/dw lore chat does theories on bugs all the time
#lore-discussion-spoilers
gilded fossil
kindred edge
Oh...... And here i was, ready to theorize something that's a BUG
@hushed steeple
There are no accidents /oogway
kindred oar
What if the horned/crowned person became the king? Idk tho might be a stretch
Honestly i have this theory as well if the king/prince = child of light, If the prophecy is about CoL
broken basin
It happened to me and my 6 friends and we had to farm vaultt with it
It was...... Eye blinding
bitter shale
if we restart our game teh glow is gone btw
teal orbit
@hushed steeple
There are no accidents /oogway
@kindred edge that would be heaven
in lore
lore heaven
solar relic
oh i looked back on my videos from me revelling in feeling like hesus in the water trial and i hear the leitmotif, if we're talking about the correct one then yes it's found in many places
bitter shale
also... this kinda bugging me. is the fire element created the cloud??
teal orbit
whats a leitmotif?
stable zodiac
Do you guys think the forgotten ark is related to the trials?
@kindred edge I don’t see any connection. The ark was its own thing, a ship that was lost and the survivors had murals of what their life was like. But the Season of Prophecy don’t have any of that. It has elements and from what we know Isle of Dawn included on the walls.
pastel brookBOT
bruh hang on, this isn't what the prophecy foretold!!
novel marten
Flos I think that’s just smoke
bitter shale
ah... smoke
i forgot fire can produce smoke-
stable zodiac
Leo you can skate freely and safely after u finished the trial
@hushed steeple No I that we could do that even outside the trail since we became a star.
bitter shale
gilded fossil
/leitmotif iss a piece of music that's repeat to represent an idea pyre
teal orbit
the holy fire made the holey clouds i think
bitter shale
wait can smoke caused rain?
spring blaze
not super related to the convo rn but did anyone record the cutscenes?
bitter shale
uhh like smoke can polluted the cloud and turn the rain into acid rain idk-
gilded fossil
/forest???
bitter shale
it depict forest tho
short owl
Probably none of the people set up to record have gotten on yet
Totally got gyped of fire cutscene tho
gilded fossil
/ginsy try beta chat?
solar relic
i got some recordings but they're not the best
spring blaze
yeah but thats beta stuff haha
solar relic
which cutscenes though?
spring blaze
i was recording the shoulder dust off spirit and it. didnt show me the cutscene hah
bitter shale
the cutscene taht played after we finished the water trial and go talk to the qg maybe
spring blaze
ok discord
spring blaze
here we go
kindred oar
I'm gonna charge my phone, guys. be back soon, happy theorizing!
spring blaze
this is so sad
sick obsidian
Another oddly suspicious skybot: #general-sky-discussion message
sage hemlock
/propheginsy that's a known issue and had been reported in beta multiple times, they never managed to fix it.
short owl
GAH THAT'S WHAT HAPPENED TO ME WITH CHEST BUMP
spring blaze
was it for that spirit specifically??
solar relic
i think it happened for all the spirits
sage hemlock
/it happened to me for every spirit except Prophet of Water.
pastel brookBOT
i prophesize that... 
spring blaze
that is so SAD SKCJSJC
short owl
It's a good thing we have spirit relives now
solar relic
for me all the spirits got poofed 😔
gilded fossil
/elius lmao
spring blaze
i havent relieved spirits yet, does it show cutscenes too?
short owl
Yes
gilded fossil
/oop spoilers
spring blaze
spoilers 
bitter shale
Ah... well-
gilded fossil
/yeaaa
solar relic
uhh anyway
solar relic
i forgot what we were talking about before this
gilded fossil
/so the spirits
gilded fossil
/and forest with the rain
solar relic
i was thinking whoever's up in the clouds either blessed fire upon the kingdom or like yall said
it's a forest fire 😔
bitter shale
Idk maybe it would makes more sense if its raining fire instead of water in forest
Since the element there is fire-
But ngl that would be terrifying
gilded fossil
/in the elements in chinese tho, Tree births Fire
bitter shale
@hushed steeple well, nah
storm lichen
It would be worse if a big wall of fire chased you
round river
Roaming meteor👀
solar relic
👁️👁️
bitter shale
Wait what am i just talked about
solar relic
lmao the rayman games but it's sky
thin dirge
Ooh, that’s interesting with the trees to fire Jen
bitter shale
I wish trial of fire will include ghast that will shoot fireballs on us
Oh wait it reminds me of wood element and fire element from feng sui perspective
delicate coral
I think the trials are probably linked with the spirit memories
round river
I wish trial of fire will include ghast that will shoot fireballs on us
Sounds interesting 👀
delicate coral
The spider looked like it was teaching how to climb, so we’ll be climbing in that
gilded fossil
/trees births firee, fire births earth, earth births metal, metal creats water, water grows tree
delicate coral
The bat was lifting I think, so we’ll carry something maybe??
bitter shale
@round river are you +62? Or a fellow SEA? 👁👁
delicate coral
Yeah I might have them backwards
gilded fossil
/the chinese elements cycle if anyone interested
solar relic
wait so what you mean by that the trials are linked to what the respective prophets do in their memories?
delicate coral
The lion was running though, I remember that, so that’ll probably be a speed-based trial
bitter shale
Well
Maybe
thin dirge
delicate coral
That’s my prediction anyway
thin dirge
I like that prediction
broken basin
i wish i
bitter shale
Likely, fire trial would be courage based
broken basin
How?
thin dirge
Lions represent courage!
delicate coral
wait so what you mean by that the trials are linked to what the respective prophets do in their memories?
