to remeber

[desert sun]

you can see dead trees in ark

[round elbow]

Could have been burned down, that coincides with the prophecy lore I think

[pastel brook]

beware the ||mods||

[pulsar iris]

Each realm progressed with technology faster than the last

[round elbow]

i-

Thanks sky bot

[pulsar iris]

@desert sun dead trees?

[floral elm]

Or maybe the ansestors used the trees to build the valley city when they had no use anymore

[pulsar iris]

(Maybe that means they’re watching us haha)

[desert sun]

when you first enter forgotten ark, you can find dead trees around the area

[pulsar iris]

That could work too

Hmmm 🤔

[desert sun]

they are relatively small though

[round elbow]

Do you?? I’m gonna go check ark I don’t remember seeing them

[desert sun]

not as big as prairie or forest

[proper mirage]

theyre where the boat stops

[pulsar iris]

Yea!!!

[floral elm]

Hmmm I’ll have to check them out later

[pulsar iris]

So you’re saying that the boats stopped in valley?

[proper mirage]

? :0

[floral elm]

Wot??

[pulsar iris]

..

...back to the boats..

Maybe at some point they didn’t need them anymore?

[floral elm]

Wait what boats?

[round elbow]

heading to ark now to look at some trees

[desert sun]

flying boats, for transportation

[pulsar iris]

Just boats in general I think

[floral elm]

Ohh ok

[desert sun]

since spirits didnt have winged light to fly around, they used the boats

[pulsar iris]

Cause you can see them in prarie, isle, forest,

They created a big one for ark, but I think it’s the only boat that size

[proper mirage]

i feel like most of them broke down tho since they dont have the paddles like theyre supposed to

[pulsar iris]

As well as it being crashed landed

Yea....

Or once again.. all the power was corrupted

Do you think edens corruption leaked into the other realms after the collaspe?

[round elbow]

boats are powered by power diamonds i believe

[floral elm]

That makes sense, maybe eden is why those dark plants are everywhere

[pulsar iris]

!!!!!

Eventually as the light returned

The corruption of eden faded but not completely

[round elbow]

There are in fact trees

[pulsar iris]

But it seems like vault was sealed? There was no corruption present there

!!!!!!!!

[floral elm]

Yeah that’s what I was about to say 🤔🤔

[desert sun]

crabs 🤷‍♂️

[pulsar iris]

Maybe the krill got too powerful, and after the collaspe

The acolytes locked themselves in

[floral elm]

Somehow the vault is protected even though the door to eden is inside it

[proper mirage]

crab

[pulsar iris]

But... where are their graves?

[round elbow]

vault is like..... questionably real for me???

[pulsar iris]

Must be a strong door or something

[desert sun]

vault is like..... questionably real for me???
@round elbow this, exactly

[pulsar iris]

!!! Nvm their graves are in the praying room

[floral elm]

Speaking of graves what’s up with that dead snow bird in the valley

[proper mirage]

they have three doors blocking eden lol

three giant doors

[desert sun]

the snow bird is another leftover from sky beta

[floral elm]

Oh ok

[pulsar iris]

Yea they used to pray for it I think?

[desert sun]

like the golden pot in the bottom floor of vault

it was tied into the manta call

[round elbow]

snow bird and golden pot are leftover from beta, they used to be quests

[pulsar iris]

...golden pot?

[round elbow]

golden pot on the first floor of vault

[pulsar iris]

Ohh wait

I think I know what you’re talking about

[floral elm]

There’s some golden pots in the crashed ship in wasteland too

Not sure if that’s significant

[pulsar iris]

We’re they just transporting something or trying to escape?

[proper mirage]

mm göld pöt

[desert sun]

those are different pots, you see those pots in the forest temple as well

[round elbow]

different pots, the one in vault is 100% a beta thing

[pulsar iris]

So you don’t think they’re lore related?

[proper mirage]

probably not

[pulsar iris]

But vault is sus highkey

[round elbow]

i mean the one in vault isn't but the ones in wasteland might be?? idk

[desert sun]

the fact that that bird is still in the game implies that there used to be other types of animals in sky

[pulsar iris]

No corruption??? At all?? It’s like it shut itself off from the world

[desert sun]

also evidenced by rhythms final cutscene

[pulsar iris]

I thought the birds were summoned with magic from the isle elder

[proper mirage]

the snow bird looks like the birds in the praries social space

[floral elm]

O true

[desert sun]

it is just unnaturally big idk

[pulsar iris]

So you’re saying back then there used to be more varieties of birds?

[proper mirage]

alpha bird

[floral elm]

That would make sense

[pulsar iris]

...maybe they’re hidden?

[floral elm]

Maybe the big birds were like mantas and they got completely wiped out instead of corrupted

[pulsar iris]

Cause remeber we haven’t even visited the cities in valley

Also a weird thing about the krill? There’s like 3 different varieties of manta but only one kind of krill?

