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#lore-discussion-spoilers
rapid juniper
queen locust
elders are boomers-
rapid juniper
livid valley
imagine if
krill plush
that has the krill canon thoery in it poggers
queen locust
What's the krill cannon theory? Might have missed it
rapid juniper
Krill canon thoery 
livid valley
just waiting for the day that krill canon theory might come
rapid juniper
Well
edgy sequoia
I wanna bring up a dead theory of mine
queen locust
go right ahead we're kinda dead akjakja
rapid juniper
Sure
queen jungle
Aight so... those things in the dark in Fire Trial...
Could it be that those also destroyed the kingdom?
edgy sequoia
sanctuary rock is the p--oop
queen locust
We've no idea if those things can exist outside of the Trial
icy spruce
insert shrug emote
queen locust
Plus they seem like indifferent creatures, unlike the krill
queen jungle
They thrive in total darkness, and Sky had gone dark once.
queen locust
Yes, but they don't seem like the type to go out of their way to destroy much
queen jungle
I mean, they destroy by simply passing by.
rapid juniper
Maybe thay are blind
edgy sequoia
they've been there for too long
rapid juniper
Maybe they weree corrupted
queen locust
I kinda have to disagree- those Trials are a test of strength, so I don't think they were corrupted so much as it is simply in their nature
They were made specifically for the Trials- at least that's what I believe
rapid juniper
Hm
queen jungle
But then what of the Prophecy? I really don't think they were there just to challenge us.
icy spruce
It looks like fire can create clouds
queen locust
Maybe not to challenge US, specifically
icy spruce
And you know
rapid juniper
Im confused tho why did the elders gave the elements to the prophets
pastel brookBOT
The prophets have spoken and they said @rapid juniper would come and save us all 
rapid juniper
Oooooooooo
queen jungle
I mean, fire creates smoke irl so...
icy spruce
ye
queen locust
smoky dust bunny monsters-
icy spruce
yes
vestal swift
Worm off the string but smoke
queen jungle
tbh, they remind me of Queen Vanessa too. Lemme grab a pic.
rapid juniper
Interestin
steady pollen
i have a photo of
one of the unshaded vanessa models
livid valley
scary but would not likekly to cause such extreme damage to the kingdom
queen locust
What's a Vanessa- I keep thinking about the one from Phineas and Ferb-
rapid juniper
icy spruce
And the fact that in earth trial, you can see your shadow but not the rocks add up that maybe everything we see in the trials are just...made up I guess-
livid valley
indeed
steady pollen
Queen Vanessa from A Hat in Time
queen locust
OH- that one
steady pollen
but then the prophets wouldn’t be there
rapid juniper
Maybe lands are also dead
vestal swift
I think that the prophecy cave itself is real, but all the trials and events are in a seperate dimension
pastel brookBOT
beware the ||mods||
icy spruce
O-
queen locust
I seriously doubt that the cave was actually housing a gigantic void ball so-
rapid juniper
Hm i have a thoery
steady pollen
waiting on ray’s photo but heres an image of vanessa from the hatintime wiki
languid prism
umm guys was the skid in the last mural literally enlarge to become king or just a metaphor? I just realized that the skid( or prince) mention in all of the murals was suddenly big in the last.
steady pollen
its like the shadow thingawongies just kinda
look like her like ray said with the eyes and void body
rapid juniper
Thats the karen pyre is taliking about
steady pollen
the whyw
rapid juniper
Yesterday
steady pollen
also the glowing guy in the last mural is either prince or king
rapid juniper
Hm
queen locust
Maybe the Prince becoming the King? He became extra glowy in that last one
steady pollen
blind the prophets
rapid juniper
Maybe he was corrupting everything but the color is just yellow
teal orbit
👀
rapid juniper
Wait no thats deep
teal orbit
dark worms lol
queen locust
Oh morning Pyre
rapid juniper
Lamo
teal orbit
hiya
vestal swift
Hello
queen jungle
Yeah that's her, but here's a picture that better displays what she is in game. A smoky figure.
Freezes everyone she touches.
steady pollen
haha piano go brrr
teal orbit
oooooooooooooh we doing karen rn???
rapid juniper
Yes its the karen
queen locust
When you say freezes everything she touches I literally just think of the Groke from Moominvalley-
steady pollen
she looks so fluffy with that drawing but one of her in-game models are this thing lmao
rapid juniper
Kraken i maen
rapid juniper
Lmao t pose
livid valley
what is this.
steady pollen
i mean
shes over 500 years old in the story
icy spruce
Oh ya
steady pollen
but yeah vanessa and the dust bunnies look pretty similar like ray said
teal orbit
karen`s venessa now?
rapid juniper
Whos dus bunny
livid valley
so many names for the weird thing in trial is confusing me
teal orbit
dark worms
grim tundra
Intro murals:
Water ->
Earth -> (isles?)
