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Ooh
Tencent and Netease are chinese giants that basically proxy external services, I don't know how to explain it, you can think of them as publishers yeah
that said, they basically can control the majority of features of the proxied service within mainland
MC in mainland is quite different than International
anyways this is getting off topic
this server is targeted at the global version so it may be confusing to bring in netease server content
I think Netease wouldn't bother to change the story, rather I think they do not took the "ambiguious storyline that faciliate projections of intepretation" idea as seriously because they are in it for the ||money||, so you get to see major details revealed in notes tlike this
NetEase is responsible for IDV
ok back to lore
I was looking through the tomcepts and found that something looks kinda familiar for anyone who watched the prophecy reveal trailer
It should be interesting to see if the resemblance is anything more than just looking similar
oh that big sphere at the end right
yeah
just looking at it makes me scared
/it looks like it sucking things in??
||With Sky, we are looking to make an intriguing, ever-expanding world above the clouds, that is filled with light and darkness. As a ‘Descendant,’ your goal is to collaborate with other players to unearth the buried mysteries in the kingdom. Only by working together can you progress in the world. Using the power of light and candles, you and others need to spread light across the kingdom as you encounter a cast of characters and creatures who may be able to help you along the way.|| ——thatgamecompany November 16, 2017
we are not skykids but “Descendants “
I think it came out when sky was still Light Awaits, so I thnik we play as 'Descendant' in Light Awaits?
i’m new to the lore of sky, but i was wondering what the king’s symbol is and what the long statues look like? thanks!
the story fluctuated alot in Light Awaits I heard
omg thank you so much!! 💗
/lorre moff doc yet brown?
a clear image of eden pretty rare
Found a map 🗺
The map is great
This is it
If my map that u guys said looked like an onion were drawn better it would look like this
Oh and my situation has improved and i dont need us to wait till monday... if anyone cared...
@wintry gull welcome to lore channel. i heard you are interested in teh king statue?
To move on with the scientific name thijg we need to decide a few things.....
sorry pyre-
Its ok
Now comes the important part
We need to do a series of votes to decide the class of the species
Ok so mammals r A, birds r B, fish r C, reptiles r D, invertebrates r E, and amphibians r F
Mantas
Crabs
Krill
Whales
Jellies
Butterflies
Vote plz
Okokok imma fix stuff
i dont think we can necessarily categorize these creatures the way we do earth ones
crabs are uhhh
Crustacean
My plan is to leave everything as it is from kingdom to family
let’s start by identifying commonalities and differences among the life forms we see, and from there we can categorize
The jellyfish, whales and mantas fly in Sky
Wait so we ditch the taxonomical thingies?
well like blue said
let’s start from scratch
Ok then
i think there are some basic yes/no questions we can create already to make some categories
can it fly ?
does it attack ?
is it light ?
is it dark ?
is it neutral ?
Fly and attack r prob not.... u know.... good ideas
elaborate ?
Like insects and birds both fly but they r in very different categories.... i was thinking making our biggest category brightness
Light neurtal dark
i think fly and attack are eligible traits
Then we would go pure and symbiosis for the light and pure and corrupted for the dark
these are the broad strokes rn, pyre
Yes
we’re making big categories, from which we’ll make smaller and smaller ones later
and as a broad stroke, clarifying if something can/can’t fly is a good idea
we will get to your analogy, the difference between birds and butterflies for example, as we categorize further
Ok then
Wut will be the largest category? The sky equivalent of a kingdom?
Ish
I say brightness
hm
considering the systems in sky, maybe Light, Dark, and Neutral
Yes
A quick run-down would be
Light
Mantas (all types), Butterflies, Jellies, Mushrooms
Dark
Dark Dragons, Crabs, Darkness
Neutral
Whale, Skykids (maybe Elders and Ancestors too ?)
but it harms us
I can not believe i am saying this but game mech prob look at its color scheme
Plus it ascends with us in eden
Bricky u there?
im confused, elaborate ?
In eden only light creatures ascend to orbit and the whale comes too...
Ok so there r 2 types of light creatures
but yet we’re made of both darkness and light and we ascend
The ones that r transparent and the ones that r not
but yet we’re made of both darkness and light and we ascend
@lethal stump oh...
Hmmm
But brick the color scheme
Plus we prob only ascend cuz we r the trigger for Ascension
Ok then the whale is neutral
Ok then
does the whale harm crabs?
There r 2 types ofight creatures, the translucent type and the opaque type
there is actually only one way to test it
we don’t see the whale interact with other beings, really
but we can make it interact
good luck
Grab a crab and stick it in front of a whale? It isnt possible... its too far
yep too far
this is important to naming too, pyre
So opaque and translucent creatures
one can never be too thorough with science
But... like we agreed that whales r neutral.... and there is no way to test it on crabs...
Sooooo
opaque and translucent creatures do we agree
Ok wut now?
lemme outline how i see it
[Brightness]
[Flight]
[Hostility]
[Translucency]
[Other, such as number of appendages & such]
you can do it, you need a friend with piggyback
@hushed steeple plz test it out then vid plz
if you hold a crab while being on a piggyback ride, you won't drop the crab unless you go through a portal
[Brightness]
[Flight]
[Hostility]
[Translucency]
[Other, such as number of appendages & such]
@lethal stump ok..... but hostility is almost the same as brightness
ideally you would do this at the end of valley
dark plants don’t attack you
They do...
and have your friend fly fast enough and you drop the crab on the whale
watch out guys,
the dark plant has a knife
Ok try it and then come back plz
Lambda
I have no friends, also I took a break from the game
Well dark animals attack light animals or neutral animals and thats canon
this isn’t only for animals
No im sorry dark creatures
[Brightness]
[Flight]
[Hostility]
[Translucency]
[Other, such as number of appendages & such]
what is this for brick?
We r revolutionizing sky creature classification
increasingly precise categories for organizing sky creatures
Yes
Dark creatures try to take light we r just too smart for plants
Spirits and light creatures all die from dark plants
hostility is kind of subjective but ok
And its like the same as brightness almost
Lets take out hostility...
That leaves flying
I mean brightness is ok because it can be an absolute measure, eg. luminosity
but I don't know about hostility
Yesyes
Plus if its light its safe and if its dark it isnt
[Brightness]
[Sentience]
[Flight]
[Translucency]
[Other, such as number of appendages & such]
how about this
No not sentience
how else are we gonna separate animals from plants ?
We r closer to chimpanzees than we r to dolphins sentience just isnt right
Most animals arent sentient
they can’t think ?
That isnt sentience
Only humans r sentiment on earth i think
I think you mean sapience, sentient is just the ability or rather capability to sense/respond to its world
So the plant thing, i was thinking before we get to brightness we do animals,plants and fungi
we are self-conscious but all creatures are to a degree conscious
In dictionary definitions, sentience is defined as “able to experience feelings,” “responsive to or conscious of sense impressions,” and “capable of feeling things through physical senses.” Sentient beings experience wanted emotions like happiness, joy, and gratitude, and unwanted emotions in the form of pain
many animals are sentient