[desert sun]

maybe its a sculpture instead of an actual bird makes things less hard

[proper mirage]

well ya it seems like its made out of ice or snow

[tough path]

speaking of birds, where did rhythm QG go in the ending cutscene of SoR? Did he turn into the giant bird?

[proper mirage]

oh you mean like just a creature?

[pulsar iris]

...I want more dark creatures dammit

[desert sun]

if sanctuary truly implies that things like whales and mantas are evolutions of birds, then ???

[pulsar iris]

I think it was implied in the concept art as well

[floral elm]

Well the different types of manta seem to be based on location so they’re all the same thing, so I think if two different mantas were corrupted they would both be krill

Welp that was late

[proper mirage]

i think there was a scrapped design for a manta based on a dove

[desert sun]

where is my season of darkness

[proper mirage]

but since its not actually in the game we cant be so sure

[pulsar iris]

Hmmm 🤔

But since they were different types manta, you’d think their krill design would be a variant right?

...we’ve seen so little of sky

[proper mirage]

what if theyre just a bunch of crusty burnt mantas in a conga line

[pulsar iris]

😭😭😭😭😭

[floral elm]

LMAO

[desert sun]

sky gets a lot more weird when you remember that we are probably only seeing a small portion of the world

[pulsar iris]

Yea

[floral elm]

Maybe there are more variants of krill but we can’t tell bc they’re all so spoopy

[pulsar iris]

Those wind walls

[floral elm]

I want to visit the cities 😭

[desert sun]

that would be SO COOL

[proper mirage]

yeessss i wanna walk around in it and ADVENTURE

[broken basin]

I want to visit the colonies in valley,
Hope for a Season

[floral elm]

Give us a season of CITIES

[desert sun]

season of civilization

expansion??

[pulsar iris]

Think about how little daily life we see from the ancestors in skyVvb

??

Like did anyone live in isle?

[floral elm]

Ooh just had a thought

[pulsar iris]

Did ppl pilgrimage there to remeber where they came from?? Where did they come from???

[broken basin]

Hey, next Season might be Winter realted and winter= valley
Also, Valley is the only place that hasn't received much new things yet

[pulsar iris]

Who WAS WASTELAND FIGHTING!!!

[proper mirage]

KRILL MAYBE

[pulsar iris]

Oh thank god PLEASE

[desert sun]

i used to think isle was just a port or dock, seeing as how noone lives there. and the isle elder was there to usher people into the kingdom

[pulsar iris]

but if there were refugees and survivors... tjat implies civilians

Which means that wastland wasn’t always a battle field

[short owl]

Given the location... There aren't a lot of possibilities beyond insurgency. Wasteland is between the castle and Valley.

Not a lot of room for ourside forces to invade

[pulsar iris]

Cause if it was always a battleground why let normal ppl live there

[floral elm]

You know how each realm is less corrupted than the last and less technological and things well maybe it didn’t start in isle and move forward with tech maybe it started in eden and spread from there and the tech disappeared the further away they got ?

[pulsar iris]

?!?!?!?!?

😱

[proper mirage]

the isle being a port makes a bit of sense actually
the temple is like a lighthouse and it basically has a dock

[desert sun]

maybe valley and wasteland were part of one massive city structure, but wasteland is jusy the area that ended up war torn

[pulsar iris]

... cause vault can shut itself in...

[floral elm]

Maybe wasteland was a forest city

[pulsar iris]

And valley is in the clouds!

Would make sense why the krill aren’t in any of the other realms

[proper mirage]

theres tons of statues in wasteland i think so it makes sense to think it was a city

[pulsar iris]

I think clouds are like their wind wall or something

Maybe it was lower valley?

[desert sun]

wasteland with valleys color scheme

artists come get yalls juice

[floral elm]

I like the forest idea from earlier it could have been a forest city

[pulsar iris]

The city does stretch lower down the lower mountains

[floral elm]

I would try to draw that but I can’t do landscape 😭

[pulsar iris]

@floral elm like a forest part 2 but worse off?

[proper mirage]

maybe krill can only live in the shade
hence only being found in the wasteland and whatnot

[pulsar iris]

Yea there’s no light in wasteland

[floral elm]

Yea kinda like a mix between forest and valley

[pulsar iris]

OH WOW I WANT TO SEE THAT SO BADDDDD

[floral elm]

Imma try to sketch ittt :OOO

[proper mirage]

me too

well i want to but i might be too lazy lol

[pulsar iris]

Ok so

Back to wasteland

Who are the big bones

Why the big bones

Are they chonky?

[desert sun]

good question!

[proper mirage]

in the graveyard?

[floral elm]

Whales

[pulsar iris]

So they’re chonky boi

[floral elm]

We only see like one whale right?

[pulsar iris]

Do they go to wasteland specifically to die then?

[floral elm]

OOH

OOO

[pulsar iris]

We see them a lot but I’m not sure if it’s the same whale

[desert sun]

there was a theory that whales were farmed in wasteland

[floral elm]

KRILL BE WHALES??

