#lore-discussion-spoilers
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i think the rain is natural
Hey maybe megan set it to eternal rain because they keep cutting down the trees too
this theory would mean the mural is depicting the forest map, not the fire trial
it's more like fire makes rain clouds
thats weird
Uhh the rain though
Maybe forest had river before,but the overuse of fire made water evaporated
it wouldn't make sense if all the murals depicted other trials except this one though
And the cycle just do that continuously
Uhh the rain though
Maybe forest had river before,but the overuse of fire made water evaporated
river area bro ,,
I know
Uh the wording wasn't right
Y'all what if the prophets thought the spirits to do the trials, like trading the spirits for these trials, maybe it was mandatory for all citizen or not idk, but later after the explosion, we skids were born and went through each realm and finally it's our time to do the trials, as u can see we were warned of the trials from the start of the game-. That's my thought-
What was the fire trial again
Training**
Dark worms????
@teal orbit S P O I L E R
prophecy started
The fates have spoken
What
Well fire trial isn't here yet

How do you even know that? It’s not even out yet
so ST O P
oh
imma delete everything
I SAID STAHP OR IM CALLING A MOD-
Did I just see spoilerrr
PLEASE DONT
UNSEEEE
What is the trial now though
its gone
I NEED UNSEE JUICE
LOTS OF THEM
it's cool uh just be careful
Oh
IM SORRY I BROKE THE CHAT
ITS GONE
AGAIN
There’s only one trial for all i know, the trial of drowning
ehhhh
Ok we are all about that trial now
I’ve got a theory-
there is water , earth , wind , and fire trial
The hardest part is starting! You can do it!
This may or may not be wrong
Oh and uhm. The shiny colored things tho, that’s where the wl is located, so maybe the mural is just showing where the wl/blessing would be? And we already know that Forest Realm represented fire (from enchantment), so my theory is the spirit might’ve been done the trial in each of their respective realm?
@hushed steeple that’s what I’m thinking the murals are.. they’re depictions of the trials & wl inside the trials— and maybe representing the realms in which the spirits did them
My theory is that the Season itself is the Prophecy

The subtitles when you enter the Cave is “Beware the ancient trials”
oh what about the mural after the trial?
Trial of Water: Time Divides Each Contender
Pretty noice subtitle
Kinda similar to “Beware the Prophecy”
B E W A R E
wait i mean
water can be gw
wind can be vault
earth can be ,, uhh idk abt this one ,, maybe valley
fire can be forest ?
So what if the Season itself is the Prophecy being fulfilled
season of prophecy in a nutshell
Prophecy? WHERE?! 
That’s why we got the Season Promo early
Umm wait
too early
When you finish the trial of water it also says; “You have honored the Wisdom of Patience.”
I think mural after trial resemblance the cave we are in, no?
yeah , butterfly
Which coloured light was in which realm again
so early the game hasnt been released yet
Lmao
It does resemble avatar. The first time i saw Trial of water, i shouted "Southern Water Tribe!"
@hushed steeple oh yes... ice water (ant)arctic yes
Avatar-inspired season confirmed lmao
Uhhh what was the purple light's element again
Hmm... maybe it wasn’t?
then we will have a mini ba sing se in the earth trial?
Purple summons the stores ,, we once theorized it represented knowledge I think
Maybe two of which are artificial
*plays for 6 months, didnt even know the lights had corresponding elements *
why am i talking in proper capitalization
Since purple is in vault, it could be knowdledge, yeah
we had purple light in vault tho
UH.IMMA CHECK EVERYTHING ABOUT ENCHANTMENT AGAIN BYE
Remember when I said that red is the one with the longest wavelength while purple is the shortest wavelength? The four color lights we have are in between red and purple
Lore chat has changed me...as soon as I entered caves I went “evidence!! take photos!! so much lore!!”
so murals r an illusion?
Lore chat has changed me...as soon as I entered caves I went “evidence!! take photos!! so much lore!!”
said every lorefolk
I think those two are artificial
Going to sleep y’all, thank you for being brilliant, I am going to be dreaming of these murals
yes prob
The other four are natural lights
why an anubis mask tho?
Red and purple seems to have a huge significance as well
what does anubis represnt hol up lemme google
@teal orbit and thiiiisss is what’s gonna keep me up
Heyyyy... Wanna know something about the mask?
Anubis — the afterlife
Ash confirmed the halo had design significance
underground
What is it
yesyesyes
sorry for the pic but what do you guys think they're doing? pleading?
wait......
Underworld, afterlife, lost souls, guiding souls to the next realm ...
osiris is the king of the dead
Idk
why anubis
ahhaha ,, you know how spirits are dead and there's these stone bodies thing of them ,, what if ,, hehehehwhhe
I think that's us ruru
Anubis was kind of like an usher between realms, I believe
Maybe because the spirits are, well, spirits 
Halo is an angel? So??
Ash confirmed the halo had design significance
@thin dirge wha
waiting for the god of sky 
It's Megan we are all lower than her
Guys... you didn’t listen to what I said..?
yeah ,, we're talking not so much abt the halo
hHhehehehehehehhe
ASH WHY
Oh ash why
Now use your brain cells!
big brain time
NO MY BRAIN CELLS I ONLY HAVE 5 OF THEM
Kinda reminds me of Eden Crown tbh
u know how u go thru a portal in this season?
we never did that in other seasons
maybe the prophecy caves are a place that exists out of space and time
and its like a secret agent school
devs really bonked us with prophecy and braincells
The halo kinda reminds me of Eden Crown
@hushed steeple Anubis oversees mummification— that black color represented both life and death ,regeneration, soil. the way the body returns to the earth.
And rebirth is naturally tied up in that. A halo makes sense !
wh what is it
guys i dont think the caves r a part of the kingdom of sky
Yeah, it seems similar to Eden Crown
Of course it is!right??
eden with sundog
This Eden Crown. It looks like a halo, but different.
I saw a mural with someone with a crown/halo thing
hes a prophet folks!!!!!!!!!
I mean the light circle around eden?? we see it in every realm
connection to god is important and what better way to show it thana halo mask?
right?
oh no I mean in a realm
yall delete eden crown 🤠 🤠
Ohhh
But what role does the questgiver plays in this season though
Other than giving quests
UhhhhHa
Not sure
I have a headcanon, but its too spoiler-y
GIBE
the headmaster of the prophecy school
Yeah but we see sanctuary actually joins in
Maybe he check on us, he must guide us until we finish every trial
thing is ,, there's none of the questgiver in any memory ,,
yup
I think I got an idea, but as I said, spoiler-y
That's true omg
Indeed it’s strange that the questgiver isn’t in the memories given that they were for both sanctuary and enchantment iirc
Give please
@thin dirge pleeease share I can’t go to sleep till you do and all the Egyptian mythology I’ve learned over the years is getting snuggly with my sky headcanon right now
maybe they are supposed to help us ,, and the prophets are supposed to help spirits ( and help us in a way too but like yeah )
I'm serious, its spoiler-y
I eat spoilers for all of my meals of course I can take that

