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WH-WHAT WAS THAT PLACE,, IN ASH'S PICTURES??
what if they stored the Heart of the King in Home?

/opening cutscene island ali
they said sky kids were like angellic creatures??
/Flos! The return shrine
well
/is that the heart of the king
There where stars right?
There are no spirits in home and no relation of home with anything in realms , i don't think "home" existed back then, or idk if it still Exists,maybe it's just a simulation or a dreamy state of mind
/and there werre many more in stormlock
@broken basin we have ts and quest givers tho
/opening cutscene island ali
@gilded fossil opening cutscene whereisn't the opening cutscene just water
/nooope
@broken basin we have ts and quest givers tho
@bitter shale yra
/ali, search up sky opening cutscene!
Ooooh
"music is more than half of the experience
"music is more than half of the experience
@wispy cedar sound*
@pseudo heart mmm well
/that;s the one boba
π
Well, they also meant that lore wise i guess @wispy cedar
Our home star is very close from home it seems
I take that the intro cutscene isn't accessible in game,, is it
/nope ali
Darn
That far Island u see are the opening cutscene island flos
Yep, but you cant go there by any method now
Ya
Sadly
There are many theories
One theory is that sky kids are light brought together by a diamond in a middle a diamond that contains the kings soul.each sky kid has a tiny bit of the diamond that contains the kings soul. Far fetched if you read it right now but if you look in a past convo it might make sense
"Diamond in the middle of a diamond" :
If it was how can spirits reach it?
If it was how can spirits reach it?
@meager canyon i thought about it
One big mystery is if home is actually part of the lore
yes please
I still feel like home is something related to Megabird, we can access all the Spirits that we see going up in the realm cutscenes, so maybe all the Spirits go to orbit and then stay there , that's why we can access them from home
What i wanna say is home is a place / simulation craeted by megan, and it might be it's heart
I still feel like home is something related to Megabird, we can access all the Spirits that we see going up in the realm cutscenes, so maybe all the Spirits go to orbit and then stay there , that's why we can access them from home
What i wanna say is home is a place / simulation craeted by megan, and it might be it's heart
@broken basin whos megan
my theory about skids is, their existence hold for a very big purpose
think about this. why we have to be reincarnated over and over? not only to get more wls, but also to bring back the fallen stars to the orbit . Fallen stars here are not only the elders, but the Ancestors too!
did you guys remember that we got Ascended Candles from those statues we have saved in the Eye of Eden? We can use those candles to unlock the Item Tree from each Spirit. Coincidently, only spirits that we have given Ascended Candles are the one who we meet and give us WL in Orbit.
Ascending in orbit i mean
Yeah, maybe, we can access them from Orbit but not from home
Ahah my head is confused now
But Spirits, we can access them in orbit as well as in home, but only When we free them snd they go to the sky above
Maybe there just. A simulater
not only to 'bring back the fallen stars', we are actually the trigger of the Ascend to the Orbit . I have proof for this. when i went to Orbit today i purposely get stuck on buildings along the ascend way. and i noticed all light creatures are stop on their track . its like they are waiting for skids to fly along with them, lead them to the orbit
damn dude, your dedication makes me happy
Also, orbit/eden architecture is like valley, which makes sense. Since king's castle must've had the most developed architecture
Also, i see that flos , the Mantas always try to come near us so that we can ride them
Wait...is that eden?
Havent you ever thinked why and what are krills and crabs and why do they do what they do and how sent them
I think that there just wild animals or somthing i dont really know
so the conclusion is, our purpose as Skids or Children fo The Lights is not only to bring the fallen stars home, but also to lead the Ascend. We are the important key for the Rebirth Cycle. without us the rebirth cycle wont continue
As you can see here they have bones
Flos it's not only there... I noticed in fly race too..
makes sense
I call it post eden, but it still is a part of eden and not orbit
indeed! the realms actually some kind of simulation for us to lead the Ascend, sort of
It's a whale skeleton norah
oh I haven't been to that part of eden
Cretaures in Valley race will also wait for us to continue our race if we get stuck in one part
creatures in valley race?