[desert sun]

like herded

[pulsar iris]

!!!!

[solar relic]

some of us call those graveyard creatures whurtles as they have the skulls of a turtle and the bodies of a whale

[pulsar iris]

So wasteland whales?

Maybe they revolted?

[grim tundra]

Maybe the poison water killed them. You see the one whale on the way in from valley.

[desert sun]

righttt didnt like ash or reika say that they were based off of turtle skulls

[solar relic]

there was a theory that they were killed in order to create the large power diamond in eden

[floral elm]

Whale might have been the same as mantas but that would actually make more sense than mantas being krill bc krill are like loNg and mantas are ғʟᴀᴛ

[pulsar iris]

That diamond is big

[floral elm]

And the some whales died and that’s the bone?

S?

Bones?

[pulsar iris]

And we don’t know the powers the whales have since we can’t interact with them directly like the other creatures of light

[desert sun]

creatures of light leave bones behind once they die of unnatural caused

[solar relic]

the diamond is big but so are those creatures

[crisp belfry]

You know how the elders all used our flames for something? what the heck did the valley siblings use it for? was it just a game or something

[desert sun]

or smthn like that

[crisp belfry]

they just yeeted it to the sky

[pulsar iris]

Yes

[grim tundra]

We know krills can eat small manta. That's about all we know for sure.

[floral elm]

It became the sun

[pulsar iris]

They fixed all their needs

So they had time for recreation unlike the other realms that were trying to survive

Wasteland may have been valley part 2

But since they were elder manta farming the krill were created

Still doesn’t explain why we don’t see bones anywhere else

[crisp belfry]

hmmm maybe- but yeah valley seems kinda different from the other realms. the biggest concern i have is the cheering- like nobodysthere to actualllycheer XD

[desert sun]

manta bones in vault

[pulsar iris]

Are elder mantas immortal until murdered

[proper mirage]

im a bit late but whales are based on dunkleosteuses not turtles i think

[floral elm]

AThe VUALT BONES

[pulsar iris]

(Might be a design thing?

Vault bones

VAULT BONES????

[crisp belfry]

so like jellyfish irl? they can be immortal unless they are killed or lack of resources haha

[pulsar iris]

waitttttttttttttttttttttttt

Yea

[proper mirage]

ribcage in the vault

[pulsar iris]

Cause they don’t die anywhere else

[solar relic]

i'm a bit late but i thought you'd find these concept art pictures interesting 👁️👁️

[pulsar iris]

!!!!!!!!!!

[desert sun]

creatures leave bones behind whenever they die unnaturally

[floral elm]

How did the whales get in the vualt 🤔🤔🤔🤔

[pulsar iris]

MAYBE VAULT@FIGUTED OUT A CURE FOR CORRUPTION

[crisp belfry]

isnt that called a whale

[pulsar iris]

AND IT CREATED MEMORIES????

[proper mirage]

yuh whale

[desert sun]

maybe the scholars were studying the bones?

[pulsar iris]

But it was too late to save the realms?

[crisp belfry]

i like how a lot of creatures in sky are just irl sea creatures but make it shiny and fly XD

[floral elm]

NYbe they tried to seal the vualt to seal the world from eden and save the realms

[pulsar iris]

Yeye the dev team wanted sea creatures on land lmao

[proper mirage]

plottwist: were actually in the ocean thats why the creatures “fly”

[pulsar iris]

Save the history of the realms

[crisp belfry]

fire under water fire under water

[pulsar iris]

Cause as you ascend you see each realms constellations

[desert sun]

spongebob physics, beach and fire underwarer

[crisp belfry]

WE HAVE BEEN LIED TO

[floral elm]

WOA

[solar relic]

from the vault mural of vault it looks like the cosmic mantas were summoned into existence by the scholars due to the glyphs used - same/similar as the ones on the prairie bells that summon light creatures into existence

[pulsar iris]

Ohhhhhh

So they already existed?

So are the memories the manta version of ancestors

[floral elm]

Are the vualt mantas different from the light mantas or just look different?

[pulsar iris]

They’re both blue come to think of it

[short owl]

Hmm... It occurs to me that the concepts had ashes fall off creatures who died via Eden

[floral elm]

Oh hmmmm

[short owl]

That suggests that the Eden Mountain was made out of ashes

[crisp belfry]

woah

[proper mirage]

wait a minute

[pulsar iris]

👀

[floral elm]

Maybe most of the whales died in eden

[proper mirage]

the monsters in the fire trial
they look like theyre made of ashes

[pulsar iris]

After the collaspe

!!!!

[floral elm]

OH

[crisp belfry]

the fire trial made me feel so dumb d idnt know which way to go :D

[pulsar iris]

Me to me to

[solar relic]

from canon lore doc
i was thinking the memory mantas were their own separate creature, like a subspecies?

