#lore-discussion-spoilers
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What if, because our arrival, the clouds slowly dissipate
(Or whatever the word is-)
Dissipated?
Dissipate
its funny that rather than some settlers that repopulate the realms, its a bunch of kids
ive never seen this before
Frick it, dissolve
are the clouds a metaphor for undiscovered territory
Can be
If it's a bunch of kids it'd probably be less likely to fall into ruin again
Most likely, they are so-called war mist
Also we think of them as kids if we follow artificial theory they could be thousands of years old
/hiiii friends what we talking about
That too-
I just don't get it, are you a fellow homestuck
/hiiii friends what we talking about
@gilded fossil
@stone rivet hello too fellow homestucker
/maaaaaybe spoopy
Cause' / before every message isss...
/troll type quirk
Could you elaborate on that war mist btw I've only heard about that now XD
/anyways lmao lore
Military term
/troll type quirk
ive always thought whether it’s a typing quirk.. met some unusual typing folks before
u know what if sky bot is right
about how everythings gonna change bcjcix lore wise from what we know
cause prophecy looks like its tied heavily to the lore or somethings dxjndb idk i dont pay attention
I’m sure it’ll be fine! ..... Right?
thanks for jinxing us brophet-
what are you talking about
/skybot issnt canon
usually when someone says that something goes wrong almost immediately XD
yyyyep- plus even if that were true most of the stuff brophet says is vague enough to refer to stuff we already kind of knew
interesting
So about skykids... ever notice all the skykid shaped lanterns/shrines right before the point of no return? Ever notice that the meditation spots that return you to home are skykid statues? My theory is that skykids predate the catastrophe, and were divine messengers, like cherubim. They used statues to manifest in different realms to perform tasks for the elders.
psps did i miss something
ye thanks-
Skykids might be like derelict domestic robots that keep on running once their creators have all died out
scar/
When you say that I either think of Hollow Knight Vessels or Wall-E's-
Exactly
SkyKids more like hollow vessels cause we carry Light inside
So that could be a way that the winged light got scattered everywhere as well
Maybe each one was a skykid caught mid-task by the catastrophe
The stars iirc were confirmed to be remains of skids that died
There you go
Skids that died- then they wouldn't have been woken up from dormancy at the same time
man all those skid remains just flyin around Eden-
I think the ones closest to the eye have the most variety in their final posture
Like we need to carry their souls to the bodies
I wonder how many of the statues with the lanterns there are
It can't be enough to match anything meaningful
I'd go rn to check but I'm in the middle of class- sorry 😂

Now I am looking for the theory
Be patient
Like water lady
Trial is close to wasteland. All the water is actually radioactive or something.
This one
I said water trial’s water was made to kill instantly, someone said it only killed at chest area
A diamond just so happens to be there
I wonder how many of the statues with the lanterns there are
@dim maple 63
New theory! What if water sucks energy like dark crabs, dark shrimp, etc?
But does it very fast?
It prince too?
This has the energy of "If women no want, why she?"
By the side against diamond
Hey @hushed steeple, it looks like you shared an invite link in a public channel. Sky invites are single use and it's best to share them through DMs
Hey @pastel brook , nobody asked
Where did my invite go?
This nut deleted it
Is it possible to send a fiend invite on lore chat?
Omg i wrote fiend lmao
Or do u simply disagree with this server’s rules
Oh i didnt know...
U have been pinged with a clear message
U have been pinged with a clear message
@sly kestrel yes brophet said it was best... i wondered if i could make a "random" friend among the ppl i know if i wanted to....
Nvm imma go back to play sky...
Plz don’t use this chat as an opportunity to get free hearts from ppl, not only is that not allowed but that’s also not on topic for this channel
Ok bye....
Okay
@hushed steeple Asking for heart trades is against our server rules. Please remove your message
Ok....
who needs mods, skybot to the rescue!
I remember someone on here said that we don't die when falling or drowning in the trials because we have a single wl left
I counter that theory because when we start the game, we are wingless, once we got a single wl is when we get our first star and brown cape
So perhaps it's not winged light, but I don't have a theory as to what it actually is that keeps us going
Fire?
We do have the ability to set things on fire left
Only when we turn grey do we actually start to ‘die’
I will not cease saying that hearttrade ban is complete and utter bull.... because it's core mechanic of game
imagine rampant transactions in here … good riddance.
the trial is just weird. i dont want to agree with “the game is so merciful because we are powerful than spirits who are mortal beings”. on the other hand the trials are so ambiguous with whether they are simulations or for real life or death just not for us
Imagine if after the trials we wake up and the Elders go, ‘Hi you were in a coma’
In the end child wakes up and turns out it was just a dream elders are our family spirits are friends
@stone rivet You're welcome to leave your feedback in the appropriate channels, but lore chat is not the place. You can post in #live-feedback if you'd like to leave your opinions for the admins regarding the heart trade rule.
I know, that it will not be received, the only thing left is to scream into the void of this chat
And flying represents our growing
No, lore chat is not the appropriate place for that sort of thing. Please respect the space that others use to discuss lore theories.
We have our soul
So I thought up this really weird headcanon but..
Since Sky peeps/kids are technically made of light and flesh, wouldn't they be able to change their bodies to their will? 
Like using their light so they have 6 arms instead of 2, or have multi-layered capes to improve flight.
What if the resize potions/growth/shrink spells are helping us channel that form of light so we change size.
Imo if we had some "crazy researcher" as a spirit who could help us get 6 arms, cool cape and such, sky would be cool as hecc
Also ya wanna know where I got the headcanon of 6 arms from?
I legit got it from evɘ
ev?
Hmm maybe, although I still believe they’re made out of clay like little golems. Also 6 arms would be a nightmare for the devs to animate
But bigger cape
oh you can't see the backwards e can you?
It's meant to say eve 
But yeah with eve, in her fight she legit grows 4 more arms, and I got the thought of: "Wait, sky peeps are partially made of light, of which has no physical mass too it, therefore it should be able to change and morph at will." 