maybe we're time travellers
creatures in valley race?
@meager canyon mantas
I belive that there were a lot of whales earlier but they all were hunted down, by hunters in Forest and other people since thye were a heavy light source and therefore, they got extinct.
The only one who remained was their big elder
There are birds in flying race too
@hushed steeple those are everywhereβ_β
I always feel like those birds or whatever thing they are were sent by isle elder amd their only motive is to guide us the way to orbit
I dont really think there whales tbh
I think whales are the thing that destroyed the castle in eden
Well, most people call them whales, that's what i call them
okay but do you guys know that Valley symbolizing Adulthood right?
seems like valley race is some kind of simulation for our original purpose as the Ascend trigger. Valley is where we got reminded about our purpose as a Child of Light
Boop elder manta is different
Elder mantas don't really look like whales tho
@hushed steeple
No, elder manta is different boop.
to lead the light cretaure to the final place
Elder manta is that we see in sanctuary
I just called em light krill first time I got rebirth
elder manta?? oh
And whales are those we see in forest underground, between valley and waste,and eden
oh
man i want to go look at this place closer but the camera keep dragging me-
I mean the whale we see now, in Forest, in orbit and in mid valley wastland place is 1 whale not , 3 .
And that is the elder of the whales, since it has a stone mask. Amd all other normal small whales are extinct
@bitter shale i went close to that
The spirit mantas?
thats lucky-
Wait imma send pics
I think that's a cosmic elder manta amd not a whale just cause of those fins and a flatter shape
The spirit mantas?
@meager canyon yeah but like the big one with lots of candles
lanterns*
Srsly what part of eden is that?
oh my- thats the valley elders
DAAANG
These ones are big
their statue
Those are big
Yeah spirit mantas. The transparent one
and- its like vault's summit
Lol it took 2 hours long to land there
Srsly what part of eden is that?
@meager canyon in the pic? I think that's mid-ascension??
That makes me really think if vault one is just a copy/simulation
Ugh connection sleowee
now i will literally drag my friend to go there-
Is that all the elders?
yeah, like vault's summit
U all want tutorial to go there...?
u could uber me there-
These look like perfectly sized thrones for them
U all want tutorial to go there...?
@hushed steeple please
U all want tutorial to go there...?
@hushed steeple yes pleas
It's eden reset Tomorrow too ππ
ngl that would be a very uncomfortable throne
Also please I don't get eden very much explain I thought the last part of eden was the one with the raining rocks and the fallen
Yeah, but
Also please I don't get eden very much explain I thought the last part of eden was the one with the raining rocks and the fallen
@meager canyon the flying part after you lose all your light and hugging the kid
look liek this
@wispy cedar yeah I guess
Ya but huge sized boop
Yeah, but Almost 3 times bigger
indeed
I thought that was the last part is there more?@wispy cedar
BC I didn't see any of the statues and stuff
I thought that was the last part is there more?@wispy cedar
@meager canyon its the last part
ya need to move your camera, since it will be automatically panned out so you cant see those statues
do you think that's considered an oob?? unless the mods intended it to be there-
God I'm confused with All your terms and stuff
for lore purposes, or maybe for decoration?
Sometimes it's good to travel slowly and look carefully to your surroundings. Maybe you'll discover something new
Not really out of bounds
Sometimes it's good to travel slowly and look carefully to your surroundings
@hushed steeple
laughs in always trying to get through rebirth fast BC I thought it was too long
Oh. No guys i. Gotta go have fun bye
laughs in speed flying through orbit 5 mins before leaving for school
do you guys think this looks almost like eden door?
@bitter shale it's actually a king statue
oh wow
omg where do you get all them screenshots broooo
aw hell no i will go check on that place again tommorow
@meager canyon with difficulties because my game keeps lagging-
Ya ginko went there... Near the top of the door.. and found a king statue's head@bitter shale
Same flos
Potato phone problems
Wait- tHe KiNg iS tHe DoOr?!?!?
yeah! the castle has king statues as pillars
@bitter shale if it's not too much to ask, can you bring me there someday?
@hushed steeple i mean, youa re not wrong
Lol there are so many king statues
also the statues in the last part of eden
@wispy cedar i mena why not, but i might rarely play sky for next week
@wispy cedar i mena why not, but i might rarely play sky for next week
@bitter shale its alright, take your time
thanks
haha what do king statues even look like?????
King reference is everywhere.
#lore-discussion-spoilers message @bitter shale
In gw statues, in Forest doors, in praire bell things,
amio thank you
the ancestors loved statues a lot, huhh
Wait, is there any king realted thing is valley and vault? Can't think of any
brick the lore veteran, please, come forward
HOW-
from long time ago
teach me your ways
This is?
where is this
In concept the prince was crowned in valley.. that's what i remember wolf
first step : have a friend with so many wedges-
Gw statue?
wait that isle thing is the king? damn never knew
But there's no king reference in vault or even in valley
Oh that's the king?
I joined just when the chat is alive... tell me what are we talking about pls
the king dude
Oooh nice
yes yes
@broken basin it's saying that the vault itself is a giant king statue
Where are all the king location statues and which realm doesnt have em?
Res's valley vault against king theory intensifies
what is the king tho
tehre also this fallen king statue in gw
are they the ruler of sky kingdom or such
Maybe not, we do see vault summit, from eden and it's nothing like king's head amio
thanks Boop
are they the ruler of sky kingdom or such
@wispy cedar he was
also this
under the office portal
If there are any realms without king statues that would help a lot
okay but this spiral thing in office portal really looks liek my pfp isnt
Office isn't vault connected or lore realted
King king..... what i have about the king? Nothing
I mean, the actual vault
Anyway There's a theory that says skykids are the king.. or part of king .. and everything supports it.. so wherever you go king is with you
Didn't res say valley and vault being against the king
Anyway There's a theory that says skykids are the king.. or part of king .. and everything supports it.. so wherever you go king is with you
@hushed steeple yes there is
I was in the convo
And neither are there any king references in any of them
If there are, i Havent noticed any
full pic of my pfp
lmaoo
Oh what is that?
I've another version.. but can't share here.. dm if u want to see
Anything inside office is not canon, but outside, like the portal, is canon
@hushed steeple
So you telling me sky had ping pong tables and diorama houses π
That's megabird 
Well, that office art looks like a version of flos's pfp
this spiral thing is actually depic the Rebirth Cycle
To me that's saying that all the creatures have a part in water that's why they are all water creatures BC in sky water represents life
Yeah
reincarnation cycle
Well I've thought it wss megabird
Are those blue things supposed to represnt the darkness we gather while in the sky world and then go to meagn and become light again and repeat
But... then we aren't the only who reincarnates?
might be
not all creature stay pure light when they went to mortal realm ya kno
just like human
Anyway imma go now ... Happy theorizing all
Megan is a big part in the reincarnation but megan is confusing in itself. I don't quite grasp the concept of megan.
There are only two constellations in orbit? Well... if megabird is confirmated as a constellation
Bye amio
might be because megan is a god figure, and us human cant even fullt grasp the concept of god
Weren't the devs human tooπ
Megabird/Megan isn't is even confirmes yet, right?
Confirmed *
What if it is the megamanta in sanctuary? 
Well, i think by the references, we know that there's a god figure , but the name meagbird ain't no canon
I know just a kind of joke.,
It's just that it's humongous and looks like a bird
That's why mega bird
Mine too, is hot in south america 
Megan chilling in ocean while skids dying to free em elders
Nah, i was just reffering to krebbys joke
I also realized that each constellation represent an item. Idk if that's important or if the items are just the elder's things also idk if it's a glitch but If you aren't checking the constellations, if you get in a certain position of you and the camera, the constellation appears and behind it is the item it represents very clearly.
And yes, sanctuary, Exists, that does looks like an ocean in the sky boop
Yeah thought so. Just asking if there was any deeper meaning
You guys noticed that the kid in the
emote isn't is a moth? Have teal cape and a hair i cannot recognize. Just a curiosity 
Hold on lemme examine
Yes , they do,
Isle- daleth's staff
Praire- ayin's pot or just the generic butterfly pots in prarie
Forest- teth's hammer and anvil
Valley - the twins' bats and a ball
Gw- tsadi's spear and shield or just the generic spears and shields in gw
Vault- memory lamtern in vault