the spirits dont interact with anubis
a time traveler
Give me I NEED MORE KNOWLEDGE
I dont wanna say what it is. It'll ruin everything
I assume ‘spoiler-y’ means it’s based on beta content, meaning that it shouldn’t be shared here
Bold of you to assume I haven't eaten the whole season's spoilers by now
@thin dirge word. Okay. Fair. Can I ask... is it in any way tied to the mythology of Anubis ?
No.
anubis only gives us the paints in the murals tho
Me too!
Maybe anubis is from different time and space? But he has similar mask as the other spirit..
Mehhh, its too importantttt~
guys the whole cave is prob from a different time amd space!

Please give aaaaa
I want yall to see it for yourselves, I mean, I got spoiled by accident and I didn't realize it was a major spoiler-
dm me pls
i'm already on beta i have seen All
I got spoiled by purpose
Imma still gonna wait-
awww man

anyways
Noooooo-
u go thru a protal to get to the caves
@thin dirge , i haven’t been on beta and I respect the mystery!! Thank u
Its more fun when everyone else sees it and we all get to discuss it together~
on a study break, whatever that hasn't been released yet should stay unspoken so let's not go there yes
Much more fun

i am in internal pain but anywyas
so we're time traveling?
Anubis seems to show us what we are doing tho?? Like I think the mural was talking about us, what he shown today is like Isle and the clouds with a cave???
@thin dirge just gave us all something to go OHHH SNAP about in a few weeks , it’s a good thing. okay good night again everyone,!!
wwhat portal in prairie
DRUMS THAT SHAPE ARE HOLY
the puzzle one?
8-player puzzle portal
That's not a portal imo
oh yeah but this one its different
This one is like in last area of vault, where you can go to eden or home
puzzle one its totally white
OH YOU MEAN THE PORTAL TO TRIALS
Yeah Sky is weird with magic system
And water logic
OHHHH THAT PROTAL OMG IM STUPID
this one I think have isle
I think so,but water trial explore is really risky
There not much place to see I think. I tried going to far spot but we cannot go there either ebcause there's no place to stand on
Oh good idea. I haven't tried that
We can?
maybe anubis its really a time traveler, in the season announcement it's like a kid and in the cave its bigger than the spirits
there wont be a spot to meditate if u glitch through
I'm still a shiny boy 
Yea were really shiny
Like king/prince
smol ?? dudes literally 6' something
Anubis guy is really damn tall ngl
Oh yeah I just noticed the dude is pretty tall
Remember Sky kids are really short
But he's short in the promotional art??
yeah
Maybe perspective idk
@hybrid oxide well the promotional art is kinda still concept art so idk
TGC:suprise the smol BOI is tall actually
Should I love this guy like how I loved Rhythm guy or that's an unhealthy relationship
so because anubis is the god of afterlife? They might be in another time than the spirits, but he died, so his afterlife is to guide us
Or maybe he was younger?
He is a spirit though
Yes
"Yo i died and I came to inform you you have to do these chores for me ok"
"Ok"
Maybe he is in different time than the spirit in the cave, maybe he is in the same time as the realm spirits? Idk
So, few decades after the prophets?
Hmmm
So, few decades after the prophets?
Yeah
wait it's a spoiler if I ask about what the ult cosmetic does?
- trials done *
"Good now prepare for falling children because this kingdom is doomed"
i was thinking the whole cave is like an elder cutscene place
Not really
Nah
Ults pretty useless imo
I mean
We went through a portal, unlike Enchantment and Sanct
So that's weird
They do project themselves huh
I mean
We went through a portal, unlike Enchantment and Sanct
So that's weird
Exactly! I find it really odd
Jelly umbrella is useful
huh?
oh it's a drum lol srry
The cave is on portal, it is secluded and well hidden.... Something is fishy 🤔🤔
"Oh and keep this a secret I can't mess up the timeline ok"
If you notice some of the big spirits in realms when in this place are pretty thin
That means their clothes are really big
And might be comfy
The cave is on portal, it is secluded and well hidden.... Something is fishy 🤔🤔
I see no fish in there

we jumping on to theories
it rlly doesnt....
guys
guysguysguys
we need to focus on the portal
what does it mean
why is it there
one problem at a time
grabs popcorn I love Lore chat
I have 2 explanations to why the portal can be there
- It means that the actual caves of propehcies isn't there , it's somewhere esle, only the entrance is there, maybe the people at that time could open and close portals and since that place looks hidden , maybe they just made the entrance in Isle and a portal, so that they can close it whenever they wish and noone can enter
- It's so that people (ahem, ha*kers )can't go to the area easily.