umm, humans are banned according to skybot
We need to go hardcore kingdoms
at least the latin word is
oop
Sometimes the bot ends up catching harmless uses of words or terms that are often used in derogatory ways in online conversations. Just stick with "human" for now 
Okkkkk
i bet the bot wouldnt like the term for humans before sapiens very much either 
Ok folks
So kingdom, brightness, then other stuff
I think you can categorize plants in its own kingdom
and fungi has to have its own kingdom
Yes... there r 3 kingdoms in sky animals plants and fungi
Thats why they r kingdoms
After this we devide light into transparent and opaque and darkness into dark and corrupted
so I just noticed this. If you hear closely, you can hear heartbeats in isle
And another place you can hear heartbeats is stormlock 
Yesyesyes
And also the isle elder is the only one that really tells you to go to eden, the rest are just minding their own business and snatching your light sometimes 
Ok so folks its Kingdom, Brightness, and light divides into opaque and transparent and darkness divides into dark and corrupted..... good?
Great
Imma sneep now bye guys
Hey @hushed steeple, did you get enough sneep snorp today? 
so that’s why rejecting voyager doesn’t like daleth, they want people to go to eden
"Fly! You fools!", confused skykids continues to run through all the realms
Hey @hushed steeple, did you get enough sneep snorp today?
@pastel brook sorry skybot i am now
i don’t agree with corrupted
it presupposes that some dark creatures were once light
Pls could u guys do other topics while im sneeping? Like the heartbeat thing.... thx
Plz...
I would hate to miss out on all the classification stuff
I argue corrupted is subjective
Noooooooo
ok ok
same, it shouldn’t be used as a classifier

pyre, lore chat will discuss what it pleases
as long as it is lore and sky, it can be here
Plz..... another topic.....
I wanna get a say in this but if it moves on....
temperature is subjective, so we have the kelvin scale
You can check back on this later, Pyre. Right now you need to sneep.
Ok then bye
Bye 
The world of Sky is probably really cold most of the time. (Maybe that’s why they have candles absolutely everywhere
)
additionally, i feel translucency isn’t universal enough to be used for all three alignments
it should be under « other »
[Brightness]
[Some method to split animals from plants]
[Flight]
[Other; appendages, translucency, etc.,]
you can do endo vs exo( vs hydrostatic)? krills definite would be exo(i think)
Let me take DNA samples, TGC. Let me separate these creatures based on ✨science✨
lore chat will invent a device to go into the game world just to take dna samples huh
we’re gonna have to rely on observation, sadly 
it all in the vault, probably. what if the scholars in the vault actually reanimated the spirits of the mantas, then something terrible happened when they tried it on the dark creatures
But more on topic, animals and plants are divided by kingdom in real life. I believe the technical definition involves plants usually photosynthesizing and animals usually being able to move on their own but science is weird and coral is an animal so
the human capability to categorize is shaky at best
i mean, we can assume that the grass and such is a human’s definition of a plant considering it’s green, implying chlorophyll
Red pandas are an excellent example of this. When you don’t have DNA samples to work from (and in red pandas’ case, even when you do) it’s really easy to get a classification wrong
then you have the portuguese man o' war.. how do you even..
I wonder what dark plants feed off of, since they clearly don’t photosynthesize. I might go look into moss and cave plants in a minute to get a vague idea
let’s do our best
as i say, this is a game with flying pyromaniac children in the clouds reviving ancient gods
we’ll make as much sense as possible from a game like that 
we have to look at it from the perspective of sky, I mean one of the most definite category is flight, it is either you fly or you don't, there is nothing in-between
Gliding w/o flapping wings is kind of in between but isn’t really a thing in Sky so I digress
Re: flying squirrels do not fly
we do flap
just not like regular flying creatures
heck we don’t even have wings per se, we have capes
I know, that’s why I’m saying it’s not really relevant in the world of Sky
I would argue we are inbetween. Birds fly indeffinately. Krill float indefinitely. Kids do not. And then the twins just jump big.
Skids are strange beings with their flight physics
Back onto dark plants’ food: the size and shape of the plants implies photosynthesis, or at least genetic roots in such a thing, though the shape of the leaves could be used nowadays in order to collect carbon (which is used to ‘build’ the plant). Basically what I’m saying is dark plants probably used to photosynthesize, but they adapted to live in the dark and probably get most of their nutrients from water now.
david attenborough voice
and here we see the rare jumping elder. they can be found in—
: OI WHAT ARE YOU DOIN STALKING US
but how do they grow in the prescence of perpertual sunlight with no water around?
like the prairies bells
I don’t know man I just work here
But actually, that isn’t something I considered. The sunlight probably hinders their growth but isn’t deadly (I say based on my real life plants that do not like sunlight). I don’t know as far as water, though…
I mean techncally since sky is literally in the clouds they can catch water vapor from the atmosphere likke fog nets/harps
a thonk: what if they do eat light, and in the dark places we see them in they’ve already eaten all the light around them ?
yeah I am just going to go with that
What if the shape serves a completely different purpose from gathering sunlight? For example, if the plants have a symbiotic relationship with something that likes to hide, maybe the leaves act as shelter for an animal known to bury light
That sounds very Sky-science-y by which I mean makes complete sense in the game. Though, how would they continue to get nutrients?