Wait what
Eve grows 4 arms-
Oh nvm i thought its biblical eve-
Also i know lights awaits is not canon anymore but
Hmmmmmmmmm
They are more specific in mentioning the prophecy its seems
huh
some darkness buds
we cant burn them
/yeaaa i was very dissappointed
Also i know lights awaits is not canon anymore but
@bitter shale 👁👁👁👁👁
but i think prophecy in scol would be about second coming of the child of light
Bonjour everyone, today's thought is: why is a winged light the prize when we finish the trials? Was it so that old spirits could get their cape?
because if the prize is only ability to walk on water would be dissapointing
Well I would love to walk on water in GW, that'd be a bless
i know but cannot say 
I've always asked myself why do some spirits have a cape while some don't, and yeah, probably just game mechanic for buying them but,,, unless?
it doesn’t seem the spirits made it through the trials alive tho
Maybe those who have it are those who've completed the trials- there are only four tho
Does it? We don't die when we "die" in the trials
what about the dead bodies in the murals ?
Mmh maybe represent all the attempts? But you're right, maybe that's not it
But why would they make a trial that would kill them tho 
i don’t think the trials were made by the spirits
Prob megan or the elders
i think they were made by/for something godly
Oooh
Wut is having a sad and wut is satanism?
not important
What
pyre’s asking about my status
Lol
Plz tell me wut it means
but yeah, i get « ancient thing that’s existed as long as we can remember, but we don’t know why it’s here » vibes from the trials
Yeah that's true actually
it’s not important pyre, if you care just look it up on google
Ok
Especially considering that they teleport you to another location and all
Somehow then I'm not sure about the elders making them, more like megan or something else
maybe this is my horror lover talking, but i get semi-sentient vibes from the elements and trials
these trials do not welcome us
they do not want us here
only through the manipulation of the prophets have the trials let us in
but will they let us out ?
0_0
That is,,, very good
Brick can you fill me on on what your talking about-
Welcome back!
we’re talking about the origins of the trials
So many prophets in this chat
i see them as semi-sentient and as a godly creation, likely a direct creation of megabird
Yeah, I can kinda see that.. esp considering the Earth trial wanting to make things harder by having the tower fly away lol
I mean why would you have floating ice platforms (trial of air) and have a floating maze on top of the vast ocean
Don't you have floating island in your backyard?
I-
Yes and that's in my imagination
i wouldnt be surprised if they were
@lethal stump sure it passes bricky its a multiplayer game.... its impossible to make time pass for some ppl and not for others
just because people move does not mean time passes
Yes
Tho the water moves, so do the rocks
And idk about the other trials
I wanna know more about this...
The trials are basically other realms
Basically deep poclet dimensions
movement ≠ time elapsing
But when we come out time has passed and ppl have done things....
There time itself does not exist
That's because we can't stop time irl lol
time has passed outside but not inside
Aka the trials don't want time to exist
it’s outside time and space, imo
things be working different in the trials
Yes Brick correct
If we go in before a ts comes its possible the ts will be here when we come out
that’s meta time
time has passed outside but not inside
@lethal stump oh u mean that.... ok
Oh it makes sense tho
im not big brain i just have an authoritative typing voice
I just misunderstood wut u said u know...