Yeah that’s my guess.. the water one was related to taking one’s time I think, and the emote was breathing in and out similar to the rising and falling tide
thin dirge
And leadership
bitter shale
Uhhh earth trial would be... idk, puzzle? Ba sing se based? Idk-
thin dirge
And royalty
round river
are you +62? Or a fellow SEA? 👁👁
@bitter shale
+60🤭
gilded fossil
/no war in the earth trial
solar relic
im even more scared of the trials than my exams
bitter shale
Like earthbending from avatar
storm lichen
I assume this is the fire entrance. (not a spoiler since it was shown in the introduction) looks scary if you ask me
broken basin
wow you make very good predictions flos
thin dirge
Lions are associated with courage and bravery. Also leadership and royalty
thin dirge
I agree with Boop tho. I just HATE time limits-
gilded fossil
/death? vampires?
bitter shale
Does that mean the air trial would be flying blindly in the darkness-
thin dirge
Oh gosh, if that’s the case, it’s gonna be a nightmare for me-
bitter shale
There is vampires in sky??? 
gilded fossil
/oh my goodness flos i would nit like that
thin dirge
Vampires..?
solar relic
i think we're becoming #seasons-events-chat or #general-sky-discussion 
thin dirge
True
broken basin
From what I can see, air trail will be about , ahhh flying cause air?? 😂
Does that mean we'll be wearing capes in air trail?
bitter shale
Well-
Umm idk about that, im assuming all trials will be capeless since water did taht too
Anyway
lore
LOOOR
E
thin dirge
I’m quite excited to experience the next trials myself
gilded fossil
/is it spoiler to talk about the orders of the trials?
bitter shale
Ye
thin dirge
Yes
bitter shale
Yep
steady geyser
The one you get after water
storm lichen
This?
steady geyser
Yes
steady geyser
Well the big rock is definitely the one from Isle
gilded fossil
/lmao booop no
broken basin
But didn't we see all trials in the trailer?
steady geyser
Yes you can see the rock is in Isle, while the clouds have stairs who lead to a door (to the caves)
round river
Probably 🤔
solar relic
they look like the plain jane versions of the element stars in the murals
steady geyser
I think isle ppl took boats to the clouds to enter the caves?
and did trials
and prophets guided them
sage hemlock
Does that mean what we see on the the murals before entering the cave, are the elements that fell from the sky?
steady geyser
that's why we see spirits in the prophets memories
but these spirits look like the game spirits, but younger
storm lichen
Or, some spirits were chosen to do the trials and if they finished/completed them they could be students
gilded fossil
/how we know they younger? they be smaller?
steady geyser
well they seem like they don't have their stuff yet
round river
It does seems like those falling stars were brought back to temple
steady geyser
like capes or prop
storm lichen
They are indeed smaller than the seasonal spirits
gilded fossil
/ maybe its the school rules
lyric isle
I’m just assuming they’re different people
steady geyser
they look alike a lot, but prophets seem way more epic
lyric isle
anyway imma not active hereas if now as I have not begun Prophecy antics...yet
pastel brookBOT
is it true? @lyric isle, are you the Chosen One?
gilded fossil
/okay but why the trials? like who actually took the time to makes these and test ppl
steady geyser
Like they are taller and got cape mask, hair
hushed steeple
Fire trial might be something like this
As a beta player AAAAAAAA
bitter shale
look, maybe the mirals will be depicting someone doing all teh four trials?
since we seen a door
and it might be will be entered by someone?
steady geyser
I think the prophets created the trials. Or at least they mastered them and they guide young spirits into these trials
bitter shale
also the door is in the between of clouds, similiar to the entrance of the cave of prophecy
pastel brookBOT
hey @bitter shale do you know anything about this prophecy everyone keeps taking about?
vapid bobcat
what were the prophets trying to teach by making these trials? what's the gain?
bitter shale
tbh, maybe for teh people to have more controls on all 4 elements?
sage hemlock
Wisdom. it says it when you complete the Trial of Water. ''You have honored the Wisdom of Patience.''
vapid bobcat
hmmm
empty nest
Hmm this is new. I never seen that child and guy with wand
storm lichen
The horn dude is back! He is probably an important person since he shows up in multiple murals
short owl
Maybe there's a task that there will be exactly one chance to complete, so the trials are a way of ensuring the one who attempts it succeeds?
vapid bobcat
to be honest water trial just made me realize how impatient i am
tender dune
spoilers?
vapid bobcat
umm beta content?
short owl
Dude!
sage hemlock
It's not spoilers, it's from the trailer
hybrid oxide
Is that a spoiler I see 👁👁
vapid bobcat
trailer??
sage hemlock
IT'S from the official trailer
steady geyser
The horn dude is back! He is probably an important person since he shows up in multiple murals
@storm lichen looks like isle's elder
vapid bobcat
woah never seen that trailer
hybrid oxide
Wait, it is 😂
vapid bobcat
OH THE NEW TRAILER i didnt see that yet
sage hemlock
Don't jump your guns booya
steady geyser
Hmm this is new. I never seen that child and guy with wand
@empty nest guy with wand looks more like GW's elder with his weapon
round river
I was about to say same things😂😂
empty nest
Oh truee
steady geyser
And bruh big guy looks like the king watch his crown
bitter shale
I CANT SEE PICTURES WHY SI MY WIFI LIEK THIS
storm lichen
Most likely since it’s a black hole
empty nest
More like black sphere
sage hemlock
black hole is called that way because it sucks everything into it, including light. it's just a big mass of nothingness
empty nest
@hushed steeple yes
vapid bobcat
but black hole absorbs every light nearby so it might be bright inside black holes, we never know
short owl
O.O
solar relic
the million dollar question that has been brought up many times: what were these trials even for 
storm lichen
but black hole absorbs every light nearby so it might be bright inside black holes, we never know
Maybe TGC sent staff in to a black hole to see what it is like and made a trial out of it
bitter shale
idk why... but i think this is earth trial? based on the green glow
vapid bobcat
i mean it must be pretty boring living as prophets, they gotta do something
bitter shale
which represent earth element
sage hemlock
i believe the murals will tell us, or we'll have to figure it out with their help
vapid bobcat
what does a prophet even do for a living?
pastel brookBOT
which prophet are we talking about?
solar relic
steady geyser
Ngl these trials are dangerous, we better get rewarded fairly
@hushed steeple you literally have nothing to lose in trials haha
sage hemlock
/Boop That's a good question
bitter shale
you literally have nothing to lose in trials haha
other than patience and sanity i guess-
round river
I think more like where's the stars are🤔
sage hemlock
Well if trials cost you your sanity that would explain a lot about the king
bitter shale
idk, maybe more about the elements? since its in colored
solar relic
stars isn't really an accurate name for wl
round river
I mean the fallen star from the mural
bitter shale
also who is this lad with horns
round river
Maybe their leader
bitter shale
these are from the teaser btw-
solar relic
i think that's the qg
sage hemlock
I think it might be the Isle of Dawn Elder? (when he was young?)