[short owl]

Without living creatures to move the nutrients from those ashes away from the "holey site" (living creatures were forbidden), all the material of the world would slowly migrate to the mountain

[pulsar iris]

It took 2 tries and 3 ppl to complete it

[floral elm]

I haven’t gotton to it yet :,D

[proper mirage]

they put out your light and their eyes are the little bits of glow left

[short owl]

Unless this location is regularly moved, the systen is inherently unsustainable

[crisp belfry]

what do you guys think about our kiddos being able to whip out a candle randomly

[pulsar iris]

We got lil pockets in our heart

[proper mirage]

comes out of the glow hole on our chest lol

[pulsar iris]

Yeye

[floral elm]

Wa bam candle

[crisp belfry]

i noticed that when u take out a candle the lil spot on ur chest goes POOF

[pulsar iris]

That’s our life right there

[crisp belfry]

awww thats cute

[desert sun]

its a neat little detail

[pulsar iris]

So when we touch lights we share the flame for a moment

[floral elm]

So when you’re sharing light with someone you’re sharing your life source

[proper mirage]

“bro lets touch souls”

[floral elm]

Awww

[crisp belfry]

its like taking out ur heart to light up the world and other people

[pulsar iris]

Also notice when wearing vanilla clothes the light dims and brightens with the emotes

[proper mirage]

dude i just realized...

[solar relic]

i think this is why the candle has its own scene at the end of the credits right before rebirth

[pulsar iris]

Hm?

[desert sun]

okay call me crazy, but do newer players run differently than older players?? like it looks like they try to look at everything

[floral elm]

?

[pulsar iris]

Got that clueless moth look

[grim tundra]

Yes. Moths flap around wildly and are attracted to shiny things

[floral elm]

As a newish player I can confirm this

[desert sun]

like their actual run cycle i mean

[crisp belfry]

i notice most moths just go around EVERYWHERE while normal players just zoom and go where they only need to

[floral elm]

Oh XD

[desert sun]

im probably tripping idk

[pulsar iris]

I don’t even remember the first time I’ve opened sky i feel like I’ve been there forever

Like I woke up and sky was always there

[grim tundra]

@desert sun Basic stance has a certain look about it. This may or may not effect the run. Mostly, I think it's when a player is dark before you light them.

[solar relic]

that might be more of a control thing with newer players getting used to the joystick or something like that

[short owl]

Moths have a lot of new things to see too

[pulsar iris]

And the flying as well

[crisp belfry]

i like how everyone is just bald until u take out ur candle

[pulsar iris]

Took me 4 months to fly straight

[floral elm]

I did my first candle run the other day and I got distracted and ended up dragging some poor new new moth around and abandoning them in sanctuary islands

[pulsar iris]

😭😭😭

That’s were we go to a baby moths haha

[gentle sparrow]

[pulsar iris]

👀

[crisp belfry]

moth goes beep beep

[solar relic]

anyway i think we're getting a bit off-lore

[floral elm]

Yeah lmao

[crisp belfry]

haha yes

[gentle sparrow]

Well... i had no problem with the controls

ehehe lol

[desert sun]

~~born on rhythms ice rink i was built different ~~

anyway

[pulsar iris]

Hm

One thing weird

About sky

[proper mirage]

im late for saying this but
whenever we touch candles with people were opening our heart to them to shed light and learn more about them

[pulsar iris]

Do the clouds come from the treetops?

[floral elm]

Ooo hmmmm

Maybe the trees are just

Really really tall

Like so tall

[pulsar iris]

If that were the case

[proper mirage]

maybe the trees just
foggy

[short owl]

Maybe trees are normal sized and we are just really really tiny

[pulsar iris]

Does that mean forest is supplying the world with clouds

[crisp belfry]

sky is in the sky, right? so like everything is just rlly big islands i guess because clouds everywhere

[proper mirage]

the ocean in the sky

[floral elm]

Maybe be the clouds are leftover from the dead treeeee

[pulsar iris]

And so the wind just carries them around skyv

*?

Come to think of it

The trees in prarie also have cloud tops

[crisp belfry]

maybe the wind barriers exist to keep moffs from entering the forbidden ground of earth

[floral elm]

Oh really?

[pulsar iris]

Yea

In the 8 door area

Where the light boi is

You fly up it’s a tree

[proper mirage]

only PROS get to touch the ground

[crisp belfry]

did anyone notice that in the tree where the light boi is, theres FLOOR

[pulsar iris]

Yea???

That’s weird right???

[crisp belfry]

tree floor tree floor

[floral elm]

?

[pulsar iris]

Like intentionally chilled out

[crisp belfry]

maybe someone lives there

[proper mirage]

hol up
what if the light boy burned a hole in the tree

[pulsar iris]

*chisled out

[solar relic]

isle/gw + sanctuary seem to be the lowest points of sky since we have sea

[floral elm]

OH I was confused where you were talking about for a minute

[pulsar iris]

Maybe... but if that were the case why aren’t the locations burnt?