Yes , they do,
Isle- daleth's staff
Praire- ayin's pot or just the generic butterfly pots in prarie
Forest- teth's hammer and anvil
Valley - the twins' bats and a ball
Gw- tsadi's spear and shield or just the generic spears and shields in gw
Vault- memory lamtern in vault
@broken basin hm
thought so@broken basin
mmmmm i have been thinking about the elders and their constellations
so we got our own constellation right? its where we can see and checked our friend list. the crown shaped constellation
what if its the same system with the elder constellation? the spirits on the constellation are some kind of 'close companion' or friend to the Elders
Hm

See, there are many theories saying we Together are the king, that's why i think , the Friends constellation, is sort of an eden constellation, since all of us are it.
Also, in vault cutscene , we see eden constellation shown as a crown
also, we can see our friend names on each angels taht fly toward orbit as well
what if teh reason we can only meet the elder after we complete the spirits on their constellation is because they didnt want to leave their friend?
hmm
But I bet there where many more ancestors then that. There is sign for more ancestors than there are spirits. Maybe the elders made their close friends spirits so they can continue living. Maybe not
that didnt sounds right imo
im reffering to my theory
also i noticed sometimes when you are flying there is this light catching up to u , swirl around for a sec n then go away , i noticed that it looks like a small bird - there's a small wing that flaps but unfortunately due to my lack of brain i cannot make any theories
Yes, There were gab, the shown ones are just some
Those are butterfly's kais
Ofc the whole massive kingdom isn't just a home of 37 people π
where?
and for butterflies the shape is noticeable
lmao
Yes, butterflies
sometimes it appears when you fly
@topaz girder i think i need an image to get what you're trying to say kai
Take a screenshot
Well,
light from clouds
We won't know until then, :
the cutscene island
and coicidently the place where the thunder clouds placed
Maybe boop
thats... an interesting take boop
Omg that sounds like Tinkerbell but sky
But then, why
why not-
Why>why not here imo
why we even existed? what are we?
why we even existed? what are we?
@bitter shale we where born to restore light to the kingdoms and save the spirit
i see it's existential crisis time in lore chat
Oh hello i'm back
skid are just suddenly exist, we didnt got born from something
Heyo res
I still don't know what stormlock is but I'm gonna play along to look smart
Hello
you know, i hate mantas sometimes
Flos you know when you start the game for first time ... I mean on your first day on sky... The home is as like the same as when you return home without completing eden
Photobomb
which storm
@hushed steeple yeah, that's why boop said what they said
eden storm
the red rock storm?
ye
hm
Mmmmmmmm.........
so i go to the usual place i'll find it , honk on the butterflies and fly , and uhhh no light , so it only appears sometimes ?
@meager canyon when you return home, from eden statues area, home is different, it has storm, and you can't go into any relams, you have to continue eden by using return shrine
wait we can go home after the point of no return???
Mmmm..
Yes
wait we can go home after the point of no return???
@bitter shale after hugging the prince yes
But we can't access any relams except eden thru return shrine
before hugging the boy
Yeah It said "point of no return" and I was like, well no point in trying to go home
now im lazy to get all teh wls again... sigh
U can go home anytime after the point of no return
@hushed steeple no if you're in storm you can't
I've never tried going home during the rock rain area so idk
we got sun here for a reason
That's indeed the sun flos
No
i emna
its on the way to ascend
That's their home star
Sun is the name of our home star
lit or not
what is this? a disscussion wheter we can go home after the point of no return? 
we got sun here for a reason
@bitter shale
Here outside of the wall pic
Forest hair and other elders hair isn't showing up on my hairs closet, I mean I didn't get them yet but other hairs I didn't get are there. Can't equipt them buf I can try em on..
We got a star there cause their universe might also be like ours, having plants revolving around a main star. And they live a planet too, that's why we see a star
wolf - still haven't tidied up that for king/against king thing leitmotifs but going by the themes, this is what i can give so far (i may be wrong so please take this with a grain of salt):
going by the elders' cutscene themes
for king (with "king" leitmotif) - valley
against king (without "king" leitmotif, has "heroic" leitmotif) - isle, prairie, forest (though king leitmotif plays in vault lvl 3 representing forest), gw
both: vault
boop - it's more of the butterfly catcher theme/one of the main leitmotifs, i forgot. elder theme (actually, i call it king leitmotif now since it doesn't appear in all the elder's themes after listening more) has a similar tune, but the king leitmotif has a single prolonged note at the beginning before the ascent of notes (see blow kiss ts' music sheet/music sheet 4 for the king leitmotif!)
Hm i don't have dora hair but it shows up
mushroom and asparagus best hairs
also its kind a bother me why they twins have a different and contradicting hairstyles when they was originally one person?
@solar relic that's kinda opposite,
We don't see any king statue/refrence in valley or vault do we?
While praire forest amd gw are full of them
Imagine that the valley elder is one but thier soul separated into 2 siblings
Well, at the end of each trial, the victory theme of the game plays,
Or more so, msuic sheet 5 plays
Wait
@meager canyon they're indeed one person...
I'm dumb what are leitmotifs
Music sheet 4+5 both play
that's kinda opposite,
We don't see any king statue/refrence in valley or vault do we?
While praire forest amd gw are full of them
maybe thats the reason why those three realms filled with propagandas!
i mean why bother assert your dominance on areas that clearly support and sworn loyalty to you?
Yeah :0
But, praire, Forest and gw were kind of like the most helpful to the king, since the process of power diamonds making took involvement to these 3 relams
Hm i really don't belong here do I
I think two main leitmotifs are music 4 and music sheet 5, you hear Their modified versions almost everywhere
Thats why the king need to assert his dominances on those areas even more, since its also where diamonds produced
wow you hardly ever have a "several people typing" on this chat unless I missed something big
But,why help the king When you don't support him?
Gabjoana have you read the lore moff doc yet?
Why not rebel?
Is the king too Powerful to rebel against
@hushed steeple technically
Mmmm might be 'not support' him, but their loyalty is questionable