bitter shale
daleth didnt have horns tho-
solar relic
the elder looks different in murals
sinful anvil
those ppl around with stripes on their waists are ancestor spirits
thin dirge
Maybe it is the Isle Elder, but drawn differently
tender dune
my first guess was that the animals were based on their symbolism.. turtle means patience 
wide night
probably someone just higher in status or like a leader like ketpat said
bitter shale
its a bearded sea turtle btw
thin dirge
I mean, it is kinda hard to draw the big Isle Elder as the one in the other cave
sage hemlock
Well, quite a few spirits have masks with horns (valley/gw mostly).
thin dirge
So I guess they tried to simplify it so that they can draw Isle Elder more easily, and I believe the mural in the other cave of Pointing Pilgrim is more of a detailed version
The thing on their head looks like Isle Elder mask
wide night
i honestly think elders aren't supposed to be here yet since this is an origin story n all
thin dirge
Eh, I’ll still see it as Isle Elder
bitter shale
uh well its not their original story imo...
tender dune
bearded sea turtle?
solar relic
i still think it's the qg
vapid bobcat
werent elders here from the first place?
also we are not sure prophecy is the story ver. 0
wide night
0.5 then?lol
thin dirge
The thing on the guy’s head on the mural doesn’t look like the quest giver
vapid bobcat
it could be after other seasons for all we know
bitter shale
since the murals would be about a prophecy... i believe the prophecy came after teh elders fell
thin dirge
Looks more like Isle
solar relic
but that could still mean that ancestors were around before elders fell
thin dirge
Who knows, the Prophecy may have been already fulfilled in the past, the reason why we’re told to “Beware”of it is so that we don’t make the same mistakes-
vapid bobcat
im convinced that ancestors were here before elders
bitter shale
butter
thin dirge
But I guess we should wait for more murals-
vapid bobcat
but if all these trials' purpose is to teach, what does it have to do with prophecies?
round river
That means basic spirit is also ancestors right?
solar relic
spirits = ancestors but dead
vapid bobcat
do the trials open our abilities to prophesize or see the future of smth?
thin dirge
vapid bobcat
meh
vapid bobcat
hnng i cant wait for the rest of the trials
round river
I thought they are different species 🙃
broken basin
I think the current mural (the one that appers after water trail) shows the 4 prophets along with the Isle elder (the one with the horns, cause they look like his mask) creating the caves of prophecies.
In the first scene ,we see,stars fall, which is probably the continuation of the intro where the stars fell. That star in Isle was the Isle elder, I still don't understand how the prophets came to be but let's just say they existed for now.
Then in the cutscene, we see Isle elder and 4 figures which I believe to be the 4 propehts appear, which means that they are in Isle of dawn.
In the next scene we see a patch of clouds clear, and some stairs and a cave entry apper. This represents the cave of prophecies. This whole scene depicts Isle elder and 4 propehts making the hidden caves with their powers.
(Rest of this will continue when we see more murals next week)
Tell me what are your ideas and what do you guys think of my theory. Thanks for reading ❤️
livid valley
Indeed
bitter shale
i think the trials are to teach us about each elements?
livid valley
Could be
vapid bobcat
hm prophets made the cave of trials? interesting
signal forge
i'm just waiting for the slow mode
vapid bobcat
i mean they wouldve made it at some point but
gilded fossil
/no tiny igloo
signal forge
jen where are your slashes ;-;
livid valley
Lol
tender dune
y'all think those prophets arrived before or after elders fall??
for me it might be before tbh
vapid bobcat
i think after
wide night
before probs
gilded fossil
/<---- still here, although not lore related lmao
/maybe the same time as the elders
thin dirge
signal forge
is there a summary of prophecy ideas till now?
gilded fossil
/yall okay but who thought it was a good idea to make a trial in the middle of a dessert
steady geyser
also who is this lad with horns
@bitter shale either turtle guy or isle's elder
wide night
they're named prophets for a reason I think, if they're ever gonna prophesie something big it'll be elder's fall
gilded fossil
/what's the purpose of all these trials
thin dirge
I think the trials could take place where we meet the Elders.
Outside of time and space-
vapid bobcat
i dunno, who could ever understand the mindset of prophets
livid valley
To make yourself look like you have a talent
tender dune
first trial taught us patience
wide night
we don't know yet jen but imo might to help you become more powerful?
vapid bobcat
im pretty sure that to be a prophet you cant be exactly sane
pastel brookBOT
I haven't been this scared since my creator got stuck in someone's basement 
tender dune
i guess each trial teaches us things that the elders or prince lacked which led to their downfall
vapid bobcat
skybot we all know about what happened to alex, you can relax
solar relic
we don't talk about that here skybot
livid valley
Skybot 
thin dirge
What about the blue light thing that goes into our chest when we finish the trial that allowed us to walk on water-
bitter shale
all i can say it, the mural is not completed. there are 3 more trials and we can safely assume each part of the murals will appeared after each trials
think about it likes puzzle
thin dirge
I’m surprised no one’s talking about that-
wide night
i read relax as re-alex
steady geyser
What about the blue light thing that goes into our chest when we finish the trial that allowed us to walk on water-
@thin dirge I think it's the water color. You completed the trial
vapid bobcat
wasnt it yellow thing
bitter shale
without other parts, only one piece will be very confusing
thin dirge
Looks like blue light
steady geyser
It is
vapid bobcat
if you see another player experiencing that cutscene, the orb looks yellow
probs a bug
signal forge
does anyone have pics ;-;
steady geyser
It was the default color in beta before the add the final colors
vapid bobcat
ooh
thin dirge
Woa
bitter shale
a gate on the cloud
thin dirge
Murals are big
bitter shale
im using chibi btw
wide night
tis the cave we are in I think
bitter shale
even as regular i can confirm its still big
signal forge
yea it loooks like the entrance
steady geyser
Yeah with the stairs in front, quite surely it's the caves
bitter shale
from afar
livid valley
Beautiful
heavy eagle
Wait the season started?
signal forge
what's the mural on the bottom?
thin dirge
Does this mean our skid can walk on water if they want to?
livid valley
Wait the season started?
