#lore-discussion-spoilers
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what does it look like now?
@willow shoal like this
I wonder why they moved off the mountain
@willow shoal like this
@grand swift oh man, that’s from the previous livestream?
They went from a similar concept of a city that looks like Atlantis, which makes sense given the sea creatures, and then they moved the entire thing on a mountain afterwards
Very strange
I don't like how sky creatures were purposefully used and killed/sacrificed to get light
the dragon and the phoenix is on the same tier in terms of divinity, so if megabird is the incarnate of the Phoenix, it does not really make much sense for the dragon to be inferior
What's up with the eden spirit
@still valve like in journey with the underwater stage and guardians?
I never played journey
I think diamonds are made from darkness since they absorb light- so maybe (well, based on some other person theory or Manatas being Krills cause of the corruption) the Mantas accidentally ate the diamonds and became krills? Eh- I suck at making theories haha
Well in forest we literally saw the Elder craft a diamond from light so idk how that theory holds up
Oh yeah
At least that's what I think
Mantas was corrupted from the crystals so they became light hungry krills, thats why they attack players and eat winglight
In the beta of Enchantment the krill in the Ark used to be a dark manta
krills are actually small imo
But then they changed it back into a krill
@still valve oh the darkness manta?
brrr
The 3d model of it was also meant to be the final boss at eden but they scrapped it
I've seen it before but I cant mention where
3d model?
Even if the diamonds are made of light, they do still absorb it, so the rest could still hold up
@hushed steeple yes they created the 3d model of a darkness manta
it looked pretty cool ngl
wha
Wanna see now-
Mmmm maybe I can find it
But for some reason they changed it back into a krill 🤔
@hushed steeple well the only evidence of it was taken down
Agghhh
Aw
The only reason you would do that is if it doesn’t match the lore of something
Galaxy mantas from valut looks somewhat like the krills they have alot of leg thingy
also
That’s true-
The darkness manta worked exactly like a krill
like this?
when it noticed you
Oh I saw a vid of it
Woahhh
Corrupted fish woah
@icy spruce where is the vid-
Woah fish-
I think the evolving process goes like this:
Mantas -> Dark Mantas -> Krills
@bitter shale it got taken down
What about the ghost mantas?
aw
i think it’s corrupted creature we see in orbit
sry
its okie
Chinese folk tales have 4 god beasts, and they have different names and looks
they are all actually mount(this is not the right word, someone please find a better one) of higher divine figure
The ghost mantas are only in vault, so I would assume they only exist in the dream state
Dream state??
Think of it as a file getting corrupted during the transfer
well vault is more like acid trip
johnny, how do you say 坐骑 in english?
True
For some reason mantas in the dream state are ghost/galaxy mantas
memory whisperer
@willow shoal
again ignore this if its already answered a billion times but
forest temple is the same as wasteland second area entrance w/ same buildings
not only buildings and that ramp ia also there
It could be another forge or the same exact area, but again we don’t know what’s real and what’s not anymore with the dream states and such
saddle animals
sounds a bit weird but ok
Ride?
mantas are cute
I’m gonna go eat now, talking about lore for 3 hours has made me hungry
johnny, how do you say 坐骑 in english?
@hushed steeple
I think it’s mount but I’m using a translator -w-
have a nice meal(?
does anyone know the name of the song that plays in the WL elder cutscene
no, it is like if you are riding a horse
what do you call the horse
it is your "what"
马
a mount animal
Old ones better but new one is somewhat has connections with the whole "Light Nation" thing
well, that's concept art, isn't it? it was bound to change
if the dream scape AND the gw and forest are same place theory hold true then wheres valley and whys all the other mantas normal except vault
Hey, guys, I think there's another tone that play's a lot in the game, no it's not the 2 which res found
i think memory mantas are literally memories
okay but the last trial showed on the last seconds in the teaser looks familiar
like non volatile memory, then the memory lanterns are like RAM, and the summit of the vault is when we actually booted up
Umm, if you could listen to "flight" from 00:07.
This is in a lot other pieces that play throughout our journey
apparently memory in the future are holographic
huh i see
what about eden xD
this is a theory from long ago, where i conjectured vault is a computer of some sorr
sort*
so we literally boot up the computer every time
and the final message it contains is Lamed's cutscene
ooo
then the computer halts and crash
we exit the simulation to the real vault
eden
Eden spirit hmmm
Lamed’s cutscene??
The elder
Where is the screenshoots from ???
That’s the elders name??
i am building this on too of Oz's theory that the vault is the pavilion in eden from some other timeframe,
top*
Isle: Daleth (ד)
Prairie: Ayin (ע)
Forest: Teth (ט)
Valley: Samekh (ס)
Wasteland: Tsadi (צ)
Vault: Lamed (ל)
Prince: Alef (א)
King: Resh (ר)
PLEASE NOTE: These names have appeared in concept art and are often used when referring to the elders. They are no longer canon, they are fanon.