Okay quick question everyone, which elders do you think support the king? And why?
So, is it like, the king wasn't aware of this supporting / not supporting him
I believe Samekh and Lamed already sworn loyalty to the King, while the other three seems to hestitated to sworn loyalty to him
the leitmotif classification was both for elders and the realms as well so i think
Tsadi
What if Samekh and Lamed are the closest to the King?
Okay quick question everyone, which elders do you think support the king? And why?
I'm with the group that believes that the elders forced the king into what he did
It kinda confuses me BC there is evidence there was war with gw and forest but why?
I feel like teth was the closest to him, since she was the one who came up with the idea of making power dimond in the 1st place, so the king must like her?
@broken basin maybe not
Well there are some statues of vault scholar in eden storm and ascent.. so i think someone was so close of king from vault or maybe that person helped king to build the big diamond
I feel like it was teth@hushed steeple
What if Vault is actually part of Eden?
I mean we did get straight to eden from Vault
And we get straight to vault from gw
It technically is but if that's the case all the realms are connected to eden
i would say prairie-forest-gw ancestors were more of the "lower-class" workers, which could be why they rebelled as they felt mistreated since they could have been overworked by power diamond farming and production
valley was pretty much the downtown and they had pretty comfy lives i'd believe so they didn't have any reason to go against the king when they were treated so well
as for vault, i think the vault elder was a double-agent of sorts trying to protect their scholars from the king and the war in general so they could archive everything in time before eden diamond go bRRr
I really love but really hate auto correct
Were valley elders even workers , from what i can see, they just played like kids
They're more like a vault scholar
this is how vault look like from eden
Yep
I feel like vault was a neutral thing. Just trying not to get the info in the vault in the wrong hands
U missed the upper part
Fly up
Rocket
i always got sweeped by the wind-
But then again vault seems like the second most powerful then the king like the second leader
Oooh so Trials bgm are a mix of Butterfly Catcher and King leitmotifs?
a but late uhh i wouldn't say exactly king leitmotif but the tune is kinda there?? yeah
I usually go far away and fly up , and i get a good look
I always bring my friends
King leitmotif isnt in a music sheet
Music sheet 4?
the blow kiss ts one yes
Oh
haha I'm staying out of this leitmotif thing bc I know nothing bout music
this is lore channel big brain time
is leitmotif basically another word for theme music?
But what I'm trying to say is that in trails, music sheet 4 amd 5 play, as lomg as what I've heard
lmao same boop
Same,
i rarely play any music sheet so i didnt get it-
Is it like
Hmm... Hmm hmm hmm hmmhmm hmm hmmmmmmmmmmm (x2)π
Lol
lmaooo
βΌοΈ
Yeah, if you've heard it you'll be able to listen what i wrote
the first hmm is what makes it the complete leitmotif
oh also
before the point of no return, in the cave, you can heard someone howlinh
you can what
it might sounds like wind howling but if you heard itbclosely
Oo, we hear a very spooky whisper
ghhaarrrr....
it sounds more like a man howling than wind
But Literally it scares me sometime when I wear headphones
brb going to the cave , be back in 5 mins mayb
woooOooOoooooOoo
@topaz girder its literally before the point of no return
go there and you can hear the howling clearly
actually i don't really hear the exact king leitmotif
i hear more of music sheet 5 + the whale call's music sheet
i cant go eden again since i just go back from it today-
Music sheet 4- hmm hmmm....... Hm hm hm hmmmm hmmmm.....
Hmm hmmm... Hm hm hm. Hmmmmmmmmmm
Hm hm......... Hm hmm hmm hmm.....hmmmmmmmmmm
Sorry(not complete)
something is getting corrupted before our very ears
the king howling in terror and suffering
actually it could be wind couldn't it?
i've heard spooky sounds by the eden pipes as well 
I don't think it is
It's just too much like a scary whisper
might be, but even the loudest wind wont sounds like that
and its clearly in deep ot the cave
well I have a theory that I haven't said here yet but it has to somewhat do with the pipes
It's only audible at the end of the cave
want to hear my half baked theory?
Near the point of no return boop?
Owh
You should hear sounds near the point of no return too
o can you send it here or to me boop? also i have the two music sheet recordings if yall want to make sense of the leitmotifs h
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Wear headphones for better experience 
ok ok
so the pipes are where the sludge of the light creatures after being turned into power diamonds since bad feeling like hate and vengeance don't get used for the diamonds. so all this bad sludge started to accumulate and started to split the pipes up. then the sludge started to pool into the water of wasteland and started binding with small creatures in that water, krill. as the sludge kept building and building then made the krill what they are today, giant dark creatures made out of the hate of the light creatures used for the diamonds
ok maybe it's not as half baked as I thought
Nice sounds
jou that's a pretty baked theory 
does it make sense tho?
i cant believe through my months of eden ubering and training i didnt hear those howls and whispers in the cave 
yall just made eden 10x creepier for me
Lost souls of dead people wanting to come out from sludge but they getting stuck for those pipes and pushing pipes continuesly
it could be possible that hate and vengeance manifest into darkness and thus create sludge, though it would depend on gw's proximity to eden
also, thanks again for the vid boop! was about to ask why your swing was so creaky LOL
well I think my krill theory helped made that a bit creeper for me to
not much boba just eden sounds and a krill theory
alright thanks
i want to think of something but my brain . Does Not