okokok
no.2 is prob a rl explanation
so were gonna go with no.1
if there arent more
Also, there are only 8 in game Spirit in that place, not all, maybe those 8 were chosen for something
The trial also seems to send you to a pocket of space not connected to time. So maybe they have an ability to open portals to other places or dimensions.
Also, I think caves of prophecies was there when no sky kingdom had developed since it's an origin story, so that makes sense why it's in isle
maybe the caves work like the jedi system
The trial also seems to send you to a pocket of space not connected to time. So maybe they have an ability to open portals to other places or dimensions.
@half ridge i was going for an elder cutscene style meditation thing....
Yeah, maybe the trials are just a interactive dream in which we control our soul, that's why we can't use any physical items there.
Maybe the whole time, we just sit on the meditation spot while dreaming it all and the waking up after succeeding
Also, I think caves of prophecies was there when no sky kingdom had developed since it's an origin story, so that makes sense why it's in isle
@broken basin hmmm yes
Yeah, maybe the trials are just a interactive dream in which we control our soul, that's why we can't use any physical items there.
Maybe the whole time, we just sit on the meditation spot while dreaming it all and the waking up after succeeding
@broken basin well u do dissapear...
I mean, that can just be a game thing
Ooohhh you're right. It's like our consciousness is the only thing that is transferred?
maybe u teleport to a halucination inducing room
Exactly@half ridge
That's interesting
I think we dissappear cause of how the game works,
cuz u know... u dissapear
the devs could have made it so that we stayed on the meditation spot
(there are candles and stuff in the room too. My friend and I were joking it seems spiritual or solemn there)
they prob didnt for a reason
There would be no way that game can place our copy sitting there the whole time while we do trial ourselves so it can just be a game thing
the devs could have made it so that we stayed on the meditation spot
@teal orbit
How?
THIS
if the caves really happen before sky kingdom then the prophecy must be about us
we shall see
we rlly should stop resorting to game mechs
and find in universe reasons for stuff
The prophecy seems like was a huge deal to the spirits, the murals seems big and wide as well
Another proof that only our consciousness is transferred is the fact that we don't have wings and stuff like the spirits. They probably take these trials too.
(Sorry might just be repeating)
yes yes
my theory is that we r teleported to a room
behind the shrine room
and we have the dream like adventure there
I think that it is before the founding of the sky kingdom, the wording in the description of the reveal trailer is quite curious
a chilling new adventure that foretells an origin story of Sky’s villagers.
“Foretells an origins story” would seem to indicate that this whole season occurs before the origin story, however I’m not sure if we can take the description of a YouTube video to be in-game canon
Additionally that would complicate our understanding of spirits
guys.... the prophecy caves r old....
the season could just be about explaining what happened
not us being there
the water returned to the centre after completing the water trial
yes
oh wait guys completely off topic but
if i restored the forgotten ark and someone else didnt
is the forgotten ark restored?
I was thinking that it's like we see a glimpse of the spirits before they grew up and be the spirits we relive. It's quite cute seeing them learning stuff.
WAIT
pyre that’s more for #questions-and-help
like a moth would see the ark as lifeless but we would see it as restored
this is a lore thing
what version is real?
is the ark actually restored?
yea
I know how much you hate this tern pyre, but it's called "Gameplay Mechanics"
I don't think the murals are to do with the ark.
That’s just a game mechanic, the canon ark is restored after you finish the quest line
wait who are the kids
I'm pretty sure I know what they are about..? But that's beta spoilers so I'll keep hushed.
so canon ark has already been restored since the 6th week of enchantment?
Glyphs?
I can't wait to yell about my thoughts on the matter though.
guysguysguys
Do you think the 4 spirits in cave are the 4 people that is seen in Isle mural?
Unlike previous seasons, Enchantment the first one to have something this ambitious
why not, they're the prophets after all
bruh i totally knew this was gonna happen
so canon ark has already been restored since the 6th week of enchantment?
@teal orbit yes, sort of.
Oh my god
TGC said prophecy is the origin story right?
Yeah
or?
The true brophet is Fire Prophet dude
true
I am finally unmuted!
What happened beanie 
Now I can barrage the lore chat with my discovery., 
well if so, what if the "students" are just normal humans and these prophets are the ones to bring the "magical" element into their world?
The mods have to know something about this...but I'm too scared of them to ask
Look at the hairstyles, some look like they came from all realms
Most of them prairie
Yes, I was just thinking if those "students" are the spirits we also relive in other realms
No teens-
The hairstyles are from other realms, the spirits themselves are likely not. The body shapes are different for some
They probably died
Idk how to explain maybe I should wait till stuff comes to live first lol
Like, this is like their school or something.
Notice on the water statue, there is like something carved on it ( the three 3 squiggly lines? ) they look like the water symbol in avatar.
Avatar the last airbender to be precise-
That's the symbol for water i think.
Y e s
oooh i like your pfp yoda
i took a pic of the totem
yup this is avatar
omg your hair is yoda!
i havent seen the mandalorian season 2 yet so pls dm and giv spoilers
I came to ask if anyone else felt a little sad seeing the student-teacher relationship from new spirits bc of how the students seem like the realm emotes. But i see the train is already running 
yO BEANIE
I had to delete half of my apps to get all the prophecy pics-
Twi and la, push and pull
The
spirit is basically a mood. Ahaha. Tripping over and late for class.
The video might be lagging-
lore chat wouldve been excited after prophecy release wasnt it
skylluminati confirmed
Cloud stairs 
i need lore in my blood
Also kudos to the modeling/anim team bc the relive shots get better and better w each season — giving me feels for these fictional chars’ past liVES
Question is, where does the blue light come from?
what does the blue light in murals represent?
Yes, the spirits have so much personality, I take it slow when reliving them
Good question
hm
Also, I figured out that white candles are the source of meditating and connecting with dead spirits
But however, sometimes the white candles show murals..
well murals wouldve been painted by ancestors
Good question.
It’s possible that the white candles can be given or made specifically for making friends, connecting and etc.
maybe white candles are there to represent connection?
Oh like in the sanctuary.. it reveals murals when lit
woah you got so excited 
Look in the video, it might help you
So we get connected to others and the past through the white candles? :O
ye
omg
🕯
the new season is out?