OOO I JUST GOT A BRAINCELL MOMENT
And Null, the shape would probably evolve before a symbiotic relationship, but that’s definitely possible
they suck it from the ground !
we even see in dark plants that there’s bits of light travelling from the base to the tips, meaning their root system goes deep enough to suck light from the ground
speaking of roots, they might be so prolific that it can explain why plants regrow so quickly
That sounds very Sky-science-y by which I mean makes complete sense in the game. Though, how would they continue to get nutrients?
I assume their nutrient is light, so they siphon it up through the stems, maybe this is why the prairies prayer bells were drained of coloration?
wait brick just said what i said
That makes sense, especially since Sky is a bunch of floating islands and so if their roots reach down below then boom, infinite light food
o no im sorry skybot
what happened
i said a thing and it was censored
ah
Also weird thing: we know that mantas can get stuck in the plants. What if plants don't eat manta, but rather hide them from Krill and rain? The only reason mantas got stuck in the forest was the stress they were under when they last slipped under to hide (blame ancestors)
and it could also explain why the manta we free isn’t dead yet, the roots haven’t properly gotten to it so we’re just burning the leaves/mouth that holds it there
I definitely don’t think the plants eat the mantas. If they did, like the Venus fly trap, the plants would literally commit self die every time we landed on them. It makes sense if the mantas are looking for shelter and just get stuck
RIP lambda
arguably we aren’t creatures of light, so we might not trigger the plants to commit self die
And if the plants ate light, why would they move away from our candles?
can you elaborate?
I wonder if they could also be turning off, like carnivorous plants often do
Venus fly traps commit self die if anything touches them
what is self die?
You die, but you do it by your own hand, because I won’t say the actual word because ✨trauma✨
Carnivorous plants often grow feeding heads or tubes or whatever and consume whatever goes in... To a point. Once they eat enough, their once deadly feeding body kinda stops
perhaps they feed on light on small quantities, but, when exposed to a higher amount of light than what they can handle (like us shoving a candle on them), they wilt
do you think the leaves of dark plants secrete a liquid that is adhesive to light, but the secreted liquid is non-adhesive and partially low viscosity for anything else? this would be useful from an evolutionary standpoint to filter their food?
hence mantas get stuck
Sorry to be off topic, but do we have a doc for Season of Prophecy theories? I thought someone mentioned it a while ago but I couldn’t find it in the pins. I just finished the earth trial and really want to know what other people think of the mural 
Surely you didn't propheSEE this one coming 
@trim kraken there’s a theory document in the pins, with a section for theories about prophecy. however no one has added to it yet
Gotcha, thank you! Haha hopefully we’ll fill it in 😁
we're still waiting for the mural to be complete and for beta spoilers to not be spoilers anymore
... That "and" concerns me

Something is in the center of that fire challenge.
I know it.
And I place a one heart bet that it's not a wl
Lol I can’t wait
I'm getting an overflowing temptation to watch the fire trial 
Wait... Someone able to justify opening Sky, how many quests are left this season?
Only two, if the last hidden node in the quest giver constellation is definitely a heart and not something strange and sneaky
what are we doing
definitely not getting obsessed over the next seasonal stuff 
https://www.instagram.com/p/CGZ1pHeJRfm/?igshid=1a40b9jvr2xvk i just found that someone made it to top of vault in eden social space
Niice, that seem closer than what I reached
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Do we know exactly what the elders are? They seem like they're the "gods" of their culture, but at the same time they also seem different from that in a sense
We know they are the stars that fell in the opening cutscene. We also know they are outside time and space at the moment
And that they are associated with but are not at their temples
imprints arent stars
If you want more than theory, expect a lot of shrugs
ThEn WhY Do We TaKE ThEM InTO oRbIT
they’re imprints of the child of light
not only stars go to orbit
Whos the child of light again-
They are imprints of a singular child, but also the light of a plural fallen
the child of light is the child of light
We don't know. Many of us think the prince cause the prince is associated with elders but also smol and also has never been seen in game yet confirmed to "kind of" exist
Hmm