did you not listen to the eden metal howls?
lost souls clambering for release
it can be screeching of krills , krill bodies scratching the metal , and just metal being ,,, metal ??? idk how metal works
glad the sun is coming up around my place or I would not be in here rn
βΌοΈ
it's a bit to slow for falling scraps
Or the sludge crawling in the pipe, with metal parts stuck on their bodies...
Yes but Eden had been there for thousands or millions of years so aren't all of the metal gonna fall in those periods?
Since Eden is slowly falling down
And it has been millions of years since the explosion so-
also if I didn't make it clear
with my krill theory the sludge is kinda like the venom symbiote from marvel
All scraps must have fell then
Plus there's no way for metal going inside the pipes since they would have poured out already
OMG

NEW EMOJI!!
AHHHHH SO CUTE
the symbiote sludge clambers for a host
And if some fell slowly won't it have already came out millions of years ago?
Since Eden is really that old
these
Or maybe only thousands
All rocks seem to be stable
Plus there are no pipes in the windy area
Only some
they might be butterflies but it looks so - weird ???
I think it's been like 1500 years since the fall of the sky kingdom
But the entrances to those pipes are not visible

they might be butterflies but it looks so - weird ???
there are different species of butterfly
yellow blue and white
looks at doc OHOHOHO
Aren't butterflies soft creatures tho?
but it looks so weird to be butterflies -
well I think there's white
Aren't all the butterflies yellow-
I mean i used to deep call near birds as a moth because i thought they were butterflies
OHHHH
are the butterflies white or yellow? it's like the white gold blue black dress all over again LMAO
I THOUGHT THOSE WE'RE BUGS SINCE THEY WERE IN THE DISTANCE GLOWING
KAHAHAFFES
They have a blue trail too!
yeah
so just sent in a group chat the "is there a thing in the pipe" now to wait and see what happens
What is this diamond hole shaped thing in the starry night oob
hmm
I don't have any other pictures other than this
more king propaganda?
I have no idea
Also don't mind me i have tons of these pics
oh yeah i noticed that , i wanted to mention it but i couldn't find the picture 
I'm a screenshot connoisseur
the golden top kinda looks like king ??? idk
Yes sort of
The diamond hole is probably just a part of Valley architecture
I mean isn't everything Megan
i have 612 or something pics and i am impatient kshegdge