im not big brain i just have an authoritative typing voice
@lethal stump oh yes definitely u do know....
Wut kinda typing voice do i have guys?
How- how is it possible that we all know Brick is so strong when talking
Ikr...
the power of confidence
He's proper too
Is Brick actually a dev and we don't know
oh i wish
Wut kinda typing voice do i have guys?
Basically like a high ranked person
Guys...
Funky i think?
Anyone?
Funky?
Idk just my gut feeling
i always read you as sounding tired, pyre
Mhh I don't know you much but I'd say somehow a funny one, or very talkative
Funky? I dunno wut that means...
Yea funny
i always read you as sounding tired, pyre
@lethal stump whoa..... rlly?
And we all know Brick's typing voice
Mhh I don't know you much but I'd say somehow a funny one, or very talkative
@late canopy oh yeah thats the real me...
Brick sees right into your soul
Yeah he's just on top of everything
Res 
i see it's brick-discussion-spoilers rn
Yeah we're talking Brick lore
also
time
time in sky
i would explain it one way: jeremy bearimy (see image)
it’s not linear
it curves, it bends, there are isolated areas where time is stationary (see the dot over the i), etc.,
time in sky isn’t linear
The good place
yes
best show ever
this is how i see time in sky
Rlly?
let’s move on to lore, and stop talking about me, eh ?
It's how i see time in the trials and elder rooms as well
No that was my lore voice talking....
this is an expansion on how i see time in sky:
Time Loop Theory
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Anyway yes, I can totally see the time-space thing happening in the trials
Kinda looks like cursive writing
cause it is Kokichi
Really?
I don't know how to do cursive
Elder rooms sure but my view of the trials is more like a matrix kinda thing u know... or a hallucination in divergent
So what does it say? Enlighten me please
« Jeremy Bearimy »
also
time
time in sky
i would explain it one way: jeremy bearimy (see image)
it’s not linear
it curves, it bends, there are isolated areas where time is stationary (see the dot over the i), etc.,
time in sky isn’t linear
is this a hitchiker's guide to the universe reference?
Like vogel in dirk gently
Well how i see time in the trials is like: The trials are a pocket dimension and time and space itself cannot pierce through its surrounding
is this a hitchiker's guide to the universe reference?
@kind bobcat its a the good place reference
Amd it curves/stretches time
Also heard something similar in interstellar
anyways, the existence of pocket dimensions confirms brick's explanation of Sky time.
There are spaces in which the timeline is isolated from the main timeline
Yehey people are supporting my theory
The elder cutscenes have been confirmed to take place outside space and time.
Tru, tho aren't the realms actually "close" to each other?

They are collegated
and the fact that both the elder cutscenes and the trials are in the V O I D makes me think they’re all outside space & time
The Void™
Elder cutscenes r in the void?
also the individual realms are connected yes
oh yeah when you oob to them it’s just a black nothingness surrounding you
good angst fuel 
oh no
Yea
and the fact that both the elder cutscenes and the trials are in the V O I D makes me think they’re all outside space & time
@lethal stump but voids can be easily generated anywhere... if it not sky's real life

Ugh i just thought of something that might have solved sky
what brick probably meant by void is a completely empty dimension
But now i can't remember
Kokichi you-
It was just a few seconds ago-
devoid of other structures other than the ones built

Ok I can't remember
All hope is lost

If the trials r a computer program, an illusion, or a hallucination or a myriad of other things, anywhere with nothing in it is a void and looks like a void and feels like a void
Or,, it's another dimension
It's a pocket dimension
Yes one of the myriad of other things
Plz read the myriad of other things part
Have the devs ever confirmed any theory?
Some prob
why can’t the myriad of other things include being a/in a void 
Guys i have a question for the lore channel
The devs hate confirming stuff
If we have a theory then
Will the devs confirm
Guys i have a question for the lore channel
@hushed steeple oh yes plz let the question assume game mechs r lore...
also
time
time in sky
i would explain it one way: jeremy bearimy (see image)
it’s not linear
it curves, it bends, there are isolated areas where time is stationary (see the dot over the i), etc.,
time in sky isn’t linear
Lol the good place fan spotted
I love the "severah people are typing"
also not directly, but sometimes they’ll give little emojis or do a bit of « warmer colder » game with our theories
Ooh
but it would defeat the purpose of lore being vague if they confirmed our thoughts
Keeping us on the edge
the devs can't confirm or give us full on lore as they're not allowed to, we'll get proper lore in-game as they see fit
God i thought u wrote warhammer my heat jumped and then sank....
also not directly, but sometimes they’ll give little emojis or do a bit of « warmer colder » game with our theories
@lethal stump
We'll just have to keep digging then
do see the third pinned of this channel by ktjn regarding this
although the one thing that sets the trials apart from the V O I D in the elder pocket dimensions is one thing: a light source
They're so cute
Oh we have an emoji of the handsome guide
Ok lets stay on track now
man the elders really must be real de-lighted about their dimensions
the elder V O I D S are entirely black, but the trial V O I D S have something that seems like a sun
d
does sky even have LED technology ?
No we r trapped in a room with a single LED
I don't even know what's going on know-
Ok so we're trapped in a LED
@hushed steeple
d
does sky even have LED technology ?
@lethal stump diamonds i guess
I feel like i go to lore chat just to fry my brain
diamonds ≠ LED
diamonds don’t give off light, and if they do it far weaker than an LED
Exactly
I don't even know what's going on know-
@hushed steeple we dont have theories so we r studying bricky and making jokes and tryijg to convince ourselves we r doing summin produstive
Brick is our source
Of knowledge
He is?
don’t rely on me, my braincell is a dvd screensaver bumping around in my head and when it hits the corner i get A Thought™️
Fine let rely on Megan is everything theory
though for every pixel he moves we get 15 terabytes of angst
Trial is Megan

