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livid valley
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a publisher then

junior robin
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OohpPopcorn

thin dirge
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Mehhhh, I feel sneepy tooo

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Imma go-

hushed steeple
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Tencent and Netease are chinese giants that basically proxy external services, I don't know how to explain it, you can think of them as publishers yeah

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that said, they basically can control the majority of features of the proxied service within mainland

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MC in mainland is quite different than International

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anyways this is getting off topic

solar relic
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this server is targeted at the global version so it may be confusing to bring in netease server content

hushed steeple
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I think Netease wouldn't bother to change the story, rather I think they do not took the "ambiguious storyline that faciliate projections of intepretation" idea as seriously because they are in it for the ||money||, so you get to see major details revealed in notes tlike this

stone rivet
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NetEase is responsible for IDV

hushed steeple
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ok back to lore

delicate coral
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I was looking through the tomcepts and found that something looks kinda familiar for anyone who watched the prophecy reveal trailer

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It should be interesting to see if the resemblance is anything more than just looking similar

solar relic
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oh that big sphere at the end right

delicate coral
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yeah

solar relic
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just looking at it makes me scared

gilded fossil
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/it looks like it sucking things in??

willow shoal
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||With Sky, we are looking to make an intriguing, ever-expanding world above the clouds, that is filled with light and darkness. As a ‘Descendant,’ your goal is to collaborate with other players to unearth the buried mysteries in the kingdom. Only by working together can you progress in the world. Using the power of light and candles, you and others need to spread light across the kingdom as you encounter a cast of characters and creatures who may be able to help you along the way.|| ——thatgamecompany November 16, 2017

hushed steeple
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oh yeah it is on the blog right

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I read it yesterday

willow shoal
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we are not skykids but “Descendants “

hushed steeple
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I think it came out when sky was still Light Awaits, so I thnik we play as 'Descendant' in Light Awaits?

wintry gull
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i’m new to the lore of sky, but i was wondering what the king’s symbol is and what the long statues look like? thanks!

hushed steeple
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the story fluctuated alot in Light Awaits I heard

solar relic
wintry gull
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omg thank you so much!! 💗

gilded fossil
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/lorre moff doc yet brown?

willow shoal
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bricks is the king

hushed steeple
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random highres image i found

livid valley
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a clear image of eden pretty rare

inland narwhal
undone harbor
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king looks like that bad guy in disney movies

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he just get defeated
dramatically

hushed steeple
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The map is great

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This is it

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If my map that u guys said looked like an onion were drawn better it would look like this

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Oh and my situation has improved and i dont need us to wait till monday... if anyone cared...

bitter shale
hushed steeple
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To move on with the scientific name thijg we need to decide a few things.....

bitter shale
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sorry pyre-

hushed steeple
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Its ok

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Now comes the important part

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We need to do a series of votes to decide the class of the species

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Ok so mammals r A, birds r B, fish r C, reptiles r D, invertebrates r E, and amphibians r F

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Mantas

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Crabs

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Krill

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Whales

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Jellies

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Butterflies

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Vote plz

bitter shale
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crustacean

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and the uh, jellies

idk what species jellies are

hushed steeple
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Okokok imma fix stuff

lethal stump
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i dont think we can necessarily categorize these creatures the way we do earth ones

undone harbor
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crabs are uhhh
Crustacean

hushed steeple
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My plan is to leave everything as it is from kingdom to family

lethal stump
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let’s start by identifying commonalities and differences among the life forms we see, and from there we can categorize

inland narwhal
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The jellyfish, whales and mantas fly in Sky

hushed steeple
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Wait so we ditch the taxonomical thingies?

lethal stump
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well like blue said
let’s start from scratch

hushed steeple
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Ok then

lethal stump
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i think there are some basic yes/no questions we can create already to make some categories

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can it fly ?

does it attack ?

is it light ?

is it dark ?

is it neutral ?

hushed steeple
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Fly and attack r prob not.... u know.... good ideas

lethal stump
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elaborate ?

hushed steeple
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Like insects and birds both fly but they r in very different categories.... i was thinking making our biggest category brightness

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Light neurtal dark

spring blaze
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i think fly and attack are eligible traits

hushed steeple
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Then we would go pure and symbiosis for the light and pure and corrupted for the dark

lethal stump
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these are the broad strokes rn, pyre

hushed steeple
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Yes

lethal stump
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we’re making big categories, from which we’ll make smaller and smaller ones later

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and as a broad stroke, clarifying if something can/can’t fly is a good idea

hushed steeple
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Oh right srry overextended

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Ok then

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Now that we have answered those...

lethal stump
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we will get to your analogy, the difference between birds and butterflies for example, as we categorize further

hushed steeple
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Ok then

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Wut will be the largest category? The sky equivalent of a kingdom?

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Ish

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I say brightness

lethal stump
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hm
considering the systems in sky, maybe Light, Dark, and Neutral

hushed steeple
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Yes

lethal stump
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A quick run-down would be

Light
Mantas (all types), Butterflies, Jellies, Mushrooms

Dark
Dark Dragons, Crabs, Darkness

Neutral
Whale, Skykids (maybe Elders and Ancestors too ?)

hushed steeple
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Yes

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Now lets divide them more

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Wait the whale is light

lethal stump
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but it harms us

hushed steeple
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I can not believe i am saying this but game mech prob look at its color scheme

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Plus it ascends with us in eden

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Bricky u there?

lethal stump
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im confused, elaborate ?

hushed steeple
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In eden only light creatures ascend to orbit and the whale comes too...

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Ok so there r 2 types of light creatures

lethal stump
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but yet we’re made of both darkness and light and we ascend

hushed steeple
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The ones that r transparent and the ones that r not

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but yet we’re made of both darkness and light and we ascend
@lethal stump oh...

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Hmmm

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But brick the color scheme

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Plus we prob only ascend cuz we r the trigger for Ascension

lethal stump
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the whale isn’t white & yellow

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it’s like a greyish blue and white colour

hushed steeple
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Ok then the whale is neutral

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Ok then

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does the whale harm crabs?

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There r 2 types ofight creatures, the translucent type and the opaque type

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there is actually only one way to test it

lethal stump
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we don’t see the whale interact with other beings, really

hushed steeple
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but we can make it interact

livid valley
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good luck

hushed steeple
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Grab a crab and stick it in front of a whale? It isnt possible... its too far

livid valley
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yep too far

hushed steeple
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Guys.........

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Bacc to naming

lethal stump
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this is important to naming too, pyre

hushed steeple
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So opaque and translucent creatures

lethal stump
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one can never be too thorough with science

hushed steeple
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But... like we agreed that whales r neutral.... and there is no way to test it on crabs...

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Sooooo

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opaque and translucent creatures do we agree

lethal stump
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maybe later on

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but not yet

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i think flight and hostility are above translucency

hushed steeple
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Ok wut now?

lethal stump
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lemme outline how i see it

hushed steeple
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you can do it, you need a friend with piggyback

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can*

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Wut?

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Oh.

lethal stump
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[Brightness]
[Flight]
[Hostility]
[Translucency]
[Other, such as number of appendages & such]

hushed steeple
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you can do it, you need a friend with piggyback
@hushed steeple plz test it out then vid plz

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if you hold a crab while being on a piggyback ride, you won't drop the crab unless you go through a portal

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[Brightness]
[Flight]
[Hostility]
[Translucency]
[Other, such as number of appendages & such]
@lethal stump ok..... but hostility is almost the same as brightness

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ideally you would do this at the end of valley

lethal stump
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dark plants don’t attack you

hushed steeple
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They do...