back to that eden pipe thing
is it just me or does that sound like a whale?
whale sounds more softer
huh
BUT IF ITS EATEN ,,, idk
βΌοΈ
References to the megabird slowly fades away after you progress through the realms
a whale in pain
After Valley it's all resh and no megan 
hmm
sorry i was low boop
there's a concept art with arches ( ? ) or entries of realms and the image of megabird does slowly fade away on there
βΌοΈ
still seems like more of a design thing
and it's an oob, which has little to no lore
lorefolks : sees one triangle / cross thingy , crown , or a diamond shape
lorefolks : IT'S KING !!!! IT'S KING
Well, yes
True
I think the king is about as tall as the giant statue on top of the wasteland temple
That's the prince for scale, i think.
which I also believe to be a sarcophagus for the king
whats a sarcophagus
Doodled by me for reference
genuinely stupid
the things Egyptian Pharaoh's where in
Why's there grass inside the temple
Janitor Brick must have forgotten to clean it up
so I think that the king is actually in that statue
maybe it grew
I also think that the smaller king statues are golems so don't believe everything I believe
well I'm off to sky to try and get black cape
have something for me when I get back please
that's a bit mean calling him a janitor isn't it?
us : king brick
also us : janitor brick
Iβm really late on that conversation about going home from pnr.
In my first experience in orbit, due to a bug that froze my screen, yet the game was still playable, I had to restart the game. I got back Home. And when I went to the Return shrine, I was back in orbit (the last part before you get reborn).
Yeish, between being Vault Vault, a propagandist, the king, and janitor, Brick must have no time
._.
/wait a second explain janitor brick
Janitor brick???
I think itβs not a rock that from the Isle.....
Itβs that hidden mural in jellyfish cave
Coz....sanc lore seems like doesnβt have close reference to prince lore.....and that prince mural is hidden inside that cave....why is that?
Hahahahah my English getting worse
Ehmmmm am I getting out of the topic?
not entirelysure if this is lore but i went to ||office|| and then i saw this ||golem kinda thing|| its right in front of the krill the stone bricks thing wasnt able to capture a full photo
You don't need to spoiler here
It was always there.. and anything in office isn't related to lore.. as it's just an Easter egg
And ya no need to spoiler tag here ^^
The office isn't connected to the lore in any way, just a fun little easter egg
ahhh okiii
thanks! kinda scared bout it thought it was gonna be a dangerous animal like the krills and crabs
But you can still get some lore fuel from there
.. the chart on wall
Yeah
oooh
thanks! kinda scared bout it thought it was gonna be a dangerous animal like the krills and crabs
@floral oasis no it's just for fun XD.. you can go near to it. But ya be aware of office krills.. they're still want to take your lights
Anyway back to lore
What do we have for lore?
I'm back wassup
Umm there are many to discuss .. like 1 I've posted earlier
This
It is also in wasteland and Eden-Orbit ascension
@vast latch
I noticed the one in Eden. That's what got me thinking about it. I just assumed this is what the krill looked like before they got corrupted. You have to admit, they look a lot like Krill
What is this exactly and where is this?
I believe it is in Wasteland temple
And the left thing?
Concept art
Those art works are on wasteland temple's pillars
Hmmmm
Do you think that's a pattern of vault level?
those murals are from Kingβs statue?
Could be
No not on king statue
The murals on the left kinda looks like the eden door
Maybe it's just me
I'm gonna check on them hold on
Can anyone please explain who king is ?
Ive a quick question... I saw this on the ark and wondered... were krills actually once creatures of the light? Or is this just a reference as to why the ark was built in the first place?? Just interestedπ
@stiff oasis have you read the lore moff doc?
Oof no-
I suggest to read that first
Where can I find it?
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once youβve read this, check out pins for more information. 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
By bricky
Here^^
Tyyyyyyyy
@opaque creek there's a krill petroling at the entrance of ark. I believe it's just a artwork of that krill
And about the shiny artwork .. notice everything on the boat drew with shiny colour ..so^^
Or maybe that krill was the one that took down the Ark.
Maybe but i don't think so actually
Possibly, I mean there was also a storm during that time
Hmm... in the enchantment spirit memories there was one spirit that created the artwork because he used one of the ladders against the ark... so the artwork was made after the ark broke down
Yeah
huh
All the spirits were alive after the ark crashed and lived there for long time i believe
Yeah, thereβs some more proof where the Shrug spirit was attempting to purify the water in a cavern behind the Ark.
The crab spirit was actually studying the crabs
Trying to look for a source of food
He tried to become friend of them
I tried too when i got the crab walk emote
Same
I thought they grant immunity to them
Also how come some of the inside jokes here are: Prenc,Kang,Keng ect. But nobody uses them
I sometimes use those lol
But sometimes don't
Prenc=prince

Fire prophet is big Boi
I wonder if the wasteland used to be like the ark after itβs been rejuvenated but after something happened to the king the krills escaped Eden and destroyed the wasteland to what it is today
Hhmmmmmm. M
Lore chat is sneeping again
lore chat dead π
is the cave thing in prairie a port? cos there's water, boats, and signs on the rock
Catching butterflies and but them in bottles
They catch butterflies for powers
Poor butterflies 
Has anyone got like a giant document for all the lore we have parsed so i don't end up asking something that's been answered
Oh okay
I found a video that do explain everything in sky but itβs chinese 
There is no explanation for the game
They didnβt make a full complete story bc they wanted kids to have their own theories and their own interpretation of the game without it being wrong
So if u see a YouTube explanation video on the βcomplete loreβ
Itβs wrong
Cuz there is none
There base canon lore
But thatβs about it
Ur the one that makes the details
Your the one that creates the story