I couldnt really fall asleep. So i decided to be proDucTiVe and get the new spirits done haha
Hnngg. I want more stuff about these student and teachers
That spirit is the one who moved the rock to sanctuary-
Also, look at the pendant
Quick thing, maybe the spirits were going to do the trials to become elders, and they taught other spirits as well, the cave of prophecy is the beginning for all elders, the trials are a way to make them (it doesn’t work i know, cause elders can’t be made they’re a generation.) but they never came back out of the trials... 
We see the same symbol as our guide
And possibly, the king.
Unless the king is guiding us.
Or prince-
That’s some deep lore there, very cool theory!
i can’t stop barraging the chat-
elders have always been elders but that's still a cool theory, maybe psuedo-elders?
It’s not really possible with the canon lore, but yeah I guess.
Good question tho, what are the trials for? What do they gain by passing them all?
I was gonna say “the capes?” Then suddenly thought.. did the past people fly with capes like us? Or is it more part of skykid magic
(and yeah the pendant is sus. It looks too much like the prince's mask
)
Has that been discussed already
Maybe passing trials = leadership / becoming adult?
Do you remember the theory about Leaves died because of Rain/Pollution/Darkness?
Well when you finish water it says "you have please the wisdom of patience"
i think the caves r like a school of some sort and the trials r a graduation test or summin
what if by passing the trials they were able to root themselves to sky kingdom instead of passing on?
I'll just leaves this here
probably a skill a leader/important role needs to have
If it's a school, why is it too hidden?
@hushed steeple its like a monestary in the mountains where u can train in peace
To who ever asked, it's probably hidden bc it's dangerous
?
considering how hidden it was i wouldn't be surprised if they were in hiding
also maybe passing the trial grants lots power ..
perhaps they didn't want many people to know about what they were doing
so like probably not a good idea to have it in the open?
True true
that's what i think, yes
But... Where did the 4 prophets come from amd how did they attain a high level
Welp
but why is it hidden, why only selected spirits who are allowed to proceed the trial
megan? 
Did anyone paid attention to the spirits that were with them?
yep
I think this season will be kind of an origin story for the world? I thought that the murals at the beginning show a creation story
Just putting this here, a message from skybot: The prophecy??! don't trust what the Elders say!!
But that’s just me
Ahh you came to that point
yooo...
or at least not on the side of the elders
hmm
Could be
Then what were they teaching the other spirits?
Maybe that's why the cave is hidden, far from eden
which murals do we have so far other than the elemental ones leading up to the cave?
or they were the ones who taught the elders and afterwards the speculation of their existence was swept under the rug?
i got an idea but it's... a bit long
Maybe doing their best to teach the students how to survive out there?
TELL
The question is who got it right if the elders and the prophets are at ends. I'm inclined to say the elders got it wrong because they seem to be the ones in power here but the world is in ruin... Hmmmm
close up?
Welp I’m in beta just to let know
what if the prophets foresaw the return of the king (in the form or skids) and they didn't want the elders to know? so they had to hide away so that they could train the spirits who could teach skids
(condensed version)
It shouldn't be return of King since the devs said this season shows an origin story of the kingdom
the mural showed 5 canonical spirits up top the cliff side and began their so called school
The children have skid hair
yeah my theory is pretty wonky but i don't have much evidence to work with either
Maybe there was no King and they created 4 trials, and the one who attains succes among all shall be the King?
Since it also showed the entrance it tells us that the cave was already carved out long before the king inhabited the land
I think they're the Isle elder and the 4 prophets @hexed turret
Sadly I didn't get to take a ss of something up there
wait how come only one of those figures has horns?
isle elder in a mural has a different form though
Isle elder would be portrayed more simply a bigger person
I thought those were more like pigtails
i think that's the quest giver
It's like the people in the mural we see in isle (outside the cave)
According to me, the thing on his head is very similar to the Isle Elder's mask
The isle elder isn’t shown like that in murals
Oh right. The isle elder looks different in other murals
Then there would be three
Maybe that's the big dude
that's isle elder in a mural
But simply put
The one with the horns, I mean
yeah i think the figure with horns is the guide
that’s the spirits we see today
As for the horns well
It’s a somewhat indication of who is the guide
Like how enchantment panned out
but yes
Also, all those spirits were actually short in height
Maybe this suggests that sky spirits grow like humans?
hmm
I mean the in-game Spirits which are shown while reliving prophets
they were alive once so i imagine they'd be able to grow
that's the cave we're in, no?
The cosmetics would look different because of age
Yeah, but we weren't sure if they actually grew but I gues we can be now?
There’s evidence of children like w proud stance’s memories
And how they were represented
That place looks like caves of propehcies
Yes, I believe that's the cave we are in Lily
In the mural
just noticed there are wave-like symbols beneath the cave
i think it confirms that the water level was higher in isle before
I personally view the prophets and trials as a test to “adulthood/leadership”