Trial of Fire is in fire!
the power is in you, @willow shoal
Ohhh
Is beta stuff allowed here???? Since fire trial is not live!
yea
we exit the simulation to the real vault
@hushed steeple so you are saying eden is real?
Whatever is beta but not in a teaser for live is not allowed
just not the gameplay
Yea
@hushed steeple so you are saying eden is real?
no, just that the vault is in eden
I believe eden is at summit
So what are the art or screenshoots above !!
@odd wasp Tom’s website
The vault summit is visible from eden social space
summit of vault is in eden entrance tho
Yeah that
eden is at frontline of darkness and the light
look at pins,please
see Oz's screenshot
The entire sky realm makes sense in some way except valley. Why is valley in the place it is? It is a jolly and vibrant place in between 2 realms that are taken over by darkness to their own extents

valley probably has secret we haven't found, something deep
Valley is like rome arena i think
Valley is like rome arena i think
@devout topaz But why would it exist between 2 realms that have been consumed by darkness
well, valley was kinda the city of sky, wasteland was a factory, and i imagine forest used to be a vibrant place until something happened (im assuming something with a factory)
Another old person??
Kinda far up someone mentioned Valley could be a shiny distraction for Megan
Looks like Albert Einstein
Is that einstein?
what if each realm is covered in a distinct form of darkness
isolation -> isle
and so on
prairie ????
Maybe valley is protected by a mystical spell that we haven't learnt of yet?
Similar to what protects the knowledge in the vault?
Maybe darkness fear from ice!!
i got to go, i will be back to finish
Valley is like military or something, people train in two types of training tasks, and it is well defended so its not corrupted by darkness
What if we are a reincarnation of the eden elder? In the intro cutscene, the surrounding 6 stars fall to the sky, but the central one representative of eden never does. The central one is shown directly falling onto the ground and taking the form of our skykid
Wouldn’t waste be well defended to? I’m just going off the fact that the Waste Elder looks like a warrior
Wasteland was impacted by the eden explosion imo
Eden exploded??
gotta go now i need to sneep, happy loring guys
Everything was impacted imo, you even see darkness plants in isle. Except valley, the only way valley staying intact is the assumption that it is protected by some spell
That would make sense
looks at deadly storms and debris on eden
yeha pretty sure it exploded one time ago
XD
Eden exploded??
@hushed steeple The diamond fracture in storm lock is an explosion of what was supposed to be the most advanced diamond forgery
Well, there are dark plants in Valley. Just in the Valley Maze only though-
Ohhh
Yeah I'm not counting those plants in valley lol
I- ok-
How do you think they got there?
Apart from that, valley is very bright and joyous, unlike forest with it's dark plants and acidic rain and wasteland with, well everything
Valley's skating race has something similar when you about to respawn after eden
Yeah, the jellyfish one
I told them that
Yeah I said excluding that part
And they said that
Ohhhk👍
Whyyy is it only in the maze?
Valley was added only for the cool elder hair hehe
Mmm maybe.
._.
Since elder are so big tos go inside those tunnels for maintaining
You have darkness in prairie bruh
Yea, shrines
Guys
And sanctuary too, which I can't burn for some reason 
Sad
I have a important question
Inagine Forest elder jumping in water trial
So what potential theories have y'all come up with based on the recent release of the new season?
I-
I did one Im too lazy to type again
Where does the boat goes from the wasteland shipwrech??
Huh
So what potential theories have y'all come up with based on the recent release of the new season?
@reef plover I could say I lot I've interpreted from the beta but that's not allowed
I mean from which the spirits escaeo
Prophercy has some beef in between elders based on skybot's quote
Ahh in the spirit cutscene you mean?
Hmm idk really, but maybe forgotten ark?
So what potential theories have y'all come up with based on the recent release of the new season?
@reef plover
But my theory basically went like Elders passing the trials and messing up respective elements
Forest water
Valley air
Gw earth
Prairie fire
why eden
Well, I've seen this theory in youtube that Isle was the first one to come down and something about Isle choosing the prophets and becoming Isle's diciples and then with their power, they created the cave of prophecies. Didnt remembered much but it was something like this
@stone rivet You'll see
@wild crescent why eden is messed fire tell me i prolly saw it
@icy spruce that was the Thory i gave hours ago😂
You might have seen it, others haven't
You might have seen it, others haven't
@wild crescent DM?
Adiõs
@reef plover
But my theory basically went like Elders passing the trials and messing up respective elements
Forest water
Valley air
Gw earth
Prairie fire
@stone rivet
I would rearrange the elements to match what was associated in enchantment. The 'fire" light quest was in forest and it's depicted fire amongt the trees in the murals in prophecy as your walking in.