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and have your friend fly fast enough and you drop the crab on the whale

sturdy moon
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watch out guys,
the dark plant has a knife

hushed steeple
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Ok try it and then come back plz

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Lambda

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I have no friends, also I took a break from the game

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Well dark animals attack light animals or neutral animals and thats canon

lethal stump
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this isn’t only for animals

hushed steeple
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No im sorry dark creatures

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[Brightness]
[Flight]
[Hostility]
[Translucency]
[Other, such as number of appendages & such]
what is this for brick?

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We r revolutionizing sky creature classification

lethal stump
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increasingly precise categories for organizing sky creatures

hushed steeple
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Yes

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Dark creatures try to take light we r just too smart for plants

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Spirits and light creatures all die from dark plants

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hostility is kind of subjective but ok

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And its like the same as brightness almost

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Lets take out hostility...

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That leaves flying

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I mean brightness is ok because it can be an absolute measure, eg. luminosity
but I don't know about hostility

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Yesyes

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Plus if its light its safe and if its dark it isnt

lethal stump
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[Brightness]
[Sentience]
[Flight]
[Translucency]
[Other, such as number of appendages & such]

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how about this

hushed steeple
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No not sentience

lethal stump
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how else are we gonna separate animals from plants ?

hushed steeple
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We r closer to chimpanzees than we r to dolphins sentience just isnt right

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Most animals arent sentient

lethal stump
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they can’t think ?

hushed steeple
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That isnt sentience

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Only humans r sentiment on earth i think

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I think you mean sapience, sentient is just the ability or rather capability to sense/respond to its world

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So the plant thing, i was thinking before we get to brightness we do animals,plants and fungi

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we are self-conscious but all creatures are to a degree conscious

lethal stump
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In dictionary definitions, sentience is defined as “able to experience feelings,” “responsive to or conscious of sense impressions,” and “capable of feeling things through physical senses.” Sentient beings experience wanted emotions like happiness, joy, and gratitude, and unwanted emotions in the form of pain
many animals are sentient

hushed steeple
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Then star wars is weird anyways

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If its that u want

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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umm, humans are banned according to skybot

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We need to go hardcore kingdoms

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at least the latin word is

lethal stump
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oop

hushed steeple
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But only with animals plants and fungi

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Ok so kingdom,brightness,flight, and more

sudden sleet
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Sometimes the bot ends up catching harmless uses of words or terms that are often used in derogatory ways in online conversations. Just stick with "human" for now linkthumbsup

hushed steeple
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Okkkkk

lethal stump
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i bet the bot wouldnt like the term for humans before sapiens very much either SkyLOL

hushed steeple
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Ok folks

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So kingdom, brightness, then other stuff

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I think you can categorize plants in its own kingdom

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and fungi has to have its own kingdom

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Yes... there r 3 kingdoms in sky animals plants and fungi

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Thats why they r kingdoms

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After this we devide light into transparent and opaque and darkness into dark and corrupted

wild crescent
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so I just noticed this. If you hear closely, you can hear heartbeats in isle

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And another place you can hear heartbeats is stormlock pEyes

hushed steeple
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Yesyesyes

wild crescent
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And also the isle elder is the only one that really tells you to go to eden, the rest are just minding their own business and snatching your light sometimes pCry

hushed steeple
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Ok so folks its Kingdom, Brightness, and light divides into opaque and transparent and darkness divides into dark and corrupted..... good?

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Great

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Imma sneep now bye guys

pastel brookBOT
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Hey @hushed steeple, did you get enough sneep snorp today? pThink

hushed steeple
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so that’s why rejecting voyager doesn’t like daleth, they want people to go to eden

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"Fly! You fools!", confused skykids continues to run through all the realms

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Hey @hushed steeple, did you get enough sneep snorp today? pThink
@pastel brook sorry skybot i am now

lethal stump
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i don’t agree with corrupted

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it presupposes that some dark creatures were once light

hushed steeple
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Pls could u guys do other topics while im sneeping? Like the heartbeat thing.... thx

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Plz...

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I would hate to miss out on all the classification stuff

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I argue corrupted is subjective

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Noooooooo

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ok ok

lethal stump
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same, it shouldn’t be used as a classifier

hushed steeple
lethal stump
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pyre, lore chat will discuss what it pleases

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as long as it is lore and sky, it can be here

hushed steeple
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Plz..... another topic.....

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I wanna get a say in this but if it moves on....

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temperature is subjective, so we have the kelvin scale

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You can check back on this later, Pyre. Right now you need to sneep.

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Ok then bye

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Bye TGCBlueHeart

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The world of Sky is probably really cold most of the time. (Maybe that’s why they have candles absolutely everywhere SkyLOL )

lethal stump
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additionally, i feel translucency isn’t universal enough to be used for all three alignments
it should be under « other »

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[Brightness]
[Some method to split animals from plants]
[Flight]
[Other; appendages, translucency, etc.,]

hushed steeple
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you can do endo vs exo( vs hydrostatic)? krills definite would be exo(i think)

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Let me take DNA samples, TGC. Let me separate these creatures based on ✨science✨

lethal stump
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lore chat will invent a device to go into the game world just to take dna samples huh

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we’re gonna have to rely on observation, sadly pCry

hushed steeple
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it all in the vault, probably. what if the scholars in the vault actually reanimated the spirits of the mantas, then something terrible happened when they tried it on the dark creatures

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But more on topic, animals and plants are divided by kingdom in real life. I believe the technical definition involves plants usually photosynthesizing and animals usually being able to move on their own but science is weird and coral is an animal so

lethal stump
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the human capability to categorize is shaky at best

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i mean, we can assume that the grass and such is a human’s definition of a plant considering it’s green, implying chlorophyll

hushed steeple
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Red pandas are an excellent example of this. When you don’t have DNA samples to work from (and in red pandas’ case, even when you do) it’s really easy to get a classification wrong

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then you have the portuguese man o' war.. how do you even..

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I wonder what dark plants feed off of, since they clearly don’t photosynthesize. I might go look into moss and cave plants in a minute to get a vague idea

lethal stump
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let’s do our best
as i say, this is a game with flying pyromaniac children in the clouds reviving ancient gods
we’ll make as much sense as possible from a game like that SkyDance

hushed steeple
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we have to look at it from the perspective of sky, I mean one of the most definite category is flight, it is either you fly or you don't, there is nothing in-between

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Gliding w/o flapping wings is kind of in between but isn’t really a thing in Sky so I digress

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Re: flying squirrels do not fly

lethal stump
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we do flap

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just not like regular flying creatures

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heck we don’t even have wings per se, we have capes

hushed steeple
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I know, that’s why I’m saying it’s not really relevant in the world of Sky

short owl
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I would argue we are inbetween. Birds fly indeffinately. Krill float indefinitely. Kids do not. And then the twins just jump big.

hushed steeple
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Skids are strange beings with their flight physics

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Back onto dark plants’ food: the size and shape of the plants implies photosynthesis, or at least genetic roots in such a thing, though the shape of the leaves could be used nowadays in order to collect carbon (which is used to ‘build’ the plant). Basically what I’m saying is dark plants probably used to photosynthesize, but they adapted to live in the dark and probably get most of their nutrients from water now.

lethal stump
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david attenborough voice
and here we see the rare jumping elder. they can be found in—
SkyElderValley2 SkyElderValley1: OI WHAT ARE YOU DOIN STALKING US

hushed steeple
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but how do they grow in the prescence of perpertual sunlight with no water around?