Psh, I'm WAY cooler than those prophets! 
Would make sense that the mural and water trial also seem to reference a changing water level
look at the difference between sea level to the cave now and sea level tot he cave then
Water trial definitely but idk bout the starting mural
Or even Isle, who knows
SO MANY IDEAS OWO❤️
before the cave was here the ledge looked pretty awkward
There are also the stranded boats in the sand (though those could have gotten there other ways too probably)
Oh i meant at isle
oh I thought you meant murals
yeah that's why i was thinking the water level was higher too
Nah haha srry i was thinking of the idea of isle having higher water levels
also wouldn't the mural indicate that the common people acknowledge it's existance?
Wait till you get to the next trial
Wait, but who is the questgiver 👀
He beats his drum and the mural shows
ahh would that be a treat
So, he may be someone important
Also the QG isn't shown in any spirit memories
True
Perhaps common people know of the trials but only select few are chosen to go w the prophets
He might be one of the few spirit who pass the trial?
Hnngg I'm excited to see more of the trials and murals it'll reveal
the qg is the big boss maybe
but it might be serving as an overseer on the trials
Maybe the QG is just a storyteller and not a prophet? Not sure about that
And trial overseer yeah
he can do magik
Could we decide on that
no lone wolf we already have magical guide
Oooo enchantment
Exactly
Why can't we have another 
It's weird how we don't see him interact with the spirits tho, unlike the sanc QG. Or is it not weird
Maybe later we’ll see interaction?
Might get confusing Wolf, if there are 2 with the same nickname
Put it short it’s their own story
I think sanctuary is the only season where the qg interacts with spirits
Even if this one is also shown to use magic
Oh right. So sanc is actually the weird one
Sanc is the anime beach episode
Not weird, it's the different one :)
It’s just that it portrayed a group of tourists on the island itself
/yall just got bacc from schoool give me updatess!!!!!
Look up
yo jen we got muralsss
/aaaaw snappp
Sanc is the OVA ahaha
Was grandma not the questgiver during Belonging?
Yes
Sanct is special Beach Episode
grandma was the qg but she didn't appear in any of the individual cutscenes
But we don’t have lore on belonging nor the previous seasons
Oo true
well
there was only one
All the masks have this spiral :eyes:
lore started coming in starting from lightseekers tbh
One in Isle?
@broken basin lolol you reminded me of Junji Ito
how
lightseekers introduced the concept of light orbs, which enchantment used
but yeah all the seasons so far until now haven't had so much lore either
Yea
spiRALS
let's play
design vs lore
Best game
Sky devs likes spirals ahahaha
Is it just design. Or is there lOre
no no compare that to the actual masks
Did light orbs in some daily quests (like today) come from light seekers?
I thought sky devs like diamonds 
I guess there may be lore or it's just design but still
it's an interesting motif 
They like triangles too
Imma see if that spiral is used in vault writings 👀
The old designs for the seasonal masks are more chunky than the current ones
Ima try to get a smidge of sleep. Gnight folks, it was fun reading through here 
/goodness i must wait until saturday so i can play first and not get spoil
But check gratitude
lmao jen by coming here you're already getting spoiled
Just realized anubis mask is the only one with diamond symbol on the forehead
The mask design is more fluent
Fluid?
Fluent?
flu?
Um more sleek?
/gatorade?
but anyway
And all masks have 2 sets of spirals
(Exceptional: the bat mask which joins both spirals to make it look like a nose)
Gatorade in Sky real (not fake)
The symbol for gratitude looks a bit alike to the current seasonal ones
with spirals on the masks
My friend mentioned that the masks give off Mayan statues vibes
Probably where the spiral motifs came from
Probably so
okay so is there another star?
what i find interesting is that the prophets + qg are all masked
how to separate your business life from personal life: hide your face at work. the prophecy gang probably took it literally
Maybe one day I can be a prophet too! 
lookin at the conste
tehre is a missing star
altho it might can be the qg
but dont ya think the conste looks weird and... unbalanced?
It’s only 4 main spirits + QG as far as I know
QG is usually the center one tho
if we assume It's similar with the other conste
i mean the ultimate gift is suppose to be in the middle
I think the devs aren't even refereeing to them as spirits, they're calling them just prophets
the prophets are watching
also have anyone made the list of spirits that appeared in the cave other than the prophets?
There's one already
managed to decipher them earlier
They all are from various Sky lands such as Prairie; Valley; etc
i mean... we didnt see them in eprson, we are relieving their memories just like how we did it to other spirits
No Valley nor Vault spirit tho, weird
Woah really
Oh I thought the climbing ones were Valley?
I understand if the vault spirit couldn't or not allowed to join but valley.. hmm
maybe since most of valley spirits are... uh, how do i say this
didntw ant to visit a cave-
I don't think there were realms at that time, so these spirits didn't come from Particular realms
tell
flos do you remember my leitmotifs and the separation of the elders into king side and against king side
I see where you're going with this
Carry on
what if wasteland was indeed a part of valley once and they send 3 people to the meeting
hence why there is 3 gw spirits
also res please proceed
But isn't all this their past, didn't all the stuff at prophecy caves happened when they were kids?
The prophecy foretells that @broken basin... ||Will actually have a very good day today||
wholesome brophet
congrats Wolf