Air -> Prairie (floating land)
Fire -> Forest burning
End Cave mural:
Water crystal-> from forest spirit
Earth crystal-> from prairie
Air crystal->from Valley
Fire crystal-> from GW
queen jungle
I was nearly spoiled for the Fire Trial, but I recall there being a name for it.
rapid juniper
Hey giys 1th wings are here
queen locust
Wait what- names for what exactly-
steady pollen
the fluffy thingacongalongas in fire trial
teal orbit
if this is it, lets vote...
queen locust
can I please just call them deadly furry beasts
sick path
Fire trial....therefore should their name include “Smoke”??
grim tundra
@teal orbit Shworms
teal orbit
lets not joke around rn....
rapid juniper
I call them smoke floating worms
grim tundra
Shadow / shroud Worms
teal orbit
dont tell me names u just thought up
steady pollen
ok wait the smoke thingies kinda look like weird worms on a string with eyes
@steady pollen quoting this from a beta channel
livid valley
isnt dark worms thought up tho
queen locust
Yeah I thought we were okay with dark worms-
steady pollen
dang its been a month since fire trial was in beta??
rapid juniper
Dark worms
teal orbit
but so many names...
grim tundra
S h w o r m s
teal orbit
dark worms then?
queen locust
I'm indifferent either way but I'll stick with dark worms
teal orbit
ok then
languid prism
Light Eater?
teal orbit
the more names there r the more confusing it is...
livid valley
Smoke worms
rapid juniper
They remove light instead of eating it
teal orbit
ok lets vote...
languid prism
ah yeah makes point
rapid juniper
I didnt know there is votes on this channel
steady pollen
fanmade votes in one message yeah
cold steppe
oh worms on a string
rapid juniper
I dont have letter emojis
cold steppe
these things, if anyone is curious
icy spruce
Yes
rapid juniper
Lmao
icy spruce
I used to have 2 of those
rapid juniper
I have one of that
steady pollen
i habe the purple, orange, green, and yellow ones but i lost them
icy spruce
Sad
queen jungle
Also, the previous trial was balance. How does it correlate with Undertale souls?
Cuz this one is Courage/Orange Soul Bravery.
cold steppe
I personally like dust floofs
rapid juniper
Me to
rapid juniper
Oh oki
livid valley
these things, if anyone is curious
@cold steppe imagine this in trials but so dark you cant see it
cold steppe
what's the vote for? a standardized name for the creatures in the trial?
edgy sequoia
string worms
rapid juniper
Dark worms won tho XD
teal orbit
smoke worms caught up
livid valley
what's the vote for? a standardized name for the creatures in the trial?
to lower confusing times i guess?
cold steppe
I'll be surprised if it catches on outside the channel though as I've seen so many names for it
icy spruce
ook
livid valley
it might get out tho
queen jungle
Every creature so far has had Dark as a prefix.
livid valley
cant control the people
icy spruce
ye
livid valley
its their own wish uwu
teal orbit
yes ray
rapid juniper
Its a tie
queen jungle
Dark Crab, Dark Dragon
cold steppe
it's tied again lol
rapid juniper
L,al
teal orbit
no i think dark won...
rapid juniper
Sad
icy spruce
Now its tie
teal orbit
man...
icy spruce
Now 4/5
cold steppe
5/5 now
livid valley
oh damn
icy spruce
now tie
teal orbit
5/5
queen jungle
omg
livid valley
this is getting intense
teal orbit
queen locust
Let's try not to flood the chat with the updates on the poll too much guys
teal orbit
okie
icy spruce
mkay
rapid juniper
Ok its a tie
teal orbit
ok who does reddit
cold steppe
tbh, probably about now
icy spruce
REDDIT USERS
teal orbit
we could take the poll there
rapid juniper
Who will anonunce the names fir the creatures in fire trial
grim tundra
Nope. This thread is for lore.
Dark Worms.
Or S H W O R M S for the faithful.
teal orbit
shworms lost in a land slide
cold steppe
to be honest, I don't think it's right to try to force names into lore as the devs have stated that they want things to be open to interpretation
rapid juniper
Well
livid valley
indeed
cold steppe
if someone wants to call it something else, let them
grim tundra
shworms lost in a land slide
@teal orbit
I actually found a Shworm today. It was cute and fuzzy.
queen jungle
We aren't really forcing, it's just to have common ground.
livid valley
guess i have to try and remember which name is which
cold steppe
we can't even decide between dark or smoke worm
icy spruce
oh hey, 6/5
teal orbit
yay~~~
queen jungle
Dark Worms it is.
teal orbit
yes
lethal stump
i will forever call them dark owls 
livid valley
owls :0
queen locust
dark hoots-
teal orbit
bri--
languid prism
hoot
cold steppe
why owls?
queen jungle
Even the wikia calls them furry worms- xD
rapid juniper
Owls
queen locust
Big ol' eyes
lethal stump
it’s a beta thing
teal orbit
now look wut u`ve done bricky
cold steppe
wiki technically isn't canon
sand knoll
Smoke worm sound floofy
livid valley
:0
queen jungle
Ah righ.