@heavy eagle yea lmao
heavy eagle
FRICK
livid valley
AHAHAH
thin dirge
Its been a few hours now-
bitter shale
yeha not the best quality i know
sage hemlock
it's been live for 6 hours
thin dirge
Almost 6 hours
heavy eagle
Oh so that's what my friend meant by new season is out
thin dirge
Lol, imagine our skid walking on water and being immune to rain-
heavy eagle
I thought he meant the new my hero academia season is out or sth jdhdbs 😭😭😭
signal forge
Lol, imagine our skid walking on water and being immune to rain-
@thin dirge then they could walk on the rain droplets~
thin dirge
heavy eagle
I'm gonna have to update later and drag him to Isle for muralology
bitter shale
gtg sinoalice colo almost started, cyall later
signal forge
they can walk up waterfalls then
heavy eagle
I mean, we CAN swim without our light going out, except if it's the tasks' water or polluted GW water, or Forest rain water
thin dirge
What about the coat spray thing that causes water to just bounce off of stuff-
Lmao
Yeah, probably
signal forge
why does the water in the trial extinguish us though?
thin dirge
Also... The blue water we see in Water Trial
It looks a lot like the water we see in Valley
signal forge
heavy eagle
Butterfly 🤝 Malamatina
The braincell
signal forge
so would that have anything to do with the color right before we can walk on water?
tender dune
maybe
heavy eagle
Wait i gotta check out the symbolisms in ark's lights
thin dirge
The symbols we see in Cave of Prophecies are different tho
pastel brookBOT
Surely you didn't propheSEE this one coming
tender dune
blue light is purify
mental snow
It could be. It could of been frozen over during time.
thin dirge
It purified water
signal forge
that kills us-
thin dirge
^
mental snow
Polluted water.
heavy eagle
Bruh it had no symbolism smh smh
Technically, the trials are a way to purify the existence of the skid?
Like, the light or whatever idk
thin dirge
Maybe...
heavy eagle
We going philosophy boyz
thin dirge
heavy eagle
What was the water trial a test for?
heavy eagle
Then yes, the trials are supposed to make the skid pure and good
pastel brookBOT
We were born for this 
thin dirge
Maybe...
solar relic
is that a journey reference
heavy eagle
They teach the skids virtue, just the hard way
bitter shale
More like undertale references-
thin dirge
mental snow
Both is good
livid valley
I don't play journey or even see gameplays so idk what you mean 
thin dirge
All your theories are interesting, makes me hyped even more~
heavy eagle
I don't play journey or even see gameplays so idk what you mean
@livid valley it's basically the game's final theme song i think
thin dirge
But I'll slowly lose resistance the more I look at them, lol
mental snow
Quick question. Dose journey come before or after children of light
heavy eagle
Neither, they are completely unrelated
short owl
Journey is not connected to Sky due to copyright reasons
heavy eagle
I love how in here we are like
Someone : ok but Journey-
Rest of lore chat : No. Stop talk. Silence, child.
short owl
journey was never released in Live
mental snow
I will shut my mouth. I just thought because the places in journey looked like ruin places from sky. The dark dragons and guardians looks similar to.
solar relic
i know journey and sky aren't related but it was in regards to what skybot said LOL
anyway continue sorry
short owl
I mean if we assume left to right and use the spirits... It's kinda fair game
heavy eagle
Water, earth, fire, air
Long ago the four elements lived together in harmony
livid valley
How many elements are there
heavy eagle
But everything changed when the krabs attacked
mental snow
K r i l l
signal forge
when the kreb nation attacked
short owl
If that black hole is fire... Maybe the trial was destroyed by darkness
thin dirge
What black hole?
thin dirge
Lemme check-
Wait-
I ended up seeing the trailer for the new Season-
It has footage of the other trials, wow-
livid valley
Wait new season?
signal forge
wait what trailer?
thin dirge
Season of Prophecy-
pastel brookBOT
What lies in wait for you can only be overcome by ||sneep||
thin dirge
livid valley
short owl
... Skybot that raises so many
Hmmm
thin dirge
IT HAS THE OTHER MURALS WHAAA-
livid valley
The staff really did prepare skybot to put stuff in lore eh
mental snow
How is this game free
thin dirge
Guys, watch the trailer-
signal forge
what is that black hole
thin dirge
Ikr
Guys, did any of yall seen the trailer?
It has tidbits we haven't seen seen yet----
AKDJDKDHFKS
mental snow
Just finished and h o l y. It looks beautiful as frick
thin dirge
Sorry, first time I saw it-
short owl
Wisdom of determination maybe? Having to just push through something scary to those numb to Eden?
short owl
Hmm... So maybe Eden Itself is a trial?
solar relic
trial of self-sacrifice perhaps
sage hemlock
Eden might be the combination of all trials?
thin dirge
Oohhh, I noticed the trailer still leaves out certain things-
steady geyser
It has been confirmed that eden is a challenge, and that's why it's written your friend is in a challenge when they are in Eden
livid valley
Do we even have a brain
mental snow
The trials take after eden. The polluted water, darkness, and I’m guessing it has smol crabs to
thin dirge
Soooo... Final trial is us going through Eden..?
wide night
trials do seem to have black and white schemes and you don't get to have your cape
thin dirge
Ah, could've been worse-
mental snow
O h g r e a t
wide night
so?
tender dune
black hole trial is jackal trial? cuz jackal does symbolize determination
wide night
not really?
livid valley
Indeed
thin dirge
But we went through Eden multiple times...
livid valley
Krills 360 degree eyesight? Definitely!
sage hemlock
jackal is just the quest giver, i don't think it has it's own trial
thin dirge
I don't want children to be traumatized and have PTSD at the end of this-
steady geyser
Who is the QG for the prophets 👁️
signal forge
I wanna yeet into the black hole
tender dune
he also has an crescent /eclipse behind him
bitter shale
Boop- you might into something here
Liek why its a black hole
It can be like what boop said
sage hemlock
@tender dune Would that symbolise rebirth? Like a new moon?
steady geyser
I wanna see this chat when all trials are out 😝
tender dune
Eclipse?
thin dirge
Oh trust me, you will want to~
short owl
Can we talk about that beam of light and how it just kind of... Either stopped to reveal a child or turned into a child or maybe the child stopped producing it once we could reach them?
bitter shale
The wl seems to produce some kind of light beam to show taht the price of the trials is them?
tender dune
kinda
bitter shale
Like, more wls
steady geyser
Sky moon is always cresent, right?