when they are young, at least
Thanks , bcause it's not been a great day so far
also who is that spirit that bring up the whole boulder
They were from Prairie
I think
Did they have braids or am I wrong
I forgot to screenshot this stuff
The chat is getting more and more interesting.... 
No the spirit holding up the rock in the Air Prophet’s memories
i won't go in depth right now because i may be wrong + it is super long so i don't want to clog the chat
but basically from what i've heard from the elder themes so far by leitmotifs (not confirmed)
elders against king:
- isle
- prairie
- forest
- gw
elders with king:
- valley
elder both with and against king:
- vault
i think the reason why there are no valley/vault spirits is because they could snitch on the prophecy cave people to the valley and vault elders
I'm waiting for reika to spill some tea 
oh my!
Wait, King is evil?
So,maybe caves of Prophecy was hidden from the King?
And some tea against the King was boiling in there
I believe so, if they do plan for a rebellion
We don’t know much about the king, but they likely led their kingdom to destruction (Eden)
i love to insult the corrupt king whenever i get to
he has big statues in gw to match his big ego
I mean why would they choose a cave that is far from eden, and through a portal too
resh really be like that 
Res May I know how did you get to know which Elders are and aren't against the King.
If you have a written theory, I would appreciate if you could dm me that 
and its on isle... which is quite interesting
like out of other realms
it's not confirmed wolf, but i can dm you my full theory
Ace attorney rise up
@solar relic please dm me too 
Yep!
fire prophet were teaching pointing pilgrim and that one other guy i forgot his name
help im stuck writing prophecies
ye
Omg , the habbit of chatting in slowmode has grown on me
just pray the mods wont apply slowmode to this chat too-
I got the spirit who was carrying the boulder
i think we're good so far, the chat isn't nyoom-ing and not going off topic 😌
Strong gal
They seem to be teaching the younger spirits with training like yoga/meditation (handstand, deep breathing) but also strength and stamina (climbing)
And she was climbing the levitating stones while holding the boulder
She was strong
She basically captain marvel lmao
Are all spirits that strong? If she can do it, I guess the other can?
depends on their training I guess?
Well , both of the spirits were training for balancing since one spirit is doing tree pose which is a balancing yoga and the other one standson one leg amd balances the boulder
lookin at the valley mama spirit, we can conclude that spirits are generally strong since the valley mama didnt tumble when the kid jump on her and instead proceed piggybacking the child
Are they all trained in every single one or is it split tho ?
Prairie spirits are dock workers and they carried those pots around, so it would make sense for them to be strong like that
Ah yes that's true
Even prairie elder is pretty stronk
Oh wait!
The trial of water gives us wisdom of patience.
One kid was running fast without patience in the water prophet's cutscene and fell, then the prophet taught him to be more patient and calm
Prophets? WHERE?! 
Prairie elder is thick
idk, its kinda funny that the water prophet teach us how to breath calmly while we cant breath in water-
She teaches us to be patient , stay calm.
Well we can breath calmly irl to avoid raging at this trial
aha... just wait for more trials. i bet it will be very very challenging
That's what water trail is about, Patience, wait for the waves to lower and then continue, you can rush your way through it , you have to learn patience
Wait flos I think it’s to hold your breath longer so you can stay under water longer?
Also yeah patience as a larger idea
People are theorising that winged lights are fragments of king but what if king's a skykid
about the air prophet, what do you think their teaching is?
OH SHOOT!
butter 
The theory that we are king's reincarnation usually keeps floating around in here 
Yeah balance seems to make sense for air
I think I figured out what’s up with the quest giver!
No like
King is a separate skykid
There’s a sneak peak at the other trials in the trailer
He’s actually in the Spirits memories!
BUT HES A STUDENT
WHAT.
Ahhhhh
Heres the Quest Giver’s hairstyle
WHERE IS HE
WAITW AIT IS TAHT MEAN
QG GOT TO GROW INTO ADULT???
Doesn’t it look like one of the students shown in the spirit memories??
I THOUGHT THAT WAS WASTELAND GREEN CAPE GUY
So I was right, QG learned from the prophets!!!
One student has the EXACT HAIR