So imo forest=fire
The entire game is just a massive death loop glitch
But, extinguishing rain? We don't experience it anywhere else
We are basically medics, we collect wl through every realm and save lives at eden
But fire=prairie also sounds stoopid so ur good
I know my theory is really backwards logic. But I've seen the fire symbol in enchantment and prophecy associated with Forest's trees. Again it's all just speculation on my part so don't take my word for it.
I came as fast as I could!
BROphet
Likely so, but the rain part still don'tmake sense. It's basically angry water
I love and hate the ambiguity of the Sky lore at the same time
But again we could back track and use what element is missing from each realm
The forest-fire
Prairie-water
Valley-earth, mainly flying race.
Gw-air, cayse i ran out
How would we know if air was missing?
Air is missing from valley? 
Valley is missing earth? Don't ask how i concluded that i just did
Opposite of air is land, not necessarily just what's missing I guess.
Also, murals might be spoilers to trials iirc
Tbh... I think Vault may be missing... All?
I think vault is one unaffected because vault elder probably forseen consequences
Also, why
We never really see earth in valley its either sandy slopes stoney buildings or icy rinks
You know you might be right about forest being associated with water in the trials, based on what looks like rain in the first mural.
But again i said prairie was missing water, but we have sanc
If its not blocked out i do believe you should include it
I want a krill in isle after this season 
Ok perhaps let's try to understand the murals instead of just trying to associate each trial with a realm. They might not be connected at all
Maybe it's less a case of missing and more a case of once having more?
So, technically it's still missing now
I don't think the elements correspond to different realms though
Wanna read the lore doc but y'all spilling tea
What I think is each of the spirits had to undergo the trials to be 'cleansed' of the darkness that once befell their homes
Nyx, Ya might be onto smth
That is why we see the prophets teaching the spirits in the spirit memories
Yeah I agree @wild crescent . It doesn't look to be that they are associated.
The spirits in the cave are teaching child versions of spirits in the world, not elders
Just a nitpick
Not important
Nyx, Ya might be onto smth
@stone rivet Onto what? 😂 Please tell me so I know what direction I know to pursue lmao
Elders, are literal rulers, I doubt they'd go eith general crowd
Once upon a time, the forest had a lot of fire. This fire was exported, and rain came.
Once upon a time the waters rose high in Isle, but over time the waters receded.
I just think I'm blurting random stuff out of thin air and somehow it's making a little bit sense
@stone rivet Onto what? 😂 Please tell me so I know what direction I know to pursue lmao
@wild crescent about realms≠elements, i nean trials correspond a little but that's not the primary thing
Hmm
Kinda discouraging fact is that we have 6 realns+Eden and only four elements
Once upon a time, the forest had a lot of fire. This fire was exported, and rain came.
Once upon a time the waters rose high in Isle, but over time the waters receded.
@short owl
Isle is a desert. Perhaps one of the realms we mentioned don't count. Instead isle could be apart of the list. But again, at this point, I don't think realms = elements. It doesnt make too much sense.
sits quietly in beta
I think the murals don’t depict the realms but the placers the trials take place
Mayb questgiver is secret prophet of balance
If you watch carefully, all murals in isle depict 4 people. I think these are the prophets?
The prophet is in
trying to hold beta stuff in
Let's make a list of plausible theories:
- the four ppl in isle murals are the prophets.
2)murals depict places of trials
Also is Sky: CotL the first of a series of the games?
it might be
I've heard it being mentioned somewhere that Children of Light is the first chapter in the kingdom of Sky
there have been references by the devs that COTL is only the beginning of the story
Light Awaits
Earth:Adults of the Dark
LA is just pre-launch beta, it’s not part of the current story and isn’t connected to COTL
It actually quite signifies the process of growing up
lamba writing a novel 
I think the mural document how sky formed
In the beginning, there was a great storm, an eternal plane of oceans.
Then through the primordial waters came up the earth,
the cycles of storms and wind carried fragments of the earth up into the sky,
forged by the clouds...
The stars descend and discovers fire, this is a classic metaphor and prescience that
fire symbolizes warmth and hope, yet that same sustenance entails the tale as old as time of ambition and destruction...
the flame is a central theme in sky
what if each realm is covered in a distinct form of darkness
@hushed steeple since you are back, whats prairie covored in?
yeah, an origin story
prairie is covered in... actually i dont know how to explain the darkness plant present in prairies, but i can say the other realms though
xD thankyou
all the others have really convincing darkness but i just cant think of anything for prairie
Prairie is weirddd. My friend and I thought maybe that one in sanctuary was so big bc the crabs were around it. Since they are dark creatures and all.
Unrelated, but does anyone feel uncomfy with reliving cry emotе, we are mocking dead person mourning over their deceased loverr
i dont think it’s a lover but i do think it’s a friend
When I first relived him I thought he died-
Prairie is weirddd. My friend and I thought maybe that one in sanctuary was so big bc the crabs were around it. Since they are dark creatures and all.