My idea of lore chat: sky is the burger, and bricky is chocolate and the rest of us r candy bars... we generally go for the burger but some times we eat a bit 9f chocolate and somethimes we eat the candy
Nah i go for the chocolate idk abt y'all
Fine let rely on Megan is everything theory
@hushed steeple lets be optimistic... its not code red yet...
I feel like im the one who created that theory
Well I don't remember
it was part of canon at one point
although it only referred to creatures, not land masses iirc
all the creatures in sky were connected to the megabird at some point, according to concepts
abandon the megan is everything theory
since apparently "unnatural death" can happen and is the only thing that prevents light creatures from being reborn
We are all one and one is us all.
U know in the first how to train your dragon movie there is a hive with the green death(?) Inside? Maybe its like that for megan but in a happy utopian way
Ima go
Green death is the books isn’t it ?
eh w/e
but are you basically saying hive mind ?
A hive mind theory is interesting 
Its just an alpha...
A hive mind theory is interesting
@kind bobcat yes it kinda is...
megan the interstellar usurper
But if its right
A little thought i had after finishing earth trial & seing rocks floating, that could suggest that after the spirits finished an elements trial they gain control over it & harvest its power for their good & further proving that is enchaintment spirits that we saw using elements powers, this could potentially be the goal of the trials🤔
Yea... the qg does that...
but the spirits died during the trials
they didn’t make it out alive
as we see in the second mural
Ok imma go and watch netflix hopefully that will give me new theories
but the spirits died during the trials
they didn’t make it out alive
as we see in the second mural
@lethal stump and yes
Hmmm they don't make it?
How about the prophets maybe they have control over the natural elements
Or maybe the villagers just weren't cable enough & civilizations that followed like enchaintment did?
i would say something but the stars are not aligned
Why do you think water starts appearing & rocks start floating when we finish trials why did that happen as a result?
must
say
nothing
Does it mean we gained control over these elements?
In enchaintment they used the power of elements to restore a place but here its just mysterious
Since this is apparently a primitive old civilization wich is the villagers that have stones & basic materials used this could mean these were there first tries of controlling natural elements & making water appear & rocks float
And regular spirit's had some possessions so no power for them

It's all quiet strange but there definitely has to be a bigger meaning for the trials & i'm getting acient old early days primitive experiments vibes from this
Im getting throw out unworthy vibess
@lethal stump The mural does not necessarily have to mean death during trial. It could also mean you can only master one! And the mural may represent a burial ritual that differentiated based on which element the deceased could master.
Have all of you read the doc yet? You all seem like new faces here
they have
could be, sheorun. but imo the first thing i think of when i see bodies of mortals laying sideways in challenges i have personally died in multiple times, i’m gonna assume they died
Yes of course there's both possibilities. Just the way they lie there makes me think of graves
Hmmm... any of y’all have thoughts as to why those ppl went through those trials in the first place?

hubris was my first thought
I'd say it was part of the learning process to master an element
Like we see the spirits outside clearly instructing pupils
Right where there are four doors for each element
All of this space reminds me of a teaching environment
hogwarts, the trials are an advanced form of the sorting hat


The reason why those ppl may have went through the trials and died... may be a lot more obvious than you realise-
In any case I don't think the trials are godgiven. I rather see them as an instrument to learn a core skill for mastering an elment. Referring also to that little text snippet you get when mastering a trial.
Like first you get instructed by a teacher until you reach a certain skill level. As a next step you need to master the trial providing you with a core skill needed. And then an element could be mastered.
As I said, there’s a specific reason why these trials are hard, and I don’t think it’s training. Ppl literally died doing the trials.
The answer may be a lot more obvious than y’all realise, lol
Yep
i'd like to think those ancestors aren't dead they are just ✨embracing the floor✨ in defeat

/henlooooo guysss what we be talkin??
Why ppl went through the trials and died
/ooooh
/pants
Lmao
pants
im sticking by hubris
the trials are not of this earth, there’s something powerful within them. thus the ancestors were sent to complete and find this power. but it was not meant for them
/candles tho
Ppl get greedy sometimes that it cost their life.
This is a hint.
/power??/
I just wonder why there is so much emphasize on the elements here. I mean we haven't seen much element activity so far.
i mean... enchantment 
Oh really? Is that so?
/you're saying getting hit by rocks aint it
Yes enchantment did introduce a little bit but actually it was rather restoring the Ark to it's former glory than clearly spirits controlling elements to me
/eehhhhhhh???
i see what you’re doing butter
/ yall not spoiling tho???
I’m not spoiling
me who's slow and didn't see what happened: 👁️👄👁️
This doesn’t count as spoiling as I’m not telling y’all of beta or anything