SHUSH BETA PLAYER
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Oki so if I understand right
Imprints of light are remnants or possibly memory fragments from the child of light who is possibly the prince of the kingdom of sky.
Taking the imprints into orbit serves a specific purpose we aren't quite aware of yet
It also seems to make the eden statues into very shiny fly bois. We don't have any solid answers about the statues either.
Oooo okay I'm starting to theorize
one of us
have you read the moff doc peachy ?
I skimmed the important parts but I got busy, when I tried coming back to read it it was buried under everyone else's messages, and I didn't get to download it 🥲
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
it’s only about 700 words, shouldn’t be that hard to finish ^^
I see
alright. if you give imprints to the statues, they become shiny children who join the stars at the end. so thats what i get the impression of
im not sure but i take it that shiny children who join the stars are literal children of star/light, but fueled by imprints? weird
or they are literal stars
idk where to ask this but here so does anyone have any maps of like, all of sky? i know there’s probably not any official one but ye
there are concepts
map
Hey chrisis is that a rupels vulture?
so I have been thinking about the masks for the current season
as we know the masks are animal masks from creatures that at one point where somewhere in the sky world
my main question is how big was the spider?
and and and was it a light or dark creature
looks like I might have some art to draw sometime
Can we talk about this?!
Hm. The ancestors were light creatures, so I don’t imagine that they would make a dark creature as a mask, but large spiders and light are not friends
And what in the world could be in that
I should not talk about that since I looked at all the spoilers and know exactly what it is
Could it be...
The Darkness ?
we better get some wax outa that thing
Is this a new texture bug or a new details of how pots used to be once upon a time?
#screenshots-and-videos message
yeah I was wondering about that
based on the current pattern, each trial should have checkpoints
a stupid theory but whatever
inside of that ball rests the king
or prince I don't judge
hey bricky -if your here- do you mind asking whenever a dev is around, how big the spider that the mask based on and if it's a light or dark creature?
or anyone that might be around
noted
I just have a need to know
The spider could've been a reference to concept Wasteland Elder
He was a spider at some point
I'm sorry what
A very scary one indeed 
send pic
@hushed steeple Where is that?
Its the prophecy trailer
The voice of @hushed steeple is a whisper that echoes through the ages. May we meet again in the Eye of Eden!
i'm sorry i'm too lazy to find a picture
Ooh!
@pastel brook 
alright what folder is it in?
I think it's in the 7 Days of Sky
do not fear, koma's here
oh
oh god
what in eden
Ah yes
Child friendly
Thank you Koma
np
Thats the wasteland elder!?
yeah
Concept sky was in the 13+ area 
Wholesome elder, would wear his hair
And could be considered a horror game
the wasteland was supposed to be an abandoned city
Isnt that everything in sky?
thats why it has computers and stuff on it
I'll just stick with the current wasteland elder thanks
What made him like that?
I just thought about that the elders created the light creatures
Like you see it in the praire cutscene
The elder creats a butterfly out of fire

That makes me wonder where mantas come from...
There is a theory that creatures also reborn and evolve
Butterfly, bird, baby manta, normal manta etc
I want to see the krill's eden
According to concepts that's what happens
Light creatures go to orbit and get reborn as a bigger and stronger light creatures
them why aren't we bigger?
I don't think we're at that level yet since we can still die to rocks
Which rocks
The red that steal our light
Or the normal ones that crashes with us at 300 mph speed
both
Both steal our light and winged light

where do our light go after it has been knocked out and we didn't pick it up in time?
i think this is the dividing line between game mechanics and lore
but consequentially, if you consider some parts of game mechanics to be lore, all of it has to be considered
instruments was an internal experiment
I have a feeling the wl you collected it from goes back to its spot? I've noticed if I lose light I see a wl back in its place i collected beforehand
yes, but I would like to know how it get there in terms of lore, it is not like it just magically teleports to its original position, I mean it does but like I want to believe in an interpretation that ties it together
mainly because I have to consider this due to underlying theories that include game mechanics
Oh my theory is the wl is dead and gone and the shiny boi, sensing that it's creation is gone, makes a new one for u to collect
Bc of the slashing
Of the wl
So cuz of the slashing i think the wl is dead...
So shinyboi made a new one
Now I'm just repeating myself
What exactly even are the sky kids anyway? Are they supposed to be living candles or something?
up to you 
[Brightness]
[Some method to split animals from plants]
[Flight]
[Other; appendages, translucency, etc.,]
Lurkers, this is gonna be the new organism classification system of sky.... u might wanna join in for this...
it will be our theory, we don’t have to push it on anyone else
if someone doesn’t care for it, very well
[Brightness]
[Some method to split animals from plants]
[Flight]
[Other; appendages, translucency, etc.,]
@lethal stump bricky.... the plant thingie is called kingdom and they have animals plants and fungi plus it should go above brightness
it will be our theory, we don’t have to push it on anyone else
@lethal stump oh yes definitely
Kingdom as in kingdom phylum and stuff
I forgot the whole taxonomical hierarchy
a) no need to ping
b) considering this is an entirely different world, i’m approaching it by the way the world works, and brightness/alignment takes precedence
c) then we have no need to ask people who might not care to have input
Ok i get c and lets go with b then
Brightness, kingdom, here is prob where class comes in...
so if I am understanding correctly, the hierarchy is in the order of common attribute/characteristics
Oh wait
Flight is prob unnecessary too cuz all light creatures fly and krill can prob only fly cuz they consume light
No wait thats not it