@hushed steeple
It was somewhere confirmed that crabs are not entirely dark they wer of light but got corrupted
i dont think it’s a lover but i do think it’s a friend
@lethal stump
Let me have my angst. Moment
Hmmm I wonder how they got corrupted
When I first relived him I thought he died-
you mean the faint emote? yeah he's probably dead
It was?
I relive the cry emote only for the darkness, then realize how emotional it is and end up reliving the entire spirit
he dead, dead as hell
i’d like a citation, ive never found any info confirming that crabs were corrupted light creatures
Crabs are definitely dark creatures
I can't find ut, but I distinctively remember
Now idk if dark = corrupted light
Like trust me guys
its like even though copying is skykids’ nature, they dont copy everything perfectly
do you remember where you found it ?
Season of assignments wow I could relate to that
do you remember who said it ?
@hushed steeple
It was somewhere confirmed that crabs are not entirely dark they wer of light but got corrupted
@stone rivet I agree, they don't always attack
Even krills are creatures corrupted from the darkness from the diamond fracture imo
What in the world even are the krills
Trapping light into diamonds was never the solution. Trapping light is precisely what leads to darkness. It was too late before the vault elder finally realised this. In the final cutscene, she takes the diamond from us and frees the light inside it which shows us all the constellations
Nah
Sound legit?
Yuh
And there is a point where no more power can be harnessed from light, and that point was crossed in eden? The elders overestimated the power of light maybe
i just skimmed through the dev comments in this chat and found no mention of crabs being corrupted light creatures 
@lethal stump is corrupted light = darkness or not?
i’d imagine so
What is winged light???
child or children
@-@
i suggest reading the canon lore doc, it’s mentioned there
Where can I find it?
Pins
Ah ok thank you!!
Bye I will go perform the sneep snorp now
Keep the discussion going UwU 
We need to know everything that skybot already knows
but yeah, @stone rivet i don’t believe your claim that crabs being corrupt light creatures is true, and i don’t suggest continuing to claim it’s confirmed
They are referred to as drak creature crabs in the quests though
Imo any creature that can potentially kill you is a dark/corrupted light creature
yes they are called dark creature crabs but
dark creatures ≠ corrupted light creature
We need to know everything that skybot already knows
impossible, skybot knows all
Crabs are baby krill. Krill nest them in dark, sandy, watery areas, sometimes in caves/tunnels that krill seemingly dig out. Think about it, krill and crabs have all the same patterns of behavior.
they do make the loud noises when they charge, and only hurt you once they see you
knock over the krill by spamming deep call
I would love that haha

Knock over krill lmao
maybe if you had 8 skykids you could pick it up
imagine, one day the shell of a crab cracks, and out comes a krill
shrimps molt... krill look like shrimps... therefore
krill molt
well krills are shrimps technically
they’re canonically called dragons tho 
🤔
Maybe cause if they horns the krills got, probably one reason why they call them that
So we got Whales, Mantas, and Dark Dragons?
And crabs-
And crabs!
I'm noticing a theme here...
Clearly, the next animal in the game will be an octopus.
XD
i was hoping for a squid, but that works too
Why are there so many Marine type animals in sky?
the devs mentioned that they like the way sea creatures move, which is why they mostly populate the game
Makes sense
I noticed some familiar themes in the music when you are able to walk kn water in thr water trial
And at keast ine oerson in this char jnows what the themes represent
i dont knke if theyre here right noe
Oh, I'm freakin stupid. I was going to compare the Dark Dragon to an eel, but they're called Krill X/
Well, that is what it is compared to
Is what I am saying
Isn't every name fanmade since we have no words used within Sky?
NVM, that is false
It's been a long day ._.
You raise a valid point there
Nice
What would you guys want the next creature to be and would you like it to be light or dark? I don't think TGC would ever make one, but I'm just curious as to what everyone wants
that doesn’t sound like a lore question, maybe #general-sky-discussion ?
another valid point
But don't be such a square, my guy! What are you, some sort of brick?
Oh wait...
I'll go now.
😦
Lol-
The creatures are based off of real life creatures but that don’t mean it’s going to look exactly like it
Like this guy 
True
Sky birds looking like paper 
birds used paper boats before it was cool
Pfft
Origami birbs 
looks like the light grabbers have been added to this room
they were always there
I've never seen them until now
hmm
They go woosh
I have a question
probably really unrelated to the current topic
Is there any reason why there are two Valley elders? The twins
not a confirmed one
but they do represent one elder, they aren’t two separate elders
yup
It used to be one elder in the concept arts
but around in Valley there are a lot of "twin" elements, though one of the two is always broken or something
They are?
yup, up in the citadel area (I think that's how it's called? The one with the big gold globe floathing) there are two towers, but one of the two has its point broken
also the entrance to the race there is between a mountain that cut in half, one of the two halves is shorter than the other (maybe meaning that it's less important?)