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like the prairies bells

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I don’t know man I just work here

But actually, that isn’t something I considered. The sunlight probably hinders their growth but isn’t deadly (I say based on my real life plants that do not like sunlight). I don’t know as far as water, though…

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I mean techncally since sky is literally in the clouds they can catch water vapor from the atmosphere likke fog nets/harps

lethal stump
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a thonk: what if they do eat light, and in the dark places we see them in they’ve already eaten all the light around them ?

hushed steeple
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yeah I am just going to go with that

short owl
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What if the shape serves a completely different purpose from gathering sunlight? For example, if the plants have a symbiotic relationship with something that likes to hide, maybe the leaves act as shelter for an animal known to bury light

hushed steeple
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That sounds very Sky-science-y by which I mean makes complete sense in the game. Though, how would they continue to get nutrients?

lethal stump
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OOO I JUST GOT A BRAINCELL MOMENT

hushed steeple
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And Null, the shape would probably evolve before a symbiotic relationship, but that’s definitely possible

lethal stump
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they suck it from the ground !
we even see in dark plants that there’s bits of light travelling from the base to the tips, meaning their root system goes deep enough to suck light from the ground
speaking of roots, they might be so prolific that it can explain why plants regrow so quickly

hushed steeple
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That sounds very Sky-science-y by which I mean makes complete sense in the game. Though, how would they continue to get nutrients?
I assume their nutrient is light, so they siphon it up through the stems, maybe this is why the prairies prayer bells were drained of coloration?

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wait brick just said what i said

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That makes sense, especially since Sky is a bunch of floating islands and so if their roots reach down below then boom, infinite light food

lethal stump
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o no im sorry skybot

hushed steeple
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what happened

lethal stump
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i said a thing and it was censored

hushed steeple
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ah

short owl
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Also weird thing: we know that mantas can get stuck in the plants. What if plants don't eat manta, but rather hide them from Krill and rain? The only reason mantas got stuck in the forest was the stress they were under when they last slipped under to hide (blame ancestors)

lethal stump
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and it could also explain why the manta we free isn’t dead yet, the roots haven’t properly gotten to it so we’re just burning the leaves/mouth that holds it there

hushed steeple
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I definitely don’t think the plants eat the mantas. If they did, like the Venus fly trap, the plants would literally commit self die every time we landed on them. It makes sense if the mantas are looking for shelter and just get stuck

lethal stump
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RIP lambda

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arguably we aren’t creatures of light, so we might not trigger the plants to commit self die

short owl
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And if the plants ate light, why would they move away from our candles?

hushed steeple
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can you elaborate?

lethal stump
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because light ≠ fire

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irl plants eat light, they still burn

short owl
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I wonder if they could also be turning off, like carnivorous plants often do

hushed steeple
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Venus fly traps commit self die if anything touches them

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what is self die?

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You die, but you do it by your own hand, because I won’t say the actual word because ✨trauma✨

short owl
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Carnivorous plants often grow feeding heads or tubes or whatever and consume whatever goes in... To a point. Once they eat enough, their once deadly feeding body kinda stops

broken basin
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I think they're plants that feed on light?

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Like irl plants
But much more brutally

hushed steeple
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perhaps they feed on light on small quantities, but, when exposed to a higher amount of light than what they can handle (like us shoving a candle on them), they wilt

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do you think the leaves of dark plants secrete a liquid that is adhesive to light, but the secreted liquid is non-adhesive and partially low viscosity for anything else? this would be useful from an evolutionary standpoint to filter their food?

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hence mantas get stuck

trim kraken
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Sorry to be off topic, but do we have a doc for Season of Prophecy theories? I thought someone mentioned it a while ago but I couldn’t find it in the pins. I just finished the earth trial and really want to know what other people think of the mural stickerShiny

pastel brookBOT
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Surely you didn't propheSEE this one coming pFIRE

lethal stump
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@trim kraken there’s a theory document in the pins, with a section for theories about prophecy. however no one has added to it yet

trim kraken
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Gotcha, thank you! Haha hopefully we’ll fill it in 😁

hushed steeple
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we're still waiting for the mural to be complete and for beta spoilers to not be spoilers anymore

short owl
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... That "and" concerns me

lethal stump
short owl
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Something is in the center of that fire challenge.

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I know it.

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And I place a one heart bet that it's not a wl

trim kraken
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Lol I can’t wait

hushed steeple
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I'm getting an overflowing temptation to watch the fire trial pFIRE

short owl
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Wait... Someone able to justify opening Sky, how many quests are left this season?

trim kraken
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Only two, if the last hidden node in the quest giver constellation is definitely a heart and not something strange and sneaky

lyric rune
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what are we doing

hushed steeple
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definitely not getting obsessed over the next seasonal stuff pFIRE

stone rivet
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Let's talk skid age

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I know it.
Do we definitely need to collect it

sinful anvil
boreal nebula
hexed flume
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Do we know exactly what the elders are? They seem like they're the "gods" of their culture, but at the same time they also seem different from that in a sense

short owl
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We know they are the stars that fell in the opening cutscene. We also know they are outside time and space at the moment

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And that they are associated with but are not at their temples

hexed flume
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So the fallen stars are a mix of the elders and Imprints of light?

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Eef

lethal stump
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imprints arent stars

short owl
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If you want more than theory, expect a lot of shrugs

hexed flume
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ThEn WhY Do We TaKE ThEM InTO oRbIT

lethal stump
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they’re imprints of the child of light
not only stars go to orbit

hexed flume
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Whos the child of light again-

short owl
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They are imprints of a singular child, but also the light of a plural fallen

lethal stump
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the child of light is the child of light

short owl
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We don't know. Many of us think the prince cause the prince is associated with elders but also smol and also has never been seen in game yet confirmed to "kind of" exist

hexed flume
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Hmm

lethal stump
short owl
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SHUSH BETA PLAYER

lethal stump
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.pPopcorn pPopcorn pPopcorn pPopcorn pPopcorn pPopcorn

hexed flume
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Oki so if I understand right

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Imprints of light are remnants or possibly memory fragments from the child of light who is possibly the prince of the kingdom of sky.
Taking the imprints into orbit serves a specific purpose we aren't quite aware of yet

short owl
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It also seems to make the eden statues into very shiny fly bois. We don't have any solid answers about the statues either.

hexed flume
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Oooo okay I'm starting to theorize

short owl
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one of us

lethal stump
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have you read the moff doc peachy ?

hexed flume
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I skimmed the important parts but I got busy, when I tried coming back to read it it was buried under everyone else's messages, and I didn't get to download it 🥲

lethal stump
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it’s only about 700 words, shouldn’t be that hard to finish ^^

hexed flume
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I see

sinful anvil
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alright. if you give imprints to the statues, they become shiny children who join the stars at the end. so thats what i get the impression of

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im not sure but i take it that shiny children who join the stars are literal children of star/light, but fueled by imprints? weird

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or they are literal stars

austere nymph
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idk where to ask this but here so does anyone have any maps of like, all of sky? i know there’s probably not any official one but ye

frail hearth
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there are concepts

red vortex
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Hey there

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Anyone see grill bates?

frail hearth
hushed steeple
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Hey chrisis is that a rupels vulture?

sacred rapids
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so I have been thinking about the masks for the current season
as we know the masks are animal masks from creatures that at one point where somewhere in the sky world
my main question is how big was the spider?