Krill prob have a different means of flight thelan light creatures cuz they dont use flight energy cuz they r dark creatures
oh, I thought we are classifying all fauna/flora in sky, not just those pertaining to light?
Oh yes we r thinking abt wut comes after hrighness and kingdom and bricky said flight
We r classifying all organisms
I think flight is a good indicator, because it separates at the genus level, then succeeding classification would be interspecies differences like manta appendages and variations
No but that kinda flight comes after transparency
[Brightness]
[Some method to split animals from plants]
[Flight]
[Other; appendages, translucency, etc.,]
so do you agree with this, Lamb ?
ie. all crabs(unless there is a counterexample) can not fly
yeah brick, it is pretty good, just need to figure out the second classifier
Brick.... its called kingdom... the method to split plants from animals is kingdom...
So I've noticed through every single memory from the elders alongside the new Season of Prophecy spirits, it occurs to me that there was some war or something they were preparing for. Can someone help me on this?
yes but we need to figure out what separates plants from animals in sky
And fungi too
also, elders ? there’s no mention of the elders aside from the isle elder in SoP
Wut?
im replying to Kioshi
Oh
Lmao
Yes, but I'm trying to bring out my question. You see, the elder cutscenes hint to something. The wasteland elder cutscene shows him practicing his spear jabbing, forest Elder with her hammer and "stones", and daylight prarie with his butterflies, which is a prime source of light. After looking at it multiple times, something tells me that that the were preparing for something, for some battle or something more.
the stones create a power diamond
Guys...
I don't know if you get what I'm trying to ask, but there it is.
Yes ok
im no authority on lore
@lethal stump wut?
Oh... that authority
Ok now
re: pyre
yeah there isn't really a definite way to separate animals from plants/fungi because we have no idea their phylogeny and structural composition other than their current appearance, I say we consult bluespirit on this
i concur lambda
we should relay this to her and have her look it over before we move on
Plants do photosynthesis,animals move, and fungi r the rest when it comes to sky
Oh ok bluspirit lets send it to her
@mortal viper oi blue what are your thoughts
[Brightness]
[Kingdom]
[Flight]
[Other; appendages, translucency, etc.,]
the difference in phylogeny between plants and animals comes down basically to plants developing chloroplasts and sustaining photosynthesis meant they had no need to be mobile as they make their own food and retrieve energy/nutrients I think, don't quote me on that, i have absolutely no knwoledge in biology
I rlly dont think flight is a thing...
Oh and fungi lambda fungi
fungi is closer to animals than plants I think
I am by no means an expert on this
Yep that's true
mushrooms being closer to me than a flower is creepy ngl
whoah
Yes, but I'm trying to bring out my question. You see, the elder cutscenes hint to something. The wasteland elder cutscene shows him practicing his spear jabbing, forest Elder with her hammer and "stones", and daylight prarie with his butterflies, which is a prime source of light. After looking at it multiple times, something tells me that that the were preparing for something, for some battle or something more.
@cobalt garnet sorry for the ping, but i thought this was really interesting. What if the elders were each harnessing different light sources? Since either light or darkness seem to power everything in Sky, they must have been utilizing this. (Unless they’re evil/prefer darkness) there’s also (im not sure if this is canon) stories about how the krill used to be trapped/chained, but they broke free and escaped, why else would they be hostile? Because they are bitter about something but w h a t exactly
That’s what i thought, but it’s a very interesting concept
I just want to know why they want to attack on sight, it would honestly make more sense if they simply attacked and then stole your light
oi blue what are your thoughs
Hum? What's this?
I mean there are plants that grow on other plants that are not strictly parasitic, epiphytes in rainforests and iti s another whole different story if they are parasitic.. plants are well interesting
oh yay blue is here
I have been sumoned but I don't understant for what
oh we are building a classification system for fauna and flora like the taxonomy in real life
and we are not sure how to separate plants from animals and fungi
the one brick sent is our low-effort rudimentary attempt
There’s statues of a man
yes, @clear lynx it’s the king
well, if we go by earth rules:
- plants make photosynthesis (meaning they usualy don't need to eat other beings for nutrients) and cannot move on their own, they have a cellular wall made of lignin and that's mostly it
- fungi DO NOT make photosynthesis, they actualy secrete substances outside of their cells that digest what's around them (hence they being mostly decompositors), they also have cellular wall, but theirs is made of quitine (same substance you find in insects that make them crunchy), and they also can't move on their own
- animals DO NOT make photosynthesis (let's ignore the weird sea slug that steal it's abilities from plants and algae) so they need to eat and their cells do not have cellular walls. animals are usualy able to move on their own, but not aways.
the first one who dares to mention carnivorous plants get yeeted to orbit
slowly closes mouth
yes, @clear lynx it’s the king
@lethal stump far as I was investigating, he’s name it’s alef
And... why the statues are only on GW and Eden?
well, there’s king propaganda all over the place
Why the Forrest headpice seems like the king eye?
his emblem/symbol is everywhere
@lethal stump not exactly
devs said so, though
Rlly?
have you read the canon lore doc ?
megabird is a more godlike figure
Mega bird it’s dead.
that's all we know
what makes you think Megabird is dead ?
is she? that's new to me
Megabird is not an elder
I thought king was the corrupted one
it doesn’t specify corrupted, only beyond saving
Hm...
also
Are we sons of alef?
the king plays an active role in the story of sky but maybe not in the way you may think
he's not there in the same way as the elders you see in the cutscenes
he is an important figure in the current lore of sky
he's just not there the same way as the spirits you see in the individual realms are
there are also subtle designs and motifs referencing the king in the world too. iirc some of the latticework in valley/dusk temple has a design pattern reminiscent of the kings head
could be worth discussing some of the meanings the diamond shapes may have and maybe what connections that symbolizes
we could be, up to you
yes
And in that story
It says “return the stars back home my son”
Or
Something like that
But darkness came, and the stars fell...
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
A long time has passed. Now, I call to you.
Wake up, child. Bring our lost stars home.```
We are childs of light meaning that light is out father
OMG YOU ARE SO HELPFUL I LOVE THIS
you don’t need commands
I read something about an apocalypse
are you on mobile or computer ?
Mobile, may that’s why
Darkness apocalypse
And a oracle
Is that up to something?
Whats the source of darkness?
swipe left, you’ll see this
:0
what did you read, Captain ?