I'm pretty sure I've seen other stuff like that too, like twin statues but one of the two is a bit broken
Cool
maybe it's just random or design choiche, either way it's a cool detail
That is cool
or the fact that only one of the two race "lobby" has candles
citadel & air race are supposed to be the rich part of the city vs the ski peasants
they do recognize that there are "two" elders tho, otherwise they wouldn't have their staute divided in two parts
they know it's one, but actually two (??)
One mind, two bodies?
each one has half a brain haha
Here for exampele there's clearly some sort of division (blue/red, also one side has more light than the other)
Right brain left brain-
they both left brain after put it down somewhere forgot
LOL
They have to share one brain cell
These are the towers I was talking about before
If I'm not wrong there are others too in the previous area, the one with the underground lake
prb some ridiculous part-Mandarin biology pun about meiosis and “mei-you sis”
Would they put real life refences in the game tho?
Or references to anything not sky-related
Do you know about the GW civil war theory?
different shields/weapons tho ground defenses uselrss vs krill idk
Yea kinda? Basically the kingdoms may have gotten divided because of something and fought (the different shields and weapons, most of the GW spirits being soldiers)
yup
wait GW civil war?
I was mixing it up with actual storical civil war LOL
I didn't know about any GW civil war
just the fact that they try to protect themselves from darkness/krills
it's okay we are all stupid
Eheh
Indeed
I wanted to ask if krills were like born in the corrupted water
Since ever time we see them, they come out of it
Maybe they just like to sleep in it
they want to be moisturized
Sbcsjbdei-
maybe they live there
also since all the "animals" in the game seem to be acquatic animals wouldn't be too strange
well, a theory is that krills are like mantas, in the sense that krills are made of darkness put into a form the way mantas are light put into a form
Krill getting in water: moisturize me
LOL
Ye
they want the soak
now the real question is: are krills filled with darkness because of the dark water OR is the water corrupted because of the krill's darkness
It’s a difficult question ngl
because if ther are kinda like the mantas it would make sense that they got corrupted because of the dark water
Hmmm
since they... come from water
Because they could have been born out of the dark water, they could have been transformed into being of darkness because of the corruption (dark water) or they could have been being of darkness and corrupted the water
I mean maybe they lost their light because of it
A circle has no end?
And can’t exactly die
I mean maybe they lost their light because of it
@weary galleon just like the sky kids when they go in corrupted water
Thats true
Yes
It keeps draining your light
But I also have been thinking
They don’t seem to chase us particularly
But being of lights
they just chase light
And I’m thinking are they just hungry bois
except that one sky kid that's on the right in the first krill area tho
Yeah
aren't we all hungry in the end
Yes
that's life
Indeed
Maybe they are also very blind
And can only see bright things in a certain perimeter
considering that I have to put my phone on 100% light everythime I go to GW I'd say I would be blind too
DBSIG-
Yasss
but yeah, maybe they're very near sight
which, I mean,, that's why they have the light
in a certain sense, well,,, it charges your light if others honk
Ye that’s why I wanted to ask
and it makes some sorta of light when you do it
Hmm that is true
I never tought about it actually
my TYPOS are hungry tonight
can't write properly since always
Maybe honks are just projections of light
Like how people can charge thing with natural sunlight
If krill are made of darkness could there be... Dark Sky Kids?
sweating
Ground Kids?
I mean
Underground kids
Skark Kids
Like butterflies when they don’t have wings
Caterpillars?
chonks
also I think krills are more like the big light fishes, I think the fanmade name is tuna or something
Sky becomes a faction based pvp mmo where you choose between light and dark
those chonk fishes
I would play that tbh
They would bring players to side
People always have to exaggerate
But tbh, I would pay for that
Sky: Children of the FIGHT
PFT-
Lmao
Fight : Children of the fist
take my money
That sounds like a kung fu action movie
LOL TRUEE
Honestly a part of me wishes Sky had some kind of combat system and dungeon-like content but I get that would go against the point of the game
Oh no I don’t think that would ever happen
Tis made to be a friendly game- that'd defeat the social aspect they were tryna go for-
Yeah exactly
though I can't say it isn't an intriguing thought XD
Would the dark children
I love in fact that they added the trials
Be completely different from the Light children ?
they are very zelda like
Oh my god yess
yes
I think I really just want WoW with cool flight mechanics
when I saw the water trial I was like "well,, I spent 20 years playing zelda, can't be that hard"
lore
?
oh yeah sorry
The dark children would be the opposite of light children
They’d be anti-social and aggressive like the krill
would they be played by us tho, or just be npc like the krills
is the architecture type from GW the same of Valley?