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and and and was it a light or dark creature

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looks like I might have some art to draw sometime

hushed steeple
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Hm. The ancestors were light creatures, so I don’t imagine that they would make a dark creature as a mask, but large spiders and light are not friends

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And what in the world could be in that

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I should not talk about that since I looked at all the spoilers and know exactly what it is

sacred rapids
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idk I think we gotta burn it

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my thinking

boreal nebula
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Could it be...
The Darkness ?

sacred rapids
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we better get some wax outa that thing

boreal nebula
sacred rapids
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yeah I was wondering about that

hushed steeple
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based on the current pattern, each trial should have checkpoints

sacred rapids
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a stupid theory but whatever
inside of that ball rests the king

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or prince I don't judge

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hey bricky -if your here- do you mind asking whenever a dev is around, how big the spider that the mask based on and if it's a light or dark creature?

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or anyone that might be around

hushed steeple
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noted

sacred rapids
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I just have a need to know

kind bobcat
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The spider could've been a reference to concept Wasteland Elder

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He was a spider at some point

sacred rapids
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I'm sorry what

kind bobcat
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A very scary one indeed pEyes

sacred rapids
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send pic

gloomy stag
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@hushed steeple Where is that?

hushed steeple
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Its the prophecy trailer

pastel brookBOT
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The voice of @hushed steeple is a whisper that echoes through the ages. May we meet again in the Eye of Eden!

kind bobcat
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i'm sorry i'm too lazy to find a picture

gloomy stag
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Ooh!

hushed steeple
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@pastel brook stickerOK

sacred rapids
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alright what folder is it in?

kind bobcat
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I think it's in the 7 Days of Sky

sacred rapids
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got it

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I'll find it eventually

frail hearth
sacred rapids
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oh
oh god
what in eden

kind bobcat
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Ah yes

hushed steeple
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Child friendly

kind bobcat
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Thank you Koma

frail hearth
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np

gloomy stag
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Thats the wasteland elder!?

frail hearth
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yeah

kind bobcat
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Concept sky was in the 13+ area pPopcorn

hushed steeple
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Wholesome elder, would wear his hair

kind bobcat
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And could be considered a horror game

frail hearth
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the wasteland was supposed to be an abandoned city

hushed steeple
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Isnt that everything in sky?

frail hearth
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thats why it has computers and stuff on it

sacred rapids
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I'll just stick with the current wasteland elder thanks

gloomy stag
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What made him like that?

hushed steeple
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I just thought about that the elders created the light creatures

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Like you see it in the praire cutscene

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The elder creats a butterfly out of fire

gloomy stag
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That makes me wonder where mantas come from...

hushed steeple
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There is a theory that creatures also reborn and evolve

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Butterfly, bird, baby manta, normal manta etc

sacred rapids
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I want to see the krill's eden

kind bobcat
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According to concepts that's what happens

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Light creatures go to orbit and get reborn as a bigger and stronger light creatures

sacred rapids
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them why aren't we bigger?

hushed steeple
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Because we already are the ultimate lifeform

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jojo reference

sacred rapids
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I don't think we're at that level yet since we can still die to rocksSkyLOL

hushed steeple
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Which rocks

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The red that steal our light

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Or the normal ones that crashes with us at 300 mph speed

sacred rapids
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both

hushed steeple
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Both steal our light and winged light

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where do our light go after it has been knocked out and we didn't pick it up in time?

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i think this is the dividing line between game mechanics and lore

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but consequentially, if you consider some parts of game mechanics to be lore, all of it has to be considered

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instruments was an internal experiment

west stag
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I have a feeling the wl you collected it from goes back to its spot? I've noticed if I lose light I see a wl back in its place i collected beforehand

hushed steeple
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yes, but I would like to know how it get there in terms of lore, it is not like it just magically teleports to its original position, I mean it does but like I want to believe in an interpretation that ties it together

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mainly because I have to consider this due to underlying theories that include game mechanics

hushed steeple
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Oh my theory is the wl is dead and gone and the shiny boi, sensing that it's creation is gone, makes a new one for u to collect

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Bc of the slashing

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Of the wl

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So cuz of the slashing i think the wl is dead...

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So shinyboi made a new one

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Now I'm just repeating myself

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What exactly even are the sky kids anyway? Are they supposed to be living candles or something?

lethal stump
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up to you SkyKiss

hushed steeple
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Hi...

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Ok folks

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So kingdom>brightness > now wut

lethal stump
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[Brightness]
[Some method to split animals from plants]
[Flight]
[Other; appendages, translucency, etc.,]

hushed steeple
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Lurkers, this is gonna be the new organism classification system of sky.... u might wanna join in for this...

lethal stump
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it will be our theory, we don’t have to push it on anyone else

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if someone doesn’t care for it, very well

hushed steeple
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[Brightness]
[Some method to split animals from plants]
[Flight]
[Other; appendages, translucency, etc.,]
@lethal stump bricky.... the plant thingie is called kingdom and they have animals plants and fungi plus it should go above brightness

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it will be our theory, we don’t have to push it on anyone else
@lethal stump oh yes definitely

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Kingdom as in kingdom phylum and stuff

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I forgot the whole taxonomical hierarchy

lethal stump
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a) no need to ping
b) considering this is an entirely different world, i’m approaching it by the way the world works, and brightness/alignment takes precedence
c) then we have no need to ask people who might not care to have input

hushed steeple
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Ok i get c and lets go with b then

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Brightness, kingdom, here is prob where class comes in...

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so if I am understanding correctly, the hierarchy is in the order of common attribute/characteristics

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Oh wait

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Flight is prob unnecessary too cuz all light creatures fly and krill can prob only fly cuz they consume light

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No wait thats not it

low quail
hushed steeple
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Krill prob have a different means of flight thelan light creatures cuz they dont use flight energy cuz they r dark creatures

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oh, I thought we are classifying all fauna/flora in sky, not just those pertaining to light?

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Oh yes we r thinking abt wut comes after hrighness and kingdom and bricky said flight

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We r classifying all organisms

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I think flight is a good indicator, because it separates at the genus level, then succeeding classification would be interspecies differences like manta appendages and variations

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No but that kinda flight comes after transparency

lethal stump
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[Brightness]
[Some method to split animals from plants]
[Flight]
[Other; appendages, translucency, etc.,]
so do you agree with this, Lamb ?

hushed steeple
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ie. all crabs(unless there is a counterexample) can not fly

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yeah brick, it is pretty good, just need to figure out the second classifier

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Brick.... its called kingdom... the method to split plants from animals is kingdom...

cobalt garnet
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So I've noticed through every single memory from the elders alongside the new Season of Prophecy spirits, it occurs to me that there was some war or something they were preparing for. Can someone help me on this?

lethal stump
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yes but we need to figure out what separates plants from animals in sky

hushed steeple
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And fungi too

lethal stump
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also, elders ? there’s no mention of the elders aside from the isle elder in SoP

hushed steeple
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Wut?

lethal stump
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im replying to Kioshi

hushed steeple
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Oh

livid valley
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Lmao

cobalt garnet
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Yes, but I'm trying to bring out my question. You see, the elder cutscenes hint to something. The wasteland elder cutscene shows him practicing his spear jabbing, forest Elder with her hammer and "stones", and daylight prarie with his butterflies, which is a prime source of light. After looking at it multiple times, something tells me that that the were preparing for something, for some battle or something more.

lethal stump
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the stones create a power diamond

hushed steeple
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Guys...

cobalt garnet
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I don't know if you get what I'm trying to ask, but there it is.

lethal stump
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i mean, i can’t give you an answer

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im no authority on lore

hushed steeple
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Yes ok

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im no authority on lore
@lethal stump wut?