And is returning that knowlede to us
this is getting interesting

YOU CRACKED IT GOOD JOB
Yeah, but we also have a Spirit with that hair in wasteland
So, that spirit got taught ,and then all the events happened to him at wasteland, and the , he's now a qg and helping us to show what happened in the caves?
Sounds legit
Yess!
That's why he wears anubis mask.... God of afterlife right?
I could be wrong, but-
WAIT
Where did he come from where did he go, where did he come from Quest Giver Joe
/aaaaaagh????
WOOOO
THE TIME TRAVEL THEORY
Anubis was the god for funerals and afterlife
Yeah, but we also have a Spirit with that hair in wasteland
So, that spirit got taught ,and then all the events happened to him at wasteland, and the , he's now a qg and helping us to show what happened in the caves?
Sounds legit
HE SAW THE KINGDOM FALL AND COME BACK TO PROPHET AAAAA
Exactly
True, I said I could be wrong, but it’s an interesting thought-
/wait holup iss he confirmed Anubis tho????
But anubis also known as the guide for dead spirits, not only to guide them to afterlife but also to protect them while they are still on the world of living!
We somewhat cracked it bois
We actually don't know seal
Thanks to @thin dirge
Yeah great observation, butterfly, :)
Is this whole theory founded on the basis of every single spirit in the entirety of the sky kingdom having a perfectly unique hairstyle
Idk that's what I'm accepting until we have something new
butter thank you and great job!