@hushed steeple bruh you're right. In ark too
tender dune
in vault oob its a full moon but i doubt its 'canon'
steady geyser
In last year's Halloween was there a moon?
short owl
tbh I am glad fire isn't one of those trials where you have to keep on disappearing platforms. I am not good at those
steady geyser
And during space day is there one?
thin dirge
The light beam is there even when after you collect the WL
When you already finished the trial before I mean
You can do trials again...
I did it three times already
bitter shale
gusy what if the qg is not anubis, but his brother Wepwawet instead?
"(Wepwawet) name means opener of the ways and he is often depicted as a wolf standing at the prow of a solar-boat. Some interpret that Wepwawet was seen as a scout, going out to clear routes for the army to proceed forward.One inscription from the Sinai states that Wepwawet "opens the way" to king Sekhemkhet's victory."
opens the way
thin dirge
Ooohh
solar relic
standing at the prow of a solar-boat— YES
steady geyser
gusy what if the qg is not anubis, but his brother Wepwawet instead?
"(Wepwawet) name means opener of the ways and he is often depicted as a wolf standing at the prow of a solar-boat. Some interpret that Wepwawet was seen as a scout, going out to clear routes for the army to proceed forward.One inscription from the Sinai states that Wepwawet "opens the way" to king Sekhemkhet's victory."
@bitter shale OPENS THE WAY TO THE KING OMMGGG
thin dirge
Oh yeah, that fits the descirption of Isle Elder best-
bitter shale
In later Egyptian art, Wepwawet was depicted as a wolf or a jackal, or as a man with the head of a wolf or a jackal.
thin dirge
Oooh
steady geyser
Bruh
thin dirge
Sounds like Quest Giver
steady geyser
You're on sth BIG
bitter shale
altho the fur is grey or white, unlike anubis-
steady geyser
The mask is grey, not black
tender dune
all the masks are grey
thin dirge
And he's the guy that opens the way for us towards the Light
bitter shale
Even when considered a jackal, Wepwawet usually was shown with grey, or white fur, reflecting his lupine origins. He was depicted dressed as a soldier, as well as carrying other military equipment—a mace and a bow.
thin dirge
Isle Elder, I mean
tender dune
i guess his drum is a war drum then??
thin dirge
Its a dundun
bitter shale
i mean, it can be
steady geyser
He does slam the drum to trigger the cutscene
wide night
he bonk and door work he bonk and murals appear
tender dune
tho all their emotes are zen..
livid valley
Haha grey mask finally I have a rock on my clay face
thin dirge
I think I remembered a dev confirming this-
steady geyser
Not to make music
livid valley
Honestly I thought the prophets were just making the spirit to learn the emotes like us Skids but it's different
bitter shale
In the later Egyptian funerary context, Wepwawet assists at the Opening of the mouth ceremony and guides the deceased into the netherworld.
thin dirge
bitter shale
oh my
arent the prophecy drum is hourglass shaped? dundun is more drum like shape
oh nvm
i jsit checked it
dunun also got hourglass shape
the otehr name for dunun is talking drum
heavy eagle
So we gon die?
tender dune
The dundun
thin dirge
I mean, some of us has died in Water Trial already-
heavy eagle
Do we lose any wl in the trial?
livid valley
Nope
heavy eagle
Thank gee
livid valley
^^^
heavy eagle
Yea ik but just,, the FEAR
bitter shale
its exciting at least
bitter shale
oh there is diamond print on the drum too
tender dune
thin dirge
Somehow, I had a lot of fun doing Water Trial, more fun when I did it solo
tribal badger
tral of watr
thin dirge
Its the Season symbol
The Season Symbol is on the dundun
I like calling it dundun, its cute-
tribal badger
Dundun sounds cute-
broken basin
Wait what if the prophecy was the fall of the elders and Megan foresawit and sent the 4 prophets to the Isle where they and the Isle elder made the caves of propehcies.
I know this all had no point but, ig we can't say anything much until we see more murals
hushed steeple
my first time being in this chat, I'm already overwhelmed with too much knowledge
broken basin
The season symbol on the dundun has no eye/circle in the middle
tender dune
solar relic
would you like the lore moff doc to get started?
broken basin
hushed steeple
o h w h a t
broken basin
No eye
tender dune
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto
Credits to Bricky for making this 
tho it wont be useful for prophecy season
hushed steeple
Yo IM curious, did the Elders died because of krills?
broken basin
Elders aren't dead
hushed steeple
alright, time to eat the document and not my textbook
broken basin
They were all stuck between life and death but we Ascended them back to the skies
hushed steeple
They aren't dead, they're aren't also alive
@hushed steeple So we can consider them imaginary Giants?
broken basin
And King has done so many bad deeds that he can't be saved and will forever be stuck
hushed steeple
Im just into the story
broken basin
That's nice
tender dune
who isnt
broken basin
Cause many people don't even realise sky has a story
bitter shale
btw
*Dundun, also called the Talking Drum, is considered by many to be the most eloquent of all the African drums, and is believed to have originated within the divinity. In the southern Sahara in Africa the Dundun is traditionally regarded as the instrument of the Kings. *
signal forge
the dundun has strings on the side though right?
bitter shale
yep
signal forge
But the drum in game doesn't have the strings. It has two drumheads connected by leather tension cords, which allow the player to change the pitch of the drum by squeezing the cords between their arm and body
bitter shale
This hour glass shaped drum is made in six types and exists in a family structure namely Iyaillu, Aguuda, Omele, Adamo, Kanago and Gudugudu, the latter been the eldest of all. Each plays a specific traditional role in society.
now read this and please recall how many elders we have-
hushed steeple
i knew sky had a story but like, im screaming, THE ELDERS HAVE NAMES AND I NEVER KNEW
broken basin
A table bulges outwards at the middle but that goes inwards at the middle
i knew sky had a story but like, im screaming, THE ELDERS HAVE NAMES AND I NEVER KNEW
@hushed steeple
They don't
hushed steeple
Who sended the elders story?