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Oh... that authority

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Ok now

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re: pyre
yeah there isn't really a definite way to separate animals from plants/fungi because we have no idea their phylogeny and structural composition other than their current appearance, I say we consult bluespirit on this

lethal stump
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i concur lambda

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we should relay this to her and have her look it over before we move on

hushed steeple
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Plants do photosynthesis,animals move, and fungi r the rest when it comes to sky

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Oh ok bluspirit lets send it to her

lethal stump
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@mortal viper oi blue what are your thoughts

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[Brightness]
[Kingdom]
[Flight]
[Other; appendages, translucency, etc.,]

hushed steeple
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the difference in phylogeny between plants and animals comes down basically to plants developing chloroplasts and sustaining photosynthesis meant they had no need to be mobile as they make their own food and retrieve energy/nutrients I think, don't quote me on that, i have absolutely no knwoledge in biology

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I rlly dont think flight is a thing...

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Oh and fungi lambda fungi

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fungi is closer to animals than plants I think

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I am by no means an expert on this

livid valley
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Yep that's true

lethal stump
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mushrooms being closer to me than a flower is creepy ngl

sacred rapids
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whoah

fast laurel
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Yes, but I'm trying to bring out my question. You see, the elder cutscenes hint to something. The wasteland elder cutscene shows him practicing his spear jabbing, forest Elder with her hammer and "stones", and daylight prarie with his butterflies, which is a prime source of light. After looking at it multiple times, something tells me that that the were preparing for something, for some battle or something more.
@cobalt garnet sorry for the ping, but i thought this was really interesting. What if the elders were each harnessing different light sources? Since either light or darkness seem to power everything in Sky, they must have been utilizing this. (Unless they’re evil/prefer darkness) there’s also (im not sure if this is canon) stories about how the krill used to be trapped/chained, but they broke free and escaped, why else would they be hostile? Because they are bitter about something but w h a t exactly

lethal stump
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that krill story is indeed fandom

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it’s not canonical

fast laurel
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That’s what i thought, but it’s a very interesting concept

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I just want to know why they want to attack on sight, it would honestly make more sense if they simply attacked and then stole your light

mortal viper
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oi blue what are your thoughs
Hum? What's this?

hushed steeple
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I mean there are plants that grow on other plants that are not strictly parasitic, epiphytes in rainforests and iti s another whole different story if they are parasitic.. plants are well interesting

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oh yay blue is here

mortal viper
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I have been sumoned but I don't understant for what

hushed steeple
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oh we are building a classification system for fauna and flora like the taxonomy in real life

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and we are not sure how to separate plants from animals and fungi

mortal viper
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ohohohoho

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we are geting into that then

hushed steeple
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the one brick sent is our low-effort rudimentary attempt

clear lynx
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There’s statues of a man

lethal stump
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yes, @clear lynx it’s the king

mortal viper
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well, if we go by earth rules:

  • plants make photosynthesis (meaning they usualy don't need to eat other beings for nutrients) and cannot move on their own, they have a cellular wall made of lignin and that's mostly it
  • fungi DO NOT make photosynthesis, they actualy secrete substances outside of their cells that digest what's around them (hence they being mostly decompositors), they also have cellular wall, but theirs is made of quitine (same substance you find in insects that make them crunchy), and they also can't move on their own
  • animals DO NOT make photosynthesis (let's ignore the weird sea slug that steal it's abilities from plants and algae) so they need to eat and their cells do not have cellular walls. animals are usualy able to move on their own, but not aways.
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the first one who dares to mention carnivorous plants get yeeted to orbit

lethal stump
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slowly closes mouth

clear lynx
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yes, @clear lynx it’s the king
@lethal stump far as I was investigating, he’s name it’s alef

lethal stump
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the king’s name is either alef or resh

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depending on your interpretation

clear lynx
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And... why the statues are only on GW and Eden?

lethal stump
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well, there’s king propaganda all over the place

clear lynx
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Why the Forrest headpice seems like the king eye?

lethal stump
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his emblem/symbol is everywhere

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that’s up to you

clear lynx
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his emblem/symbol is everywhere
@lethal stump not exactly

lethal stump
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devs said so, though

clear lynx
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Rlly?

lethal stump
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have you read the canon lore doc ?

clear lynx
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Ye

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Is king dead?

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Or he’s kinda like a god?

mortal viper
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god is megabird

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the king is beyond saving

lethal stump
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megabird is a more godlike figure

clear lynx
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Mega bird it’s dead.

mortal viper
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that's all we know

lethal stump
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what makes you think Megabird is dead ?

mortal viper
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is she? that's new to me

clear lynx
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Wait

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Wait

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Whos the corrupted elder?

lethal stump
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eden elder

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megan isn’t an elder

clear lynx
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The lore says there’s a elder whom was once corrupted

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Megan?

lethal stump
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Megabird is not an elder

clear lynx
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I thought king was the corrupted one

lethal stump
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it doesn’t specify corrupted, only beyond saving

clear lynx
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Hm...

lethal stump
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also

clear lynx
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Are we sons of alef?

lethal stump
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the king plays an active role in the story of sky but maybe not in the way you may think SkyThink
he's not there in the same way as the elders you see in the cutscenes
he is an important figure in the current lore of sky
he's just not there the same way as the spirits you see in the individual realms are
there are also subtle designs and motifs referencing the king in the world too. iirc some of the latticework in valley/dusk temple has a design pattern reminiscent of the kings head
could be worth discussing some of the meanings the diamond shapes may have and maybe what connections that symbolizes

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we could be, up to you

clear lynx
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Ay the very start of SKY

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Some one tell us a short story

lethal stump
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yes

clear lynx
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And in that story

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It says “return the stars back home my son”

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Or

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Something like that

lethal stump
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But darkness came, and the stars fell...
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
A long time has passed. Now, I call to you. 
Wake up, child.  Bring our lost stars home.```
clear lynx
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We are childs of light meaning that light is out father

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OMG YOU ARE SO HELPFUL I LOVE THIS

lethal stump
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it’s in the pins

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have you read the pins ?

clear lynx
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Idk how to use discord

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I just read

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I don’t like commands

lethal stump
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you don’t need commands

clear lynx
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I read something about an apocalypse

lethal stump
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are you on mobile or computer ?

clear lynx
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Mobile, may that’s why

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Darkness apocalypse

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And a oracle

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Is that up to something?

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Whats the source of darkness?

lethal stump
clear lynx
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:0

lethal stump
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what did you read, Captain ?

clear lynx
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GW was is his past was a cool place

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Y know

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Creatures

lethal stump
clear lynx
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LIGHT creatures

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And stuff

mortal viper
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krill corruption?

lethal stump
clear lynx
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Krill it’s a product of darkness isn’t it?

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Krill lives in the dark brea

mortal viper
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we don't know

lethal stump
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we don’t know what they are, only that they’re dark creatures

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krill are entirely a mystery

clear lynx
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They are light devour

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Sorry my English it’s not the best, m tryin my best

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Krills eat and consumes light

mortal viper
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it's ok dear
and yes it apears to be so

clear lynx
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Ok

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Then

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Darkness it’s not actually coming from krills

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Darkness consumes light and whit that produces krill

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Kinda like “light doesn’t exist whit out darkness” and the same for darkness

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There’s a elder temple destroyed at the second place in GW

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That’s makes me think

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It’s the actual elder of GW the same as wen darkness was no there?