teal orbit
aight
lethal stump
one of the artists in beta drew them as big floofy owls and it caught on
cold steppe
in this channel, maybe
icy spruce
Huh
cold steppe
TGC has not announced an official name
teal orbit
yes only in lore chat
lethal stump
i wouldnt go around calling it official
livid valley
indeed is not offical
teal orbit
now... the fun begins...
icy spruce
ye
teal orbit
SCIENTIFIC NAMING TIME~~~
livid valley
lmao-
grim tundra
PIPE CLEANERS
cold steppe
call it what you like 
sand knoll
PIPE CLEANERS
edgy sequoia
LMAO
silver sequoia
That is fantastic
cold steppe
the fandom calls dark dragons krill, and new players moths
livid valley
everyone suddenly agrees on pipe cleaners
cold steppe
I vote for pipe cleaners
queen locust
pIPE CLEANERS
sand knoll
Dark moth.....
teal orbit
ok then one more vote
grim tundra
We got too many dirty pipes around Sky.
Get to work, fuzzy friends
rapid juniper
They are pipe cleaners
cold steppe
let's not spam the chat with votes though
silver sequoia
Is it lore law? Calling them pipe cleaners
teal orbit
a. dark worms
b. pipe cleaners
queen jungle
a
teal orbit
a
cold steppe
everyone can have their own name for it
lethal stump
let’s just call it what we please, we don’t need a vote
lethal stump
i thinj it’d be pretty easy to tell what people are talking about
teal orbit
scientific name folks
cold steppe
it's the lore channel, which means that everyone's opinion is valid
grim tundra
scientific name folks
@teal orbit
Pipicus Giganticus
teal orbit
i thinj it’d be pretty easy to tell what people are talking about
@lethal stump yeah... we had a whole confusing thing a few mins ago... thats why this started....
cold steppe
people can just clarify as needed
no need to standardize the name if there is no official name
rapid juniper
O
cold steppe
you can probably stick suggestions in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived though if you want
livid valley
ill just call them "that weird thing in fire trial which kills you"
silver sequoia
I call them ashworms
queen jungle
Ooo ashworms-
sand knoll
"Floofy fireball thingy"
cold steppe
I am living for the creativity
teal orbit
nonono the scientific names r just for fun
sand knoll
Ooohhh ashworms
lethal stump
new quest: face the dark owl 
teal orbit
no one rlly uses them
icy spruce
oh no
teal orbit
rapid juniper
teal orbit
currently we have these
icy spruce
not the ash cloud
cold steppe
the death floof
silver sequoia
I'm now imagining a daily titled "Face the pipe cleaner"
I'm losing my mind
teal orbit
no..... like yes
icy spruce
ash floof
teal orbit
but we r making a binomilal name for fun...
cold steppe
if so, are we going to form a phylogenetic tree with the floofs coming off a branch with the krill?
sand knoll
Oh but how's analyzing the mural going?
queen locust
SO MY FRIEND SENT ME THIS AND SUDDENLY I SEE WHY YOU GUYS CALLED THEM WORMS-
icy spruce
OH GOSH
queen locust
THIS IS A TAPEWORM HEAD BTW
queen jungle
OH
queen locust
BECAUSE I ASSUMED THAT'S WHY YOU CALLED THEM WORMS
icy spruce
FOR CRAB SAKE, AAAAA
livid valley
oh
livid valley
they do look like the stuff in trial
cold steppe
Brassolis, as in the butterfly genus?
teal orbit
yes
cold steppe
out of curiosity, why?
grim tundra
Oh but how's analyzing the mural going?
Very badly.
So far we have...uh...
Pipe Cleaners
queen jungle
xD
teal orbit
ok can someone give me an adjective to describe the dark worm...
teal orbit
english adjectives
cold steppe
destructive
queen locust
terrifying if that pic my friend sent me was anything to go by
grim tundra
And a discrepancy and/or new twist in that the intro murals differ from the end mural in their relationship to the colored crystals and their supposed realms.
teal orbit
destructive, fluffy wut else we got
queen locust
Gordon's pic's got nothing on that
icy spruce
Hey, wanna see a photo of a silk worm
icy spruce
blind (probably)
cold steppe
it's destructively fluffy
ashen bloom
y’all what’s going on
queen locust
Arguments on what to name those things from the fire trial mostly
silver sequoia
I'm in a voice call with my friends in another server and they're concerned on why I'm laughing about pipe cleaners
rapid juniper
y’all what’s going on
@ashen bloom well
cold steppe
formal scientific discussions, that's what
ashen bloom
fire smokey eyes
queen locust
I wouldn't call much about this formal but alright-
ashen bloom
FIRE SMOKEY EYES
icy spruce
ominouse
cold steppe
scientists have named creatures after sonic the hedgehog
grim tundra
Pipicus Giganticus are formally blind, but have excellent sense of heat and sound.