I wonder how similar our theories are Brick...
Are we both theorising the same thing?
braincell hasn’t hit the corner of my head yet
Lol
/soooo flying rocks huhhhhh
/hmmmmmmm

Lol
We only have 2 puzzle pieces. It’s still hard to guess even with what we’ve currently got
Flying rocks are something else
May be related, can’t say, but not really that connected with trials
/yep boop
Jen just pointed out flying rocks kinda seems like an elemental thing, which was why I said they were getting closer
Boop is right about the first bit. The reward is larger than life. At least for those Ancestors
/the power diamonds???
/orbit!
/orbit's pretty hard to get through, only spirits there
/kinda like how only mutirs (how to spell-) gets to stay in heaven?
/something i cant spell
/aaaah that
/no no like the ones died for a cause
/whats the word it's starts with a m
/oops yea martyrs tho
/they want the prize
/orbit do be cool tho
i heard a great call ring out in the skies...is it....the prophecy?
I think the "prophecy" is an important point. It could have been a kind of religion they believed in and strived for.
@pastel brook that call was the girl from office, shut up
I think the prophecy is what the narrator of the opening cutscene was talking about.
"if only they had listened"
Could be.
Maybe yes. The caves are also called "Cave of Prophecy" for a reason
And there clearly was some kind of teaching involved
/big magic people!
B U F F magic people
/maaaaybe
yes
Als0 m3ss3d 3l3m3nts
/i cant read that sorry ?
"also messed elements" jen
/aaaah
Why they doing trials?
The big hints are:
The reward is as valuable as life
And flying rocks....
/this tho
/eh let your theory be gummy and chewy
I'm really getting messed elements vibe here
Ye that elders did in fact complete ttials and gain power but messed it up which resulted in realm hazards
Forest=water etc.
/is forest water?
/the element usually drawn next to tree in the murals and such are fire
Hiya folks im back
Wut r we talking about
Im back....
Lore chat is sneeping...
Imma go play sky
/yaaaal
/i was think how vault sorta not exist
/and the trials sorta not exist
/and in the earth trial and in the archives place the seems to be sth/someone very big destroying things?
/i bet it's the whale, whale can go into these new dimension things and be wrecking stuff
Trials ≠ in our realm
/i bet it's the whale, whale can go into these new dimension things and be wrecking stuff
I don't think it's a whale-
Other than the oddly specific shaped hole in that one wall, are there any other broken parts of the trial?
Well, maybe that bit was meant to be broken...
Its about tenacity and resilience afterall...
But I guess someone did it for us
I just said, maybe its meant to be broken...
Is it really playing dirty if there's no other way out?
/i say whale
Well, maybe that bit was meant to be broken...
Its about tenacity and resilience afterall...
But I guess someone did it for us
I say prince
likely the first col
Is whale a person or an actual animal
/who would want to trap ppl in there
Prob the first col was the prince
Do... you all really have a grudge on the Prince..? 
/who would want to trap ppl in there
The prophets
Psst hey @neat fractal, I heard there's a prophet somewhere that's very shy, but you didn't hear it from me 
the prophet of earth i bet
i bet the ancestors were like: "hey, what happens if we explode that wall?"
"ain't that cheating— hold up what is that door???"
"see, cheating is always the answer!"
I think its meant to be broken
Whoever did that probably raged and punched the walls to get out
Because Earth Trial is about tenacity and resilience
What's tenacity
Resilience is the only wisdom it says at the end when you finish it
me : i... almost... there
the tower with wl : start flying
me : are you flipping kidding me
tenacity means something similar to resilience iirc
Whoever did that probably raged and punched the walls to get out
/Fire boi!
whahaha res-ilience
res no
res YES
Maybe getting to the ende no matter wuat was the point and so the wall was designed so that it could be broken and the spirits just randomly blew a wall and voila?
i bet the ancestors were like: "hey, what happens if we explode that wall?"
"ain't that cheating— hold up what is that door???"
"see, cheating is always the answer!"
Why can I see forest mama and prairie papa doing this
I was thinking teth and tsadi... not teth and ayin
Prairie is a sleepy boi, so I don't think they would
But wasteland elder? Probs yes
what if its the valley twins instead
they would busy arguing which one will hop first
Valley twins would jump over all the walls prob they dont need to blow holes in em
Well, I think they dont always argue, but...
rivalry
Well, I think they dont always argue, but...
@thin dirge let me introduce u to apollo and artemis...
I still think its meant to be broken still
Me 2
maybe tho one who build it just gave up on building it and let the hole exist
/construction dud: uh boss we dont have enough cement
'frick this im not get paid enough to build this labirynth'
/boss: eeeeeeh just leave it
if that were the case they could have probably would have used caveman braincell and smash through all the walls 
resilience and stubbornness 
im sorry jen-
In this case, prob yes
stubbornness is the « bad » side of resilience
Pushing on no matter wut and finding roads where none exist..... wow that actually sounded wise...
If not for the internet shorthand...
i am 🐌
should we do the negative side of the trials