[floral elm]

Maybe 🤔

[proper mirage]

maybe the burnt part came off?

lol idk

[pulsar iris]

...maybe

Also the light bois

[floral elm]

MAYBE

maybe

[pulsar iris]

Are fallen stars, but did they exists before the collaspe

[floral elm]

The tree grew around the light bOi

[pulsar iris]

They are the purest forms of light we’ve seen

[crisp belfry]

idk anymore, sancturay is pretty low but not that low- if u compare sanctuary to valley mountains its weird, we should prolly be in space maybe. maybe the world of sky has a big atmosphere XD

[pulsar iris]

So did the lightbois come before or after the collaspe?

[floral elm]

I would think after

[proper mirage]

probs before

[pulsar iris]

Oh???

Why before and why after?

[floral elm]

I think the light bois are like fragments of light that kinda gathered together after the collapse somehow

[crisp belfry]

its strange- u take light bois to save light bois HAHAHA

a soul for a soul

[floral elm]

Yeah lmao

[proper mirage]

in the concept art a light kid would fall from the sky and turn into normal kid
and when we are reborn we fall from the sky as a light thing

then we are back to normal

[pulsar iris]

K so

Why we light kids

And they shiny bois

We sound cut from the same cloth

[floral elm]

OO

[pulsar iris]

What makes us us and them them?

[crisp belfry]

orbit sorta yeets ur skykid to home

[floral elm]

Maybe the light bois are the light from the fallen children statue things in eden

[proper mirage]

we are absorbing skids without proper bodies lol

[pulsar iris]

But shiny bois also come from orbit too right?

Also who are those kids??????

[crisp belfry]

maybe our wings were made to just store them rather than fly idk

[floral elm]

Our past lives??

[pulsar iris]

If you fresh mothy you still see all the light bois

[crisp belfry]

whos the shiny boi that we hug at the end tho? is it a random boi

[floral elm]

Since we seemed to have a new body every rebirth

[pulsar iris]

Light boy at the end is you separated from your flame I think

Like a match and a light

We the match

[proper mirage]

ah maybe

[pulsar iris]

They’re the light

[proper mirage]

takin yur soul back

[pulsar iris]

But that doesn’t explain the crusty kids in eden?

[floral elm]

OH the shiny boi might be like a light boi and the light bois in the realms might be from the kids who didn’t reunite with their shiny boi

[pulsar iris]

Frozen statues?

Did.....

[proper mirage]

the crusty kids are dead

[pulsar iris]

Did the elders send in a bunch of kids to try and stop the diamon???????

[solar relic]

o i have a long theory on all this

[floral elm]

@solar relic speak :0

[proper mirage]

lol probably

[fast jasper]

i believe there was a theory on the crusty kids being that they’re past generations of skids

[pulsar iris]

The elders were horrible lmaoo

[floral elm]

Yea that’s what i assumed when I played through it the first time

[solar relic]

i'll link my theory since i've posted it here before shdjd it's really too long for a single message

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

[sharp jetty]

As the previous selling was the torch from isle now it Will be posible we Will be able to buy that thing with butterflies from praire? :3

[floral elm]

Ooh but then how long have the sky kids been trying to beat eden?

How many generations

Of failure and death

[solar relic]

we don't know but it probably has been a long time

[proper mirage]

torch from the isle?

[crisp belfry]

its a cycle of d e a t h and its basically endless

[solar relic]

we have no information regarding any possible cosmetics sorry vankoen

[past mountain]

It is definitely a very very long time since the spirits fell, and they're probably going to continue for eternity

[solar relic]

in the meantime you can put it in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived or look out for official news for upcoming cosmetics

ah yes, rebirth. why do we get reborn over and over again? or is it all a game mechanic for replaying

[pulsar iris]

The mega bird rlly said “y’all got this” huh

Also why don’t we see her in orbit

[floral elm]

I have a theory about them rebirth thing kind of where basically some sky kids decide to try and leave the cycle but they get caught and memeroy wiped and that’s the character you play as when you first start playing

[pulsar iris]

Yikes

Who whiped our memories

[solar relic]

we do see megabird in orbit actually

[pulsar iris]

?? In the sky?

I wanna meet her

[short owl]

I can get behind evil megabird (Nicknamed Megan)

[pulsar iris]

Like actually her fly down on our path

[short owl]

OVERTHROW THE BIRD!

[pulsar iris]

Or maybe a goddess who didn’t know better

Like uhh

Huntokar from nightvale

[pulsar iris]

Y’all listened to nightvale right?

[solar relic]

for a more full view you can go near the rebirth gate, lie down and turn your camera angle up

[pulsar iris]

Ahh okay

So huntokar created the plane of existence for the ppl

Then something bad happens

In her heavy handed attempt to save them she dooms her ppl

So now she hides from her shame, knowing that if she was an uncaring god all would have been well

Mega bird might have done something similar

[floral elm]

sorry who’s mega bird?