cold steppe
this is formal scientific discussion
icy spruce
Is that how you spell, I have no idea (ominouse)
ashen bloom
And Star Wars
pastel brookBOT
What do you all want now 
rapid juniper
Lmao
livid valley
oh no
queen locust
well crap nevermind then akasjaj
cold steppe
skybot what is the official name for the dust floofs
median stone
If you see that worm clearly, the eyes is trying to hypnotise you if only they were not harmful...
icy spruce
nice
lethal stump
their eyes seem to get wider the closer they get to us
ashen bloom
F I R E S M O K E Y E Y E S
pastel brookBOT
don’t worry citizens, your hero is here
median stone
cold steppe
thank you, skybot. very helpful
icy spruce
Sparkly (ending of fire trial)
ashen bloom
@lethal stump I think that’s called perspective
icy spruce
Sparkle sparkle
lethal stump
maybe their eyes expand and contract like ours to take in more light
queen locust
When you describe it like that it sounds like they're cats with dilating pupils closing in on prey
icy spruce
I-
queen locust
lore
rapid juniper
Idk
cold steppe
what does caecus mean?
ashen bloom
FIRE SMOKEY EYES
icy spruce
crinitus?
median stone
Ouh my god pyre you should get your scientists title here
teal orbit
a.caecus b.crinitus c.horrificus d.perniciosius
cold steppe
pyre, what do they mean though
teal orbit
no i ran these thru the google latin translator
livid valley
its just normal words in latin
median stone
He's talking science language
rapid juniper
Uh i just saw my profile
icy spruce
ok
median stone
C guys
grim tundra
Pipicus Giganticus' "eyes" are actually sonic reciprocators that can both emit and receive vibration...like liquid ears.
They are known to blow the light right out of little children...
median stone
C!!
ashen bloom
f I r e s m o k e y e y e s
cold steppe
I like both the Latin and the English meanings for C
queen locust
Horrificus sounds too on the nose I think-
icy spruce
ye
rapid juniper
What is happening with the lore chat
ashen bloom
we’re naming
icy spruce
It's becoming a naming poll thing
ashen bloom
They feel like smoke fire krills
icy spruce
FOR SCIENCE
cold steppe
@ashen bloom Fire smoky eyes: fumea taedis lumina flammis
ashen bloom
Frills
rapid juniper
Oh ok
icy spruce
i-
livid valley
the grass even has better names than us
rapid juniper
Well
ashen bloom
grass is smart tho ngl
livid valley
lol
icy spruce
ikr
hushed steeple
What are sky kids made of?
ashen bloom
light?
rapid juniper
Ash
grim tundra
Well
@rapid juniper
We are sooooo sorry.....
livid valley
clay
cold steppe
what about Horrificus nubes
frightening cloud
rapid juniper
Yeah i remember someone saying we are made of ash
grim tundra
Potash Precipitation
livid valley
there must be a outer layer which protects the stuff
ashen bloom
gunpowder?
cold steppe
there's a bunch of theories about what skykids are made of
hushed steeple
are our capes made of light?
rapid juniper
Yeah i just saw the ash thiery
livid valley
yes
ashen bloom
probably
hushed steeple
since they don't have shadows
cold steppe
possibly
ashen bloom
Ya
livid valley
the capes literally only appear when u get a winged light
cold steppe
technically they don't have shadows because they didn't render properly but lorewise we don't know the reason
ashen bloom
shhhh
livid valley
shhhhh
hushed steeple
yeah that makes sense
median stone
Why do I suddenly thinking about dark squid in the void of sea?
teal orbit
Brassolis crinitus it is
rapid juniper
Im confused we always talk about the same thoery
cold steppe
why butterfly though
grim tundra
Sentient Cumulous Potassium Oxide
teal orbit
cuz its a caterpillar thingie
livid valley
:0
ashen bloom
More like a slug
icy spruce
what
teal orbit
looks do dame
cold steppe
it's blind caterpillar then
ashen bloom
But it has eyes
teal orbit
like the simmilarities r eerie
median stone
Then it popped out to dark dragon?
teal orbit
no
queen locust
I wouldn't go as far as calling them sapient-
ashen bloom
The fire smoke slug krill
cold steppe
ah fluffy caterpillar
ashen bloom
but they do some avoidy things sometimes that makes it seem like they can see
teal orbit
sounds so innocent
cold steppe
seems a little too close to irl though
icy spruce
lmao
teal orbit
yes
livid valley
yes
icy spruce
ah, what an innocent name. It must be really cu- dies
livid valley
mhm
ashen bloom
Would it be considered a dragon tho
cold steppe
depends
icy spruce
median stone
Baby krill is not crab first name?
icy spruce
what
rapid juniper
I thiught of that when i first got there
queen locust
Unlikely? Krill and crab are different things-
ashen bloom
Ya
rapid juniper
Yeah
median stone
I don't know where do I heard of that before
ashen bloom
What if it’s somewhat similar to a jellyfish bc it doesn’t seem like it has a brain
Or any other organs...