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Because at GW there’s a TON of statues of king

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And as I been seein in the murals, GW did built 5 boats or arks to scape from the darkness

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3 of them were citadels and 2 where militar boats

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Were*

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There’s a statue of king in forgotten ark

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Same as the militar boat in the shipyard at GW

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There’s a destroyed ark at eye of Eden.

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And little boats, (kinda the emergency evac ones) at the entrance of Eden.

lethal stump
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what murals ?

thin dirge
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Well, an important hint is probably at the orange light mural in Cave of Prophecies

clear lynx
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Forgotten ark ones, new cave, and also the rock at island

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This is just a image TGC did publish while ago.

thin dirge
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That's concepts

clear lynx
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It can just be an idea btw

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I know

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But I like the concept

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All murals have 3 huge citadel arks feein away from GW

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So, at the beginning of the game

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Says that all 6 realms found the Eden no?

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Im I wrong?

lethal stump
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found the eden ? i don’t believe so

clear lynx
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They made Eden

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Or something like that

lethal stump
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it doesn’t say anything like that

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But darkness came, and the stars fell...
Together, the fallen stars made a new home in the clouds.
If only they had listened...
A long time has passed. Now, I call to you. 
Wake up, child.  Bring our lost stars home.```
clear lynx
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The fallen stars made a new home in the clouds

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That’s a meaning for eden

lethal stump
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as that line is said, the temples appear, not only eden

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they founded the whole kingdom not merely eden

clear lynx
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They made Eden as kind of a safe place from darkness no?

lethal stump
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maybe
i cant confirm nor deny that

clear lynx
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If that’s a yes

lethal stump
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it’s not

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it’s a maybe

clear lynx
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Well

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50/50

lethal stump
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there’s no yes or no’s in sky lore

fallen epoch
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Can we talk about how the skykids have heartbeats?

clear lynx
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Did the fallen stars tried to return Eden whit the arks?

lethal stump
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perhaps

clear lynx
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And failed in the atemp

lethal stump
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although we do see a star fall to eden

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which to me says that they could access it easily

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and also considering the eden castle, i think it’s where the eden elder (prince/king) lived

clear lynx
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MAy be the eye of Eden was the entrance to that sanctuary

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But darkness did corrupt the eye.

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Cuz darkness is all around vault. But not inside of it thanks to the warrior elder.

hushed steeple
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what, that sea slug is the literal definition of you are what you eat

clear lynx
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Vault it’s like a non existing place

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Hm...

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It’s king the elder of Eden?

lethal stump
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it’s assumed that’s the case, yes

clear lynx
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If that’s the case

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King it’s corrupted.

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And once a time wing was the leader of GW

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And the ark at Eden

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Was were king was

lethal stump
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time wing ?

clear lynx
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King*

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All the kiddos u give your wings

lethal stump
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also there’s no ark in eden

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aside from small boats

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there’s no big ark

clear lynx
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Theres one at the very eye of Eden

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At leasy parts of it

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Damn idk how to say parts of boats

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Lemme go for a traductor

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There’s a HUGE front part at the part where rocks non stop falling

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Also a mast

fallen epoch
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You got a photo?

clear lynx
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I did go today to confirm this, but no foto, I will go tomorrow and take all pics

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At reset

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I’ll @ u all

lethal stump
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please don’t

clear lynx
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A

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Okies

lethal stump
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also there’s no boat in stormlock, it’s actually part of a statue that falls off

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it’s a common misconception that it’s a boat

clear lynx
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Not that part

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It’s forward

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At the non stoping rocks

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Left side.

mortal viper
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what, that sea slug is the literal definition of you are what you eat
@hushed steeple let us not go down the rabit hole of exceptions in biology

clear lynx
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The mast it’s on the right

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U see that there’s a little torch under a pice of floor?

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At that part

hushed steeple
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yes bluespirit, i shall not venture into the rabiit hole

clear lynx
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Look around there 👀

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There’s the front part of the boat burrowed in debree

mortal viper
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ye can call me blue, lambda

clear lynx
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Why wen we die at Eden we reborn

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And get to go Eden

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But if not being at Eden, no reborn at all

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I thing there’s something werid we all missing about eye of Eden.

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And I still can’t figúrate what it is.

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Cuz if the eye take us to a sanctuary in the clouds

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The eye isn’t darkness at all.

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Can we talk about how the skykids have heartbeats?
@fallen epoch HM.

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It might be the little blue spirit thing inside of us.

fallen epoch
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Hold on

clear lynx
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A

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As the memories of spirits we see

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We indeed are spirits too wen we die.

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But our spirits got rebirth at Eden whit a brand new bodie.

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Well I think so.

pastel brookBOT
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Hey @spice condor, it looks like you shared an invite link in a public channel. Sky invites are single use and it's best to share them through DMs

clear lynx
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Lol

fast jasper
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helloooooo dead lore chat

clear lynx
undone harbor
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lore chat is always dead,when it's active it's just a little less dead

lethal stump
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gather ‘round the campfire children, there was once a time when lore chat was always moving...

undone harbor
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w o t

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h o w

nocturne zealot
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maybe eden is the point of ascension thats why we got called to there as well as other creatures

astral valley
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Is the water mask a goat or some type of old turtle?

hushed steeple
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most likely a turtle, but some people call it a penguin as well!

lethal stump
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it’s confirmed to be a turtle

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turtle, spider, bat, and lion

astral valley
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Old turtle

lethal stump
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bearded turtle SkyDance

clear lynx
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GW mask it’s a whale

hushed steeple
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Hi lore peeps

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First of all i 2ould like to say the statues in eden r skids or summin similar, not skid.ver.1.0 cuz when the shells crack they look like us

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Second i have a huge theory and bricky this wont include the spoiler

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Now...

lethal stump
hushed steeple
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When the spirits all died in the trials shiny boi came along and did it all that much we know.... so i was thinking shinyboi is prob got past the trials and has all the wisdoms and now has emense power, and he is like king arthur and the prophets believe he is fit to rule the kingdom... so he travels the realms and leaves imprints
everywhere like mini landmarks... which r the wl things so... then he gets coronated and becomes the king and then gets corrupted... the king is now a monster but there still is a part of him that is kind and he destroys himself and that kills him and destroyed eden... now the prince or king is huddled up in orbit and in self exile regretting everything he did... he is the shinyboi that we hug and he opens up the road to Ascension for the brave souls that have died saving the statues in eden

lethal stump
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you’re really pushing it pyre

hushed steeple
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No wait the imprints arent landmarks.... i think... they r there to bring light to the daroest corners of sky prob...

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pSquint pSquint pSquint
@lethal stump wut? I am? how? do u want me to delete it? Cuz i could do that if this is somehow spoilery....

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That thing u showed me is the only spoiler i know right now and it was after i made this theory

lethal stump
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it’s still suspicious, dude

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just leave it until after prophecy is complete, ok ?

hushed steeple
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Ok

shadow kindle
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I'm curious about why we get all shiny during trials

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almost reminds me of wings

hushed steeple
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Yes!!!

earnest steeple
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I have a theory of the king killing the prophets after they give the prophecy since in the beginning when you first get the game it talks about a prophecy and how they didn’t listen to it so that’s why their demise happened. It’s just speculation but it could be possible I’ll have to look for more context clues later if I can

pastel brookBOT
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I’m sure it’ll be fine! ..... Right?

hushed steeple
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Ooooh maybe the prophets stopped giving trial passers powers outside the trials after the shinyboi messed everything up and now they think its too dangerous

earnest steeple
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Maybe they stopped giving the power because they knew the king would most likely abuse the power or had abused the power of the trials

hushed steeple
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Prob had abused cuz the king is in the past cuz we dont see him alive in sky only propaganda

wintry gull
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omg that’s such a cool idea!

hushed steeple
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Right?

earnest steeple
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I feel like it’s a possible theory but it would be really fun to explore with it

wintry gull
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there’s a theory document that maybe you could add it to!

earnest steeple
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I probably could but I’m a bit scared to lol

lethal stump
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don’t be, you’ve met the single requirement to add to it

wintry gull
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yeah!!