they seem to be the same
I guess that's stupid but still a cool detail and probably related to the place's story
Probably tbh-
After several jumps and two of my summer light spells I got a pretty clear pic of the little Obelisk here
Just in case anybody wants it
I didn't realize how dark this cave was until I used the lantern lmao
I noticed a thing. All the spirit tableaux happen at the same time: that ‘lecture’ scene is in every single one of them.
yup!! It's like they're taking class
I love the students they’re adorable fpufojdohdpyd
I’m just
I’m immediately in love with Proph
IKR THEY'RE CUTE
dITTO TO THAT
coughs adoration of the students can go in #seasons-events-chat
Quick question before we go anywhere else though- is that pigtail girl really not the Hunter- I might just be blind
it’s not, hunter is upwards
Probably isn't
laughing light catcher is downwards
Shy Bookworm hairstyle is in there too
'kay thanks- just wanted to make sure-
we don’t know that
they just have nice hairstyle
it’s up to you
true true
i think they are, considering « stock » spirits in memories don’t usually have hair/cosmetics. if they do, it’s for a reason
yeah that's true,,
Maybe that's changing?
maybe they just represent the places they are from or something
just to show that spirits from all the places are going there to do the trials
There are enough hairs in the game now that asigning random hairs to spirits is practical
oh,, maybe certain spirits are taking trials based on where they are from..?
based on certain "problems" that are in their region
like dark water for GW
Would it not make sense for the Water Prophet to take over both Wasteland spirits if that was the case?
true
Ehhh quick question. Is there any king emblems in Valley??
maybe they're just showing us that they go there to learn to work together or smt
Water was teaching patience, Air strength/balance/meditation, Earth perseverance
the diamond shaped thingy?
why else would you shove someone off a hill
Ehhh quick question. Is there any king emblems in Valley??
@hushed steeple There are! Usually a shape made of the 3 diamonds, with an overlapping diamond in the middle
I think they are reaching for them-
That’s so strange. Why is it different in valley??
There are some up the buildings of the races if I'm not wrong then
@hushed steeple There are! Usually a shape made of the 3 diamonds, with an overlapping diamond in the middle
@heady sinew
I may be wrong tho
king propaganda 
I have no clue of what’s going on here
Self-confidence?
why else would you shove someone off a hill
@lyric isle Considering the Water Prophet's emote is a Deep Breath for calming down and being 'patient'. I think the earth prophet here is reaching for the student because they slipped, hence the emote "brush off your shoulders".
Maybe bravery??
what are lions usually associated with ? bravery ?
Yep-
courage
Pride in oneself
Lions are associated with it
leadership?
fire prophet could be teaching people to believe in themselves, lest anything malign would feed on their insecurities.
wrong video
And I spot the Courageous Soldier with Fire Prophet
got no clue why Pilgim would need that unless he really was just spreading news
Wait nevermind the question was answered thanks-
Also, if anybody is interested in this fun fact. In Tarot cards, one of the major arcana, 'Strenght', is always represented with a lion
the background music sounds very regal too
yeah bc the lion is usually king of the animals/forest stuff
gives me Two Heroes vibes
it makes a lot of sense considering the prevalent trope of characters dying or being defeated due to something telling them they are not good enough or nothing will work
Fire Prophet Concerto in [whatever key the music’s in I can’t remember] - II. Adagio
it just sounds like a
it sounds like a Classical-era
anyway
also idk if it's just me but it seems like the memories we see are some kinda of backstory to the whole story of the game, idk
it gives me that vibe
It was stated as such!
Oh, well
excitedly
Thank you TGC for finally blessing us with outright lore-
that's a fact then
Lol
I guess this has nothing to do with lore but what is this supposed to even begin to be
stickman
old beta quests, collect the light
Some people said it was leftover designs for beta quests
I tried overlapping all the patterns I could find once but got no results
There's no pattern in there 
It was driving me insane -w-“
I was also wondering what those were, tho now we know
Another question lol, what are these again?
it’s part of a diamond factory
Same thing at forest temple
Diamond factories?
I wonder how they worked
Diamond factories?
@queen locust There's an ongoing theory about power diamonds made as energy source (like batteries) and Forest Temple was one of the factories that made them
i really need to go wandering in Wasteland more I haven't seen half of these things
It also took me a while to notice that part of Wasteland was very similar to Forest Temple 
Ahhh so that’s what those diamond platforms in the forest temple are
Ahhh so that’s what those diamond platforms in the forest temple are
@hushed steeple yup!
Basically the theory goes: The butterfly jars that come from Prairie are shipped to Forest to be used in the making of power diamonds (The butterflies are used for their light, basically)
Oh ya! I saw a cool video on the mask above the entrance of the temple in forest! Do you guys know anything else about it?
POOR BUTTERFLIES
And they mix the light with rocks to contain said light and boom, power diamond
Oh ya! I saw a cool video on the mask above the entrance of the temple in forest! Do you guys know anything else about it?