Im gonna recheck the green cape spirit to see if it does have the same hair
Yes.
Cause I still could be wrong about this
They're either bald or unique hair style choose one
But sanctuary guide also had a hairstyle from one of the spirit tho,
Yes, the sanc guide had the wave spirit hair
Oh.
Oh no.
Yeah, green cape spirit does have the same hair-
/oooooh?
UMMMM BROS
they're brothers or best friends to have the same hair
That's my reasoning
Could be twins
So,
- The interesting answer- that the qg is the gw spirit and his soul is here to help us unravel what actually cause the kingdom to exist
- The boring answer- It's just a repeat in hairstyle like what we saw in sanctuary and in many other past seasonal spirits
/nuh uh
Maybe they are the same person
I'm going with 1 for now
/samekh hass different hair
I'm going with the relations theory
What is the official name for green cape spirit? Is it refugee?
/samekh hass different hair
@gilded fossil they said the ones with spike hair might be twins
uh well ignore the angle but
Not the valley twins
Courageous
they do looks same ngl
Hmm courageous soldier
/yea not couragous prophet
who needs prophets, skybot to the rescue!
What does this mean? I've thought about it for some time. It has something with water to do, but
It looks like they are waving or saying goodbye. Have y’all discussed this?
One of them has a ponytail/different hairstyle
It's been a lot of times since the spirits have the same base and they just change the Cosmetics, so it can be that too
Maybe the spirit is guiding us now because he choose the wrong side before?
/yall one of the 5 spirit in 1st pic hass horns??.
yo i just backread the chat what an orbit brain moment 
/yall one of the 5 spirit in 1st pic hass horns??.
@gilded fossil
I think that's the Isle elder with 4 prophets, while I think some also think that it's the qg with 4 prophets
Since the horns look a t lot like his mask on the forehead
We saw a lot of repeat hairstyles tho. Sanctuary... Belonging...
Exactly
One of them is more alone though, like the space between them was for another spirit
Well, not a lot, but that’s what I could think of
But I love the new theory and I'll be with it ❤️
Welp, I guess I’m gonna stick with my previous headcanon about the guy then-
I’m more interested about the stairs in the clouds, the arch doorway in the mural doesn’t seem to match anywhere in the cave itself unless I’m just not perceptive at all
okay so, one thing is, these murals seems to be incompleted? like, somehow they looks so vague
we might gonna get more murals in the next trials...
I think that's the depiction of caves of Prophecy
Here is the full mural if someone wants to peek at it.
i cant see yet lol, wifi problem
Maybe the art style changed as time went on, and since the caves are older they have an older art style
Hm just seems odd that the mural would specifically use an arch doorway when there isn’t one in the caves
that stair way reminds me of the last area in eden
Maybe the Isle elder in prophecy mural is the one who isn't ascended to an elder yet.
And the one is Isle is of when he became an elder

or maybe elder were not exist back then. Lonewolf mentioned earlier that it is the origin story of sky afterall
the one where you rush past the last krill in eden to get into the tunnel
anyway, why do you guys think there are trials? and why there are prophets that represent each trials' elements? like, dont you guys think its quite weird?
Yeah, maybe there was nothing except deserts of Isle?
sync.... shouldnt it be resonating?
we only got water for now, but i can guessing next trial will be connected with another element
jen, please elaborate 
season of Avatar
brrrr
/they made hard challenge so people who want to go to orbit are better prepared to go into the eye of eden
Just some extra info here : During the mural cutscene in the caves the Horn/hair person showed up alone and the others came in a group
ANCESTORS DIDNT GO TO EDEN.....
why yes but idk, in eden all we do is run and hide, not jumping around like in trial-
that too
Also there's a tune, which almost plays everywhere at every place
so good
/ it came on the spot i havent played, made from the predictions i saw from the trailer sorrry
It's in one of the music sheets too
where
leitmotif?

where?????!!!!!
NEW LEITMOTIF
/Lone wolf that's a leit- yea res said it
Did you notice the song when we get blessed or whatever by the prophet in the trial?
oh after we finished the trial?
I mean when we can walk on water

ngl the song just played out of nowhere and scred the living outta me
And it doesn't harm us anymore
What if the horned/crowned person became the king? Idk tho might be a stretch
why do we glow
wait which horned lad yall talkin about-
Scroll up
/ oop that a spoiler for me
aww-
why do we glow after the trial
@teal orbit It’s a bug.
good bye mate, see ya in afterlife
Do you guys think the forgotten ark is related to the trials?
its a BUG??????
/nooooo
where did wolf go
it's a leitmotif waaaa
Do you guys think the forgotten ark is related to the trials?
likely? yes
Ngl when we became a star I thought we could slide on water just like in the trail.
game mechs and bugs are my worst nightmare