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i was reading them earlier today and they’re so interesting to read

earnest steeple
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Yeah I’m probably not going to add it to the document since I really don’t a lot of info on it and I’d like to snoop around to see if it’s possible to find more evidence for the theory

lethal stump
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hm
im staring at the concept poster in office

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do y’all think itd be worth it to try and figure out what it says ? incase there’s lore hints ? or nah

hushed steeple
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Can you send a screenshot?

hushed steeple
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Wuts a gremlin?

lethal stump
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google it, pyre

livid valley
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lol

gentle sparrow
solar relic
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from the pins, CAFA game art 2018

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i think this might be the office poster? it follows the time of day labelling but it's show differently

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the boards are in chinese but english translations are put in the descriptions

prime hemlock
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What are the elders names?

lethal stump
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Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.

prime hemlock
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Oo

hushed steeple
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Hey 🧱 has blu commented abt the animal classification?

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Brick u there?

willow shoal
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Okay guys, I post some texts in the doc about CN server lore. Sorry for no en version

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I will put more information in the future

clear lynx
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King it’s resh! And prince alef!

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I NEVER SAW THAT

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MY THING NOW MAKES SENSE OMGGGGGGGGGG

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A

sinful anvil
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the fact that the doc says the descendant begins in isle of dawn hints it follows more closely the light awaits lore

clear lynx
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Agree.

ruby tapir
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God I was going to ask where to start reading up on Lore, but I'm living with all the info in the pins stickerShiny agooglehearts

solar relic
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this would help too :))

ruby tapir
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Aaaa thank you!!

solar relic
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happy theorising! pAww

dull fox
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Someone I know made the connection that the spider mask from prophecy looks like a symbol for the Egyptian Spider God. Has anyone made any connections with any other Egyptian Gods?

gilded fossil
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/Anubis

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/the quest giver dud is Anubis, told by devs

dull fox
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Yeah. But what about the other three?

hushed steeple
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Someone I know made the connection that the spider mask from prophecy looks like a symbol for the Egyptian Spider God. Has anyone made any connections with any other Egyptian Gods?
@dull fox spider god? U sure it isnt the scarab god?

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There is no turtle god

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There is a lion god but sop's lion is from asia

gilded fossil
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/maybe? Idk

hushed steeple
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Heavy atlab influences

dull fox
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Idk. I think it looks a little similar

hushed steeple
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Oh yeah the sop spider isnt the web weaving type... more like a tarantula

dull fox
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Yeah

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And I heard something about a water dragon existing in mythology which to me makes a little more sense than it being a turtle with a beard

uncut root
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So is Light Awaits The beta name?

hushed steeple
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Plus the Egyptian lion goddess of carnage and stuff is a female...

dull fox
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Yeah. I’ve always thought it was a dragon because Chinese dragons have doglike features like a nose and such

hushed steeple
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So is Light Awaits The beta name?
@uncut root yea... i think the world was more beautiful but the controls sucked i hear

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The nose of an asian dragon is a pig's and its horns r deer horns... thing is... the asian dragon is a chimera of sorts

uncut root
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This could be where the turtle comes from

dull fox
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Yeah

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But turtles don’t have beards

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:/

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Idk. Maybe I’m too caught up on the beard

hushed steeple
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Thats prob a land turtle... we r looking for a loggerhead or maybe a kemps riddley

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Ok folks brb

dull fox
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I’m still thinking water dragon

solar relic
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reika confirmed the turtle is waterbased

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also i searched for turtles with a beard and

dull fox
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Very cute

solar relic
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dam the only instances of turtles having beards

dull fox
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Santa turtle

solar relic
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is not actually having a beard but rather skin shedding

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LOL that too

dull fox
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Nasty

solar relic
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would the beard just be for design points then SkyThink

hushed steeple
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Very cute
@dull fox look up peninsula cooter and lets hear u say that of a seaturtle ever again...

dull fox
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I don’t think TGC adds things just for design

solar relic
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i mean

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the halo was pretty much a design thing

dull fox
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Luckily I can’t google things so I won’t

solar relic
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on the anubis mask

hushed steeple
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I don’t think TGC adds things just for design
@dull fox let me introduce u to the circular shadows of mantas

dull fox
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That’s because they don’t have raytracing

hushed steeple
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the halo was pretty much a design thing
@solar relic wut???!!!

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That’s because they don’t have raytracing
@dull fox yes

solar relic
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lead artist yui tanabe came up with the initial design for anubis mask and then ash was like "yo let's add a halo to it" and everyone agreed

hushed steeple
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I thought the halo was emphasizing the qg's connection to megan like most prophets

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lead artist yui tanabe came up with the initial design for anubis mask and then ash was like "yo let's add a halo to it" and everyone agreed
@solar relic this place is called lore chat for a reason.... lets make an in universe explanation

solar relic
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up to you broski

dull fox
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I think it’s to emphasize the importance of the prophet who wore that one

hushed steeple
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Hmmmm yes

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Brb

dull fox
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They are in the memories but were probably the one who taught the others

solar relic
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i think of it as a visual emphasis for the guide being a guide

dull fox
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Yeah. Enlightenment symbolized

solar relic
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that's one take yes

dull fox
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Ye

hushed steeple
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But why a halo? Why not a pendant or a tiara?

dull fox
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Because halo is something angelic

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Something that not anyone can have

solar relic
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my answer is due to game design lol

dull fox
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But this is lore there has to be a lore explanation

hushed steeple
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My take is connection to megan and mimicking the real halos around spirits n stuff

solar relic
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yeah that's why i'm not saying it

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hmmm

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yeah it might signify a blessing on the guide given by megan

hushed steeple
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See... the qg is not one of the original teachers at the prophecy school so most likely he joined when the prophets were reopening the school for skids, so maybe this second generation of spirits thought that a halo was a sign of holiness.... like the cross

dull fox
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I thought that this whole thing was about how people got to the island of sky? What’s this about a prophet school?

pastel brookBOT
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how many prophecies would a prophet prophesize if a prophet could prophesize prophecies?

gilded fossil
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/pfffft sky bot bruh

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/i feeel like the be in a school, they learn about patience and resilience and stuff

dull fox
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The prophets I think are trying to train them to help with the stuff they’ll have to do on the island. I think the prophets heard about what happened to the previous inhabitants (the elders, a much larger group of people in stature than the spirits who inhabit it) and were trying to prepare the colonists for the things that are going on there

gilded fossil
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/oooh maybe

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/althooo

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/prophet may refer to the biblical version of the word, the one who teaches back what god said (or sth)

pastel brookBOT
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help im stuck writing prophecies

dull fox
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I’ll help you skybot

gilded fossil
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/good luck skybot

inland narwhal
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So, I came across the first water mural in cave with rain and wondered if the cave is between isle and forest because even the barrier to cave has the forest constellation.

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Also the cave in prarie has forest constellation barrier.