@hushed steeple I think that mask is a reference to the concept art. Before the design we have right now Forest Auntie had a mask
It's on the official Sky Twitter I think
Maybe!
Ehh I’m sorry I’m asking a lot of questions but...
it's okay dw
Do you know anything about the mega bird?!
Ask away! This is the lore channel after all
Oooh megabird is a big can of worms
We don't have much canon stuff about it
But if you saw the credits you know it's this swirly milky way sort of thing
Yes
big and bright, can't miss it
I've been told they're called Megan and that it's an important freakin' deity
the size of that thing conpared to what I assume was the planet of Sky is
Terrifying-
V e r y
Is that what this thing is?
Ppl earlier were talking about it but I didn’t understand
Have you checked the Lore Moff doc for that?
megabird !
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the name "Megan" is an inside joke because bricky mistyped megabird and it got autocorrected to Megan
is megabird
oh megan
megan is a fitting name i laugh everytime i hear it
also,, I noticed that if you honk when you're near megabird you will honk following the background music/voice
just after the part with all the flying spirits, when there's something similar to a voice singing in background
???
if you honk multiple times you can notice that the honk has the same music tones as that voice
||in orbit?||
Oh. Yayyy!!
I got so scared there for a sec LOL
so yes, in Orbit when you’re flying with the spirits, if you continuously honk you’ll sing
also yes there
XDDD
it's the last part of orbit, before the part where you get the candles
If you uncovered the Forgotten Ark murals there's a silhouette shaped like our dear Megabird
Really?!
I would send a pic but I don't have any Ark pictures right now
Really?!
@hushed steeple yeah! It's on the left side, facing the questgiver I think

I think it’s kinda cool how each prophet has 2 “apprentices” sorry if I’m off topic >.<
First picture!
Which picture?
Door in the clouds (Prophecy?)
New mural guy with a hat
Brick is here to save the day
looks like Daleth
Which picture?
@hushed steeple first file, very first pic top left
Woahhhhhhhhh
Daleth.. yeah it might
It looks like a majestic blob
Also the rock on the mural looks like the rock in Isle
And yeah it could be Isle Elder/Daleth because of the boat shaped hat
Not much tall tho...
True
Remember murals tend to be simplified
Tho it's just a mural
Which is hot *not how he was depicted
Maybe it's the nono emote spirit
A follower of Daleth, priest of his temple
Or Dalethson!

wait what megabird sings is kinda same or subverts king’s motif
(lowG C lowB, lowG D C, C G)
wait... thinking about Ascent, Mantas, and the honk song to Orbit
i think this isnt the king’s motif at all. its megan’s. 
What are the big doors in waste?

what i mean is the ascending notes in Manta and the intensifying part in orbit is megan’s motif
gtg
oooh
What if they are emergency gates
Falling to prevent further entrance of Krills
Hopefully working out like guillotine
eh-
gasp

but very usefull indeed....
e a t i t
Trying to repeal Krills, they had to fight with all theyn had got
Why would they make a lot of big doors to cut off krill heads-
because the temple guards the gateway to the vault
But there is a big gaping front door ahead
Or maybe I’m just not paying attention and all the doors look the same ajksjdks
but could it be just side doors to get there? Like how castles have walls who connect to one place
Maybe not just for that... But I don't know.. maybe even just as ... Entrace corridor thingies
maybe they are the walls door or something
Also I came up with this very small theory as to why Krills show up at the battlefield in wasteland.
So we open to door, right? This door must have a set of gears powered up by light, which might cause vibrations under the earth, and the water next to it. The krills feel the sudden movement so they come up to the surface because food is here
there are too much tourists, sir
*Ok, open gratings 2 and 4 too
Do they eat stars?
LOL
Cause they kinda fail at that-
they seem to be looking for light
They do eat light.
I think the falling stars are just a game mechanic
That, or they can't eat winged light specifically
maybe
That can make sense
We they hit us our light thing goes down even during home glitch
there are a lot of winged lights on their paths
Are they guarding them?
But joking theories aside. First time I saw them upsidedown, I thought TGC used them this way to give a symbol of decadence and decline of the civilization. Their golden era was comeing to an end
Sometimes I’m not sure if something is a mechanic or actual lore 
yeah it's kinda ironic that golden wasteland is everything but golden
Ya. It’s g r e e n
Lol-
It's sand, after all
Wait what color does gold rust-
Sand is golden, but not anymore because of pollution
If gold rusts, it goes black
But not a lot-
But I think it can be polished
A h
some metals have green rust but I don't think it's the case with gold
Hm
but I can see where you're going
Idk uhh
Spirits with capes are teachers/leaders or something
Ye
gold doesn’t rust or tarnish 
it just gets dirty
maybe that wasteland wasn't that golden afterall if everything is in rust now
True
some metals have green rust but I don't think it's the case with gold
@late canopy that is copper
hi what would you call the drawings on the walls? I feel like there is a word for it but I can’t remember
But it seems (from a quick google search) that gold turns more of a reddish color when rusting and can be removed
Murals?
oh that works
yeah they're called murals usually
mk 😼👍🏻
I want to leave some food for thought with the prophecies, we know the teaser defines one prophecy, but the new area is called "Cave of Prophecies".