Like a jellyfish
queen locust
Possibly literally the first theory that came up when those murals first dropped- crabs are krill but I don't remember who brought that one up
icy spruce
yay
queen locust
or how the trial fit into that-
cold steppe
oh that's a change from Enchantment where they thought crabs were corrupted mantas
ashen bloom
in the latest mural it shows a krill being peaceful
haughty talon
Crabs are krills without wing lights?
ashen bloom
but crabs are so tiny
teal orbit
crabs arent krill for sure
icy spruce
Cause, light uhh dominated Sky's world and darkness is weak
teal orbit
most certainly
ashen bloom
And we already have “good” crabs
haughty talon
More wing light they consume...
queen locust
krill do not have winged lights to begin with-
teal orbit
no like....
ashen bloom
Ya they just head butted
cold steppe
are we sure it's a peaceful krill and not just one like the ark krill that minds its own business?
ashen bloom
*headbutt
ashen bloom
What if arc krill doesn’t see us
haughty talon
May be they destroy light not consume.. More they destroy they move from krills to those dark smog creatures in fire trial
ashen bloom
They don’t destroy it either tho
rapid juniper
Arc krill is far from us
ashen bloom
(Krill)
cold steppe
Ark krill is really hard to aggravate compared to the others
teal orbit
reika said the real identity of the crab is hidden in it`s walking cycle so its not a krill cuz it doesnt walk
icy spruce
Well, light was dominated in Sky world and darkness was really weak during those times. So I don't think a krill would want to attack a light creature when it's probably even more powerful than a krill.
queen locust
I don't think the darkness was weak so much as it was just docile
teal orbit
karen is lurking in the shadows in the fire trial cutscene...
ashen bloom
Yes but we can stop them via the power of clapping
icy spruce
Well, before the explosion
median stone
Hidden identity in walking style?
teal orbit
yes
teal orbit
no
icy spruce
don't think so
fast jasper
i mean krebs do walk sorta like ants
queen locust
Maybe they were literally just floating around unprovoked but it's a stretch to call them good things
ashen bloom
or darkness corruption ness or smthn ¯_(ツ)_/¯
teal orbit
krill have always been bad
median stone
Seems like spider
teal orbit
cuz KAREN
[chorus sings]
ashen bloom
how do we know tho
median stone
But aqua thingiz
cold steppe
if you consider old concept art, yeah, but I don't think we technically have any confirmation (or denial) of that, tbh
median stone
Omg Karen.....
queen locust
freaking Karen
rapid juniper
Karen
median stone
Current....
queen locust
aight enough about Karen where were we
teal orbit
imma krill karen in skymemes
icy spruce
yes
cold steppe
I think the last train of thought was "were krill always bad"
ashen bloom
but what if they weren’t
cold steppe
also you have to define bad
median stone
Nope but yes
ashen bloom
like aggro
queen locust
Yeah you have to establish that first-
queen locust
Is bad basically being able to attack
ashen bloom
Ya XD
cold steppe
maybe a better term would be "were krill always predators"
queen locust
Because what if it was in self-defense?
cold steppe
or "aggressive"
ashen bloom
Or were we always their prey
queen locust
Because things like Whurtles and Whales were hunted down
median stone
If its true that called as 'self defense'.....
queen locust
Alright maybe not self-defense- survival instinct
median stone
Yueehhhh
queen locust
That's assuming if they're organic which I kind of doubt
I wouldn't call something that acts on survival instinct bad- per say
unique flax
Krill to me, resemble the dementors of the Sky world
queen locust
Merely because those things don't have any concept of morality
median stone
Poor krill wanna eat some light
ashen bloom
they get hangry
queen locust
hongreh
icy spruce
hangry
unique flax
Honkgreh
icy spruce
Hungry and angry
rapid juniper
Btw is the person going to eden back yet
icy spruce
Hangry
median stone
Hangry
ashen bloom
So assuming that then when everyone died no one fed them XD
clear vector
So what does the finished mural mean?
median stone
Ehh yeah?
rapid juniper
To bring us information about eden
ashen bloom
there used to be less death there
unique flax
Dun dun DUNNN
queen locust
There was nothing to feed on where they are- assuming they even NEED to feed
median stone
The history of Prince referred to Butter doc
ashen bloom
What if the krill were used as search lights
unique flax
By who?
unique flax
Ooo
queen locust
So they're like scouts?
median stone
Hmmm lights are precious
median stone
Ma Preciousss
icy spruce
I-
unique flax
That only leads me to think how scary the masters of the krill are
ashen bloom
So that would be why they don’t eat ur light they just headbutt
median stone
No one instruct them to collect it?