[pulsar iris]

She fears that if she interferes with us anymore it might hurt us

She is our creator and the creator of sky

[floral elm]

Ohh ok

[pulsar iris]

Source of light

But yeah

I... I know ppl do bad but I don’t think anyone in the sky universe is bad without cause, or intentionally did harm to others

Like the sky king

Or even mega bird sending us to save the ancestors

[floral elm]

It was all corruption

[pulsar iris]

It sucks but she’s trying

[arctic void]

Um I have a question but it’s kind of off topic

[pulsar iris]

Hm?

[gentle sparrow]

@floral elm Have you read the moth doc? :P

[solar relic]

if it's a lore question do ask

[floral elm]

Oof not yet 😅

[gentle sparrow]

i mean the lore moff doc- hehe

welp

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
--Credits to Bricky--

[floral elm]

Okkk thx

[arctic void]

I know I’m probably very late, but I was wondering what everyone’s interpretations of the final prophecy carvings (or whatever they’re called) were. They seem to depict the prince/king, and I wanted to see your opinions on them.

[pastel brook]

it has been foretold that @arctic void will seek a deeper understanding... AND FAIL

[orchid crypt]

skybot's response being scarily on-topic there

[desert sun]

funny, i was just looking at the prophecy cave

[pulsar iris]

I think it was the prince as well, since he’s interacting with the elders

..... maybe this was how they chose the prince!????

If he could master the elements then it would be his right to rule the realms!

[desert sun]

goood idea

but wouldn't that imply that winged light is an imprint of the prince?

[solar relic]

from backreading discussion on the murals here, i was thinking the child of light (singular child of light, different from us skids - the one you see in the intro) was sent down to do the trials, harness the elements and have the wisdom (patience, resilience, balance, bravery) of a king

[gentle sparrow]

a very very good fanfic material indeed

[floral elm]

:0

[pulsar iris]

We did it again guys

We solved sky

[floral elm]

What did we solve this time lol i was afk

[desert sun]

ohhh that does make sense! so the trials mustve been for the prince, and the murals depict what the prince did to get into power

[gentle sparrow]

Yep

[floral elm]

OHH

[pulsar iris]

The trials basically where a way to prove who has the stuff to lead

Cause the light kid was the only one who seemed to pass

[desert sun]

and the spirits of each respective element mustve been past people who tried to do the trials???? maybe??? which is why we see people laying down in the murals

[pulsar iris]

Therefore the crown was his

[floral elm]

That makes sense 😮

[pulsar iris]

Maybe they failed

...or died

[floral elm]

Yay death

[desert sun]

explains why the child of light found their masks

[floral elm]

Why do skids wear masks anyway?

[pulsar iris]

I guess cause the ancestors did?

They had masks as well

[foggy belfry]

Dont mind me i had a lore discussion w a friend ingaMe okAy bye

[floral elm]

Anonymous

[pulsar iris]

But if that was the case

Why aren’t the statues full grown adults

Why send a bunch of kids to plead with the king

[foggy belfry]

Why not 😳

[floral elm]

Hmmmmm

[solar relic]

take advantage of children's innocence and naivety

[floral elm]

Yeah kids want to do stuff why not send them to die

[pulsar iris]

🤦🏾‍♀️

[desert sun]

and better yet, why did all of them have winged light? whenever we get a winged light we are told to "return" it to the statues

[rose gorge]

because children are the future of this economy

[pulsar iris]

The more we talk to More I hate the elders lmao

[desert sun]

skybot always used to day "dont trust what the elders say"

[floral elm]

:0

[gentle sparrow]

don't you remember what the skybot said?
Do not trust what the elders say

Lol

[floral elm]

[solar relic]

skybot's messages aren't lore related actually

[gentle sparrow]

yea but

[rose gorge]

thats what they want you to think

[floral elm]

[gentle sparrow]

some of them are preeetty interesting actually

[desert sun]

can we try to get one right now? prophecy

[twin canopy]

Wait so the elders were the first skykids? ._.

[pulsar iris]

How do I get skybot to say stuff

[gentle sparrow]

juuust have a look at

prophecy

[pastel brook]

I have long been waiting for this day....

[gentle sparrow]

prophet

[pastel brook]

The prophet is in

[desert sun]

NICE

[solar relic]

skids cannot grow up to be elders

[pulsar iris]

!!!

[foggy belfry]

I AM

[floral elm]

HMM

[desert sun]

skykids elders and spirits are different "races"

[twin canopy]

But they said earlier that elders were the first skykids or did I misread

[gentle sparrow]

How do I get skybot to say stuff
@pulsar iris there are some trigger words

[floral elm]

SKYBOT

[lethal stump]

elders and skykids are different species, according to the canon doc

have you read the canon doc, @twin canopy ?

[floral elm]

Yea the skykids are smol

[solar relic]

(don't spam the channel with attempts to rouse the bot tho)

[twin canopy]

Not really..