the netease server has its own lore, so that was probably the lore you found being explained
Ok then
But can I translate the whole video and share it here
Itβs like I have to make a video 
if you want to translate, go ahead
just be aware itβs not the hard and fast truth 
the netease server has its own lore, so that was probably the lore you found being explained
@lethal stump what's netease?
the company who runs the chinese mainland server
I see
they have much more confirmed lore than the global version
i believe someone shared a document here of the chinese server lore and it was much longer than the current canon doc
buuuuut it also left less to the imagination 
Wait
I thought u had the link translated
I read it before
It was actually a pretty good story
It followed a lot of concepts
Ahhhh
Who has ittt

prairie translated to uno iβ
mantas are white giant bir...
mantas are albatrosses?
they donβt exactly look like birds 
where does the prophecy even exist in the game
or is that something they just came up with
okay I have corrected the βunoβ
We're still learning about the prophecy and what it means, but it has been confirmed to explain some lore I believe
I can't wait to see the finished mural 
jZifhfhdjdbdsis
Imagine saying-
"Lets go to uno"
Ok so in the Chinese servers sky kids are named guang?
Since "Xiao" in Chinese means "Little"
Meaning
Little Guang?
The king: soon i will control all the realms of sky with the power of darkness
Sanctuary guide: pulls out uno reverse card
infinite manta calls
darkness.exe has stopped working
also yea and no
ε means light, but we are called ε δΉεθ£ or something like that, which means descendants of [the] light, there is no way to know whether the definite article "the" is implied though, not without further context.
Prairie ?
it is suppose to be δΊιοΌno?
Lol you got that
I'm done reading
I forgot the Chinese of maps
;q;
I used to use Chinese in sky
Since Iβm chinese ;q;
Just one day lol
iβm coming!
with a new pic
Xiao means little or small
did the fire trial arrive?
No
Did y'all get fire trial?
Imma continue translate the video then post on YouTube and send here
hi the trial fire has not been released to live, how did you obtain the text for it?
Candle
IS BETA
Candles
beta is forbidden knowledge
The trial of air is easier than it
water is the easiest
Guys back to lore
wouldn't that still count as beta content?
Says the beta player
yeah i was wondering that too res
where is bricky when you need him
Y'all are getting warmer to what fire trial is
I'm not telling because it's spoiler hehe
Guys back to lore
@hushed steeple Iβve forgot that this channel is lore discussion
i can tell you if fire is not out yet it is beta, unless the teasers had the trial descriptions?
i don't recall the teasers/trailers having that line. it's one line but i think it still counts as beta content which shouldn't be here
^
I saw you talking about Xiao?
Xiao(Chinese character ε°) means little
Guang is Light
But you canβt understand in this way
Xiao Guang is CN version official mascot
A lot of chinese nicknames start with xiao
A virtual character/player
When officials write blogs or texts they often call themselves Xiao Guang
OH like the AI virtual girl in youtube?
@hushed steeple yep
OH like the AI virtual girl in youtube?
@hushed steeple well, itβs just a character officials made
thereβs also Xiao Yu
which is Xiao Guangβs little sister
wait what
Little rain?
Theyβre just mascots
What's the tone on that?
Yu (ι)
I see
prophet clone reporting for duty! 
What about the elements in the murals
I still don't have Theories for that
I was planning to Explore the whole sky and find some Cravings
But I don't have time for that
@willow shoal your post regarding content in the fire trial is beta content, please remove it
return of the king
thatβs fireβs murals?
@tacit coral your post about the trials also contains beta content, specifically under the spoilered text. please remove it
Sneak peak of the translated video (Iβm tired of bluring)
Oh wait did it say the fourth characteristic
Iβm tired of translating hard words
what hard words
also forgot to say "Happy Halloween to all you fellow theorists", it is probably too late now since it is past halloween for most of you
Me too
It passed for me
Challenges for english learners
boo
Look, itβs behind you @tight sable! aaaaah! 

ghost bot
Scary

bot power is from dark stone
My English is more worse than you 
Hello peeps
I noticed this while going to Eden
The statues (or throne room as I call it) is here to
Even Tho its mostly seen in vault
yes, those statues are actually bigger than the ones in vault
I have a half baked theory. The krills were made in Eden before the realm was corrupted. I saw somewhere else that maybe the light that they have is a power diamond, so if it is, it got corrupted too. If you watch their movements, they do have a pattern that they follow too; looking for things that are in their path and destroying what they consider a threat. They definitely seem like they are made to guard something, but I'm not really sure what that is.
/hmm wave, so you think they are 100% made or were they light creatures that got kidnapped and corrupted?
I'm not really sure on that. I keep going back and forth. Maybe they were caught and selectively bread and modified into the perfect guard dogs
Then again, them being completely created would explain the metallic sounds that they make when they pass by
Maybe they were doing their job well (guarding something in Eden) untill they got corrupted by the pollution or something
They could have even been creatures of light that were guarding something important before they got corrupted
idk if this has been mentioned before, but a broken version of the forest temple is in waste
I think krill's where made of diamond but not made intentionally bad
itβs slightly different iirc, but yes itβs another power diamond factory
Brickkkkkkkkkk watzup
I think krill's where made of diamond but not made intentionally bad
Yeah I agree
hi, i donβt think iβve met you before
Wa-
I think krill's where made of diamond but not made intentionally bad
Kinda disagree, they arenβt made of diamond bc they are corrupted light creatures, but i agree they could have been corrupted by them
what are the theories for the season of prophecy? :))
are the lights depicted on the murals related to the lights in enchantment?
likely not
Well there are the lights theory, the lights in the mural are fake and the ones in enchantment ate real
well
possibly
itβs still debated
and until we get the final fire mural we canβt exactly theorize much
hmmm
i did notice that the mural unlocked by air had figures that kinda looked like the elders
Then there is the theory where the lights on the eyes on each thing at the end of each trial are diamonds
like on the right was the prairie elder, and the ones on the boat had twin figures so possibly valley elder
idk if this has been mentioned before, but a broken version of the forest temple is in waste
@hushed steeple yep
im 99% sure those are the elders, and most people agree
itβs LoneWolf, the @ is in the picture
oh that's a very beautiful diagram
Oh