livid valley
And this drum is 1/4 of that size
broken basin
Those names are just what we call them for short
tender dune
the names are no longer canon but fanon
hushed steeple
o
broken basin
They aren't canon/true anymore
bitter shale
oh nvm sky dundun didnt have strings-
tribal badger
dundun
hushed steeple
ill stop chatting for now, carry on
broken basin
Dundundundundundun
hushed steeple
Wait what, elders have names?
tribal badger
Fannon names-
broken basin
Yesn't@hushed steeple
bitter shale
lmaoo
tribal badger
They were once cannon but not really anymore
hushed steeple
Lmao who do you guys call them
tribal badger
I mean i use the names-
tender dune
the names were an old concept and has been scrapped, they're no longer canon but fanon
hushed steeple
What*
tender dune
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto
Credits to Bricky for making this
the elder names in here
broken basin
So just consider that no, they don't have names, that's just what we madlads call them so that we don't have to type elder of blah blah again and again
I mean that they shouldn't be connected to lore anymore
tribal badger
Daleth- Isle Elder
Ayin- Daylight Elder
Teth- Forest Elder
Samekth- Valley Elders
Tsadi- Wasteland Elder
Lamed- Vault Elder
I think that's it
tender dune
alef - prince
resh - king
tribal badger
Ohhhh
broken basin
i was typing the same ginko
bitter shale
samekh
solar relic
it's ok boop we love big walls of text in lore chat 😌 on another note that is SAD
hushed steeple
I thought the Eden Elder can be saved
But i was wrong
And all i see is just rocks
It was when IM a moth
primal verge
Ok theory time.
These 4 are the 4 prophets
mellow falcon
hello I’m here B)
tender dune
to go along with those boats
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/762166218458398750
hushed steeple
IM confused
primal verge
Everyone is
tender dune
they share a name
hushed steeple
Samekh 1 and Samekh 2? That sounds weird
tender dune
just. samekh
tender dune
we have our own way of distinguishing them tho
duh
😂 why would i post it
hahahaha
broken basin
Do remember that Prophecy is an origin story about how the kingdom actually came into existence
pastel brookBOT
I’m sure it’ll be fine! ..... Right?
steady geyser
So turtle guy or isle elder?
topaz girder
Ok theory time.
These 4 are the 4 prophets
i thought of that too
pastel brookBOT
who needs prophets, skybot to the rescue!
broken basin
Wait
solar relic
but why is one prophet lonely and why is one with horn dude
broken basin
That isn't in the game yet
fast jasper
there’s four murals in the isle not including the new season and the temple
solar relic
it's from the trailer
hushed steeple
Does that mean that the Prophets have something to do with the lores?
solar relic
well possibly, prophecy has a lot of lore for us to rip into 
pastel brookBOT
Surely you didn't propheSEE this one coming
tender dune
if they left the 'light' there in that place, and moved on to the other realms to give out the other lights
broken basin
Maybe yeah, the Isle elder and prophets are giving the lights to realms
tender dune
why isle elder tho?
broken basin
In that Particular mural they've given Blue light, and now heading to enxt realm
tender dune
isle elder has his own doodle
fast jasper
it looks like it
broken basin
I think cause of that thing on the head
tender dune
the bald head and beard doodle
broken basin
Yeah ik
tender dune
quest giver has the thing on his head too
tender dune
his ears and eclipse
tender dune
we theorized that before the season started tbh
broken basin
Like there are 4 in every photo meerkat sent
But now, since we are sort of thinking that the mural in the cave has the prophets and Isle elder, maybe
It's indeed connected ?
hushed steeple
Yo, how did the sky kid was created?
tender dune
we dont know
broken basin
Ahh, yes
fast jasper
daleth looks like he gave something to the prophets
broken basin
The lore chat is for discussion about that, we don't actually know anything about this game except from what teh devs have told us
We are just making speculations and new theories
hushed steeple
The devs be keeping secret doe.
hidden dagger
Are ya winning, sons?
hushed steeple
Let me read more doc.
broken basin
Wait when we complete water trail, we achive "wisdom of patience" right
Maybe someome attained all 4 wisdoms from all trails and gave it to the propehts, they then gave the 4 wisdoms to the Isle elder which made this whole kingdom possible since it granted those wisdoms to it's people.?
heavy eagle
NDHHDBDBD bc Isle elder = good king ( coexists w corrupt King ) ehehehdhdhbddb
Crackpot theories tingz
broken basin
Why do I think Isle elder later became the King, it's just like I'm feeling it now
Idk,
Since he was the one who's started it all
heavy eagle
I had a theory that the Isle elder actually fled from Eden and disguised himself as an elder
broken basin
But maybe the King is the one who achieved all 4 wisdoms and gave it to prophets
heavy eagle
Isle is p much empty and his only connection to it is the boat mask, so i theorized hes faking being Daleth when he's actually the King
broken basin
That's why they made him the King
Also, the gate of eden(2nd area) and gate of Isle temple is the same
open quail
Maybe the Fall (where Eden was created) didn’t entirely wipe out civilization completely, maybe it was a gradual process
broken basin
The fall didn't wipe out civilization, the edne explosion did
Now I'm thinking that this whole civilization was built after the fall
And then the eden explosion
And then the present
open quail
Yeah
So Krill were created before the explosion maybe
Sneak spirit was when one the disciples and he seemed to live among the krill or maybe even study them
broken basin
Ahh, I'm loving this new season, so much to theorize❤️
open quail
Saaame
Has anyone identified all the disciples of the prophets yet? I kind of want to relive their memories and see how it compares to others lol
broken basin
Yeahz I think the krills were before the explosion cause yeah, we see a krill involved in one of the spirit's cutscene , that means taht the krills were present while the civilization wasn't dead
I think we already know water propehts that it's balance or calmness
I have no clue about earth propeht
Air prophet is looking all about balance
Fire prophet as one person pointed out looks to be about bravery or courage
And all these factors are needed while making a successful civilisation
steady geyser
There is the scared stance black cape spirit, without her cape
open quail
Yeah I meant their disciples, the two spirits that seemed to follow each prophet around
steady geyser
Yeye, I'm answering you lol
broken basin
Patience to be patient and let the civilization develop
Balance might mean that there should be balance of powers ina civilization and all power doens't have to concentrated in one's hand
Courage and bravery because one needs of stay brave or courageous to surpass all the difficult times and falls that'll come in the future of it's development
One factor still remains hidden which the the earth propehts
open quail
Seems like a royal trial almost
Are they trying to prepare the sky kids to make their own kingdom maybe?