water : patience / stillness (uhhh idk the word)
earth : resilience / stubborness
Idleness
Yeah
Huh why idleness
Sloth
no not laziness... more like hestitation
Nah, I think idleness fits more here
Huh why idleness
@neat fractal cuz stillness
Ooh, hesitation-
What is stillness
no not laziness... more like hestitation
@bitter shale oh yes
idk either-
/passiveness
hestitation would fit more
OH YES PASSIVENESS
Yesyes
/ thanks english teacher
Yup rocky
’wait for it’ starts playing
keep kalm and watch everything burn
Patience helped me so much in Earth Trial
It did?
Yep
i just jumped around in panic
A lot
Rushing was the key in my earth trial
/is the trials in a specific order
I even had to wait for the platforms to be in the right position
Hello there fellow lore enthusiasts~
/so that we better prepared
stop rotating stop rotating aaa AAAAAaaaaAAAA
When I tried rushing, it took me more than an hour. When I waited, took me about 20 mins-
Which did u try first?
me : i dont have time for this
jumped on wrong platform and died
me : frick
/ah, a bit on the seasonal chat side tho
True
/anyways
When u decide to rush u rush like the world is ending... then the timing gets right...
Oh bacc to lore
okay but what kind of genius design this area and call its a good idea to let children goes inside
you can even see in the mural
I only rush when the platforms just so happens to rotate in the right position-
Anway, back to lore
okay but what kind of genius design this area and call its a good idea to let children goes inside
@bitter shale let me introduce u to dedalus and king midas
oh yea dedalus-
/patience with flexibilty
also that mythology about half human half... cow??? that got trapped in the maze by his own father
/sounds like an ad
also that mythology about half human half... cow??? that got trapped in the maze by his own father
@bitter shale yup midas was the king and dedalus was the architect
I had to move a bit just to stay on balance on the rotating rocks whilw waiting for the next platform to rotate in place-
/minotaur guy, Flos?
Yup
oh yea minotaur!
/okay but how that fits into the resilience thing
tbh idk yet
/is resilence advance patience
Yeah
Guysguysguys i have a wonderful theory!!!!!super breakthru... u wanna hear?
/yea do share then?
Ok here goes
Plz dont inturupt plz
So the prophets did summin bad
So they were imprisoned in the trials like the minotaur
The deciples tried to free them but they all died
But then
Shinyboi aka the prince comes along
And saves all the prophets
bruh i totally knew this was gonna happen
Wut?!
/bruh skybot
Oh yeah thats it for my theory
That's a really good theory!
/shiny boi save us
Ooooh theory extension...
Here goes
i think tha makes sense!
we always asking why those spirits died, and we always thought it because eden went mental
but what if not all spirit got killed by the boom? what if some of them died cause of another reason?
Daleth, who had been rooting for the prophets all along secretly cheers.... alliance with the prophets was prob the reason for the banishment of daleth and then when shinyboi saves the prophets daleth brings them into the fold, rebels against the rest of the elders and the prince is now the king...
Oh yes
Sky is so much like 40k.....
and yet its still bugged me... why their spirits didnt gathered in the trial place or at least in the cave? why they all scattered accros the 6 realms?
I bet one of the story guys is a fan of 40k and subconsciously modeled sky after the eldar...
Clouds r good
Always
Hey guys i have a new cloud theory
Wanna hear?
Ok here goes...
So these clouds in forest r not toxic and they recharge us and they keep us from falling like if u fly in citadel but water doesnt act like this in sky.....
So i was thinking
The mural about the fire in cop
Wut if clouds r a form of fire
Thats fluffy
And like a magic smoke
And white instead of grey
Ok thats it for the theory
Feel free to comment
My big brain has this habit of hiding behind my smol brain in the day and then coming out at night...
So the fire element creates the clouds in Forest...
@hushed steeple yes
And those clouds spread to be everywhere
Then that would change the reason why there's a fire element in forest
@hushed steeple also its obvious.... how do we make campfires and bonfires? With wood from a forest... so...
Wut is a boop?
/what?
Boop is on trial...
Wuts a boop?
Oh yeah...
But if fire is there cuz of light... the diamonds should have been made in prairie dont u think?
Cuz butterfly jars n mantas n stuff
/we do see butterfly jarrs being transported to foresst in murals
Oh yes
we see no evidence of diamonds being made in prairie
prairie just collects the light units for diamonds
Nvm i just realized they mine darkstone in forest
they mine light in forest
we see no evidence of diamonds being made in prairie
prairie just collects the light units for diamonds
@lethal stump i was previously saying wouldnt it have been more natural for diamonds to have been made by prairie
Hmmm maybe because Forest auntie built the first diamond factory, it corrupted the good meaning of fire and used it as a way to progress technology at the cost of nature.
Kinda like how the Fire Nation lost the true meaning of their fire bending.
@hushed steeple oh yea.... the fire nation is stupid in many ways.... the have modern armoured warships but they use catapults... the earth kingdom has heavy tanks but they still use cavalry they try to hit large flying targets things with magonels it