I'm just really happy, I've always wanted to take part in the lore chat. I love theorizing about this stuff, but I needed some time to get caught up on the lore and figure everything out (I'm pretty new). Hopefully I'll be a good lore person!

haha I'm not I can't even spell things rigt
ooh, i like the theory presented in the diagram
I thought the bottom right mural in the second pic is about the reason why the rain in hidden forest is harmful
I'm just really happy, I've always wanted to take part in the lore chat. I love theorizing about this stuff, but I needed some time to get caught up on the lore and figure everything out (I'm pretty new). Hopefully I'll be a good lore person!
@lost widget you'll do good, good luck with your theorising
But there's a theory where wasteland is corrupted forest so it kinda can go both ways
Nah don't really think so
But there's a theory where wasteland is corrupted forest so it kinda can go both ways
@tawny summit yeah it implies that
I have a theory that forest and gw was at war at one point
is this the first time that a "forest wasteland theory" was proposed
no, it's not the first time
Hey res 
ah so what were the other evidences supporting it
the first krill area
yeah that's the only evidence i've seen so far but personally i don't believe in that theory
I used to think it was but now I'm kinda doubtful too
I'm still on my forest and gw had war theory
Actually the diamond press in the first krill area seems kinda bigger than forest one
Well i find the first krill area is the only one that looks similar to forest
I thought that wasteland was kind of like a lower part of valley
hi amio youre back
And if gw was forest how are there 2 forests? If ur saying sky kids are time travelers no. They are not
Possible waves
Well i find the first krill area is the only one that looks similar to forest
@tawny summit well i think it doesn't necessarily imply there was a forest
just a diamond production
*forest temple
The first krill area looked like a broken kingdom tbh
also the gw graveyard has a lot of skulls so it's likely life used to thrive there or am i wrong
it's literally called graveyard
I mean if it was part of forest I think that there would at least be some tree stumps or something
/biggggg creatures
I mean if it was part of forest I think that there would at least be some tree stumps or something
@lost widget that too
yeah i guess that's true
Yeah so the theory that wasteland wasnt capable of civilization from the start is a no-go
/hey maybe there were large supplys of light in forms of whurtles and they stabed them all
Well gw wasn't forest but i do believe there were trees in wasteland like forest
imo having the same diamond structure in both areas could just signify that they are industrial areas, it's not unheard of to have multiple products of the same model of equipment just like irl
People lived in wasteland
the trees and plants might have been all reduced to ashes, that's why you find none
People lived in wasteland
@ornate olive I mean there are spirits so obviously
You see two valley style buildings buried in the sand
the trees and plants might have been all reduced to ashes, that's why you find none
That's what's shown in the mural, i guess
the trees and plants might have been all reduced to ashes, that's why you find none
@verbal elm there are some small trees in ark.. those are the last evidence that there were trees in wasteland..
Thats strange... There is forest symbols and stuff but valley styled buildings?
Forest itself is located near valley
irl there can be oil spots in deserts so it couldve origionally been a desert kingdom but what if they used up so many of the resources and starting polluting the area and used mechanics and oils to build this krills maybe for faster movement but overtiime since everyone left and the kingdom became broken the krills continued the use of the oil and forgot about their origional makers?
There are pipes in wasteland tho so that explains the oil
/okay if we put irl science oil is very flamable
And you light flames near it so...
/one skid in there would have the whole thing on firre
So it might not be oil
But the underneath looks colorful just like oil reflection (?)
If one skid brought their candle out it will just be. BOOM
/bubble water then. Its colorful too
What would the corruption/oil material be made out of though? I heard that animal bones are a theory, but I'm not convinced
XD
Oof
Just the remains I guess
i don't think the sludge is exactly oil, it just has the oil spill effect. then again i don't think our flame is exactly a flame considering it doesn't set fire to the oil and doesn't go extinguished in water... but that just might be game mechs as well to make everything easier
is the boat going to the ark in water or sludge ?
Oh, so the remains of creatures. I get it, thanks!
I believe that the machines where made for diamond production
hahaha
/sludge is everywhere
then again the water might be just dirty water since it takes your light-
There's no clean water in wasteland except relived ark
Ark really is the pearl in gw
I mean there can be some dangerous things such as pathogens in decaying materials irl, but that probably doesn't apply to sky
It's only one of three things that slowly drains your light. The other two being the rain n forest and the red crystals in Eden
Pathogens-?
@meager canyon yeah I'm not really sure if that's exactly it though
krill-
True, but like over time
No like what are pathogens-
Oh sorry lol
I'm dumb plz explain
Like a deadly disease or virus
there is no covid in 19
Oki
this reminds me of the epigenetics in sky discussion a few months ago 