hollow lotus
Brassolis crinitus
@teal orbit why must yall name the deathy thing
clear vector
The lantern has a krill spotlight mode btw
clear vector
If that means anything
icy spruce
✨ because we can ✨
queen locust
Maybe that was a last directive of theirs that someone forgot to turn off-
ashen bloom
Like flashlight mode?
hollow lotus
DHJKFHSKJ
queen locust
Or they reached the point where they are above directives
ashen bloom
so krill might not even be organic
icy spruce
It means fluffy worm, lol
clear vector
If you use flashlight mode while in open wing mode it acts like a krill spotlight
unique flax
It doesnt look organic that's for sure
clear vector
Diff light sizes and stuff
teal orbit
@teal orbit why must yall name the deathy thing
@hollow lotus the common name was to avoid confusion.... a lot
and the scientific name waas for fun
krill r organic
unique flax
Dark organic
teal orbit
most certainly
unique flax
median stone
Someone forget to turn off their mind control thingies and put it in Eden diamond-
teal orbit
yes jelly
ashen bloom
they seem infected
hollow lotus
pipecleaners-
unique flax
Ye
ashen bloom
or weapons
queen locust
expired mentor is my new favorite phrase
clear vector
Experiment**
icy spruce
confusion
ashen bloom
XD
median stone
Expired mentors
unique flax
So, we have Krebs. Then dark floofy worms, that grow into krill
clear vector
All of wasteland makes it seem like krill are a result of pollution
queen locust
Hold on- why do you think they grow into krill Jelly?
clear vector
Wasteland isn't exactly subtle about the pollution message
icy spruce
But krills exists
ashen bloom
we don’t know if dark floof worms have any connection to krills
icy spruce
before the GW becomes GW
unique flax
They are both creatures of darkness
icy spruce
And i dont think dark floof has a connection with krills
median stone
Maybe that was Krill Ancestors
ashen bloom
But so is a crab
hollow lotus
d,,,dark floof-
clear vector
The floor worms aren't proven to be real, the trials are trials of the mind
hollow lotus
i love yall
queen locust
And so are Butterflies and Mantas being both light creatures but you don't see butterflies becoming mantas
clear vector
Floof*
icy spruce
- All of the trials are made up (proof: Earth trial, you can see your shadows but not the rocks')
median stone
Hmmmm make my heart comfortable but not for my minds
ashen bloom
Well it’s implied that the spirits made them
clear vector
The trials are like "trials" in basically any other game
icy spruce
And fire can create smoke and LIFE
ashen bloom
And they’re trials to test us
clear vector
They aren't real worlds
icy spruce
yes
ashen bloom
They might be preparing us for smthn
median stone
They aren't real now....
icy spruce
They are like an illusion or smthng
ashen bloom
made by the spirits
queen locust
Those worms are either from the screwed up minds of us or the Fire Prophet
ashen bloom
Fire prophet
median stone
We're naming something unreal thingis
queen locust
who personified fear into something weirdly really furry
ashen bloom
or Smokey
bright relic
:)
median stone
Smoke can be mysterious meaning
icy spruce
ye
ashen bloom
they are pretty smokey tho
queen locust
Smoke has just as much power as the fire that wrought it to render a land uninhabitable
bright relic
owl things are baby krill and i'm sticking to my theory
queen locust
Given that you have enough smoke to do so
ashen bloom
the smoke is the thing that kills u not the fire part
median stone
Ahh plus with krill, emmmmm delicious smokey krill grill
icy spruce
I-
ashen bloom
*fire eye parts
livid valley
bru-
median stone
Gonna be my plate
icy spruce
I'm sticking to everything we see in trials are made up or smthng
queen locust
I'm sticking with that belief of yours XD
median stone
Yeah they just trials
ashen bloom
For some reason...
bright relic
for the baby krills to prove themselves too 
ashen bloom
but they’re not real
livid valley
what if there were no baby krills.
ashen bloom
and I think the fact that the smoke kills u not the eyes is kinda important
queen locust
I mean- you can't have your prophets literally die that much dawg
pastel brookBOT
The prophets foresee everything 👁️
icy spruce
What if the krills we see ARE baby krills
Since in the mural
the krill we see is HUGE
ashen bloom
I think the prophets might be preparing us for smthn
livid valley
;0;
icy spruce
LIKE REALLY HUGE
grim tundra
I think I am giving up one of my old theories about the dark creatures... since there is a krill in the clouds in the final mural, I think it means that dark creatures were there already when the kingdom was founded and not a mechanical creation
ashen bloom
and they’re existing in harmony
queen locust
Please refrain from saying anything relating to procreation and reproduction- we're supposed to be keeping this a family-friendly channel
ashen bloom
So the krills were prob corrupted or neglected or smthn
queen locust
You don't say sperm here dawg-
icy spruce
I-
livid valley
yes please dont say that
ashen bloom
otherwise they wouldn’t eat the manta
icy spruce
More like yeet the manta-
ashen bloom
that poor manta
icy spruce
Ye :((
bright relic
The manta that gets poofed goes out with a familiar little fiery fizzle
icy spruce
Krilled 2098374567548398475647382938457 times
bright relic
But it doesn't lose light
ashen bloom
Ya but that’s likely bc it’s a creature of light
icy spruce
That manta had it worse than us
bright relic
because it is light ;-;
short owl
I am behind by a day. What did I miss?