rlly is hard to fathom how they managed to get so far in the war...
thats...unrelated, pyre
not important
/so where's the sewage system in the water trials
Its a matrix...
it’s the trial breathing 
new crackpot theory : water trial area is actually an alive being and its breathing
i think all the trials are alive
Knowing Sky.
Yes
earth trial is dead to me
Earth trial is playing Among Us and is casually ejecting doors to space
/water trial seems pretty sus
gravity is wacky there
whoever invented this part got an instant vote from me
/can the earth trial dust itself of
Of course
/ooop spoilers for saturday
By throwing rocks on another rock
sorry-
/ wait you werent here when i reveal myself???
no im not-
:/
/ice?
the path to each races
/oooh it's not connected
flying race take place in the clouds...
Hey guys what’s the name of Alef twin ?
Mhm
/oooh
@stuck lily who is alef
the twins are collectively known as samekh
/i seee you be different sky community
alef is the name of the prince/uncorrupted king
I think they are referring to samekh
/daleth and samekh tho
people are saying they have names and idk what they are :<
/in some communities
people are saying they have names and idk what they are :<
/friend, you dont need to know everyone calls them different
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
while its worng but who am i to correct them-
/ daleth fangirling tho
afterall there is nothing wrong here
oooh that makes so much sense its the jewish alphabet right?
yes edit: hebrew sorry
/hebrew
Uh huh
sry lol
/oop sorry
i don't know how some communities ended up calling the twins alef and daleth but yes
those are the names taken directly from concept art
indeed
no u were right its hebrew lol
/also
Who is prince and who is king
/loooooore moofffffff docccccc
oh boy
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[credits to bricko]
/is bricky here
this the king
/king is tall
Damn he tall
Wow thats pretty short
what's king's role?
Being a king
/ we dont know!!!!!
Hey guys i just found out how to make a custom status and u guys prob know me best.... so wut should it be?
read the doc i just send 
Who is prince tho
/feel free to theorize!!!!
the prince
/and argue!
I'm new to the whole lore thingy so that doc will be useful!
Oh ok
/and read lore moff doc!
K
Trial why you always put / infront of your sentence
tysm I understand now
/maybe it;s a homestuck thing anyways bacc to lore
Just link the message 
brick is a bit preoccupied rn should i send it again
so megan was a secret oob lol
/hmmm?
the megabird
Oof
/no not megan, i mean which oob is it?
Mega bird is not a oob 👁️
/megan only seen in-game no oob
It's there intentionally
/yall need lore moff doc again?
ooh ok
/spaghetti
haha m o p
Indeed
hey uh guys
i think i figured out why elders were turning out so huge whenever we tried to measure them
/eeeeh???
Angles
unpopular opinion:
I see the King as the "God" of Sky world. The Prince is a seperate entinty but the same with the King at the same time. I see the Prince as the one who maybe had interaction with beings from Sky World. I see the King more like giving mission to the Prince. Like the Prince is the one who does King's biddings but at the same time wants to do King's desires. That kinda makes him the same with the Kings but he isn't the King. The Prince and the King know each other unlike other beings. I see Megabird as an energy that flows through any being except for dark creatures. Light is the energy that flows everywhere and is given as a gift by Megabird. Megabird maybe was said to give Light to creatures because the King told them to.
Interesting
I can explain better If someone is interested. Questions are very welcomed.
Megabird maybe the Holy Spirit?
would the prince be some sort of ambassador then?
Tree of life where 👁️
By that saying I mean that maybe TGC was inspired by religions and philosophy of reality's world.
/can megan talk
this might get a bit lengthy
basically, we were basing our measurements to irl on an image of an award on TGC’s desk in the office
but when measuring things in game, we didnt make up for the resolution of the picture
thus images had more/less pixels thus making them bigger/smaller than they’re actually supposed to be
i did some quick measurements of the elders while making up for the resolution and it’s coming out not stupidly tall but not stupidly short
for example, teth is about 198.12 cm
/can megan talk
@cobalt flare not in the way we hoomans do probably, but they(megabird) probably can if they want to. idk.
198.12 damn i'm scared
/still taller than me bricky
. Wots that in feet I dont feel like converting lol
6.5 ft
Scary
Think that's almost two doorknobs high
Middle school ruler? 👁️
/ wait middle school ruler is probably a my country thing, uhh, 25cm ruler
I also wanted to say that the King is kinda disappeared.
Another theory is that the Prince maybe rebelled against the King(but I dint like this theory).
... How big is 25 cm?
i hope to return with more elder measurements
/bricky you sound like a magician
Teth 198cm damn can be a Olympic champion 
Who’s teth
Forest mama is tol
3.08 ft?
My skid is 110cm toll
Lmao
do we have lore to explain the Home trick? 👉 👈
I think bricky’s skid is about height of a 6 year old
even teth is taller than me-
do we have lore to explain the Home trick? 👉 👈
@rancid phoenix yes lets explain game mechs with lore!!!
i haven't seen any home trick theories or any similar theories afaik but you can make one