tender dune
trial for proving if the prince was eligible to rule them? in which he was crowned in valley?
broken basin
I feel like the prophets were sent to help in the starting of the sky kingdom by choosing the one who can manage all 4 wisdoms
open quail
Ohhh ty Boop!
tribal badger
Oooh
open quail
I’m just so curious why sky kids have to beware the prophecy, because this season seems to focus more of proving your worth and sharpening your skill. Are they training us for a day that we won’t have wings?
broken basin
All these seem shorter and younger
tribal badger
Are the Trials specifically for us?
Or were they for the spirits too?-
broken basin
The description says, Beaware the ANCIENT trials
tribal badger
ooga booga then-
open quail
Beware the trials like we should beware the prophecy?
broken basin
So, I think the trials are actually supposed to be dangerous since they are warning us about them
If not dangerous, then at least, challenging
tribal badger
Imagine the last trial makes you lose stars
pastel brookBOT
Buff moth takes all their friends though trials. At the same time.
tribal badger
Gasp
open quail
That’s a solid theory skybrophet
broken basin
brophet
kindred oar
What if.. we're not supposed to do the trials? Because they said beware of the prophecy, so it's like a warning to us to not let the prophecy happen?
tender dune
why are they welcoming us then?
open quail
But the prophet guide told us to do the trials
pastel brookBOT
i prophesize that...
broken basin
Maybe all the spirits died while doing the trails and they don't want the same to happen to us so they are warning us
steady geyser
They are young spirits. Look at chibi lady. She is not as small as when she is a final spirit
broken basin
Yes, they are kids/teens
kindred oar
Maybe they spirits tried to do the trial first so they know what will happen to us if we do it??
solar relic
why must we beware because,, nothing bad seems to be happening
open quail
The prophets are teachers too
solar relic
for now at least
broken basin
I think the prophets forced them to do
steady geyser
Maybe the prophecy is someone who will finish all 4 trials?
open quail
Maybe the mural that appeared on the wall after the water trial is part of the prophecy?
late sigil
is it just me or the quest giver is kinda shady........
steady geyser
Maybe the mural explains the creation of the caves
hushed steeple
Now IM thinking that the 4 Prophets is a Lore character.
broken basin
Lolz what if in the future, Prophecy guides brain explodes thinking about lore and the whole Kingdom gets destroyed and that's the prophecy
open quail
Can’t believe civilization was destroyed by a lore explosion
broken basin
🧠 
open quail
What if we were the prophecy the whole time??? 
solar relic
there is no overtheorising in lore chat
kindred oar
I feel so confused my brain never work this hard
solar relic
because it's nerf or nothing all or nothing
late sigil
So any idea what info enchantment gave anything to the lore?
solar relic
orbs and murals
broken basin
I guess , it's still very less murals to see, so we are unsure
solar relic
orbs is a very funny word to say(/type because i'm not actually saying it)
bitter shale
They search the light and enchant the light to orbs
open quail
I look in the crab cave and murals told me “We poured stuff out here and crabs came and scared the bejeebies out of us so we ran away”
bitter shale
Why did i type skee-
late sigil
?
topaz girder
steady geyser
So any idea what info enchantment gave anything to the lore?
@late sigil spirit were transporting lights and failed lol
tribal badger
I wonder what the last Trial will be-
steady geyser
hahaha that's really only that
late sigil
Fire
bitter shale
Well
tender dune
enchantment and lightseekers are related, if u notice the ark murals
lethal stump
stares in beta
tribal badger
oh boy fire
bitter shale
Likely the black hole trial will be the last
late sigil
Oh i see
tender dune
I look in the crab cave and murals told me “We poured stuff out here and crabs came and scared the bejeebies out of us so we ran away”
they didnt pour, they took their water
gilded fossil
/is that spoilers
broken basin
+ = 💥 🧠 💥
late sigil
So its just connected?How?
bitter shale
Spoiler
open quail
Ohhhh!
lethal stump
@topaz girder thats beta content, please don’t mention what is in the fire trial
tribal badger
Time to play Roar of the Jungle Dragon as I desperately attempt to run the trial with no mistakes
topaz girder
oops
tender dune
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/632004389137154048/750940260795678771
my theory on ark which includes lightseekers. i updated a bit of it cuz it was old
bitter shale
Ginko
Did you pin the lore moff link to your keyboard as well-
hushed steeple
Umm so Eden was actually a city full of spirits, then Boom the day of happiness is gone.
Then they ascended to heaven.
In the Reborn cutscene.
tender dune
how many disciples are there ?
my memory keeps formatting esp when a shiny skid passes by me
late sigil
Question, why are hearts used as currency?
lethal stump
i think there’s 8
hushed steeple
I-
lethal stump
i know there’s 2 per Prophet
bitter shale
Likely, heart = trust
tender dune
i think there’s 8
interesting.. you think they might be related to the 8 golden graves at oreo?
open quail
Hearts require people to interact, so it serves to more closely bond sky kids
late sigil
Oh alright
lethal stump
interesting.. you think they might be related to the 8 golden graves at oreo?
no, i kinda think it’s the other way around. I think 8 is an important number in the world of sky.
bitter shale
Also it can mean that the prophets trust you enough so the qg see you worthy for teh ultimate items
pastel brookBOT
Maybe one day I can be a prophet too!
steady geyser
Great theory ginko
tender dune
8 symbolizes infinity
hushed steeple
Maybe one day I can be a prophet too!