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Or is it something developers overlooked.

gilded fossil
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/i saaaay, thats just something to prevent you to advancing too quickly

clear lynx
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Resh it’s light and alef darkness?

gilded fossil
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/uh, not really, but imo its the other way around

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/we have like 0 to nothing info about these 2

hushed steeple
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Yup

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I thought that this whole thing was about how people got to the island of sky? What’s this about a prophet school?
@dull fox prob not.... its prob like an agent academy/sunday school..... after all, ppl die in the trials to prepare for wut? Yawning and hide and seek? No... they had a harder mission

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Idk wut the harder mission was tho... my guess is the trials were like the sword of arthur and the guy to do the trials became the king...

dull fox
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Ah yes. Except that it says in the release thing in news that it’s about the origin of the villagers in Sky.

hushed steeple
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Yea.... i cant spoil soooooo lets wait and see

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U could be right too

dull fox
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I don’t think that the villagers themselves died doing the trials because skykids are different then the villagers. We can fly. We are powered by flames. The water trial kills us because the water puts out our flames. Villagers probably just get a little bit of hypothermia when they fell into the water which would’ve been the reason you don’t want to do that.

inland zenith
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Who are the elders?

dull fox
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I believe that the elders are the original inhabitants of the world of Sky. Others will probably disagree, but I think that there were two different peoples who populated the world of sky. The elders and their species, a group of very large, very powerful people who harnessed light energy and fought a war which eradicated themselves, and the spirits we encounter regularly, who are a group of colonists who came after the elders species had destroyed itself. They populated the world of sky until some unknown catastrophe caused them to die out too.

hardy vector
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Krill are actually whales

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Actually

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No

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I said what I said

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Krill are found in Wasteland and Eden

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Whales have 2 varieties: the light whales; found in Forest’s Secret Area, Sanctuary, and Orbit, where as there is a single dark whale found in the area prior to Wasteland

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Now in sanctuary is there is a progression with completing the quest

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Babi Mantas->Big Boi Mantas-> Super Manta->WHITE WHALE CALL ME AHAB

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This could indicate that a whale is a rare progression of the manta

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Hence why there aren’t too many in the world of sky

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Actually there’s about 4 many but I’m not counting :3c

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dark whale in a corrupted zone? Heading further into the golden wasteland? Maybe it’s going there to BECOME A KRILL

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White Whales ONLY appear in places of high natural light energy like orbit or Sanctuary an area that is “An Escape From Civilisation”

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The only dark whale is EVIL AND GONNA BECOME A KRILL TO EAT OUR LIIIIGHT OoooOooOooo

solar relic
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the big creature in sanctuary is an elder manta actually

hushed steeple
hardy vector
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||THE DARK WHALE IS GOING TO EAT OUR LIGHT||

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||ITS LIKE POKEMON BUT WOTH MANTAS||

solar relic
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uhh you don

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't need to spoiler anything here lol

hardy vector
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Lmao

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But there is clearly a progression from Papa Manta to Evil Whale

solar relic
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how so?

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since you didn't go into detail

hardy vector
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Just in the concept art you posted there’s clearly a growth cycle

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But the whales concept art feels like

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An alternative evolution line

solar relic
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ahh i understand now

hardy vector
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I think the Whales were mantas negatively effected by whatever the EVENT was

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Since the Dark Whales themselves only appear in areas effected by it

solar relic
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ah so what you're saying is that the whales are "defected" manta evolutions while krill are corrupted whales, so dark whales?

hardy vector
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Exactly!

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Would explain the ratio of the papa mantas to whales

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Also mantas like the light right?

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Would pre cataclysm Eden have been light central

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?

solar relic
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for now i've thought of eden as where many light creatures were sent to die in order to power the big eden diamond

hardy vector
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don’t light deficient creatures in sky seek other sources of light - skykid or otherwise?

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What if the krill are light drained Whales/Papa Mantas

solar relic
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motd says krills are hungry for light so that is possible

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well specifically for your light, skid light

hardy vector
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It’s all connected SkyScared

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There was also the manta (rest in peace lil guy) at the first encounter of he

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GW

solar relic
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yes

hardy vector
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I gotta

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I gotta check out their bones

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If they have any sort of similar bone structure to krill then that would be a pretty solid indicator

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But that’s just a theory

solar relic
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which bones are you talking about?

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my friend blue has some krill anatomy analysis here but the thing is, krill are intangible since they can pass through walls and the ground so they probably don't have bones

hardy vector
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Hmm

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I was thinking of comparing the bones found in forest and vault to krill anatomy

hushed steeple
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Hello I'm here to give more brain power to all lore moffs

hardy vector
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Please sir my brain is but a hamster wheel and I’m all out of feed

hushed steeple
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You a new face?

solar relic
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the bones in forest are of a whale

hardy vector
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Whichhhhh

hushed steeple
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Yes

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Hence why we get the whale call there

solar relic
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the ones by that broken building

hushed steeple
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Yep

solar relic
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in the area before the temple

hushed steeple
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Whale call location

hardy vector
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So if we were to say that

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Krill are a super corrupted whale

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Then

hushed steeple
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No, i think they are a different species

hardy vector
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I wrote half a thesis up here

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There

hushed steeple
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Since I don't think light creatures can corrupt

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Dark creatures are natural

hardy vector
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Take a peek SkyRally

solar relic
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dark creatures aren't confirmed to be natural though

hushed steeple
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Even before the corruption of eden

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Then explain the grilled crabies

solar relic
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ark murals imply they could have been corrupted

hushed steeple
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Hm

solar relic
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though it really depends on your interpretation lol

hushed steeple
solar relic
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light creatures are confirmed to be naturally-occurring, but dark creatures are uncertain

hardy vector
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Annnnd

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If you would recall my words from 5 am Jojo

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The first encounters we the sky kids have with krills and dark whales are in areas effected by the EVENT

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Forrest Golden Wasteland Eden

solar relic
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krills and dark whales? or are they the same to you

hardy vector
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Hard to brain but yes. I think that whales are definitely a defector of the elder mantas

solar relic
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so the other realms aren't affected by the 'event'? (whatever it is)

hardy vector
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And the krills miiiight be an even more corrupted whale that has no light and that is why whales can drain your light but krills will actively search for light to eat

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Obviously all of sky civilization was effected by the cataclysm but Eden GW Forest are like

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Ground zero?

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It be like the sky equivalent of Chernobyl’s radiation

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Does that make sense? my brain is a lil fried rn SkyFaint

solar relic
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yeah, i can understand

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interesting theory pPopcorn though i would say we only see one 'defected' whale throughout the game, if there were more i think we'd see them all together

hardy vector
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Hmm true

ruby tapir
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Going through the beta Imgur albums was such a treat, I love this game even more than before pWow

hardy vector
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Did you see any whales

ruby tapir
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Just the ones we've already seen doglul

gilded fossil
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/whalesssss

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/hello friends

hushed steeple
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Hi lore peeps this phenomenon has been adressed many times before in lore chat

solar relic
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not everyone's been here before though

hushed steeple
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Most sky creatures possess the ability to phase thru walls at will... this means that they can turn intangible and back at will. This includes the krill... even if sky creatures have bones they can still phase thru things cuz that's how the whole thing works

solar relic
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which creatures phase through walls besides krills

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?

gilded fossil
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/boats can clip through wall

hushed steeple
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Mantas

gilded fossil
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/it not a creature

hushed steeple
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Crabs

ruby tapir
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Mantas on their way to kidnap me in Prairie

hushed steeple
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Butterflies

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Skids

gilded fossil
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/do butterflies clip?

hushed steeple
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Although skids r neutral

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/do butterflies clip?
@gilded fossil yup