krill corruption?

we don't know
we don’t know what they are, only that they’re dark creatures
krill are entirely a mystery
They are light devour
Sorry my English it’s not the best, m tryin my best
Krills eat and consumes light
it's ok dear
and yes it apears to be so
Ok
Then
Darkness it’s not actually coming from krills
Darkness consumes light and whit that produces krill
Kinda like “light doesn’t exist whit out darkness” and the same for darkness
There’s a elder temple destroyed at the second place in GW
That’s makes me think
It’s the actual elder of GW the same as wen darkness was no there?
Because at GW there’s a TON of statues of king
And as I been seein in the murals, GW did built 5 boats or arks to scape from the darkness
3 of them were citadels and 2 where militar boats
Were*
There’s a statue of king in forgotten ark
Same as the militar boat in the shipyard at GW
There’s a destroyed ark at eye of Eden.
And little boats, (kinda the emergency evac ones) at the entrance of Eden.
what murals ?
Well, an important hint is probably at the orange light mural in Cave of Prophecies
Forgotten ark ones, new cave, and also the rock at island
This is just a image TGC did publish while ago.
That's concepts
It can just be an idea btw
I know
But I like the concept
All murals have 3 huge citadel arks feein away from GW
So, at the beginning of the game
Says that all 6 realms found the Eden no?
Im I wrong?
found the eden ? i don’t believe so
it doesn’t say anything like that
But darkness came, and the stars fell...
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
A long time has passed. Now, I call to you.
Wake up, child. Bring our lost stars home.```
as that line is said, the temples appear, not only eden
they founded the whole kingdom not merely eden
They made Eden as kind of a safe place from darkness no?
maybe
i cant confirm nor deny that
If that’s a yes
there’s no yes or no’s in sky lore
Can we talk about how the skykids have heartbeats?
Did the fallen stars tried to return Eden whit the arks?
perhaps
And failed in the atemp
although we do see a star fall to eden
which to me says that they could access it easily
and also considering the eden castle, i think it’s where the eden elder (prince/king) lived
MAy be the eye of Eden was the entrance to that sanctuary
But darkness did corrupt the eye.
Cuz darkness is all around vault. But not inside of it thanks to the warrior elder.
what, that sea slug is the literal definition of you are what you eat
it’s assumed that’s the case, yes
If that’s the case
King it’s corrupted.
And once a time wing was the leader of GW
And the ark at Eden
Was were king was
time wing ?
Theres one at the very eye of Eden
At leasy parts of it
Damn idk how to say parts of boats
Lemme go for a traductor
There’s a HUGE front part at the part where rocks non stop falling
Also a mast
You got a photo?
I did go today to confirm this, but no foto, I will go tomorrow and take all pics
At reset
I’ll @ u all
please don’t
also there’s no boat in stormlock, it’s actually part of a statue that falls off
it’s a common misconception that it’s a boat
what, that sea slug is the literal definition of you are what you eat
@hushed steeple let us not go down the rabit hole of exceptions in biology
The mast it’s on the right
U see that there’s a little torch under a pice of floor?
At that part
yes bluespirit, i shall not venture into the rabiit hole
ye can call me blue, lambda
Why wen we die at Eden we reborn
And get to go Eden
But if not being at Eden, no reborn at all
I thing there’s something werid we all missing about eye of Eden.
And I still can’t figúrate what it is.
Cuz if the eye take us to a sanctuary in the clouds
The eye isn’t darkness at all.
Can we talk about how the skykids have heartbeats?
@fallen epoch HM.
It might be the little blue spirit thing inside of us.
Hold on
A
As the memories of spirits we see
We indeed are spirits too wen we die.
But our spirits got rebirth at Eden whit a brand new bodie.
Well I think so.
Hey @spice condor, it looks like you shared an invite link in a public channel. Sky invites are single use and it's best to share them through DMs
Lol
helloooooo dead lore chat

lore chat is always dead,when it's active it's just a little less dead
gather ‘round the campfire children, there was once a time when lore chat was always moving...
maybe eden is the point of ascension thats why we got called to there as well as other creatures
Is the water mask a goat or some type of old turtle?
most likely a turtle, but some people call it a penguin as well!
Old turtle
bearded turtle 
GW mask it’s a whale
Hi lore peeps
First of all i 2ould like to say the statues in eden r skids or summin similar, not skid.ver.1.0 cuz when the shells crack they look like us
Second i have a huge theory and bricky this wont include the spoiler
Now...