Ok home trick.... i have a theory
mhm~?
U r preparing to go home right? Which means that the winged lights r holding on tight for the teleportation and so its impossible for the krill to knock the wl out
Alternate theory:
Krill tries to home run you but you have home button activated therefore he krill only run you
When u yell at the krill that u wanna go home the krill is scared that they will be alone and lonely again so the krill hits u but doesnt knock out your wl cuz the krill is going easy on u... kinda like how hugging works
Krill tries to home run you but you have home button activated therefore he krill only run you
@livid valley huh?
Huh?
Huh?
I don't get it meowphecy...
maybe the krills can attack u only when u look at them in the eyes. so when u do home trick u look down.
(i dont like this theory😑)
Yes its disprovable...
You know how there's a home run in baseball? So the krill is trying too get a homerun by hitting you, but only "runs you" because home is taken out of the sentance(because you're pressing the home button)
Even if your back is turned the krill can krill u
cuz there were times when thr krill hits u-
that is what i was about to say i-
You know how there's a home run in baseball? So the krill is trying too get a homerun by hitting you, but only "runs you" because home is taken out of the sentance(because you're pressing the home button)
@true root ohhhh so it was a joke....
/why krill do the krillin tho
i would add that the light surrounding u protects and when it gets smaller it takes u to home.
/why krill do the krillin tho
@gilded fossil they do be dark...
They wanna get to the juicy wl inside your cold hard crust so they hit u and shake u and eventually the wl pops out...
yes but why do they want to do that?
/do you like, shrink so that you can better teleport to other places
what are their motives?
/gatorade
/do you like, shrink so that you can better teleport to other places
@gilded fossil u expressed that better but i didnr want to say shrink.
/the skid are gatorade and krill want to drink
Dark creatures wanna take your light and other creatures' light
Dark creatures wanna take your light and other creatures' light
@hushed steeple why?
/what's the word then delph
/the skid are gatorade and krill want to drink
@gilded fossil then why do the wl fall and arent being picked up by the krills?
@hushed steeple why?
@hushed steeple i dunno pls ask tgc
this is what i meant by asking motives pyre.
They confirmed it
they confirmed what?
I thought tgc confirmed dark creatures wanna take light creatures' light
/what's the word then delph
@gilded fossil i'll stick for now with the word shrink
They did?
then why do the wl fall and arent being picked up by the krills?
@hushed steeple/the gatorade is not the winged light duh
/ah
what is the gatorade then?
/an energy drink, this is a crackpot theory
it makes sense if they do wanna take the light.that is what i was thinking but i stopped believeing this when i saw that the krills and krebs dont pick up the wings. idk.
i know its an energy drink. how can this be explained in the game as a metaphor?😭
@gilded fossil then why do the wl fall and arent being picked up by the krills?
@hushed steeple its too smol and they dropped it...
it makes sense if they do wanna take the light.that is what i was thinking but i stopped believeing this when i saw that the krills and krebs dont pick up the wings. idk.
@hushed steeple first its an analogy
so they dont wanna tske thr light and maybe eat it.
i know its an energy drink. how can this be explained in the game as a metaphor?😭
/it's what keeps skids going.honestly i havent think of it that far
what do u mean?
Second the analogy would be the krill is a pigeon, the skid is a bottle, wl is the gatorade and the pigeon wants to drink the tatorade but it spills the gatorade all over the place and they cant pick it up
/the eden diamond is red bull, skids are gatorade, we compete with red bull, we save the world that's it i guess
using the word metaphor isnt that wrong. but using the word analogy is better indeed.
Yes
SKY: BEVERAGES OF...
help me lel
/lmaaaao boooop
Manta juice for the manta god!
guys do we actually enter the eye of eden?
It should be blood for the blood god, skulls for the skull throne
by saying eye of eden i mean that pink-red one diamond
if i am mistaken pls correct me kindly.
/we dont know sorry delph
guys do we actually enter the eye of eden?
@hushed steeple let me introduce u to the big gate over there.... deph, edengate.eden gate, delph.
/but
i understand thst we dont tho
/eye of the storm is the most peaceful place

I noticed new emojis!!!

so smol