What if each prophecy was a doublespeak, one which would teach the ancestor spirits of the past valuable lessons, but in the context of the impedding future which they cannot extrapolate, but we can. Four parables for we are attempting to piece together, we learn about our fate and destiny by examining the messages and trials of the past, and as the cycle of prophecies continue, who would be the next prophet...? (side note that the king/prince's mask is a four-point star) || we are the fifth prophet not yet awakened ||
Sooo. Is it really gold in Sky? Or is it a mixture (don't know correct word), a blend of copper and gold?
I think gold too have a good condution for electricity... IF I am not wrong
Gold is indeed a conductor ye
@hushed steeple O-O
any chaos theories?
thanks for the food lambda
Yam
if wasteland have sand, and sand contains silica, does that make Valley of Triumph silicon valley, maybe that why they are so affluent
sorry I just had to
ok bye
Idk uhh
Spirits with capes are teachers/leaders or something
@feral radish
Proth-ets
Prof-essors
Coincidence?
i think the kid with the tuft hair is the waving bellmaker
My friend thinks the spirit with the lime cape is the prophet guide cause the hair is the same
courageous soldier?
I think so
Don't we already see him with the other spirits being taught by the Propeths though?
no, thats the boatmaker iirc
questgiver has the same hair..
Idk I wasn’t paying attention lol
wouldnt make more sense if it was bellmaker?
Btw... Did you notice there is a spirit with a sortof different kind of rastas?
Or is just a bug for me?
wdym?
This dreadlocks hair... Is a bit spiky
i think that’s the design
I used to wear that hair but I dont remember it was like that
it was tweaked a bit perhaps?
hmm i would like to know what the prophecy is about ? cuz a prophecy as far as i know is a message made by a deity and delivered by a prophet. is there a deity that rules or rules the world of sky ?
Prophecy? WHERE?! 
skybot

it’s about the origin of the kingdom
SUS
it’s about the origin of the kingdom
@lethal stump i think it’s tied to its origins too
and also there is possibly a deity of sky, Megabird
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the eden elder and megabird are separate as far as we know
is king the eden elder? or im just kinda mixed up
well king is really the only one walking around with a crown right?
unless the prince and king are different people 
ah true
hmm this theory gets interesting 
isnt prince like the same size as a skid tho?
and king is well 10 feet taller
nvm 14 feet taller
we don’t know their heights for sure, it’s just theorized
So what exactly is the prophecy we are supposed to be afraid of lol
it hasn’t been revealed yet 
Welp
maybe when we complete all the trials?
Maybe
maybe the sky world will collapse
🍟
pff as if it hasn’t already 
i was gonna write a theory but my brain “HAH HUH” and decided to forget
WAIT I THINK IM REMEMBERING
what if the prophets tried to warn of what was goin to happen but the elders didnt listen and after they chose some kids to prepare them for the up coming apocalypse maybe?
Yeah, that's probably what happened...
Also, guys, remember when we were questioning the lack of foliage? like.. plants other than flowers?
The only trees in the game are grey and sound like stone when walked on. I think they might have been petrified.
probably !
i've been wanting in on this discussion since i scrolled up-
with how they sound they're kind of hollow- remind me of fossilized trees so I think you're onto smthn there-
eden explosion theory plus stone trees makes sense to me
which explains the loss of leaves
👀👀
Yeah. Hm..
i think there were some leaves but there stone
Thanks guys. It was something that hit me while I was candle running.
And as it were, there is a sort of volcano in Eden.
but a MASSIVE VOLCANO 
Idk looks pretty massive to me.
ye the diamond thing throwing rocks
Me, lost as hell because I know none of the lore: 
There's a document, Ambrose!
someone get the lore moff doc
👀👀🤲
Oooh so the final cutscene we might see the destruction of the world form before?
Pls spare a crumb of lore good sir
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I mean, this season seems to be really dark already.
true
But it kinda holds an implication that these trials are kinda.. simulations? like they would just let their students die like that.

If those were simulations then would the disasters have corresponded to those elements
Perhaps so.
The earth was split by fire.
And they were actually teaching the students those virtues as an attempt of survival
remember the forest flood theory?
I don't think I saw that one-
But it explains why it's almost always raining and there's water everywhere.
hmmmm
i think there’s info about the forest getting flooded in the theory vault
Ooo