icy spruce
A lot
queen locust
A lot Null-
bright relic
probably 1000 messages
livid valley
manta just died.
queen locust
good luck tryna catch up aksjkjak
icy spruce
But basically, we have scientific name for floof worm
short owl
...
haughty talon
Hehe floof worm
livid valley
lol.
bright relic
owl
ashen bloom
But krill most certainly were peaceful before bc of that mural
bright relic
W a t
queen locust
I'm kidding Null here's an essay that Butter wrote about the Fire Trial mural
@short owl
livid valley
LOL
haughty talon
The possible lore theories from prophecy caves.. Is that being documented somewhere? (I'm sorry, new to the channel)
ashen bloom
yay butter
icy spruce
Which is the same doc
haughty talon
Thanks
There are loads of materials to read
queen locust
I have a few compilations of the murals made by Wolf but I need my phone for Meet-
Just Vir is fine lmao don't pain yourself
haughty talon
Thanks to all who contributed to this channel over the years
livid valley
it be 1yr
ashen bloom
over the time
sick path
It feels like years
queen locust
is it a loreversay akjaksja
icy spruce
There was a mistake at the doc though
Since wind is balance and earth is resilence
but the balance and resilence were switched
so uh-
livid valley
balance
queen locust
Honest mistake, Butters did say she still had to polish it
icy spruce
true
queen locust
Also where were we- peaceful krill-
queen locust
Because legit I just thought that that one giant krill wasn't peaceful- just unprovoked
You have to go out of your way to aggravate a krill
icy spruce
Or is just at the clouds avoiding light
queen locust
literally
livid valley
someone bonk the krill and make it agressive for milliena
icy spruce
Since light was pretty dominant during those times
urban ginkgo
Which peaceful krill? The ark one?
pastel brookBOT
the future is already written bruh...
icy spruce
Sky bot
queen locust
Nah- the giant one we see in the last mural
icy spruce
wait
queen locust
Skybot pls
hushed steeple
I think i found the prince guys
queen locust
what the- where is that
neat flint
queen locust
Is that Orbit the heck-
urban ginkgo
That's the constellation table in orbit, but what?
icy spruce
BOOM GIANT KRILL AT BOTTOM LEFT CORNER
sick path
It looks like orbit with the door in the background
livid valley
dosent look peaceful
hushed steeple
you’ll never know
queen locust
It's subtly terrifying to know that you could fit several elder mantas in that gigantic krill
hushed steeple
hmahmahmahma
cold steppe
could be peaceful, could be trying to get into orbit
bright relic
Maybe it's not drawn to scale? desperate laughter
urban ginkgo
But is the krill to scale, or just closer to us?
bright relic
Is it just me, or does the elder manta vaguely look a bit like a krill?
queen locust
The perspective isn't all right but it's still bigger than the mantas-
cold steppe
though it could just be shape similarity and not really have a connection
queen locust
And roughly every light creature in the mural combined
cold steppe
since it's a mural, do you think it was drawn to scale, or drawn to emphasize the most important parts, or maybe a mix?
icy spruce
What if the krills we see are babies
unique flax
This thing from a wrinkle in time(movie) looks like the fire trial, but further away
icy spruce
Since that krill was huge
cold steppe
also take potential perspective into account I guess
livid valley
idk about that movie or even know it existed
queen locust
Considering that the Prince looks ridiculously huge compared to everything in the mural I guess it's not all to scale-
icy spruce
true
hushed steeple
Also, i’m thinking that giant cloud is just this place
queen locust
Iirc that place from A Wrinkle In Time is like- a place of pure darkness or something
Feeding on the negativity of people on the other side
icy spruce
yes
cold steppe
if you consider the area with what looks like the prince as orbit then the area in front would be the space in front of the castle
of Eden
livid valley
if those are baby krills i wonder where the adult ones be going
short owl
Butter's theory is well thought out and all
queen locust
Like those whurtles
livid valley
do the krills have skeletons.
short owl
But how do I make Megabird evil in it?
short owl
Probably exoskeletons
icy spruce
yea
sacred rapids
and here is my updated prophecy shot cause I was a idiot and forgot to go to the braziers
pastel brookBOT
The Prophecy has been lost at sea, I wonder who'll find it...
queen locust
Megabird could just be a negligent god- that's bad in some interpretations-
ashen bloom
the intro says that they starting living in the clouds implying that there’s a thing under it
hushed steeple
In the mural it looks like they put Vault above the cloud... which is scary considering that they put this here
icy spruce
I thought Vault is inside the mountain-
hushed steeple
ikr
livid valley
its part inside the mountain
icy spruce
ye
ashen bloom
ya it’s inside
vestal swift
Doesnt this mean that the vault should have been decimated along with eden?