[floral elm]

They’re like faries I want to hug them

[short owl]

You know... It may not have been the elders at fault

[lethal stump]

read the pins, it’ll help you understand things @twin canopy

[desert sun]

which part

[floral elm]

@short owl expand on this

[tight sinew]

Anyone wanna know a silly theory?

[floral elm]

OO sure

[tight sinew]

What is echolocation?
Now, if it's what I think of, then bats use echolocation
...
And in a way skykids also do
So skykids are cousins of bats

Mystery solved

[short owl]

They had their society and trusted those above them. They may have worked hard to help their people and trusted Megabird when it came to the large scale impact of their actions

[floral elm]

OH CUZ THEY HONK LOL

[twin canopy]

By echolocation, you mean the deep honk?

[tight sinew]

The honk when you can see people that you lit around you

[gentle sparrow]

We find our way by h o n k i n g 😳

[twin canopy]

Ooh yeeaah

[tight sinew]

Or other people who deep honk

[floral elm]

Honkkk

[twin canopy]

hjönk

[tight sinew]

Alright bye guys have a great day good luck with everything I won't stay cause I know nothing about lore 'UwU

[floral elm]

[short owl]

Aww we losing a lore moff?

[floral elm]

NooOooo

[twin canopy]

I hope I’m not sounding lazy, but I’ve read about 3/4 of the pins but I haven’t found anything about the prince and king, who are they exactly

[short owl]

Cookies come back! Most of what we say is nonsense anyway! D:

[fast jasper]

[tight sinew]

Oop
Then I'm gonna lurk

[floral elm]

They’re like

Peeps who did stuff

[tight sinew]

Even so I've learnt from a friend that gw was actually a forest who got burnt?

Is it true?

[floral elm]

That’s one of my theories

[short owl]

We don't know but several people like the theory

[floral elm]

That it got drained of light and light creatures and then burned/cut down and the mantas turned. Into krill

[cyan dune]

How come no one mentions a headcanon or sumthin’ that Megan’s the one singing the songs while you’re heading to and leaving Orbit to be reborn?

[tight sinew]

I
I don't know any of the stories from the pins and I'm lazy to read so I'll be confused with everything ;-;

[floral elm]

Oooo

I didn’t read any of the pins until a few seconds ago don’t worry lol

[twin canopy]

Same kinda, I still haven’t finished reading

[floral elm]

Now I want to do eden and restart so I can look at all the cutscenes agian lol

[tight sinew]

Could you mind explain your theories to a moth in lore?

[floral elm]

Yeeeeee

I too am a moth in the lore

But I am

A lore moth

[short owl]

Moth, bad news

The opening cutscene can't be replayed in game

[floral elm]

NooOOOOO

[short owl]

We all rely on youtube for that

[floral elm]

I’ll find it on YouTube then dads

Sad XDDD

[tight sinew]

The one with wake up child bring our lost stars home?

[short owl]

Everything else can be done no problem though

[floral elm]

Yeeee

[short owl]

(Spirit replays are new)

[tight sinew]

Oop
I know nothing about that one cutscene...-

[orchid crypt]

putting a request into #wishlist-and-ideas-archived to be able to watch the opening cutscene again is also an idea, i'd really want to rewatch it with my own sky kid

[floral elm]

Yas

[tight sinew]

Maybe for some it would be annoying cause they would have to skip everything

[short owl]

I'm sure it's coming at some point. They gave us spirits and have other priorities

[floral elm]

Here’s a queesoon

Question lol

[orchid crypt]

i'd like it as an option more than anything, being able to view the spirit cutscenes again was cool, but i was hoping we'd have it as a toggle where we can either choose to watch them or get the shortened wave version -- but anyway, back to lore

[floral elm]

Where do the skykids come from?

[short owl]

Ah. Were not here last night I see.

[floral elm]

No I just got here a few hours ago

[short owl]

I... May have had a crisis about Skykids last night

We have no clue

[tight sinew]

Time to lurk

[floral elm]

Tell :0

What happened

[short owl]

We are a complete mystery. Are we natural? Why do we beep? What are we even made of?!

[rose gorge]

yes

[desert sun]

i just now rewatched the intro cutscene, so im possibly thinking that skykids were just kinda there??? and they got indued with winged light after the crisis in eden

[short owl]

We have NO CONFIRMED ANSWERS

[desert sun]

I HAVE NO CLUE

[floral elm]

I was thinking were made of light and don’t have a like a completely solid body or at least not a lot of body mass

Maybe we’re just advanced creatures of light

[desert sun]

well we have the ability to lose our light, and we still have a physical form

[floral elm]

Mantas on steroids in the shape of kids

[desert sun]

however, once we lose out light we lose our cosmetics. so our cosmetics are probably made up of just light

[floral elm]

Oh yeah

[rose gorge]

i thought we were just made of rock

[floral elm]

Melted rock?? And then we harden at the end of eden????