When the spirits all died in the trials shiny boi came along and did it all that much we know.... so i was thinking shinyboi is prob got past the trials and has all the wisdoms and now has emense power, and he is like king arthur and the prophets believe he is fit to rule the kingdom... so he travels the realms and leaves imprints
everywhere like mini landmarks... which r the wl things so... then he gets coronated and becomes the king and then gets corrupted... the king is now a monster but there still is a part of him that is kind and he destroys himself and that kills him and destroyed eden... now the prince or king is huddled up in orbit and in self exile regretting everything he did... he is the shinyboi that we hug and he opens up the road to Ascension for the brave souls that have died saving the statues in eden
No wait the imprints arent landmarks.... i think... they r there to bring light to the daroest corners of sky prob...
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@lethal stump wut? I am? how? do u want me to delete it? Cuz i could do that if this is somehow spoilery....
That thing u showed me is the only spoiler i know right now and it was after i made this theory
Ok
Yes!!!
I have a theory of the king killing the prophets after they give the prophecy since in the beginning when you first get the game it talks about a prophecy and how they didn’t listen to it so that’s why their demise happened. It’s just speculation but it could be possible I’ll have to look for more context clues later if I can
I’m sure it’ll be fine! ..... Right?
Ooooh maybe the prophets stopped giving trial passers powers outside the trials after the shinyboi messed everything up and now they think its too dangerous
Maybe they stopped giving the power because they knew the king would most likely abuse the power or had abused the power of the trials
Prob had abused cuz the king is in the past cuz we dont see him alive in sky only propaganda
omg that’s such a cool idea!
Right?
I feel like it’s a possible theory but it would be really fun to explore with it
there’s a theory document that maybe you could add it to!
I probably could but I’m a bit scared to lol
don’t be, you’ve met the single requirement to add to it
Yeah I’m probably not going to add it to the document since I really don’t a lot of info on it and I’d like to snoop around to see if it’s possible to find more evidence for the theory
hm
im staring at the concept poster in office
do y’all think itd be worth it to try and figure out what it says ? incase there’s lore hints ? or nah
Can you send a screenshot?
Wuts a gremlin?
google it, pyre
lol

from the pins, CAFA game art 2018
i think this might be the office poster? it follows the time of day labelling but it's show differently
the boards are in chinese but english translations are put in the descriptions
What are the elders names?
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
Oo
Okay guys, I post some texts in the doc about CN server lore. Sorry for no en version
I will put more information in the future
King it’s resh! And prince alef!
I NEVER SAW THAT
MY THING NOW MAKES SENSE OMGGGGGGGGGG
A
the fact that the doc says the descendant begins in isle of dawn hints it follows more closely the light awaits lore
Agree.
God I was going to ask where to start reading up on Lore, but I'm living with all the info in the pins

Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
[credits to bricko]
this would help too :))
Aaaa thank you!!
happy theorising! 
Someone I know made the connection that the spider mask from prophecy looks like a symbol for the Egyptian Spider God. Has anyone made any connections with any other Egyptian Gods?
Yeah. But what about the other three?
Someone I know made the connection that the spider mask from prophecy looks like a symbol for the Egyptian Spider God. Has anyone made any connections with any other Egyptian Gods?
@dull fox spider god? U sure it isnt the scarab god?
There is no turtle god
There is a lion god but sop's lion is from asia
/maybe? Idk
Heavy atlab influences
Oh yeah the sop spider isnt the web weaving type... more like a tarantula
Yeah
And I heard something about a water dragon existing in mythology which to me makes a little more sense than it being a turtle with a beard
So is Light Awaits The beta name?
Plus the Egyptian lion goddess of carnage and stuff is a female...
Yeah. I’ve always thought it was a dragon because Chinese dragons have doglike features like a nose and such
So is Light Awaits The beta name?
@uncut root yea... i think the world was more beautiful but the controls sucked i hear
The nose of an asian dragon is a pig's and its horns r deer horns... thing is... the asian dragon is a chimera of sorts
Thats prob a land turtle... we r looking for a loggerhead or maybe a kemps riddley
Ok folks brb
I’m still thinking water dragon
reika confirmed the turtle is waterbased
also i searched for turtles with a beard and
Very cute
dam the only instances of turtles having beards
Santa turtle
Nasty
would the beard just be for design points then 
Very cute
@dull fox look up peninsula cooter and lets hear u say that of a seaturtle ever again...
I don’t think TGC adds things just for design
Luckily I can’t google things so I won’t
on the anubis mask
I don’t think TGC adds things just for design
@dull fox let me introduce u to the circular shadows of mantas
That’s because they don’t have raytracing
the halo was pretty much a design thing
@solar relic wut???!!!
That’s because they don’t have raytracing
@dull fox yes
lead artist yui tanabe came up with the initial design for anubis mask and then ash was like "yo let's add a halo to it" and everyone agreed
I thought the halo was emphasizing the qg's connection to megan like most prophets
lead artist yui tanabe came up with the initial design for anubis mask and then ash was like "yo let's add a halo to it" and everyone agreed
@solar relic this place is called lore chat for a reason.... lets make an in universe explanation
up to you broski
I think it’s to emphasize the importance of the prophet who wore that one
They are in the memories but were probably the one who taught the others
i think of it as a visual emphasis for the guide being a guide
Yeah. Enlightenment symbolized
that's one take yes
Ye
But why a halo? Why not a pendant or a tiara?
my answer is due to game design lol
But this is lore there has to be a lore explanation
My take is connection to megan and mimicking the real halos around spirits n stuff
yeah that's why i'm not saying it
hmmm
yeah it might signify a blessing on the guide given by megan
See... the qg is not one of the original teachers at the prophecy school so most likely he joined when the prophets were reopening the school for skids, so maybe this second generation of spirits thought that a halo was a sign of holiness.... like the cross
I thought that this whole thing was about how people got to the island of sky? What’s this about a prophet school?
how many prophecies would a prophet prophesize if a prophet could prophesize prophecies?
/pfffft sky bot bruh
/i feeel like the be in a school, they learn about patience and resilience and stuff
The prophets I think are trying to train them to help with the stuff they’ll have to do on the island. I think the prophets heard about what happened to the previous inhabitants (the elders, a much larger group of people in stature than the spirits who inhabit it) and were trying to prepare the colonists for the things that are going on there
/oooh maybe
/althooo
/prophet may refer to the biblical version of the word, the one who teaches back what god said (or sth)
help im stuck writing prophecies
I’ll help you skybot
/good luck skybot
So, I came across the first water mural in cave with rain and wondered if the cave is between isle and forest because even the barrier to cave has the forest constellation.
Also the cave in prarie has forest constellation barrier.
Or is it something developers overlooked.
/i saaaay, thats just something to prevent you to advancing too quickly
Resh it’s light and alef darkness?
/uh, not really, but imo its the other way around
/we have like 0 to nothing info about these 2
Yup
I thought that this whole thing was about how people got to the island of sky? What’s this about a prophet school?
@dull fox prob not.... its prob like an agent academy/sunday school..... after all, ppl die in the trials to prepare for wut? Yawning and hide and seek? No... they had a harder mission
Idk wut the harder mission was tho... my guess is the trials were like the sword of arthur and the guy to do the trials became the king...
Ah yes. Except that it says in the release thing in news that it’s about the origin of the villagers in Sky.
I don’t think that the villagers themselves died doing the trials because skykids are different then the villagers. We can fly. We are powered by flames. The water trial kills us because the water puts out our flames. Villagers probably just get a little bit of hypothermia when they fell into the water which would’ve been the reason you don’t want to do that.
Who are the elders?
I believe that the elders are the original inhabitants of the world of Sky. Others will probably disagree, but I think that there were two different peoples who populated the world of sky. The elders and their species, a group of very large, very powerful people who harnessed light energy and fought a war which eradicated themselves, and the spirits we encounter regularly, who are a group of colonists who came after the elders species had destroyed itself. They populated the world of sky until some unknown catastrophe caused them to die out too.
Krill are actually whales
Actually
No
I said what I said
Krill are found in Wasteland and Eden
Whales have 2 varieties: the light whales; found in Forest’s Secret Area, Sanctuary, and Orbit, where as there is a single dark whale found in the area prior to Wasteland
Now in sanctuary is there is a progression with completing the quest
Babi Mantas->Big Boi Mantas-> Super Manta->WHITE WHALE CALL ME AHAB
This could indicate that a whale is a rare progression of the manta
Hence why there aren’t too many in the world of sky
Actually there’s about 4 many but I’m not counting :3c
dark whale in a corrupted zone? Heading further into the golden wasteland? Maybe it’s going there to BECOME A KRILL
White Whales ONLY appear in places of high natural light energy like orbit or Sanctuary an area that is “An Escape From Civilisation”
The only dark whale is EVIL AND GONNA BECOME A KRILL TO EAT OUR LIIIIGHT OoooOooOooo
the big creature in sanctuary is an elder manta actually
then again, there is this in the concept art as well