ashen bloom
maybe the krill protected it
icy spruce
Most likely
livid valley
considering vault in mountain it was protected
ashen bloom
they seem to protect the vault
livid valley
its not like the mountain exploded
hushed steeple
Maybe the Vault before Eden is what Vault was like before whatever destroyed Eden. And the Vault here is.... I don’t know, this game is freaking me out
shell sluice
Or it’s deep in the mountain like the hobbit
ashen bloom
vault is a knowledge history place
queen locust
I don't think Vault specifically would have been destroyed if it's purpose was supposed to be keeping the literal history and knowledge of the Kingdom
icy spruce
Because at the end of Vault (after Vault cutscene) the Elavator is badly broken and we are at the first floor and debris everywhere
*elevator
queen locust
I'd imagine that an important place like Vault would be well-protected
vestal swift
Personally i think the vault is half real half projection. We do see that the vault is the closest to orbit as of the Sky, but what if it is in orbit?
livid valley
its porbably the cause of the shaking at vault
queen locust
That's a bit of a stretch considering you have to pass through Eden to even get to Orbit
Hell you have to die to REACH Orbit
shell sluice
And ||die||
ashen bloom
Don’t forget that vault is full of magic spirits
queen locust
No need to spoiler tag here Brie
ashen bloom
what exactly is orbit
vestal swift
The place after eden
ashen bloom
Its prob not real
queen locust
Space? Heaven? The Empyrean?
hushed steeple
But look here
ashen bloom
@vestal swift o h w o w r e a l l y?
shell sluice
Vault is the T shape, red is clouds
queen locust
Under the castle but not quite there idk-
sick path
Ooo that kinda looks like Megabird’s shape
kind bobcat
me : hehe finally some good lore
the mural :
queen locust
You see the elevator
ashen bloom
Ya
vestal swift
The rest of the realms ig because the vault is a tower
livid valley
LMAO
queen locust
Goober literally scroll up XD
vestal swift
So it would generally be taller
ashen bloom
but big light we go to
livid valley
Goober be buggin
queen locust
The rest of the murals are up there
kind bobcat
im just big sad the mural disappeared when i was so excited for that one 😔
livid valley
big sad
livid valley
ashen bloom
wait but what if prince is big light thing
livid valley
this one bru
queen locust
If it's the glowy Prince mural just light up the braziers
kind bobcat
Anyways, heres all the shiny boi occurances
ashen bloom
Bc it looks like it
bright relic
from that diagram it looks like the vault is the head of the bird
the vault of knowledge is a bird's brain
vestal swift
Oh god
livid valley
megan confirmed
hushed steeple
The triangle above the cloud has all the features of Vault,
kind bobcat
man
bright relic
all this time we've been living inside a birb
shell sluice
The clouds could be from wasteland
queen locust
Idk about you guys but once I think I heard someone liken the clouds to a boat tho
hushed steeple
pfft
shell sluice
wasteland is completely covered in clouds, and we have to fall into the clouds. Then when you pass through the gate everything above you is still clouds
kind bobcat
hushed steeple
i think i should pin that video... am i even able to tho ? 🤔 im not :’0
vestal swift
Are those corpses i see in the last one
ashen bloom
so the elements were used to give him power thing?
kind bobcat
Theres one more but i havent gotten a good screenshot of it.
icy spruce
Prince is the Avatar confirmed
vestal swift
Prenc has crown
bright relic
no they're not corpses they're decorative rugs ;-;
fossil mason
i like to think that the king (or prince or whatever) that the murals here are how he came to be who he was in the story that he did all these things and made the world below and rewched the top of a mountain and ascended to orbit (but a little thouvht of mine though its probably way not right)
fossil mason
yeah we die all the time im sure they are fine
livid valley
they sneep
ashen bloom
Happens
queen locust
would an Ancestor even make a good rug
bright relic
decorative rugs
ashen bloom
they’re in the water too
bright relic
tries to hold onto innocence
livid valley
would an Ancestor even make a good rug
@queen locust i would love one
ashen bloom
They prob drowned
fossil mason
sky kids make good rugs i dont see why ancestors wouldnt
ashen bloom
As decorative rugs
bright relic
the rugs are being washed
queen locust
Fair point-
livid valley
imagine drowining ur rugs smhh
vestal swift
But the rugs were seen in the fire trial mural tho right
queen locust
Imagine putting your rugs up against light-draining dust bunnies
bright relic
(are we just gonna call them rugs from now on because if so I am totally up for that, especially the part where others try to figure out what the krill these 'rugs' are)
vestal swift
Why not
queen locust
Heck imagine making your rugs do parkour
ashen bloom
yes
bright relic
👍