@pastel brook one day 😔
pastel brookBOT
i prophesize that...
bitter shale
This is teh 7th season btw... wonder what will be the 8th...
gilded fossil
/nope this is the 8th season
bitter shale
Oh... mb
open quail
Candles are probably there lore wise so sky kids can spread light and melt darkness
gilded fossil
/it's AP_08 iirc
bitter shale
Or to b u r n
steady geyser
This is season 8. Season 1 is winter season, also known as rythmn season (season 5)
open quail
The elders just want to watch the world burn
lethal stump
flashback to intro_01_08
bitter shale
Bruh... and here i am with my downgraded phone on my 2nd season 
solar relic
ahh i remember when i called it season of ap08 whew
tender dune
i remember that too res
bitter shale
Ap08 remind me of some kind of chemical in body lmao-
gilded fossil
/it was exactly 30 minutes after the intro was posted when we had slowmodeanyways about lore
tender dune
ATP?
short owl
... Wait a sec... Anyone have a list of the seasons off hand?
steady geyser
Yes
short owl
I have a... Thought
steady geyser
Let me write it
lethal stump
Gratitude, Lightseekers, Belonging, Rhythm, Enchantment, Sanctuary, Prophecy
bitter shale
@tender dune no no im more reffering to Apoptosis caspase pathway but mehhh
I already forgot anyway
steady geyser
season_01 winter
season_02 gratitude
season_03 lightseekers
season_04 belongings
season_05 rythmn
season_06 enchantment
season_07 sanctuary
season_08 prophecy
short owl
Hmm... Idea does not work. Ah well
tender dune
i was talking about Adenosine triphosphate
silver sequoia
What're the times for the seasons? like when did they take place?
sinful anvil
the questgiver is weird. dressed like a regular ancestor, just has the anubis mask and drum. thats it. any reason for that?
why is the qg dressed like an ancestor spirit
lethal stump
why are you confused ? that’s what most questgivers are like
bitter shale
Basically energy but in fancy name-
sinful anvil
even sanctuary?
gilded fossil
/yea
lethal stump
the only QG i think had a custom model was rhythm
solar relic
rhythm was the special snowflake
literally
gilded fossil
/ soooo that's why the dud's fangirled
lethal stump
other than that it’s mostly been default qg with cosmetics slapped on ‘em
gratitude, belonging, lightseekers, and sanctuary were just default qg dressed up
bitter shale
idk, other that Anubis and his brother which i already forgot his name, i cant think anymore symbolisim for the qg mask
also the theory about rhythm dude can transform into a giant bird
like idk does transformation a concept in sky world?
tender dune
wepwawet
lethal stump
and enchantment dad was a scholar with a different hat
bitter shale
ah yes, thanks ginko
tender dune
np
bitter shale
hmmMMmmMm
okay now i sounds like minecraft villager
(Wepwawet) name means “the opener of the ways (roads)”. This is thought to refer to the paths through the underworld, but may also refer to the choices or paths taken life as he also seems to have been linked to the power of the living pharaoh. In the “Book of the Dead” and the book of “That Which Is in the Underworld” (Amduat) he leads the deceased through the underworld and guards over them on their perilous journey, but he was also thought to act as a scout for the army, “opening a path” to allow them to proceed.
well this is interesting to be said
also damn egypt myths are confusing ngl
gilded fossil
/ and not very child friendly but we're not talking about that here
/the underworld= the spirit world tho?
delicate coral
Hm I’m confused about why Anubis would have a halo as well
In Egyptian mythology the halo only ever appears with Ra since he’s the sun god
I think
lethal stump
are we 100% sure this is based on egyptian myth
delicate coral
Imo it doesn’t line up that well with Egyptian mythology besides the mask kind of resembling a jackal
bitter shale
"Wepwawet associations with war and the newly dead — whom, like Anubis, he accompanies on their journeys to the underworld — might be due to canines’ well-earned reputation as fierce fighters and savvy scouts."
mellow falcon
Unless something has to do with death then 🤷🏾♀️
bitter shale
oh also egyptian god Set does have canine like head too
gilded fossil
/canine?
tender dune
dog
mellow falcon
^
solar relic
~~qg is oreo's long lost grandpa ~~
gilded fossil
/does the egyptions have sth with spiders and lions also?
bitter shale
hmmm im not sure, lemmw check
hushed steeple
what about the (this is a stretch) sun/solar disk on the jackal mask? (has someone mentioned that yet?)
mellow falcon
Wait, can I show images here or would that be considered a spoiler?
tender dune
there is a lion i remember
lethal stump
as long as it’s not beta content go ahead, Yachty
bitter shale
talkin about Set, one of his role is as protector of Ra the sun god
tender dune
not sure about spider
bitter shale
sphinx
gilded fossil
/ anyways, must go. happy lore-ing guys
mellow falcon
err idk if the spirits/emotes are beta, I’m not a beta so imma try and explain my theory
Bye 👋🏾
lethal stump
the spirits and emotes are in live, therefore theyre not beta
mellow falcon
Mmk
lethal stump
fire trial and onwards is beta
mellow falcon
Ooh alright
Makes sense lol
Well since there is an Anubis like mask or canine mask
What if they are there for the spirits that had near death experiences
Cause as shown here they are some of the spirits from the GW and the miner from the Forest
Maybe it’s like a therapy for them
delicate coral
I’m still not sure that we can confidently say they’re the same spirits
pine stirrup
i noticed that too, i alwasy thought it was like a holiday or a ritual
lethal stump
one could argue for both sides
what i’ve noticed is that with “stock” spirits in memories, usually they’re just the default bald dude. but here they’ve been given hair...i feel like it’s for a reason
also not all of those spirits are relive quests
hunter and survivor i know aren’t
lethal stump
maybe
short owl
2 diciples per prophet.
The icon is two kids holding hands. The skykid constilation in Orbit is one leading two. It's all connected
tender dune
there are 8 white candles in water trial
short owl
- Interesting repeating number
tender dune
cuz ♾️
heady sinew
I’m just so curious why sky kids have to beware the prophecy, because this season seems to focus more of proving your worth and sharpening your skill. Are they training us for a day that we won’t have wings?
@open quail OH MY GOD what if, lore wise, these trials happen before Eden? That's why we are forced to do stuff without or wings, we gotta know how to handle ourselves without flying
short owl
Samekh cause there to be 8 elders (including single Eden elder)
heady sinew
They are warning us of our fate of dying
tender dune
I wonder if these two lines are related to the intro video of the other stars that fell along us