[arctic void]

I saw theories that we’re made of stone or wax

[floral elm]

OO

I like the wax idea

[desert sun]

oh my. im gonna pull a null here and have a crisis on skykid origin

[rose gorge]

like we have a physical body that the light is inhabiting or smthn

[tight sinew]

I think we're made of stars
Literally
A little part of a star and also fire and some kind of magical thingy-

[floral elm]

A body made of wax inhabited by light

I mean we can pull an entire candle out of nowhere

[desert sun]

i mean

it would explain why rain hurts us?

no, nevermind, i remembered we can stand in water

[tight sinew]

Rain probably just comes from wasteland water

[rose gorge]

acid rain

[floral elm]

OO THAT MAKES SENSE

[desert sun]

i used to say "vault is the most confusing part of sky" but its being heavily challenged by the existence of skykids

[floral elm]

Bc other water doesn’t have too much of an effect

But the wasteland water is picky

[tight sinew]

I think that first

We have to go BEFORE even the skykid (the character we play as ourselves existed)

So so so much before

[desert sun]

the thing is, isnt the forest rain creating the water in forest? like the puddles? if so, why doesnt that hurt us

[rose gorge]

i wonder what the ancestors and elders are made of

[floral elm]

Yess I have a theory on that

Our skykids existing before we started playing as them

[desert sun]

that would explain a lot, not gonna lie

[tight sinew]

Actually
Skykids are probably very light, did you thought about this?
Such a thin material, magic or not couldn't carry us so easily

[floral elm]

My theory is when someone starts playing sky their skykid is has actually been doing the eden dying rebirth and just had their memories wiped for trying to escape the system

And yeee skykids are super light 🤔🤔

[tight sinew]

We do spawn in home tho

[broken basin]

That's why ww float on water

But not in valley lakw

[viscid coyote]

the thing is, isnt the forest rain creating the water in forest? like the puddles? if so, why doesnt that hurt us
@desert sun it’s just the humidity I bealive

[desert sun]

ehyd i never think of that

[viscid coyote]

Oh, cool

[floral elm]

I like the wasteland rain idea but hmm

[broken basin]

See, our light depletes from the rain, so it must be darkness that is taking it away, but how.

[tight sinew]

Or maybe cause the rain covers all our body
But shouldn't the cape protect us?
The cape seems to be a part of us if it doesn't protect-
Or idk

[viscid coyote]

My theory is when someone starts playing sky their skykid is has actually been doing the eden dying rebirth and just had their memories wiped for trying to escape the system
@floral elm scape the system?

Maybe because more than ice cold, it’s gloomy cold

[floral elm]

The skykids are stuck in an endless cycle of death so maybe our skykids tried to escape the cycle and didn’t want to die anymore but got their memories wiped and started back at the isle

Not sure who wiped the memories 🤔

[rose gorge]

thats what i was about to ask lol

elders?

[floral elm]

Probably

[viscid coyote]

The skykids are stuck in an endless cycle of death so maybe our skykids tried to escape the cycle and didn’t want to die anymore but got their memories wiped and started back at the isle
@floral elm nah, we can play the game whitout going to eden for a long time, it’s also part of the system

[tight sinew]

We can even never go to Eden if we want, in a way we're forced to cause items but if you want to stay default outfit you can do that

[viscid coyote]

I prefer to bealive that sky kids are created by demand. A light/soul arrives as us, and a sky kid is born for us to use

[floral elm]

Oh trueee

[viscid coyote]

Thanks

[rose gorge]

ooh i like that one isa

[floral elm]

Null mentioned earlier their theory where like you go to eden and save that generation of skykids and then die and become a statue yourself, and then the generation you just saved comes to eden to save you, and then thet die so you go to save them, and ect

So that’s an ibterinteresting idea

[broken basin]

But after we take birth again, we still have the same Cosmetics which we shouldn't have had if the skykid got replaced the and previous one became a statue

[floral elm]

Well no bc you would just be frozen and then saved and your cosmetics are frozen and saved with you

[broken basin]

And neither do we see ourselves turning into a statue, our clay body just shatters and only our soul remains.

[floral elm]

Hmmm truee

[arctic void]

I feel like maybe they were a past generation that can’t be reborn, and they got frozen there and when we save them we are setting their souls free to return to the light

[broken basin]

Yeah it's more like a time loop

[viscid coyote]

Thanks you> ooh i like that one isa
@rose gorge

[broken basin]

Even though you saved the same people last week, you'll have to save then again since the time in eden keeps looping back
(Bricky's theory iirc)

[viscid coyote]

Well no bc you would just be frozen and then saved and your cosmetics are frozen and saved with you
@floral elm most probably because it’s our essence

[floral elm]

Yee

[viscid coyote]

If you don’t use a resize potion ever, your height changes after being reborn

So

It’s not the same body

[rose gorge]

essence of my existence: tabel

[broken basin]

It doesn't