Just in the concept art you posted there’s clearly a growth cycle
But the whales concept art feels like
An alternative evolution line
ahh i understand now
I think the Whales were mantas negatively effected by whatever the EVENT was
Since the Dark Whales themselves only appear in areas effected by it

ah so what you're saying is that the whales are "defected" manta evolutions while krill are corrupted whales, so dark whales?
Exactly!
Would explain the ratio of the papa mantas to whales
Also mantas like the light right?
Would pre cataclysm Eden have been light central
?
for now i've thought of eden as where many light creatures were sent to die in order to power the big eden diamond
don’t light deficient creatures in sky seek other sources of light - skykid or otherwise?
What if the krill are light drained Whales/Papa Mantas
motd says krills are hungry for light so that is possible
well specifically for your light, skid light
It’s all connected 
There was also the manta (rest in peace lil guy) at the first encounter of he
GW
yes
I gotta
I gotta check out their bones
If they have any sort of similar bone structure to krill then that would be a pretty solid indicator
But that’s just a theory
which bones are you talking about?
my friend blue has some krill anatomy analysis here but the thing is, krill are intangible since they can pass through walls and the ground so they probably don't have bones
Hmm
I was thinking of comparing the bones found in forest and vault to krill anatomy
Please sir my brain is but a hamster wheel and I’m all out of feed
You a new face?
the bones in forest are of a whale
Whichhhhh
the ones by that broken building
Yep
in the area before the temple
No, i think they are a different species
Take a peek 
dark creatures aren't confirmed to be natural though
ark murals imply they could have been corrupted
Hm
though it really depends on your interpretation lol

light creatures are confirmed to be naturally-occurring, but dark creatures are uncertain
Annnnd
If you would recall my words from 5 am Jojo
The first encounters we the sky kids have with krills and dark whales are in areas effected by the EVENT
Forrest Golden Wasteland Eden
krills and dark whales? or are they the same to you
Hard to brain but yes. I think that whales are definitely a defector of the elder mantas
so the other realms aren't affected by the 'event'? (whatever it is)
And the krills miiiight be an even more corrupted whale that has no light and that is why whales can drain your light but krills will actively search for light to eat
Obviously all of sky civilization was effected by the cataclysm but Eden GW Forest are like
Ground zero?
It be like the sky equivalent of Chernobyl’s radiation
Does that make sense? my brain is a lil fried rn 
yeah, i can understand
interesting theory
though i would say we only see one 'defected' whale throughout the game, if there were more i think we'd see them all together
Hmm true
Going through the beta Imgur albums was such a treat, I love this game even more than before 
Did you see any whales
Just the ones we've already seen 
Hi lore peeps this phenomenon has been adressed many times before in lore chat
not everyone's been here before though
Most sky creatures possess the ability to phase thru walls at will... this means that they can turn intangible and back at will. This includes the krill... even if sky creatures have bones they can still phase thru things cuz that's how the whole thing works
/boats can clip through wall
Mantas
/it not a creature
Crabs
Mantas on their way to kidnap me in Prairie
/do butterflies clip?
